BEST PEDALS EVER!!! SimGrade VX Pro
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- Опубликовано: 15 июн 2023
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Only legends wear christmas socks in june
Yeah I did it just for the foot cam. Hahahaha. 🤣🤣🤣
Great review 😊Mines are on the way,should receive them next Friday,can’t wait 😀
You won’t be disappointed. I am much more consistent because I have the extra strength. Once dialed in, you’ll be much more consistent.
Thank you, an informative review.
About foot cams - personally I do not want them in streams of races but for a review of pedals I think it fine and maybe needed.
Yeah, foot cams are not my fav. Thanks for the feedback to b/c I can totally agree.
I got mine yesterday and im impressed how good the brake is. Throttle is little bit short compared to my old TLC-M, but im sure i get used to it. I will need to tweak and test differrent settings to find how i like it best. Im pretty good on computers, but i find calibration software to be pretty hard to use for the first time. I preordered all 3 pedals and baseplate and it took over 3months get my package which was a bit too long wait to be honest. Uprage from TLCM was huge , just the brake makes so big difference. Its so smooth and easy to release smoothly so you can trailbrake easily. If you are looking for new pedals to replace TLCM i can recommend VX-PROS.
The brake is absolutely amazing I agree. The throttle took me some time to get dialed in but once I did, I love also. I am so much more consistent it is scary. I can brake better with far less lockups and coming from the Sprints I didn't expect it to be that much better but they truly have been. I don't need the clutch myself. Maybe in the future, but honestly, the pedals are a steal at the price. I have no idea how they are making money at all. I pre-ordered so it took a while and they made some updates, and I personally hate waiting but it was well worth it. Hope to see you on track :)
Thank you so much for mentioning the ability to tilt them, I somehow missed that in the manual. I was struggling to get them to be more comfortable with my setup and they come with the most vertical orientation as default (at least mine did).
Yeah. I had to play around to see how they adjust. It’s not the most adjustable I’ve used but their are some options. The first video I made was horrible because I didn’t mention any of it. So I did again knowing someone may need to see it. So thanks for validating my thoughts. Lol.
They are good though.
Great review thinking of letting go of my Moza CRP pedals and getting these
You sent regret it. I'll be uploading my racing videos. Dude I'm so much more consistent. The racers around me aren't but man I'm in love with them. I may divorce the wife and marry my pedals.
Cool vid so far, really nice looking pedals. I have noticed I easily lock up my tires with my Fanatec v2 elite pedals. Maybe I need to max out the elastomers. I think I'm sitting in the middle stiffness with the stack I have been using.
Small tweaks constantly, my rig is a giant lego set. Love this hobby!
Dude. The V2 pedals are good too. Yeah maybe you need harder. They go up to 90kgs so you should be set with them. Do you tilt the pedals up to get them at 90 degrees?
I don’t lock up with these pedals. So we will see how it works with other sims for sure.
Thank you so much for this video! it's been very useful setting them up. Much appreciated!
Most welcome. How do you like them?
@@grayzedynamics Bit late! Installation and config were pretty straightforward thanks to your video. Have them attached to my P1X pedalplate. Sturdy, no flex. The pedals immediately felt really good. The brake feels excellent even after just 40 laps in a GT3. These Simgrade VX Pro's are amazing. I found plenty of adjustment options with the spring stiffness, preload etc. and in the software as well. They seem really well designed, simple but versatile, sturdy, well built and just very complete with the 3 loadcells.
I paid the pre-order price for the 3 pedal set. It's absolutely unbeatable for the money and Simgrade deserves recognition for putting this set on the market.
I'm coming from Thrustmaster T-LCM's. They're a good loadcell starter set but the poorly designed TM Adapters never allowed me to really push them otherwise it would probably break, I feel. It's really incomparable. Words wouldn't do it justice.
Glad I could help. They are an absolute steal. I still can't believe that pre-order price. I am sure like most you saw the Dan Suzuki video and if so, they have to pay thay guy some cash. Lol.
I have become much more consistent and the feel is amazing. I hope they make replacement pedal plate for these as well. That would my dream. Or at minimum I'd love to get the dimensions to have some created.
The throttle has been good but I can't find that sweet spot. They do now make a brake adjustment now but I love how they are now.
@@grayzedynamics Dan Suzuki indeed! They've had thousands of orders based on that video and seemed pretty overwhelmed but they didn't rush and delivered a solid pedalset. I'll be keeping an eye on their website for more goodies as well. That new brake kit allows for even more options but I'm pretty happy as it is.
I'm also testing the adjustments to the throttle. Plenty of throw and thus some room to play with. Have to set them up for heel and toe as I drive a lot of classics. I was surprised to be on the pace in such a short time. Feels like I'm braking more on "pressure" instead of "position" as I did with the T-LCM's. Easier to bleed of the brakes and trail brake. It could make me more consistent as well but we'll see a bit further down the line.
Perhaps ask Simgrade if they're planning different pedal plates? Should be a few aftermarket options regardless.
I'll be taking a look at your VRS DFP video as well. That's the next planned upgrade and the VRS is top of the list (until I talk myself into a $imucube DD..)
Yeah Dan made them a stack of dough and new fans of great pedals. I still can't believe how great they are. So freaking awesome.
Yeah the pedal plates would be cool. Since I race with socks I want something like the HRS sprint pedals plates. Would be awesome.
As far as the VRS, what are using now? Coming from my R9 and trying a couple others I am totally happy with my decision. However, if the Simucube PRO was cheaper that is my ultimate goal. But who knows what will come out in the next 5 years. Can't honestly see upgrading again anytime soon.
Nice score! I saw Dan's vid on these as well. I have a bit of the opposite problem, I am using the Asetek Invicta's, but after a long session my braking leg is sore (I'm 50 years old and semi retired, so this is probrably normal). I love the pedals, but it might be better for me to have a slightly softer feel. I guess we can hope that the active pedal technology gets cheaper in the coming years. Also, best socks ever. I noticed you also have the Verstappen foot wiggle when going on throttle!
Thanks brotha. That video made me take a chance. With these I can make them much softer as I don’t want a complete stiff pedal. I love the travel of these so I’m excited how much better I can get.
Yeah I’m going to order the bracket for the side. I think I should have picked it up but for now I’ll just think of you when I do it. Ha ha ha
As for the active pedal. I’m hoping it gets replicated by Heusinkveld personally. I think they could pull it off awesomely.
@@grayzedynamics If you watch any of the Verstappen virtual lap vids, Max always does that same foot wiggle...100% of the time. Ya hopefully HVD can bring a set of activve pedals to market with a more realistic price for those of us in the real world :P.
Yes. That would likely be the end goal but until then. I think I’ll be good for quite some time. These pedals are better than I expected. Did a few races and man I was so much more consistent. No lock ups or anything. I’ve been needing these for a while.
You could just add a deadzone at the top to make maximum brake input require less force. It's not even realistic to run a 100kgf+ peak pedal in every car; you need to lower it for roadcars and such. I use 50kgf.
Yeah I think your right but I've gotten used to them. Especially in iRacing. I don't play ACC much but when I play, I have to change it because you brake significantly harder and use ABS. Kills my calves. Lol
They look nice. The software looks easy to use too. Nice upgrade
It's pretty easy. Not the easiest but not hard at all.
Just remember to write config to device. Quite easy, the new version is little better than what Dan reviewed.
Yeah I spoke with Timo as well. Works great. These pedals are a steal and I still don’t see how they are only $399 for the pair. Doesn’t make sense. They are AMAZING!
I have inverted v3 with the works wide brake and sticky with the damper and im switching to this thing subbed
You will not regret getting these pedals, let me know how you like it.
Picked up a set of these as well and they do really feel nice under foot. I did the same thing and didn't read the manual completely.
Hahaha. We’re idiots at times. lol. They feel great. Glad I got them too. I honestly AMD surprised they feel better than my Sprints.
Thank you for the review .. question ... I like my throttle on the soft side since I am used to use a simple spring and potentiometer .. will I be able to have a lite soft setting?
Yes. I have mine rather soft personally. It can be hard but I don't use it stiff at all. It was a little too soft for me but the range to tighten is great.
Hi, thanks for the review.. waiting on mine :) please check your throttle it seems that its not always on 100% on full throttle. Maybe config a little deadzone so that 95% is reconized ass 100. Thats what I did on my sprints and also on the ultimates. regards
Thanks. Yeah I have been messing with them a ton. I have calibrated them and adjusted the stiffness. I actually think I have figured it out. Been trying a bunch of settings as I don’t want much force for the throttle. Think I have found my happy place. Thanks for the input too.
Awesome review. How easy is it to sell your old sim gear? Where do you ell it? Or do you keep it?
Thanks for the feedback. I usually sell on Facebook Marketplace b/c it is quite easy. Ebay just charges too much and usually people pay via Paypal outside of FB so it is easy and I ship immediately. I wish I could keep everything but since every $ counts I must sell.
Hey Grayze, great review. Just checking in 9 months later, still enjoying the pedals? I'm currently in the market and considering these + the HS Sprints. Thanks!
Hey FluffMuffTater, I love these pedals and I had the HS Sprints. I think the sprints are ok, but these are better. The Sprints are overpriced in todays market and kind of live off of reputation. The feel of these are better, better pedal plates and adjustments are great and it uses a spring so easier to get harder springs although you wont need it. These are an A+
@@grayzedynamics Wow, thanks for the reply! Dave Cam said the same thing. Going to pull the trigger on these soon, very excited. Been using my V3s for 6-7 years and have got my moneys worth!
@@FluffMuffTater nice. Glad Dave Cam agrees. I got them after seeing Dan Suzuki. They are freaking great.
...and I'm back in the rabbit hole...
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 welcome with the rest of us. You aren't lonely. Hahaha
They're wonderful, upgraded from TLCMs and it's amazing except one thing. Under my foot hurts with socks. I wish they had a silicone cover or something like that.
Yeah I just socks pedals can be sore. I wish there was something as well. I am actually working on getting custom pedal plates myself. Is sick drivers need something that won’t kill our feet. These are better than the sprints tho on socks the holes down the center were uncomfortable. I would love if HKS made their plates for these.
Hey man, would you mind explaining how to install the VX-PRO calibration tool or making a small video? I'm having trouble getting it to work. I really appreciate it!
Yup. I can do something later today. It’ll be up late tonight. Let me know if you can get it in the meantime. I’m EST so it’ll be later tonight.
@@grayzedynamics thank you so much. I can build a PC but can't install the software. Hoping my ADHD brain is overlooking a simple process. When I download the exe.file and open it as admin, I am told I am missing several files. I appreciate your help and can't wait to use the pedals!
No worries Derek. I made the same mistake. Video will be up at 11. It is rendering at the moment. :)
@@grayzedynamics Here is the fix for anyone that might have the same issue. It is a particular Windows 11 security feature that is automatically enabled unless upgrading from Windows 10.
Hit windows key > Settings app > Privacy & Security > Windows Security > Device Security > Core isolation details > make sure memory integrity is off > make sure Microsoft Vulnerable Driver Blocklist is off.
Cheers
WOOHOO! Glad you got it and thanks for sharing. It will be helpful for those that get the pedals. Let me know how you like them.
I have a set of CRPS and is tempted to move to these I just don’t know if the difference is big enough.
I have not used the CRP's but I can say these are great. The brake feel is amazing and coming from my HE Sprints they feel like an upgrade. It's so subjective tho. Are you not liking your current pedals?
I came from TLCMs and was expecting to be blown away and I wasn't, I'm trying my uder best to get quicker and more consistent and I believe pedals are the most important part to that.
It is all so objective, but for me, the 90kg and pedals have made me more consistent. The brake will be the biggest part to making you more consistent. Average wheelbase and wheel, steady cockpit is a must, and a solid brake you can be consistent with is key. Without trying them, you are shooting in the dark, but I can say that these are the pedals I will keep for quite some time. Until the active pedals are significantly cheaper.
These socks are the part of the video. They are giga :D
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How do they compare to VRS?
Really good. Although I think you’d be fine with either. The throttle I hear is better.
I'm not sure what you mean by 'adjust force in the software'. Can you explain further?
For example when using the HE Sprint pedals you can change the brake force or max force in KG. So since they maxed out at 65, you can adjust the force in the software. Similar to what can be done on fanatec pedals in software or on wheel.
If you feel they max out too soon, adjust the calibration. Set the max value to a higher number. If that's too low, set the pedals themselves a notch or two stiffer and recalibrate. (That's if I understand your problem correctly, still having a hard time to visualize how real life force is adjustable with software)
Yes I have made adjustments to the pedals and to be honest I got them in a good place. They feel great, however, being able to change brake force in software allows you to have more travel without the need to get out and adjust pre-load and make adjustments to travel. Check out Wills review because he goes over it. I did a review but was so green didn't cover this part. It is at the 1:09 mark. This feature is also controllable on Fanatec pedals and a few others I have used.
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I believe you had V3's, couldn't you adjust brake force on the Fanatec pedals, or with Fanatec gear if you had?
@@grayzedynamics You can change the brake force in the software by changing the maximum. It just doesn't tell you specifically what the raw value means. The manual says don't exceed 90kg of brake force. It also says don't exceed 17000 raw value. I guess you could extrapolate from that 90kg of brake force is a raw value of 17000. It would be nice to have that number but I guess part of the issue is that it would depend on the mechanical advantage of the brake system which would depend on how you set up the brake physically and even where you place your foot. The force on the load cell won't be the same as the force on the pedal plate and won't be comparable to the force on the load cell for the HE pedals since the mechanical advantage will be different.
Are those a pair of Santa socks?
Well of course. No other way to do it. Lol🤣🤣🤣
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They cost 500 Euros here, just 100 Euros less than the VRS pedals, but the VRS are never available...
I'd say get the VX PRO pedals. I followed Dan Suzuki's advice and he raved about them. Even said he'd get the VX pedals over the VRS. I havent used the VRS but these pedals are awesome. Sold my Heusinkveld Sprints and these are much better.
@@grayzedynamics they will arrive tomorrow.
Btw. I followed your advice and sent my Cube Controls fcore wheel back. Found a Moza fsr+ universal hub new for 450 Euro. Even if it's not perfect for GT3 racing, it's a good deal. Dan Suzuki loved the fcore however. :D
@@GabrielHaller I think you'll like the FSR. It's a great value for the same features and a digital dash. You can't use simhub for the dash but you get more value than the F-Core. Yeah as we know wheels are so subjective. Just like the GSI wheels. I like their bulky grips but others do not. I think there are so many things to consider. If Cube out better grips on the F-Pro I would have kept it forever. That wheel has so many cool elements, just the grips are horrible and not for me. I think you'll like the FSR. Good wheel and tons of features. Let me know what you think.
I push my sprints to 22kg lol
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@grayzedynamics tbf i have them mounted to a playseat and the plate flexes A LOT
I used to have a wheel stand and with the csl elite lc pedals I had to tune it down
I need better pedals
Well I can tell you these are worth every penny. I LOVE these pedals.
Sprints are OVERATED I went from Simjack pro to sprints and I couldn't have been more disappointed, these pedals look fantastic 👌
Thanks for the feedback. After getting the Simgrade VX-Pros I will say I am very happy with them over my Sprints. Overrated may be much b/c so many people like them, but for me, I would lean towards overhyped. They are nice pedals and do great, but for what they cost and what I paid for these, blown away by VX-Pros. It is a steal.