They think too highly of themselves and get overconfident after beating SKT that they thought they won finals and started celebrating lol. Defeat sure feels good for them
Strange that people keep saying FPX is inconsistent when they topped their spring season with an 87% series winrate and then repeated that in summer with a 93% series winrate. Given the larger sample size of teams in the LPL (16 LPL teams compared to 10 in LEC) that's even more impressive. If that performance doesn't prove consistency I don't really know what will.
It is not just that either. Bear in mind that the best matches that are not 'boring' are those that swing back and forth. So inconsistency may well be due to stiff competition. If G2 is consistent, one can argue they are just facing weak LEC teams. People say SKT was inconsistent, but they still came back and won both LCK titles.
Western fans. They dont care about us in the east. (Except maybe koreans?) But all in all? They deserve to be defeated. Call me bad or what. Idc anyways. 😂
@@nunu7740 "western fans" but what are u ? Lpl fans ? Na fans ? Lck fans ? Remember that lwx himself admitted g2 underperformed, if u can't accept it then u are just delu, fpx thought G2 would have been better, but because g2 prefer do content they lost, and fpx deserve the win, but they were better only at that time, trust me with exp, now bring current g2 vs current fpx and fpx lose the same way g2 lost to them . btw i'm not a g2 fan.
@@tsukuyomiinfini9962 He said that it was not because FPX performed that well, and it was G2 losing bad, so FPX weren't even playing their best either. BTW, how are you gonna compare the two? FPX is a shell of a shell of its former self bruh, losing practically their entire roster from the 2019 run, and even then, I would say it's a 3-2 for G2 since EU has regressed from its 2019 self, with its its team getting swept out of the playoffs by the fourth best team in the tourney lmao, AND they couldn't even win the LEC summer split. ALSO, just because FPX thought G2 were going to be better than whatever the fck they showed on stage, doesn't mean that they thought G2 were better than them or even close to them lmao. Did you not see those games? If a sane person watched a finalist getting ran out of stadium like THAT, then they would probably not think it was not the best performance either lol. Either way, G2 would have gotten at best 3-1'ed by FPX due to Tian being better than Jankos being better in every way shape or form, Perkz being a Kaisa and Xayah two trick (his Yasuo was horrid, so ez target ban), Caps getting clapped by the opposing midlaner for the second year in a row, with Wunder being the only G2 player that has an argument to be the better player at the position in the series. Let's not forget that G2 were getting obliterated by FPX in scrims as well (and it showed on stage lol), if that means anything to you.
I wouldn’t mind a 3-0 shut out grand final if EVERY game was an edge-of-your-seat nail biting close game, but they weren’t so yeah it did suck and was not that exciting at all.
First match was close and exciting. I kept remembering that G2 were behind in all the games against SKT but they didn't go on tilt and kept coming back to win, and they kept fighting back against FPX during that first game. But after they lost, well, they went on tilt and the next two were true stomps.
So true, EU fans baited G2 into thinking they were soooo great. Goes to finals gets swept like a bronze team playing with challengers. They got schooled that a different way to play the midlane is not a bad way to play it. DoinB was roaming and was still ahead of caps in CS omegalul best team in the world.
@@SpeedBattleFury lwx said they underperformed ( im not a g2 fan ) so accept it, maybe if g2 wasn't doing content 1-2 days earlier, it would have been 3-1 for fpx / 3-2 or even 2-3 / anyway fpx won and they deserve it .
Bomb ass games yo, lit as fuck, when I saw ig at that level I instantly realized that was the real finals, bot teams were back in form (fpx didn't have the greatest start) and dude, can say 100% if IG goes through there they 3-0 g2 as well, wunder and jankos were the 2 biggest problems and theshy is waay better than GimGoon and ning is a world class jungler that was getting back in form, they would exploit g2's top/jungle just like fpx and rookie would just win lane against caps no argument about that
It’s simple: Just have a 3rd place match to start the show between the 3rd/4th place teams. SKT vs IG would have been a hell of a way to open the show. If you want to make sure the show doesn’t go in too long, make the 3rd place a Bo3, but Bo5s would obviously be better. EDIT: If people don’t think the teams would care about 3rd, add some incentive behind winning. For example, more prize money for 3rd, compared to 4th.
Bad Request I disagree, if you’ve seen sporting 3rd place matches like the football World Cup it’s just a depressing match which neither team really cares about because they don’t give a shit about 3rd place
People thinking FPX were a coinflip before the came into worlds were so dumb though Like, they had the if not one of the most winning-est seasons in LPL history, only losing to IG
I agree. They are like a stable G2. I still think G2 at their peak is stronger, but talking about a coin flip team, then you have G2 in a nutshell. They are tiltproof, but they sure can run it down either way
Just because your G2 didn't live up to its hype doesn't mean that the Worlds was boring. It's G2's fault under performing in the biggest stage. FPX did their part showing what they are capable of.
Eh I can kinda understand this game gets boring fast like very fast I’ve never seen a game that has so many champions that can make a game pointless and boring. I know there’s normally one or two but this game stacks them.
@@definitelycultured7521 nah nah, even lwx admitted that g2 underperformed, they never acted like they're superior, so if themselves admit that they underperformed it means they thought they'd have been better, i'm not a g2 fan, but u seem to be a g2 hater or lpl fan
@@tsukuyomiinfini9962 bro you literally just proved my point lmao, FPX running over G2 easily cause G2 underperformed hard and who the fk reply to a comment that's like 2 years ago what
1:25 when you say "a lot of the world thought that FPX were just a meme team going into worlds" is just plain wrong and just trying to push a narrative that just isn't true. FPX was one of the favorites by many if not MOST analysts to win the tournament. It is true that MANY of those same analysts started to question their decision, and the same did prolly their fans, after group stage, cus they looked honestly SHIT in group stage. But saying most people thought they were a meme team going into worlds is just straight up bs.
yeah its such a weird narrative: "Nah the first seed lpl team that had a 90% winrate in the lpl (the most stacked region imo) is definitely just a meme team and not a serious contender to win the whole thing. its literally just a matter of brand value and nobody watching lpl, people know about ig now because they won last year and they know rng because its been near the top lpl since forever. No western viewers give a shit about lpl so no one actually knew just how dominant this team was, and instead just have a big EUphoria circlejerk
Yes please. I dont even know why this video exist. If g2 won, this would surely be a celebratory video. Although they have a point about worrying on the future of the league, but dont attack the other team, they worked hard for it. Improve and celebrate whoever wins (they pointed improving in the video).
@@Xalexalexale ESPECIALLY when they were going up against G2, who ran shit like Garen, Soraka and Khazix top in their region... and yet FPX is the "meme team" in that final. OK, dude
@@kingco7667 yeah dude if G2 won this video would be titled, "How G2 changed league history forever" and instead we basically have a guy saying "ugh this tournament was so boring" like lmfao get over yourself I got nothing against G2, I think they are a great org and I love the personalities on the team, but people latched on to them like the second coming of jesus and they cant handle their loss.
They definitely were not a meme team going INTO worlds, but after group stage (which was by far the easiest group) and FPX underperforming, many fans and analysts became very skeptical. I agree that the vid could have worded it better.
G2 underestimated FPX saw that after they beat SKT, all of Caps' talking made me lose hope. They went into it thinking they had already won which is a recipe for disaster. G2 is a great team and I'm not flaming them but they need to be more respectful to their opponent.
pls just watch a after game interview of g2. They are respectful, yeah the sometimes trashtalk a little but it'S like 5 % . but you only get to see the 5% in highlight videos and stuff.
Dude, no, they just got outclassed. FPX rolled through LPL, IG, and FNC. Groups was the only time they looked shaky. Don't write it off as G2 being disrespectful because they're professionals and know damn wall what they were going into.
G2 was built to counter traditional meta teams. When they get into teams that make their own meta they have trouble (msi: 0-2 vs PVB, 0-2 vs IG) (worlds: 0-3 vs FPX, 1-2 vs Griffin) only exception was the 3-1 vs DWG
That was not a boring series. It’s only “boring” because the team you wanted to win lost. That was watching a master class performance of League at a level that few teams have ever attained. FPX truly seemed to give their very best performance in that series and do it when it mattered. Each game they set up risky plays and employed risky strategies, they executed them near perfectly. They danced around one of the best teams in the tournament and their jungler (who was a no name before this year to most westerners) showed one of the most convincing Lee Sin performances I have seen. If you think it was boring than you were only focused on the narrative, it’s hype for long time players watching how a good team unfolds it’s strategies and counters their opposition.
Both were unique teams G2 were trolls and FPX was a meme team I am actually happy a meme team won the worlds but sad my own meme team (G2) didnt GG FPX, you fly fucking high and keep making me fear that nautilus mid
Yeah fpx play style is so OP plus very good individual performance ....G2 split push tactic is work very well to counter skt but not enough to play again a team that dont hesitate to make decisive decision and always force g2 to fight as a group and cant split push...fpx rarely go to defend while g2 split push they always force g2 to fight and fight..
Millies overuse and misuse memes just as they do terms like int, tilt and thicc. G2 was the meme team LOL. Talk the talk but can't walk the walk. Always pretending to laugh.
1 Million Subscribers Without Videos Cause they were getting stomped so badly they knew they had no chances of coming back from that game and 2-0, so mind aswell laugh it off.
LoL, if G2 stomp FPX 3-0 this video will be titled “The story of best team in League of Legend history” If it doesn’t fit your narrative of course it sucks. LMAO
But hey how much i love to see fpx destroy g2 in the finals we really could see that league now is really boring when a team(g2) like this with their flipcoin teamfights got to the finals it was not funny. We really could have some losers bracket like dota2 and tekken losers bracket helps to rid out those team that are not that good and will make the finals boring.
and people were saying G2 is the team OG of League before the finals start LMFAO. lol eu fanboys pls understand that your region will never produce a GOAT team like OG.
@@josefnicanor1430 get a mid lane champ with good waveclear and lane pressure then push wave constantly to roam and gank with jg. Or just have a proactive jungler and laners that can set up properly for ganks. That should guarantee an early lead unless the opponent can return the pressure elsewhere or counter the ganks.
@@G_Kchrst you really do. Every caster said, T1 members are better and played better. They lost in draft and from mistakes. G2 played like dogshit in those games. So did T1 but it seems G2 fans seem to overlook that. You dont play shit 6 games in a row without it being a mistake :)
Not really, they were better than SKT but SKT were trash, the fact that they barely made it past SKT despite having superior drafts just goes to show they weren't strong enough.
LWX was spoon fed by an MVP jungler and an outstanding support. LWX didn't die because Crisp came in clutch so many times for him. He also set up so many easy kills for LWX. Crisp is low key the MVP.
@@SashaSlvt I don't think G2 played bad, FPX did a lot of homework than any Koreans teams. They banning Xayah away from Perkz, they anticipate G2 might play Pyke and they bully Wunder many times because he is the easiest member of G2 rather than go botlane like what usually Korean teams roam instead of top.
this FPX remembers me a lot of the wings in TI6, they play as a team and know exactly how to play to maximize the other players, they can play anything anywhere and will stomp you anyway
gonna say it right now, g2 never dominated though, msi they left groups as third, and does anybody really think theyd have beaten IG? Ig disrespecting TL is the only reason g2 won that tournament, they then spent summer literally trolling stage games, and refusing to scrim because they didnt want to share strats and "didnt need it", they then almost lost a bo5 to fnatic multiple times at the end of that season, went into worlds, got out of groups in second position, beat damwon fair and square, a third place lck team, with a pretty rough bot lane pair, which let perkz rightfully carry, against skt they had a gold lead of 1.5% or more for less than 7% of the series, yet everybody still talked about how they "destroyed skt".... as they won three games off of the back of a single clutch teamfight each, and sure, fair enough you deserve that win for doing that, but then fpx was an even better early game team than the fnatic that almost beat g2 twice, and miles ahead of the korean giants in skt in early game plays that were already pushing g2 to 7k gold deficits within 30 minutes. if g2 had actually practiced their early game after the fnatic series using it as a fucking wake up call, theyd have at least been able to stay competitive, but instead they spent the tournament thinking theyd be unstoppable mid game anyways so why bother, and it bit them in the ass hard.
Exactly this. It was just casters/reddit bias and stupid narratives, g2 best team in the world my ass, got hard exposed by IG at msi and now by FPX at worlds.
@@adtoxic3344 i brought up the MSI group stage to show that if they got two hard teams in a worlds group they wouldnt have gotten out of it. normally the hard to prepare for teams shine in bo1 over the macro orientated teams like SKT, but skt did better that group stage.
I couldn't agree more. Also, they lost all 3 drafts hard, which is more coach's fault than players but still worth mentioning as it led to their defeat in theese games. Regards.
bafana Mhlamvu yeahh i was more surprised how lck lose to g2 when they were not lookin good since group stage xd u shud watch the opening ceremony of the finals it is more entertaining than the finals itself.
@@fvjxznvueaepd8u yeah this Worlds wasn't very entertaining to say the least... I really wanted Griffin and Damwon to go further, especially Griffin...
This kind of reminds me of RNG's story RNG's story: - Uzi won All Stars 2017 1vs1 - RNG won LPL spring split 2018 - RNG won MSI 2018 - LPL won Rift Rivals 2018 - RNG won LPL summer split 2018 and then lose 2-3 to G2 at Semifinals G2's story: - Caps won All Stars 2018 1vs1 - G2 won LEC spring split 2019 - G2 won MSI 2019 - LEC won Rift Rivals 2019 - G2 won LEC summer split 2019 and then lose 0-3 to FPX at Finals Scripted or just Karma doing her bitchy work🤔
Biggest upset imo. I was rooting for RNG since 2016, hurts me every year. There's some curse on hyping teams like they did on RNG last year and G2 this year.
@@MrWarhead16 Like TL in the msi like everybody thought they were going to win cause they beat the worlds champion so they were picked by the analyst to win it but of course no just like this worlds where every analyst except one picked g2 as winners but of course nope so hyping and rooting for teams is what makes them lose and it's a curse Or Scripted and just done for fand and money from fans
Honestly, would you have rathered players said nothing to each other throughout the season, say 'we will do our best this year!' and leave it at that? That's not how rivalrys or storylines are made. When everyone is too respectful nothing interesting happens
G2 is a team that has fun and trashtalk for memes, they are even memeing themselves on their fanpage, but i think you prefer teams that are always kind and are boring
Anon Falco I think you misunderstand what he was saying. Trash talk definitely makes things interesting for two sides: if they win, fans of the team love them even more. But if they lose, everyone that they have been trash talking gets to throw it right back in their face and they can’t say a thing about. I don’t think he was saying trash talking is a bad thing. I think he’s saying that he’s satisfied that G2 has to eat ALL of the trash talk that they’ve been dishing out all year. And I agree with him! It’s so good to see the cocky giants fall so hard :)
Exactly, fpx showed superior teamfighting and great macro. They were playing good league of legends, I feel like most people who said this years finals was boring didn't remember the finals for the past few years
LoaThunder lmao imagine saying that G2 didn't do anything. G2 played well but they didn't have the answers to fpx. DoinBs roaming style and nautilus pick cornered wunder and pushed caps in at the same time. FPX had a superior bot lane and crush the matchup against perkz and mikyx. G2 did play the game, they probably put up a better fight than skt would have this year they were just exposed.
LoaThunder well your actually correct,they did use their bad early game in the skt series against fox which already has a strong early game,and they tried they coinflippy teamfighting style against the best teamfighting team in the world
This is the problem pro League of Legends has been facing since the first season. The game doesn't allow comebacks to happen without very large misplays. At the pro level, the team that looks ahead at the 15 minute mark is almost always the team that wins.
Except watching OG outdraft, outplay, outsmart and meme hard was a thing of fucking beauty. I like both leauge and dota but have to be honest, the international mops the floor with worlds in many ways (except obviously the opening with those cool animations and holograms or whatever, they nailed those).
@@r2in360 Might have something to do with dota prize pool dwarfing league's. Because riot pays coaches and teams throughout the season and valve doesn't, having such a huge prize raises the stakes quite a bit.
@@johnmalvent2189 It's the format for me, teams play a lot more games against each other and get a feel for how their opponents play, when theres so many games in the group stages and then also theres a losers bracket the players don't just have to rely on vods to figure out their opponents they can also get a shot against each other multiple times.
I play a lot of dota and league but Dota 2 TI was way enjoyable and thrilling to watch than Worlds. For gods sake league please give us amazing matches
@@r2in360 I agree with that as well. League needs to copy the format. Honestly any sport or esport tournament should have losers bracket, group stage type seeding, etc
SPY best LEC team without the cockiness and trask talking. When SPY take gambles, casters say they are desperate. When G2 makes the same gambles, casters overhype them as "best plays". Just see when G2 lost 3 members, Elder and Baron when they tried to hard force a top inhibitor.
I'm not surprised LWX didn't die. He was spoon fed by an MVP jungler and an outstanding support. Crisp needs more recognition, I feel like he was a viable MVP. LWX did great for not dying but Crisp came in clutch so many times for him.
when you know how the result is gonna be with a few known conditions, its boring. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad G2 lost. The problem is that you guys, like many others overlook why they lost. and if you figure it out, you'll see that a lost of western teams commit those same mistakes, over and over again.
this is why we need a loser's bracket. actually just fix the format from group stage to bracket stage. RNG didnt make it because the format sucks, no disresprct to splyce but that should be RNG's place. TL was also a victim of this. fix the format of group stage so that we get the definitely top 8 teams in the winner's bracket then the 9-12 teams will wait in the loser's bracket. this way we will get a better finals. not the finals in the semis or quarters. this will also improve the quality of games. Just copy the fucking TI format -IWDominate
@@hecksters423 checkout his series with locco named facecheck. forgot which episode it is but they're talking about rng not making it to the bracket stage. so i guess it is the episode before the bracket stage. if im wrong maybe the episode after group draws.
@@darkfox1605 Ironically Dota 2 team ranking system "DPC or Dota Pro Circuit" want to change it's format because of "unfair" for smaller or low tier teams to participate on majors..
I like how this problem was in OWL and OWWC this year and nobody has said anything. The MOMENT League of Legends has something like this, 'What can we do to fix this?'
Amen. Everytime NA lost a game EU acted like it was such a big suprise. They celebrated so hard when g2 beat C9 it's like guys.... it's just NA no one actually thought they were going to do much this year maybe and that's a big maybe TL but not c9 or clutch
@@justamoogle5268 FNC was toxic too well at first in the quarter against FPX you can watch the comm.call video on the FNC yt channel you will see they say thinsg like aaahh they just got lucky ahhh they have a bad midlaner but towards i think second game rekkles said : they are not bad, yoz can t win LPL.if you are bad but other than that they were overconfident
@@faker3033 yeah same with other teams, even SKT and FPX have those moments, I've seen their team comms too. You guys just wanna bully EU because they were having a good run this season, come to SEA and see true toxicity.
I'm not sure if you bothered watching the video, but he just talked about what actually happened and possible ways to stop it from happening in the future so it's more fun for the fans to watch. It had nothing to do with G2 specifically. And how can you still say "when G2 beat FPX". I don't personally care too much about either of these teams, I quit League during the Ardent meta and only come around for MSI and Worlds... but Jesus H Christ, G2 got humiliated. What part of you still has the gall to say that G2 can beat FPX?
Probably because we didn't expect it. Ask yourself if you'd be as dissapointed in a 3-0 if G2 swept FPX. If not, you're probably more dissapointed by the fact that the western team lost rather than the exact result.
"Double elimination bracket, I don't think it would have changed anything this year" & "The best team happened to be miles better than the second best team that day" ...How about SKT though ??? Don't you think SKT could have benefited from a double elimination bracket ?? Don't you think SKT was the actual 2nd best team in the tournament ?? I mean, when you look at G2's 3-1 victory vs SKT, the Korean team (and Faker especially, not to mention Effort) were clearly underperforming and throwing, yet they always got the gold advantage and the baron over G2, and even in the last teamfight that made G2 win the 4th game, had anything gone wrong for G2 during that fight (eg : Mata's hook land on Mickyx -> no bump on Faker -> no Perkz ult on Faker -> no kill on Faker -> no kill on Teddy) then it would have made 2-2 and who knows which team would have won game 5 ? My point is : when G2 at their best barely win vs the most underperforming Faker I've ever seen, it was obvious that G2 wouldn't be able to do anything vs FPX as long as FPX just doesn't throw as hard as Faker did. BUT if there was double elimination bracket, SKT could've gone into the loser's bracket to take revenge on G2, then SKT could have faced FPX in the finals for the TRUE finals (the ACTUAL two best teams of the tournament). SKT were just unlucky that they underperformed during the semi-finals because that meant elimination, whereas FPX were lucky to underperform only during the Group Stage (remember that FPX lost 1 game vs JTeam and one game vs Splyce, and if FPX had lost their second game vs JTeam, then FPX wouldn't even have made it out of groups). In my opinion Faker is the most responsible for the G2-FPX Finals disaster, because he lost the semi-finals vs G2 although SKT should have won it to then face FPX in finals for a much more balanced series.
Pluss...skt cant get over g2 split push tactic again and again and again, skt need to to be more desicive to make decision go fight or defend..also very bad performance from faker give huge impact on overall teamfight...fpx is very consistent and with Tian is fantastic jungler, Lwx monster killer and very impresive doin b leadership BOOOM fpx is new meta and world champiiioon.
Aaron Lloyd I said to my mates before semis that SKT v G2 is 50/50, but G2 v FPX is 60/40 whereas SKT v FPX is 70/30. Purely because SKT has a much better matchup into FPX. Turns out G2 was probably 30/70 (they are now 0-5 vs LPL)
@@itsme-es9ts Clid, Khan and Teddy were very good during the entire tournament. Effort had too many bad berformances, but it didn't matter as long as Faker played well because he's the shotcaller. Then, in semi vs G2, Faker had a very bad performance, not only was he getting caught again and again but you also could see the whole SKT team "not knowing what to do" which usually never happens because SKT is used to overwhelm their enemies with quick decisions to take advantages all over the map, making their victory inevitable despite a few kills given here and there. This time, you could practically feel Faker's bad performance not only as a single player, but also as SKT's shotcaller which made the whole team out of sync. Yet, once again, no matter how bad Faker & SKT played vs G2, they still could have won the series, which proves that G2 could only rely on big throws to win vs the best teams like SKT or FPX. SKT threw very hard, FPX just didn't.
@@brianboitano3432 After seeing that finals performance... maybe? It kinda depends which FPX or SKT show up. Up until finals FPX looked clearly worse than SKT, despite SKT's mediocre performance. (This is purely my opinion, you are welcome to disagree with me though).
@@zeann4068 yeah SKT T1 look fragmented. They have a lot of mistake and miscommunication going on with the team, also faker look sort of out of place in that game. That was really unexpected i mean he is faker.
splyce lost 3/0 agains SKT and G2 won 3/1 against SKT, every team ended up in the spot they deserved. I wanted G2 to win worlds but they didnt deserve that spot.
I was thinking of the break between the semifinals and the finals being shortened down. I don't have a clue if that could be the reason g2 lost, or at least be a part of the loss, but I feel like that could help the players focus on the game ahead of them. Also, I think that having the the whole knockout stage I one place would be better than having a grand tour of x region.
Boba 918 an entire week to prepare for a finals is fair. Do you think in 3 days teams can swap strategies, practice picks? I think a week is just the right amount
G2 lost in the picks and ban's phase. The straightforward strategies for each game were easy to read by the Funplus, but the opposite was not true. The G2 team appears to be creative when compared to the other teams in Europe, but, in my opinion, it is exaggerate. The Pyke mid was stomped. Of course, the G2's performance at the MSI augmented the hype around them, but reality sucks.....
I was disappointed with FPX as they didn't live up to their hype during group. But as the tournament progressed, they improved and IG vs FPX was one of the most exciting series i have watched. It's great to see so many strong teams now!
I honestly think that one of the reasons that we had stompings for the last two years at least is the fact that the EU teams are not used to worlds pressure. FNATIC's coach said it last year and I think Grabz alluded to it as well, they did not prep their players well enough. Now it might be that they are just protecting the players, but I honestly think finals experience (for a region) plays a big role. That's why its difficult in traditional sports for new countries to make a big impact in big tournaments (since 1930 the Football world cup has only been won by seven different nations). There is something to be said for collective experience. With two finals under their belt I think EU as a region will become stronger through those team experiences.
But then how does this same logic not apply to FPX and IG who were both overall less experienced on the world stage than everyone they beat in the knockout stage.?
@@theScore_Colten Yes their teams were less experienced, but my thesis is that they (China - as a region) had representation in finals in season 3 and 4. This prepared the region and helps create a greater understanding about how one should approach a final in a very unique way. Those players/coaches who have been there will carry that experience back to the region. Within the next two years I believe we will have a EU team wining worlds. The talent is there, for sure its just about showing up on game day. That being said I am in no way a profesional analyst. Maybe if I get the chance I will pose the question to one of the more knowledgeable sources "Hotline league" or something like that.
Honestly it just felt like FPX was playing a whole different game. Their strategy was foreign and they were just more innovative. They were really one step ahead and their focus on toplane was interesting. LWX played out of his mind without being babysat all game.
really SKT should've made it through, not to shit on G2 but SKT is just a lot more consistent with their "normal" meta we need top 8 to be double elimination instead of single, losing team deserves second chance after coming so far, it'll make the tournament longer too so more viewership and more money.
Worlds is already rather long and exhausting for the players. You would probably need to shorten it somewhere else and make the lower bracket bo3 at max
I think FPX knew the strategy of G2 and they know how to counter it. That's why G2 lost and game 3 picks was so stupid from G2, they prioritize Ezreal when Olaf and Rek'sai is open
Game 3 was g2's best draft, why would u prioritize olaf and reksai when they fall off after 15-20mins, they were getting destroyed early all games so they drafted late game which was good but they just forced unnecessary shit when all they had to do was lay back and outscale
All of G2s pick was good. G2 aint the best gifted individual players but the best macro decision team ever making trades, that's what made them go far upto finals. FPX defeated G2's own game. Thats why we had a stomp finals. If you watch all game FPX will force objective trades that favor them, like dragon over top tower, bot side of the map over herald, G2s 15 min mark mid push. FPX is the better team. Atleast be happy that it is now LEC vs LPL powerhouse, the LCK LCS are now the challengers. What I want to see is Clid in any EU team, the LCK never fail to produce top tier junglers that can be easily inserted to any team.
@@timinfinite I think the first SKT vs Samsung finals where SKT won was way better. The past 2 finals have been so anti climactic and honestly boring. G2 didn't even put up a fight. It also didn't feel as grand as other finals, but that's probably because it's a smaller audience in EU than in Asia.
If I was to be perfectly honest I think there should be some sort of thing that happens within the teams where teams would go to different regions and stay there for a month or two and have a global league series where every team in every region would play against each other, that's why NA is lightyears behind even though mechanically they have some players that are pretty good forcing every team to grow to a higher level of play or be left in the dust.
PivBlast there was an announcement somewhere that there may be a World Cup league tournament where the best of each region go head to head. Now that will be hype but they said it will probably take a few more years of development
Skt played better from the whole tournament compare to g2, g2 is a pure sht since group stage even their opponents know how sht they are. i dont mean that G2 is really bad it's just that they were not the G2 That we were expecting to win it all while skt live up with the expectations until they made those questionable mistakes from semis.
Not really honestly. Imo it felt like the Casters were over hyping everything and trying to hard. There's a reason why for the Penta the were only 2 "Penta worthy" plays. And not just for the finals. This entire worlds just seemed lackluster save for a selected couple teams.
I think in best of 5 series, champions that are played in an earlier game, shouldn't be able to be played in subsequent games. If a series goes to 5 games, you are guaranteed to see around a third of all league champions. This would also force play style variety, showcase individual player skill, and promote meta development. Thoughts?
Finals were boring only for EU fans. I was super exicted to see Doinb smash trashtalkers and finally prove that roaming midlaners can be good even at the highest levels of LoL. I understand that western audience doesn't give a single fck about eastern leagues, but I noticed Doinb back when he was at QG and tuned in into his streams at douyu from time to time. I even tried a lot of his weird tanky builds on traditional mid lane carries and had a lot of fun and wins with them. 3-0 isn't boring when you know a lot of background stories. Also how can 3-0 be boring when FPX plays such a fun and weird play style? Everyone was prasing how fun it is to watch G2 and FPX are literally eastern G2. People were just sad about their team losing without any effort, everyone who didn't care about result or cheered for FPX had a lot of fun watching them playing incredibly fast and agressive League of Legends.
I just feel that the whole tournament lasted too long and the players got really exhausted. On the other hand G2 decided to bootcamp in EU, therefore scrimming worse teams than they were in the East. If they went to Korea they could probably learn the FPX style and prepare better for them. This bo5 was their first time playing vs FPX so I'm not that shocked they had no moves
No you are wrong. In Jankos vlog and doinb interviews they both said they scrimed agianst each other many many times before this final and doinb said he was confident coming jnto this because they won more of those scrims.
Arkadiusz Kielar first of all, G2 was making everyone believe that EU was actually better than Korea and China so they also stayed in EU. Secondly, the Chinese and korean teams also came to EU so they probably scrimmed with the best EU team G2. Thirdly, saying the tournament lasted too long and players are too tired is just a weird excuse, the tournament is the same for all players, they are given time in between late rounds to rest and prepare for their big games. If all players are tired cuz the tournament is too Long, then it's fair isn't it?
Dude Dota 2 teams battle for a whole at least half a year just to have a TI spot before they'll play in the group stage not even including the Majors. It's not really a good reason if they're exhausted
I feel like Riot should done with Semi Finals and Finals on the same last day of Worlds instead of Finals only like FPX vs G2, it feels like it wasn’t worth to watch a game where only 2 teams collide and the result was 3-0. And this is why The International from Dota 2 Tournament format was way way better than LoL’s Worlds.
Tetsucchi TV they got no way to predict that , like cmon how do you predict the result before the game even started? Everyone was rooting for G2 cause this is the best EU has ever offer with the entire team has experience years of pressure already
@@willisbronze9984 I think OP just saying that there is a chance that final will only get 3 game, and it happened for 3 years in a row, so yep, watching the Worlds at the final day, with only 1 series with a potential sweep (3 games only) is totally boring.
To wait hours and hours to watch a 0-3 game is just painful and a waste of time. I can't imagine how it felt for people in the stadium travelling for hours then waiting hours to see this
Duy Nguyen Le Dong What I’m trying to say is that its not worth the money to watch a single series that potentially become a sweeping game like this one. It be different story if the game was 2-3 or something but It will be so much better if they include semi finals games, that way, the audience satisfied what they are watching.
I watched the Finals live and I personally think that the biggest difference is the Jungle. Jangkos or wtv the spelling of his name got out classed and out jungled the whole series.
“EU got 0:3 in world final again, it is so boring, Riot do something!" hmmm, how about don't allow lpl and lck come to the worldchampinship,oh since eu team now seems can beat lck so maybe just no lpl? Or just give champinship to an western team so we can stop seeing some shit complaint like this
I just don't get it, you western fans are the one who hype about EU all tourbernent, you are the one who say G2 is the "wolrd best team ", "better version of FPX". And after getting seriously cracked you now saying the game is too suck and boring, I wonder what would you say if G2 got 3:0
This video literally said that 3-0 stomp is boring (it is). And it said that other teams (EU, KR, NA) need to get better. No one was saying that China were too good so it's boring. The other teams were too bad so it was boring. Wtf is your comment lol.
Valerio Kim I mean, that’s the result of the series, even lpl fans want more than just championship but interesting matches. But what can we or Riot do with it? The 3:0 just mean at that day winner is better team who seize their chance to end game. Before the game start all eu media and fans were hyped about G2 3:0 FPX, if 3:0 is dat bad why not much people stand out and say “no we want a 3:2 final.” Now eu got smashed and eu fans flame around, saying riot should do something to stop a 3:0 final happen again. What a joke. One day if lpl team got 0:3 in world final, we may flame our team player or encourage them do better in next year, but definitely won’t ask Riot do anything to “stop” a “boring game”.
I'm not gonna lie, theScore seem like they are high AF and have no idea what the hell they are talking about from a neutral standpoint. Having 3 3-0 grand finals wasn't even that important, 2017 was the end of the SKT/Korea dynasty and also Faker's "downfall", 2018 was the year of the underdogs with IG and 3 western teams in the top 4, 2019 was the actual RKO from outta nowhere by FPX and perfected matched with the worlds song "Pheonix". Say what you will but the grand final was hype as hell, both FPX and G2 redefined LOL as a game and took what was "meta" and chucked it into the trashcan with stuff like nautilus mid, pyke mid with tiamat and more. There were plenty of crazy plays made and personally this grand final would definitely fit into my top 3 best worlds grand finals. Was it a stomp? Yes, Did that make the finals any worse? No Honestly, this video just seems like a cry about how the west got stomped twice back to back in the grand finals and I would bet a million dollars that if G2 had won 3-0 then this video would be about how this year's worlds was the best worlds ever.
Having a team-response ranking system like the CS majors had awhile ago might fix it; would hopefully create more balanced groups. Yes, this could lead to groups with 2+ teams from the same region, but this could give some cool storylines.
For me the last good final was 2016, but even that lives in the shadow of the amazing ROX vs SKT semifinal. Since 2017 we've just got 3-0 plain finals with an absolute domination by one side that makes you think "how was the other team able to get here?"
I mean to say they aren't a solid team is a tad stupid ngl. They dominated both splits in EU won msi and reached the finals. But I guess they lost one bo5 all year to the best team in the world so they must suck.
Clearly IG was the 2nd best team in this tournament. They were leading in gold in Game 4 and if TheShy didn't int twice in a row they could have force FPX into Game 5.
That's true. At least G2 contested the first game and tried some original stuff. FNC in 2018 just rolled over and died without putting up any resistance or trying anything different whatsoever. It was _embarrassing._
Other team: I dont want my Players have a GF cos its a distraction to them
Doinb: Just flexing my trophy and my Wife
Wife buff dark technologies
OF COURSE, a classic secret weapon!
Having a wife = Winning Worlds
DoinB and Ambition smashed their finals..
laugh in thresh noise*
David Tong Nope, don’t you dare! that joke is dead now.
This season was the year of semis. MSI and World semis were better for me.
Well seemingly every "final" has happened in the semis for the last years as far back as i can remember.
@@GOTHICforLIFE1 I think that the Worlds 2018 real finals was legit in the quarterfinals between KT and IG
Agreed
George Todorov well in hindsight sure, but everyone thought RNG was capable of beating both those teams, yet they lost to G2.
Pretty much every year from 2014 onwards and excluding 2016 because that year the best two teams seeded from opposite sides of the bracket.
i wish we got a best of 5. all the quarter and semifinal games were great.
i mean it was a best of 5, it just went 3-0
@@shroudedinshout I think he may have meant a best of 7 or a best of 3 of BO5s
@@kahzuhnting I think he meant a Bo5 as 3-2 not a 3-0 sweep
I didn't watch fpx semis, but skt g2 semis sucked. The 3-0 was predictable.
We got a best of 5. G2 just sucks
"Meme team and inconsistent" lmao FPX went like 32-6 in the regular season. They're anything but inconsistent.
Ngl it's cuz they're a China team and everyone from the west looks down on any Asian teams for some reason besides skt but lmao
They think too highly of themselves and get overconfident after beating SKT that they thought they won finals and started celebrating lol. Defeat sure feels good for them
I've said this before. Gonna say it again. EU mad cuz EU bad.
G2 got their heads bigger than their game. They were clesrly underprepared in that finals lol
I'm happy that FPX won but god i'd be lying if i say G2 wasn't like a bunch of goldies running around the map
Strange that people keep saying FPX is inconsistent when they topped their spring season with an 87% series winrate and then repeated that in summer with a 93% series winrate. Given the larger sample size of teams in the LPL (16 LPL teams compared to 10 in LEC) that's even more impressive. If that performance doesn't prove consistency I don't really know what will.
It is not just that either. Bear in mind that the best matches that are not 'boring' are those that swing back and forth. So inconsistency may well be due to stiff competition. If G2 is consistent, one can argue they are just facing weak LEC teams.
People say SKT was inconsistent, but they still came back and won both LCK titles.
It’s western fans butthurt cause G2 got stomped saying whatever they can to make themselves feel better basically.
Western fans. They dont care about us in the east. (Except maybe koreans?) But all in all? They deserve to be defeated. Call me bad or what. Idc anyways. 😂
@@nunu7740 "western fans" but what are u ? Lpl fans ? Na fans ? Lck fans ? Remember that lwx himself admitted g2 underperformed, if u can't accept it then u are just delu, fpx thought G2 would have been better, but because g2 prefer do content they lost, and fpx deserve the win, but they were better only at that time, trust me with exp, now bring current g2 vs current fpx and fpx lose the same way g2 lost to them . btw i'm not a g2 fan.
@@tsukuyomiinfini9962 He said that it was not because FPX performed that well, and it was G2 losing bad, so FPX weren't even playing their best either. BTW, how are you gonna compare the two? FPX is a shell of a shell of its former self bruh, losing practically their entire roster from the 2019 run, and even then, I would say it's a 3-2 for G2 since EU has regressed from its 2019 self, with its its team getting swept out of the playoffs by the fourth best team in the tourney lmao, AND they couldn't even win the LEC summer split. ALSO, just because FPX thought G2 were going to be better than whatever the fck they showed on stage, doesn't mean that they thought G2 were better than them or even close to them lmao. Did you not see those games? If a sane person watched a finalist getting ran out of stadium like THAT, then they would probably not think it was not the best performance either lol. Either way, G2 would have gotten at best 3-1'ed by FPX due to Tian being better than Jankos being better in every way shape or form, Perkz being a Kaisa and Xayah two trick (his Yasuo was horrid, so ez target ban), Caps getting clapped by the opposing midlaner for the second year in a row, with Wunder being the only G2 player that has an argument to be the better player at the position in the series. Let's not forget that G2 were getting obliterated by FPX in scrims as well (and it showed on stage lol), if that means anything to you.
I don’t live in the EU time zone so I ended up missing finals. It’s ok tho, because it looked like G2 didn’t show up either
Zee Sin lmao
oooooof
They did show but nothing especial they always outmatch in every team fight. Fpx has a superior skills than G2.
Jesus dude
hoooooo, that sass hahaha
I wouldn’t mind a 3-0 shut out grand final if EVERY game was an edge-of-your-seat nail biting close game, but they weren’t so yeah it did suck and was not that exciting at all.
Fpx vs ig games were exciting
First match was close and exciting. I kept remembering that G2 were behind in all the games against SKT but they didn't go on tilt and kept coming back to win, and they kept fighting back against FPX during that first game. But after they lost, well, they went on tilt and the next two were true stomps.
ArcaneAzmadi i agree, the first game was entertaining because both played so well and I was hoping G2 would make the comeback as well
@@ArcaneAzmadi analyst dub them "untiltable"
>were never behind on any series before fpx.
game one was close.
two and three were just... too hard to watch.
I woke up 5 am to watch the ceremony and the games. Then after watching the first game I knew G2 was going to lose, so I proceeded to sleep again.
good choice
wise choice
Same. Woke up in btwn the 3rd game. Fell asleep again.
This was me during Game 4 of SKT vs G2
Did the same, woke up expecting a game 4 and there wasn’t even a stream on...
When you hype so much about G2 and reality checks in
You got content like this
So true, EU fans baited G2 into thinking they were soooo great. Goes to finals gets swept like a bronze team playing with challengers. They got schooled that a different way to play the midlane is not a bad way to play it. DoinB was roaming and was still ahead of caps in CS omegalul best team in the world.
@@SpeedBattleFury lwx said they underperformed ( im not a g2 fan ) so accept it, maybe if g2 wasn't doing content 1-2 days earlier, it would have been 3-1 for fpx / 3-2 or even 2-3 / anyway fpx won and they deserve it .
IG vs FPX was where the real action this worlds was at... Anyone see those games?
Bomb ass games yo, lit as fuck, when I saw ig at that level I instantly realized that was the real finals, bot teams were back in form (fpx didn't have the greatest start) and dude, can say 100% if IG goes through there they 3-0 g2 as well, wunder and jankos were the 2 biggest problems and theshy is waay better than GimGoon and ning is a world class jungler that was getting back in form, they would exploit g2's top/jungle just like fpx and rookie would just win lane against caps no argument about that
Sorry but most eu fans probably just watched their team’s games and became overconfident lol
@@derekschmidt6798 I couldn't have said it better myself.
man as fpx fan that was the closest series at worlds
@Bully Maguire that's why fpx in spring finals and g2 went home
It’s simple: Just have a 3rd place match to start the show between the 3rd/4th place teams. SKT vs IG would have been a hell of a way to open the show. If you want to make sure the show doesn’t go in too long, make the 3rd place a Bo3, but Bo5s would obviously be better.
EDIT: If people don’t think the teams would care about 3rd, add some incentive behind winning. For example, more prize money for 3rd, compared to 4th.
playing for third place is irrelevant only a losers bracket would be relevant
I agree with this concept, just for the sake of playing a what if scenario between skt and ig
Bad Request that’s disrespectful to the teams who lost, they wouldn’t be in it fully
Bad Request I disagree, if you’ve seen sporting 3rd place matches like the football World Cup it’s just a depressing match which neither team really cares about because they don’t give a shit about 3rd place
YES BRO.
People thinking FPX were a coinflip before the came into worlds were so dumb though
Like, they had the if not one of the most winning-est seasons in LPL history, only losing to IG
thats what happens if you only watch LEC or LCS.
analysts were saying g2 had more clutch/talented players
I agree. They are like a stable G2. I still think G2 at their peak is stronger, but talking about a coin flip team, then you have G2 in a nutshell. They are tiltproof, but they sure can run it down either way
The analysts were heavily biased and were betting on a G2 win lmao until Jatt was the only one who switched and said FPX would win
@@dzubmarinerthat's because it was all biased LEC analysts lol... They were so blinded by the hype
I giggled whenever they said g2 would demolish fpx, if only they knew the power...
FPX inconsistent? Yea right, 27-3 in regular season seems very inconsistent...
I think he was more referring to the group stages where they dropped games to teams considered a lot worse than they were.
@@jesper10201 To be fair, this was their first international tournament
talking about groups
They almost went 0-2 against splyce in groups
@ yes i expect the 1st seed from china to perform better than eu's third seed
Just because your G2 didn't live up to its hype doesn't mean that the Worlds was boring. It's G2's fault under performing in the biggest stage. FPX did their part showing what they are capable of.
Eh I can kinda understand this game gets boring fast like very fast I’ve never seen a game that has so many champions that can make a game pointless and boring. I know there’s normally one or two but this game stacks them.
@@gregorywright9971 the final is sucks cause G2 literally can't do any shit infront of FPX while FPX just running over G2 easily
@@definitelycultured7521 nah nah, even lwx admitted that g2 underperformed, they never acted like they're superior, so if themselves admit that they underperformed it means they thought they'd have been better, i'm not a g2 fan, but u seem to be a g2 hater or lpl fan
@@tsukuyomiinfini9962 bro you literally just proved my point lmao, FPX running over G2 easily cause G2 underperformed hard and who the fk reply to a comment that's like 2 years ago what
@@tsukuyomiinfini9962 Or you just hate LPL lol
1:25 when you say "a lot of the world thought that FPX were just a meme team going into worlds" is just plain wrong and just trying to push a narrative that just isn't true. FPX was one of the favorites by many if not MOST analysts to win the tournament. It is true that MANY of those same analysts started to question their decision, and the same did prolly their fans, after group stage, cus they looked honestly SHIT in group stage. But saying most people thought they were a meme team going into worlds is just straight up bs.
yeah its such a weird narrative: "Nah the first seed lpl team that had a 90% winrate in the lpl (the most stacked region imo) is definitely just a meme team and not a serious contender to win the whole thing. its literally just a matter of brand value and nobody watching lpl, people know about ig now because they won last year and they know rng because its been near the top lpl since forever. No western viewers give a shit about lpl so no one actually knew just how dominant this team was, and instead just have a big EUphoria circlejerk
Yes please. I dont even know why this video exist. If g2 won, this would surely be a celebratory video. Although they have a point about worrying on the future of the league, but dont attack the other team, they worked hard for it. Improve and celebrate whoever wins (they pointed improving in the video).
@@Xalexalexale ESPECIALLY when they were going up against G2, who ran shit like Garen, Soraka and Khazix top in their region... and yet FPX is the "meme team" in that final. OK, dude
@@kingco7667 yeah dude if G2 won this video would be titled, "How G2 changed league history forever" and instead we basically have a guy saying "ugh this tournament was so boring" like lmfao get over yourself
I got nothing against G2, I think they are a great org and I love the personalities on the team, but people latched on to them like the second coming of jesus and they cant handle their loss.
They definitely were not a meme team going INTO worlds, but after group stage (which was by far the easiest group) and FPX underperforming, many fans and analysts became very skeptical. I agree that the vid could have worded it better.
G2 underestimated FPX saw that after they beat SKT, all of Caps' talking made me lose hope. They went into it thinking they had already won which is a recipe for disaster. G2 is a great team and I'm not flaming them but they need to be more respectful to their opponent.
pls just watch a after game interview of g2. They are respectful, yeah the sometimes trashtalk a little but it'S like 5 % . but you only get to see the 5% in highlight videos and stuff.
Dude, no, they just got outclassed. FPX rolled through LPL, IG, and FNC. Groups was the only time they looked shaky. Don't write it off as G2 being disrespectful because they're professionals and know damn wall what they were going into.
Agree
G2s whole stick is memeing. It isnt intended as disrespect, its just friendly competitiveness.
Kinda like Europe in general so arrogant until they get taken down a notch. Good riddance.
G2 was built to counter traditional meta teams. When they get into teams that make their own meta they have trouble (msi: 0-2 vs PVB, 0-2 vs IG) (worlds: 0-3 vs FPX, 1-2 vs Griffin) only exception was the 3-1 vs DWG
Totally agree with this. FPX is something new
@@GantraGaming my fcking damwon HAHAHAHAHAHA
Exacly!!!!!!!!
Underrated comment. This is so true.
The way that Doinb plays mid is too different, G2 couldn't figure it out.
That was not a boring series. It’s only “boring” because the team you wanted to win lost. That was watching a master class performance of League at a level that few teams have ever attained. FPX truly seemed to give their very best performance in that series and do it when it mattered. Each game they set up risky plays and employed risky strategies, they executed them near perfectly. They danced around one of the best teams in the tournament and their jungler (who was a no name before this year to most westerners) showed one of the most convincing Lee Sin performances I have seen.
If you think it was boring than you were only focused on the narrative, it’s hype for long time players watching how a good team unfolds it’s strategies and counters their opposition.
It didn’t suck. It was awesome watching G2 get crushed I enjoyed every moment of it
same xd
Same xd
Why?
fnc fan?
Tru
And people we're hyping up G2 as the OG Dota equivalent of League of Legends.
OG brings Tears of Joy, while G2 just brings tears.
Legit
Yeah man so disappointing
Nice pasta
FPX is OG Dota, they were the "unDeRdogS" in the finals. Lol. FLY PHOENIX FLY
Jay O. FPX isn't OG Dota because they didn't mount incredible comebacks from deficits.
and they don't have a Ceeeeeeeeeb! moment.
Both were unique teams
G2 were trolls and FPX was a meme team
I am actually happy a meme team won the worlds but sad my own meme team (G2) didnt
GG FPX, you fly fucking high and keep making me fear that nautilus mid
Yeah fpx play style is so OP plus very good individual performance ....G2 split push tactic is work very well to counter skt but not enough to play again a team that dont hesitate to make decisive decision and always force g2 to fight as a group and cant split push...fpx rarely go to defend while g2 split push they always force g2 to fight and fight..
How is FPX a meme team?
“FPX was a meme team” umm what are u smoking they were a favorite from the start they destroyed in LPL lol
Millies overuse and misuse memes just as they do terms like int, tilt and thicc. G2 was the meme team LOL. Talk the talk but can't walk the walk. Always pretending to laugh.
@@inconvenientfacts58 they were laughing the whole series have u watched their game comms?
1 Million Subscribers Without Videos Cause they were getting stomped so badly they knew they had no chances of coming back from that game and 2-0, so mind aswell laugh it off.
They are favourite from the start? Never heard any fan or caster say that
@지우 pretty sure even lck dont think highly of them, especially after the group stage
this video was a waste of time lol. How do you stop a 3-0? get better.
Better yet, stop underestimating the other team
They're too Delusional that they even made a video about it, Stay Delusional EU :D
LoL, if G2 stomp FPX 3-0 this video will be titled “The story of best team in League of Legend history”
If it doesn’t fit your narrative of course it sucks. LMAO
@Samo Gledam I enjoy seeing G2 bandwagon hype crash and burn to ashes
Ofcourse they would narrate it like that because fpx stomped shit g2 now they are narrating it like this lmao what a double standard.
But hey how much i love to see fpx destroy g2 in the finals we really could see that league now is really boring when a team(g2) like this with their flipcoin teamfights got to the finals it was not funny. We really could have some losers bracket like dota2 and tekken losers bracket helps to rid out those team that are not that good and will make the finals boring.
Samo Gledam last 3 finals
and people were saying G2 is the team OG of League before the finals start LMFAO. lol eu fanboys pls understand that your region will never produce a GOAT team like OG.
Best BM/salty moment ever this year
Also, NA needs to use DoinB strategy if they want to be decent
What strategy is it if you don't mind?
@@josefnicanor1430 get a mid lane champ with good waveclear and lane pressure then push wave constantly to roam and gank with jg. Or just have a proactive jungler and laners that can set up properly for ganks. That should guarantee an early lead unless the opponent can return the pressure elsewhere or counter the ganks.
The "4 gangbanging 2 " technique hehe
@@josefnicanor1430 chocking out lanes. G2 literally couldnt do anything . Did you see bot in 3rd game . First time ive been impressed
Josef Nicanor nah don't listen to these ppl above just know this : GET A WIFEY = PROFIT
XDDDDD
jk lmao
Doinb said "G2 got lucky vs SKT"
You don't get lucky 3 times, sorry.
@@G_Kchrst still bitter g2 lost?
@@G_Kchrst you really do. Every caster said, T1 members are better and played better. They lost in draft and from mistakes. G2 played like dogshit in those games. So did T1 but it seems G2 fans seem to overlook that. You dont play shit 6 games in a row without it being a mistake :)
Not really, they were better than SKT but SKT were trash, the fact that they barely made it past SKT despite having superior drafts just goes to show they weren't strong enough.
Skt got outdrafted and g2 got outdrafted and outclassed
Fpx just played extremely good.
I mean look at lwx: 0 deaths whole finals
LWX was spoon fed by an MVP jungler and an outstanding support. LWX didn't die because Crisp came in clutch so many times for him. He also set up so many easy kills for LWX. Crisp is low key the MVP.
@@kayceegemaol8727 yea Crisp Thresh was clean af...
Fpx were just great as a whole team
Crisp made it LWX look like had invincible health cheat bar. Better support wins
Marvin Seidl g2 played really bad at the same time...... they looked like toddlers being bullied for their lunch money
@@SashaSlvt I don't think G2 played bad, FPX did a lot of homework than any Koreans teams. They banning Xayah away from Perkz, they anticipate G2 might play Pyke and they bully Wunder many times because he is the easiest member of G2 rather than go botlane like what usually Korean teams roam instead of top.
1:28 this is just a straight up lie. Everybody who knew FPX thought they were a top 3 team AT LEAST
Worlds Finals doesn't suck, G2 does
this FPX remembers me a lot of the wings in TI6, they play as a team and know exactly how to play to maximize the other players, they can play anything anywhere and will stomp you anyway
Hope that their organization is not like wings.
@@jacinthfabella7576 League Orgs are not as volatile as the Dota Orgs tbh.
Wings org robbed them lmao
Wings org might be volatile,
But the one hammer the nail into the coffin is china's game association,
Wings pepehands
gonna say it right now, g2 never dominated though, msi they left groups as third, and does anybody really think theyd have beaten IG? Ig disrespecting TL is the only reason g2 won that tournament, they then spent summer literally trolling stage games, and refusing to scrim because they didnt want to share strats and "didnt need it", they then almost lost a bo5 to fnatic multiple times at the end of that season, went into worlds, got out of groups in second position, beat damwon fair and square, a third place lck team, with a pretty rough bot lane pair, which let perkz rightfully carry, against skt they had a gold lead of 1.5% or more for less than 7% of the series, yet everybody still talked about how they "destroyed skt".... as they won three games off of the back of a single clutch teamfight each, and sure, fair enough you deserve that win for doing that, but then fpx was an even better early game team than the fnatic that almost beat g2 twice, and miles ahead of the korean giants in skt in early game plays that were already pushing g2 to 7k gold deficits within 30 minutes. if g2 had actually practiced their early game after the fnatic series using it as a fucking wake up call, theyd have at least been able to stay competitive, but instead they spent the tournament thinking theyd be unstoppable mid game anyways so why bother, and it bit them in the ass hard.
Exactly this. It was just casters/reddit bias and stupid narratives, g2 best team in the world my ass, got hard exposed by IG at msi and now by FPX at worlds.
Best of ones don't matter tho.
@@adtoxic3344 i brought up the MSI group stage to show that if they got two hard teams in a worlds group they wouldnt have gotten out of it. normally the hard to prepare for teams shine in bo1 over the macro orientated teams like SKT, but skt did better that group stage.
they werent dominating, they were just better than other good teams, like they have 8-3 vs SKT in this year
I couldn't agree more. Also, they lost all 3 drafts hard, which is more coach's fault than players but still worth mentioning as it led to their defeat in theese games. Regards.
This stomp was expected, most people are frustrated because they were on the G2 hype train...
I was expecting this stomp since quarterfinals ts ts lck just disappoints me xD
@@fvjxznvueaepd8u I didn't watch the finals, just saw the score in game and I was not really surprised...
bafana Mhlamvu yeahh i was more surprised how lck lose to g2 when they were not lookin good since group stage xd u shud watch the opening ceremony of the finals it is more entertaining than the finals itself.
@@fvjxznvueaepd8u yeah this Worlds wasn't very entertaining to say the least...
I really wanted Griffin and Damwon to go further, especially Griffin...
While I love the players on G2, the fans annoy me, so I was having a good time watching G2 lose.
Tbh i was pissed at g2 laughing while inting in the 2nd game
Other than that, yeah i agree
@@simplyskrypt3914 Why? Every team has shit head fans. There is nothing that makes G2 fans specially annoying.
@João Morato now enjoy the 0-3
Now G2 fans have 0 Worlds to brag... SKT fans have 3 Worlds to brag about.
@CoreForEinsLife Thinking MSI is equivalent to Worlds... yikes.
"Is it just Me , Or this guy salty that G2 lost?"
XerRact western media to its finest
No, you just are salty that your team lost to g2/going with trend of shitting on g2 even if they won everything and had a 2nd place at worlds
Truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
Ok gamers
@@Xerract Ok pal
This kind of reminds me of RNG's story
RNG's story:
- Uzi won All Stars 2017 1vs1
- RNG won LPL spring split 2018
- RNG won MSI 2018
- LPL won Rift Rivals 2018
- RNG won LPL summer split 2018
and then lose 2-3 to G2 at Semifinals
G2's story:
- Caps won All Stars 2018 1vs1
- G2 won LEC spring split 2019
- G2 won MSI 2019
- LEC won Rift Rivals 2019
- G2 won LEC summer split 2019
and then lose 0-3 to FPX at Finals
Scripted or just Karma doing her bitchy work🤔
Rng lose in quarter finals to g2
@@CobradorDeOnibus oh yeah got quarters and semi mixed up but what im trying to say is that they both have the same story
Biggest upset imo. I was rooting for RNG since 2016, hurts me every year. There's some curse on hyping teams like they did on RNG last year and G2 this year.
There's a curse on the grand slam. No team has been able to achieve it yet, RNG and G2 were the closest to even come close to it.
@@MrWarhead16 Like TL in the msi like everybody thought they were going to win cause they beat the worlds champion so they were picked by the analyst to win it but of course no just like this worlds where every analyst except one picked g2 as winners but of course nope so hyping and rooting for teams is what makes them lose and it's a curse Or Scripted and just done for fand and money from fans
A team that lost one game over the entire summer split was closed flippy and inconsistent?
Sorry one series
that trigerred me too
even the analysts played down fpx like they werent stomping the lpl..a far more competitive region
@@ghostzz. I'm a fnatic fan and I was still like hello??
People got just confused by one (!) shaky games against splyce.
are you kidding ??
watching G2 get their fudge packed was exquisite ….A fitting end to all their trash-talk we had to endure this season
Honestly, would you have rathered players said nothing to each other throughout the season, say 'we will do our best this year!' and leave it at that? That's not how rivalrys or storylines are made. When everyone is too respectful nothing interesting happens
G2 is a team that has fun and trashtalk for memes, they are even memeing themselves on their fanpage, but i think you prefer teams that are always kind and are boring
Anon Falco I think you misunderstand what he was saying. Trash talk definitely makes things interesting for two sides: if they win, fans of the team love them even more. But if they lose, everyone that they have been trash talking gets to throw it right back in their face and they can’t say a thing about.
I don’t think he was saying trash talking is a bad thing. I think he’s saying that he’s satisfied that G2 has to eat ALL of the trash talk that they’ve been dishing out all year. And I agree with him! It’s so good to see the cocky giants fall so hard :)
@@calebleake7948 they don't care about being hated by other team fans
crybaby g2tards
This just sounds like a western opinion to me. I'm of course also western and I found the finals super fun to be honest.
Exactly, fpx showed superior teamfighting and great macro. They were playing good league of legends, I feel like most people who said this years finals was boring didn't remember the finals for the past few years
@@timinfinite How is a 3-0 shit stomp where the other team doesnt even do anything for the entire bo5 a good thing?
LoaThunder lmao imagine saying that G2 didn't do anything. G2 played well but they didn't have the answers to fpx. DoinBs roaming style and nautilus pick cornered wunder and pushed caps in at the same time. FPX had a superior bot lane and crush the matchup against perkz and mikyx. G2 did play the game, they probably put up a better fight than skt would have this year they were just exposed.
@@timinfinite G2 got shit stomped 3-0, if they would have done any of the shit they did against skt they would at least have had a chance in a game.
LoaThunder well your actually correct,they did use their bad early game in the skt series against fox which already has a strong early game,and they tried they coinflippy teamfighting style against the best teamfighting team in the world
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This is the problem pro League of Legends has been facing since the first season. The game doesn't allow comebacks to happen without very large misplays. At the pro level, the team that looks ahead at the 15 minute mark is almost always the team that wins.
It felt as tho G2 was playing FPX’s game and not playing their own game.
Just like OG vs TL at TI, playing OG’s game instead of their own.
Except watching OG outdraft, outplay, outsmart and meme hard was a thing of fucking beauty. I like both leauge and dota but have to be honest, the international mops the floor with worlds in many ways (except obviously the opening with those cool animations and holograms or whatever, they nailed those).
@@r2in360 Might have something to do with dota prize pool dwarfing league's. Because riot pays coaches and teams throughout the season and valve doesn't, having such a huge prize raises the stakes quite a bit.
@@johnmalvent2189 It's the format for me, teams play a lot more games against each other and get a feel for how their opponents play, when theres so many games in the group stages and then also theres a losers bracket the players don't just have to rely on vods to figure out their opponents they can also get a shot against each other multiple times.
I play a lot of dota and league but Dota 2 TI was way enjoyable and thrilling to watch than Worlds. For gods sake league please give us amazing matches
@@r2in360 I agree with that as well. League needs to copy the format. Honestly any sport or esport tournament should have losers bracket, group stage type seeding, etc
the worlds finals is literally a blur because i woke up at 5am just to see a 3-0 lmfao
dude, FPX win worlds only because they are too strong, they dominate lpl through the whole summmer, saying FPX dumbest and a meme team u so bias
SPY best LEC team without the cockiness and trask talking. When SPY take gambles, casters say they are desperate. When G2 makes the same gambles, casters overhype them as "best plays". Just see when G2 lost 3 members, Elder and Baron when they tried to hard force a top inhibitor.
Fpx didn't face any korean team yet
@@bloodmoon4127 Fpx beat iG who stomped Griffin
True
I'm not surprised LWX didn't die. He was spoon fed by an MVP jungler and an outstanding support. Crisp needs more recognition, I feel like he was a viable MVP. LWX did great for not dying but Crisp came in clutch so many times for him.
simple; its grand finals. dont choke... fpx played great and dominated with their picks.
Anyone who thrashes on how "boring" this was are making it too obvious that they're G2 fans. I enjoyed the series even if G2 beat skt 1-2.
Not a g2 fan, but the semifinals were all more entertaining. Msi finals and semifinals were more entertaining. It was just an unexciting series.
Hoobyj yeah, except for the first game, the other two are like challengers vs silvers, slaughter rather than games
when you know how the result is gonna be with a few known conditions, its boring. Don't get me wrong, I'm glad G2 lost. The problem is that you guys, like many others overlook why they lost. and if you figure it out, you'll see that a lost of western teams commit those same mistakes, over and over again.
this is why we need a loser's bracket.
actually just fix the format from group stage to bracket stage. RNG didnt make it because the format sucks, no disresprct to splyce but that should be RNG's place. TL was also a victim of this. fix the format of group stage so that we get the definitely top 8 teams in the winner's bracket then the 9-12 teams will wait in the loser's bracket. this way we will get a better finals. not the finals in the semis or quarters. this will also improve the quality of games.
Just copy the fucking TI format -IWDominate
in a loser bracket format finals would probably be FPX-IG or FPX-SKT, which would be more deserved
Was there a clip of IWD saying that?
@@hecksters423 checkout his series with locco named facecheck. forgot which episode it is but they're talking about rng not making it to the bracket stage. so i guess it is the episode before the bracket stage. if im wrong maybe the episode after group draws.
so basically the dota2 format of tournaments? yes it is way better
@@darkfox1605 Ironically Dota 2 team ranking system "DPC or Dota Pro Circuit" want to change it's format because of "unfair" for smaller or low tier teams to participate on majors..
3-0 is fun when the opponent team is cocky as fuck and thinking themselves that they could 3-0 FPX days before the game even started
I like how this problem was in OWL and OWWC this year and nobody has said anything.
The MOMENT League of Legends has something like this, 'What can we do to fix this?'
Seems more "What we can do to an occidental team win the worlds?"
Just you; I loved every moment of it. EU were toxic to everyone all year so seeing them get 3-0 was lovely
Amen. Everytime NA lost a game EU acted like it was such a big suprise. They celebrated so hard when g2 beat C9 it's like guys.... it's just NA no one actually thought they were going to do much this year maybe and that's a big maybe TL but not c9 or clutch
FNC wasn't toxic, G2 have rabid supporters and are cocky but they weren't are toxic as SKT fans still being salty when their team lose.
@@rokor3578 they've won, ofcourse they'll celebrate, plus don't disregard NA, they may be shitty now but one day they might win worlds
@@justamoogle5268 FNC was toxic too well at first in the quarter against FPX you can watch the comm.call video on the FNC yt channel you will see they say thinsg like aaahh they just got lucky ahhh they have a bad midlaner but towards i think second game rekkles said : they are not bad, yoz can t win LPL.if you are bad but other than that they were overconfident
@@faker3033 yeah same with other teams, even SKT and FPX have those moments, I've seen their team comms too. You guys just wanna bully EU because they were having a good run this season, come to SEA and see true toxicity.
I can already feel the salt from the title alone, you won't say the same when G2 beat FPX.
Yuwen T 西方媒体。习惯就好
I'm not sure if you bothered watching the video, but he just talked about what actually happened and possible ways to stop it from happening in the future so it's more fun for the fans to watch. It had nothing to do with G2 specifically. And how can you still say "when G2 beat FPX". I don't personally care too much about either of these teams, I quit League during the Ardent meta and only come around for MSI and Worlds... but Jesus H Christ, G2 got humiliated. What part of you still has the gall to say that G2 can beat FPX?
Yuwen T this is not about fpx beat g2 .-. read the title again
Probably because we didn't expect it. Ask yourself if you'd be as dissapointed in a 3-0 if G2 swept FPX. If not, you're probably more dissapointed by the fact that the western team lost rather than the exact result.
"Double elimination bracket, I don't think it would have changed anything this year"
&
"The best team happened to be miles better than the second best team that day"
...How about SKT though ???
Don't you think SKT could have benefited from a double elimination bracket ??
Don't you think SKT was the actual 2nd best team in the tournament ??
I mean, when you look at G2's 3-1 victory vs SKT, the Korean team (and Faker especially, not to mention Effort) were clearly underperforming and throwing, yet they always got the gold advantage and the baron over G2, and even in the last teamfight that made G2 win the 4th game, had anything gone wrong for G2 during that fight (eg : Mata's hook land on Mickyx -> no bump on Faker -> no Perkz ult on Faker -> no kill on Faker -> no kill on Teddy) then it would have made 2-2 and who knows which team would have won game 5 ?
My point is : when G2 at their best barely win vs the most underperforming Faker I've ever seen, it was obvious that G2 wouldn't be able to do anything vs FPX as long as FPX just doesn't throw as hard as Faker did.
BUT if there was double elimination bracket, SKT could've gone into the loser's bracket to take revenge on G2, then SKT could have faced FPX in the finals for the TRUE finals (the ACTUAL two best teams of the tournament).
SKT were just unlucky that they underperformed during the semi-finals because that meant elimination, whereas FPX were lucky to underperform only during the Group Stage (remember that FPX lost 1 game vs JTeam and one game vs Splyce, and if FPX had lost their second game vs JTeam, then FPX wouldn't even have made it out of groups).
In my opinion Faker is the most responsible for the G2-FPX Finals disaster, because he lost the semi-finals vs G2 although SKT should have won it to then face FPX in finals for a much more balanced series.
Pluss...skt cant get over g2 split push tactic again and again and again, skt need to to be more desicive to make decision go fight or defend..also very bad performance from faker give huge impact on overall teamfight...fpx is very consistent and with Tian is fantastic jungler, Lwx monster killer and very impresive doin b leadership BOOOM fpx is new meta and world champiiioon.
Aaron Lloyd I said to my mates before semis that SKT v G2 is 50/50, but G2 v FPX is 60/40 whereas SKT v FPX is 70/30. Purely because SKT has a much better matchup into FPX. Turns out G2 was probably 30/70 (they are now 0-5 vs LPL)
@@itsme-es9ts Clid, Khan and Teddy were very good during the entire tournament.
Effort had too many bad berformances, but it didn't matter as long as Faker played well because he's the shotcaller.
Then, in semi vs G2, Faker had a very bad performance, not only was he getting caught again and again but you also could see the whole SKT team "not knowing what to do" which usually never happens because SKT is used to overwhelm their enemies with quick decisions to take advantages all over the map, making their victory inevitable despite a few kills given here and there. This time, you could practically feel Faker's bad performance not only as a single player, but also as SKT's shotcaller which made the whole team out of sync.
Yet, once again, no matter how bad Faker & SKT played vs G2, they still could have won the series, which proves that G2 could only rely on big throws to win vs the best teams like SKT or FPX. SKT threw very hard, FPX just didn't.
@@RiotBrosGaming Fpx is better then Skt
@@brianboitano3432 After seeing that finals performance... maybe? It kinda depends which FPX or SKT show up. Up until finals FPX looked clearly worse than SKT, despite SKT's mediocre performance. (This is purely my opinion, you are welcome to disagree with me though).
Well at least the Opening Ceremony is more entertaining than the exact game.
3:55 but splyce almost won two games out of three against FPX?
G2 just doesn't play well, also SKT T1, they didn't Play well too
Almost is never enough.. just saying
@@zeann4068 yeah SKT T1 look fragmented. They have a lot of mistake and miscommunication going on with the team, also faker look sort of out of place in that game. That was really unexpected i mean he is faker.
splyce lost 3/0 agains SKT and G2 won 3/1 against SKT, every team ended up in the spot they deserved. I wanted G2 to win worlds but they didnt deserve that spot.
@@ezequieltamez9318 splyce lose 3-1 against skt not 3-0
I dont mind finals being a stomp, i just enjoy the event as a whole :)
I watched the Worlds Grand Finals, then I have to watch TI8 and 9 Grand Finals to actually feel what the grand finals is
Yeah ti8 was a miracle and ti9 was just memes with style
ti7 was a 3-0 as well, but damn was that still hype
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I'm proud of FPX. Especially for Doinb for his story from bottom to the top
I was thinking of the break between the semifinals and the finals being shortened down. I don't have a clue if that could be the reason g2 lost, or at least be a part of the loss, but I feel like that could help the players focus on the game ahead of them. Also, I think that having the the whole knockout stage I one place would be better than having a grand tour of x region.
I agree. It's ridiculous how there's an entire week between semis and grand finals.
Not sure the time between matters much. Maybe. Check pro usa football.
Boba 918 an entire week to prepare for a finals is fair. Do you think in 3 days teams can swap strategies, practice picks? I think a week is just the right amount
I think it's nice. A week to build up hype, prepare for your next opponent and get into game mode.
G2 lost in the picks and ban's phase. The straightforward strategies for each game were easy to read by the Funplus, but the opposite was not true. The G2 team appears to be creative when compared to the other teams in Europe, but, in my opinion, it is exaggerate. The Pyke mid was stomped. Of course, the G2's performance at the MSI augmented the hype around them, but reality sucks.....
Just because their 'team' lost, they're calling it trash, or they think the finals suck. LoL why don't u take your L???
So true
OG stomped ti9 finals, but they did it with style, even losing the first game intentionally to give liquid fans hope
But Dota is only a 60% draft game and LoL looks like a at least 95% draft game. In Dota you can still win with a weaker draft, in LoL you just cant
Btw FPX is the "Wings Gaming" in League..
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Loved the video 🤘🏼
I was disappointed with FPX as they didn't live up to their hype during group. But as the tournament progressed, they improved and IG vs FPX was one of the most exciting series i have watched. It's great to see so many strong teams now!
G2 got possessed by the spirit of NA. They trash talked up to the finals and then choked so hard.
They acctualy said FPX is the hardest opponent, even harder than SKT
They pulled a doublelift
@@qwertzu1195 nah they pull a zven move l000l
choked? Nah just outclassed.
How is FPX a meme team exactly? They crushed LPL this yeat.
2019 worlds was fake asf, cmon my dude look at skt, g2, IG performances
G2 underperforming when FPX clearly was better lol
because of how they play, malphite mid etc.
Irineu José Dude have you really watch their games? IG made a fuckton of mistakes specially TheShy, SKT also made mistakes and G2 was a huge mistake.
Irineu José if you think it that way, then every game is fake
G2 need more midlaner on their team
Same with skt if they didn't lose season 5 msi and season 6 spring split final and season 7 if skt didnt lose the summer split finals and worlds.
Yeah I heard DoinB and Rookie are joining them for 2020. Can't wait :^)
@@Terofu 5 midlaner meta xD
Still waiting for Nemesis to join G2 as mid then Cap become something else
Nemesis is dogshit
I honestly think that one of the reasons that we had stompings for the last two years at least is the fact that the EU teams are not used to worlds pressure. FNATIC's coach said it last year and I think Grabz alluded to it as well, they did not prep their players well enough. Now it might be that they are just protecting the players, but I honestly think finals experience (for a region) plays a big role. That's why its difficult in traditional sports for new countries to make a big impact in big tournaments (since 1930 the Football world cup has only been won by seven different nations). There is something to be said for collective experience. With two finals under their belt I think EU as a region will become stronger through those team experiences.
But then how does this same logic not apply to FPX and IG who were both overall less experienced on the world stage than everyone they beat in the knockout stage.?
@@theScore_Colten Yes their teams were less experienced, but my thesis is that they (China - as a region) had representation in finals in season 3 and 4. This prepared the region and helps create a greater understanding about how one should approach a final in a very unique way. Those players/coaches who have been there will carry that experience back to the region. Within the next two years I believe we will have a EU team wining worlds. The talent is there, for sure its just about showing up on game day. That being said I am in no way a profesional analyst. Maybe if I get the chance I will pose the question to one of the more knowledgeable sources "Hotline league" or something like that.
Honestly it just felt like FPX was playing a whole different game. Their strategy was foreign and they were just more innovative. They were really one step ahead and their focus on toplane was interesting. LWX played out of his mind without being babysat all game.
really SKT should've made it through, not to shit on G2 but SKT is just a lot more consistent with their "normal" meta
we need top 8 to be double elimination instead of single, losing team deserves second chance after coming so far, it'll make the tournament longer too so more viewership and more money.
Yeah same like dota 2 TI
yeah, i like Worlds a lot more than TI but sadly TI have the better format, they got space for comebacks
Worlds is already rather long and exhausting for the players. You would probably need to shorten it somewhere else and make the lower bracket bo3 at max
I don't think they would make alot from making worlds longer mostly cause world's serves as a giant ad for lol
@@IZISkull longer airtime = more slots for sponsorship and ads = more money
I think FPX knew the strategy of G2 and they know how to counter it. That's why G2 lost and game 3 picks was so stupid from G2, they prioritize Ezreal when Olaf and Rek'sai is open
Game 3 was g2's best draft, why would u prioritize olaf and reksai when they fall off after 15-20mins, they were getting destroyed early all games so they drafted late game which was good but they just forced unnecessary shit when all they had to do was lay back and outscale
So when you say why didnt tehy prioritize olaf or reksai i dont know what the fuck youre talking about
@@ZenkaLTU when has perks ever played ez and what would ez even do in that draft. it was a safe pick and showed G2 had no options
@@Jameezy8D ez was a shit pick i agree, but their draft was still better
All of G2s pick was good.
G2 aint the best gifted individual players but the best macro decision team ever making trades, that's what made them go far upto finals. FPX defeated G2's own game.
Thats why we had a stomp finals.
If you watch all game FPX will force objective trades that favor them, like dragon over top tower, bot side of the map over herald, G2s 15 min mark mid push. FPX is the better team.
Atleast be happy that it is now LEC vs LPL powerhouse, the LCK LCS are now the challengers.
What I want to see is Clid in any EU team, the LCK never fail to produce top tier junglers that can be easily inserted to any team.
they got outdrafted. outplayed. and outskilled. thats it.
Yeah like facing a bronze team in the semi-finals
Easy problem. Have all NA/EU go through play-ins, and all LPL/LCK directly to the main event.
One thing I have to say: “Nice Flash, Jankos.”
It was indeed a nice flash. He dodged the lee sin q and survived.
Kaycee Gemaol “dodge”
I watched it, and what I can say is that on G2's side it was on bad shotcalling by Jankos and Perkz, and bronze plays by Caps. Caps felt like a bot
Caps is a bot
@@FireFox1671 he sure damn acted like it
First time I almost fell asleep during a finals
Well I stayed up until 2:30 AM to watch it here...
Gewb really? I think this years finals is the best out of the past 3/4 years
@@timinfinite I think the first SKT vs Samsung finals where SKT won was way better. The past 2 finals have been so anti climactic and honestly boring. G2 didn't even put up a fight. It also didn't feel as grand as other finals, but that's probably because it's a smaller audience in EU than in Asia.
@@timinfinite lmao the only game G2 put up a fight was game 1, that's it.
I actually did fall asleep and Im from EU
I mean what can we do? It’s the teams fault if they get stomped in finals, they have to be the ones to help themselves
If I was to be perfectly honest I think there should be some sort of thing that happens within the teams where teams would go to different regions and stay there for a month or two and have a global league series where every team in every region would play against each other, that's why NA is lightyears behind even though mechanically they have some players that are pretty good
forcing every team to grow to a higher level of play or be left in the dust.
Pro NA teams can simply train on the other servers.
Game one: Oh shit this is so exiting! I think this series is close !!
Game two: I think Tian is Omnipresent
More international tournaments, group stage seeding instead of elimation and double elimation play offs. Pretty much more dota 2
Pass. Worlds is special cause it only happens once a year. How to avoid a 3-0 is easy, though. Just spot a team a game when they go down 2-0
@@MitDau87 Do any other esports or sports tournaments spot teams? I honestly don't know. Tend to agree with op though.
@@MitDau87 I got a mixed opinion about international tournament, but I would definitely want Worlds to have the same layout as TI.
PivBlast there was an announcement somewhere that there may be a World Cup league tournament where the best of each region go head to head. Now that will be hype but they said it will probably take a few more years of development
Tim Infinite world cup means country teams championship just as pubg worlds cup is
G2 didn't play well, neither SKT T1.
Inzuuu SKT played great, but made cuticular mistakes I’d say, team fight positioning wasn’t great
I would even say skt was stronger just did mistakes which they could have fixed for finals. But its okay 2nd place for Europe not bad!
SKT had more gold in the series G2. They (faker) just kept getting caught late game
Effort barely got any experience worldwide, mata wasnt in shape at all. Without a sup like Wolf is kinda hard for them
Skt played better from the whole tournament compare to g2, g2 is a pure sht since group stage even their opponents know how sht they are. i dont mean that G2 is really bad it's just that they were not the G2 That we were expecting to win it all while skt live up with the expectations until they made those questionable mistakes from semis.
This channel has been so damn negative lately and it’s making me wonder why I follow. Finals was fine
JayJuann just another salty western media
Not really honestly. Imo it felt like the Casters were over hyping everything and trying to hard. There's a reason why for the Penta the were only 2 "Penta worthy" plays. And not just for the finals. This entire worlds just seemed lackluster save for a selected couple teams.
"So, FunPlus Phoenix, who have the best, dumbest esports team name" this line alone shows how shit of a news channel this one is
I think in best of 5 series, champions that are played in an earlier game, shouldn't be able to be played in subsequent games. If a series goes to 5 games, you are guaranteed to see around a third of all league champions. This would also force play style variety, showcase individual player skill, and promote meta development. Thoughts?
Finals were boring only for EU fans. I was super exicted to see Doinb smash trashtalkers and finally prove that roaming midlaners can be good even at the highest levels of LoL. I understand that western audience doesn't give a single fck about eastern leagues, but I noticed Doinb back when he was at QG and tuned in into his streams at douyu from time to time. I even tried a lot of his weird tanky builds on traditional mid lane carries and had a lot of fun and wins with them. 3-0 isn't boring when you know a lot of background stories.
Also how can 3-0 be boring when FPX plays such a fun and weird play style? Everyone was prasing how fun it is to watch G2 and FPX are literally eastern G2. People were just sad about their team losing without any effort, everyone who didn't care about result or cheered for FPX had a lot of fun watching them playing incredibly fast and agressive League of Legends.
I just feel that the whole tournament lasted too long and the players got really exhausted.
On the other hand G2 decided to bootcamp in EU, therefore scrimming worse teams than they were in the East. If they went to Korea they could probably learn the FPX style and prepare better for them. This bo5 was their first time playing vs FPX so I'm not that shocked they had no moves
Except that pretty much all the team from China and Korea were in EU to bootcamp too.
How did the tournament last too long if it's been this way for years..
No you are wrong. In Jankos vlog and doinb interviews they both said they scrimed agianst each other many many times before this final and doinb said he was confident coming jnto this because they won more of those scrims.
Arkadiusz Kielar first of all, G2 was making everyone believe that EU was actually better than Korea and China so they also stayed in EU. Secondly, the Chinese and korean teams also came to EU so they probably scrimmed with the best EU team G2. Thirdly, saying the tournament lasted too long and players are too tired is just a weird excuse, the tournament is the same for all players, they are given time in between late rounds to rest and prepare for their big games. If all players are tired cuz the tournament is too Long, then it's fair isn't it?
Dude Dota 2 teams battle for a whole at least half a year just to have a TI spot before they'll play in the group stage not even including the Majors. It's not really a good reason if they're exhausted
I feel like Riot should done with Semi Finals and Finals on the same last day of Worlds instead of Finals only like FPX vs G2, it feels like it wasn’t worth to watch a game where only 2 teams collide and the result was 3-0. And this is why The International from Dota 2 Tournament format was way way better than LoL’s Worlds.
Tetsucchi TV they got no way to predict that , like cmon how do you predict the result before the game even started? Everyone was rooting for G2 cause this is the best EU has ever offer with the entire team has experience years of pressure already
@@willisbronze9984 I think OP just saying that there is a chance that final will only get 3 game, and it happened for 3 years in a row, so yep, watching the Worlds at the final day, with only 1 series with a potential sweep (3 games only) is totally boring.
To wait hours and hours to watch a 0-3 game is just painful and a waste of time. I can't imagine how it felt for people in the stadium travelling for hours then waiting hours to see this
Tetsucchi TV No it's not! IT suck!
Duy Nguyen Le Dong What I’m trying to say is that its not worth the money to watch a single series that potentially become a sweeping game like this one. It be different story if the game was 2-3 or something but It will be so much better if they include semi finals games, that way, the audience satisfied what they are watching.
I thought it's the grand final of the IEM Beijing 2019......my bad
Lol every team gets stomped, astralis made CS go boring
Fpx was playing exceptionally well at finals.
Tian was 100% focused and G2 didn't see danger.
Deserved
I watched the Finals live and I personally think that the biggest difference is the Jungle. Jangkos or wtv the spelling of his name got out classed and out jungled the whole series.
“EU got 0:3 in world final again, it is so boring, Riot do something!"
hmmm, how about don't allow lpl and lck come to the worldchampinship,oh since eu team now seems can beat lck so maybe just no lpl? Or just give champinship to an western team so we can stop seeing some shit complaint like this
I just don't get it, you western fans are the one who hype about EU all tourbernent, you are the one who say G2 is the "wolrd best team ", "better version of FPX". And after getting seriously cracked you now saying the game is too suck and boring, I wonder what would you say if G2 got 3:0
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@@mandingoduagi5283 3-0 ez stomp, two time in row nice one EU
This video literally said that 3-0 stomp is boring (it is).
And it said that other teams (EU, KR, NA) need to get better. No one was saying that China were too good so it's boring. The other teams were too bad so it was boring. Wtf is your comment lol.
Valerio Kim I mean, that’s the result of the series, even lpl fans want more than just championship but interesting matches. But what can we or Riot do with it? The 3:0 just mean at that day winner is better team who seize their chance to end game. Before the game start all eu media and fans were hyped about G2 3:0 FPX, if 3:0 is dat bad why not much people stand out and say “no we want a 3:2 final.” Now eu got smashed and eu fans flame around, saying riot should do something to stop a 3:0 final happen again. What a joke. One day if lpl team got 0:3 in world final, we may flame our team player or encourage them do better in next year, but definitely won’t ask Riot do anything to “stop” a “boring game”.
I'm not gonna lie, theScore seem like they are high AF and have no idea what the hell they are talking about from a neutral standpoint. Having 3 3-0 grand finals wasn't even that important, 2017 was the end of the SKT/Korea dynasty and also Faker's "downfall", 2018 was the year of the underdogs with IG and 3 western teams in the top 4, 2019 was the actual RKO from outta nowhere by FPX and perfected matched with the worlds song "Pheonix".
Say what you will but the grand final was hype as hell, both FPX and G2 redefined LOL as a game and took what was "meta" and chucked it into the trashcan with stuff like nautilus mid, pyke mid with tiamat and more. There were plenty of crazy plays made and personally this grand final would definitely fit into my top 3 best worlds grand finals.
Was it a stomp? Yes, Did that make the finals any worse? No
Honestly, this video just seems like a cry about how the west got stomped twice back to back in the grand finals and I would bet a million dollars that if G2 had won 3-0 then this video would be about how this year's worlds was the best worlds ever.
cooljazzftw anyone who enjoys great team play would of enjoyed fpx dismantle g2
you are wrong, the problem is not the 3-0 champions , its the draft . League of legends becoming a draft game and every year is getting worse
Finally a guy that knows what he talks about.
Having a team-response ranking system like the CS majors had awhile ago might fix it; would hopefully create more balanced groups. Yes, this could lead to groups with 2+ teams from the same region, but this could give some cool storylines.
For me the last good final was 2016, but even that lives in the shadow of the amazing ROX vs SKT semifinal. Since 2017 we've just got 3-0 plain finals with an absolute domination by one side that makes you think "how was the other team able to get here?"
"They are clearly a solid team"
That's why i saw a pyke mid and 0/7 toplaner in finals. Made it to finals AGAIN and lost 3-0
And LWX did not die a single time and gingoom only one, because he doesn't care.....
I mean to say they aren't a solid team is a tad stupid ngl. They dominated both splits in EU won msi and reached the finals. But I guess they lost one bo5 all year to the best team in the world so they must suck.
"inconsistent" literally destroyed lpl with only losing one bo3? XD do you even research
Did you see groups? Every analyst on the planet was saying that they were inconsistent AT WORLDS... where it matters.
@@theScore_Colten lol Imagine their first international tournament and being inconsostent in the beginning XDDD
Clearly IG was the 2nd best team in this tournament. They were leading in gold in Game 4 and if TheShy didn't int twice in a row they could have force FPX into Game 5.
Actually they were behind. Their comp was just stronger at that point
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1:25 meme team ??
*LPL first seed and also china's griffin for having a straight 9 wins on spring split with 0 fuckin loss,. yeah right meme team*
yeah. it is a meme team you probably hasn't seen them play 2 jg
The saddest part is that even though this years finals might have felt mega boring, it is still nothing compared to the shitshow from last year.
Well I guess the "real ranking" would be FPX,IG, G2
That's true. At least G2 contested the first game and tried some original stuff. FNC in 2018 just rolled over and died without putting up any resistance or trying anything different whatsoever. It was _embarrassing._