Imagine if they did this in the Olympics: "While we have found no evidence of doping, we found that Usain Bolt ran faster than should be humanly possible. Therefore his run has been disqualified."
lol wanna hear something funny(but not)? This happened. almost exactly. Caster Semenya won the 800 meter track race during the Olympics but was disqualified because she had higher naturally occurring levels of testosterone than the other women. No doping--she was just better.
@@gold15yt94 so what youre saying is that if you have biologically favorable traits then you're not eligible to compete in activities that you're suited for? that makes no sense. gender nuance aside-- if, for example, you take this dude. scientists study his brain and find his neural makeup allows him to process sensory information faster and more precise than others(hypothetical). you'd be saying it's unfair for him to compete against other "normal" people?
Whenever CSGO player moves to another game , his aim is insanely good. Just look at Shroud. He's dominating every game he touch. Fortnite (or whatever game RB6 players previouslly played) players are just not used to such raw skill and its easier to accuse him in cheating. I mean , they've been calling Ropz , Zywoo , s1mple cheaters as well. And ESL fell for it and actually banned S1mple 3+ years ago. ESL admins are actually dumb as fuck if i have to be honest.
@@halpy so your question is This one guy's acting like a dick and you're mad at him This other guy who is known for being a nice person is acting like a dick, would you be mad at him? Nice one
@@atticusgaming.rp.925 a 2 year ban to someone at the height of their career in r6s definitely ruined his chances of acquiring championships, prizes to go along with that.
@@atticusgaming.rp.925 He lost more than he'll ever be able to get back which is not fine at all. Imagine having a good job and bam! Someone accuses you of some bullshit and you get fired and put in jail for two years. You get out and have no money, friends or anything and the best job you can do is a soul crushing minimum wage factory slave job. So no, his career is *not* fine.
@@LordDragox412 Let's not compare a ban to prison time. It definitely sucks that he was treated that way, but he had all the freedom in the world to do anything else he wanted. He wasn't trapped in a living hell for decades.
Well that's exactly what happened to me, it was just a matter of time before the reports on me started to add up, and it would result in me getting a ban.
With a gap of more than 100ms between them. He literally pressed the 4 key 8 times a second. I could easily do that. Anyone could easily do that! EDIT: Some people don't seem to notice the "more than" part of the 100ms statement. I know my math.
It's a no recoil macro that got him caught. But if you look the pro league match against G2 it's clear he had walls. The moss screenshot showed dots where players where. Small dots but there non the less. Than ranked matches after he was already banned from pro league. Notable the Pengu stream. He aced twice against him with all heads hots. Not impossible, but most highly unlikely.
Lakad Matatag yeah, but you still don’t understand how much of a god pengu is. Pengu is used to being one of the best players ever, so if someone happens to be way better than him, it’s kinda sus.
OMDANO nobody is saying that, I’m just saying that since pengu is so clouted for being a “god”, he has that mentality that when someone is better than him, it is kinda sus.
@@commudus6256 They might have lost but that does not mean he did not style on him still lol. Just sounds like he was salty he got bodied and after they won he wanted to say something like a straight lame ass.
@@crimsonszero Tapping a key and clicking a mouse aren't nearly the same. You'd have a better chance saying something along the lines of "Minecraft 1.8 trackpad pvpers" since the trackpad is similar to a key
PHeMoX I mean its part of the tournament’s rules and regulations about not tampering the games system and pretty much he did. He deserves the ban but i’m proud that shiako is back in siege.
What he did after getting banned is truly what a hero does.. he upgraded his skills so much than ever so that he could get them back one day. He may have felt it that day but he has an iron heart and ultimate dedication
Its actually sad, how Pengu ist getting hated here. Everyone can make a mistake and Shaiiko is now unbanned and in Pro League. So don't flame him.. and btw watch Shaiiko's Aim. He one-taped JoyStick. This is conspicuous, isn't it?
The ESL press release said "The deviation from these 120 ms was 4 to 8 ms. By itself, pressing a key at this speed is not inhuman, however pressing a key sequence this many times with such small deviations is impossible."
cian mcaulay Clearly you either don’t know siege or just dumb, you can look at his gameplay. Good wallbangs always listening for even a slight noise to alert him of their position. He’s just mechanically gifted like Bolo said. He would have locked onto heads if aim boting and getting more wallbangs than that if walling. Maybe touch up on your facts first he’s just too good.
in the popular clip if ninja whining abt stream sniping the guy actually was sniping him, his youtube channel had dozens of videos titled "killing ninja on stream" or "killing tim on stream" but there were definitely other clips of him yelling about someone killing him and then dancing on him.
It’s already a huge compliment in ranked when someone calls you out for cheating when you’re not. Pengu basically just called him a god by falsely accusing him of cheating IN PRO LEAGUE.
But he literally said at about the same time that Beaulo is insane. And how many pros have killed Pengu? Loads, how many have been banned for cheating? 1
@Richard McWendy Jordan Samuelson I've never ever watched Rainbow Six esport before in my life, I didn't know any of the players mentioned in the video, and the video clearly shows that several players successfully proved that the anti-cheat software was faulty with input recognition. Where's the 62 IQ logic in here ?
I feel like Pengu's ego got in the way. He thought he was the best and when anyone was better he called hacks with little or no proof, while BDS filed a 19 page report and provided video proof of sequences similar to Shaiikos and how unreliable the software was
well that's not really pengu's fault. He thought he was cheating for whatever reason and reported him, at that point it's all ESL's fault for banning him without actual proof.
Every team in ESL reported shaiiko not just pengu. People just like to blame pengu. The investigation said he was cheating and banned him. So he got banned for a macro not because people thought he was cheating
@@Kazuny thank you, someone with reason. Everybody that's calling pengu a baby is driving me nuts, it's not like anybody else wouldn't do something similar. He thought shaiiko was a little bit sus so he contacted them to maybe look into it when they came back with "banned for cheating" pengu would of been happy because he thought he caught someone red handed and thought he actually was a cheater. Like pengu had nothing to do with that poorly done investigation.
"Im the one who go Shiko banned thats me" - Pengu He like proud of you almost ruined someone's competitive career. It's also just sad in general because someone else was better than him and other people saw that which he couldn'tx stand
Pengu was one of many people who reported shaiiko. He didn’t get him banned ESL and Ubisoft’s investigation got shaiiko banned. They determined that he clicked his 4 key exactly every 120 ms which you can only do if a macro is running clicking it every 120ms. A human isn’t that accurate
@@JakeNBaked osu! players click their keys every 60 ms, doing it without a macro is possible. so it was probably not a cheat, he was just better than pengu so he cried
@@rafaelcoppe5194 it has nothing to do with pengu. Every single team in pro league said they thought shaiiko was cheating. Also he clicked his button the 4 key every 120ms with 1ms difference every time. Humanely impossible to be that accurate. Osu is a bullshit example and those players are not accurate to the millisecond
and maybe the fact that he literally instalocked onto peoples heads to a degree that no other pro in literally any game has ever achieved... .multiple times in multiple matches
@@code01372 ask a semi pro/pro or at least someone who is high elo to watch those clips and they will tell you it's suspicious. is it confirmation he did? no, but i can tell you from multiple years of playing cs/r6, that aim just looks not right, compared to literally any other pro i've seen, it looks like software to me, but take it or leave it, that's my take. those flick insta headshots are literally one frame, i ran it back in VLC super slowmo, (yes i know it's 30 frames) but there is literally zero transition from him starting his aim to where he ends it and shoots with his flicks, that's why i said it looks robotic to me. but to be fair, i will watch a 60fps stream if he still does stream and record some clips of his and analyse it more, on this one video, all i can say is with my experience of this game and in CS, it looks very suspicious to me.
@Richard McWendy Jordan Samuelson I have been playing r6 since beginning and no this videos not misleading, shaiiko and team hoped the evidence provided would be enough but yes idk why they didn't sue, also I think ubi only sponser for r6 content not a select type, the SHAIKO was entirely theesport choice
@Richard McWendy Jordan Samuelson Coming from the non-average rainbow fan, and someone that watched Shaiikos case closely as i was a fan of beGenuis at the time, he did try and offer a rebuttal. ESL didnt hear his case, and they banned him without Shaiiko being able to have a fair response.
@@9Perxent no its not because to enter pl scene is very hard and every team there are the best team and then its just the beginning of the season so its mean nothing. Actually BDS is for sure a god team as they did beat team empire 7-1 (previous world champion before ssg)
"He's obviously wallhacking" "No, he isn't, but he does press his 4 key a lot" "And what does the 4 key do?" "I don't know" "...." "......" "He has to be banned, obvious hacks" "Ok whatever you say"
Pengu thought that he was cheating in e-sport basically Pengus job the thing that he earns his money with of course he didn't like Shaiko what would you say if someone got into an higher position in your job by using a shortcut like stealing the work of others or being the relative of someone in a high position you would be mad too. But it wasn't fact that Shaiko cheated(to 90% he didn't) so Pengu shouldn't have said it like it was a fact.
Alright lets just take a moment and pull ourselves out of our anime story lives and realise that this is not a mob. Theh are running a league and pengu wasn't just calling the shots on banning people because he was about to lose
@Preston , he called the guy a cheater and used a common bug that happens when filed get bunched up like multiple players shooting at the same time , parts start to glitch and if someone is spamming a button it’ll show an very unnatural speed which could look like a macro but if other players had the same thing than that would prove him innocent , that’s why the league let him go early, he was running scrims and practicing , they banned him from league not the game entirely if he was cheating using macros in league he would have been banned entirely
In my first year at college back in 2011, the whole college hostel was connected via lan and wifi so in my first CS match, I wrecked everyone and got a few kills through boxes on aim_Headshot (love that map). The idiots didn't know that you can shoot through stuff on CS and a senior came to my room and changed some bios settings on my motherboard (lol) claiming that "I can't hack anymore"....the very next match I had 36 kills and like 6 deaths.
Tbh most players can't. If you go on CSGO even, if there's someone who just kills you many times, people just go "hacks"... Heck, Houngougnagne is called a hacker so many times when he's just skilled.
Pengu reminds me of Ninja. Whenever ninja gets killed in fortnite, he would rage and report them as stream snipers which then, his community would go on social media and threaten that person or something.
River Peer but his name was never butchered because one of the greatest player with the most influence in the game was being very salty because there is someone better than him so decided along with his team to try to get him banned and then boast about it
@@viego29 I'm just saying, thinking someone is a cheater isn't completely foreign to the siege pros when they come across someone who can body them with such ease. It's a huge problem w siege, and just shows that people a lot of the ppl never even look for proof, they just assume cuz someone can body them they're a cheater
@@riverwashere_ If the game's engine was competent enough to handle everything Ubisoft is trying to have Siege be then there wouldn't be as many problems either. Anvil wasn't made to be a shooter engine, and Ubisoft has done a good job at making it work, but it definitely pales in comparison to how Siege could be on Unreal or iD Tech.
@@riverwashere_ This problem isn't limited to siege, man. It happens in every single FPS game. Pros have such an inflated ego that they can't accept someone "unknown" being better than them, they act like they're the only ones training and trying to get better. You'll frequently see this happening in OW and CS too. Sad to see that people stop relating to other's position when they've reached their "peak".
How is there still ANY stigma around him? He came back and absolutely dominated. He might actually be playing better than before. So what do his accusers have to say now?
He may of cheated prior to the ban. But during the down time of the ban kept working to improve what alleged cheats did for him, making him after it was listed a top tier player
@@stewart0.041 Just saying, everyone else also had time to practice in those years. IN TOURNEYS as well. And if he uses cheats, he must have had a setback to other players, could not have just been as good as these others players, else he wouldnt have cheated. I think the chance of him training himself to this state over 2 years is a strange idea, and i think it is pretty clear that he doesnt cheat. If you watch footage you will also see no difference from when he got banned and just after.
The way they handled the situation is absolute garbage, there was no proof to begin with, where is "the you are innocent until proven guilty." I felt so bad for him. They had proof that the anticheat system is not accurate and many people were recreating the same inputs without cheats, he worked his ass off to prove he was not a cheater, and these people still want to cover their asses saying he was a cheater.
@@lisa_moonless317 its not pengu. Its ESL. Pengu reported but esl is the one that gave the ban. There the only one that you can get for this. And even then i think your gonne have a hard time winning. I think a judge cant see what esl did was wrong, sins they did follow there own made rules.
@thaiwood, Pengu is the biotch , guy couldn’t take losing to the better player and called him a cheater , Players who call the game bad or call players cheaters are the ones who can’t accept taking a loss and looking at what they can do to improve , if you could check shaiikos time played compared to Pengus you’d see the major difference in overall ambition, Shaiiko plays off instinct and Aggro , most players have the same habits and same routines as other players , easy to see it the more your in a game , Pros react the same way as noobs only difference is reaction time and ability to see signs and change what your about to do so you can set yourself up better , all shaiikos plays were less than 50 percent of his body showing majority of the time , while majority of his fights he took his enemies bodies were 60-78 percent in the same spot or showing , also being called a cheater is the best compliment a Pro player can give another pro player if the player isn’t cheating and it’s proven the player isn’t cheating
@@thaiwood7528 I can just talk from a CS point of view: Since 1.6, CSS, CSGO a lot of the pros used and are still using cheats in their mice. They can use their own mouse at the tournament and the driver or whatever is build into the mouse installs the cheat.. the AC checks for those drivers but there are many flaws and loopholes. They just have to connect the mouse and they are good to go e.g. with an aimkey on mouse4 or a subtle aimassistance while firing weapons with mouse1
William Dubois its not like he planted that code dude he only said that they should check him out and when they did they found what they found. If that code is legit or not he couldn t know but you would assume that in this situation.
That's based off stats, hence why all of the players are flex/draggers. Not taking anything from the guy but he's played much worse since his ban. Would you say he's better than Canadian or Pengu who have won more?
@@jasonterry8719 G2 choked at the most recent EU major, just like canadian did when he was on eg. Pengu may have won more but that doesnt mean jack shit, if it did im sure G2 wouldnt have choked the massive lead they had.
@@LilPeroxideJr. So winning 2 world titles means jack shit? Choking events doesn't make you bad. BDS have a major, which is debatable considering it's regional and they were saved by a losers bracket. You learn more by losing than winning. G2 didn't think they had to change playstyle while BDS knew they had to. That's why NiP came within 4 rounds of winning invite. They changed how they played however they ran out of steam at the last minute.
@@LilPeroxideJr. they have chemestry problem they dont have someone loke fabian anymore and they have to adapt, also many good play dont win, never heard " a king without a crown?
@@jasonterry8719 of course and he is better than pengu .No hate to pengu as he is considered one of the goats but he is washed now and he even knows it.G2 is a last cause .They will choke again in Sl
I never thought he cheated. Look at how beaulo was called out a cheater before he streamed. ppl are just one of a kind{shaiiko,beaulo,kanto,spoit} but others just get salty and call them cheaters..its really sad
You can not compare Spoit to actual pro league players lol he all aim no brain and he’s a ranked star nowhere near the skill or iq needed for pro league
@@LordDragox412 he could sue them I think, false accusations if they have proof of the anti cheat system being not accurate and the game developers not giving him the right to defend himself.
Imagine being so good at "something" so that "something" decides you are to good at it so you are disqualified for participating in that "something". I cant imagine the pain he must have had when he got the notice...
Pengu gets rekt Pengu: MOOOOOOOOMMMMYYYYYYY!!!!!!! ESL: yes son Pengu: This guy destoyed me. My ego is too high to accept that I lost. Get him banned mommy ESL: Ofcourse my son, anything for you. *Shaiiko gets banned*
@@prodigioso6779 Penta won, yes, and that makes this act looking much more like a kid crying over to their mommy.. They already won but he was so full of himself that he cannot be admit someone is playing better than him.. so he reported bullshits that led to someone's career being tarnished for the rest of his life.. without proper evidence and not to mention there are good counter evidence to the allegations, they still banned shaiko.. so who's the clueless fanboy here now.?
Some people might say that Joystick uses aimbot, but no. HE IS the aimbot, so yes i agree with your statement, it's just mechanically implanted to his body. Same goes for Shaiiko.
Shaiiko seems genuinely hurt by whole ordeal because he's always claimed his innocence and he hasn't stopped playing like that madman on Begenius to this day.
@@csm235 lmao stop being delusional, shaiiko isnt overrated as he is currently rated as the siege best player (esl) and he did hold a record of kills in pl. watch any of his pl match and you'll see
tristan louvart he can even get 35 kills per game , if his team ain’t winning any minors or majors, it’s not worth anything. And Pengu played less rounds in his kill record
I dunno, Pengu seems to have mellowed out since, And more often than not he'll be willing to talk about things logically. I'd be quicker to point at ESL than Pengu for harming Shaiko's career. Like they found one line of code that looked like a macro, And immediately banned. That's not on pengu, from what was said in the video pengu was told by other players that Shaiko had more information than he should of had, and then some of those shots in the clips? You'd be inclined to think they're sus. Pengu was hot headed a few years ago, Definitely, He even got warned that his career could go to shit if he didnt tone things back and he did. I don't think he's a bad dude, definitely not anymore atleast, I think he was just vocal about suspicions and concerns raised by other players, and then Shaiko got fucked by coincidence that something was wrong with Moss. The ESL jumped the gun big time, If you suspect but cant confirm anything, just give them a game to protect or defend themselves. Hell do it at lan. If I was in Shaiko's shoes I'd be much more annoyed at ESL than Pengu.
I don't even play fps games but looking at some of the clips in this video the dude plays like he is composing a piece of art just like mozart or Beethoven
Really, the reason people think he was cheating in the first place was because of his ungodly sixth sense for wallbangs. Same reason why people thought Joystick was a cheater. But upon not finding any evidence of wallhacks in the MOSS file Pengu decided to report him for macros instead because he was just salty.
Happened to ZywOo aswell, also a new french prodigy. Enters the competitve scene at 18yo after prioitizing school and is now gunning for #1 rank in the world in his first competitive year. Even some pros, including renamed french AWPer kennyS suspected him of cheating cuz he is so flawless, smart and nutty.
ill let you in on a secret, all "pros" cheat. aim lock all day. its so obvious to real gamers. if they are jealous, its because his cheats are better than theirs
GoblinPhreak I love how people in these comments think pros are flawless people who wouldn’t use silent cheats when money is on the line despite the countless prices of evidence
or you just watch the gameplay and see him litterally using aimbot. or stay braindead. whatever. fact remains the guy is using an obvious aimbot. still baffles me how oblivious most gamersare .
Jared Frazier nice. Using a baseless insult about something completely irrelevant rather than countering my argument. I’m not saying shaiiko was cheating, nor am I saying he is bad, I’m just saying that shaiiko knows just how to play against NA, and also that just because he is a beast now doesn’t mean he never cheated.
I've only watched Pengu a few times and he literally says something is sus every game I've watched him play. He reminds me of the old ninja, always complaining.
@@jellocook because if he wasn't scared of this guy he wouldn't have won any of the 3 he won that year he was banned. Also after the first time you become much less creditable. Ever hear of the boy who called wolf?
If I was Shaiiko and I got to play against Pengu, I would literally hunt him down and tbag him on the spot for like a good solid 30 seconds or until I get headshot by someone.
@@Maccaroney i never said pengu was being toxic i prefer shaiko what im indicating is that hunting someone down the whole match is also toxic also pengu is a huge name so he would make a lame excuse and get shaiko baneed from pro leugue for another 2 years
@@benjaminbarr8714 And? Did you not watch the video lol its very clear he never manipulated the game. Regardless of anything else, he's just as good in other games and he still plays siege to this day, playing the exact same way. Very clear none of this would be the case if he's hacking.
Your right , man got screwed over and they realized he wasn’t cheating and shortened his ban , being called a cheater as a pro player is the greatest compliment someone can give you as a gamer but being screwed like that is ass
@@dilute6715 Still never confirmed, and the only person who genuinely thought so was Pengu, and anyone that does better than him is cheating, according to Pengu.
this man didn't stop after the entire R6 community shamed him. he kept practicing and improving.
that's determination in all its glory.
Lol when you know you got true skills why surrender?
He’s gonna be the seige hokage
WelcomeTo Life you will be suprised by how much people would stop
@@ItachiUchiha-ck6hi if u know ur good and true, u won't stop
@@ItachiUchiha-ck6hi but ye true
Imagine if they did this in the Olympics:
"While we have found no evidence of doping, we found that Usain Bolt ran faster than should be humanly possible. Therefore his run has been disqualified."
“On top of that, Andre De Grasse, the rival of Usain Bolt claimed that Usain’s run was impossible even for him”
It had nothing to do with the fact he did it really fast. It was the consistency that he pressed it.
lol wanna hear something funny(but not)? This happened. almost exactly. Caster Semenya won the 800 meter track race during the Olympics but was disqualified because she had higher naturally occurring levels of testosterone than the other women. No doping--she was just better.
Patrick Wheeler no. She’s almost a man. So it’s unfair on other women.
@@gold15yt94 so what youre saying is that if you have biologically favorable traits then you're not eligible to compete in activities that you're suited for? that makes no sense. gender nuance aside-- if, for example, you take this dude. scientists study his brain and find his neural makeup allows him to process sensory information faster and more precise than others(hypothetical). you'd be saying it's unfair for him to compete against other "normal" people?
Being "so good they think you're cheating" taken to the professional scene, holy shit.
Just how good do you have to be?
Well.. you ever watched him?.. xD
Ask the two Overwatch pro players that Geguri retired when they said she couldn't possibly have that kind of skill with Zarya.
Ramza Beoulves Just how good would he have been if he didnt get banned
Whenever CSGO player moves to another game , his aim is insanely good. Just look at Shroud. He's dominating every game he touch. Fortnite (or whatever game RB6 players previouslly played) players are just not used to such raw skill and its easier to accuse him in cheating. I mean , they've been calling Ropz , Zywoo , s1mple cheaters as well. And ESL fell for it and actually banned S1mple 3+ years ago. ESL admins are actually dumb as fuck if i have to be honest.
@@3ildcard i thought esl banned s1mple for being toxic?
“I wrecked him , he cried , he called ESL I got banned”
So true
LOL pengu fuckwit
But at the same time, if someone else, let’s say Liven reported him, would you be mad at him?
@@halpy so your question is
This one guy's acting like a dick and you're mad at him
This other guy who is known for being a nice person is acting like a dick, would you be mad at him? Nice one
Seen this comment 100000000 times
"I wrecked him, he cried, he called ESL, and I got banned"
He came back and wanted blood. He got something more
well you see penta won that match against begenius
sKeiT
One player alone can’t handle a fucking full team of professionals.
@@jellocook its a 5 man vs 1 player alone . what would u expect ?
@@acxryl-4340 yea you dont know how the game works
Shaiiko should spam 4 in the chat every time he kills Pengu in pro league.
TRUE!
It would be so fun
lol he should
😂😂😂
AHAHAHAHAHA YESSS
Imagine being banned because you were better than everyone there was.
I get kicked from the match 🤣
That's an honor, being so good that everyone thinks you're hacking
imagine being better
@@the_real_therapist lol I play mobile shooting games (cuz my parents wouldn't get me a pc) and I'm so good at it ppl would call me a hacker lol
Reminds me to the Minecraft player TechnoBlade, lol
2017: Banned
2020: EU Major champion beating G2 in the grand finals
In 3 map reverse sweep aswell!!!
Where I can found the matches?
@@juanes2560 Rainbow Six Esports for full matches or SiegeGG for highlights
Now i have faith in patient
2021: g2 Beats bds in eu grand Finals
Instead of admitting there might a bug in their software they ruin a kid’s career smh
Well they put a 2 year ban and also he is back so his career is fine right now back then it was a different story
@@atticusgaming.rp.925 a 2 year ban to someone at the height of their career in r6s definitely ruined his chances of acquiring championships, prizes to go along with that.
Pengu is to blame fosure so butthurted that he used his name to ban another player wrongfully
@@atticusgaming.rp.925 He lost more than he'll ever be able to get back which is not fine at all. Imagine having a good job and bam! Someone accuses you of some bullshit and you get fired and put in jail for two years. You get out and have no money, friends or anything and the best job you can do is a soul crushing minimum wage factory slave job. So no, his career is *not* fine.
@@LordDragox412 Let's not compare a ban to prison time. It definitely sucks that he was treated that way, but he had all the freedom in the world to do anything else he wanted. He wasn't trapped in a living hell for decades.
Playing so well you get banned for hacking, now that's an achievement
i literally dream of that
Well that's exactly what happened to me, it was just a matter of time before the reports on me started to add up, and it would result in me getting a ban.
I would finnaly get something that I like called respect
@@Just-mo6uh *laughs in aimbot* xd
I was always skeptical of him being a "hacker", things didn't add up. Glad he is back preforming well.
The only reason for ban: spams key 4 with ALMOST perfect intervals. That is more than possible to do without macros.
With a gap of more than 100ms between them. He literally pressed the 4 key 8 times a second. I could easily do that. Anyone could easily do that!
EDIT: Some people don't seem to notice the "more than" part of the 100ms statement. I know my math.
I'm not a pc player sadly mine is bad but are you saying pengu got salty?
CzechUrSelf539 5 that’s basically what happened cause shaiko is literally bolo x100
@@ibladeking5691 alright thanks man tbh I never liked pengu I think he's full of himself
It's a no recoil macro that got him caught.
But if you look the pro league match against G2 it's clear he had walls. The moss screenshot showed dots where players where. Small dots but there non the less.
Than ranked matches after he was already banned from pro league. Notable the Pengu stream. He aced twice against him with all heads hots. Not impossible, but most highly unlikely.
"Everyone below me is a noob, everyone better than me is hacking."
Lakad Matatag yeah, but you still don’t understand how much of a god pengu is. Pengu is used to being one of the best players ever, so if someone happens to be way better than him, it’s kinda sus.
@@uncleterry9179 yeah but hes still a player not a eternal crowned king there is someone who is better than him
@@ileryon4019 no u
OMDANO nobody is saying that, I’m just saying that since pengu is so clouted for being a “god”, he has that mentality that when someone is better than him, it is kinda sus.
@@uncleterry9179 ok so his ego is bigger than jake pauls cause of his fans jacking him off that he thinks hes an eternal beast?
4:54 "I wrecked him, he cried, he called ESL and I got banned" LOL
FACTS!
That's why BeGenius lost their match against Penta and than got banned ^^
@@commudus6256 They might have lost but that does not mean he did not style on him still lol. Just sounds like he was salty he got bodied and after they won he wanted to say something like a straight lame ass.
To be fair Shaiiko went off big time in match, especially in Chalet.
@@commudus6256 doesn't change the fact that shaiiko was the best player in that match.
imagine if he spammed 4 in chat after he beat pengu for the 2nd time
YOU ARE A GENIUS
That woulda been sooooo bm
holy fuck that would be super SUPER NICE
@KiloB24 bad manner ( the stuff you do to disrespect the enemy)
@@kaanucar3422 bad mouth*
4:21 120ms means ~8 times per second. thats not really even close to being an "inhuman speed"
exactly there's people that play minecraft that get 22 cps idk why 8 cps is close to "inhuman speed"
How is that inhuman speed? I tried it and I got 11 per second (not flexing btw)
@@crimsonszero Tapping a key and clicking a mouse aren't nearly the same. You'd have a better chance saying something along the lines of "Minecraft 1.8 trackpad pvpers" since the trackpad is similar to a key
It isn’t about being too fast, it’s that the key clicks were inhumanly regular
@@crimsonszero they get 22 cps by using double clicks which are only a thing on mouses
lol why would he need a recoil macro if the dude just one taps everybody.
fking true
It's what happens when the people involved don't understand a thing about what's going on. I'd say he did not cheat.
PHeMoX I mean its part of the tournament’s rules and regulations about not tampering the games system and pretty much he did. He deserves the ban but i’m proud that shiako is back in siege.
James Dam but he didn’t break the rules as he had proved it after he was banned
"He had too much info" implying he used Esp or walls but yet say he was macroing his gun play.
Pengus a moron.
"Shaiiko is literally like the John Wick of Siege"
"...man"
Daniel Santos “Beaulo?”
@@subswithnovideos-ej9jf ????
TGS Nicholas No Rambo
@Derek Ly and Logic!
"You Banned him?"
"What? He was just a random Frenchman"
"That random Frenchman, Was JOHN WICK"
*Jean wick
@@IncitedCG *Jean Ouic
BANNED WEAK
No
John quick
“Spamming a key too fast”
Minecraft PvP pros with 20 clicks per second: allow us to introduce ourselves
"pros" yeah right
@@GloomDev ?
@@minimin2372 Wow
One of my best friends has a 60 cps on every key on the board, and he is disgusted by every way of cheating.
2017: Banned
2020: EU Major champion beating G2 in the grand finals
Shaiiko: *banned for being too good*
*2 years later*
Shaiiko: *ban this you filthy casual*
@@icrashedyourcar328 i don't think you got the joke.
@@levaughn9742 i got the joke. Im just correcting it to the correct terminology.
Chicken Nugget Nah you completely missed it, it shows
Chicken Nugget but if you correct the terminology than it removes the joke?
technobladeee
"I wrecked him, he cried, he called ESL and I got banned." LUL
f3wny time stamp?
@@erikvega5431 4:53
Why do you copy other comments?
@@jonahs.9707 They aren't they are just commenting the part they liked the most.
@@CountDraccula ... and thats copying
Pengu: “He probably had wall hacks or something like that.”
Shaiiko: *Gets banned for supposed macro use*
Yeah that's what bugs me. pengu thinks he was using walls, so then got him banned for something else? Doesn't make sense
@@YT7mcsupposedly faulty report program get him banned, then said report program is patched.
So idk how to even response that epic story.
Why he need macro with his Aim And movment why macro
@@ΖΖΗΗ he not. The program patched later cuZ its faulty
@@ΖΖΗΗ Macros can be used to reduce recoil to basically nothing. Laser accuracy
What he did after getting banned is truly what a hero does.. he upgraded his skills so much than ever so that he could get them back one day. He may have felt it that day but he has an iron heart and ultimate dedication
Tbh im not surprised at what happened. He spent 1.5rs practicing with revenge as motivation, he ensure he would be a god qhen he returned lol
**Shaiiko gets unbanned**
Pengu: ah sh*t here we go again
On the tweet there was the meme
Shaiiko: gets unbanned
Pengu: my time has come
That is just some dead shit
U have 666 likes
Bro he has came back and recently he hasn't rly been dominating showing fragging isn't the way to win
Pengu is just salty to everyone who is better than him
SweetRevenge09 this is indeed, facts
SweetRevenge09 highly agree
@Richard McWendy Jordan Samuelson Wtf xD didnt the video explicitly show a stream clip where pengu boasts about being "the guy that got him banned" ?
Richard McWendy Jordan Samuelson Pengu’s boasting that he got the guy banned
@Richard McWendy Jordan Samuelson 6:32
Pengu: gets killed
Also Pengu: so you have chosen... ban
Its actually sad, how Pengu ist getting hated here.
Everyone can make a mistake and Shaiiko is now unbanned and in Pro League. So don't flame him.. and btw watch Shaiiko's Aim. He one-taped JoyStick. This is conspicuous, isn't it?
@@Busfahrer2023 oh stfu
@@AZ-iu5fe He's Just a really good player, anyone would be confused at looking at shaiiko's aim if he was cheating or not.
@@Busfahrer2023 He's just good that's it
He didnt ban Joystick couse he is in the Russian Mafia
He only pressed 4, 8 times per second, get this, the average clicks per second a pro has is 13...
i expected it to be like 20 or some shit they said not humanly possible but no just 8 per sec that's so fucking dumb
Shit, I'm a silver player in siege and I can press that same key 4-5 times per second, and my keyboard is very bad.
After some testing in a match, as a hibana, and 4 set as my skill, I pressed it 6 times a second on average.
@@eternal631 I ain't gonna lie I don't know shit about r6 but for 8 clicks a sec and when he is pro thats stupid regardless of the game
The ESL press release said "The deviation from these 120 ms was 4 to 8 ms.
By itself, pressing a key at this speed is not inhuman, however pressing a key sequence this many times with such small deviations is impossible."
Pengu was just too high on his own ego to admit someone is better than him.
People are better than him but shaiiko cheated
cian mcaulay that is false
cian mcaulay did you even watch the video
cian mcaulay Clearly you either don’t know siege or just dumb, you can look at his gameplay. Good wallbangs always listening for even a slight noise to alert him of their position. He’s just mechanically gifted like Bolo said. He would have locked onto heads if aim boting and getting more wallbangs than that if walling. Maybe touch up on your facts first he’s just too good.
@@ripley_10mo nah he cheated
Pengu reminds me of ninja when he got “stream sniped”
lol now that u mention it lol its basically the same haha
I was just thinking of this
Pengu is like ninja accusing other players stream snipers
Facccccccks lmao
in the popular clip if ninja whining abt stream sniping the guy actually was sniping him, his youtube channel had dozens of videos titled "killing ninja on stream" or "killing tim on stream" but there were definitely other clips of him yelling about someone killing him and then dancing on him.
It’s already a huge compliment in ranked when someone calls you out for cheating when you’re not. Pengu basically just called him a god by falsely accusing him of cheating IN PRO LEAGUE.
Imagine being so good that you get called cheating at a pro level
not a thing, he cheated
@@sparklefartzpwntwell he didn't 😂keep coping
@@kamuinincompoop3057 we all know he did. stop.
Pengu is literally that guy that spams "hacks" like a 16 year old everytime he dies
he killed me he has to be cheating
16 year old? More like 13 year old
Thats kinggeorge
@@icrashedyourcar328 king george is trolling 90% of the time though, Pengu is just the equivalent of a salty 4th grader
But he literally said at about the same time that Beaulo is insane. And how many pros have killed Pengu? Loads, how many have been banned for cheating? 1
ESL: By itself, pressing a key at this speed with such small deviations is impossible
osu! players: Allow us to introduce ourselves
lmfaooo
gayzmcgee and freddie benson:
Pathetic.
Hexerade.E6 haha this is so fucking true
Bruh true asf
With osu! Players they would have clicked instead of a 120 millisecond interval to a 60 milisecond interval
As a software tester myself : do NOT trust software when someone's career is on the line
@Richard McWendy Jordan Samuelson idiot
@Richard McWendy Jordan Samuelson He software tester, Me software Hacker... And you know better than us how software works?...... Great!
@Richard McWendy Jordan Samuelson I've never ever watched Rainbow Six esport before in my life, I didn't know any of the players mentioned in the video, and the video clearly shows that several players successfully proved that the anti-cheat software was faulty with input recognition. Where's the 62 IQ logic in here ?
@Richard McWendy Jordan Samuelson friends being banned for cheating doesn't mean he was.
@@Jason-qh2nw lol he said that like its an evidence haha
He can't control what his friend do
I feel like Pengu's ego got in the way. He thought he was the best and when anyone was better he called hacks with little or no proof, while BDS filed a 19 page report and provided video proof of sequences similar to Shaiikos and how unreliable the software was
well that's not really pengu's fault. He thought he was cheating for whatever reason and reported him, at that point it's all ESL's fault for banning him without actual proof.
Every team in ESL reported shaiiko not just pengu. People just like to blame pengu. The investigation said he was cheating and banned him. So he got banned for a macro not because people thought he was cheating
@@JakeNBaked Pengu is a whiny crybaby.
@@Kazuny thank you, someone with reason. Everybody that's calling pengu a baby is driving me nuts, it's not like anybody else wouldn't do something similar. He thought shaiiko was a little bit sus so he contacted them to maybe look into it when they came back with "banned for cheating" pengu would of been happy because he thought he caught someone red handed and thought he actually was a cheater. Like pengu had nothing to do with that poorly done investigation.
@@chucklesdeclown8819 he was just mad he ain’t the best
This is the literal definition of,
"He has a good gaming chair"
He has better RGB lights
@@cat3rd130 He definitely has a watercooler
Nah i think it is the mousepad
he has gaming S O C C
He *is* the gaming chair
Pressing the "4" key at an inhuman speed
Osu players: am i a joke to you?
Faustian xd
Relatable lmao
O2Jam, before Osu!.
@@Dystxnn ok boomer
@@tacombustiona2663 cool story, boomer.
The way ESL handled it was really unfair, a shame to see something like that happen.
"Im the one who go Shiko banned thats me" - Pengu He like proud of you almost ruined someone's competitive career. It's also just sad in general because someone else was better than him and other people saw that which he couldn'tx stand
Karen like behavior smfh
Pengu was one of many people who reported shaiiko. He didn’t get him banned ESL and Ubisoft’s investigation got shaiiko banned. They determined that he clicked his 4 key exactly every 120 ms which you can only do if a macro is running clicking it every 120ms. A human isn’t that accurate
@@JakeNBaked osu! players click their keys every 60 ms, doing it without a macro is possible. so it was probably not a cheat, he was just better than pengu so he cried
@@rafaelcoppe5194 it has nothing to do with pengu. Every single team in pro league said they thought shaiiko was cheating. Also he clicked his button the 4 key every 120ms with 1ms difference every time. Humanely impossible to be that accurate. Osu is a bullshit example and those players are not accurate to the millisecond
@@JakeNBaked tell me you didn't fully watch the video but not telling me you didn't fully watch the video
"spamming his 4 key at an allegedly inhuman speed"
welcome to osu!
*C L I C K T H E C I R C L E S*
gayzmcgee and other high bpm players smh these plebs dont know true speed
20 keys in a second
gayz inhuman speed irl
300bpm streams monkaW
Pengu seems like that rich kid who always makes his parents do whatever he wants them to do.
Yikes
Sounds like Fortnite God Ninja
Actually Pengu was raised without a father.
nisanosa It's a joke btw
@@nisanosa 1 its a joke 2 its a simile lmao
Damn hearing him say he’ll beat them in Lan that’s some hard shit right there
and then him actually delivering on his promise is even more hard shit
Summary: Every player called him a hacker because he knows how to wallbang accurately because he pays attention to rooms
and maybe the fact that he literally instalocked onto peoples heads to a degree that no other pro in literally any game has ever achieved... .multiple times in multiple matches
@@ChristopherGray00 Crosshair placement and knowing what the headlevel of ppl is gonna be
whats funny is these days, you will find these types of players in even QM lobbies. and they are completely normal.
@@ChristopherGray00 i guess Beaulo is cheating as well..
@@code01372 ask a semi pro/pro or at least someone who is high elo to watch those clips and they will tell you it's suspicious.
is it confirmation he did? no, but i can tell you from multiple years of playing cs/r6, that aim just looks not right, compared to literally any other pro i've seen, it looks like software to me, but take it or leave it, that's my take.
those flick insta headshots are literally one frame, i ran it back in VLC super slowmo, (yes i know it's 30 frames) but there is literally zero transition from him starting his aim to where he ends it and shoots with his flicks, that's why i said it looks robotic to me.
but to be fair, i will watch a 60fps stream if he still does stream and record some clips of his and analyse it more, on this one video, all i can say is with my experience of this game and in CS, it looks very suspicious to me.
"Esports Ready" doesn't give a team and player time to defend themselves
Oh come on why'd you have to put the ace pfp now I'm sad
Wasn't it ESL's fault, not ubi?
@@who9236 both, Ubi could have forced esl to review the case but they didn't. It's more of esl's fault tho
@Richard McWendy Jordan Samuelson I have been playing r6 since beginning and no this videos not misleading, shaiiko and team hoped the evidence provided would be enough but yes idk why they didn't sue, also I think ubi only sponser for r6 content not a select type, the SHAIKO was entirely theesport choice
@Richard McWendy Jordan Samuelson Coming from the non-average rainbow fan, and someone that watched Shaiikos case closely as i was a fan of beGenuis at the time, he did try and offer a rebuttal. ESL didnt hear his case, and they banned him without Shaiiko being able to have a fair response.
Imagine being a literal human aimbot/prediction master, then getting banned for spamming a key
Mattdogwoods32 Mattdog52 imagine cheating and using a macro and getting banned
cian mcaulay he didn’t cheat tho, literally 0 proof
Laugh in shroud
pURE Mbappe born
MOSS is unreliable. There is a chance he was hacking, but again, MOSS has shown to not get things 100% right.
@@rafizhafran6200 shroud is not that good
he recieved the highest possible title for gamers. banned for being too good.. from pro play.
That’s why his team is 8th in pro league lmao
@@csm235 Can't tell if thats bad or good ima assume that its bad
@@9Perxent no its not because to enter pl scene is very hard and every team there are the best team and then its just the beginning of the season so its mean nothing. Actually BDS is for sure a god team as they did beat team empire 7-1 (previous world champion before ssg)
@@aogya2ods902 Ok now i know thx bru
@@csm235 that's why he dropped 14 kills on g2 last night
"He's obviously wallhacking"
"No, he isn't, but he does press his 4 key a lot"
"And what does the 4 key do?"
"I don't know"
"...."
"......"
"He has to be banned, obvious hacks"
"Ok whatever you say"
yeah, pengu should get banned for banned shaiiko for no reason
Is 4 key was his primary gadget and he was spamming it
@@destiny1171 when will somebody understand that pengu isnt the anticheat?
Alberto Mattiussi he tried he's best to ban him by his behaviour reporting and messaging devs "srry for my grammar, i m bad at english "
they thought it was recoil control. thats what i heard atleast
Pengu is just a coward scared of someone who's clearly better than him.
that's his legacy. that's how gamers will remember him. "Pengu the fool, Pengu the Coward"
💯
Pengu always tries to be the good guy... I don’t dislike him but I feel like he is slowly turning into the Ninja of Rainbow Six
Pengu taking pride in being the “one” who banned him. Disgusting.
Pengu thought that he was cheating in e-sport basically Pengus job the thing that he earns his money with of course he didn't like Shaiko what would you say if someone got into an higher position in your job by using a shortcut like stealing the work of others or being the relative of someone in a high position you would be mad too. But it wasn't fact that Shaiko cheated(to 90% he didn't) so Pengu shouldn't have said it like it was a fact.
Alright lets just take a moment and pull ourselves out of our anime story lives and realise that this is not a mob. Theh are running a league and pengu wasn't just calling the shots on banning people because he was about to lose
@@tgb1005 abloo bloo
@Preston , he called the guy a cheater and used a common bug that happens when filed get bunched up like multiple players shooting at the same time , parts start to glitch and if someone is spamming a button it’ll show an very unnatural speed which could look like a macro but if other players had the same thing than that would prove him innocent , that’s why the league let him go early, he was running scrims and practicing , they banned him from league not the game entirely if he was cheating using macros in league he would have been banned entirely
@@FnXSLADER i cant understand why proleague match dont use their own pc.
Pengu: * having a good time *
Pengu: * sees someone better than him *
Pengu: BAN IT IS
😂😂😂😂
Ninja 2.0
@Rafe Scaggs bro he thinks he is a God, he is just a normal player . Like I swear he is nothing comparing to bealou .
Im not a pengu fan but u acting like he banned him
@Rafe Scaggs he reported but ubi gave the ban. Are you stupid?
In my first year at college back in 2011, the whole college hostel was connected via lan and wifi so in my first CS match, I wrecked everyone and got a few kills through boxes on aim_Headshot (love that map). The idiots didn't know that you can shoot through stuff on CS and a senior came to my room and changed some bios settings on my motherboard (lol) claiming that "I can't hack anymore"....the very next match I had 36 kills and like 6 deaths.
Fk
get rekt
"You'll know you're strong, when everyone is targeting you" - Koro Sensei. This is what it feels like to be the greatest.
So your the greatest when you rage back with a spin bot in a game and everyone calls you out? Doubt.
Car Soup 🥱
@vMoxin so sad
I watched the anime one week ago. Why you gotta make me cry again ;-;
@car soup, dude I don’t even play Mouse in keyboard but I have had that same macro issue before
Shaiiko: *plays better than Pengu
Pengu: hE's cHeAtiNg
Pengu really just can't admit that there's someone better than him.
That's legit what happens on xbox live all the time
Tbh most players can't. If you go on CSGO even, if there's someone who just kills you many times, people just go "hacks"... Heck, Houngougnagne is called a hacker so many times when he's just skilled.
*Shaiko recks him in a LAN*
*Pengu : 444444444*
Pro league doesnt ban anyone based off doubts...
they found him spamming 4 way faster than human limitations... AKA Macros. which is cheating.
@@dom9092 ok but why would he use a makro on his eq
Pengu reminds me of Ninja. Whenever ninja gets killed in fortnite, he would rage and report them as stream snipers which then, his community would go on social media and threaten that person or something.
Pengu is Tfue of siege. Period
@@jaredsiew8413 and that means he is not even top 100? LFMAOAO pengu is average for a pro and tfue sucks actually nowdays
Teh Modest Mouse bruh what u mean ninja was nasty at halo and was actually ranked #1 in halo 5 for a long period of time
@@christianwaters3437 Sounds like excuses my guy, and the whining of a ninja fanboy.
Christian Waters rank 1 in the halo no one played
Pengu is just salty that he didn’t have as good of a chair..
Pengu needs to invest in a gaming rug
Lmao
Chairs don't mean shit, I hit diamond on a bed.
Pengu cant handle being beated pengu is jealous
What’s funny is that Shaiiko sits on the edge of his chair & leans his neck like some weird animal lmfao
0:48 “what we do know is that he’s back and he’s nuttier than ever”
You can say that again
GW醬油 Thought it was a pun about NNN
ament to that
The moment this guy started talking about Pengu, I instantly started to dislike Pengu.
I've never liked Pengu he just cries so much no matter what and his streams are too boring imo
Same
@@jdgames3652 i think youre looking at king george, not pengu
@@icrashedyourcar328 nah, he is definitely talking about Pengu
@@icrashedyourcar328 Pengu to a lesser degree
I mean... Everyone thought Beaulo was a cheater at first too...
But I mean this is through the roof
River Peer but his name was never butchered because one of the greatest player with the most influence in the game was being very salty because there is someone better than him so decided along with his team to try to get him banned and then boast about it
@@viego29 I'm just saying, thinking someone is a cheater isn't completely foreign to the siege pros when they come across someone who can body them with such ease. It's a huge problem w siege, and just shows that people a lot of the ppl never even look for proof, they just assume cuz someone can body them they're a cheater
@@riverwashere_ If the game's engine was competent enough to handle everything Ubisoft is trying to have Siege be then there wouldn't be as many problems either. Anvil wasn't made to be a shooter engine, and Ubisoft has done a good job at making it work, but it definitely pales in comparison to how Siege could be on Unreal or iD Tech.
@@riverwashere_ This problem isn't limited to siege, man. It happens in every single FPS game. Pros have such an inflated ego that they can't accept someone "unknown" being better than them, they act like they're the only ones training and trying to get better. You'll frequently see this happening in OW and CS too. Sad to see that people stop relating to other's position when they've reached their "peak".
Love how after he comes back and destroys pengu, pengu finally admits hes just good
He is the one who can say: "you stole my childhood"
ok boomer.
"You took everything from me"
@@1312summer I dont even know you
How dahe you
@@phantomdragon4507 You will
How is there still ANY stigma around him? He came back and absolutely dominated. He might actually be playing better than before. So what do his accusers have to say now?
He may of cheated prior to the ban. But during the down time of the ban kept working to improve what alleged cheats did for him, making him after it was listed a top tier player
We need that clip of Chillindude going "My B" after getting 5-0'd
@@stewart0.041 he got his team removed from proleague, that's kinda a big deal
@@stewart0.041 Just saying, everyone else also had time to practice in those years. IN TOURNEYS as well. And if he uses cheats, he must have had a setback to other players, could not have just been as good as these others players, else he wouldnt have cheated. I think the chance of him training himself to this state over 2 years is a strange idea, and i think it is pretty clear that he doesnt cheat. If you watch footage you will also see no difference from when he got banned and just after.
The way they handled the situation is absolute garbage, there was no proof to begin with, where is "the you are innocent until proven guilty." I felt so bad for him. They had proof that the anticheat system is not accurate and many people were recreating the same inputs without cheats, he worked his ass off to prove he was not a cheater, and these people still want to cover their asses saying he was a cheater.
Damn if innocent the poor guy lost earnings over this. I would be so salty if I was him.
2 years od money as a proffesional player is a LOOT of money, he lost very much on this. he should have sued pengu for damage.
@@lisa_moonless317 its not pengu. Its ESL. Pengu reported but esl is the one that gave the ban. There the only one that you can get for this. And even then i think your gonne have a hard time winning. I think a judge cant see what esl did was wrong, sins they did follow there own made rules.
Pengu: I'm the best there ever is or was!
Shaiiko: "Allow me to introduc-"
Pengu: "HACKS"
😂😂😂
Pengu is such a crybaby
Pengu is the most beta male I’ve ever seen.
+1
Trilleman 💯
True lulw
Glad Empire has humbled him now.
Zucc4 vbuck ow yea yea
Pengu acts like a 12 year old in a game of counter strike
*If someone is better than you he must be a cheater*
Luiskari hes a botch
@thaiwood, Pengu is the biotch , guy couldn’t take losing to the better player and called him a cheater , Players who call the game bad or call players cheaters are the ones who can’t accept taking a loss and looking at what they can do to improve , if you could check shaiikos time played compared to Pengus you’d see the major difference in overall ambition, Shaiiko plays off instinct and Aggro , most players have the same habits and same routines as other players , easy to see it the more your in a game , Pros react the same way as noobs only difference is reaction time and ability to see signs and change what your about to do so you can set yourself up better , all shaiikos plays were less than 50 percent of his body showing majority of the time , while majority of his fights he took his enemies bodies were 60-78 percent in the same spot or showing , also being called a cheater is the best compliment a Pro player can give another pro player if the player isn’t cheating and it’s proven the player isn’t cheating
Pro league doesnt ban anyone based off doubts...
they found him spamming 4 way faster than human limitations... AKA Macros. which is cheating.
dominique cedeno u telling me this man hacked a pc in a pro game? how? he had to download something right? this isnt his computer
@@thaiwood7528 I can just talk from a CS point of view: Since 1.6, CSS, CSGO a lot of the pros used and are still using cheats in their mice. They can use their own mouse at the tournament and the driver or whatever is build into the mouse installs the cheat.. the AC checks for those drivers but there are many flaws and loopholes. They just have to connect the mouse and they are good to go e.g. with an aimkey on mouse4 or a subtle aimassistance while firing weapons with mouse1
pengu is just jealous of his skill and afraid that this guy would steal his place in the spotlight so he got him banned
William Dubois its not like he planted that code dude he only said that they should check him out and when they did they found what they found. If that code is legit or not he couldn t know but you would assume that in this situation.
@@paradoxx639 he did more than that, he rallied everyone to get him banned for a bug in the code
He became number 1 player in his first year back, so pengu's comment idn't age well.
That's based off stats, hence why all of the players are flex/draggers. Not taking anything from the guy but he's played much worse since his ban. Would you say he's better than Canadian or Pengu who have won more?
@@jasonterry8719 G2 choked at the most recent EU major, just like canadian did when he was on eg. Pengu may have won more but that doesnt mean jack shit, if it did im sure G2 wouldnt have choked the massive lead they had.
@@LilPeroxideJr. So winning 2 world titles means jack shit? Choking events doesn't make you bad. BDS have a major, which is debatable considering it's regional and they were saved by a losers bracket. You learn more by losing than winning. G2 didn't think they had to change playstyle while BDS knew they had to. That's why NiP came within 4 rounds of winning invite. They changed how they played however they ran out of steam at the last minute.
@@LilPeroxideJr. they have chemestry problem they dont have someone loke fabian anymore and they have to adapt, also many good play dont win, never heard " a king without a crown?
@@jasonterry8719 of course and he is better than pengu .No hate to pengu as he is considered one of the goats but he is washed now and he even knows it.G2 is a last cause .They will choke again in Sl
I never thought he cheated.
Look at how beaulo was called out a cheater before he streamed.
ppl are just one of a kind{shaiiko,beaulo,kanto,spoit} but others just get salty and call
them cheaters..its really sad
You can not compare Spoit to actual pro league players lol he all aim no brain and he’s a ranked star nowhere near the skill or iq needed for pro league
Too bad Shaiko can't sue for the damages he sustained... :(
Oran O'Loughlin same could’ve been said for Beaulo before he went pro tho
@@LordDragox412 he could sue them I think, false accusations if they have proof of the anti cheat system being not accurate and the game developers not giving him the right to defend himself.
Don't forget shroud with the aim of an aimbot.
I wouldn’t even shake Pengu’s hand after a match if I were him.
He should shake hands, show that he is better. I would understand if he didn't but I think it's a more respectable way of handling things.
FrieschePS3 nah no hand shakes, 1 year of a life stolen. Not a chance would I do that if I was shaiiko
FrieschePS3 He’s a better person than a lot of us, but I’d want all that smoke.
@@MYOSlS that would be stupid. just dont shake his hand, he doesnt deserve your sportsmanship
I'd give him the "N0tail deathglare."
Why didn't they just let someone look behind him while he plays
That would make too much sense
In CSGO the is a refere behind the teams watching if they do something special
that wouldnt have made a difference since the actual claim was recoil control not wall hacks. pengu is just a salty trash child
@@jan_7557 in csgo they use sound cheats
You want drama and injustice or not?
"Shaiiko is the John Wick of Seige" One of the best things I've heard someone be called
Imagine being so good at "something" so that "something" decides you are to good at it so you are disqualified for participating in that "something". I cant imagine the pain he must have had when he got the notice...
Bruh if I got banned for 2 years from siege I’d cry and I’m not even good
Why do u keep putting "something" in quotation marks lmao
Someone is better than you? Solution-ruin his career for 2 years
Basically.
Do you play seej? There is no way a pub star is better than a pl star. Shaikko may have superior aim, but pengu is better at brain
@@johnbeem7236 You might have that mixed up. Pengu brain is definitely not working 2 well
John Beem to play siege you need a brain first of all that guy is nuts on it there’s always someone better than you be humble
@@ST-jy2el also I love that your shitting on pengu, even tho pengu did nothing wrong
"Hm, this guy is better than one of the greatest pro players, therefore he is cheating."
Because pengu and his team believe that they are the most power team hayss. They just ruin someone's career
what the fuck do you call someone who falsely cried out someone's cheating but turns out he's good
@@imgladnotu9527 a pengu?
Guys so they thought he was suspicious and REPORT IT... the rest was the system i guess
Pengu gets rekt
Pengu: MOOOOOOOOMMMMYYYYYYY!!!!!!!
ESL: yes son
Pengu: This guy destoyed me. My ego is too high to accept that I lost. Get him banned mommy
ESL: Ofcourse my son, anything for you.
*Shaiiko gets banned*
Hyphen lol
you sound like a 12yr old
NIMA 24x stfu
Penta won the game tho????
Lmfao, clueless fanboy that can’t see how biased this video is.
@@prodigioso6779 Penta won, yes, and that makes this act looking much more like a kid crying over to their mommy.. They already won but he was so full of himself that he cannot be admit someone is playing better than him.. so he reported bullshits that led to someone's career being tarnished for the rest of his life.. without proper evidence and not to mention there are good counter evidence to the allegations, they still banned shaiko.. so who's the clueless fanboy here now.?
Bro joystick is a known cheater but the cheats are installed on his half cyborg brain
Some people might say that Joystick uses aimbot, but no. HE IS the aimbot, so yes i agree with your statement, it's just mechanically implanted to his body. Same goes for Shaiiko.
@@hanakomisa yes and for pengu, his anticheat is just bugging a little
@@chungushook Pengu has massive respect for Team Empire, don't trashtalk.
Shaiko and JoyStick are cyborgs from an CCCP facility
@@chungushook Not gonna lie the comeback was pretty satisfying.
I got chilled about hearing the word "John wick of r6s"
words*
@@notatroll4242 the Word.
kajong razer Who killed his dog?
@@dingdong3080 pengu
The only difference is they didn’t kill his pup they banned him
"Spamming his 4 key at a inhuman speed"
Jitterclicking: allow me to introduce myself
You can't do that on a keyboard though
• Nhavvy • yes you can, they’re both buttons that you press...
@@nickc9264 Idk why I worded it like that. What I meant is the term jitterclicking is specific to a mouse
@@ianswerwithquestionmarks3237 Heard osu players?
@@ianswerwithquestionmarks3237 You cant jitterclick with a keyboard though
Shaiiko seems genuinely hurt by whole ordeal because he's always claimed his innocence and he hasn't stopped playing like that madman on Begenius to this day.
I love how pengu sits there trying to be logical when literally he was the one who reported him and made fun of him for getting banned smh
Still got banned and bds is the bottom of pro league right now. Shaiko is overrated
@@csm235 lmao stop being delusional, shaiiko isnt overrated as he is currently rated as the siege best player (esl) and he did hold a record of kills in pl. watch any of his pl match and you'll see
tristan louvart he can even get 35 kills per game , if his team ain’t winning any minors or majors, it’s not worth anything. And Pengu played less rounds in his kill record
@@csm235 you were talking about shaiiko not his team and btw BDS is a new org and yet they managed to get top 4 at SI far ahead G2
I dunno, Pengu seems to have mellowed out since, And more often than not he'll be willing to talk about things logically.
I'd be quicker to point at ESL than Pengu for harming Shaiko's career.
Like they found one line of code that looked like a macro, And immediately banned.
That's not on pengu, from what was said in the video pengu was told by other players that Shaiko had more information than he should of had, and then some of those shots in the clips? You'd be inclined to think they're sus.
Pengu was hot headed a few years ago, Definitely, He even got warned that his career could go to shit if he didnt tone things back and he did. I don't think he's a bad dude, definitely not anymore atleast, I think he was just vocal about suspicions and concerns raised by other players, and then Shaiko got fucked by coincidence that something was wrong with Moss.
The ESL jumped the gun big time, If you suspect but cant confirm anything, just give them a game to protect or defend themselves. Hell do it at lan.
If I was in Shaiko's shoes I'd be much more annoyed at ESL than Pengu.
Shaiiko:*exists*
Shroud:Ive found my long lost twin
Shroud was never cheating so he would never say these words.
@@Nexberd ofc he was.
@IRONIC SLEEP scream is shit
nisanosa Yet they make an entire legendary video on him, lol.
@@Nexberd necroposting sucks
I'm not a fan of 6Siege or something, I'm all about CSGO, but that doesn't look like a cheat for me, that's pure skill right there.
I don't even play fps games but looking at some of the clips in this video the dude plays like he is composing a piece of art just like mozart or Beethoven
Yeah his gameplay isn’t cheating. It’s just the use of macro. That’s cheating. It’s not wh or esp or aim or shit.
@@thijmen8823 Nah, never played siege so I wouldn't know but hsing people through walls in CS:GO is almost always after hearing steps, etc.
Really, the reason people think he was cheating in the first place was because of his ungodly sixth sense for wallbangs. Same reason why people thought Joystick was a cheater. But upon not finding any evidence of wallhacks in the MOSS file Pengu decided to report him for macros instead because he was just salty.
those 1taps were crispy
He’s not a cheater, he just has a better gaming chair
Are u call him cheating?
@@sdasdasd8360 cause he was lol
@@urbanbang5513 ?
When you're so "godlike" that people even in the pro scene think u cheat . Holy crap this guy is nuts.
Happened to ZywOo aswell, also a new french prodigy. Enters the competitve scene at 18yo after prioitizing school and is now gunning for #1 rank in the world in his first competitive year. Even some pros, including renamed french AWPer kennyS suspected him of cheating cuz he is so flawless, smart and nutty.
ill let you in on a secret, all "pros" cheat. aim lock all day. its so obvious to real gamers. if they are jealous, its because his cheats are better than theirs
@@goblinphreak2132 no they dont...
GoblinPhreak I love how people in these comments think pros are flawless people who wouldn’t use silent cheats when money is on the line despite the countless prices of evidence
@@Aaron0525 Didn't know bout it . Thanks for the info .
What infuriates me the most is that this could've been proved or disproved with something as simple as a LAN event...
or you just watch the gameplay and see him litterally using aimbot. or stay braindead. whatever. fact remains the guy is using an obvious aimbot. still baffles me how oblivious most gamersare .
@@deathrager2404 iM sO wOkE
Death Rager or ya know, he might just be good at aiming... but I wouldn’t want to offend you. 🙏👌👍
@@deathrager2404 you played csgo when it went f2p. stfu silver
I don't think that would prove anything, the issue wasn't if he's a top player, but if he cheated or not on that very day.
11:28 "to prove his innocence"
I think he already prooved his innocence by dropping 25kills against LG ON LAN.
OneCupT yeah, I get it, but LG is NA and not even top 5 NA
Zzz Copper yes but he didnt say he was the best just that he was innocent
@@zCoppr doesn't really matter . It's a pro team after all and he dropped like 25 kills .Not to mention his performance against G2.
@@zCoppr people like you are so cringe. Stick to your gold 4 matches
Jared Frazier nice. Using a baseless insult about something completely irrelevant rather than countering my argument. I’m not saying shaiiko was cheating, nor am I saying he is bad, I’m just saying that shaiiko knows just how to play against NA, and also that just because he is a beast now doesn’t mean he never cheated.
The biggest compliment you can ever get
You know you are a God when everyone thinks you're cheating
@The Master XIV then they found bug in their anti cheat system
So You Call People Demon Shit If Everyone Thinks You're a bot
Lol god won't die. A perfect play not a drip of blood. That's god and all its entirety. This guy a master level
I've only watched Pengu a few times and he literally says something is sus every game I've watched him play. He reminds me of the old ninja, always complaining.
I haven't watched Pengu ever and for some reason I just can't stand him already - just based on the clips of him in this video lmao
i dont watch ppl with bad manners, shrood better
Pengu was just scared of a player that might take his title away
Thanks for the likes btw
then why is pengu not afraid of empire and joystick he even said joystick is not hacking they have already taken one of his titles
@Naurius the mans said it on stream
@@jellocook because if he wasn't scared of this guy he wouldn't have won any of the 3 he won that year he was banned. Also after the first time you become much less creditable. Ever hear of the boy who called wolf?
@@matthewgreening8982 you do remember penta winning the match, right?
True I agree with that💯 pengu is trash
He didn’t cheat I thing he’s just the best
God
Thx for the support
If I was Shaiiko and I got to play against Pengu, I would literally hunt him down and tbag him on the spot for like a good solid 30 seconds or until I get headshot by someone.
Mee too
You would probably get banned for toxic behaviour not sure tho or your team would kick you
@@vang6071 oh but getting someone banned because their better than you isn't toxic? Ok
@@Maccaroney i never said pengu was being toxic i prefer shaiko what im indicating is that hunting someone down the whole match is also toxic also pengu is a huge name so he would make a lame excuse and get shaiko baneed from pro leugue for another 2 years
@@vang6071 I didn't mean that in reply to you. I meant it as a reply to the situation. I agree with you.
"Shaiiko: plays better than pengu"
Pengu: *hE iS hAcKing*
He got banned though.
@@benjaminbarr8714 And? Did you not watch the video lol its very clear he never manipulated the game. Regardless of anything else, he's just as good in other games and he still plays siege to this day, playing the exact same way. Very clear none of this would be the case if he's hacking.
Just put someone to watch while he plays why is that so hard
The “best” rainbow six player is like that 12 year old kid in the lobby yelling hacker! Hacker! Cheater!
don’t make fun of him! he’s the “best” player!
lmao
Bruh this comment section is a bullshit wasteland
@@hughman2834 We have a mission my friend. We need to put this shit together
@@jonasmolacek9657 yh its a hellhole there
@@hughman2834 I love Score but they really made this some sort of a hero vs villain redemption story
never seen rainbow six game play in my life, but the title intrigued me and i stayed throughout it all, great video..gettem shaiiko
I don't even play this game, but man, that guy is so good he gets called as a cheater.
Being called a cheater is one thing, but being banned by ESL and have the entire community turn its back on you is so much more bullshit.
Your right , man got screwed over and they realized he wasn’t cheating and shortened his ban , being called a cheater as a pro player is the greatest compliment someone can give you as a gamer but being screwed like that is ass
If he isn’t cheating his comeback story will be legendary!
There was never any proof that he was cheating.
Shroud 2.0
Shai is insane
Glad he got his revenge on that pengu guy... and hope he keeps destroying him.
Pengu is overrated
i hope he never shakes hands with that pengu guy
Pengu is overrated 😂😂😂 you're high kid
@Richard McWendy Jordan Samuelson not the best anymore.
@@blakey1032 pengu is the best r6 player ever, he's not overrated. He's the goat
Pengu: "No you can't just press 4 repeatedly that fast"
Shaiiko: "Git gud"
Shaiiko didn't cheat, and this is his revenge tour. ShaiikoGOAT.
Valen ya he did he used a macro
Dilute did you not watch the video or did you come straight to the comments
@@dilute6715 Still never confirmed, and the only person who genuinely thought so was Pengu, and anyone that does better than him is cheating, according to Pengu.
@@ValenR6 pengu was 🧂
@@pogotf did you literally not watch the video, you melon?