i am glad John Davis is still around! Hearing his voice talking about cars is like coming home i hope he stays around reviewing cars for a good long amount of time to come! Thank You John Davis Thank You Motorweek! 💯
66k!!! this would be a great car in the 50k range … maybe, but an additional 20 K over base for what’s essentially a slight tune and appearance package is Wild
it feels like the entry sports car genre is dead everything is just so expensive. the Alpine costs 54.000$ minimum up to way beyond 100k. the Supra costs 57.000$ minimum. the new Honda Civic Type R will cost minimum 47.000$ The Corvette seems to be the best choice of all of them. even the new Toyota G86 will cost 31.000$ minimum, which is as much as the new Ford Mustang EcoBoost with 315hp. The V8 450 hp Mustang fastback costs "only" 45.000$, which seems kinda reasonable compared to the other prices listed here. i remember when entry level sports cars could be bought for 17.000$ (first gen Civic Type R cost that much in 1997)
@@manodiaoThe GT86 seems like a good deal. 0-60 in ~6.5 seconds is absolutely fine. The torque dip is largely mitigated. MPG is decent. It’s a 2+2 with seats that are nearly useless for seating adults but the folding provides a nice amount of cargo space. The biggest factor imo to not get it would be its exhaust note. It’s not great.
It needs a manual transmission. And it's extremely overpriced! It should be 48k for a Nismo manual transmission. There's no reason it should be anywhere near the 60s. 50k is pushing it.
A Z32TT cost that much, thirty years ago in '90s money, and a clean low km one costs that much used in today's money. The RZ34 Nismo is head a shoulders above that car, though I agree they need an hshift version. If I want a fast "automatic" I'll just buy a used Tesla.
@@350z33hryou're right but honestly dealerships are quick to over charge whenever possible. I'm speaking from a person that got back $5K from a class action lawsuit from a dealership that over charge their customers.
I've only seen one too where I live, the yellow launch edition. But I do see Ferraris, Lamborghinis, McLarens and Bentleys daily. So I guess it's super rare on the east coast.
Yall need to drive this car. Its a great driver's car... However, you could buy a base or performance model and upgrade it for this amount and make it smoke any of the other cars in the price point you are comparing it to
So they put a light tune, lame red accents and springs. I dunno for $66k which most people don't have me included. There are a bunch of other options. I feel like its too little too late for Nissan for too much.
At around $50k for the Nismo, it would be a bit more attractive. Priced at the same as a BMW M2, which you can get with a manual, I don't see why you would choose this.
@@autodigitvlogs Not sure what you're getting at, the M2 is heavier than it was before, but it's just under 200lbs heavier than the Z (and has a useable backseat). The power to weight ratio, handling prowess, and driving experience are firmly in the M2's corner. Add in the better materials of the M2 (the Nissan interior is underwhelming) and there's no contest, especially when you factor the biggest difference between the two, the option of a manual transmission on the M2, and none on the Nismo Z.
Love John Davis! As for the new Z, I live in a major West Coast metro city where you'd expect to see these on roads, and I haven't seen a single Z in the wild. Not one. I don't know what Nissan dealers are doing with this car, but it sure seems like they aren't selling them to buyers. I'm happy this NISMO exists. It's not perfect, but it doesn't need to be. Any sports car is a good thing. I will say though, the front tires on the car in this video were begging for mercy. With as much protesting as they were doing in this video, I can't imagine them surviving very long at a track day. Probably nothing some extra camber can't fix.
The price is high, but they know they only sell a few Nismo versions to Z collectors. Unfortunately BAE and the early CVT debacle kind of hamstrung all Nissan cars so folks don't want them. Plus, the Sport Z comes in hshift (with a better diff) and is 90% of what this car is. You can snap up one of those and spend a few weekends putting on all the Nismo parts, bushings and all, (including the Nismo catalog parts that don't even come on the Nismo version!) and still come out less than this car, bonus is it will be hshift and a whole lot more fun.
I think people are being too critical of this car. Yes its at least 15k too expensive, however its not electric, RWD, has better styling than original, better interior, better wheels, better suspension and is still quick. I agree its too much, but in this day in age we have Toyota 4Runners going for 70k, and other overpriced cars. Other than its price, and no manual option, I would say its pretty good.
Boring car. So uninspiring compared to the 1990s version. And listen to those poor front tires screaming due to copious, terminal understeer. Zero interest.
This car is very nearly perfect.... apart from price. The previous gen 370Z and Nismo model could be had for around $30-35k brand new if you haggled well with a dealership pre-2020 and that was a really good deal. But then covid really changed all that.... This new Z looks great, while keeping almost everything underneath and inside over 10 years old. And that is fine.
Ridiculous price!... I bought a new 2019 C7 Corvette Grand Sport 2LT and paid only a couple K more and it has 460 HP V8, and yet gets the same gas milage! and in my opinion the C7 looks better🤔... No offense to anyone who bought this thing, but it's a rip off! 💯%
As a Z car fan, I just couldn't pull the trigger on this. I own two Z32's, a TT and NA (which I'll LS3 swap). I owned a Z34 aka 370Z sport package 6-speed. But this new Z is a letdown. I ended up buying a used C7 Z51 7-speed. Much faster, better handling, and better looking.
Almost $3000 more than my Mach 1 and can’t compete with it in any performance metric on that 30 year old chassis, and is less useful…. Shame as I think it’s a beautiful car!
Wait. Did you say 0-60 is EXACTLY the same as the regular model? So, paying 23k more for stickers and tweaked suspension?! The 2019 370Z, could do 0-60 in 5.2 seconds. And NISMO could do it in 4.7.
@@barchamthey haven't been available on exotics for over 20 years. It's because it's easier to slap an auto in there without thought. The rest of us peasants prefer manual transmission cars when it comes to fast performance.
@@LrulestheworldM8 They're typically DCT and nothing easy about its engineering. I suppose you prefer drum brakes, tube tires, worm and gear steering boxes, I mean it took a real man with skills to drive cars like that quickly.
@@LrulestheworldM8 It is because automatics today shift more precisely and faster than anyone can shift a manual. Why do you think F1 cars have automatic/clutchless shifting today? Certainly not because they are slower. Technology cannot be defeated by slow human reflexes.
I would downshift to 3rd and spin when i had the stock tires on my 2003 Mach1, that was only about 330 with my mods at the time. It's more about the tire than anything.
Yea, this aint it chief. $66k and all you get is a twin turbo 6 (that will likely need turbos at 50k), a dash thats a giant screen, no manual, uncomfortable bucket seats, and an uninspired factory body kit. These are just bad. The original z looks much better, is cheaper, and can be tuned to match the numbers of this car. I see no point in this even existing.
I'm glad they fixed the flaws in the base car, but $67k is a whole lotta cabbage for a Z. If you have that much to spend on a two-seat sports car, why not get a Z51 Stingray instead?
tired of seeing the no manual comment, if u want a manual go buy a different car thats slower or a miata and u can shift all u want. a nismo is a track focused car.
Meh. Im a “car guy” and love all types. Im just not that impressed. Im not saying it’s not fun but I really expected a lot more excitement, like the 240z.
I like them but if you compare these lines with the perfect lines of a 90 300zx, they just don't hold up. The 90 300zx had some of the smoothest lines that still pop today, this car looks like a Hyundai Tiburon in comparison.
$70K is just way too much money for a Z. They should drop it to like $60K. My Q60 RedSport was around $70K new but has a lot more luxury touches, full leather, moonroof, lots of carbon etc. to make the price make more sense.
i am glad John Davis is still around! Hearing his voice talking about cars is like coming home i hope he stays around reviewing cars for a good long amount of time to come! Thank You John Davis Thank You Motorweek! 💯
66k!!! this would be a great car in the 50k range … maybe, but an additional 20 K over base for what’s essentially a slight tune and appearance package is Wild
This would be a great 35-40k car.
in 2024 your not gonna see something like this that cheap LOL maybe 20 years ago.
@KpopNiDontStop It's not worth a penny more than 55k because the better options are around 65k Lol
@@JDMHaze it would be a great car at 35k, time to reverse this inflation trend and bring prices back to Earth.
Yeah it's too expensive. the pro move is to get a base RZ34 manual and go aftermarket for the performance if you're dead set on a new Z
I just can’t get over if I was wanting a performance coupe, for this money, I could get a new basic Corvette 😮
Or a c7 GS lightly used
I have a C5 Z06. Paid $20K for it.
it feels like the entry sports car genre is dead
everything is just so expensive.
the Alpine costs 54.000$ minimum up to way beyond 100k.
the Supra costs 57.000$ minimum.
the new Honda Civic Type R will cost minimum 47.000$
The Corvette seems to be the best choice of all of them.
even the new Toyota G86 will cost 31.000$ minimum, which is as much as the new Ford Mustang EcoBoost with 315hp.
The V8 450 hp Mustang fastback costs "only" 45.000$, which seems kinda reasonable compared to the other prices listed here.
i remember when entry level sports cars could be bought for 17.000$ (first gen Civic Type R cost that much in 1997)
Different strokes for different folks
@@manodiaoThe GT86 seems like a good deal. 0-60 in ~6.5 seconds is absolutely fine.
The torque dip is largely mitigated. MPG is decent. It’s a 2+2 with seats that are nearly useless for seating adults but the folding provides a nice amount of cargo space.
The biggest factor imo to not get it would be its exhaust note. It’s not great.
66k is crazy. You can get a brand new Darkhorse, a C8, or brand new supra for that price. And thats not even counting the used car market.
60-0 in 94 feet is NUTS.
That is impressive
I wonder how quickly pads start to fade
It's good because cars have gotten so heavy these days.. But remember that many cars in the '90s were doing 100 feet.
i still have yet to see one of these on the road. i don't think it actually exists.
I love that this guy is still making these videos
At that price point, hard to see this car appealing to more than Z fans.
Only 20 more horses and no manual...
Not the Z that I was 'waiting for'!
Way too much performance available in that price range.
we don't cares
@@allentoyokawa9068 as car enthusiasts, we do care about performance for the price. This car ain't it.
It needs a manual transmission. And it's extremely overpriced! It should be 48k for a Nismo manual transmission. There's no reason it should be anywhere near the 60s. 50k is pushing it.
A Z32TT cost that much, thirty years ago in '90s money, and a clean low km one costs that much used in today's money. The RZ34 Nismo is head a shoulders above that car, though I agree they need an hshift version. If I want a fast "automatic" I'll just buy a used Tesla.
More like 70K out the door with markups. Overpriced is a fact.
Easy. Don't buy it, if you can't afford it 🥴🤡🤡🤡
@@jbuelman2025 I was gonna say the same thing dealership are just in it to f*@# people over.
@@350z33hryou're right but honestly dealerships are quick to over charge whenever possible. I'm speaking from a person that got back $5K from a class action lawsuit from a dealership that over charge their customers.
WOW, Great seeing John Davis again.. The car is not too exciting to me..
Who cares what you think lol
@@eagles4757 you responded right? hhmm
Yikes, this thing is very noncompetitive. You could get a C8, used C7 Z06, a lightly used Cayman, any number of muscle cars, the supra, the bmw Z4....
All have low reliability and don’t last when raced.
@@Rubeless easy to be reliable when you are slow.
@@kodacres7820 since when is 420hp slow?
The front looks waaayyy better than the standard trim
I wish there was a roadster version available, nevermind the $66000 price tag and lack of a stick.
At this point, I’m convinced that this man is a vampire
Ive seen 1 on the road... the regular one
I see them daily here in So Cal.
I've only seen one too where I live, the yellow launch edition. But I do see Ferraris, Lamborghinis, McLarens and Bentleys daily. So I guess it's super rare on the east coast.
@@coolbasset Seems it's too low-end to be in your neighborhood.
@@justme307always the contrarian. Their US sales of the Z are low, they cost too much and any random Mustang GT will leave it staring at tail lights.
They are all over the place
*For that Price*
*I'll take the DARK HORSE Mustang*
Looks good. This car is for the people that don’t want a mustang or corvette. And that person is me.
Yall need to drive this car. Its a great driver's car... However, you could buy a base or performance model and upgrade it for this amount and make it smoke any of the other cars in the price point you are comparing it to
So they put a light tune, lame red accents and springs. I dunno for $66k which most people don't have me included. There are a bunch of other options. I feel like its too little too late for Nissan for too much.
This car is perfect
Overpriced
umm no it is not
and autotragic
a boomer mobile
@@allentoyokawa9068 Cost the same as the 25 M2 🤣😂
You just can’t afford it 😢
@eagles4757 I have two cars worth almost 150k that I owe nothing on! Nice try welfare boy!!😂
Nice specs but the 90s one is my all time favorite
At around $50k for the Nismo, it would be a bit more attractive. Priced at the same as a BMW M2, which you can get with a manual, I don't see why you would choose this.
M2 weighs 1720kg nearly as much as a GTR...
@@autodigitvlogs Not sure what you're getting at, the M2 is heavier than it was before, but it's just under 200lbs heavier than the Z (and has a useable backseat). The power to weight ratio, handling prowess, and driving experience are firmly in the M2's corner. Add in the better materials of the M2 (the Nissan interior is underwhelming) and there's no contest, especially when you factor the biggest difference between the two, the option of a manual transmission on the M2, and none on the Nismo Z.
The tow trucks and mechanics are who really wait for more Nissans.
Love John Davis! As for the new Z, I live in a major West Coast metro city where you'd expect to see these on roads, and I haven't seen a single Z in the wild. Not one. I don't know what Nissan dealers are doing with this car, but it sure seems like they aren't selling them to buyers.
I'm happy this NISMO exists. It's not perfect, but it doesn't need to be. Any sports car is a good thing. I will say though, the front tires on the car in this video were begging for mercy. With as much protesting as they were doing in this video, I can't imagine them surviving very long at a track day. Probably nothing some extra camber can't fix.
No manual option? Screw that.
Move to Europe where 80% of new cars are sold with a manual. You're just a regular person over there and not very special.
@@justme307At least for the Z, that’s a bad idea. Nissan doesn’t even sell the Z in the UK and the car may be too new to import.
@@justme307 yeah because eUrOpE is a country and EVERY thing is ALL the same, right???
So you prefer a slow car?
@@24ecko You prefer easy mode driving that requires no skill?
Almost 70k 😮. Yeah I’d rather get something else at that point
For that price with no manual transmission, its not worth it.
Yes it IS worth it
@@bobdylan6773 not with only paddle shifters.
Don’t buy it enjoy your Corolla 😂
@@eagles4757 actually I own a 6-speed manual 94 Firehawk. You can keep your Corolla. 🤣
Manual transmissions have gotten worse since 2014
The price is high, but they know they only sell a few Nismo versions to Z collectors. Unfortunately BAE and the early CVT debacle kind of hamstrung all Nissan cars so folks don't want them.
Plus, the Sport Z comes in hshift (with a better diff) and is 90% of what this car is. You can snap up one of those and spend a few weekends putting on all the Nismo parts, bushings and all, (including the Nismo catalog parts that don't even come on the Nismo version!) and still come out less than this car, bonus is it will be hshift and a whole lot more fun.
Not sure about the price, a Lexus RCF V8 starts at $66k as well. with 4 seats
I haven’t seen a single new Z in NYC as of yet.
I almost lost my mind and purchased one. Thankfully I pulled my head out and bought a corvette instead. The NISMO is nice but overpriced by $10,000
I think people are being too critical of this car. Yes its at least 15k too expensive, however its not electric, RWD, has better styling than original, better interior, better wheels, better suspension and is still quick. I agree its too much, but in this day in age we have Toyota 4Runners going for 70k, and other overpriced cars. Other than its price, and no manual option, I would say its pretty good.
I cant get over that NISMO only adds 20HP, but a literal $500 tweaker will give you 40, and a proper tune will give 50-60.
Nice!
Impossible to appreciate this car when there are 4 door, 4 cylinder cars that provide basically the same performance.
Hard pass
I wonder what is the sales volume of the Z, I really haven't seen much if maybe 2 around.
Nizmo for life ❤
That is a great looking car! I have a new Z black performance model & absolutely love it.
John Davis is the MAN in car reviews, his the godfather !!! 😀🤗
Boring car. So uninspiring compared to the 1990s version. And listen to those poor front tires screaming due to copious, terminal understeer. Zero interest.
I mean it might not be your cup of tea but it definitely looks fun to drive even with an auto.
I prefer the Performance trim for a road car. Manual transmission and less gaudy styling.
Best in class by far
Nissan’s 400Z Nismo still zips like hell.
For that price, I want 100hp more. And 100 lbs less weight.
And a 6spd!
Who??? Is buying this thing? Priced is outrageous and is a break down problem... 😊
"Kneez-Mo" 😂
Idk who said not to give it a manual but that's just a shame
12.8 for nearly 70k is kinda rough
My 09 Z 6 speed still works. Only paid $5500 😂
Knees-moe. Wonder if it has those rare, Bill-Shteen shocks...
66 grand & no stick? Come on man!
Real deal sports car.which are getting really rare nowadays.
It’s such a great looking car, just wished they preformed a little better
Love the looks, it's striking. Don't love the lack of a manual or the price. I'd personally take it over a Corvette.
It would probably last longer
Suspension looks wobbly.
Performance Z for 53k or Nismo for 72k👀
No cvt?
So the basic Z for less money is a bit quicker minus the upgrades that you don’t need unless you’re tracking it. Gotcha.
This car is very nearly perfect.... apart from price.
The previous gen 370Z and Nismo model could be had for around $30-35k brand new if you haggled well with a dealership pre-2020 and that was a really good deal. But then covid really changed all that....
This new Z looks great, while keeping almost everything underneath and inside over 10 years old. And that is fine.
looks like i was here first, this is very fast and tuff like the original Z.
$66000 is way overpriced...
Ok lol 😂
Don't buy it. Find yourself a prius
Ridiculous price!... I bought a new 2019 C7 Corvette Grand Sport 2LT and paid only a couple K more and it has 460 HP V8, and yet gets the same gas milage! and in my opinion the C7 looks better🤔... No offense to anyone who bought this thing, but it's a rip off! 💯%
"Neeeesmo !!!" Let's get it😁
As a Z car fan, I just couldn't pull the trigger on this. I own two Z32's, a TT and NA (which I'll LS3 swap). I owned a Z34 aka 370Z sport package 6-speed. But this new Z is a letdown. I ended up buying a used C7 Z51 7-speed. Much faster, better handling, and better looking.
The Kneezmo
What no manual transmission 😢
Not all bad . Fluid flush is required every vehicle
Awesome car!
They need to go back to a Stripped down Performance model with the Required ADAS hard/software and let people skip the heavy bells and whistles.
"The front tires could still use a little more grip"
That's because the tread is down to like 30% 😂
Wow, That’s C8 Corvette money. The vette kills this thing in every metric. So does a C7 corvette. 😂😂
Even a C6 Z06 lol
I would still take a ss 1le over this. And have a good amount left over.
yeh have fun with that junk
@@allentoyokawa9068 i can only assume you have not test drove a ss 1le
It is a million times better than this. @Gchang54
These will be sitting at that price.
The ugly headlights make the front end look like a Miata to me.
Almost $3000 more than my Mach 1 and can’t compete with it in any performance metric on that 30 year old chassis, and is less useful…. Shame as I think it’s a beautiful car!
I think your Mach 1 would hammer this car on any Autocross or Road course track
@@deansapp4635 No it wouldn't
The Z would spank you car
9 out of 10 people won't ever take this car on a track so I don't think that really matters
@@allentoyokawa9068 I’ll be at Mid-Ohio tomorrow, bring that Z out and I’ll be happy to show you my tail lights.
Love it
Needs another 150 hp and tq
MW you guys need a new test driver on track, he’s clearly never learned smooth is fast.
I think their test drivers over drive the cars on purpose. They seem to like letting the tail hang out a bit.
The depreciation of the Nissan Z two years in, is crazy compared to the Supra .
10yo GTR is far superior
People criticized the RCF, but this thing with a twin-turbo V6 and 500 pounds less isn't any faster... And at $66K, I'd much rather the RCF!
What's an RCF?
@@mediocreman2 Seriously?
All that had to do was keep the 280z, sheet metal and add a better motor.
Where does that leave the Z32?
Wait. Did you say 0-60 is EXACTLY the same as the regular model?
So, paying 23k more for stickers and tweaked suspension?!
The 2019 370Z, could do 0-60 in 5.2 seconds. And NISMO could do it in 4.7.
4.2
At that price point, it'd be hard to choose this over an M2, looks notwithstanding.
No manual, no thanks
No need for manual transmissions these days. They aren't even available on Ferraris and Lambos these days.
@@barchamthey haven't been available on exotics for over 20 years. It's because it's easier to slap an auto in there without thought. The rest of us peasants prefer manual transmission cars when it comes to fast performance.
@@LrulestheworldM8 They're typically DCT and nothing easy about its engineering. I suppose you prefer drum brakes, tube tires, worm and gear steering boxes, I mean it took a real man with skills to drive cars like that quickly.
@@LrulestheworldM8 It is because automatics today shift more precisely and faster than anyone can shift a manual. Why do you think F1 cars have automatic/clutchless shifting today? Certainly not because they are slower. Technology cannot be defeated by slow human reflexes.
@@LrulestheworldM8 manual isn't fast.
I click for JD the OG
Spinning tires in 3rd gear with only 420hp and an auto transmission is crazy
The 370 could chirp going from 2/3 with 100 less hp . Not that crazy. This is c6 vette power
It's a 9 speed so it's not like it's going 100 mph already
I would downshift to 3rd and spin when i had the stock tires on my 2003 Mach1, that was only about 330 with my mods at the time. It's more about the tire than anything.
@@Stigz34yes….with a manual transmission you can chirp tires with even 150hp. This is an automatic if you haven’t noticed ..
@@fugginramboyes but it’s also an automatic, not a manual with a clutch pedal…
Oddly enough, I prefer the rear over the front in the standard 🤔 form vs this Nismo. Porsche level braking.
Yea, this aint it chief. $66k and all you get is a twin turbo 6 (that will likely need turbos at 50k), a dash thats a giant screen, no manual, uncomfortable bucket seats, and an uninspired factory body kit. These are just bad. The original z looks much better, is cheaper, and can be tuned to match the numbers of this car. I see no point in this even existing.
Buy 1966 VW Beetle, build it up so it can spank a new 296 GTS, and tell everyone your Beetle is better than the Ferrari. OK, got it.
@@justme307imagine thinking your mental gymnastics are logical.
@@justme307 try harder.
Umm there is nothing wrong with this and it worth EVERY penny, t roll
@@allentoyokawa9068 it's not. At all. There's plenty of better options in this price range. And I'm a Nissan fan. Try your botting somewhere else.
I'm glad they fixed the flaws in the base car, but $67k is a whole lotta cabbage for a Z. If you have that much to spend on a two-seat sports car, why not get a Z51 Stingray instead?
I like better the back than the front, i find it to mild.
It's C8 Corvette money. Don't give Nissan a pass. Let the C8 eat. It's priced like a base C8.
No manual, no interest. My 20 year old Acura tsx is more exciting.
tired of seeing the no manual comment, if u want a manual go buy a different car thats slower or a miata and u can shift all u want. a nismo is a track focused car.
No manual is a letdown and this costs too much. Looks better than the base Z tho it should have been like $45k
Meh. Im a “car guy” and love all types. Im just not that impressed. Im not saying it’s not fun but I really expected a lot more excitement, like the 240z.
I like them but if you compare these lines with the perfect lines of a 90 300zx, they just don't hold up. The 90 300zx had some of the smoothest lines that still pop today, this car looks like a Hyundai Tiburon in comparison.
$70K is just way too much money for a Z. They should drop it to like $60K. My Q60 RedSport was around $70K new but has a lot more luxury touches, full leather, moonroof, lots of carbon etc. to make the price make more sense.
Excuse me but did you just say you payed 70k for a q60 .......................sir GET HELP
This thing is the Japanese version of the Dodge Challenger. Milking a bit more life out of a 20yr old chassis. Truely lipstick on a pig
The Japanese version of the Dodge Challenger was a Mitsubishi Galant, which was also sold as the Plymouth Sapporo.
@@Stona999 no that’s your wife
Everything is iver 60k these days. The z is pretty quick and stops at the drop if a dime. I think it wiuld spank most mustangs