Well, they are never taught basic arguments against their position or basic, scientific, reasonable arguments to support their position either... because if they were, they would have to teach them that their position is not based in science, fact, or reality, but instead, it's actually a very selfish position that is only based on emotion - and the whole lie concerning "pro choice" would be exposed to all the little soldiers
They are like “ look what’s written here in this big paper, that means I am correct” smh. It’s good that this is all recorded and kept in the Internet because these tiktoker ‘activists’ will be seen by the world forever. Hopefully they look back in these videos In a few years after their brain has fully developed and realize how cringy they looked with their little protest banners.
“Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to 9 months. After that, they don’t wanna know about you. They don’t wanna hear from you. No nothing! No neonatal care, no daycare, no Head Start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you’re pre-born, you’re fine, if you’re preschool, you’re fucked.”
It is typical of this generation's "group think" and inability to think for themselves. Yet, she has the arrogance and audacity to be up there screaming her ill-informed head off.
@@hexl702too5no one told the lady to protest and she's not a baby She should've armed herself with research and made better arguments before challenging Kristen If you can't handle the heat then GTFO of the kitchen
"My mother protested this 30 years ago. Why are we still protesting this." Missed opportunity for the speaker to go "Because your mother took responsibility despite her stance and chose life and had you."
This woman was so blind with confidence coming up to the podium after being so impressed with what she had written on her poster. It's hard to watch, yet so entertaining.
Remember, the point of being pro-life isn't about protecting life. They don't seem to care about foster kids, orphans, babies born in poor countries or with defects, or children of poor/homeless parents. Liberals are statistically way more likely to adopt and foster than conservatives. Conservatives don't even want to acknowledge children who might be LGBTQ, so why do they claim to support life universally only BEFORE the baby is born? Then there's all the "hush-hush" abortions that these pro-life people will have when THEIR wife or girlfriend or mistress gets pregnant. Funny how their principles disappeared at such a time of need! No, the point of being pro-life is to be anti-sex. They HATE women who are sexually active because sex = social skills = something most conservatives never have. So they try to remove abortion and birth control to "punish" young women for doing what they want.
@@krystel1040exactly. Yet they don't want others to have the privilege that they've been granted. Instead, they put themselves in a position to dictate who lives and who dies. Narcissists and death worshipping hypocrites is what they are.
You're so right, Infinite! I always liken it to the person who is admitted into an exclusive club, and then, once a member, works to implement changes in the rules to make it harder for others to join. At the very least, that's super-bad form!
No shit. The cognitive dissonance is astounding! Does this idiot realize that if her mom got her way she might have been aborted? What a clues gen z rihtard
My sweet honey, you wouldn't be here if your father kicked and punched your mother so she didn't have his child, how abortions began. She forgot to start out with that.
“It is usually futile to try and talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.” Thomas Sowell. A great example.
no she just can not argue properly ; it is logically proven that existence is bad ; cause with existence u have pain and pleasure and pain is bad and without existence no pain and no pleasure so its not good nor bad So by this logic we can conclude that having a child is immoral cause it will go thru pain while not having one is not bad cause it wont go thru pain Simple
@@gimli21 no its perfectly right ; i would love to die than live but unfortunately we don't have state assisted euthanasia centers so i have to carry on living
@J Wade take the L and have a seat because you are having a hard time following your own logic when you were questioned on your unsound logic. You aren't going to listen because you think you already know it all! Schools are dumping out some real "brilliant" graduates with zero common sense and superinflated ego's at alarming rates.
Since they denied that unborn babies are living, human beings separate from the mother. This is the root of almost every pro choice argument you will hear.
When my aunt was pregnant, planned and wanted, She was extremely happy to be pregnant. But the baby died in the stomach. My aunt died in the basement of a hospital cause she needed an abortion to get the baby out but she didn't receive the abortion, she didn't get the basic healthcare she needed cause the doctors were too busy contacting their lawyers since abortion was banned. It is a basic human right to get healthcare, why do yall wanna control women's bodies so much?
It's not too hard considering the child like level of thought put into their argument. She realized she was dealing with children and simply treated them as such.
@@deviildogg1 basic science says that a living creature is a creature that can function on its own as an individual, the life of a fetus is totally dependent on the mom, therefore it's not alive. ;)
This was my thought too. So hypocritical of alive/ born people to be for something that destroys others chance of being given what they were given themselves.
@@blondegiraffe2023 I understand but at the end of the day, no one chooses to exist or not. Parents decide one day, baby, and there you are, existing without your consent lol. Sounds stupid i know but it is how it goes.
wth? baby in the womb is not conscious, trees are also living go stand in front of them when they are coming to cut it. Anti-abortion is just sickheaded people trying to take away freedom, they also would be religious i guess which explains a lot
When your mom was in college protesting those things, the fact she didn't get her way and treat you like a "clump of cells" is the main reason you're still alive. So lady, you're welcome.
She asked why her mother was protesting the same thing 30 years ago, while she is standing there, living and breathing. Am I the only one who sees the irony in this?
Do you think pro choice means kill all fetuses? It's choice and circumstance and yet you call that girl stupid because you assume her mother would have aborted her 🙄
@Thomas Shelby So would you only be pro choice for rape and incest though? Is that a viable compromise to you? I'm guessing no. People use it for selfish reasons and you know it.
@Thomas Shelby You know who's in a "difficult situation/circumstance"? The baby that's about to be murdered by its own mother, but the term "mother" isn't accurate in those cases. Maybe "monster" would be more appropriate. Look, I get it, it's not all black and white, but take those small minded college girls as an example. The believe that if they go out, get stupid drunk and laid, if they turn up pregnant, just kill it. That's not what our creator had in mind. And yes, every life is precious.
I love how she kept constantly turning to the crowd for help. She was like "help guys this lady is making me look like a complete idiot by asking me simple questions!"😂😂😂
“Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to 9 months. After that, they don’t wanna know about you. They don’t wanna hear from you. No nothing! No neonatal care, no daycare, no Head Start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you’re pre-born, you’re fine, if you’re preschool, you’re fucked.”
The irony when she asks the question of why she is still protesting the same thing her mother protested for, the reason she's still protesting is because she didn't get aborted by her mother
@@serge6064 , that makes zero sense...you are anti-choice? You do know that means a woman can decide to keep the pregnancy going...right? Or should I say...no duh.
@@dukeblair7792 Choice is just a term pro-death people hide in. The redhead is lucky she wasnt an inconvenience at that time. Mother becomes God, she gets to decide who lives and who dies.
@@bunnylady6758 ,death of who? A clump of undeveloped cells? Are you saying that a person should be able to take human tissue, blood transfusion, or use of a womans organs without her consent? Can I use your organs if I need too?
Here's what I have never understood: If it's legal/okay to abort a "fetus", why is it considered murder if a pregnant woman is assaulted and the baby dies? They charge the assailant with "murder of an unborn child", right? So, is it murder if you really want the baby, but NOT murder if you choose to abort it?
In my opinion, the people who want to ban abortion are egoists who are not really good people. You see again and again that religious people tend to have more extreme views. On racism, sexism, the death penalty, abortion, equality and sexuality. You can see around the world that in countries where religion is in government, people's rights are most restricted. In democracies you see that people who are atheists are more in favor of more humane and morally better solutions than fundamental believers.
@@AcidGubba Regarding your thoughts on religion & governments...throughout the world, many people who claim to follow Jesus Christ are deeply involved in politics. Some try to promote their religious and moral values by supporting particular candidates or political parties. In turn, politicians often use moral or social issues to win the support of religious people. It is not uncommon for religious leaders to run for political office. And in some countries, a “Christian” denomination may even occupy a special status as a state, or national, religion. What do you think? Should followers of Jesus Christ get involved in politics? You can find the answer by looking at Jesus’ example. He said: “I set the pattern for you, that just as I did to you, you should also do.” (John 13:15) When it comes to politics, what pattern did Jesus set? Did Jesus get involved in politics? No. Jesus did not get involved in the politics of the world. Jesus did not seek political power. He refused to accept control of human governments when Satan the Devil offered him “all the kingdoms of the world.” (Matthew 4:8-10) a On another occasion, people who recognized Jesus’ leadership qualities tried to push him into politics. The Bible reports: “Jesus, knowing that they were about to come and seize him to make him king, withdrew again to the mountain all alone.” (John 6:15) Jesus did not yield to the will of the people. Instead, he refused to get politically involved. Jesus did not take sides on political issues. For example, in Jesus’ day the Jews resented paying taxes to the Roman government and viewed these as an unjust burden. When they tried to get Jesus to take sides on the issue, he did not get into a political debate about whether such taxes were just. He told them: “Pay back Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God.” (Mark 12:13-17) He remained neutral on the political issue but showed that the taxes demanded by the Roman civil authority, which represented Caesar, should be paid. At the same time, he showed that obedience to secular authority was limited. A person was not to give the State what was due to God, including devotion and worship.-Matthew 4:10; 22:37, 38. Jesus promoted a heavenly government, God’s Kingdom. (Luke 4:43) He did not get involved in politics because he knew that God’s Kingdom, not human governments, would achieve what God wants for the earth. (Matthew 6:10) He understood that God’s Kingdom would not operate through human governments but would replace them.-Daniel 2:44. Did first-century Christians get involved in politics? No. Jesus’ followers obeyed his command to be “no part of the world.” (John 15:19) They followed his example and remained separate from the world’s politics. (John 17:16; 18:36) Rather than get involved in political matters, they did the work Jesus commanded-preaching and teaching about God’s Kingdom.-Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 10:42. First-century Christians put obedience to God first in their lives, but they also knew that they had to respect secular authorities. (Acts 5:29; 1 Peter 2:13, 17) They obeyed the laws and paid taxes. (Romans 13:1, 7) While they did not get involved in politics, they did make use of legal protections and services that governments provided.-Acts 25:10, 11; Philippians 1:7. Early Christians and politics-what secular history reports “Christians refused to share certain duties of Roman citizens. . . . They would not hold political office.”-On the Road to Civilization-A World History, page 238. “There is not a shred of evidence which would allow us to think that Jesus had military/political ambitions, and . . . the same applies to the disciples.”-Jesus and Judaism, page 231. “To a Christian his religion was something apart from and superior to political society; his highest allegiance belonged not to Caesar but to Christ.”-Caesar and Christ, page 647. “[The apostle] Paul was willing to use his Roman citizenship to demand the protections of the judicial process due him, but he engaged in no lobbying on the public policy issues of the day. . . . Though they believed they were obligated to honor the governing authorities, the early Christians did not believe in participating in political affairs.”-Beyond Good Intentions-A Biblical View of Politics, pages 122-123. “There was a conviction widely held among Christians that none of their number should hold office under the state . . . As late as the beginning of the third century Hippolytus said that historic Christian custom required a civic magistrate to resign his office as a condition of joining the Church.”-A History of Christianity, Volume I, page 253. Christian neutrality today The Bible clearly shows that neither Jesus nor his early followers got involved in politics.
@ Okay, your comment is very long. I will write several answers so that I don't have different topics in one comment. I think that religion plays a big role in politics, especially in the USA. About 10-15% of Americans are agnostics and atheists, but in politics everyone says they are a believer. It is quite unlikely that everyone there is religious, I think some say it so as not to risk their electorate. But do you think it is good that people have to pretend to be religious so as not to be excluded by religious voters? I think one of people's great achievements is to have secular countries. If you look in countries where religion is in government, people have fewer rights than in western democratic countries. There are also studies that show that fundamentally religious people tend to have more extreme views on issues such as abortion, racism, the death penalty, equality, sexuality and morality. I used to be a Christian myself and active in the church, but I left when I was 20 and my views were much more restrictive than they are today. I come from Germany and when I look at European history over the last 1000 years, the Christian faith has played a very large role. We wouldn't have the rights we have today if religion had as much influence as it did in the 16th century, for example. In my opinion, we should definitely prevent religious people from getting into government. I want to live in a country where scientific findings are more valuable than any faith. You just have to look at what new findings religions have brought in the last 1000 years and what new findings science has brought. Would you rather live in a country where faith decides what is right and what is wrong?
There's a big difference between patience and calmness and self-assured self-righteousness. She's also editing this video as a bully onstage who creates her own audience outrage.
"Because some people dont want to accept the natural consequences of heterosexual sex being inconvenient by another human life but want to selfishly choose to end human life in order to have their whims met." Well said Mdm speaker
It’s said you gotta talk this in the politically correct way. When it’s clearly “I want to have sex all day, without the responsibility of bearing a child”. You basically choose sex over someone else’s life
Its just simple explanation.. thats what happen you get so much power and freedom.. they forgot it comes at price a lot of country know USA usd control the market many just waiting right the time to start ww3.. putin just make the first move
The lady on the podium is forgetting that up to the 6th month a baby depends on the mother for its survival. Which means that if something goes wrong in the pregnancy, DENYING ABORTION will end up with LETTING the MOTHER DIE. This is not theory, it's the uncomfortable truth of Savita Halappanavar's, Valentina Milluzzo's and Izabela Sajbor's death. It could have been the case of Andrea Prudente, but luckily for her, her husband managed to transfer her in another country. So yes, we are talking of living beings, but still "potential" persons.
@S floating okay first of all it’s not true that ALL pregnancy complications WILL end up with the mothers death unless the baby is aborted. In those cases where the mothers life is threatened I think basically everyone agrees it would be okay to abort them. Also to your last point about the baby in the womb being a “potential” person what defines a person under your definition?
"The reason we are still having this argument(30 years later) is because some people don't want to accept the natural consequences that come from having sex & be inconvenienced by another human life. " BOOM! She is such a rock star- LOVE her bold truth bombs.
@@floatingsara I don't know any pro-lifers that are against contraception 🤔. Unless are you referring to the Catholic faith? I am not catholic, but I heard they frown on birth control in theology
@N A if this is the line you are willing to stand on I will accept your terms but that number is so infinitesimally small in comparison to the overall number of abortions I doubt you are willing to accept that. I know many women who have had abortions and not a single one of those pregnancies was caused by rape or incest. This is an ignorant argument.
@N A it’s 1%…are you ok with getting rid of 99% of abortions? Edit - and the funny thing is you say I don’t have evidence…you are probably going to ask me to cite sources which I can do but for some reason you decided to have an opinion about something you know nothing about because you have taken zero effort into looking into it yourself…pathetic.
I was APPALLED when someone yelled out it’s living at 30 weeks 🙄🙄🙄 I had a micro preemie 9 months ago who was born at 26 weeks! I was able to feel him movie and kick before that and he was born VERY MUCH ALIVE!
Oh my goodness, that’s so early! I hope he survived and managed to live a healthy life ❤ The unfortunate truth is that many extremely premature babies do not survive outside mum. Babies in utero need the mother in order to survive. That is why it needs to be the mother’s choice on whether to carry to term. This poor woman who thinks she’s trying to “save babies” just doesn’t realise or cannot comprehend that reality.
@@teresadwight206 he’ll be a year old is less than a week! It’s very possible for babies even younger than him to survive! We made lots of friends while we were in the Nicu with our baby and were SHOCKED at how many babies were born Even earlier than he was and they survived! I think Kristan has a very good understanding when she talks. She’s very well educated and always comes with facts.
@@Skilletfan that’s such great news! People have the misconception that anything before 30 weeks isn’t a living baby. If that was the case I wouldn’t have an almost 1 year old and your friend wouldn’t have those I bet adorable twins! Gosh I remember the first kick and researching everything to make sure I wasn’t just feeling bubbles 🤣🤣
I love how she is so proud of herself like when a small child thinks they've done something amazing but they have actually just drawn all over the walls.
@@keylinlarson108 How did you like the failed red wave last November?…. Pundits say pro-choice women made the difference….. Obviously, we don’t depend on young girls with glitter signs…..
Remember, the point of being pro-life isn't about protecting life. They don't seem to care about foster kids, orphans, babies born in poor countries or with defects, or children of poor/homeless parents. Liberals are statistically way more likely to adopt and foster than conservatives. Conservatives don't even want to acknowledge children who might be LGBTQ, so why do they claim to support life universally only BEFORE the baby is born? Then there's all the "hush-hush" abortions that these pro-life people will have when THEIR wife or girlfriend or mistress gets pregnant. Funny how their principles disappeared at such a time of need! No, the point of being pro-life is to be anti-sex. They HATE women who are sexually active because sex = social skills = something most conservatives never have. So they try to remove abortion and birth control to "punish" young women for doing what they want.
@@notaprogamer2782 Consequences to what? A basic lawful medical procedure like abortion? Stop being pro-life and try being smart enough to say something meaningful for once. Be worth your own existence.
In America most women who have abortion are already a mother of at least one child. They have abortion for the sake of their already existing family/children. Let that sink in.
@@mattewclubb5882 I am But thats because they actually had the choice to get an abortion Love isnt that admirable if they were forced to love me Also , the fact that I whouldnt want to be aborted is not excuse . Its their body and in the one using it without permission .
And she said the main truth. This focktards want to fock around and have no responsibilities. And even if they have to kill some one to keep focking then they are ready for it.
She didn’t have to state anything. She just kept throwing the girls statements back at her and beating her up with them. That was a classic battle of wits with a completely unarmed person.
variously around 22 weeks is when we outlaw an elective abortion. Yes, we outlaw abortions for no good medical reason in 41+ US states. That is a legal definition and it's based on a medical definition, unlike the irrational and non-rational "life begins when dad came" of the "pro-life" crowd.
They had to write it down somewhere. How can she make an argument without prompts or poster signs from her friends? I mean its not like she's an adult or.... Oh wait.
That student looked like she had mental disorders. Look at the expressions on her face. The expressions are consistent with those of a 6 year old child.
And, her mother's talking points. 🙄 I'm shocked her mother gave birth to her. She even talked about her mother protesting the same exact issue 30 years ago.
@@aspirecan4829 The fruit doesn't fall far from the tree. Mother and daughter know exactly who they are and the Holy Bible explains it. 1 Samuel 15:23 (KJV) For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
I say that any young lady that wishes to have an abortion should be allowed to once she assisted in the abortion procedure and saw the result , they will change their mind quite quick after that , only complete psychopaths can perform an abortion and not feel sick for days afterward , and such people shouldn't have children anyway
i just lost 3% of my brain cells capacity by listening to this "let me read my sign" girl, and my respect to the woman behind the podium to endure so much stupidity !
Her citing all the “signs” in the audience as being the data to back up her claims was absolutely priceless!!! These people are just so far gone from reality… I actually feel bad for college kids. Their brains have been melted by propaganda.
Freedom isn't being able to decide if you want to be pregnant or not when you already are. Freedom is having the choice to make the decision to engage in the act that creates the baby.
Freedom from consequence and from duty is a bad thing. It ruins societies. People should not be free from the direct consequences of their actions, and parents should not be free from their duty to love and care for their children. I can't understand why this needs to be explained to people, but apparently it does.
@@povilzem it is not fair to assign responsibility to women in this case. for one it ignores cases of assault. and second many women take the responsible precautions by using contraceptives so you can not say they intended for this to happen.
Pills are not a hundred percent effective. Some women knew that but still chose to have sex. And the consequence is getting pregnant. Would it be responsible of them to end a life although they knew the risk? (This does not include sexual assult of course.)
“Women need to be held accountable for abortion!…. But Jesus takes accountability away just like that! (snaps finger)”…. Aren’t fundies undermining their own point?….
This speaker is calm, articulate, and forces the pro choicer to stay in the realm of facts. I love it, and will he be finding more of her content. Have a like.
More importantly, she has moral confidence. That comes from knowing what you're supporting and knowing what you oppose. What often seems impressively articulate is not sophisticated language at all but plain, absolute declarations which permit no ambiguity. I think it's worth pointing out here because oftentimes you'll see conservatives on other issues strive to be articulate, but in the sense of using sophisticated language to "hide the ball" or to be cleverly indirect. This is often because the person doesn't want to speak to the core of their position for fear of being called a name. But one only fears the enemy's taunts when one doesn't have clarity or confidence about the core principle one is advocating. There should be no cause for this for conservatives. Progressives are pro-death. They desire for any child who survives abortion to be put on puberty blockers. Saving that, they'd prefer they be homosexual. Saving that they'd prefer they undertake an eternal adolescence of masturbation. Most of the progressives you encounter are in the midst of that kind of life. A childless life seeking novelty and trivia rather than renewal and meaning. Conservatives should never come to a topic of debate against a progressive position with concerns that its possible that the progressive could be right about the core issue. If a progressive argument seems credible, you just need to pull back a bit and see what the argument is designed to accomplish. Nine times out of ten it's a fallacious trick and the remaining one-in-ten times it's a morally abominable conceit.
These people should be killed i swear. I'd rather have a new generation of potential good people than an old generation of bitter child killing witches. And if it were up to me, i'd make that choice any day. One could say that they're just indoctrinated but i say ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES. IGNORANCE IS NOT AN EXCUSE.
There were several times you could see the protester's hamster slip the wheel. Just "duhhhhh ummmmm daaahhhhh". Kudos to the speaker for not verbally b*slapping that chick.
The “I’m a clump of cells” comeback was perfect. She was speechless. Their arguments are baseless. They’re children who don’t understand morals and could easily be convinced to do anything. Devil’s lackeys
What’s hilarious is how this girl says something and then has a smug smile on her face like she just obliterated her opponent. And then the woman on stage asks yet another question that dumbfounds smug-girl, who just repeats the cycle of revealing her stupidity. This is what happens when people jump into an ideology but are unable to defend it. It’s emotion without reason.
She probably won’t be standing there if her mom successfully protested. Edits: Some people take my comment too seriously, I get that pro-abortion doesn't mean someone is going to have an abortion, that's common logic. No need to bring this argument out. Also, my comment goes both ways based on how to interpret it. She probably won't need to stand there protesting for abortion if her mom successfully protested...because abortion was successfully protested. 😂 Understand the humor, please.
I like how they compare an Infant needing another body to develop to a fetus who is literally attached to the hosts body and can't develop without being attached. One of those does not need help by being attached or connected to it's host to develop. To compare the two was silly AF. This looks staged. Like an episode of Jerry Springer. The only reason the crazy win the anti choice arguement is because they have zero emotion for the people who have to provide that umbilical cord. It's ok if we die or suffer so long as they feel good with their God. Oh and lady, pro choice means we don't force womb owners to sacrifice their wellbeing for another human being when they choose not to. American laws have never banned giving birth so your fear mongering to say we are ashamed of the word abortion isn't true. See? Abortion abortion abortion. I can say it all I want and feel zero shame. Sorry you feel guilty if you aren't controlling womb owners bodies. That's pretty dictator ma'am. Edit: notice the comments as soon as I said something? Bots gonna bot. The far right womb controllers are using bots to force others to live their lifestyles. Just like trump did with Twitter in 2016. Half truths and fear mongering is what this Speaker is doing. It's easy to control a narrative when you have multiple fake accounts to keep engagement high.
Her logic is being overwritten by group mentality , you can clearly see the group actions dictating her response instead of using her brain and actually thinking about it.Also everytime they cheer subconsciously it meant validation for her and she doubled down.
Collectivism and cultural Marxism. She looks to the group for direction while having no actual self identity or opinion of her own. Just a hollow shell. As the communists loved to say “there is no I, there is only we” it’s breeding idiots in the school systems clearly. Completely indoctrinated.
@@vlakatvlakatn1465 Well I don't know if this was meant for my comment but it is more of an observation based on what we see in the video , maybe it isn't what is actually happening but it certainly is a good guess or opinion from what we see since it isn't anything too far out there it is basic group mentality that everyone is guilty at some point and more so when younger and the validation part , I mean it is a normal thing everyone takes part in everyday life whether you notice it or not. Nothing I said would be that crazy when describing a teen or young adult.I don't get where you get this projection thing from aside from just saying it because you don't agreed with my observation , which is fine.
its funny becuse when these ppl build such a group mentality instead of developing a thicker skin that when the barbarian who never run out of stones eat there own they commit suicide once knew a girl on twitter who ran a hate mob then it turned on her then she killed herself these ppl are not designed for the criticism of politics.there by products of the neandrathols that need there group hunts they develop like wolfs that once they get banished and its akways personal shit with these ppl becuse there emotionally impulsive.that when there cult leader tells them there out they cant hunt and die.just look at the men there stick sn opposding Chad watch that group break up over him.
did you see the part near like 2 minutes 20 seconds where she was actually listening and her mind looked like it was trying to start firing? then someone says something that gets her attention and it dies
Women have aborted unwanted pregnancies since the beginning of time...known herbs can cause this. It's the modern women that seeks assistance is what makes it murder and causing death.
Her mom, 30 years ago, was protesting in demand of the right to have an abortion... yet somehow the student who can't answer questions, but only emote, is alive...
She is brilliant. This is how you win when you are right and you know it. Stay grounded, allow your opposition to speak and have them come to the conclusion that you guide them to.
@@spltndddpairofaces680 Reading your comment feels like getting inside the mind of a psychopath. They always find a way to rationalize their inhumane and selfish choices.
You do know that they pay actors to say what they want to say? What beter argument then to show that your opponent doesnt know anything about the discussion at hand? How much money should i pay you to say that eating poop with hot sause tastes like kentucky fried chicken?
Because money. It's about money. Nothing special. Hospitals and clinics probably supports abortion in order for them to make money out of those people who lust a lot
They argue to continually convince themselves how right they are. Why they have such shallow understandings. Any real understanding would destroy the lie they live.
Absolutely. I believe that this is a societal result from years of "like" buttons replacing one's need for actual research. When people affirm your thoughts and opinions, then your thoughts and opinions must be factual.
@@TheOneDono lmao that's not how that played out. She didn't know the answer, she was fumbling trying to come up with some bullshit to thing to say, and all the speaker did was make an objective statement of truth. She didn't know the answer. And there was only one emotion person out of the two. You are right about one thing though. You can't argue with facts. And the only one armed with those was the speaker.
She keeps looking over to her friends for answers. Perfect example of how getting all of your info through an echo chamber will cause you to be clueless and uneducated.
@@mannypacu6460 Yep it sounded like the price is right gameshow with everybody yelling their price/opinion and she is looking around trying to figure out which opinion may or may not be the closest to a correct answer 🥴
Acorn seed is not a tree Just as a fertilized egg is not a human being Since both need to be implanted to have a chance at becoming a tree or human being.
She keeps turning around to the audience like a kid in class who gets called on &doesn’t know the answer waiting for her friends to tell her the right one 😂 EDIT: y’all’s responses are priceless 🤣
Democrats minds are very childlike, they have all these dreams but no actual solutions that work to achieve these dreams. They constantly contradict themselves like calling their opponents racists and then say the most racist things ever like, "You aint black if you dont vote for me" "Poor people are just as smart as white people" and one of my favorites minorities do not have access to things because of their race, like a govt issued ID!
"My mom was having this very debate 30 years ago." Had her mom ever aborted her, then she would've have been there to defend abortion. Here's a haunting thought: How many people would be on a stage somewhere, defending abortion today...except their mothers aborted them 20+ years ago?
@O B Because a sperm cell isnt actually a human organism, it's just a gamete. It becomes a fully diploid chromosomed human organism when it is united with the egg which results in a fetus aka first instance of human life in development. An acorn isnt a tree but what grows out of it when planted is a tree (sapling). In the same way, a sperm cell isnt a human but what grows out of it when united with an egg is human.
@O B yes, sperm are cells, but they have the same genetic code as the male, meaning they are an extension of his body. In the moment of conception though a new being with a whole different genetic code its formed, and therefore, its a different individual.
But her responses were not thoughtful or courageous. They were pro-life rhetoric thrown out by a self-rightous speaker. She thinks she's right so no one else's opinion or thought process could possibly be worthwhile.
@@queent3343 It wasn't thrown out rhetoric. They were valid questions, which the student could not answer. Period! If the student really was pro choice enough to get up there to speak, she should've been more prepared to have come back answers to the speaker. All she wanted to do was read her sign , and that's it. She was clueless to any questions that would be asked of her. What did she expect ,that the speaker wasn't going to ask her to elaborate. That's exactly what she did ask her to do, and she couldn't.
@@Clauderoberts29 Look up my previous post about Roe V. Wade. The Supreme Court says 24 to 26 weeks like viable outside of the womb. That's the law until it's overturned. If you don't believe that, then that's on you. I believe a woman has a right to make a choice under that law. That choice is what gets all the religious types all roiled up because to them there is no choice.
She'd make a good mother. Probably is... I would think the Jen Psaki lookalike might not be, but in all honesty, she's still a kid. She'll hopefully mature eventually. Like, we've all been teens and couldn't formulate a coherent thought on our own at some point. It's part of being human...
Remember, the point of being pro-life isn't about protecting life. They don't seem to care about foster kids, orphans, babies born in poor countries or with defects, or children of poor/homeless parents. Liberals are statistically way more likely to adopt and foster than conservatives. Conservatives don't even want to acknowledge children who might be LGBTQ, so why do they claim to support life universally only BEFORE the baby is born? Then there's all the "hush-hush" abortions that these pro-life people will have when THEIR wife or girlfriend or mistress gets pregnant. Funny how their principles disappeared at such a time of need! No, the point of being pro-life is to be anti-sex. They HATE women who are sexually active because sex = social skills = something most conservatives never have. So they try to remove abortion and birth control to "punish" young women for doing what they want.
@@americanhero8606 who cares whether you are left or right wing...man or woman..God creates life in this manner which is why he hates fornication outside marriage . You are bought at a price and have no right over yourself let alone to kill an unborn. We have lost all morality and rely on what we think is correct. Do you honestly think we know better than God.
I tell ya Kristan, you have such extreme patience with these ignorant and uneducated college students which is why you are so good at what you do! It's scary to think they dont even know basic embryology in this day and age!
Yes, old child hood friends of mine saying it is just a clump of cells when their mother is a ultrasound tech was jaw dropping to me. If I were in charge of the curriculum for public school they would have been exposed to a lot of actual ultrasound images and videos plus each developmental phase.
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Well, the forced-birthers would be experts on patience….. they had to accept abortion for 50 years…. And she’ll have to keep on being patient because abortion hasn’t gone anywhere….. It’s still legal and available to 70% of the American people…..
@@mike_404 lol dummy!….. This video makes you focus on ONE woman….. While you’re forgetting the MILLIONS of other women who still get abortions and vote for choice….. They keep reproductive freedom alive…. This video is made for a MAGA-boy’s hindbrain….. it’s the equivalent of saying “hey look, shiny objects over here!”…..
Retired physician here, trained in obstetrics/gynecology and pathology. Some who support abortion hold to the ridiculous notions that a fetus is not a baby or that an unborn baby isn’t human until it’s born. Others supporting abortion claim that life only begins when a baby takes its first breath at birth. They cite the Genesis account of God breathing life into the man whom He created. But these people conveniently ignore that in the Biblical account, God utilized no egg, no sperm, and no womb when He created Adam from dust and Eve from Adam’s rib. Unborn babies, however, are a totally different matter, for they are very much alive in the womb. They develop, move and grow, cardiac motion is detected by ultrasound by five-six weeks, they suck their thumbs, hiccup, and though they receive oxygen and nutrients from the mother via the umbilical cord, they still “breathe” small amounts of amniotic fluid, FOR GOD HAS ALREADY GIVEN THEM LIFE IN THE WOMB. How can unborn babies move and grow, etc., if they are not alive in the womb? Yes, babies take their first breath of AIR when they are born, but they are most definitely ALIVE BEFORE they do so. Life begins at conception. Abortion is the murdering of innocent human life. Jesus does not mention abortion by name in any of His teachings. Therefore, some folks take that to mean that mankind may kill innocent, unborn babies through abortion at will. How utterly absurd! Such people either conveniently ignore or are unfamiliar with the Scripture that states: HANDS THAT SHED INNOCENT BLOOD ARE AN ABOMINATION UNTO GOD (PROVERBS 6:16-17). This passage certainly indicates that those who shed the blood of innocent, unborn babies through abortion, or who condone such heinous acts, are ABOMINATIONS unto God. Pro-choicers often cite Numbers 5 as “evidence” for abortion. In this chapter according to the KJV, the priest conducts a ritual to test for adultery, whereby a guilty woman is cursed: “The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell” (v. 21). Neither pregnancy nor abortion are specifically mentioned. On the other hand, the NIV implies miscarriage: “may the LORD cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.” It is God Who causes the miscarriage, not man. The passage DOES NOT grant mankind permission to perform abortions. Pro-choicers also quote Hosea 13:16 as “evidence” for abortion. This passage describes the punishment that Samaria will suffer for rebelling against God: "they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up" (KJV). God destroyed the infants along with the adults, because He knew that when the infants grew to adulthood, they would be just as rebellious as their parents; in God's sight, those infants were not innocent. God would have none of that, so He destroyed them all, regardless of age. Harsh? Yes, but God is sovereign and holy and must be obeyed. As the Creator, God gives life and takes away life as He chooses. The Scripture said: "the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD" (Job 1:21b KJV). That DOES NOT mean we may take away life any time that suits us. We have NO permission from God to abort unwanted, unborn babies at will. Therefore, the passage above in Hosea has nothing to do with abortion. DO NOT apply human thoughts and actions to God. As God says, "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts" (Isaiah 55:8-9 KJV).
"Life begins at conception." I doubt you are a physician since biologists/scientists normally don't use such ill-defined and ambiguous language. Your above statement has no definitive meaning! Are you saying that the conception is already a human being??? Most conceptions will not result in a successful birth, So are you saying that most people will die before being born??? Science/biology destroys the belief that the conception is already a human being SINCE 2 or more human beings can come from the same conception/zygote. EDUCATE YOURSELF. Take a course on EMBRYOLOGY! 😀
@@mrsW- Obviously coco lied about being a physician Since "life begins at conception" Has no definitive meaning. Human cellular began before conception Since the live zygote didn't just miraculously appear out of thin air BUT came from already existing live human cells. Also most conceptions will not result in a successful birth. To believe that the conception/zygote is already a human being Is to believe most people will die before being born. A physician would know about the high rate of failed conceptions.
@denniswakabayashi9000 So, are you implying that there are no Christian biologists? I like how the majority of biologists who actually got an education will agree that fetuses are humans. Hints the reason why it's called a fetus. Also, in an earlier reply, I believe it was you who called a human fetus a parasite. So how could someone with such an absurd statement claim this wonderfully displayed statement false? Do you too believe that a child is just an exceserary as many other murderers do?
@@HaydenD1776 Science/biology cannot tell us IF or WHEN the developing fetus becomes a person Since we are biologically different since we breathe through our lungs and do not receive nutrients from an umbilical cord attached to a person. When personhood is attained is a social construct where it's expressed in our laws And outside the realm of science/biology to answer. The fetus has never been recognized and treated as a person under the Constitution Where this current US Supreme Court affirmed that precedence when allowing doctor assisted abortions into the 2nd trimester in Mississippi (Dobbs). US Supreme Court does not view abortion as murder.
I like how a few of the students that are being shown on camera are trying to hold in their laughs. Ridiculous how the pro choice girl is avoiding questions...
Yes, because this would be a huge, potentially the largest, scientific discovery we’ve ever made, not because that life has value or personhood supplanting that of a woman….
Life can be single celled or multicellular. Humans are meant to have many cells, other organism may only be meant to have 1. Other organisms can be alive in a single cell but a human cell on it’s own should not be valued as much as an entire individual. You shed cells everyday, do you mourn for their deaths?
That girl acted like it must be so because it was written on her poster. At the end, when she could not answer the question, she deflected and became angry. She is still protesting the same thing her mother protested because she was born since her mother did not abort her.
@@rah1721 satanism, selfishness, self worship. They sacrifice their own babies for convenience. Their choice was having sex. Abortion is them denying God and His order. Them placing themselves in His place. It is sickening
It is easy to be passionate about something when no one has made you face your own ignorance. You could tell this was the first time for her by how much she was taken aback in this exchange. "Oh I havent thought about that!"
I was one of those students in the ‘70’s that believed in the argument that abortion was eliminating a clump of cells. Then I became pregnant with my first child, and that changed my perception. So I started looking at why ending human life in the womb had become acceptable, and came to the conclusion that it was about convenience. That disregard for human life shook me to the core, and I believe now that it has corrupted our culture.
I was brought up by a feminist mother and surrounded by left wing friends and it took sone deprogramming, but I eventually came to a strong believe that killing a fetus, except where the mother's life is threatened by it, is wrong. Abortion is a euphemism. All the best to you.
@@chelseapoet3664You never have to intentionally kill the unborn in order to save the mother’s life. The unborn baby either dies as an unintended, unpreventable side effect of treating an ectopic pregnancy, or the baby is simply delivered prematurely. In cases of premature delivery, the baby may not survive, but the baby is at least given a fighting chance.
@@chelseapoet3664 So I guess that you are not a Christian. The Bible says that life begins at the first breath and that fetuses are only of value to the parents. That is why Evangelicals until 1980 regarded caring about insentient fetuses as a quaint Catholic idea and both anti-Biblical and immoral. They were horrified by the deaths of thousands of women in unsafe abortions and campaigned to legalise it, preaching from pulpits and welcoming Roe v Wade. Back in those days, Evangelicals had some morality instead of it being a political issue on which to win votes and converts. Why has basic human morality become the province of the left-wing when it was once non-partisan?
@@Illawong The Bible doesn't say that, what you mention happened only to Adam, the first man. To complement, follow a verse below about life at conception. Psalm 139:13-16 NIV "For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be."
@@kleberamado What I am referring to is traditional Jewish and Christian thought, not my own opinion. The view that life begins with the first breath has been incorporated into the law in Christian countries where "personhood" is granted at birth. You cannot be murdered until you have taken your first breath. It is not just Genesis. These are just a few of the other references to breath meaning life. Genesis 2:7 "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."; Psalms 33:6 "By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, And by the breath of His mouth all their host."; Ezekiel 37:9 "Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord God; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army..."; Job 34:14-15 "If he should set his heart to it and gather to himself his spirit and his breath, all flesh would perish together, and man would return to dust.". Your Psalms quote only talks about God creating life. It says nothing about when the "life" of that creation begins. The fact that God is said to have created everything has nothing to do with whether we can terminate it. God is also believed to have knitted the fetuses of cows in their mothers' wombs. Does that mean that we cannot eat cows? When "life" starts is really irrelevant to the question. A 3-yo child is definitely alive, no matter whether "life" started at conception or birth. A 3-yo child has no right to use another person's body without that person's consent. If it would die without an organ donation we can still not compel that donation. Once we reach birth we have the right to control our own bodies and decide when to volunteer them to become parents. All rights are granted because they are valuable to the recipient of the right. We have laws against murder and theft because we value our lives and property and will suffer if we lose them. We have laws against discrimination on the basis of race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. because we will suffer if we are discriminated against. No rights are needed that are not wanted by the recipient of the right. A woman is a sentient being who will suffer if she is forced into parenthood against her will. An embryo is insentient and so is totally unaware of its existence, cannot possibly suffer, and could not care less about any "rights". Therefore, rights are ONLY needed by the woman and not by the embryo. In any case, although you have the right to use religious beliefs in your own life, you have no right to impose them on other more rational people.
You can identify a generation that grew up on Twitter because their focus during an argument or debate is solely on quippy one-liners. Even if it doesn't actually contribute to the point being made.
You can identify someone who is used to You Tube videos, letting skillful editing create a false scenario so a self-righteous bully behind the microphone gets to come off as some prophetess.
@@johnwattdotca you can identify when someone is delusional when they miss the point of said video and are not able to identify who was attempting to bully who.
Sure, clam in tone, but committed a logical fallacy straight up. The issue isn't "is it living", after all plants are living things, it's that this is still an extension of a woman's body and within her rights to decide to go forward or not. And it is not "living" enough that it's going to suffer a loss anymore than killing a plant will cost it loss. She committed a strawman fallacy, calm or not. The girl simply wasn't schooled enough to know how to throw it back in her face.
@@RayWalker-pythonic well at the moment, when a male sperm cell enters it its not an extension of the women's body anymore, so after cell division starts your argument is invalid. FYI im personally pro abortion, especially late abortion because its a great source for human stem cells and embryos for experiments on cell tissues.
Yet not a single one of these Anti-Abortion advocates is EVER a scientist. If ANY of them were, their would be no debate. You cannot determine where life begins, period. Science, tells us so. You cannot determine when conscience begins, science tells us so. Not a single one of you anti-abortion advocates paid any attention in your high school science classes. You play petty word games that work well on the psyches of the mentally feeble because you cannot debate facts, everything you say is based on your feelings. And all of you need a safe space to circle jerk one another or else you get DESTROYED in the face of mass public opinion that WOMEN HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE HOW AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THEIR BODY! Until that baby comes out, there is nothing anyone else can do to tell them what they can or can not do. Suck it up Snowflakes! You have ZERO respect for Women and ZERO respect for babies, you just WANT to tell Women what they can or can not do because the wretched fantasies in your mind are far more disgusting that any abortion choice has EVER been. This woman is a hero, and you have to edit, clip, cut and frame your scenes to make the majority of the crowd of protestors look as if they are dumb. You can try as hard as you want, it doesn't work.
"It's a basic human right to have an abortion." If like to know where that has been ratified. And according to our declaration of independence, we actually have an inalienable right to life in the USA, and yet, that right has been violated for so many precious little ones. The two are most certainly mutually exclusive.
Would love a more serious conversation between two more disciplined individuals with good morale standings. Christians seem to be becoming oppressive again when it comes to their beliefs. The Jewish people, for the majority, do not believe life comes to fruition at conception.
I love how she’s so proud of herself for making a sign. Imagine if she would’ve been in the generation that sent people to the moon or smashed polio or defeated the nazis. She’s just happy she can read and write.
Her generation is too weak and selfish to try and defeat polio, go head-to-head with REAL nazis, or go to the moon. They are too addicted to things like Reddit social media dopamine and having the correct and acceptable talking points.
We don't know for a certainty that she can either read or write. Someone else could have made that poster but this one is better-looking so they chose her to be their sacrificial front woman.
Hi man, I just wanted to ask you what makes this different from a fetus. And whether this video should be criminalized ruclips.net/video/araeHtN_3Lk/видео.html
@@MrLionheart777 Because to them it's so obvious, that they're unprepared to deal with basic and outdated arguments because they've never had the chance to some up with a counterargument in detail
@@perfidiousalbion9975 Yeah, if you've never dissected it in detail before, otherwise you'll get overwhelmed or confused, which is a big nono during a conversation like these
If a baby is sustainable when he's inside the womb because he needs help to stay alive, what about when he's laying in a crib with no food or water and someone has to sustain it when it's out of the womb??
This young lady was not even able to answer ANY of her questions! Was looking for an argument with NO facts! I’m happy that this issue is going to the states for us to truly have conversation and vote on the matter.
In 99% of cases where these radicals protest, all you need to do is ask them to back up their protest with facts, and ask them basic questions. They can't back up their point. This speaker did a magnificent job doing that!
@@jdgolf499 My view is that it is a fact that all babies deserve to be wanted, loved, and cared for. And it is also a fact that unwanted babies that are born do not receive this most of the time and there is an overall negative impact to society. My pro abortion stance stems from individual and societal well being. Life is more than a concept of a living being.
What BS did she call out? They talked past each other. The mature public speaker at the podium kept her cool against a flustered teenager in over her head, but the former asked absurd questions that she herself failed to answer. For example, she asked how a fetus is "living" but then failed to acknowledge that a fetus is a parasite that forms in response to alien matter (sperm) entering the body. In the end, she reduced the argument to women shouldn't have sex if they don't want to get pregnant. That's not her choice to make for other women.
My favorite moment ever was when I was in the 9th grade. Every student had to pick a political topic and research it as thoroughly as possible. I did something on taxes...I honestly don't remember. A classmate of mine, who was ardently pro-choice, chose abortion to no one's surprise. At the end of the semester, however, she had become pro-life after interviewing people and doctors who had performed abortions but decided not to in the future. The ultrasounds were heart-rending.
When my Dr. thought I was 8 weeks pregnant he wanted me to have my first ultrasound which revealed I was actually 6 weeks pregnant. Before the technician said anything, I saw a little white spot pulsating on the screen and she confirmed to me it was my son's heartbeat. It was amazing! Also, whatever happened to the babies choice, they don't get one! All their "basic human rights" are stripped away from them.
That is why they refuse to acknowledge it is a life. If they just call it a "clump of cells" then they can ignore that they are refusing to let that human have a choice
This is why the mainstream society is degeneracy , the conservative is of good moral values and the right way. Sadly, young people love to seek pleasures.
Exactly right. And these women are feminists. Do they not care about all the FEMALE children, FEMALE fetuses, and FEMALE clumps of cells they are killing?
It's your self-righteous attitude that needs educating. You don't understand the basic nature of life. You have to respect the living first, and that's the woman. Abortions have been happening since the beginning of time, and that's men punching or kicking a woman so they don't have another child.
This is why public debates about such topics are a bad idea. Too much depends on how evenly matched the two debatees are. Public debates are ultimately nothing more but contests in rhetoric.
@N A lol her own viewpoint lol what a joke. She can't even make an argument how can it be her viewpoint. It's someone else's viewpoint that she was convinced as correct.
@N A lol who did I insult? What did I say that was toxic? Is it that I called someone a liberal? That's a political affiliation not an insult lol. And liberals tend to be pro abortion so assuming one is a liberal based on their stance on abortion is not a big stretch.
Well, when the brain is hardwired to believe one thing, it's very hard to unwire it. It takes years sometimes. To acknowledge the truth, she would have to destroy those neurological pathways she formed in her brain years ago. Even when presented with the facts, people will still deny it.
Best I've ever seen. She nailed every point. The girl standing there alive protesting knowing her mother wanted to Abort her... How SAD is that ... I hope when her and her mom march side by side with abortion signs the mom has the "I'm with stupid >" shirt on pointing at her daughter, wishing so bad she could have aborted her. Man the disappointment that girl must have been to that mother to still think that way.
The "Psaki Look- alike" needs to ask her mother....Mom why didn't you abort me? you could have saved college tuition dollars that you could have used to buy more cigarettes, Camels that is!!!
“My mom argued for this issue in college and I’m fighting for the same issue today.” So in other words your mom decided against abortion at least once, consider yourself lucky ma’am
This is actually a good point. If she had a little bit of sense in her, she'd realise that her mother fought for the right to not let her into this world, her mother wanted to kill before she was even born. And that is cruel.
“I couldn’t make anything even remotely resembling a coherent argument for my position and against yours, so I really can’t understand why you don’t accept my point of view and continue to insist on making me listen to yours. That really like, sucks, and stuff”
Imagine being so passionate about something, that you've not even thought about basic arguments against your position.
Because rhetoric.
Lol
Well, they are never taught basic arguments against their position or basic, scientific, reasonable arguments to support their position either... because if they were, they would have to teach them that their position is not based in science, fact, or reality, but instead, it's actually a very selfish position that is only based on emotion - and the whole lie concerning "pro choice" would be exposed to all the little soldiers
That means that it’s fake passion. Passion only met when the perfect and convenient time arises. Lol 😂
Actually they are so convinced that they are good and the other side is evil..they don’t care about facts and arguments..
"No amount of evidence will ever persuade an idiot." - Mark Twain
Nice quote, but not attributable to Twain.
But they have posters dude
They are like “ look what’s written here in this big paper, that means I am correct” smh. It’s good that this is all recorded and kept in the Internet because these tiktoker ‘activists’ will be seen by the world forever. Hopefully they look back in these videos In a few years after their brain has fully developed and realize how cringy they looked with their little protest banners.
Hahahaha good one
“Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to 9 months. After that, they don’t wanna know about you. They don’t wanna hear from you. No nothing! No neonatal care, no daycare, no Head Start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you’re pre-born, you’re fine, if you’re preschool, you’re fucked.”
I love how her argument is "let's read my sign. Now let's read their signs."
Signs do not serve as substitute for arguments, Darby.
Give me a scientific reason.
Let me read you this sign in the back
🤦🏼♀️
It is typical of this generation's "group think" and inability to think for themselves. Yet, she has the arrogance and audacity to be up there screaming her ill-informed head off.
😂😂😂
That's because this entire generation with very few exceptions thinks with its emotions.
I don't even know why people even bother debating with Kristan. She will always win in the nicest way possible❤
And yet the sign girl acted so appalled and offended by Kristan's simple questions. 😅
I admire how calm she remains.
She didn’t win the argument….
Abortion is still legal and available to 70% of the American people…
And we’ll get to that last 30%….
Oh yeah, it’s a fair fight all right….
Unprepared students against a professional spokesmouth who’s had years to hone her message….
what a triumph 🙄
@@hexl702too5no one told the lady to protest and she's not a baby
She should've armed herself with research and made better arguments before challenging Kristen
If you can't handle the heat then GTFO of the kitchen
"My mother protested this 30 years ago. Why are we still protesting this." Missed opportunity for the speaker to go "Because your mother took responsibility despite her stance and chose life and had you."
I was thinking that that was going to be her response!
And new research has told us more about this "clump of cells"
Damn Saraland that was savage ! 😃
How's Gilead?
I wish her mother hadn’t, what a piece of 💩
This woman was so blind with confidence coming up to the podium after being so impressed with what she had written on her poster. It's hard to watch, yet so entertaining.
Remember, the point of being pro-life isn't about protecting life. They don't seem to care about foster kids, orphans, babies born in poor countries or with defects, or children of poor/homeless parents. Liberals are statistically way more likely to adopt and foster than conservatives. Conservatives don't even want to acknowledge children who might be LGBTQ, so why do they claim to support life universally only BEFORE the baby is born?
Then there's all the "hush-hush" abortions that these pro-life people will have when THEIR wife or girlfriend or mistress gets pregnant. Funny how their principles disappeared at such a time of need!
No, the point of being pro-life is to be anti-sex. They HATE women who are sexually active because sex = social skills = something most conservatives never have. So they try to remove abortion and birth control to "punish" young women for doing what they want.
Lmao
Girl....not woman
Its very easy to watch. She had that arrogant smirk and everything. It was a blast watching the mental gymnastics happen in real-time.
Most women are like this
Imagine if she said " we are having this argument right now because your mom didn't abort you"
The girl's head would have exploded.
Would have been so tempting to weild that one over her
Bingo!
I wish she said that
dude she'd probably have gotten sued or some shit.
Funny how living people who were given the chance to be born want to take it away from so many other people who aren’t born yet 🤦🏽♀️.
I never thought in that argument, but it is true! Like they love saying, they speak from their privilege 🤷♀️
Amen
@@krystel1040exactly. Yet they don't want others to have the privilege that they've been granted.
Instead, they put themselves in a position to dictate who lives and who dies.
Narcissists and death worshipping hypocrites is what they are.
You're so right, Infinite! I always liken it to the person who is admitted into an exclusive club, and then, once a member, works to implement changes in the rules to make it harder for others to join. At the very least, that's super-bad form!
It’s a fetus you’ll be alright
"When my mom was in college 30 years ago she was protesting the exact same thing"
Darling, you're there because people didn't listen to your mother.
No shit. The cognitive dissonance is astounding! Does this idiot realize that if her mom got her way she might have been aborted? What a clues gen z rihtard
The break up of the family base in the west
She couldn’t never mention her father
I love how that lady kept her cool.
thank you i just made a comment asking how she not questioned the fact that her mom somehow chose to not abort her
I wish everyone who was debating these pro choicers would say that to them. So it would have been OK if your mom aborted you? Too bad she didn't..
My sweet honey, you wouldn't be here if your father kicked and punched your mother so she didn't have
his child, how abortions began. She forgot to start out with that.
“It is usually futile to try and talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance.” Thomas Sowell.
A great example.
@J Wade the actual answer is 5 months old from a scientific standpoint. Why?
no she just can not argue properly ; it is logically proven that existence is bad ; cause with existence u have pain and pleasure and pain is bad and without existence no pain and no pleasure so its not good nor bad
So by this logic we can conclude that having a child is immoral cause it will go thru pain while not having one is not bad cause it wont go thru pain
Simple
@@gimli21 no its perfectly right ; i would love to die than live but unfortunately we don't have state assisted euthanasia centers so i have to carry on living
@J Wade take the L and have a seat because you are having a hard time following your own logic when you were questioned on your unsound logic. You aren't going to listen because you think you already know it all!
Schools are dumping out some real "brilliant" graduates with zero common sense and superinflated ego's at alarming rates.
@J Wade What else is conscious except humans?
If I ever protest anything, I’m going to make a sign that says “We made signs!”
Nice !! hahahahah
yeah that's usually the "sign" of a morn... Pun intended
Can I stand next to you with a sign stating 'ditto'?
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READ MY SIGN!!!
Since when did murder become a basic human right? Have I been asleep since the 60’s??
Since consequence-free sex became enshrined in public life. Kristan's 100% correct.
@RanMouri82 Considering how often "reliable" birth control doesn't work, you'd think people woukd have figured out there's no such thing as free sex.
Since they denied that unborn babies are living, human beings separate from the mother. This is the root of almost every pro choice argument you will hear.
'Human rights' have been voided of meaning just like everything else the left touches.
When my aunt was pregnant, planned and wanted, She was extremely happy to be pregnant. But the baby died in the stomach. My aunt died in the basement of a hospital cause she needed an abortion to get the baby out but she didn't receive the abortion, she didn't get the basic healthcare she needed cause the doctors were too busy contacting their lawyers since abortion was banned. It is a basic human right to get healthcare, why do yall wanna control women's bodies so much?
I'm actually genuinely impressed by the amount of patience she has
I think she was ready for the lack of brain cells entering the room that day.
If she didn’t have the amount of patience that she has then she wouldn’t be doing this in the first place
It's not too hard considering the child like level of thought put into their argument. She realized she was dealing with children and simply treated them as such.
i have alot of patience but i can not take so much ignorance and stupidity + bad attitude ! i fell bad her mother did not succeed with her protest !
@@TheMakyato So you feel bad that her mother didn't abort her ? You support abortion ?
Moral: Do not start an argument before you know your definitions.
OR don't argue against basic scientific facts using baseless contradictory opinions
seriously that redhead was so embarrassing. funny enough she seems to have a prolific pelvic.
Also, research about protection before enjoying your first of many rides. We all know people in that group's hobby is riding.
@@deviildogg1 basic science says that a living creature is a creature that can function on its own as an individual, the life of a fetus is totally dependent on the mom, therefore it's not alive. ;)
@@lewismiller870 So is a 2 year old.
“My mother, when she was in college, was protesting the exact same thing. Why are still protesting?”
“Because you weren’t aborted?”
This was my thought too. So hypocritical of alive/ born people to be for something that destroys others chance of being given what they were given themselves.
@@blondegiraffe2023 I understand but at the end of the day, no one chooses to exist or not. Parents decide one day, baby, and there you are, existing without your consent lol. Sounds stupid i know but it is how it goes.
Spot on I was going to make the same comment you beat me to it spot on . All the best to all .
Boom
wth? baby in the womb is not conscious, trees are also living go stand in front of them when they are coming to cut it. Anti-abortion is just sickheaded people trying to take away freedom, they also would be religious i guess which explains a lot
When your mom was in college protesting those things, the fact she didn't get her way and treat you like a "clump of cells" is the main reason you're still alive. So lady, you're welcome.
She asked why her mother was protesting the same thing 30 years ago, while she is standing there, living and breathing. Am I the only one who sees the irony in this?
Do you think pro choice means kill all fetuses? It's choice and circumstance and yet you call that girl stupid because you assume her mother would have aborted her 🙄
No, your not
@Thomas Shelby So would you only be pro choice for rape and incest though? Is that a viable compromise to you? I'm guessing no. People use it for selfish reasons and you know it.
@Thomas Shelby These students don’t think that way though. They are arguing that the baby is simply a clump of cells so it’s life doesn’t matter.
@Thomas Shelby
You know who's in a "difficult situation/circumstance"?
The baby that's about to be murdered by its own mother, but the term "mother" isn't accurate in those cases. Maybe "monster" would be more appropriate. Look, I get it, it's not all black and white, but take those small minded college girls as an example. The believe that if they go out, get stupid drunk and laid, if they turn up pregnant, just kill it. That's not what our creator had in mind. And yes, every life is precious.
I love how she kept constantly turning to the crowd for help. She was like "help guys this lady is making me look like a complete idiot by asking me simple questions!"😂😂😂
Exactly .. all emotion no logic whatsoever
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She doesn't need any help looking dumb🤣
"What science am I denying?" "WELL LOOK AT ALL THESE POSTERS!" - The pro-abortion argument in a nutshell
“Pro-life conservatives are obsessed with the fetus from conception to 9 months. After that, they don’t wanna know about you. They don’t wanna hear from you. No nothing! No neonatal care, no daycare, no Head Start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothing. If you’re pre-born, you’re fine, if you’re preschool, you’re fucked.”
The irony when she asks the question of why she is still protesting the same thing her mother protested for, the reason she's still protesting is because she didn't get aborted by her mother
@@serge6064 , that makes zero sense...you are anti-choice? You do know that means a woman can decide to keep the pregnancy going...right? Or should I say...no duh.
@@dukeblair7792
Choice is just a term pro-death people hide in. The redhead is lucky she wasnt an inconvenience at that time. Mother becomes God, she gets to decide who lives and who dies.
@@bunnylady6758 ,death of who? A clump of undeveloped cells? Are you saying that a person should be able to take human tissue, blood transfusion, or use of a womans organs without her consent? Can I use your organs if I need too?
Here's what I have never understood: If it's legal/okay to abort a "fetus", why is it considered murder if a pregnant woman is assaulted and the baby dies? They charge the assailant with "murder of an unborn child", right? So, is it murder if you really want the baby, but NOT murder if you choose to abort it?
Feticide laws exist so women can have it both ways!
Exactly
In my opinion, the people who want to ban abortion are egoists who are not really good people. You see again and again that religious people tend to have more extreme views. On racism, sexism, the death penalty, abortion, equality and sexuality. You can see around the world that in countries where religion is in government, people's rights are most restricted. In democracies you see that people who are atheists are more in favor of more humane and morally better solutions than fundamental believers.
@@AcidGubba Regarding your thoughts on religion & governments...throughout the world, many people who claim to follow Jesus Christ are deeply involved in politics. Some try to promote their religious and moral values by supporting particular candidates or political parties. In turn, politicians often use moral or social issues to win the support of religious people. It is not uncommon for religious leaders to run for political office. And in some countries, a “Christian” denomination may even occupy a special status as a state, or national, religion. What do you think? Should followers of Jesus Christ get involved in politics? You can find the answer by looking at Jesus’ example. He said: “I set the pattern for you, that just as I did to you, you should also do.” (John 13:15) When it comes to politics, what pattern did Jesus set? Did Jesus get involved in politics?
No. Jesus did not get involved in the politics of the world. Jesus did not seek political power. He refused to accept control of human governments when Satan the Devil offered him “all the kingdoms of the world.” (Matthew 4:8-10) a On another occasion, people who recognized Jesus’ leadership qualities tried to push him into politics. The Bible reports: “Jesus, knowing that they were about to come and seize him to make him king, withdrew again to the mountain all alone.” (John 6:15) Jesus did not yield to the will of the people. Instead, he refused to get politically involved. Jesus did not take sides on political issues. For example, in Jesus’ day the Jews resented paying taxes to the Roman government and viewed these as an unjust burden. When they tried to get Jesus to take sides on the issue, he did not get into a political debate about whether such taxes were just. He told them: “Pay back Caesar’s things to Caesar, but God’s things to God.” (Mark 12:13-17) He remained neutral on the political issue but showed that the taxes demanded by the Roman civil authority, which represented Caesar, should be paid. At the same time, he showed that obedience to secular authority was limited. A person was not to give the State what was due to God, including devotion and worship.-Matthew 4:10; 22:37, 38. Jesus promoted a heavenly government, God’s Kingdom. (Luke 4:43) He did not get involved in politics because he knew that God’s Kingdom, not human governments, would achieve what God wants for the earth. (Matthew 6:10) He understood that God’s Kingdom would not operate through human governments but would replace them.-Daniel 2:44.
Did first-century Christians get involved in politics?
No. Jesus’ followers obeyed his command to be “no part of the world.” (John 15:19) They followed his example and remained separate from the world’s politics. (John 17:16; 18:36) Rather than get involved in political matters, they did the work Jesus commanded-preaching and teaching about God’s Kingdom.-Matthew 28:18-20; Acts 10:42.
First-century Christians put obedience to God first in their lives, but they also knew that they had to respect secular authorities. (Acts 5:29; 1 Peter 2:13, 17) They obeyed the laws and paid taxes. (Romans 13:1, 7) While they did not get involved in politics, they did make use of legal protections and services that governments provided.-Acts 25:10, 11; Philippians 1:7.
Early Christians and politics-what secular history reports
“Christians refused to share certain duties of Roman citizens. . . . They would not hold political office.”-On the Road to Civilization-A World History, page 238.
“There is not a shred of evidence which would allow us to think that Jesus had military/political ambitions, and . . . the same applies to the disciples.”-Jesus and Judaism, page 231.
“To a Christian his religion was something apart from and superior to political society; his highest allegiance belonged not to Caesar but to Christ.”-Caesar and Christ, page 647.
“[The apostle] Paul was willing to use his Roman citizenship to demand the protections of the judicial process due him, but he engaged in no lobbying on the public policy issues of the day. . . . Though they believed they were obligated to honor the governing authorities, the early Christians did not believe in participating in political affairs.”-Beyond Good Intentions-A Biblical View of Politics, pages 122-123.
“There was a conviction widely held among Christians that none of their number should hold office under the state . . . As late as the beginning of the third century Hippolytus said that historic Christian custom required a civic magistrate to resign his office as a condition of joining the Church.”-A History of Christianity, Volume I, page 253.
Christian neutrality today
The Bible clearly shows that neither Jesus nor his early followers got involved in politics.
@ Okay, your comment is very long. I will write several answers so that I don't have different topics in one comment.
I think that religion plays a big role in politics, especially in the USA. About 10-15% of Americans are agnostics and atheists, but in politics everyone says they are a believer. It is quite unlikely that everyone there is religious, I think some say it so as not to risk their electorate. But do you think it is good that people have to pretend to be religious so as not to be excluded by religious voters?
I think one of people's great achievements is to have secular countries. If you look in countries where religion is in government, people have fewer rights than in western democratic countries. There are also studies that show that fundamentally religious people tend to have more extreme views on issues such as abortion, racism, the death penalty, equality, sexuality and morality.
I used to be a Christian myself and active in the church, but I left when I was 20 and my views were much more restrictive than they are today.
I come from Germany and when I look at European history over the last 1000 years, the Christian faith has played a very large role. We wouldn't have the rights we have today if religion had as much influence as it did in the 16th century, for example.
In my opinion, we should definitely prevent religious people from getting into government. I want to live in a country where scientific findings are more valuable than any faith. You just have to look at what new findings religions have brought in the last 1000 years and what new findings science has brought. Would you rather live in a country where faith decides what is right and what is wrong?
The patience, calmness, and control was exquisite. Well done, ma'am.
There's a big difference between patience and calmness and self-assured self-righteousness.
She's also editing this video as a bully onstage who creates her own audience outrage.
BOOM! Her last answer as to WHY this is still an issue... some call it natural consequences of your life choices
@@johnwattdotca you should probably learn the difference
@@johnwattdotca WTF??? 🤡
@@johnwattdotca Hearsssss Johny 👉🤡
"Because some people dont want to accept the natural consequences of heterosexual sex being inconvenient by another human life but want to selfishly choose to end human life in order to have their whims met." Well said Mdm speaker
Yessss! Thank youuuuu!!!!
It’s said you gotta talk this in the politically correct way. When it’s clearly “I want to have sex all day, without the responsibility of bearing a child”. You basically choose sex over someone else’s life
Just that simple!!!
Mic drop! Boom!
Its just simple explanation.. thats what happen you get so much power and freedom.. they forgot it comes at price a lot of country know USA usd control the market many just waiting right the time to start ww3.. putin just make the first move
All she has to say is "I'm not a biologist" and she could be nominated to the Supreme Court!
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@Truth Maybe she identifies as a ungendered black person, who is obviously unfit for any job other than saying "You want fries with that?"
🤣🤣 yep
SupaHotFire?
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Psalms 139 verse 13.... "For thou hast possessed my reins" thouhast covered me in my mothers womb"..... The word of God
Hate to break it to you but that means absolutely nothing to some people
@@urfavsh1teditor they also don't believe in biology or science in general
@@urfavsh1teditorTherefore, the commenter isnt addressing those ppl
@zizikadoh9468 then why is it in a public comment section with no adress whatsoever
Exactly lol
She was ready to fight not listen. I applaud you for staying calm and speaking truth
its bullshit and you cant have any opinions on it since you have no fuckin uterus
The lady on the podium is forgetting that up to the 6th month a baby depends on the mother for its survival. Which means that if something goes wrong in the pregnancy, DENYING ABORTION will end up with LETTING the MOTHER DIE.
This is not theory, it's the uncomfortable truth of Savita Halappanavar's, Valentina Milluzzo's and Izabela Sajbor's death.
It could have been the case of Andrea Prudente, but luckily for her, her husband managed to transfer her in another country.
So yes, we are talking of living beings, but still "potential" persons.
Dave are you in favor of mandatory organ donation or does your love for stripping people of bodily autonomy only extend to females?
@S floating okay first of all it’s not true that ALL pregnancy complications WILL end up with the mothers death unless the baby is aborted. In those cases where the mothers life is threatened I think basically everyone agrees it would be okay to abort them. Also to your last point about the baby in the womb being a “potential” person what defines a person under your definition?
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"The reason we are still having this argument(30 years later) is because some people don't want to accept the natural consequences that come from having sex & be inconvenienced by another human life. " BOOM! She is such a rock star- LOVE her bold truth bombs.
Let women make their own decisions about their bodies. Ban abortion will destroy the lifes of younger women. Their bodies, their decisions
Yea seriously like own that you created a life. Not the man, not god. But you the woman gave a person the chance to live and love
How come that prolifers are usually against contraception?
yup, i am 27 and I am glad I’ve never had these idiotic viewpoints on the pro-choice side
@@floatingsara I don't know any pro-lifers that are against contraception 🤔. Unless are you referring to the Catholic faith? I am not catholic, but I heard they frown on birth control in theology
They refuse to answer simple logical questions, because it reveals the wickedness in their own hearts. Good job Ms. on defending life.
questions like "what is a woman" :D different topic, same side, keep it up
I don't know if it's wickedness. Sometimes it's laziness, stupidity or even virtue-signalling.
@@Revelian1982 an act being done out of laziness, stupidity or the signaling of virtue does not make the act more or less wicked.
@N A if this is the line you are willing to stand on I will accept your terms but that number is so infinitesimally small in comparison to the overall number of abortions I doubt you are willing to accept that. I know many women who have had abortions and not a single one of those pregnancies was caused by rape or incest. This is an ignorant argument.
@N A it’s 1%…are you ok with getting rid of 99% of abortions?
Edit - and the funny thing is you say I don’t have evidence…you are probably going to ask me to cite sources which I can do but for some reason you decided to have an opinion about something you know nothing about because you have taken zero effort into looking into it yourself…pathetic.
notice how one person is visibly distressed and the other is calm and collected.
I was APPALLED when someone yelled out it’s living at 30 weeks 🙄🙄🙄 I had a micro preemie 9 months ago who was born at 26 weeks! I was able to feel him movie and kick before that and he was born VERY MUCH ALIVE!
Oh my goodness, that’s so early! I hope he survived and managed to live a healthy life ❤ The unfortunate truth is that many extremely premature babies do not survive outside mum. Babies in utero need the mother in order to survive. That is why it needs to be the mother’s choice on whether to carry to term. This poor woman who thinks she’s trying to “save babies” just doesn’t realise or cannot comprehend that reality.
A family member of mine just had a set of twins born at about 23 weeks. They were and still are very much alive. I hope your little one is doing well.
@@teresadwight206 he’ll be a year old is less than a week! It’s very possible for babies even younger than him to survive! We made lots of friends while we were in the Nicu with our baby and were SHOCKED at how many babies were born
Even earlier than he was and they survived! I think Kristan has a very good understanding when she talks. She’s very well educated and always comes with facts.
@@Skilletfan that’s such great news! People have the misconception that anything before 30 weeks isn’t a living baby. If that was the case I wouldn’t have an almost 1 year old and your friend wouldn’t have those I bet adorable twins! Gosh I remember the first kick and researching everything to make sure I wasn’t just feeling bubbles 🤣🤣
Yeast is alive and grows. An earthworm is alive and moving.
I love how she is so proud of herself like when a small child thinks they've done something amazing but they have actually just drawn all over the walls.
Lol
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You have to wonder how she graduated from grammar school.
I think what that shows is she's actually afraid of going against society because she knows how stupid some of the arguments are.
@@keylinlarson108
How did you like the failed red wave last November?….
Pundits say pro-choice women made the difference…..
Obviously, we don’t depend on young girls with glitter signs…..
I love how the only research she's done is by reading other people's signs
Remember, the point of being pro-life isn't about protecting life. They don't seem to care about foster kids, orphans, babies born in poor countries or with defects, or children of poor/homeless parents. Liberals are statistically way more likely to adopt and foster than conservatives. Conservatives don't even want to acknowledge children who might be LGBTQ, so why do they claim to support life universally only BEFORE the baby is born?
Then there's all the "hush-hush" abortions that these pro-life people will have when THEIR wife or girlfriend or mistress gets pregnant. Funny how their principles disappeared at such a time of need!
No, the point of being pro-life is to be anti-sex. They HATE women who are sexually active because sex = social skills = something most conservatives never have. So they try to remove abortion and birth control to "punish" young women for doing what they want.
@@americanhero8606 well you can do what you want, but you should also know that there's consequences to your actions
@@notaprogamer2782 Consequences to what? A basic lawful medical procedure like abortion?
Stop being pro-life and try being smart enough to say something meaningful for once. Be worth your own existence.
@@notaprogamer2782 If you mean fertilization being a consequence of sex, yeah that's why abortion is supposed to be legal and available.
@@americanhero8606 just don't have sex
Prochoice people are only here because their mothers respected life. Let that sink in.
In America most women who have abortion are already a mother of at least one child.
They have abortion for the sake of their already existing family/children.
Let that sink in.
Im pro abortion and whould not give a shit if my parents aborted me
Wanna know why ?
Because I whouldnt exist lmao
@@Blue-5 but now that your alive aren’t you greatfull your parents loved you?
@@mattewclubb5882 I am
But thats because they actually had the choice to get an abortion
Love isnt that admirable if they were forced to love me
Also , the fact that I whouldnt want to be aborted is not excuse . Its their body and in the one using it without permission .
Wow. Awesome presenter. She kept her cool and just stated the facts. That’s how it’s done.
If your daughter gets violently raped and ends up pregnant from the incident, should she not have the choice to abort?
Helps that she’s debating Idiots
And she said the main truth. This focktards want to fock around and have no responsibilities. And even if they have to kill some one to keep focking then they are ready for it.
She didn’t have to state anything. She just kept throwing the girls statements back at her and beating her up with them. That was a classic battle of wits with a completely unarmed person.
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Kristan Hawkins: "When does life become sustainable?"
Genius Pro-Choicer: "Uh...I have a sign!"
variously around 22 weeks is when we outlaw an elective abortion.
Yes, we outlaw abortions for no good medical reason in 41+ US states.
That is a legal definition and it's based on a medical definition, unlike the irrational and non-rational "life begins when dad came" of the "pro-life" crowd.
No, from context I deduced that Kristian Hawkins is the pro-lifer.
They had to write it down somewhere. How can she make an argument without prompts or poster signs from her friends? I mean its not like she's an adult or.... Oh wait.
She looks so proud of herself. Repeating professors talking points, of course getting angry and hostile....what's new?!
That student looked like she had mental disorders. Look at the expressions on her face. The expressions are consistent with those of a 6 year old child.
Her anger makes it clear that she is getting triggered. It is the result of cognitive dissonance.
And, her mother's talking points. 🙄 I'm shocked her mother gave birth to her. She even talked about her mother protesting the same exact issue 30 years ago.
@@aspirecan4829
The fruit doesn't fall far from the tree. Mother and daughter know exactly who they are and the Holy Bible explains it.
1 Samuel 15:23 (KJV)
For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.
It’s typical liberal reaction these days. They’re so void of logic they have to fall back on basic human emotions such as anger to “feel” right.
It's hard to have a battle of wits with someone who is unprepared.
They deadass assert that pro-life is anti-science while simultaneously never having read a biology book with attention
I say that any young lady that wishes to have an abortion should be allowed to once she assisted in the abortion procedure and saw the result , they will change their mind quite quick after that , only complete psychopaths can perform an abortion and not feel sick for days afterward , and such people shouldn't have children anyway
The people who yell the loudest about someone being “anti-science”, are always the same people that claim there are more then 2 genders.
In all fairness the "biology" books they get in these universities are probably just filled with Marxist propaganda
@@travelsouthafrica5048 but they are complete psychopaths. They're liberals.
You have revealed the extent of your mentality with your comment. You have no credibility here.
i just lost 3% of my brain cells capacity by listening to this "let me read my sign" girl, and my respect to the woman behind the podium to endure so much stupidity !
I’m confused. You’re a pro lifer, but you lost brain cells? How could a pro lifer lose brain cells if they had none in the first place?
And so calmly!!
Dang you only lost 3%, lucky.
I lost about 20%
Don't worry, you regained 10 times more just by listening to Kristan's logic.
Her citing all the “signs” in the audience as being the data to back up her claims was absolutely priceless!!! These people are just so far gone from reality… I actually feel bad for college kids. Their brains have been melted by propaganda.
*into propaganda.
At this point I'd say their brains are melted into propaganda.
@@palo828 good point!
lol Your name is funny xD
I bet most people don't get it
@@PANZERFAUST90 I don't get it. What does it mean?
Don't feel bad for them. The damage they do to others shows they have no sympathy for human beings, so they deserve none.
Freedom isn't being able to decide if you want to be pregnant or not when you already are.
Freedom is having the choice to make the decision to engage in the act that creates the baby.
why is it not freedom when you are already pregnant?
Freedom from consequence and from duty is a bad thing. It ruins societies.
People should not be free from the direct consequences of their actions, and parents should not be free from their duty to love and care for their children.
I can't understand why this needs to be explained to people, but apparently it does.
@@povilzem it is not fair to assign responsibility to women in this case. for one it ignores cases of assault. and second many women take the responsible precautions by using contraceptives so you can not say they intended for this to happen.
Pills are not a hundred percent effective. Some women knew that but still chose to have sex. And the consequence is getting pregnant. Would it be responsible of them to end a life although they knew the risk? (This does not include sexual assult of course.)
“Women need to be held accountable for abortion!….
But Jesus takes accountability away just like that! (snaps finger)”….
Aren’t fundies undermining their own point?….
This speaker is calm, articulate, and forces the pro choicer to stay in the realm of facts. I love it, and will he be finding more of her content. Have a like.
More importantly, she has moral confidence. That comes from knowing what you're supporting and knowing what you oppose.
What often seems impressively articulate is not sophisticated language at all but plain, absolute declarations which permit no ambiguity. I think it's worth pointing out here because oftentimes you'll see conservatives on other issues strive to be articulate, but in the sense of using sophisticated language to "hide the ball" or to be cleverly indirect. This is often because the person doesn't want to speak to the core of their position for fear of being called a name. But one only fears the enemy's taunts when one doesn't have clarity or confidence about the core principle one is advocating.
There should be no cause for this for conservatives. Progressives are pro-death. They desire for any child who survives abortion to be put on puberty blockers. Saving that, they'd prefer they be homosexual. Saving that they'd prefer they undertake an eternal adolescence of masturbation. Most of the progressives you encounter are in the midst of that kind of life. A childless life seeking novelty and trivia rather than renewal and meaning.
Conservatives should never come to a topic of debate against a progressive position with concerns that its possible that the progressive could be right about the core issue. If a progressive argument seems credible, you just need to pull back a bit and see what the argument is designed to accomplish. Nine times out of ten it's a fallacious trick and the remaining one-in-ten times it's a morally abominable conceit.
It is incredibly refreshing and inspiring. Even makes ME feel calm, even though I´m watching this through a screen.
I'm 50/50 on this argument. But it doesn't help the pro choicers argument when you can tell that they are pro choicers just by looking at them.
@@dantrag2890 why are you 50/50?
@@michaelcurtis9998 the weak & the stupid are being indoctrinated faster than they are waking up. If this is how the herd gets thinned...so be it.
The moment she looked at her friends said it all. Priceless.
These people should be killed i swear. I'd rather have a new generation of potential good people than an old generation of bitter child killing witches. And if it were up to me, i'd make that choice any day. One could say that they're just indoctrinated but i say ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES. IGNORANCE IS NOT AN EXCUSE.
The weak need others to fight for them.
Professor: "Hey! Don't look at them, look at me!"
Love it!
When you poke your head out of your echo chamber and then immediately retreat
There were several times you could see the protester's hamster slip the wheel. Just "duhhhhh ummmmm daaahhhhh". Kudos to the speaker for not verbally b*slapping that chick.
Watching them scream anytime their opinions are challenged is quality entertainment
The “I’m a clump of cells” comeback was perfect. She was speechless. Their arguments are baseless. They’re children who don’t understand morals and could easily be convinced to do anything. Devil’s lackeys
Clump of cells with a soul. We all have a soul too.
we are all a clump of cells!
@@stevendoty9408 every person has an actual soul inside them.
@@loveforgood7520 did I say we did not? no! I said, to the lefties argument, we are all a clump of cells!!
@@loveforgood7520 I mean the pro choice arguments are inherently correct, whether you choose to believe them or not.
What’s hilarious is how this girl says something and then has a smug smile on her face like she just obliterated her opponent. And then the woman on stage asks yet another question that dumbfounds smug-girl, who just repeats the cycle of revealing her stupidity. This is what happens when people jump into an ideology but are unable to defend it. It’s emotion without reason.
She probably won’t be standing there if her mom successfully protested.
Edits: Some people take my comment too seriously, I get that pro-abortion doesn't mean someone is going to have an abortion, that's common logic. No need to bring this argument out. Also, my comment goes both ways based on how to interpret it. She probably won't need to stand there protesting for abortion if her mom successfully protested...because abortion was successfully protested. 😂 Understand the humor, please.
🤣🤣 thats what i was thinking
@@ahsandurrani6557 That´s what we hoped for... Fail..
Her mother should've... NVM. Her life is valuable too, I guess.
Just because your pro choice doesn't mean you'd have one yourself. 🤦
Mmmm damn, so tru
It's scary that she reads that thing and feels very proud of it. This mentality is ludicrous
As a 43 year old fetus, I support this message.
I like how they compare an Infant needing another body to develop to a fetus who is literally attached to the hosts body and can't develop without being attached. One of those does not need help by being attached or connected to it's host to develop. To compare the two was silly AF.
This looks staged. Like an episode of Jerry Springer.
The only reason the crazy win the anti choice arguement is because they have zero emotion for the people who have to provide that umbilical cord.
It's ok if we die or suffer so long as they feel good with their God.
Oh and lady, pro choice means we don't force womb owners to sacrifice their wellbeing for another human being when they choose not to.
American laws have never banned giving birth so your fear mongering to say we are ashamed of the word abortion isn't true.
See? Abortion abortion abortion. I can say it all I want and feel zero shame.
Sorry you feel guilty if you aren't controlling womb owners bodies. That's pretty dictator ma'am.
Edit: notice the comments as soon as I said something? Bots gonna bot. The far right womb controllers are using bots to force others to live their lifestyles. Just like trump did with Twitter in 2016. Half truths and fear mongering is what this Speaker is doing.
It's easy to control a narrative when you have multiple fake accounts to keep engagement high.
Correction... you are a 43 year old clump of cells my good sir!
As a clump of cells, I stand with you
Ur a good man
Lmfao 🤣 🤣
Her logic is being overwritten by group mentality , you can clearly see the group actions dictating her response instead of using her brain and actually thinking about it.Also everytime they cheer subconsciously it meant validation for her and she doubled down.
Collectivism and cultural Marxism. She looks to the group for direction while having no actual self identity or opinion of her own. Just a hollow shell. As the communists loved to say “there is no I, there is only we” it’s breeding idiots in the school systems clearly. Completely indoctrinated.
Thats some insane projection.
@@vlakatvlakatn1465 Well I don't know if this was meant for my comment but it is more of an observation based on what we see in the video , maybe it isn't what is actually happening but it certainly is a good guess or opinion from what we see since it isn't anything too far out there it is basic group mentality that everyone is guilty at some point and more so when younger and the validation part , I mean it is a normal thing everyone takes part in everyday life whether you notice it or not. Nothing I said would be that crazy when describing a teen or young adult.I don't get where you get this projection thing from aside from just saying it because you don't agreed with my observation , which is fine.
its funny becuse when these ppl build such a group mentality instead of developing a thicker skin that when the barbarian who never run out of stones eat there own they commit suicide once knew a girl on twitter who ran a hate mob then it turned on her then she killed herself these ppl are not designed for the criticism of politics.there by products of the neandrathols that need there group hunts they develop like wolfs that once they get banished and its akways personal shit with these ppl becuse there emotionally impulsive.that when there cult leader tells them there out they cant hunt and die.just look at the men there stick sn opposding Chad watch that group break up over him.
did you see the part near like 2 minutes 20 seconds where she was actually listening and her mind looked like it was trying to start firing? then someone says something that gets her attention and it dies
It's so brave of people to demand their "rights" while denying the "rights" of others who are unable to speak for themselves.
Women have aborted unwanted pregnancies since the beginning of time...known herbs can cause this. It's the modern women that seeks assistance is what makes it murder and causing death.
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So the government should have the “right” to force women to give birth to a baby they can’t take care of? That’s called authoritarianism.
@@Dylanbolton69 that makes as much sense as saying that a woman who already has a baby and no longer wants it should be able to just murder the child.
these demanding their rights are killing babies who cant fend for themselves.
Her mom, 30 years ago, was protesting in demand of the right to have an abortion... yet somehow the student who can't answer questions, but only emote, is alive...
Patience power is maxed in this woman. Incredible
That's what parenthood does
You hit the nail on the head
School systems now made kids becoming morons
Lol forreal
I've seen her videos before, she's been around for a while and she's excellent at articulating her point, her words are like a surgical scalpel
She is brilliant. This is how you win when you are right and you know it. Stay grounded, allow your opposition to speak and have them come to the conclusion that you guide them to.
If you don't believe in abortions, don't have one.
@@spltndddpairofaces680
Reading your comment feels like getting inside the mind of a psychopath.
They always find a way to rationalize their inhumane and selfish choices.
Brilliant? Let's not go crazy. One does not need to be brilliant to destroy the "logic" of her opponent.
Is this real. Why she looks crazy
Sadly, the redhead was too ignorant to reach a logical conclusion.
She was so ill-prepared and actually ended up fortifying the pro-life argument. Brilliant!! lol
They're all ill prepared because there isn't an argument for an abortion other than rape or the mothers life being at risk
You do know that they pay actors to say what they want to say?
What beter argument then to show that your opponent doesnt know anything about the discussion at hand?
How much money should i pay you to say that eating poop with hot sause tastes like kentucky fried chicken?
@@youtubestudiosucks978 Right....so salty.
@@youtubestudiosucks978 so you're saying this woman is an actor? lmfao, i'm sure you can find her social media and see if she's an actor or not.
@@Jake-dc8yx She's not an actor. She's your standard, typical SJW fueled by emotions and social media misinformation.
Why is it "science" claims a clump of cells on the moon is "life", but a clump of cells inside a women is not...?
Well science says it’s human in the womb.
It's human (adjective),
BUT not A human (noun).
Because money. It's about money. Nothing special. Hospitals and clinics probably supports abortion in order for them to make money out of those people who lust a lot
It’s living but not conscience
@@weeblordgaming6062 conciouseness has nothing to do with murder!
It’s shocking how willing people are to argue something without having thought about the most fundamental aspects of the debate…
They argue to continually convince themselves how right they are. Why they have such shallow understandings. Any real understanding would destroy the lie they live.
Absolutely. I believe that this is a societal result from years of "like" buttons replacing one's need for actual research. When people affirm your thoughts and opinions, then your thoughts and opinions must be factual.
This is the effect of an echo chamber...she has surrounded herself with like-minded children who will affirm her poorly thought out stances...
Yeah, the lady at the podium hasn't thought it through very much.
Gomez Addams would've said: "I love your spirit. You're not making much sense but I love your spirit."
The woman at the podium answered her questions wonderfully and with great patience. She did a great job!! ❤
Fully agree
@@TheOneDono Wasn't she right? The girl clearly didn't know what she was saying?
@@TheOneDono lmao that's not how that played out. She didn't know the answer, she was fumbling trying to come up with some bullshit to thing to say, and all the speaker did was make an objective statement of truth. She didn't know the answer. And there was only one emotion person out of the two. You are right about one thing though. You can't argue with facts. And the only one armed with those was the speaker.
Women ben shapiro
@@HillelFriedler how dare you assume gender.
She keeps looking over to her friends for answers. Perfect example of how getting all of your info through an echo chamber will cause you to be clueless and uneducated.
It's like "Can I get a lifeline" on a gameshow.
@@mannypacu6460 Yep it sounded like the price is right gameshow with everybody yelling their price/opinion and she is looking around trying to figure out which opinion may or may not be the closest to a correct answer 🥴
I saw that too. Lol Like a price is right contestant looking to the audience for a bid.
Yes. Almost like an episode of 'the price is right'!
@@nick0lasj0nes73 ditto! We Posted the same thought at the same time 🤣
0:33 Wrong analogy. Acorn:Tree = Fetus:Adult.
Acorn seed is not a tree
Just as a fertilized egg is not a human being
Since both need to be implanted to have a chance at becoming a tree or human being.
She keeps turning around to the audience like a kid in class who gets called on &doesn’t know the answer waiting for her friends to tell her the right one 😂
EDIT: y’all’s responses are priceless 🤣
To be fair she look young 20-22 top. All this yahoo cult like group porpousely prey on young mind to brainwash them with their ideology.
I noticed the same thing when she didn't know the answer
And never answered one question
She tried so hard to make her point across without having anything to back it up, stupid person they are.
Democrats minds are very childlike, they have all these dreams but no actual solutions that work to achieve these dreams. They constantly contradict themselves like calling their opponents racists and then say the most racist things ever like, "You aint black if you dont vote for me" "Poor people are just as smart as white people" and one of my favorites minorities do not have access to things because of their race, like a govt issued ID!
Every minority that I served with in the Army was issued a government issued ID card just like my "white" a$$
"My mom was having this very debate 30 years ago."
Had her mom ever aborted her, then she would've have been there to defend abortion.
Here's a haunting thought: How many people would be on a stage somewhere, defending abortion today...except their mothers aborted them 20+ years ago?
@O B they are sperm cells and they need the female egg to become zygote-foetus 😂.. This logic is pretty lame tho..
@O B Because a sperm cell isnt actually a human organism, it's just a gamete. It becomes a fully diploid chromosomed human organism when it is united with the egg which results in a fetus aka first instance of human life in development. An acorn isnt a tree but what grows out of it when planted is a tree (sapling). In the same way, a sperm cell isnt a human but what grows out of it when united with an egg is human.
@O B yes, sperm are cells, but they have the same genetic code as the male, meaning they are an extension of his body.
In the moment of conception though a new being with a whole different genetic code its formed, and therefore, its a different individual.
@Andai 😂😂😂😂
What do u mean the sperm is a living seed planted to grow to something brautiful .
This lady was so courageous, thoughtful, calm and wise in her response. Very well done!!!
But her responses were not thoughtful or courageous. They were pro-life rhetoric thrown out by a self-rightous speaker. She thinks she's right so no one else's opinion or thought process could possibly be worthwhile.
@@queent3343 she is so thoughtless but tell me, “When does life begin”?
@@queent3343 Literally defending helpless children who don't have the voice to say "I'd rather not be killed", yep seems VERY self-righteous.
@@queent3343 It wasn't thrown out rhetoric. They were valid questions, which the student could not answer. Period! If the student really was pro choice enough to get up there to speak, she should've been more prepared to have come back answers to the speaker. All she wanted to do was read her sign , and that's it. She was clueless to any questions that would be asked of her. What did she expect ,that the speaker wasn't going to ask her to elaborate. That's exactly what she did ask her to do, and she couldn't.
@@Clauderoberts29 Look up my previous post about Roe V. Wade. The Supreme Court says 24 to 26 weeks like viable outside of the womb. That's the law until it's overturned. If you don't believe that, then that's on you. I believe a woman has a right to make a choice under that law. That choice is what gets all the religious types all roiled up because to them there is no choice.
The reason they’re still having the argument is because her mom didn’t have an abortion.
The idiocy of these “ pro choice” students is something to behold. Breathtaking.
What's more breathtaking is realizing they are students-- supposed to be the next generation of intellectuals. Kinda sad honestly
The real pandemic is narcissism.
@@micahwright1578 pro lifers are equally ignorant.
I don’t think anyone has the right to force someone to have a baby that they don’t want.
I don’t want to generalize cause she wasn’t the sharpest tool in the toolbox
It's not difficult to exert patience when you have such a complete understanding of what's happening. Confusion makes people flustered.
You do realise that Kristan Hawkins is pro-cancer in her argument, don't you.
Wisdom
I love how she's so proud of herself after saying a living woman is worth more than a potential baby than gets totally owned. Amazing.
You have a sad and displaced sense of love. And it shows how far removed you are from knowing life.
@@johnwattdotca what bru🤣🤣🤣
@@johnwattdotca What? What are you talking about?
@@johnwattdotca Awwww does the baby killer need a tissue?
SO when the baby is an actual baby, what is the baby's worth then? I would bet the pro death morons don't have an answer to that either.
She couldn’t even remember her own sign, she wrote. She had to read it. Think that’s enough to go off of for me.
I love how she trys to educate them instead of just shutting them down
She'd make a good mother. Probably is...
I would think the Jen Psaki lookalike might not be, but in all honesty, she's still a kid.
She'll hopefully mature eventually.
Like, we've all been teens and couldn't formulate a coherent thought on our own at some point.
It's part of being human...
She clearly outclassed her...like a pro boxer toys with a noob in the ring.
Remember, the point of being pro-life isn't about protecting life. They don't seem to care about foster kids, orphans, babies born in poor countries or with defects, or children of poor/homeless parents. Liberals are statistically way more likely to adopt and foster than conservatives. Conservatives don't even want to acknowledge children who might be LGBTQ, so why do they claim to support life universally only BEFORE the baby is born?
Then there's all the "hush-hush" abortions that these pro-life people will have when THEIR wife or girlfriend or mistress gets pregnant. Funny how their principles disappeared at such a time of need!
No, the point of being pro-life is to be anti-sex. They HATE women who are sexually active because sex = social skills = something most conservatives never have. So they try to remove abortion and birth control to "punish" young women for doing what they want.
@@americanhero8606 who cares whether you are left or right wing...man or woman..God creates life in this manner which is why he hates fornication outside marriage . You are bought at a price and have no right over yourself let alone to kill an unborn. We have lost all morality and rely on what we think is correct. Do you honestly think we know better than God.
@@LeSyd1984 From near the end of this, she says she has newborns.
I tell ya Kristan, you have such extreme patience with these ignorant and uneducated college students which is why you are so good at what you do! It's scary to think they dont even know basic embryology in this day and age!
Yes, old child hood friends of mine saying it is just a clump of cells when their mother is a ultrasound tech was jaw dropping to me. If I were in charge of the curriculum for public school they would have been exposed to a lot of actual ultrasound images and videos plus each developmental phase.
They don’t understand it because our education system is dumbing them down.
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Unaccountability is cherished by infants and Tyrants.
that clump of cells in the white tank top looked like it couldn't sustain its life without assistance.
Kristan is amazing. She calmly dismantles every terrible argument they throw at her.
Well, the forced-birthers would be experts on patience…..
they had to accept abortion for 50 years….
And she’ll have to keep on being patient because abortion hasn’t gone anywhere…..
It’s still legal and available to 70% of the American people…..
@@hexl702too5 literally no one asked. Imagine trying to defend that stuttering pro-murder clown in the video 😂
@@mike_404
lol dummy!…..
This video makes you focus on ONE woman…..
While you’re forgetting the MILLIONS of other women who still get abortions and vote for choice…..
They keep reproductive freedom alive….
This video is made for a MAGA-boy’s hindbrain…..
it’s the equivalent of saying “hey look, shiny objects over here!”…..
@@mike_404 right. Like dealing with an overweight pro-birther is any better. They are both about as useful as a blow up dart board.
Yet the majority of americans are pro choice
Retired physician here, trained in obstetrics/gynecology and pathology. Some who support abortion hold to the ridiculous notions that a fetus is not a baby or that an unborn baby isn’t human until it’s born. Others supporting abortion claim that life only begins when a baby takes its first breath at birth. They cite the Genesis account of God breathing life into the man whom He created. But these people conveniently ignore that in the Biblical account, God utilized no egg, no sperm, and no womb when He created Adam from dust and Eve from Adam’s rib. Unborn babies, however, are a totally different matter, for they are very much alive in the womb. They develop, move and grow, cardiac motion is detected by ultrasound by five-six weeks, they suck their thumbs, hiccup, and though they receive oxygen and nutrients from the mother via the umbilical cord, they still “breathe” small amounts of amniotic fluid, FOR GOD HAS ALREADY GIVEN THEM LIFE IN THE WOMB. How can unborn babies move and grow, etc., if they are not alive in the womb? Yes, babies take their first breath of AIR when they are born, but they are most definitely ALIVE BEFORE they do so. Life begins at conception. Abortion is the murdering of innocent human life.
Jesus does not mention abortion by name in any of His teachings. Therefore, some folks take that to mean that mankind may kill innocent, unborn babies through abortion at will. How utterly absurd! Such people either conveniently ignore or are unfamiliar with the Scripture that states: HANDS THAT SHED INNOCENT BLOOD ARE AN ABOMINATION UNTO GOD (PROVERBS 6:16-17). This passage certainly indicates that those who shed the blood of innocent, unborn babies through abortion, or who condone such heinous acts, are ABOMINATIONS unto God.
Pro-choicers often cite Numbers 5 as “evidence” for abortion. In this chapter according to the KJV, the priest conducts a ritual to test for adultery, whereby a guilty woman is cursed: “The LORD make thee a curse and an oath among thy people, when the LORD doth make thy thigh to rot, and thy belly to swell” (v. 21). Neither pregnancy nor abortion are specifically mentioned. On the other hand, the NIV implies miscarriage: “may the LORD cause you to become a curse among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell.” It is God Who causes the miscarriage, not man. The passage DOES NOT grant mankind permission to perform abortions.
Pro-choicers also quote Hosea 13:16 as “evidence” for abortion. This passage describes the punishment that Samaria will suffer for rebelling against God: "they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up" (KJV). God destroyed the infants along with the adults, because He knew that when the infants grew to adulthood, they would be just as rebellious as their parents; in God's sight, those infants were not innocent. God would have none of that, so He destroyed them all, regardless of age. Harsh? Yes, but God is sovereign and holy and must be obeyed. As the Creator, God gives life and takes away life as He chooses. The Scripture said: "the LORD gave, and the LORD hath taken away; blessed be the name of the LORD" (Job 1:21b KJV). That DOES NOT mean we may take away life any time that suits us. We have NO permission from God to abort unwanted, unborn babies at will. Therefore, the passage above in Hosea has nothing to do with abortion.
DO NOT apply human thoughts and actions to God. As God says, "For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD. For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts" (Isaiah 55:8-9 KJV).
"Life begins at conception."
I doubt you are a physician since biologists/scientists normally don't use such ill-defined and ambiguous language.
Your above statement has no definitive meaning!
Are you saying that the conception is already a human being???
Most conceptions will not result in a successful birth,
So are you saying that most people will die before being born???
Science/biology destroys the belief that the conception is already a human being
SINCE 2 or more human beings can come from the same conception/zygote.
EDUCATE YOURSELF.
Take a course on EMBRYOLOGY! 😀
@denniswakabayashi9000 your cognitive dissonance is on full display here.
@@mrsW-
Obviously coco lied about being a physician
Since "life begins at conception"
Has no definitive meaning.
Human cellular began before conception
Since the live zygote didn't just miraculously appear out of thin air
BUT came from already existing live human cells.
Also most conceptions will not result in a successful birth.
To believe that the conception/zygote is already a human being
Is to believe most people will die before being born.
A physician would know about the high rate of failed conceptions.
@denniswakabayashi9000 So, are you implying that there are no Christian biologists? I like how the majority of biologists who actually got an education will agree that fetuses are humans. Hints the reason why it's called a fetus. Also, in an earlier reply, I believe it was you who called a human fetus a parasite. So how could someone with such an absurd statement claim this wonderfully displayed statement false? Do you too believe that a child is just an exceserary as many other murderers do?
@@HaydenD1776
Science/biology cannot tell us IF or WHEN the developing fetus becomes a person
Since we are biologically different since we breathe through our lungs and do not receive nutrients from an umbilical cord attached to a person.
When personhood is attained is a social construct where it's expressed in our laws
And outside the realm of science/biology to answer.
The fetus has never been recognized and treated as a person under the Constitution
Where this current US Supreme Court affirmed that precedence when allowing doctor assisted abortions into the 2nd trimester in Mississippi (Dobbs).
US Supreme Court does not view abortion as murder.
I like how a few of the students that are being shown on camera are trying to hold in their laughs. Ridiculous how the pro choice girl is avoiding questions...
*few*
They should have laughed that evil bitch away from the microphone, with her stupid bloody poster, and LOUDLY!!!!!
@@veniceangelidelacruz2988
You can count. Fantastic.
That's how the left does it. Deflect, avoid, deflect. Name call. Deflect.
These people are only thinking in bumpersticker slogans.
Kudos to you for staying unbelievably composed while listening to arguably some of the worst rebuttals I’ve ever heard. I’d lose my mind.
Yeah, cause what the world needs most is more unwanted children.
@@darkheart3770 Adoption is an option if she doesn't want it. You know that.
@@darkheart3770 condoms, birth control, PULLING OUT, not having sex. There are so many fucking options
@@darkheart3770 Maybe you should stop having sex if you're too irresponsible to handle the consequences of your own actions? 🤔🤔🤔
@@darkheart3770 well..then dont open your legs lmao
If they found one living cell on Mars they’d all start dancing and celebrating life.
Yes, because this would be a huge, potentially the largest, scientific discovery we’ve ever made, not because that life has value or personhood supplanting that of a woman….
something living on Mars...would be life. but nice try at big brain
@@bass-tones if you wantnto argue personhood then you must admit a baby is alive.
@@bass-tones So an alien being is more important than a human being?
Life can be single celled or multicellular. Humans are meant to have many cells, other organism may only be meant to have 1. Other organisms can be alive in a single cell but a human cell on it’s own should not be valued as much as an entire individual. You shed cells everyday, do you mourn for their deaths?
That girl acted like it must be so because it was written on her poster. At the end, when she could not answer the question, she deflected and became angry. She is still protesting the same thing her mother protested because she was born since her mother did not abort her.
She shows so much passion for such an awful stance.
It's called evil.
Acually, it has become a "control" issue. They want control over their entire lives even if it means killing another human being.
So does a rabid raccoon
@@rah1721 satanism, selfishness, self worship.
They sacrifice their own babies for convenience.
Their choice was having sex. Abortion is them denying God and His order. Them placing themselves in His place.
It is sickening
It is easy to be passionate about something when no one has made you face your own ignorance. You could tell this was the first time for her by how much she was taken aback in this exchange. "Oh I havent thought about that!"
I was one of those students in the ‘70’s that believed in the argument that abortion was eliminating a clump of cells. Then I became pregnant with my first child, and that changed my perception. So I started looking at why ending human life in the womb had become acceptable, and came to the conclusion that it was about convenience. That disregard for human life shook me to the core, and I believe now that it has corrupted our culture.
I was brought up by a feminist mother and surrounded by left wing friends and it took sone deprogramming, but I eventually came to a strong believe that killing a fetus, except where the mother's life is threatened by it, is wrong. Abortion is a euphemism. All the best to you.
@@chelseapoet3664You never have to intentionally kill the unborn in order to save the mother’s life. The unborn baby either dies as an unintended, unpreventable side effect of treating an ectopic pregnancy, or the baby is simply delivered prematurely. In cases of premature delivery, the baby may not survive, but the baby is at least given a fighting chance.
@@chelseapoet3664 So I guess that you are not a Christian. The Bible says that life begins at the first breath and that fetuses are only of value to the parents. That is why Evangelicals until 1980 regarded caring about insentient fetuses as a quaint Catholic idea and both anti-Biblical and immoral. They were horrified by the deaths of thousands of women in unsafe abortions and campaigned to legalise it, preaching from pulpits and welcoming Roe v Wade. Back in those days, Evangelicals had some morality instead of it being a political issue on which to win votes and converts. Why has basic human morality become the province of the left-wing when it was once non-partisan?
@@Illawong The Bible doesn't say that, what you mention happened only to Adam, the first man. To complement, follow a verse below about life at conception.
Psalm 139:13-16 NIV
"For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother’s womb. I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made; your works are wonderful, I know that full well. My frame was not hidden from you when I was made in the secret place, when I was woven together in the depths of the earth. Your eyes saw my unformed body; all the days ordained for me were written in your book before one of them came to be."
@@kleberamado What I am referring to is traditional Jewish and Christian thought, not my own opinion. The view that life begins with the first breath has been incorporated into the law in Christian countries where "personhood" is granted at birth. You cannot be murdered until you have taken your first breath.
It is not just Genesis. These are just a few of the other references to breath meaning life. Genesis 2:7 "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."; Psalms 33:6 "By the word of the LORD the heavens were made, And by the breath of His mouth all their host."; Ezekiel 37:9 "Then said he unto me, Prophesy unto the wind, prophesy, son of man, and say to the wind, Thus saith the Lord God; Come from the four winds, O breath, and breathe upon these slain, that they may live.10 So I prophesied as he commanded me, and the breath came into them, and they lived, and stood up upon their feet, an exceeding great army..."; Job 34:14-15 "If he should set his heart to it and gather to himself his spirit and his breath, all flesh would perish together, and man would return to dust.".
Your Psalms quote only talks about God creating life. It says nothing about when the "life" of that creation begins. The fact that God is said to have created everything has nothing to do with whether we can terminate it. God is also believed to have knitted the fetuses of cows in their mothers' wombs. Does that mean that we cannot eat cows?
When "life" starts is really irrelevant to the question. A 3-yo child is definitely alive, no matter whether "life" started at conception or birth. A 3-yo child has no right to use another person's body without that person's consent. If it would die without an organ donation we can still not compel that donation. Once we reach birth we have the right to control our own bodies and decide when to volunteer them to become parents.
All rights are granted because they are valuable to the recipient of the right. We have laws against murder and theft because we value our lives and property and will suffer if we lose them. We have laws against discrimination on the basis of race, gender, sexual orientation, etc. because we will suffer if we are discriminated against. No rights are needed that are not wanted by the recipient of the right. A woman is a sentient being who will suffer if she is forced into parenthood against her will. An embryo is insentient and so is totally unaware of its existence, cannot possibly suffer, and could not care less about any "rights". Therefore, rights are ONLY needed by the woman and not by the embryo.
In any case, although you have the right to use religious beliefs in your own life, you have no right to impose them on other more rational people.
You can identify a generation that grew up on Twitter because their focus during an argument or debate is solely on quippy one-liners. Even if it doesn't actually contribute to the point being made.
You can identify someone who is used to You Tube videos, letting skillful editing create a false
scenario so a self-righteous bully behind the microphone gets to come off as some prophetess.
@@johnwattdotca you can identify when someone is delusional when they miss the point of said video and are not able to identify who was attempting to bully who.
@@giovan483 you can identify when someone is DEEZ NUTS
@@EddieMachetti Fuck. You got me there
I dealt with this from family members, because I'm pro-life. The devil works through people.
Wow. The speaker is really good at this. Completely calm. Doesn’t react when baited. Just simple, logical arguments clearly stated.
Sure, clam in tone, but committed a logical fallacy straight up. The issue isn't "is it living", after all plants are living things, it's that this is still an extension of a woman's body and within her rights to decide to go forward or not. And it is not "living" enough that it's going to suffer a loss anymore than killing a plant will cost it loss. She committed a strawman fallacy, calm or not. The girl simply wasn't schooled enough to know how to throw it back in her face.
also the girl was sweet and genuine; but has not been exposed to rational debate
She also took it very well.
@@RayWalker-pythonic well at the moment, when a male sperm cell enters it its not an extension of the women's body anymore, so after cell division starts your argument is invalid. FYI im personally pro abortion, especially late abortion because its a great source for human stem cells and embryos for experiments on cell tissues.
@@RayWalker-pythonic Too bad you're wrong.
I mean, would you not be calm if someone's screaming child held up signs at you?
I was born 7 months old.. emergency C-section. In this woman’s eyes I was just a clump of cells. Thanks mom for not aborting me.
Me too!
Such eloquent infants you both are 😄
Exactly. Are we going to overlook every child born after 20 weeks and living?
Was born at 27 weeks, spent a month in nicu because I wasnt sustainable😂😂😂
@@danielmorgan6285 well shit... I'm barely sustainable now and I'm in my 30's...
This is the living definition of “group think”. All of those brains, yet no signs of basic intelligence.
Yet not a single one of these Anti-Abortion advocates is EVER a scientist. If ANY of them were, their would be no debate. You cannot determine where life begins, period. Science, tells us so. You cannot determine when conscience begins, science tells us so. Not a single one of you anti-abortion advocates paid any attention in your high school science classes. You play petty word games that work well on the psyches of the mentally feeble because you cannot debate facts, everything you say is based on your feelings. And all of you need a safe space to circle jerk one another or else you get DESTROYED in the face of mass public opinion that WOMEN HAVE THE RIGHT TO CHOOSE HOW AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THEIR BODY! Until that baby comes out, there is nothing anyone else can do to tell them what they can or can not do. Suck it up Snowflakes! You have ZERO respect for Women and ZERO respect for babies, you just WANT to tell Women what they can or can not do because the wretched fantasies in your mind are far more disgusting that any abortion choice has EVER been. This woman is a hero, and you have to edit, clip, cut and frame your scenes to make the majority of the crowd of protestors look as if they are dumb. You can try as hard as you want, it doesn't work.
It's a hive mind of stupidity.
she's literally looking to others for answers. looks over the shoulder "uhhh. something something, group might know, hurrrdurr"
Not sure if this was intentional, but excellent pun
@Austin...Plenty of signs, but a severe lack of brains and intelligence.
"It's a basic human right to have an abortion."
If like to know where that has been ratified. And according to our declaration of independence, we actually have an inalienable right to life in the USA, and yet, that right has been violated for so many precious little ones.
The two are most certainly mutually exclusive.
I love how confident she is in her stupidity 😂
😂 Right !!!! 😂😂🤦
I am embarrassed for her stupidity. Let's read more signs ....
LOL !! Thats right ...
Would love a more serious conversation between two more disciplined individuals with good morale standings.
Christians seem to be becoming oppressive again when it comes to their beliefs. The Jewish people, for the majority, do not believe life comes to fruition at conception.
By "her" you mean the Psakkki look-a-like
I love how she’s so proud of herself for making a sign. Imagine if she would’ve been in the generation that sent people to the moon or smashed polio or defeated the nazis. She’s just happy she can read and write.
Her generation is too weak and selfish to try and defeat polio, go head-to-head with REAL nazis, or go to the moon. They are too addicted to things like Reddit social media dopamine and having the correct and acceptable talking points.
We don't know for a certainty that she can either read or write. Someone else could have made that poster but this one is better-looking so they chose her to be their sacrificial front woman.
Hi man, I just wanted to ask you what makes this different from a fetus. And whether this video should be criminalized ruclips.net/video/araeHtN_3Lk/видео.html
So well said.
They didn't smash polio.
I love how calm the woman at the podium is. Just killing it. The red head with the questions literally has no idea what she’s talking about.
What gets me is that she was ill prepared and she kept looking for support from her lost followers in their sinking ship!
@@MrLionheart777 Because to them it's so obvious, that they're unprepared to deal with basic and outdated arguments because they've never had the chance to some up with a counterargument in detail
@@Miguel-de3py so you need to prepare to counter a basic or outdated argument?
@@perfidiousalbion9975 Yeah, if you've never dissected it in detail before, otherwise you'll get overwhelmed or confused, which is a big nono during a conversation like these
Nut psaki's kid....
If a baby is sustainable when he's inside the womb because he needs help to stay alive, what about when he's laying in a crib with no food or water and someone has to sustain it when it's out of the womb??
This young lady was not even able to answer ANY of her questions! Was looking for an argument with NO facts! I’m happy that this issue is going to the states for us to truly have conversation and vote on the matter.
Me too, I can't wait to see how many states vote for the right to abortion! Even the red states - WOOOO.
@@mariec3733awww thats cute i cant wait to see how many states completely ban and outlaw abortion bc its wrong and illegal
@Katherine Omega ...where have you been Katherine? Majority of states, even red ones, voted for it to remain legal 🤣
@@mariec3733 abortion should be legal in all 50 states
@@jasonweinstock1282 the reason you exist is because your mother didn't abort you so you have no right to tell that abortion should be legal
Respect for the speaker. She kept her cool, she presented good arguments, and called out bullshit when it became apparent.
The red head kept on looking to the audience for an answer,
In 99% of cases where these radicals protest, all you need to do is ask them to back up their protest with facts, and ask them basic questions. They can't back up their point. This speaker did a magnificent job doing that!
@@jdgolf499 My view is that it is a fact that all babies deserve to be wanted, loved, and cared for. And it is also a fact that unwanted babies that are born do not receive this most of the time and there is an overall negative impact to society. My pro abortion stance stems from individual and societal well being. Life is more than a concept of a living being.
Because it was all scripted 😂
What BS did she call out? They talked past each other. The mature public speaker at the podium kept her cool against a flustered teenager in over her head, but the former asked absurd questions that she herself failed to answer. For example, she asked how a fetus is "living" but then failed to acknowledge that a fetus is a parasite that forms in response to alien matter (sperm) entering the body. In the end, she reduced the argument to women shouldn't have sex if they don't want to get pregnant. That's not her choice to make for other women.
My favorite moment ever was when I was in the 9th grade. Every student had to pick a political topic and research it as thoroughly as possible. I did something on taxes...I honestly don't remember.
A classmate of mine, who was ardently pro-choice, chose abortion to no one's surprise. At the end of the semester, however, she had become pro-life after interviewing people and doctors who had performed abortions but decided not to in the future. The ultrasounds were heart-rending.
"I did something on taxes..." lol
She really thought that the poster would be so devastating 😂😂😂😂
Ikr. Her body language and facial expressions are that of a child
When my Dr. thought I was 8 weeks pregnant he wanted me to have my first ultrasound which revealed I was actually 6 weeks pregnant. Before the technician said anything, I saw a little white spot pulsating on the screen and she confirmed to me it was my son's heartbeat. It was amazing! Also, whatever happened to the babies choice, they don't get one! All their "basic human rights" are stripped away from them.
That is why they refuse to acknowledge it is a life. If they just call it a "clump of cells" then they can ignore that they are refusing to let that human have a choice
This is why the mainstream society is degeneracy , the conservative is of good moral values and the right way. Sadly, young people love to seek pleasures.
@@GiantProcrastiNation sperm is alive but people don't think twice about shooting a load into a rubber and throwing "potential life" in a trash can.
@@catherine4077 that's cute
This collectivist bich actually thinks she's a conservative
Foh you collectivist totalitarian Commie leech
Exactly right. And these women are feminists. Do they not care about all the FEMALE children, FEMALE fetuses, and FEMALE clumps of cells they are killing?
Our education system is failing. She doesn't even understand basic arguments for life. It's like she has never heard this before
She just hasn’t seen the poster…
It's your self-righteous attitude that needs educating. You don't understand the basic nature of life.
You have to respect the living first, and that's the woman. Abortions have been happening since the
beginning of time, and that's men punching or kicking a woman so they don't have another child.
This is why public debates about such topics are a bad idea. Too much depends on how evenly matched the two debatees are.
Public debates are ultimately nothing more but contests in rhetoric.
these protesters are nothing more than a subversive cult.
failing? it has already fallen my friend!
This girl is the living embodiment of "I'm Pro-Choice..... now that I'm safe and born. "
@N A it’s NOT her own. She can’t form a coherent argument without relying on the people behind her to feed her lines.
@N A lol her own viewpoint lol what a joke. She can't even make an argument how can it be her viewpoint. It's someone else's viewpoint that she was convinced as correct.
Lol because everything is hunky dory after being born! Who knew?!
@Phillis "Dick" Black actually that's incorrect. That's the second main argument you libs in an attempt to justify murder.
@N A lol who did I insult? What did I say that was toxic? Is it that I called someone a liberal? That's a political affiliation not an insult lol. And liberals tend to be pro abortion so assuming one is a liberal based on their stance on abortion is not a big stretch.
"It's funny that everyone who is for abortion has already been born." - Ronald Reagan
It's funny that everyone who is against abortion has already been born too! duh? 😁
I hate when people lose argument after argument and just move on to other flawed arguments unable/unwilling to acknowledge the truth!
That's liberals for you in a nutshell.
It’s nearly impossible for them to admit they don’t have all the answers. Because they worship themselves.
My mother pretends to be asleep
Liberals. Basically all of them
Well, when the brain is hardwired to believe one thing, it's very hard to unwire it. It takes years sometimes. To acknowledge the truth, she would have to destroy those neurological pathways she formed in her brain years ago. Even when presented with the facts, people will still deny it.
Best I've ever seen. She nailed every point. The girl standing there alive protesting knowing her mother wanted to Abort her... How SAD is that ...
I hope when her and her mom march side by side with abortion signs the mom has the "I'm with stupid >" shirt on pointing at her daughter, wishing so bad she could have aborted her. Man the disappointment that girl must have been to that mother to still think that way.
This was too easy. That girl was possibly the poorest debater I’ve ever seen.
The "Psaki Look- alike" needs to ask her mother....Mom why didn't you abort me? you could have saved college tuition dollars that you could have used to buy more cigarettes, Camels that is!!!
I don't wanna be that guy but:
*there
@Scott Vaughan LMAO 🤣 😂
@@TP-ne6ez Right
“My mom argued for this issue in college and I’m fighting for the same issue today.”
So in other words your mom decided against abortion at least once, consider yourself lucky ma’am
This is actually a good point. If she had a little bit of sense in her, she'd realise that her mother fought for the right to not let her into this world, her mother wanted to kill before she was even born. And that is cruel.
@@KLM1883 its funny coz she didnt lol
The student could have pointed out what resulted because of her mum not aborting, and won the argument.
“I couldn’t make anything even remotely resembling a coherent argument for my position and against yours, so I really can’t understand why you don’t accept my point of view and continue to insist on making me listen to yours. That really like, sucks, and stuff”
@Dj Daniel Mic drop! Boom!
It is astonishing how stupid the young generation is, when it comes to many of these issues.
I love how she needs a whole crowd to help her argue. These people need a mob to win.
And still they lose every time
*to lose
"Blessed be the fruit, Commander Waterford"
Hence cancel culture
Mob rule is one of the most dangerous forces out there.