Love Goblins. They are great spellcasters because they can disengage and run away and they are great Barbarian, especially Ancestral Guardian. You run in, hit up to two of the enemies with advantage from Reckless, run away and now the enemies have disadvantage to attack your allies and if they decide to run after you, your allies get an Opportunity Attack. This it especially good if one of your allies decides to take the Sentinel feat so your enemies definitely cant run after you.
Another synergy is to take advantage of the summons damage immunities. For example casting fireball on top of a Fire elemental, or cloudkill with undead and fiends. Great build by the way!
Just found your channel, awesome builds, while I am an optimiser through and through and respect extreme power, some of my favourite builds recently have been these cool synergies and more fun concepts, love all the combos and creative ideas for this one!
This build sounds amazing. I love the idea of having specialized summons for different scenarios, it makes the game more fun when you have lots of choices.
you could also consider adding artillerist artificer to have multiple different on command sources of damage or even temp hp for your summons, since the summons don’t need a bonus action to command
I love summoners, and I NEVER would have thought to use the Evocation Wizard as a base for one. Great for an offensive blaster base I remember doing something similar with my War Mage Wizard. Not as Bursty, but they were hard to kill, and had decent sustained DPR and conserved spell slots thanks to summon utility, the Durable Magic Feature and Arcane Deflection + Power Surge (as crappy an ability as it is, we take what we can get). My groups are moving away from 5e sadly but, if I ever get a chance, I'll try this out.
You could post screenshots of what the build would look like at certain levels so we can get a better idea. Very nice combo, reminds me of my turret based artificer centaur.
Highly advise the use of tiny servant on wizards as it adds a bunch of little concentration free servants to the battle field that can use your backpack for full cover, or even ride on a familiar for strafing runs. They are even better if you can get access to the magic stone cantrip for better attack and damage rolls.
I like the idea of attacking the golem to proc it’s responses, that’s good! I’m not sure about flight as you describe because steeds need to be anataomically appropriate , unless you have flying entity grapple you ( which i don’t know that a beholderkin can do , unless it can like bite your robes and thus lift you ?! ) if it grappled you or could fly you ( this is good with summon beast for low level druids)
@@Yarradras The Beholderkin has a STR of 16 and you could easily just have it grapple your small creature and fly off with it at half speed if you wanted to be that much of a downer. The character can choose to fail the check willingly and thus they would gain the flight speed. Grapples also do not have reoccurring checks unless contested so unless you're going to be -that- DM that goes out of the way to punish creativity with unnecessary checks, there's no reason not to let them do it. The character is already having to use a 4th level spell slot, which is one higher than the Fly spell as well as get a VERY specific component that can be prohibitively expensive depending how generous you are with gold in the campaign, not to mention the Beholder kin suffers the same weakness as other spells in that it can be dispelled, concentration can be lost on it and on top of that can be killed relativity easily I think putting unneeded restrictions on it is just punishing players for trying to do something interesting.
I would have done dip in Druid circle of shepherd to buff up Summons and dip in sorcerer to access extended and quicken meta magic to make summons extra beefy
That's a six level 'dip' into druid and a three level 'dip' into sorcerer, that's absolutely not worth it if you want to primarily build a wizard like this. Better to take the one level dip into wizard and primarily play druid if you want to use shepard circle, and also it's MAD af
This build and tactics are amazing. My DM will be so upset when I build this. Going to take some getting used to using, but going to be well worth it. Fantastic job my friend 🎉🎉🎉
I made a Goblin wizard summoner based off this build. However, I made an Order of Scribes wizard to infiltrate better. I was able to have the summon follow my spell book’s manifest mind with me casting my spells from the mind construct.
Very thoughtful and cool build! The Stone construct could also be nice against enemy casters preventing Counterspell if they fail the save. The constructs' major weakness is that their attacks are non-magical. So you might run into similar problems as with the devil summon.
So, what I often try to do with my summoner characters is try to have as many minions on the board throughout the day. For example a wizard summoner I played was a necromancy summoner who only utilized 3 skeletons, but also added in a summon greater demon spell, and a tasha's summon giving him 5 summons on the field very consistently. When combined with the magic stone for the skeletons I can deal ~61 DPR at level 8 with just my summons.
You took this up to 13th level which means that there is still plenty more that can be done with this going forward. Summon greater fiend is a great spell to pick up because you can drop concentration on it and then summon your beholderkin which would fly above its reach and you don't have to go any farther as far as levels go to get this. Find familiar also gets you another summon. You can take the magic stone cantrip which will be helpful because of stuff I'll mention later. You can take 3 levels in druid to get summon beasts and a summon option from your subclass if you pick one of those subclasses You could take 3 levels in battle smith artificer to get a mech that follows you around and a homunculus servant that you have to spend gold on, as well as making two of your artificer infusions replicate magic item and picking spellwrought tattoo both times so that every time you get two tattoos you can put on anyone (including your own familiars) that allow them to cast find familiar without material components one time. Not to mention the most OP summoning spell ever that you failed to pick up: animate objects. It's not a conjuration spell because it's better.
This is perfect I have a character who has plenty of summonable creatures and beans in her deck like Arsenal this maybe I'll be able to bring her to life!❤
Oh I love this! But I'll add 1 more thing...I'll start as an Artificer 1 then move to Wizard, so I can get Medium armor and shield proficiency! And since the Artificer is a half-caster I won't lose on the spell slot progress and it gives Constitution saving throw. My apology my min/max personally can't help it xD
1lv of hexblade would significantly improve our defense (merdium armor + shield) and burst damage (hexblade curse + magic missile) If warlock isn't a good option, artificer gives us CON saves and thieves' tools
I'm going to explore doing this but with another smaller race. I had an evocation wizard that as a gnome but he technically died so I'd want to start from scratch
I love the fact that such a great synergy is just ... Play a wizzard Harry. 🎉😂 There is also a the fact that you do get acces to spells that summon multiple creatures and they can dogpile while sculpt spells should have enought slots . Magic items wise this biuld needs nearly nothing besides what all wizzards want that is a glaring weaknes with the exeption of a ring of free action so the player can avoid suffering incapacitation into a free fall because that causes an automatic concentration loss . Addition wise the only thing i could come up with is the classic Hexblade dip for medium armour, shields, extra deadly magic missiles eldrich blast and maybe the interception fighting style from a feat or just trained for gold and downtime. That last one is kind of optional because of counterspell wars, shield and absorb elements being just so much more important then reducing damage on a summon you are riding.
Scribe Wizard is the best summoner. Cast Rope Trick then get out of the battle field. Use Minor Illusion to hide the Rope Trick opening. Summon something nasty and cast additional spells from your censor.
How would you build the 3.5 Beguiler in 5e? My attempt was 3 Arcane Trickster X Illusionist with Sage bg, maybe even dropping Rogue all together and taking Charlatan or Criminal. I want a rapier and more skills though. Hmm... I'd be very interested in your take.
A clay golem yes, but for the clay version of the summon construct it has resistance but not the healing effect. And with the resistance we can proc the reaction attack with the least amount of damage to the summon as possible
I agree, most of the other schools make better summoners than Conjurerers. I think Diviners are just great and Abjuerers make good Conjurerers as well. Conjuerers don't uniquely add enough to their summon spells to really do anything.
I feel like it's necessary to say that you can't just hide in the middle of a battlefield with tons of enemies looking at you. Your comments seemed to brush over that and thus imply you could. You'd have to run away behind bushes/trees, or inside around a corner/wall, then hide. Normally an invisibility spell would solve this and let us hide, except not in this build since that would use up our concentration we're using for summons.
I have re-examined your build and I have a criticism. Every one of those summon spells has an expensive material component associated with it. If you do not have a generous DM that permits you to get these then you’re a little screwed for summoning. I think this is why the conjuration wizard Has that low level ability to conjure small objects with no value limit. That would completely negate the expensive material component problem. I’m considering doing this build as a level six conjuration wizard and level five artificer. After that I think you can go either way with the rest of the build.
Ik this one might be ez but could you do a build that's something like a Red Mage from ffxiv? Best thing I've managed to do is a rogue/sorcerer but it doesn't feel right lol.
As overplayed as it is, Hexblade 5/Divine Soul 5+ is the best way I've done it. Since they rely on chaining spells, Quickened spell is your friend. I usually cast back and forth between Eldritch Blast (Jolt) and Chromatic Orb (Ver-element spells). At lvl 9 or 10 of Divine Soul, grab Holy Weapon for the Enchanted burst combo. Later later on, grab Fire Storm and Sunburst for Verflare and Verholy, respectively. As an aside, Beacon of Hope is good stand-in for the Magic Barrier skill, and Hexblade's Curse or Bane is basically Addle. Hope this gives you some ideas 😊
I like the build, but doesn’t summon construct have that issue of non magical bludgeoning damage? I feel like that can really hinder the value of the guaranteed reaction attack to an extent, but I’m pretty sure summon greater demons has the same problem and people still think it’s good!
Technically speaking. Wouldn’t the Evocation Wizard capstone make it so you wouldn’t need to roll damage for your Summon? RAW a spell of 1st through 5th level is still a spell of that level even if it’s cast with a higher level spell slot. This is shown in how Globe of Invulnerability interacts with spells. Overchannel doesn’t require the spell to be Evocation, it just has to be a Wizard spell of 1st trough 5th level that does damage. It also doesn’t say that it proc’s when rolling damage, just when you cast the spell. RAW (if not RAI), that means that the 6th level Upcast Beholderkin would be doing guaranteed 17 psychic damage per ray, or 25 on a Crit. If all rays hit that puts the Summons DPR between 51 and 75
Depends how you rule, I think it may not apply because it says "when you cast the spell" meaning that you can choose to do extra damage when you cast, but not at later turns. Definitely ambiguous enough that your DM could rule either way 👍
@@DnD_Daily my main reasoning for why it would apply to the entire spell is that it’s worded as affecting the spell and the casting is when the ability is triggered. Meanwhile Tempest Cleric’s channel Divinity which has a very similar purpose, explicitly only applies to a single damage roll, because it triggers WHEN you roll damage. Which is what prevents their Extra Spell, Call Lightning, from being the most powerful spell ever. That difference is what leads to my interpretation.
It can be argued on a technicality either way but RAI as posted by Crawford in regards to Overchannel and Bigbys Hands that it was intended at first, OVerchannel, to be one turn only but then was changed to "spells duration." But while the Summons can be dispelled they do not use the spells block but instead they use their own and thus are not apart of the spell after it's cast. While you're maintaining concentration on the spell to keep the Summon on this plane, you, and thus the spell, are not doing damage, the creature is and most times, the damage its doing isn't even magical without a feature so it can easily be argued that it doesn't work. The only reason the creature can be dispelled (and has concentration) is because your concentration is keeping the creature on the material plane ( or wherever you are) not the creature is the spell. So it can be heavily argued its not the spell doing any damage again but the creature you're holding here.
How often is there nothing around a small creature can't use to break LoS? A 2 foot tall goblin can hide behind so many common things, even without being creative, so yeah, unless you're playing a very unfun DM style and/or having completley empty rooms/caves/forests, it will be very common.
And even then, if your DM is being a buzzkill and you really want to expose it, just play a lightfoot halfling and continue the rogue theme and multiclass into rogue two levels for Cunning action and literally just hide behind your medium sized teammates every round RAW. Honestly though, if your DM is going out of their way to not let a small creature hide in every scene/combat under the excuse "there's no place for you to hide" then they sound very hostile and likely creatively bankrupt and boring and you should probably leave.
Even so I don't see the use of hiding in combat unless you have constant cover and are trying to escape. Enemies still know your last location, are aware, and actively searching for danger. Being hidden isn't being invisible, as soon as you step out from behind cover your location is known.
True, but if an enemy wants to search for you during their turn it typically takes an action for them to search, so usually not worth it. Though true, you may still be subject to AOE effects.
I got so excited about the title because summoners are my favorite archetype in pretty much any game but boy was I disappointed at how underwhelming this video was... I mean, the idea was excellent, don't get me wrong, the potential was there, but it was so rushed and overall not specific enough, it kinda came off as lazy. I expected something really fresh and well-planned and got basically, a lineage and a spell list. No cool mechanic or synergy, besides the sculpt spell thing that doesn't really count because we're supposed to be a Summoner, who relies on... Summons? So why aren't we talking Planar binding, Conjuration Wizard, Creation Bard, Shepherd druid and such?
I was waiting for the "synergy", even trying to make sense how the evocation wizard subclass features could affect some conjuration spell in some way... what a shame this was nothing but clickbait.
Ha ha 😂, No! Build weaker characters in D&D. Let the DM kill your characters. Don't take god-like Powers until Level 10. 5th edition characters are too strong play D&D like 3.5.
A Goblin Wizard riding atop a Beholderkin, and casting Fireballs of DOOM everywhere. I understand the mission.
Finally, we can play chess using demons
That would be such a good backstory for the character though, like they used to be a chess grandmaster or smth
Love Goblins. They are great spellcasters because they can disengage and run away and they are great Barbarian, especially Ancestral Guardian. You run in, hit up to two of the enemies with advantage from Reckless, run away and now the enemies have disadvantage to attack your allies and if they decide to run after you, your allies get an Opportunity Attack. This it especially good if one of your allies decides to take the Sentinel feat so your enemies definitely cant run after you.
Another synergy is to take advantage of the summons damage immunities. For example casting fireball on top of a Fire elemental, or cloudkill with undead and fiends. Great build by the way!
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
I was really really impressed by these synergies, I never thought of them! Really cool!
Just found your channel, awesome builds, while I am an optimiser through and through and respect extreme power, some of my favourite builds recently have been these cool synergies and more fun concepts, love all the combos and creative ideas for this one!
Thanks! And welcome aboard! I can respect a super tuned build but I’m a total sucker for something quirky!
Well said, and even though it isn't super tuned, this build is extremely optimized, very cool.
This build sounds amazing. I love the idea of having specialized summons for different scenarios, it makes the game more fun when you have lots of choices.
I mean kind of but not really. You're going to be summoning the same one in 99% of scenarios. The Beholder-kin.
I love this build! Well done and very inspiring!
you could also consider adding artillerist artificer to have multiple different on command sources of damage or even temp hp for your summons, since the summons don’t need a bonus action to command
This was surprisingly rad! I've always wanted to build a summoner but never thought of Evocation wizard to make it work. Genius!
I love summoners, and I NEVER would have thought to use the Evocation Wizard as a base for one. Great for an offensive blaster base
I remember doing something similar with my War Mage Wizard. Not as Bursty, but they were hard to kill, and had decent sustained DPR and conserved spell slots thanks to summon utility, the Durable Magic Feature and Arcane Deflection + Power Surge (as crappy an ability as it is, we take what we can get).
My groups are moving away from 5e sadly but, if I ever get a chance, I'll try this out.
You could post screenshots of what the build would look like at certain levels so we can get a better idea.
Very nice combo, reminds me of my turret based artificer centaur.
Or better...link us a character made?
Highly advise the use of tiny servant on wizards as it adds a bunch of little concentration free servants to the battle field that can use your backpack for full cover, or even ride on a familiar for strafing runs. They are even better if you can get access to the magic stone cantrip for better attack and damage rolls.
The best "Summoner" in 5e is an Echo Knight Fighter with two or more levels of War Wizard.
EVOCATION?! You absolute mad lad!
I like the idea of attacking the golem to proc it’s responses, that’s good! I’m
not sure about flight as you describe because steeds need to be anataomically appropriate , unless you have flying entity grapple you ( which i don’t know that a beholderkin can do , unless it can like bite your robes and thus lift you ?! ) if it grappled you or could fly you ( this is good with summon beast for low
level druids)
Just wanted to write my own comment that I as a dm would not allow riding one of those. At least not without regular check if you fall off
@@Yarradras The Beholderkin has a STR of 16 and you could easily just have it grapple your small creature and fly off with it at half speed if you wanted to be that much of a downer. The character can choose to fail the check willingly and thus they would gain the flight speed. Grapples also do not have reoccurring checks unless contested so unless you're going to be -that- DM that goes out of the way to punish creativity with unnecessary checks, there's no reason not to let them do it.
The character is already having to use a 4th level spell slot, which is one higher than the Fly spell as well as get a VERY specific component that can be prohibitively expensive depending how generous you are with gold in the campaign, not to mention the Beholder kin suffers the same weakness as other spells in that it can be dispelled, concentration can be lost on it and on top of that can be killed relativity easily I think putting unneeded restrictions on it is just punishing players for trying to do something interesting.
@@Yarradras but like why?
I would have done dip in Druid circle of shepherd to buff up Summons and dip in sorcerer to access extended and quicken meta magic to make summons extra beefy
That's a six level 'dip' into druid and a three level 'dip' into sorcerer, that's absolutely not worth it if you want to primarily build a wizard like this. Better to take the one level dip into wizard and primarily play druid if you want to use shepard circle, and also it's MAD af
This build and tactics are amazing. My DM will be so upset when I build this. Going to take some getting used to using, but going to be well worth it. Fantastic job my friend 🎉🎉🎉
I made a Goblin wizard summoner based off this build. However, I made an Order of Scribes wizard to infiltrate better. I was able to have the summon follow my spell book’s manifest mind with me casting my spells from the mind construct.
Very thoughtful and cool build! The Stone construct could also be nice against enemy casters preventing Counterspell if they fail the save.
The constructs' major weakness is that their attacks are non-magical. So you might run into similar problems as with the devil summon.
So, what I often try to do with my summoner characters is try to have as many minions on the board throughout the day. For example a wizard summoner I played was a necromancy summoner who only utilized 3 skeletons, but also added in a summon greater demon spell, and a tasha's summon giving him 5 summons on the field very consistently. When combined with the magic stone for the skeletons I can deal ~61 DPR at level 8 with just my summons.
Thats damn cool!
Nice, Another Fun build to try uit! 😁
You took this up to 13th level which means that there is still plenty more that can be done with this going forward.
Summon greater fiend is a great spell to pick up because you can drop concentration on it and then summon your beholderkin which would fly above its reach and you don't have to go any farther as far as levels go to get this.
Find familiar also gets you another summon.
You can take the magic stone cantrip which will be helpful because of stuff I'll mention later.
You can take 3 levels in druid to get summon beasts and a summon option from your subclass if you pick one of those subclasses
You could take 3 levels in battle smith artificer to get a mech that follows you around and a homunculus servant that you have to spend gold on, as well as making two of your artificer infusions replicate magic item and picking spellwrought tattoo both times so that every time you get two tattoos you can put on anyone (including your own familiars) that allow them to cast find familiar without material components one time.
Not to mention the most OP summoning spell ever that you failed to pick up: animate objects. It's not a conjuration spell because it's better.
My next character for sure
When you can't find friends and so you just summon a party for yourself lol
This is perfect I have a character who has plenty of summonable creatures and beans in her deck like Arsenal this maybe I'll be able to bring her to life!❤
6 lvl chug for Shepherd Druid and get "Mighty Summons" and get some blasts spells from there.
It's about the only thing I would add.
Oh I love this! But I'll add 1 more thing...I'll start as an Artificer 1 then move to Wizard, so I can get Medium armor and shield proficiency! And since the Artificer is a half-caster I won't lose on the spell slot progress and it gives Constitution saving throw.
My apology my min/max personally can't help it xD
I miss the Summon Greater eDmon spell from this build, but i understand it might not fit.
Nice combo!
also think about summoning spells that don't need concentration, like animate dead and faithful hound
1lv of hexblade would significantly improve our defense (merdium armor + shield) and burst damage (hexblade curse + magic missile)
If warlock isn't a good option, artificer gives us CON saves and thieves' tools
Also I believe the summoned monsters also get the curse effects.
@@Wouldyoukindly4545 unfortunately they don't, curse damage only happens when YOU deal damage, the summons are different creatures
I'm going to explore doing this but with another smaller race. I had an evocation wizard that as a gnome but he technically died so I'd want to start from scratch
I love the build! However as a DM i wouldn't allow spells requiring Somatic component to be cast while standing on the head of a floating beholder.
Every DM has that right 👍
I love the fact that such a great synergy is just ... Play a wizzard Harry. 🎉😂
There is also a the fact that you do get acces to spells that summon multiple creatures and they can dogpile while sculpt spells should have enought slots .
Magic items wise this biuld needs nearly nothing besides what all wizzards want that is a glaring weaknes with the exeption of a ring of free action so the player can avoid suffering incapacitation into a free fall because that causes an automatic concentration loss .
Addition wise the only thing i could come up with is the classic Hexblade dip for medium armour, shields, extra deadly magic missiles eldrich blast and maybe the interception fighting style from a feat or just trained for gold and downtime. That last one is kind of optional because of counterspell wars, shield and absorb elements being just so much more important then reducing damage on a summon you are riding.
Scribe Wizard is the best summoner. Cast Rope Trick then get out of the battle field. Use Minor Illusion to hide the Rope Trick opening. Summon something nasty and cast additional spells from your censor.
Soul knife rogue would be a very useful and on theme 3 level start to this class I think
How would you build the 3.5 Beguiler in 5e? My attempt was 3 Arcane Trickster X Illusionist with Sage bg, maybe even dropping Rogue all together and taking Charlatan or Criminal. I want a rapier and more skills though. Hmm... I'd be very interested in your take.
Sadly, i would be suprised if you went with conjuration wizard for summoner.
acid splash would heal the golem would it not? Good idea procing the reaction, but ya gotta pick a different damage type right?
A clay golem yes, but for the clay version of the summon construct it has resistance but not the healing effect. And with the resistance we can proc the reaction attack with the least amount of damage to the summon as possible
@@DnD_Daily fantastic. :)
I agree, most of the other schools make better summoners than Conjurerers. I think Diviners are just great and Abjuerers make good Conjurerers as well. Conjuerers don't uniquely add enough to their summon spells to really do anything.
Greta vid! One thing though: your camera quality is rather low so when you can an upgrade would be useful, but good camera or not I love your content!
I like this idea. But you seem to be fighting in a Gears of War arena. With an immense amount waist high cover to take the hide action behind
“You wouldn’t expect us to pick Evocation Wizard-“
No. I didn’t expect the goblin part….
Well at least we kept you guessing 😂
when do you unlock your first summon spell?
I feel like it's necessary to say that you can't just hide in the middle of a battlefield with tons of enemies looking at you. Your comments seemed to brush over that and thus imply you could. You'd have to run away behind bushes/trees, or inside around a corner/wall, then hide. Normally an invisibility spell would solve this and let us hide, except not in this build since that would use up our concentration we're using for summons.
I have re-examined your build and I have a criticism. Every one of those summon spells has an expensive material component associated with it. If you do not have a generous DM that permits you to get these then you’re a little screwed for summoning. I think this is why the conjuration wizard Has that low level ability to conjure small objects with no value limit. That would completely negate the expensive material component problem. I’m considering doing this build as a level six conjuration wizard and level five artificer. After that I think you can go either way with the rest of the build.
Good point!
Ik this one might be ez but could you do a build that's something like a Red Mage from ffxiv? Best thing I've managed to do is a rogue/sorcerer but it doesn't feel right lol.
We'll put it on our list!
I second this! Red Mage is my favorite FF class, but outside of College of Swords Bard I can't think of many ways to make it work
As overplayed as it is, Hexblade 5/Divine Soul 5+ is the best way I've done it. Since they rely on chaining spells, Quickened spell is your friend. I usually cast back and forth between Eldritch Blast (Jolt) and Chromatic Orb (Ver-element spells). At lvl 9 or 10 of Divine Soul, grab Holy Weapon for the Enchanted burst combo. Later later on, grab Fire Storm and Sunburst for Verflare and Verholy, respectively. As an aside, Beacon of Hope is good stand-in for the Magic Barrier skill, and Hexblade's Curse or Bane is basically Addle. Hope this gives you some ideas 😊
@@a.z.pantera5577 That's a really solid idea! Next time I'm in a new campaign I might try that combo out too!
@@quincyadams9499 always a pleasure to help a fellow Red Main
I like the build, but doesn’t summon construct have that issue of non magical bludgeoning damage? I feel like that can really hinder the value of the guaranteed reaction attack to an extent, but I’m pretty sure summon greater demons has the same problem and people still think it’s good!
Technically speaking. Wouldn’t the Evocation Wizard capstone make it so you wouldn’t need to roll damage for your Summon?
RAW a spell of 1st through 5th level is still a spell of that level even if it’s cast with a higher level spell slot. This is shown in how Globe of Invulnerability interacts with spells.
Overchannel doesn’t require the spell to be Evocation, it just has to be a Wizard spell of 1st trough 5th level that does damage. It also doesn’t say that it proc’s when rolling damage, just when you cast the spell.
RAW (if not RAI), that means that the 6th level Upcast Beholderkin would be doing guaranteed 17 psychic damage per ray, or 25 on a Crit. If all rays hit that puts the Summons DPR between 51 and 75
Depends how you rule, I think it may not apply because it says "when you cast the spell" meaning that you can choose to do extra damage when you cast, but not at later turns. Definitely ambiguous enough that your DM could rule either way 👍
@@DnD_Daily my main reasoning for why it would apply to the entire spell is that it’s worded as affecting the spell and the casting is when the ability is triggered.
Meanwhile Tempest Cleric’s channel Divinity which has a very similar purpose, explicitly only applies to a single damage roll, because it triggers WHEN you roll damage. Which is what prevents their Extra Spell, Call Lightning, from being the most powerful spell ever.
That difference is what leads to my interpretation.
It can be argued on a technicality either way but RAI as posted by Crawford in regards to Overchannel and Bigbys Hands that it was intended at first, OVerchannel, to be one turn only but then was changed to "spells duration." But while the Summons can be dispelled they do not use the spells block but instead they use their own and thus are not apart of the spell after it's cast. While you're maintaining concentration on the spell to keep the Summon on this plane, you, and thus the spell, are not doing damage, the creature is and most times, the damage its doing isn't even magical without a feature so it can easily be argued that it doesn't work. The only reason the creature can be dispelled (and has concentration) is because your concentration is keeping the creature on the material plane ( or wherever you are) not the creature is the spell. So it can be heavily argued its not the spell doing any damage again but the creature you're holding here.
The summon is not the spell. The spell summons the summon. Therefore the spell does no damage.
You saying "Eldritch Bolt" hurts me in my non-existent soul.
Man, I wish Conjuration Wizard was better
The problem is that it’s lvl 14 ability is really good with multiple summon spells, but those spells slow down combat so much it isn’t fun
The main problem is getting all the material components 😢
Prepare for talky sessions, underwhelming combat encounters and that sweet DM hate for being a top munchkin but bad player :D
Umm... how are you just hiding in the middle of combat, or is this build assuming there's a way to block LoS every turn?
How often is there nothing around a small creature can't use to break LoS? A 2 foot tall goblin can hide behind so many common things, even without being creative, so yeah, unless you're playing a very unfun DM style and/or having completley empty rooms/caves/forests, it will be very common.
And even then, if your DM is being a buzzkill and you really want to expose it, just play a lightfoot halfling and continue the rogue theme and multiclass into rogue two levels for Cunning action and literally just hide behind your medium sized teammates every round RAW. Honestly though, if your DM is going out of their way to not let a small creature hide in every scene/combat under the excuse "there's no place for you to hide" then they sound very hostile and likely creatively bankrupt and boring and you should probably leave.
Even so I don't see the use of hiding in combat unless you have constant cover and are trying to escape. Enemies still know your last location, are aware, and actively searching for danger. Being hidden isn't being invisible, as soon as you step out from behind cover your location is known.
True, but if an enemy wants to search for you during their turn it typically takes an action for them to search, so usually not worth it. Though true, you may still be subject to AOE effects.
I got so excited about the title because summoners are my favorite archetype in pretty much any game but boy was I disappointed at how underwhelming this video was...
I mean, the idea was excellent, don't get me wrong, the potential was there, but it was so rushed and overall not specific enough, it kinda came off as lazy. I expected something really fresh and well-planned and got basically, a lineage and a spell list. No cool mechanic or synergy, besides the sculpt spell thing that doesn't really count because we're supposed to be a Summoner, who relies on... Summons? So why aren't we talking Planar binding, Conjuration Wizard, Creation Bard, Shepherd druid and such?
I was waiting for the "synergy", even trying to make sense how the evocation wizard subclass features could affect some conjuration spell in some way... what a shame this was nothing but clickbait.
Ha ha 😂, No! Build weaker characters in D&D. Let the DM kill your characters. Don't take god-like Powers until Level 10. 5th edition characters are too strong play D&D like 3.5.