The Mist Master: A Blind Fighting Beast | D&D 5e Ranger Build
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- Here is the Mist Master! A D&D Beast Master Ranger that utilizes the Blind Fighting Style, Nets, and his best big ol' crab friend Eugene to make an incredibly unique build.
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0:00 The Mist Master
0:32 Why Giant Crab?
1:36 NETS
3:16 Action Economy
4:00 Other Spells
4:18 Flavor / Theme
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Did you notice our 3 Secret Eugene Krabs throughout the video?
keep up the great work
build idea not sheer this would work but echo knight assassin you have this noble knight and his shadow is this twisted jester. i have know idea if this would work but it sounded interesting
I caught just one
This build is suboptimal.
I mean, really suboptimal...
@@Stone_Orchids that’s the whole point. He took underused and maybe not so viable subclasses, fighting style and weapons etc to make a build that was somewhat good if not viable. They point was not to say this was the new meta most optimal Ranger ever.
@@the_shiny_skorupi1874 the subclass, fighting style and weapons are perfectly fine, the idea is just not well executed
Such a clean build. Love how you get straight to the point. Sometimes I just need the idea of the build not a 30+ minute deep dive of every possible decision to make.
Only other way to use net in my opinion is with the catapult spell
you could do battlemaster with sharpshooter. Bonus action net throw 10 or 15 feet no disadvantage
Well... Catapult also damage the object launched so...
I was thinking about a Bugbear, Arcane Trickster Rogue, so you get Surprise Attack damage + Catapult damage, and the enemy is restrained. I would also grab the Skulker feat, so you don't drop stealth if you miss.
I don't think you can use a Net as a Pact Weapon (Warlock) or a Divine Weapon (Paladin), but if you could find a way to get your Net to return to your hand as a bonus action, that would make the build even better.
@@MrNorthumberland85 arcane knight weapon bond?
@Christopher Sea
That is correct. The Pact of The Blade gives you only melee weapons in its original form and with the Improved Pact Weapon Incantation you get the options of Light/Heavy Crossbow or Light/Longbow too. No other purely ranged weapons.
love this idea it really fits for a pirate/seafaring campaign I'm part of rn, and the fog cloud will work great in an area like the deck of a ship
Another good way to use the net is with the quick toss maneuver, that let you draw and attack with it using a bonus action even when you didn't take the attack action before. In this build, the maneuver would be a nice way to cast fog cloud and restrain with the net all in the first turn of combat.
This build is not only powerful and original, is even thematically incredible!
A Triton that uses a Net and has a Giant crab pet, wow man I love it.
This should be the goal of every build in dnd in my opinion. Wonderful.
The Crab being named Eugene just makes me happy!
A strong net build I’ve wanted to play is an Eldritch Knight sniper. I take a one level dip into Artificer for Int Magic Stones, Mending and some more low level spell versatility. Then go full Eldritch Knight with sharpshooter. (I want to reflavor the magic stones as rifle bullets and imagine I’m reloading when I cast the cantrip) Choose two nets as your bonded weapons.
Before you get extra attack, using your action to net is fair exchange. Once you get War Magic at 7th level, you can cast a cantrip like Mind Sliver and then bonus action a net.
While you still need to use a lower Dex for the nets, you’ve got Archery FS and Sharpshooter AND familiars help action. Between the disadvantage on Dex savings throws while restrained, Mind Sliver, Silvery Barbs and eventually Eldritch Strike, enemies will fear for their saving throws.
I present the Eldritch GunSlinger
Another option for a magic stone sniper is arcane trickster, for one large powerful strike per turn
@@ardet7383 Good idea. Plus a single bonus action casting of Magic Stone will give you enough ammunition for three turns. 🎯🎯🎯
I made a Kobold Beast Master with a giant crab companion. I gave it plate barding and had it tank while I shot enemies with pack tactics. Note that the original beast master adds PB on top of its AC so it stacks with plate barding. The crab would dodge and take opportunity attacks to grapple.
This sounds like an awesome bounty hunter build for a DM to use against their players. Send one of these against your murderhobo players to let them feel the consequences of their actions.
Damn, I love this!
Never knew the old beast master had this in him.
I watch a ton of build guides of both the more optimized and the more flavorful variety, but you’re pumping out some of the most interesting ones I’ve seen.
Everybody can do a bugbear gloomstalker echo knight, but this is where I’d put my money.
Hafling with the lucky feat
the llucky feat says you can choose which dice to use, so disadvantages become tripple advantages
Cool idea and cool flavor, but be careful with Fog Cloud in an actual game. It has the same drawback as Darkness where the rest of your group can't see targets in it, potentially leaving them either blinded or with nothing to do.
What it does do well, however, is control.
You can really restrict your opponents options if you know how to use this spell.
From what I understand being closer to thr triton gives you limited visibility in the fog as well
Cleric necromancer Twilight (to buff temporary hp) + Animate dead (to create a beefed up meat shild
(With zombies you get 3× 22+1d6+7 hp buff)
Petition to rename this build to 'Crabsbow expert'
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Welp, I found my back up character for my Theros game
To keep with the water thing a few levels in paladin the water one would give you a free fog spell that moves with you
Are you referring to the oath of the open sea?
@@DnD_Daily yeah one of there thing is a fog that you and allies can see but no one else
Eugene crab😆Brovo on making a build from ranger that sounds fun to play an can keep up decently with others.
Battlemaster Fighter can use the net efficiently with the "Quick Toss"-Maneuver.
You can also be a Druid cast fog Wild Shape into giant 🕷️ spider or something else with blind sight. Also a good idea be size short. Cast fog at height Medium if your entire party is size small fog is not a problem. Also go multi-class fighter Echo Knight blind fight pick up crossbow expert as well for the net.
I love the idea of this and as a DM I would allow it, but RAW says you command your PHB animal as an action, not as part of an attack action. You can see what the wording would be if it replaced an attack with the FToD dragonborn breath weapon.
“You can use your action to verbally command it to take the Attack, Dash, Disengage, or Help action. If you don’t issue a command, the beast takes the Dodge action. Once you have the Extra Attack feature, you can make one weapon attack yourself when you command the beast to take the Attack action. “
I’d say that your commanding your pet to attack and YOU get the bonus attack on your turn. The action is commanding your pet AND you get to make an attack as apart of that action. So RAW I see this working.
@Ronin Hare You are correct, once you have extra attack, you can make the secondary attack as part of the same action as the command. The issue is that Crossbow Expert declares "when you use the attack action...", not if you make an attack with your action. This prevents the feats from being used with the blade cantrips because you used the "cast a spell" action. (This is said because it is the same rules interaction ad this ranger example.) Commanding the animal to use the attack action is not using the attack action yourself. RAW, it still does not work. I would still allow the player to do so if they asked me as a DM.
@@Starcoffin touché! I would just run it with the rule of cool. Let the player have their fun. 😄
My favourite form of a "Mist Master" is Moon Druid that casts Fog Cloud and then wild-shape in Giant Wolf Spider. Giant Wolf Spiders have 10ft Blindsense >:)
I'd have to homebrew it, but I've always wanted a Predator-style net launcher. Like something made with the consistancy of razorwire that can be launched from a crossbow or something that begins to constrict a grappled creature. This would fit this build and allow the Triton to incapacitate a creature and then focus on others that pop up if you find yourself surrounded
This is a very fun and flavorful build that is great at suppressing the enemies capabilities whilst still doing tons of stuff. Good job.
Another similar build I will compare is one from DNDshorts where a circle of the moon druid casts fog cloud and turns into a giant spider.
Something fun to combine with this build is the magic initiate feat as it lets you get find familiar so you can have a bat friend as well, though for the underwater theme you could do a quipper instead.
Call this build the “Fisher of Men” featuring Triton Bruce Willis.
My best strategy with the net is somewhat complex. My build is a Hobgoblin Aberrant Mind Sorcerer (a squishy caster with a melee centered weapon?! How dare you!) Prof in Net from Hobgob’s martial training. The two spells to look at here are Hex and Booming blade. Pull hex at level 2 from the Aberrant spell casting flexibility. All that in mind, also carry a quarterstaff. First round: bonus action to hex, target strength checks. This lets us actually roll a damage die if we hit with net. Then, action to booming blade through the net. Ideally you’d have a high enough strength to make it worth it but if not, use the Hobgob’s saving face to try not to miss the attack. This turn, you get a d6 nectrotic damage through the net that is now restraining the target. Hex is giving you a bonus to damage while also making the target’s athletics checks to escape at disadvantage. Even if they do escape, they’ve used their action to do so and if they try to move, that’s booming blade damage baby. Next turn if the target is still in the net, break out that quarter staff and booming blade the target at advantage due to restrained and still adding the hex’s d6 necrotic. You’re not damaging the net since it’s bludgeoning damage. Have fun with what I call, the Hex Piñata
What a out of the box built kudos bro! ☕️
Now I'm thinking druid barbarian grappler build. Wildshape into a giant crab and go ham on the mobs. Tho ..... giant octopus.... lol
I think it would work better with constrictor snake or giant constrictor snake, but those options don't work with beast master
@@DnD_Daily for your build yea. But for a pc to take your idea and twist it into a unorthodox build..... but keep that "seafood" flavor lol
Giant crab is awesome to get the octopus to be a threat takes some work. But my god would it be funny.
A charging flying octopus grapples 8 mobs and yeets them into the air. Lol (totem barbarian 14 moon druid 6 is a rough outline Goliath for double carry)
This is so sick
Nice build, thanks! I've played around with a Fog Cloud centered Beast Master as well. And I'd go with the Giant Wolf Spider, myself being a small race. This way you have a mount with Blindsight that can climb and has a rather powerful attack given the additional poison damage.
Been reading Mistborn recently so this build deffo got me to subscribe
Nice build! 😊
Change net looks description bag and crab looks description into Reindeer and call yourself Santa Claus.
Every time you catch someone "H Ho Ho I got you".
SMOKE BUILD!!!! Hell yeah I love it, well more misty but I LOVE IT!
I might steal this for an NPC bounty hunter in a Waterworld-esque campaign I'm cooking up.
I played that build, except I used Custom linage for at river / coast ranger.
I like your underwater vibe better.
This just proves that even the worst classes (rangers aren’t the worst class as long as you use custom rules from Tasha’s and other books, but the standard rangers are quite bad) and subclasses (revised beast master is good, but not standard) can still be used to make a fun, flavorful and powerful build.
I actually disagree.
(Respectfully, I don’t want to start a rout)
Rangers are a pretty strong class, they’re just dunked on because some of their abilities are so situational.
But even without using those abilities, the Ranger will generally prove to be more viable than other martial characters.
This isn’t really relevant to the video, but I thing I found out about yesterday is that Dragon’s Wrath Weapons can be any weapon.
So if your DM feels like being a funny guy they can give the party a Dragon’s Wrath Blowgun or Net.
Super cool build, one note though, if you use your action to command the crab to attack, and then attack alongside it, you cannot use Crossbow Expert to attack with your Bonus Action, since you did not take the Attack action
One thing I noticed at 3:11, You can’t make another attack when you use the net because the rule is worded “Once you have the Extra Attack feature, you can make one weapon attack yourself when you command the beast to take the Attack action.” This paired with the way the nets rules are worded(When you use an action, bonus action, or reaction to attack with a net, you can make only one attack regardless of the number of attacks you can normally make) means that you wouldn’t be able to make a second attack on your turn with RAW. Personally I would let it slide with the characters affinity for nets but keep in mind that the rules would be against you on this one.
“Once you have the Extra Attack feature, you can make one weapon attack yourself when you command the beast to take the Attack action.
5e Player's Handbook, p93”
I believe it works if you use your action to command the beast to attack. As the action is “command” not attack.
The main issue is simply this, you are not the only player, and players will get mad at you because your giving them all disadvantage making it harder for them to deal with the enemies and enemies often have multiple allies, you might restrain 1 or 2 but the others will move out, you cant move the fog cloud. so you might get 1 or 2 IF you hit, but if you end up low on the turn order your front liners are gonna be on the enemy, meaning you fog cloud you screw them over too
You have to make a magic net... Called Internet 😂
Your videos have been very On Target. It's funny cuz a lot of the bills you've made recently are things I've been thinking about. Your creativity with races and spells are a bit more on point. I thought about making a flying art rebuild that uses darkness as part of its protection. Or if you can animate an object place darkness on it. That way you can keep the darkness away from those to the party while being hidden
BTW love how your giant crab looks like a kinglar (a pokemon)
Xbow xprt, 3rd bullet: WHEN YOU USE THE ATTACK ACTION WITH A ONE-HANDED WEAPON, you can use a bonus action to attack with a hand crossbow you are holding.
Beastmaster Ranger's Companion, 2nd paragraph: ... You can USE YOUR ACTION to verbally command it to take the Attack, Dash, Disengage, or Help Action. If you don't issue a command, the beast takes the Dodge action. Once you have the Extra Attack feature, you can make one weapon attack yourself when you command the beast to take the Attack action.
At no point does a Beastmaster use the Attack action with his pet. This was one of the principle complaints against the subclass from the beginning, as that distinction precludes the bonus action attacks from two weapon fighting, crossbow expert, and polearm master. Your also won't be benefitting from Hunter's Mark via the beast's attacks.
Then there's the pet... Giant Crab has a +3 with 1d6+1 (avg 4.5) . A Giant Poisonous Snake (also 10ft blindsight) has +6 with 1d4+4 (avg 6.5) AND 3d6 poison, save for half (10.5 on fail, 5.25 on success). Even on a successful save, the snake does more than double the base damage of the crab.
I know the whole grapple and restrained thing was a big part of the concept. But remaining in melee range of an enemy that you're not damaging enough to kill is just soaking unnecessary damage. The best condition to apply is dead, and that requires damage.
While it's true that you won't be putting out a ton of damage, having multiple enemies restrained/grappled in a fog cloud makes them blind and immobile. If they do attack you it is at disadvantage, and if they don't it takes an action to break out of the net/grapple meaning they just wasted an action. Also with the net, it is easy to wrap someone in it and then step out of melee range, at this point they can't hit or even see you, but you can still hit them with xbow bolts safely. Your crab is still in danger, but his job is to tank. I do appreciate the clarification on crossbow expert with beast master 👍
@@DnD_Daily that disadvantage only exists for someone benefitting from blindsight. It won't help your teammates. That dc11 to escape will never scale up.
The biggest real control this offers is against casters, since a vast majority of spells dictate being able to see your target. It won't save you from the AoEs, which tend to be mostly damage. But it will prevent most targeted effects that impose crippling conditions.
Second attack....CRAB
I had this exact build in mind but didn’t think about using Crab/Old Beastmaster.
Not sure if I could bring myself to using it.
Hey, new sub here keep it up.
Glad to have you!
I know the video is slightly older now, but do you remember where you got the art from for the thumbnail? I'm playing an Eldritch Knight that uses this combo and I really like that art.
If only nets were a melee weapon with reach instead
The often overlooked capstone of this subclass works even better with the haste spell. Now you use your hasted action for the net attack, 1 regular attack, eugene gets to use 3 attacks, your bonus action attack and we should still have enough room to dip 3 lvls of echo knight to action surge and make for more attacks.😊😂😅
Well if we are going with a nova build we could also consider a different races. My recommandation are either bugbear (heheh😂 yeti) or Fizbans silver dragonborn (to stay theme adjacent) as for the spells we can pick those up with 😂 Strixhaven Prismari or Quandrix (Quandrix is the better choice) (Lorehold is interesting though, since it gives spirit guardians that now means there's 2, 1 for you and 1 for your Crab) or Ravnica Rakdos Cultist (Orzhov Representative is interesting though same reason as Lorehold. Simic-Scientist gets you polymorph though 🤔 does the crab get to a high enough challenge rating?, that you could turn you both into a giant ape?😂😅
Edit: oh as for fog cloud that's already on the ranger spell list.😅
True about fog cloud, but at least triton gives 1 free cast a day, along with some other minor utility spells
@@DnD_Daily Of course extra casting always welcome and I get that most of the racial choice was flavor/theme based.
What did you think of my idea to flavor bugbear as a yeti? And I imagine that the haste and fighter observations weren't bad either.
If we go 17 ranger and 2 to 3 fighter we can steel wind strike action surge steel wind strike and wipe half the encounters worth of hp in a single turn.
Doesn't work. You can only make one attack on the turn you use your net. So you'd have to wait until the next turn.
@@geltza7
"Once you have the Extra Attack feature, you can make one weapon attack yourself when you command the beast to take the Attack action. While traveling through your favored terrain with only the beast, you can move stealthily at a normal pace."
Also, according to Sage Advice you can use net as an action and then bonus action attack with your hand crossbow. Source: www.sageadvice.eu/can-a-pc-with-crossbow-expert-attack-with-a-net-and-then-with-an-hand-crossbow/
However I did make a mistake. You cannot do both the animal attack and the bonus action crossbow attack. This is because you use your action to "command" your animal to attack. This doesn't count as an attack action and thus doesn't proc the hand crossbows bonus action attack.
Next, make the Moist Meister!
Already on the list 🤣
The one problem I see with this build is your allies can’t help you in the fog, I played a blind fighting Paladin/ rogue arcane trickster and I found out unless your allies can see the enemy they will not go into that fog unless they have the fighting style now not to say it’s a bad build but you also need to work with your allies on combos.
I've been thinking about adapting this build as a goblin with a swarm of bats re-flavored as horsefly's just for the sake of naming it fart goblin
Suboptimal? Yes
Funny? Also yes
I'm a literal child
Can you do a verdan goblin build i would like to see what you can come up with if you want of course?
We'll add it to the list 👍
XD . I thought that i can only get one attack a turn using nets.
I guess this works if you're playing solo...
It is a net argument in favor of the ancien beast master
Ok people, tell me how you would rule this - Returning Weapon Infusion on a net. Is it:
1. A useless net
Or
2. A net that hauls the restrained enemy to the thrower
?
I believe that it would return the net, and leave the target as they were before being attacked by the net
@@DnD_Daily Sadly that is also how the rules read to me, though I could understand someone ruling it in a different way.
It kind of sucks because it's yet another bad rules interaction for the Artificer (the first one being the Armorer subclass and the Tortle race).
I can't believe you didn't call the build Mr Mister! 😆 I hope you will redeem yourself in a future video by using that name on another fogcloud/weather magic based build!
Where does it say that your fighting style is automatically gained by your animal companion? I can't seem to find it anywhere.
It is not, however the giant crab innately has a 30 ft blind sight feature
@@DnD_Daily Ahhhh I completely missed that. I think I need blind sight.
Net of returning lol
I wonder if you took a level of forger cleric, if then, using the blessing of the forge to make the net magical, you'd make it much harder to destroy since then it's a magic item? Plus then if you hit a concentrating spell caster with your +1 net, they need a Con save...
net uses strength to hit, right?
It is a ranged weapon, so I believe it uses Dex
@@DnD_Daily i just checked its thrown
It has the thrown property but is under the umbrella of “ranged martial weapon” which I believe makes it a dex thrown weapon.
@@DnD_Daily i checked the language and you are correct.
i always thought thrown weapons were strength unless they had the finesse tag, but thats not the case at all.
Fascinating, nets are easily the most confusing weapon in the game.
Reskin the crossbow as a harpoon gun for a full aquatic theme
Love this 👌
You took something that was the weakest part of the game to break the game and drive the DM crazy!!!!