@@uniqueidentity_4456 To be fair, that’s how many shots it can take to kill anyone. Depending on where you get shot, of course. 1 bullet to the heart will kill you unless you can get to a hospital within a few minutes.
@@Admiral_Potato41 shouldn't it be more like "you don't lose 100% of the fights you don't get into" though? a bit nitpicky, I know, but those two are not exactly the same :D
02:35, shooting with one hand is period-correct, though. Two-handed pistol shooting didn't become popular until after the 1950s, which absolutely blew my mind when I found that out. It seems crazy, to me, that we went literally centuries with people shooting them one-handed, when two-handed is pretty obviously the better method...
@@Metal7771 Right?! Also, how did they never realize that, even just at a shooting range target practicing, it's much easier to hit your target by shooting with both hands... I cannot understand why it took so long for people to figure this stuff out.
@@ZombieWilfred It was the doctrine of the time. Efficiency was second to "proper form." Same reason traditional cavalry units held out as long as they did. It's just how you did it, logic and reason be damned.
just as an aside to explain the time slowing, the characters aren't actually slowing down time, it's just apart of the game's mechanics to illustrate how good of a shot they actually are
Yep I was gonna say this also. It's not like these 2 cowboys are actually slowing down time. They're just the 2 best in the West when it comes to shooting.
There's these sketches that do the whole "what deadeye would look like" thing. It's just their "Arthur" making mouth noises and pretending to be slow motion. It always annoyed me because I saw it as more of the game's way of letting us tap into Arthur's insane ability to focus hard when he needs to.
Yeah, it's not really time slowing down. Just the shooter being super focused. If you get good enough at speed shooting you can get sort of the same effect. Basically everything greys out and the targets you aim at get in sharp focus.
Israel is doing a really good job of letting Lars talk about what he knows and asking questions he definitely already knows (bullet vs cartridge question for example). You can tell he's getting really comfortable being the "host" but also being an expert in his field. good stuff
@@JohnSmith-xv2ob What are you referring, to because if being in the special forces doesn't make you a firearms expert (at least in contemporary weapons) then I don't know what will. Isreal is plenty qualified and he asked intresting questions to give the audience context.
@@Cepheid_ Just because you can use one really effectively does not mean you are an expert. I would think it's obvious, you're not a vehicle expert because you drive a car daily, I'm not a computer expert because I use a computer every day, firearms experts know what a C93 Borchardt is for example. Ian McCollum from Forgotten Weapons or Jonathon Ferguson from the Royal Armory Museum are firearm experts, Israel is an ENTHUSIAST. There is a major difference. I'm an enthusiast too, but aiming to be an expert so I qualify to say Israel and Lars honestly are not authorities on very many weapons. If I have a question about an M4, M16 or M9 I'll go to them, MAYBE, but even then I know people who know more than they do that I still wouldn't call experts.
The gun he is calling a Winchester 1873 is actually a Henry 1860-- the Winchester 1873 Yellow Boy (ingame as the Lancaster) looks similar but has a side gate for loading on the right side of the receiver, and wood furniture to protect your hands from the barrel. The Henry 1860 (Litchfield) has that spring that needs to be pulled to the end of the barrel and twisted so that your cartridges can be slid in.
I'm watching this one year later. Firearms "Expert" indeed. "Open up the little window" on a Winchester 1873 that had a loading gate on the side. He should of immediately known this way of loading was not a Winchester 73. Also, looks like a .22, said that that rifle took 22 .22s. Then mentioned it being a stout hunting rifle with recoil hard enough to knock around the optics of the scope. Saying the scope is only mounted on the side due to the iron sights, not realizing the shells eject from the top. This just hurt my brain.
I was waiting for someone to say it and just a correction the Lancaster is a Winchester Model 1866 found it funny when he said the litchfield was a takedown version made me cringe
Forgot the timestamp, but I'd like to note that holding revolvers and pistols didn't become common practice until during and after WW2. It was seen as the proper form to be able to hold your gun like the duelists of old.
"Instinctive shooting" was very much seen as THE go to method for shooting with handguns as it was based mostly on aiming by pointing your body, sort of like hip firing (at least as seen in most games). The thinking was that if you are getting shot at, you don't have much time to align the sights (especially with how small they used to be), so you would just aim by instinct to line up a shot.
@Recondo Laidy-slayer you’re completely wrong though, John was tasked with killing Dutch and the whole gang in the very first game, that has nothing to do with Micah betraying literally everyone, the pinkertons came and took Abigail and jack from John in the first game which gave him the incentive to save them. Micah had no family and no incentive so he’s just a piece of shit
@@biondisubbaiah I'm just saying it'd be hilarious if the gameplay they review is his. From what I know it isn't but that'd be hilarious if it was and he's making comments like that
3:59 actually, it looks like this is a henry 1860. most likely it actually took 44 rimfire. this one uses tube loading from up top, where the winchester 73 was a side loader and mainly used 44-40, 38-40, 32-20, and sometimes 22lrs.
That’s what I was just about to say. Who is this joker? Less than five minutes into the video and he has already made several blatantly incorrect statements.
I've heard some people complain about the fact you have to cock your guns, but I actually find it a nice touch. There's something oddly badass about cocking your gun before finishing someone off.
3:52 There are many fields of expertise when it comes to firearms, but saying a 1860 henry looks like a winchester 1873 was a huge bruh moment for a so called firearms expert.
Exactly, and that's not the only mistake he's made in this video. I'm sure this guy knows a lot about newer guns, but these older guns are definitely not his forte.
This guy is not a "weapon specialist" by any means. He obviously exaggerates his knowledge on guns. He was wrong on almost every single one in the video. Its irritating that he is considered an expert
@@polanco2011 ikr, dude isn't anywhere close to a gun expert. He's just an old military guy who thinks he knows guns, but in reality, doesn't know what he doesn't know.
The way Israel asks questions he obviously knows the answer too so that the other guy is able to talk about his field is amazing. You can tell he’s getting really comfortable as a host.
Fun fact there’s a mod that replaces the Vanilla gun names with real ones and it’s great and it’s canonically correct if you do the famous gunslingers missions it says Otis miller’s smith and Wesson 3
But it IS a Schofield, the schofeild wasn't as popular for the time period because it used different ammo than the single action colts, meanwhile the single action colt could hold any of the 3 .45 rounds in production at the time. The calvary preferred the schofeild because it was easier to reload on horseback than the single action army colt was.
@@EddyOver9000 eh. Besides the cartridge for the C93 being a basis for the main cartridges used for the C96 (7.63x25mm Mauser, I think it was), the C93 didn’t really affect the C96.
6:12 the weapon that Lars is referring to here is the Borchardt C-93. Fun fact: Georg Luger also worked on this weapon, and the C-93 influenced the P08 that came after it.
This dude just made me realize that the force hitting your shoulder is the same as what hits the target. Idk how I never thought of that but now I feel enlightened
He is pretty much right, but the amount of force hitting the person on the other end would really be less, since for especially bigger caliber bullets, not nearly all the energy gets transfered to the person
Yeah, but that projectile is generating a lot of energy, and if the round stops in the target, all of the force had to go somewhere. A standard 5,56 round generates nearly 1500 joules of force
The semi-auto pistol was a Borchardt C93. To be fair all I could remember was C93, and when he said B I figured it was Bergmann. I had it half wrong too. *edit - and I could be wrong but I believe that the "sharps" he points out is actually a Spencer carbine. The bolt action is actually a Krag Jorgenson
youre totally right on the sharps/spencer thing. the spencer had a magazine in the stock, and the sharps was a single shot breach loader. i understand why he confused them though.
@@nickferries2777 They're talking about the weapon on the back of the enemy they saw during the M1899 pistol clip, not the repeater that arthur was using.
It is but it’s completely different. The bullet weighs a fraction of an oz and accelerates to thousands of feet per second before it hits with minimal surface area. Whereas on the shooters side the gun weighs like 8 lbs and isn’t allowed to accelerate at all, and pushes against a large surface.
But it's just not true. Yes you can't argue neutons law but you have to divide the weight of the projectile by the weight of the weapon. Then divide surface size of the bullet by the surface size of the buttstock. Then divide the second number by the first number. It's 1/1000 of the felt impact from the position of the shooter. That math is probably miles off but it sounds about right Ahahaha
Fun Fact: The semi-auto pistol is based after the Borchardt C93. It's the same gun Dutch uses in RDR1. It's also known as the first mass-produced semi-auto pistol.
I want these guys to look at slapped together weapons like fallouts pipe guns or borderlands bandit guns just to see their reaction to them, ngl my guess on their reaction would be "how is that thing even firing?"
@@skeletonracingandgaming3407 I always loved bow they have crazy bolt actions and fully automatic pipeguns, but they don't have the simplest one that would be the only one I'd think bandits would make! A shotgun shell in a pipe!
3:02, Ha, sounds like my dad! My dad is a Vietnam combat veteran with multiple medals including the Bronze Star for his courageous actions that saved about 20-30 guys' lives. He held his ground in a foxhole with 2 other guys at night while being overrun by the enemy. He didn't even know he was earning a medal, lol! He told me if he could have gotten out of the fight safely, he'd have done it, because you win every fight you avoid - from a survival perspective. He's definitely not a coward, just practical. If you can avoid a fight, you'd be wise to do so. You only fight if there is no other acceptable option. When running means death, then you gotta face the threat and give them hell. This is actually why a good strategist always leaves their enemy an escape route. You don't win by killing every last enemy like in video games, you win a battle by forcing the enemy to retreat. The sooner they retreat, the sooner you stop your own casualties, and gain ground. If you corner your enemy, it's very common for them to become incredibly dangerous, as they will now take risky actions that they would have otherwise not taken, if they don't think surrender is an option. I like that some missions in RDR2 actually end with the NPC/AI enemy in retreat. I wish it was more common in both RDR2 and gaming in general, as it's far more realistic and immersive for people to be aware that they're losing a fight, and deciding to live to fight another day, to retreat. Very rarely do you see combatants with so much conviction they'll fight to every last man if an obvious escape route is presented.
3:53 - 5:00 That’s actually the Henry. The reason why it looks like you can break it down is because based on the Volcanic repeater, but with an upgrade breach. After both Smith and Wesson left the company it was bought out by Winchester, who made further changed to the design, ultimately becoming the “Yellow Boy” Winchester repeater.
@@TheSilverShadow17 Yes, the Volcanic repeater, was upgraded into the Henry and after that was further upgraded into the Winchester “Yellow Boy” repeater after Winchester’s acquisition of Volcanic Arms company. Correct if I’m wrong, but isn’t the Winchester still in production?
@@eds1942 I believe they still do make them, albeit as reproductions. Miroku for example builds brand new Yellow Boys and 1873s under license, but otherwise the rights still belong to the Winchester corporation.
@@TheSilverShadow17 That’s cool. It has a pretty interesting development history. I actually made a printable 3D model of the Volcanic, based on as many pictures and measurements that I could find. It doesn’t have the internal mechanisms though. Personally I don’t have much of a reason to own guns where I live. But I got several real swords though. It’s just that the Volcanic pistol looks cool and the history and all…
@@eds1942 Indeed, despite the initial development being quite tragic at that. The Volcanic pistol was an attempt at merging the lever-action concept with the compactness of a typical six shooter back in those days, which ultimately was a flawed execution and design choice. Plus you had to worry about premature ignition of cartridges since it was a front-load design like the Henry rifle. The Volcanic is severely underrated and misunderstood, but what worked in theory didn't quite translate to reality that well lol.
@@unnamed715 I don't think you know but they started working on GTA 6 after the release of rdr2. One of Rockstar's insider even teased the GTA 6 release date and told what exactly they are working on
Gunslingers in the old west actually often used the single handed dueler’s style. Kinda weird but that style was taught in the army all the way through WW2, kinda weird if ya ask me😂
What's funny is that it's the Winchester 1866 Yellow Boy. Those were largely phased out by 1899. I think Rockstar stuck with Yellow Boy because it's appeared in a couple of notable westerns that inspired the games.
I think what these ppl don't realize is that authur is the munitions and weapons expert for the camp. He stocks all ammo in his wagon. And has been gunsliging since he was 16 (or even earlier because hosea said when they picked him up that there "wasn’t a wilder delinquint you ever did see") he's built up muscle memory for *many* guns. Its not out of the question that he'd be strong enough to adequately use a sawn off like he does in the game, it's what he knows and he's certainly strong enough for it. Not to mention single hand firing was common and expected for the time. You'd be viewed as a wimp if you shot with both hands or "scared of the recoil". It also came over from the calvary that would shoot with one hand often. He's an awesome weapon handling expert but it would do well to bring on a historical weapons expert with knowledge on older gun techniques who don't view this stuff as "hollywood" bs. Or just inform them on the game itself too. I would have loved him to talk a bit more on rim fire cartidges.
The bolt action rifle is a 30/40 kraig jorgensen. Pretty neat rifle as it has a trapdoor-esk loading mechanism to make it easy to reload on horse back. As far as I know it was praised for having one of smoothest bolt designs.
12:20 someone has probably already said this but that bolt action is a Norwegian rifle called the Krag Jørgenson, given that it's in the US it would be chambered for 30-40 Krag
As a Norwegian, when I learned the Krag was standard issue for the US army at the turn of the century, I found that really cool. Like, Teddy Roosevelt was running around on Cuba with that thing.
The semi auto pistol is called the C93 Borchardt invented by Hugo Borchardt. Georg Luger was employed to promote the gun across military and civilian channels. The Germany Army asked Borchardt to change his gun design because the recoil was pretty massive and it was expensive to produce, etc. He didn’t want to, so they asked Luger to improve upon it. He did and he created the 1908 Luger we know now. ☺️👍🏻
The used to side mount the scopes because on the old repeaters the cartridges used to eject out the top so If it was mounted normally the cartridges would hit the scope
@@sherlockholmes7630 No I'm talking about the missions in the original COD 2 that takes place in WW2. You go to the point du hoc and a bunch if other places as the rangers while playing as america in that game.
@@sherlockholmes7630 Yeah. Yo know, the one where you scale the rock wall and blow up artillery with (I think, I haven't played the game in a while) thermite bombs.
Side mounted scopes were fairly standard when put on an early repeater because the shells ejected straight up. When they went to bolt actions (which they do in this game) top mounted scopes became standard.
If they're willing to come back again for a "less serious" video, could you please show them the Fallout weapons, for a slightly more bizarre take, considering the fatman, but also the more "clever" ones like the pipe guns.
6:13 C93 Borchardt. Invented by Hugo Borchardt 1893. Later improved upon by his assistant, Georg Luger, in 1898. 12:55 its a Krag. Was US standard issue from 1894-1906.
Always interesting when you meet an SF vet that doesn’t know that much about firearms. I’m a vet myself and I can tell you it’s more common then you might think to find a service member that really is only an expert in what they use. I knew every answer he was asking to guy sitting to his right but I actually really enjoy firearms. I’m not making fun of him just pointing out that someone being a vet doesn’t necessarily make them an expert in all guns. Like the fact that he didn’t know the difference between a bullet and a cartridge. Which any gun enthusiast would know.
@@Mr_Mistah Notable errors from this video, in order of appearance. (Per gun): S&W Schofield. No issues here, but I want to clarify that Indiana Jones carried a Webley WG Army, not a S&W. Double Action Revolver (Colt New Army & Navy): One-handed revolver and pistol shooting was the only way people did it up until the 1950’s or so. Two-handed shooting would be an anachronism. And casings becoming stuck is a natural result of case expansion upon firing. Litchfield Repeater: This is a Henry Model 1860, not a Winchester Model 1873. The bronze receiver, front-loading, and lack of a handguard should have made this obvious. It is also not a takedown rifle, and it uses .44 rimfire, not .22. Evans Repeating Rifle: they erroneously transitioned to footage of this rifle and continued referring to it as a Winchester and the segment of the video still says “Repeater”. He incorrectly implies that it uses a “stout” cartridge, despite it being chambered in what was essentially a pistol cartridge: .44 Evans Short. Also “recticle”? And the force of recoil is not the same as the bullet’s, the energy is. The gun absorbs most of the recoil. And lastly, that’s not why side-mounted scopes fell out of favor. The C-93 Borchardt(Semi-automatic pistol) They fail to name it and describe the toggle action as “finger action” which does not sound like anything gun-related. Also, he implies that these are somewhat prevalent and popular today. They aren’t. Very few were made and they are $10K
The cool thing about the 1911 precursor in game is you can only get it in one of the guns shops, and that gun shop is in the city in game, one of the few places where you can see electricity being used
Not completely sure if they knew this but the bold action rifle is modeled after the bolt action krag-jørgensen, the in game model I believed fired an .30-40 krag. It saw production from 1886-1945 and it did see action up to ww2 with the Danish military as an standard issued rifle. Their ammo for the danish model was an 8×58mmR by the way
Gun 2: The Litchfield Repeater mentioned is not a Winchester 1873. It's modeled after a Henry Model 1860 and is chambered in .44 Henry, not .22. Gun 4: Cpt is right in that it starts w/a B. It's modeled after the Borchardt C-93 and did have the option to clip to a shoulder stock. It was one of Georg Luger's designs, who loved the toggle-lock design, which was based on the Maxim gun. On the Sawed-Off Shotgun: In the United States, a Class III tax stamp would be required if it was a full-sized shotgun (barrel over 18" in length w/shoulder stock). However, if initially manufactured initially with a short barrel and pistol grip, it would be labeled as either a handgun or AOW (Any Other Weapon) and *usually* is not considered an NFA item (requiring a Class III tax stamp). (Obviously none of this is legal advice, just summarization of a metric f*ckton of legalese into plain-ish English). You also probably won't break your wrist firing one, most use the smaller 2.75" shell chambering, which reduces the recoil quite a bit. On the Bolt-Action Rifle: Not a direct replication of any specific single gun, but rather has aspects of multiple Krag-Jørgensen 1899s (It's generally referred to as the Springfield Model 1892-99 in the US, but was most commonly found still chambered in the 30-40 Krag proprietary cartridge). The forestock and muzzle most closely resemble the artillery carbine version, while the buttstock looks more like it's supposed to be from the constabulary carbine (which was marketed to police departments).
8:00 hits different because in my first calculus class when we were learning about velocity and inertia our professor deadass said "well if you get shot with a bullet point blank, it's not stop at the top layer of your chest" 😭
The gun used Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and Crystal Skull is a Webley Govenment (often called "green"), it is the only break action revolver used in the Indiana Jones franchise. Edit: The gun at 3:52 is a Henry rifle, the difference between the Henry and the Winchester is that the Winchester has a wood handle on the front. The pump action shotgun is a Model 1897.
The difference between the Henry and Winchester rifles goes beyond the foregrip. This game (as does Fallout 3) correctly shows how the Henry is loaded, via that rotating barrel tip (which contains the magazine spring and "floor plate"). Winchesters load from a port on the right side of the receiver, as do most of their modern variants (like Marlin rifles, as an example). The reason why the scope is side mounted is to clear the ejection port, as most of these rifles were top ejecting.
@@brianchiasson2465 yeah I know, what I meant is that the most obvious difference between the two is the wood. The change from rotating barrel tip to load port was because of the grip.
@@xraystudios3693 No, it wasn't. You've got that backwards. Winchester was able to put a foregrip on their rifle because the new (and faster) loading gate system meant that the follower no longer got in the way. Trust me, I have a shelf full of books on late 1800's firearms, have handled and shot with many of them, and was a reenactor for many years.
@@brianchiasson2465 oh ok, I just assumed they came up with a new feeding system because after shooting too much the barrel would get hot and needed something to grab on to that wasn't metal.
Now that youve put me in a western mood, I kinda wanna see gun experts react to hunt showdown now(or any other expert that would work for that setting)
You'd think they would try a little harder to vet their so-called "specialist". Out of all the guns he identified he definitively got one correct, of the ammo he said they used he didn't didn't get any correct. I don't understand how someone with such a limited knowledge of guns can be considered an authority on the subject.
"Gun Experts" do not recognize such famous models as Borchardt C93 (the father of Luger pistols construction), FN m1900 (first "slide" pistol), M1897 (first successful - mass production pump action)
For real this is some BASIC historical gun knowledge. Also saying the gun " heating up" as opposed to fouling causes a sticky action is firearm mechanics 101.
4:04 I understand he probably doesn't know the weapon well but as a firearm history guy that loves the old west and world war era weapons which is where all the firearm technology we have know stemmed from hearing him call the Lichfield which is supposed to be a Henry 1860 repeater a winchester 1873 when the Henry loads exactly like the Litchfield and the 1873 winchester loads from a side mounted loading gate like the Lancaster in the game kinda annoyed me
It's the precursor of the Luger made by a man called Borchardt. He was really only known for being involved in the conceptual parts of the Luger pistol in the early 20th century (though his initial design was made just before the turn of the century around 1897 or so.) That specific pistol was eventually updated with some new components to get rid of the awkward mechanism on the back of the slide but Borchardt refused to change the design so he was eventually fired, though his name was kept with the weapon until it was adopted by various militaries/governments and given the designation that each purchaser decided. We all know the succeeding pistols as "Luger" and the rest, as they say, is history.
3:52 It's not based off of a Winchester, its based off of a Henry Repeater, which would explain the octagonal barrel and obvious (and completely different) reload mechanism. I thought these guys were supposed to be experts but they're completely wrong...
The Bolt Action Rifle was based on the Krag-Jorgensen 1892. The flat pistol is FN Modele 1899 which Browning sold to the Belgians and was issued in the US as the Browning 1900. It was a .32 cal and the first slide pistol.
Can we just take a second to appreciate the person playing is lighting up Mica?
Micah
Meyecuh
@@redbandit7072 oops
we don't say his name
his true name" The Rat"
I haven't played RDR2 yet but I want to maybe they'll keep remaking it like GTAV then I can just get it on PS5 assuming they're ever in stock.
They call uncle the one shot kid because that’s how many shots he takes before he wants to sleep under a tree
Something tells me he measures his alcohol consumption in bottles rather then shots
@@garnetbezanson1404 more like bottle cases
@@uniqueidentity_4456 To be fair, that’s how many shots it can take to kill anyone. Depending on where you get shot, of course. 1 bullet to the heart will kill you unless you can get to a hospital within a few minutes.
Oh, hi Arthur!
I can see uncle being a heavy moonshine drinker.
"If I could slow down time, I would just leave" lmfao
"You win 100% of the fights you don't get into" a wise man once told me this lol
@@Admiral_Potato41 shouldn't it be more like "you don't lose 100% of the fights you don't get into" though? a bit nitpicky, I know, but those two are not exactly the same :D
@@clefsan bruh
@@clefsan bruh
@@clefsan bruh
02:35, shooting with one hand is period-correct, though. Two-handed pistol shooting didn't become popular until after the 1950s, which absolutely blew my mind when I found that out. It seems crazy, to me, that we went literally centuries with people shooting them one-handed, when two-handed is pretty obviously the better method...
I can't imagine being in a shoot out using one hand, your hand would get fatueged quick.
@@Metal7771 Right?! Also, how did they never realize that, even just at a shooting range target practicing, it's much easier to hit your target by shooting with both hands... I cannot understand why it took so long for people to figure this stuff out.
@@ZombieWilfred It was the doctrine of the time. Efficiency was second to "proper form." Same reason traditional cavalry units held out as long as they did. It's just how you did it, logic and reason be damned.
@@funnyvalentinedidnothingwrong It's not really efficient if you miss, though. 😁
@@ZombieWilfred I literally said efficiency was secondary.
just as an aside to explain the time slowing, the characters aren't actually slowing down time, it's just apart of the game's mechanics to illustrate how good of a shot they actually are
Yep I was gonna say this also.
It's not like these 2 cowboys are actually slowing down time.
They're just the 2 best in the West when it comes to shooting.
The gang members keep telling Arthur the whole time "you're the better shot" and every time I used deadeye I was thinking damn right he is.
There's these sketches that do the whole "what deadeye would look like" thing. It's just their "Arthur" making mouth noises and pretending to be slow motion. It always annoyed me because I saw it as more of the game's way of letting us tap into Arthur's insane ability to focus hard when he needs to.
Yeah, it's not really time slowing down. Just the shooter being super focused. If you get good enough at speed shooting you can get sort of the same effect. Basically everything greys out and the targets you aim at get in sharp focus.
Yeah no shit
I'm like: "Oh, no! They're shooting innocent civilians! Oh, those are Grays and Braithwaites. Carry on."
dym at shady belle because those are o’driscolls man, unless I’m not far into the video
@@average__height8033 O'Driscolls at Shay Belle, Gray's and Braithwaites on their respective plantations.
"Who is this sadistic man?" WE CAN'T EXPECT GOD TO DO ALL THE WORK. Slavers got no mercy from me in my playthrough
@@michaelostergren3516Hell yeah. When Sean died, I went on so many rampages. I fuggin' hate Rhodes, just for the trauma.
michael ostergren but you still lose honour for killing them...
Israel is doing a really good job of letting Lars talk about what he knows and asking questions he definitely already knows (bullet vs cartridge question for example). You can tell he's getting really comfortable being the "host" but also being an expert in his field. good stuff
I would also like him to let his experience and expertise shine a bit more
I'd hesitate to call him an expert. In previous episodes half of it he had either never seen or is flat out wrong.
@@JohnSmith-xv2ob What are you referring, to because if being in the special forces doesn't make you a firearms expert (at least in contemporary weapons) then I don't know what will. Isreal is plenty qualified and he asked intresting questions to give the audience context.
@@Cepheid_ Just because you can use one really effectively does not mean you are an expert. I would think it's obvious, you're not a vehicle expert because you drive a car daily, I'm not a computer expert because I use a computer every day, firearms experts know what a C93 Borchardt is for example. Ian McCollum from Forgotten Weapons or Jonathon Ferguson from the Royal Armory Museum are firearm experts, Israel is an ENTHUSIAST. There is a major difference. I'm an enthusiast too, but aiming to be an expert so I qualify to say Israel and Lars honestly are not authorities on very many weapons. If I have a question about an M4, M16 or M9 I'll go to them, MAYBE, but even then I know people who know more than they do that I still wouldn't call experts.
Yeah it is weird I'm sat shouting at my TV " Aw cmon man if I know the answer theres no way in hell a spec ops soldier doesn't know this stuff!" 🤣
I love these two together. Like plastic and Kardashian. Or like burger with bacon. They just fit ye know
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Damn chill no full auto 😂
@@sellout4635 That’s not full AUTO...
Or like pineapple on pizza!
Or laughter and slaughter.
The gun he is calling a Winchester 1873 is actually a Henry 1860-- the Winchester 1873 Yellow Boy (ingame as the Lancaster) looks similar but has a side gate for loading on the right side of the receiver, and wood furniture to protect your hands from the barrel. The Henry 1860 (Litchfield) has that spring that needs to be pulled to the end of the barrel and twisted so that your cartridges can be slid in.
Yep and course they make them ever so slightly different
I'm watching this one year later. Firearms "Expert" indeed. "Open up the little window" on a Winchester 1873 that had a loading gate on the side. He should of immediately known this way of loading was not a Winchester 73. Also, looks like a .22, said that that rifle took 22 .22s. Then mentioned it being a stout hunting rifle with recoil hard enough to knock around the optics of the scope. Saying the scope is only mounted on the side due to the iron sights, not realizing the shells eject from the top. This just hurt my brain.
Yeah also when he calls the Spencer repeater a sharps rolling block lol he's obviously more of a training guy that a firearms identification guy
I was waiting for someone to say it and just a correction the Lancaster is a Winchester Model 1866 found it funny when he said the litchfield was a takedown version made me cringe
@@kona6115Lancaster is 1873
Forgot the timestamp, but I'd like to note that holding revolvers and pistols didn't become common practice until during and after WW2. It was seen as the proper form to be able to hold your gun like the duelists of old.
Not during WWII, well after the 1950s.
"Instinctive shooting" was very much seen as THE go to method for shooting with handguns as it was based mostly on aiming by pointing your body, sort of like hip firing (at least as seen in most games).
The thinking was that if you are getting shot at, you don't have much time to align the sights (especially with how small they used to be), so you would just aim by instinct to line up a shot.
Seeing Micah being blown off a mountain is beautiful. Also, you get gun oil to clean your weapons in game
Not when you didnt finish the game ;(
@@aleksjamnik5360 you can literally buy gun oil any time you’re not in a cutscene
@@torchtitan7108 i mean the spoiler
@@aleksjamnik5360 my bad bro bro I probably dabbed before I replied
@Recondo Laidy-slayer you’re completely wrong though, John was tasked with killing Dutch and the whole gang in the very first game, that has nothing to do with Micah betraying literally everyone, the pinkertons came and took Abigail and jack from John in the first game which gave him the incentive to save them. Micah had no family and no incentive so he’s just a piece of shit
3:42 "It's a Nice Gun, I'll Give You That. But the Engraving Gives You No Tactical Advantage" -Big Boss
I hope they react to the MGS3 nerding out at the 1911 scene.
Did He also say that? Thought Ocelot was the only one.
@@strangewolf1261 where you think ocelot got it from?
@Jeremiah Beauchamp And it lets people know that it is YOUR gun, and nobody else's.
@@jaydeleon8094 Honestly do not remember anymore! XD
That's why I asked. Tho if I had to guess... In Snake Eater right?
Can you imagine when Israel is all like "Who is this sick sadistic man" and the whole time it's his gameplay
Lmao
Lol really? 😂
@@biondisubbaiah I'm just saying it'd be hilarious if the gameplay they review is his. From what I know it isn't but that'd be hilarious if it was and he's making comments like that
israel??
@@b0bbuffet yeah the guy on the right. His name is Israel
3:59 actually, it looks like this is a henry 1860. most likely it actually took 44 rimfire. this one uses tube loading from up top, where the winchester 73 was a side loader and mainly used 44-40, 38-40, 32-20, and sometimes 22lrs.
That’s what I was just about to say. Who is this joker? Less than five minutes into the video and he has already made several blatantly incorrect statements.
@@hansgruber9685 Would it be better if he saved them for the end?
@@stitchowi No. He already saved plenty for the end as well.
And what gun expert doesn't know the Krag (Bolt Action Rifle) with the iconic side mounted loading gate.
@@slashdotism Yeah, I am no expert just a firearms enthusiast and I was cringing the whole way through the video.
I've heard some people complain about the fact you have to cock your guns, but I actually find it a nice touch. There's something oddly badass about cocking your gun before finishing someone off.
They should have added guns jamming and breaking after not cleaning them for a long time
@@jeedee675I agree
@@jeedee675like far cry 2
@@Seft2_ Yeah like Far Cry 2. The reason why RDR2 isn't as big as it should be is because they don't have someone like me on their team
@@jeedee675what do you mean it isn't as big as it should be
7:00 bruh the fact that they recorded this footage of them testing the weapon on micah
*everyone liked that*
@@gidoenn9625 *everyone absolutely loved that
Is it a mod
Goddamn rat
I loved that part. Revenge
Lars honestly looks like Tom Hanks' long lost brother.
Now that you mention it, yeah
nailed it
XD
Tom Hanks x Robin Williams
Ya right 😂
Love the fact that they used Micah as a test dummy for the semi-automatic pistols. Much appreciated
3:52 There are many fields of expertise when it comes to firearms, but saying a 1860 henry looks like a winchester 1873 was a huge bruh moment for a so called firearms expert.
Exactly, and that's not the only mistake he's made in this video. I'm sure this guy knows a lot about newer guns, but these older guns are definitely not his forte.
This guy is not a "weapon specialist" by any means. He obviously exaggerates his knowledge on guns. He was wrong on almost every single one in the video. Its irritating that he is considered an expert
And calling a bullet casing a cartridge. A cartridge is the entire assembly of a bullet, powder, primer and case.
He called the first handgun a rifle.
Full stop he just called a simi automatic an automatic, no weapons specialist would make that mistake.
“I have a .45 and it has a scorpion carved into the grip” same😂
U own a gun ? Is it for me ?
7:53 I love how neither of them noticed that guys leg being blown off
Wasn’t blown off, it was just behind the body
The leg was just lagging
@@milesprovan5539 it was, he used explosive rounds lmao
@@CainySNP explosive rounds are a one hit kill, so he obviously isn't using explosive rounds.
@@ReverbReverbMusic you can use different rounds in separate guns, 1 gun using regular ammo the other that shot second using explosive
The Litchfield is a Henry 1860, the Lancaster is the Winchester
And it's a model 66 as well
That was painfully obvious lol
@@lolk4530 Not to the gun expert apparently 🙄
@@polanco2011 ikr, dude isn't anywhere close to a gun expert. He's just an old military guy who thinks he knows guns, but in reality, doesn't know what he doesn't know.
Thank you.
Watching Micah getting trashed several times was really satisfying thanks
how can i do that in ps4 version
@@hackerjpg2539 the mission. That goes by the name of "american venom"
@@crimson5142 I meant in free roam
@@hackerjpg2539 i don't know
@@hackerjpg2539 I'm late asf but you can't do it easily on the PS4 version. You can do it on a PC version using mods.
@2:55 "If I can slow down time this much, I think I'd just leave"... spoken like a man who's seen his fair share of action.
The thing is is that arthur morgan would 100% die for his gang happily
The way Israel asks questions he obviously knows the answer too so that the other guy is able to talk about his field is amazing. You can tell he’s getting really comfortable as a host.
I'm glad Isreal gets more time on the channel, he's definitely one of my favorites.
Fun fact there’s a mod that replaces the Vanilla gun names with real ones and it’s great and it’s canonically correct if you do the famous gunslingers missions it says Otis miller’s smith and Wesson 3
Can I get this mod on Xbox?
@@mrm2542 don’t think you can get mods on Xbox
@@largewilliam3096 you can it’s just really hard
But it IS a Schofield, the schofeild wasn't as popular for the time period because it used different ammo than the single action colts, meanwhile the single action colt could hold any of the 3 .45 rounds in production at the time.
The calvary preferred the schofeild because it was easier to reload on horseback than the single action army colt was.
@@ralcogaming7674 rounds werent interchangable would have made colt a better gun
One day we'll find out what's on that clipboard.
It's just a poorly drawn picture of Squidward
I suspect a kitten he’s sketching
Never ;)
@@MyHappySelf Noooooo!!!!
You're all so stupid it's 3D Peppa Pig.
Love the video... personally think getting an expert on the period firearms would've been better (he mis-identified 4 firearms)
Lighting up Micah with the Semi's was the highlight of the video. 😎
Good job sir whoever you are!
Nice to get an experts opinion as well. Good stuff!
That semi automatic pistol is the C93.
Basically, the father of the Luger PO8.
I could see why they wouldnt know it, it kinda looks weird at first.
And the Mauser C96 too no?
@@EddyOver9000 No, C96 is a completely different mechanism. And made by Mauser instead of Luger
@@EddyOver9000 eh. Besides the cartridge for the C93 being a basis for the main cartridges used for the C96 (7.63x25mm Mauser, I think it was), the C93 didn’t really affect the C96.
He also got the Henry 1860 wrong but kk
6:12 the weapon that Lars is referring to here is the Borchardt C-93. Fun fact: Georg Luger also worked on this weapon, and the C-93 influenced the P08 that came after it.
Luger was tasked to improve the borchardt because borchardt didn’t want to because he thought it was perfect the way it was
"If i could slow time this much, i would have leave"
“If I could slow down time I’d just leave” is hilarious
This dude just made me realize that the force hitting your shoulder is the same as what hits the target. Idk how I never thought of that but now I feel enlightened
As a high school physics teacher, I love the shout-out to Newton's Laws! Love this series! :)
Even though he gets them wrong. The first law is the law of inertia, while the aktion-reaktion is the third law
As a student this gives me PTSD
He is pretty much right, but the amount of force hitting the person on the other end would really be less, since for especially bigger caliber bullets, not nearly all the energy gets transfered to the person
Yeah, but that projectile is generating a lot of energy, and if the round stops in the target, all of the force had to go somewhere. A standard 5,56 round generates nearly 1500 joules of force
Very interesting
The semi-auto pistol was a Borchardt C93. To be fair all I could remember was C93, and when he said B I figured it was Bergmann. I had it half wrong too. *edit - and I could be wrong but I believe that the "sharps" he points out is actually a Spencer carbine. The bolt action is actually a Krag Jorgenson
youre totally right on the sharps/spencer thing. the spencer had a magazine in the stock, and the sharps was a single shot breach loader. i understand why he confused them though.
@@finnie9223
At first I thought it was a spencer but you see it again in the weapon wheel and it’s an evans repeater
@@nickferries2777 They're talking about the weapon on the back of the enemy they saw during the M1899 pistol clip, not the repeater that arthur was using.
@@fisherthegoat yeah I know. That was an evans, not a spencer
The name Lars was thinking of was Borchardt C-93, the precursor to the Luger P08.
Beat me to the answer
@@Frank7G It's a big comment section, someone probably beat me to it as well.
Mauser 96 for me
Didn't know that the recoil you feel when shooting is also the same force that hits the target
Equal and opposite reaction
More like quickest and hardest boner
It is but it’s completely different. The bullet weighs a fraction of an oz and accelerates to thousands of feet per second before it hits with minimal surface area. Whereas on the shooters side the gun weighs like 8 lbs and isn’t allowed to accelerate at all, and pushes against a large surface.
It isn't always. He's not accounting for recoil absorbtion in semi-automatics.
But it's just not true. Yes you can't argue neutons law but you have to divide the weight of the projectile by the weight of the weapon. Then divide surface size of the bullet by the surface size of the buttstock. Then divide the second number by the first number. It's 1/1000 of the felt impact from the position of the shooter.
That math is probably miles off but it sounds about right Ahahaha
Fun Fact: The semi-auto pistol is based after the Borchardt C93. It's the same gun Dutch uses in RDR1. It's also known as the first mass-produced semi-auto pistol.
Another interesting game would be battlefield 1 for more historic weapons
Like half of BF1's are experimental stuff that never ready got used though (a few never in field use at all).
yea, cause they had laser sights in 1914
@@hatad321 yeah I knoe judt interesting idea to hear what they think of all the predecessors to modern weapons and stuff
or BF5
True that
I want these guys to look at slapped together weapons like fallouts pipe guns or borderlands bandit guns just to see their reaction to them, ngl my guess on their reaction would be "how is that thing even firing?"
The pipe guns in Fallout resemble the Sten submachine gun a bit.
It’s actually not hard to make functioning firearms, they’re very rudimentary but functional none the less
@@skeletonracingandgaming3407 They still look like a lobotomized ork made them with the remains of a bombed out walmart
@@skeletonracingandgaming3407 I always loved bow they have crazy bolt actions and fully automatic pipeguns, but they don't have the simplest one that would be the only one I'd think bandits would make!
A shotgun shell in a pipe!
@@Klausinator451 supposedly Bethesda had designed a concept for a pipe shotgun but I'm not sure about that.
This video teaches us that beaver oil will give you a smelly weapon.
And beaver fur is some of the softest fur you’ll ever feel. They are nature’s toilet seat covers.
3:02, Ha, sounds like my dad!
My dad is a Vietnam combat veteran with multiple medals including the Bronze Star for his courageous actions that saved about 20-30 guys' lives. He held his ground in a foxhole with 2 other guys at night while being overrun by the enemy. He didn't even know he was earning a medal, lol! He told me if he could have gotten out of the fight safely, he'd have done it, because you win every fight you avoid - from a survival perspective. He's definitely not a coward, just practical. If you can avoid a fight, you'd be wise to do so. You only fight if there is no other acceptable option. When running means death, then you gotta face the threat and give them hell.
This is actually why a good strategist always leaves their enemy an escape route. You don't win by killing every last enemy like in video games, you win a battle by forcing the enemy to retreat. The sooner they retreat, the sooner you stop your own casualties, and gain ground. If you corner your enemy, it's very common for them to become incredibly dangerous, as they will now take risky actions that they would have otherwise not taken, if they don't think surrender is an option.
I like that some missions in RDR2 actually end with the NPC/AI enemy in retreat. I wish it was more common in both RDR2 and gaming in general, as it's far more realistic and immersive for people to be aware that they're losing a fight, and deciding to live to fight another day, to retreat. Very rarely do you see combatants with so much conviction they'll fight to every last man if an obvious escape route is presented.
3:53 - 5:00
That’s actually the Henry. The reason why it looks like you can break it down is because based on the Volcanic repeater, but with an upgrade breach.
After both Smith and Wesson left the company it was bought out by Winchester, who made further changed to the design, ultimately becoming the “Yellow Boy” Winchester repeater.
Which ultimately became the vastly superior Model 1866 and 1873, after improving and doing the repeater design better than the Henry.
@@TheSilverShadow17 Yes, the Volcanic repeater, was upgraded into the Henry and after that was further upgraded into the Winchester “Yellow Boy” repeater after Winchester’s acquisition of Volcanic Arms company.
Correct if I’m wrong, but isn’t the Winchester still in production?
@@eds1942 I believe they still do make them, albeit as reproductions. Miroku for example builds brand new Yellow Boys and 1873s under license, but otherwise the rights still belong to the Winchester corporation.
@@TheSilverShadow17 That’s cool. It has a pretty interesting development history. I actually made a printable 3D model of the Volcanic, based on as many pictures and measurements that I could find. It doesn’t have the internal mechanisms though.
Personally I don’t have much of a reason to own guns where I live. But I got several real swords though. It’s just that the Volcanic pistol looks cool and the history and all…
@@eds1942 Indeed, despite the initial development being quite tragic at that. The Volcanic pistol was an attempt at merging the lever-action concept with the compactness of a typical six shooter back in those days, which ultimately was a flawed execution and design choice. Plus you had to worry about premature ignition of cartridges since it was a front-load design like the Henry rifle. The Volcanic is severely underrated and misunderstood, but what worked in theory didn't quite translate to reality that well lol.
05:28
No, Mr Expert, it's side mounted because the ejection port is on the top. Do you even Winchester, bro?
watching this makes me see the immense detail that rockstar put into each weapon like damn
It's too bad they're too focused on making 30 generations of GTA 5 rather than working on other projects.
@@unnamed715 I don't think you know but they started working on GTA 6 after the release of rdr2. One of Rockstar's insider even teased the GTA 6 release date and told what exactly they are working on
@@neelchaudhary8993 and they still let rdr2 die
@minzekatze what could they have added? Story basically can't be updated apart from bugfixes. And for multiplayer they would add some battlepass bs
Gunslingers in the old west actually often used the single handed dueler’s style. Kinda weird but that style was taught in the army all the way through WW2, kinda weird if ya ask me😂
Yeah, one handed was usually the way that pistol doctrine mandated the guns be used.
One handed pistol use actually gave you more room to move your arm and aim versus holding it with both hands.
I love how these guys play the game lighting up the legendary rat
When I saw the pump action shotgun come out I knew man’s was gonna being blowing limbs off
These guys are perfect for each other and red dead 2 is such a good game
This channel is something we need but we don't deserve
Incredible content
Thank you!
@@Gamology make pornstars react to porn videos
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The Lichfield is the Henry Lever Action Repeating rifle. The Lancaster is the Winchester.
And the m1899 is a fn not a 1911
@@gabber88ful he said its a precursor
What's funny is that it's the Winchester 1866 Yellow Boy. Those were largely phased out by 1899. I think Rockstar stuck with Yellow Boy because it's appeared in a couple of notable westerns that inspired the games.
I cringed when he said it was a 22. Bruh stop it.
@@generalwyf yeah he didn’t seem like an expert 💀
I think what these ppl don't realize is that authur is the munitions and weapons expert for the camp. He stocks all ammo in his wagon. And has been gunsliging since he was 16 (or even earlier because hosea said when they picked him up that there "wasn’t a wilder delinquint you ever did see") he's built up muscle memory for *many* guns.
Its not out of the question that he'd be strong enough to adequately use a sawn off like he does in the game, it's what he knows and he's certainly strong enough for it.
Not to mention single hand firing was common and expected for the time. You'd be viewed as a wimp if you shot with both hands or "scared of the recoil". It also came over from the calvary that would shoot with one hand often.
He's an awesome weapon handling expert but it would do well to bring on a historical weapons expert with knowledge on older gun techniques who don't view this stuff as "hollywood" bs.
Or just inform them on the game itself too. I would have loved him to talk a bit more on rim fire cartidges.
The bolt action rifle is a 30/40 kraig jorgensen. Pretty neat rifle as it has a trapdoor-esk loading mechanism to make it easy to reload on horse back. As far as I know it was praised for having one of smoothest bolt designs.
Even more interesting considering izzy played this game during his streams before, lol
12:20 someone has probably already said this but that bolt action is a Norwegian rifle called the Krag Jørgenson, given that it's in the US it would be chambered for 30-40 Krag
As a Norwegian, when I learned the Krag was standard issue for the US army at the turn of the century, I found that really cool. Like, Teddy Roosevelt was running around on Cuba with that thing.
The semi auto pistol is called the C93 Borchardt invented by Hugo Borchardt. Georg Luger was employed to promote the gun across military and civilian channels. The Germany Army asked Borchardt to change his gun design because the recoil was pretty massive and it was expensive to produce, etc. He didn’t want to, so they asked Luger to improve upon it. He did and he created the 1908 Luger we know now. ☺️👍🏻
I don't mean to be rude but the luger was made in 1898.
@@sn1k3r5gaming3 oh, sorry. My mistake then
10:21 "used for buffalo hunting" noted. every time I shoot a buffalo it either doesn't die in one shot, or it becomes a 1 star
The used to side mount the scopes because on the old repeaters the cartridges used to eject out the top so If it was mounted normally the cartridges would hit the scope
"If i could slow down time like that i would just leave" Is hands down my favorite answer too that question.
I felt nothing but Joy watching Micah get his ass filled with lead
Loving this series! But I wanna see more of Israel and Cameron together! The dynamic duo!!
Cameron should react to the Ranger missions in Call of Duty 2.
@@zerophantomyt433 MW 2*
@@sherlockholmes7630 No I'm talking about the missions in the original COD 2 that takes place in WW2. You go to the point du hoc and a bunch if other places as the rangers while playing as america in that game.
@@zerophantomyt433 wait wait.. point du hoc.. isn't it the Normandy level??
@@sherlockholmes7630 Yeah. Yo know, the one where you scale the rock wall and blow up artillery with (I think, I haven't played the game in a while) thermite bombs.
I love how for the semi auto they are killing Micah over and over again
Fun fact: Spring-Powered Finger Action was Rhett McLaughlin's nickname in high school
Me having to do homework while playing warzone: "I dont want to do math during a gunfight"
"Who is this sick sadistic man..."
Plot Twist: It was him playing all along. ×w×
They used fucking Micha for testing the Semi-Automatic Pistol. 🤣
7:14
Not that he didn't deserve it though.
Side mounted scopes were fairly standard when put on an early repeater because the shells ejected straight up. When they went to bolt actions (which they do in this game) top mounted scopes became standard.
“You can practice anything and be good at it” wise words
1:31 ‘That’s pretty rusty and crusty’ 🤣🤣🤣
If they're willing to come back again for a "less serious" video, could you please show them the Fallout weapons, for a slightly more bizarre take, considering the fatman, but also the more "clever" ones like the pipe guns.
6:13 C93 Borchardt. Invented by Hugo Borchardt 1893. Later improved upon by his assistant, Georg Luger, in 1898.
12:55 its a Krag. Was US standard issue from 1894-1906.
Always interesting when you meet an SF vet that doesn’t know that much about firearms. I’m a vet myself and I can tell you it’s more common then you might think to find a service member that really is only an expert in what they use. I knew every answer he was asking to guy sitting to his right but I actually really enjoy firearms. I’m not making fun of him just pointing out that someone being a vet doesn’t necessarily make them an expert in all guns. Like the fact that he didn’t know the difference between a bullet and a cartridge. Which any gun enthusiast would know.
We do not care what you think
@@Mr_Mistah Notable errors from this video, in order of appearance. (Per gun):
S&W Schofield. No issues here, but I want to clarify that Indiana Jones carried a Webley WG Army, not a S&W.
Double Action Revolver (Colt New Army & Navy): One-handed revolver and pistol shooting was the only way people did it up until the 1950’s or so. Two-handed shooting would be an anachronism. And casings becoming stuck is a natural result of case expansion upon firing.
Litchfield Repeater: This is a Henry Model 1860, not a Winchester Model 1873. The bronze receiver, front-loading, and lack of a handguard should have made this obvious. It is also not a takedown rifle, and it uses .44 rimfire, not .22.
Evans Repeating Rifle: they erroneously transitioned to footage of this rifle and continued referring to it as a Winchester and the segment of the video still says “Repeater”. He incorrectly implies that it uses a “stout” cartridge, despite it being chambered in what was essentially a pistol cartridge: .44 Evans Short. Also “recticle”? And the force of recoil is not the same as the bullet’s, the energy is. The gun absorbs most of the recoil. And lastly, that’s not why side-mounted scopes fell out of favor.
The C-93 Borchardt(Semi-automatic pistol) They fail to name it and describe the toggle action as “finger action” which does not sound like anything gun-related. Also, he implies that these are somewhat prevalent and popular today. They aren’t. Very few were made and they are $10K
The cool thing about the 1911 precursor in game is you can only get it in one of the guns shops, and that gun shop is in the city in game, one of the few places where you can see electricity being used
Not completely sure if they knew this but the bold action rifle is modeled after the bolt action krag-jørgensen, the in game model I believed fired an .30-40 krag. It saw production from 1886-1945 and it did see action up to ww2 with the Danish military as an standard issued rifle. Their ammo for the danish model was an 8×58mmR by the way
"If i could slow time down......I'd just leave"
Hahaha. Thanks Lars!
"Good ol' Beavershots back in town."
. . . There are SO many ways how he got that name.
Gun 2: The Litchfield Repeater mentioned is not a Winchester 1873. It's modeled after a Henry Model 1860 and is chambered in .44 Henry, not .22.
Gun 4: Cpt is right in that it starts w/a B. It's modeled after the Borchardt C-93 and did have the option to clip to a shoulder stock. It was one of Georg Luger's designs, who loved the toggle-lock design, which was based on the Maxim gun.
On the Sawed-Off Shotgun: In the United States, a Class III tax stamp would be required if it was a full-sized shotgun (barrel over 18" in length w/shoulder stock). However, if initially manufactured initially with a short barrel and pistol grip, it would be labeled as either a handgun or AOW (Any Other Weapon) and *usually* is not considered an NFA item (requiring a Class III tax stamp). (Obviously none of this is legal advice, just summarization of a metric f*ckton of legalese into plain-ish English). You also probably won't break your wrist firing one, most use the smaller 2.75" shell chambering, which reduces the recoil quite a bit.
On the Bolt-Action Rifle: Not a direct replication of any specific single gun, but rather has aspects of multiple Krag-Jørgensen 1899s (It's generally referred to as the Springfield Model 1892-99 in the US, but was most commonly found still chambered in the 30-40 Krag proprietary cartridge). The forestock and muzzle most closely resemble the artillery carbine version, while the buttstock looks more like it's supposed to be from the constabulary carbine (which was marketed to police departments).
8:00 hits different because in my first calculus class when we were learning about velocity and inertia our professor deadass said "well if you get shot with a bullet point blank, it's not stop at the top layer of your chest" 😭
The gun used Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade and Crystal Skull is a Webley Govenment (often called "green"), it is the only break action revolver used in the Indiana Jones franchise.
Edit: The gun at 3:52 is a Henry rifle, the difference between the Henry and the Winchester is that the Winchester has a wood handle on the front.
The pump action shotgun is a Model 1897.
The bolt action is also the krag but they didn’t know it exists so idk if they’re exactly gun experts
The difference between the Henry and Winchester rifles goes beyond the foregrip. This game (as does Fallout 3) correctly shows how the Henry is loaded, via that rotating barrel tip (which contains the magazine spring and "floor plate"). Winchesters load from a port on the right side of the receiver, as do most of their modern variants (like Marlin rifles, as an example). The reason why the scope is side mounted is to clear the ejection port, as most of these rifles were top ejecting.
@@brianchiasson2465 yeah I know, what I meant is that the most obvious difference between the two is the wood. The change from rotating barrel tip to load port was because of the grip.
@@xraystudios3693 No, it wasn't. You've got that backwards. Winchester was able to put a foregrip on their rifle because the new (and faster) loading gate system meant that the follower no longer got in the way. Trust me, I have a shelf full of books on late 1800's firearms, have handled and shot with many of them, and was a reenactor for many years.
@@brianchiasson2465 oh ok, I just assumed they came up with a new feeding system because after shooting too much the barrel would get hot and needed something to grab on to that wasn't metal.
Now that youve put me in a western mood, I kinda wanna see gun experts react to hunt showdown now(or any other expert that would work for that setting)
The bolt action rifle is Springfield Model 1892-99 Krag-Jørgensen rifle and the shotgun is Winchester model 1897.
You'd think they would try a little harder to vet their so-called "specialist". Out of all the guns he identified he definitively got one correct, of the ammo he said they used he didn't didn't get any correct. I don't understand how someone with such a limited knowledge of guns can be considered an authority on the subject.
I recommend having them react to Tarkov and/or Ground Branch, the two games with the most in-depth customization I know of
I was watching Invincible when this showed up in my notifications feed
RUclips notifies you as soon as it is put up? Impossible
Sorcery
Brilliant show isn't it?
@@syedaliabdulrahman9337 Invincible
"Gun Experts" do not recognize such famous models as Borchardt C93 (the father of Luger pistols construction), FN m1900 (first "slide" pistol), M1897 (first successful - mass production pump action)
For real this is some BASIC historical gun knowledge. Also saying the gun " heating up" as opposed to fouling causes a sticky action is firearm mechanics 101.
Don’t forget calling an 1869 Henry rifle a Winchester.
Not only that I've learned alot about gums but i also get to learn new things about my favorite character of all time at 1:12? Sick
" Engraving, give you no tactical advantage what so ever." from a legend to another legend.
But they do look cool, in honesty.
love the Krag, surprised they didnt recognize the Trench Gun (1897), or maybe they just didnt comment on it
4:04 I understand he probably doesn't know the weapon well but as a firearm history guy that loves the old west and world war era weapons which is where all the firearm technology we have know stemmed from hearing him call the Lichfield which is supposed to be a Henry 1860 repeater a winchester 1873 when the Henry loads exactly like the Litchfield and the 1873 winchester loads from a side mounted loading gate like the Lancaster in the game kinda annoyed me
Day 9 of asking for a robotics expert to react to Titanfall 2
Ya know that would be interesting.
Ok that would be cool, I dunno where they would find a robotics expert willing to come on but still, love the idea
What about Five Nights at Freddy's?
You got a better chance with a mechanic
@@hoodiegangking7412 I'm Mickley mouse.
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It's the precursor of the Luger made by a man called Borchardt. He was really only known for being involved in the conceptual parts of the Luger pistol in the early 20th century (though his initial design was made just before the turn of the century around 1897 or so.) That specific pistol was eventually updated with some new components to get rid of the awkward mechanism on the back of the slide but Borchardt refused to change the design so he was eventually fired, though his name was kept with the weapon until it was adopted by various militaries/governments and given the designation that each purchaser decided. We all know the succeeding pistols as "Luger" and the rest, as they say, is history.
“Looks like a winchester, maybe 1873”
Henry 1860, the father of all lever gats
"expert"
Oh, really?
Its sad, that they missed the LeMat :/
And, maybe the bolt action rifle was the Krag Jorgensen?
It is the krag. You can tell by the loading
3:52 It's not based off of a Winchester, its based off of a Henry Repeater, which would explain the octagonal barrel and obvious (and completely different) reload mechanism. I thought these guys were supposed to be experts but they're completely wrong...
He got so many things wrong. I hope they didn't pay him for this.
Experts are still humans and humans make mistakes
He didn’t even know what the krag was
This dude... =D
"Dual wielding: When you want to miss with TWO guns at once."
The Bolt Action Rifle was based on the Krag-Jorgensen 1892. The flat pistol is FN Modele 1899 which Browning sold to the Belgians and was issued in the US as the Browning 1900. It was a .32 cal and the first slide pistol.
5:14 I never noticed John picking up Jack and hiding him and for some reason it's just so cute
I really want the spec op experts react to arma meme videos. Something from nordern, rimmy or soviet.