For the Thanos finisher, I like the idea of him not firing a laser or anything, but just...Snapping his fingers and dealing a massive amount of damage. If he finishes them off, there's a special animation where they just....Evaporate.
I envision something like Fugo in JoJo All Star Battle where there is an animation of them disintegrating, but they would only disappear if it kills them.
i think they could still do the "squirrel girl beats literally anyone but you never see it happen" gag as a special animation where if you land one of her regular supers and the opponent's at low enough health that it's going to finish them off the camera pans to one of her squirrels eating a nut while you only get to _hear_ the sounds of squirrel girl kicking the other person's ass and by the time it pans back they're already downed
Unlike most of the comments here, I did watch your 2nd video on this. The roster with the full DLC does rectify most of the minor flubs here, though it’s pretty dang certain that things like Thor and Chun-Li being DLC would cause a major stink if that were to ever happen. An alternative is to at least make these two available, but unlockable.
Maybe they could announce that due to constraints they had to reduce the roster but hype up the DLC with those two being revealed as planned DLC on launch
@@lukedeakin7124 I could see that leaving a bad taste in some players mouths. I like his idea of dropping a couple characters for free every few months so those high demand legacy characters could be that. As long as you're online during their release event you get them for free
@@thedillpickleman015 I mean those character were returning, but they aren't like iconic to the game, thor and Chun Lee being DLC is like if link, samus and captain falcon were DLC it doesn't feel right
I love the fact that in the Game-We-Don't-Talk-About, it was all about the Infinity Gems and Capcom missed the opportunity to put in a Power Stone character like everyone expected. Let's hope they add one in the new game.
Even if I don't like some choices for the roster, I REALLY love that this is more based in the comics instead of saying "He's in the MCU, he gets in", because for me one of the worst decisions for a Marvel vs. Cacpom would be make it Marvel Cinematic Universe vs. Capcom instead of making it Marvel COMICS vs. Capcom
Gotta strike a balance, I think. It only makes sense to include the characters with the largest fan base, which like it or not, is the MCU. But, you gotta plant seeds for future media crossovers too, and the source for those is still the comics.
Just wanna say I love the video and that Capcom could learn a thing or two from you if they listened. BUT, what I happiest of all to hear was when you broke down how MvCI tried to turn Black Panther into a psuedo Wolverine and spoke of all the things he should have had in his arsenal of moves. For someone who loves T'challa and was happy to see him make the roster UNTIL I played him, Its great to see someone who's like minded on the topic.
Cause this guy an idiot. Like seriously this man said leaving Captain Marvel out is like leaving Wonder Woman out of DC but then leaves the woman of fighting games out. WHAT?
All I know is cable and juggernaut better be in the game or no thank you LOL also if you are gonna put the original Street fighter character from street fighter one the Japanese guy please use the Marvel versus cabcom three version I thought he really had a lot of additional bonuses and instead of that weird super where he charges up and like I can reflect his super in a ricochets of the war give them another like actual super you know what I mean by that actually not I I can’t understand why they did that you know he kinda needed that that I kinda liked that they gave him that additional bonus But yeah the marvel three version not the infinite version I don’t know why the hell they did that lol
@@samonlingboy4408 This is added the X-Men some marvel versus Sacramento Kings at any time everyone would’ve been happy with me the number for each side of the copies you love you do you wanna see your iconic X-Men characters in the game is really upsetting but also the company starts to do too much with the game like the stone system that in my opinion ruined the game you know how they not added the stone system at all infinite actually would’ve been a pretty damn good game but they ruined it with the sole system I tried to get them to get it take it out of the game but they wouldn’t listen to me
@@samonlingboy4408 you have to admit that what’s the stone system was activated it became way harder to see the characters on the screen and it at that point you know no longer is about skill and talent it’s more a matter of trying to get lucky and getting lucky because you know the appointment might not be able to see you know as easily as they did before the stone system was activated in the first place so that’s why disagree with that I’d rather find games being entirely based off of talent I don’t mind losing to good players but I can’t stand losing to players that are nowhere near as good as me
Why not make it Wolverine? He's way more famous and popular than Cyclops. Magneto would make sense too. Did anyone main Cyclops? Personally, i think Iceman, Cable and Ironman were all more interesting anf effective projectile characters in MVC 2
Id personally have Cyclops replace Wolverine in his roster simply due to Ryu and Cyclops rivalry back in XMvsSF. Also of they really wanna show love to X-Men using Cyclops is better since Wolverine has been that guy Marvel keeps using when they refused to use the X-Men in their cartoons. Also Storm and Nightcrawler are 2nd gen X-Men so Cyclops repping 1st gen is improtant to me.
A slight change for Asura... instead of low health, his level 3 only turns him into Berserker form... when his two allies are dead, because the crux for his Berserker form is losing a person he cared about, so I thought this would make more sense
Man, thank you so much for acknowledging _Power Stone_ exists! That's a great and seriously underrated little series that I'd love to see return to the limelight.
"marvel is trying to promote her as marvels biggest female character. Leaving her out would be like leaving out wonder women from the next injustice game ." Doesn't add chun li who is the woman of sf and possibly even capcom 🤦🏾♂️
Yeah she’s pretty much Capcom’s main female character. As much as I don’t care for Captain Marvel, she will most likely be in MvC4 because Disney really wants to shove her down people’s throats.
@@EnderTitan Honestly Captain Marvel is ok, but not super cool, but we need a woman hero so fuck it take this uninteresting and horribly adapted character. Like honestly I would rather have nearly any other female Marvel character.
Thor and Chun-Li being left out feels really weird. I understand your logic, but maybe bump the base roster (minus legacy characters) up to 50? Regardless, this sounds like a really hype roster and you’ve earned a new subscriber. On another note wrt this series as a whole: are you only going to tackle pre-existing fighting game franchises, or will you also tackle hypothetical newcomers to the genre? For example, I’ve always wanted to see an Avatar the Last Airbender fighting game, could that (or something similar) be a viable topic?
@Strider Xanthos Sure, fans that don't buy comics. Sales are a very good indicator of popularity and her books have always sold terribly. Also she's never been high/mid tier in infinite. I play the game regularly and to think she's even close to being in the same tier as say Sigma is fairly silly.
It's hilarious in hindsight that you cut Chun Li to make room for more non-Street Fighter characters, and Added Akira to include more obscure characters, and then they added Akira to Street Fighter V to nullify both XD
If The Thing has Human Torch for one of his Supers, Then Mr. Fantastic (as DLC) should have his wife Invisible Woman in one of his Supers. That way the entire team is here.
Seriously. BoF has needed representation in this series since the beginning. And honestly Nina is the better of the two characters... though Katt might have been a cool pick too.
Pivoting the classic hulk into Immortal hulk would be such an amazing idea! He could tear off limbs and attack with them separately, he could summon demons as assists, he could FINALLY switch into bruce banner for some ranged attacks. PLUS any design space thats missing could be filled in by the Thing!
For Squirrel Girl, you could ABSOLUTELY make her "off-panel" dealie work; just give her a super where she tackles you past the edge of the screen, then kick up a weird, cartoony violence cloud from offscreen, then cut/scroll back to her standing atop the opponent's crumpled body.
Watching through, enjoying, some good picks. 'New challenger' comes right before an ad for the new Stargirl show. When the ad finished, guess who was on screen? Star-Lord.
Ngl I rly don't agree with the roster philosophy here. I do want more new characters but I do think there should be a large priority on bringing back beloved characters from 1 and especially 2. The main problem with Infinite was that the majority of the roster was retreads from 3.
MvC2 i think is the most important game in the series; so of course inspiration should come from them more then the less popular ones. Heck they brought McV2 back for evo
The ideal situation would be an 'Everyone is here' with a handful of new characters. I know it would be crazy but what better to capture the spirit of MvC than a gigantic batshit crazy roster.
I have been a Black Panther fan since 94 when I discovered him in that Fantastic Four cartoon that was some what connected to the x-men and spider-man shows. I have also been a fan of the vsCapcom series from the start. I was happy when he showed up in Infinite but I was like he should have so much more than just claw based attacks. I was screaming tech, magic, and Dora Milajae glad to see someone else saw this and had the same reaction I did .
I would like Cyclops to return because he comes after wolverine in relevancy. Also he's extremely underrated. Give sum love for Cyclops. P.d: Optic blast for life.
He was awesome during the 90s. Then they kept fucking up every single aspect of his character in the comics, movies (if he even was there at all) and games. Now he's a joke. He had a decent portrait on X-men Evolution (probably because there wasn't that permanent goddamn Cyclops-Jean-Wolverine love triangle that doesn't go anywhere) but he was at his best during the 90s: the animated series, Jim Lee comics run and X-men vs Street Fighter game series. Bring that Cyclops back!
I love this entire concept and I understand your thought process, but I'm still sad Nemsis and Frank West would be cut, but I could still see them in a Halloween Themed DLC with cool costumes (Maybe A Zombie Frank and a Nemisis skin based on R.E. Village)
Rival Schools, Breath of Fire and Power Stone needs more love. I would love to see Demitri screaming Fire on the screen. Foul-lu and Ryu from Bof. Capcom can use the same method as Phoenix and Phoenix Wright. They can do Ryu from SF and say Ryu the Dragon from Bof or add Nina. We need a way better version of Megaman X as well with more moves
You don’t want to overdue the whole “Phoenix effect” imo gotta be real careful and selective. Don’t want to have 5-15 with some sort of low health power boost
Ideas for certain left out returning characters: Rocket Raccoon: Groot now has three levels: Baby, Teen, and Adult. Hyper Combo Ultra Groot Venom: Knull skin has a alternate Level 3 featuring Knull... or he can be featured as a stage Gamora: now features Nebula, a fight as one situation. Replaces shadow combination as both fighting at once. Amateraseau: Nothing really, just a very good dog. Nemesis: Remake twist Taskmaster: some more attacks would be nice. Nova: Summon the entire Nova corps for Level 3 And that's all I got. Looking forward to part 2!!!
It's kinda a bad excuse to deny a character's spot cause they were in infinite. Like Ultron and Sigma and even Jedia. We know they would be returning but like...Every time you mentioned they were in infinite and "no one wants to remember it". To validate your reasons is unfair. But the list of the new characters had me HYPE AS FUCK...not gonna lie.
I feel like he wasn’t serious about that being the reason why, he probably just wanted to put in other characters more, so he came up with a joke reason, because the video isn’t a review, it’s just entertainment. But yeah this was a great roster
@@rubberduckproductions544 I would agree but he gave no other reasons to give a reason why they should not be in. Plus those guys had 1 game appearance. But then mentions a power stone character and mentioned a similar mechanic in his moveset. But yeah...
It's going to be a year since this and the channel premiered, Thorgi. Any chance of an Anniversary Look-back to let us know your other ideas? I seriously want to know what you intended for DLC packs and other little bits you couldn't share in PArt 2 because of video length.
For the Squirrel Girl special I was thinking maybe something like the raging demon move from Akuma, where the screen goes to black, we hear fighting noises, and then the image comes back with her enemy unexplainably lying on the floor beaten
In MvC4, it would be so sick if Thanos actually got to use his gauntlet with all of the infinity stones. That would lead to such a cool character design.
46:40- I think for Mystique, you could take inspiration from Double, a character from Skullgirls. Double is a shape shifting entity, and each of her moves has her transform into a character from the roster to copy one move of theirs. For example, she copies a move from Filia for her standing light punch, a move from Peacock for her standing medium punch, a move from Cerebella for her standing heavy punch, et cetera.
I know what you mean but I was thinking of Shang Tsung from mk11 where some of his move have him turn into the mk ninjas even some who are in the game so I think Mystique should use move from the X-Men characters even some who are not in the game so yeah
I would love to see a roster where each persons moves /super moves, interact with each other in a cool fusion. For example: Imagine Captain America with Guile and the super move has guile powering up Cap's shield with a Sonic boom somehow
Rogue will always trump Captain Marvel. Although.... as a level three super, Captain Marvel could prep a super, then Rogue could appear, eat her, and then finish the match!
Rogue would make more people happy, plus if the whole point was not to remind people of MvC:I, then getting rid of Captain Marvel would be good because she was in the reveal of the game (and she's on the box).
It's crazy how many of these picks are now in the Community Edition of MvC3, or coming soon to it. They even used your idea for one of The Thing's supers to call in Johnny!
tommy uchiha Tru, but most of the extras mentioned are not super popular, or straight up generic troops. There are a lot more interesting and dramatic supers, like for Thanos, why tf should the black order show up when The Snap is his most iconic thing?
@@LizardKingRequiem i think it just comes down do u think its better to have one character get represented well or to have as many characters as possible and i think since it is a crossover it should have as many characters as possible
tommy uchiha I can see that for crossovers, u right. I’m just someone who loves seeing flashy and creative attacks in things, so I tend to focus on that a lot. I’ll always prefer alt costumes or skins that rep other chars tbh
aretmaSu she’s not the female ryu and ryu is the face of the franchise. The reason he said that is bc she’s in every crossover except smash and ken wasn’t even in mvc infinite
Just for fun I thought I would make my dream version of the roster using the rules you used in the video. Marvel Returning Hulk, Spiderman,iron man, Captain America, Wolverine,Cyclops,Storm,Magneto,Black Panther, Deadpool, Dr.Doom, Thanos Capcom Returning Zero, Mega man x, Ryu, Chun li, Monster hunter, Dante, Virgil, Amateratsu, Morigan, Jedah, Felicia, Ruby Heart Marvel New Blade,Black Bolt, Carnage, Star Lord, NightCrawler, Scarlett Witch, Ms.Marvel, Miles Morales, Human Torch,cloak&dagger, Loki, Doctor Octopus Capcom New Leon,Asura, Rashid, Laura, Dr.Wiley, Edward Falcon,Sasquatch,lady, Akira,Taliban, Abigail
1:00 Thorgi, i love ya man and it is with absolute love that i say...this comment aged like the finest milk you could ever buy and we've never been happier.
Pacha Yeah, but the thing with Mystique is that she doesn’t copy powers. She can do wings and claws. But she can’t suddenly fire optic blasts or control metal.
Maybe one of her supers can be like the nightmare region where she transforms into characters that didn't get in the game (Frank West, Chun li, Hsien-ko ETC)
Decided to make my own little MvC 4 mockup roster using the same number of fighters you did before watching, but decided to include 18 veterans and 6 newcomers for each company. This is the roster I came up with (new characters will be listed in bold) Marvel: Wolverine, Cyclops, Magneto, Storm, Captain America, Hulk, Spider-Man, Shuma Gorath, Venom, Iron Man, Dr. Doom, Sentinel, Thanos, Thor, Deadpool, Dr. Strange, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, *Daredevil*, *Doc-Ock (The Spiderverse Iteration)*, *Falcon*, *Loki*, *Scarlet Witch* and *Star Lord* Capcom: Ryu, Chun-Li, Akuma, Morrigan, Strider Hiryu, Captain Commando, Jin Saotome, Mega Man, Tron Bonne, Amingo, Ruby Heart, Jill Valentine, Amaterasu, Dante, Zero, Nemesis, Phoenix Wright, Monster Hunter, *Abyss (the OC final boss of MvC 2 that was never made playable)*, *Asura*, *Jon Talbain*, *Juri*, *Leon Kennedy* and *Nina (Breath of Fire)* Was surprised to see how much overlap I had with the new characters added in the video but I personally like this roster here
Yes to Edward Falcon, Akira, and Asura on the Capcom side. Blade, Nightcrawler, and Squirrel girl! I'm a huge Power Stone fan so thank you for mentioning that series!
What about for crossover Marvel vs Capcom 4 band new character is capcom team Sakura Karin Batsu phoenix wright miles edgeworth franziska von karma and team marvel spider-gwen black cat luke cage spiderman venom and silver sable here we go 13 character DLC pack best of marvel vs. capcom 4 series hope enjoy it peace out.
Using this format, here's my roster: Marvel: Iron Man Captain America Spider-Man Hulk Wolverine Thanos Deadpool Magneto Venom Dr. Doom Captain Marvel Black Panther Moon Knight Daredevil Loki Scarlet Witch Ms. Marvel Star-Lord Nightcrawler The Fantastic Four Blade Green Goblin Black Bolt Ant-Man CAPCOM: Ryu Chun-Li Mega Man Dante Monster Hunter Amaterasu Morrigan Zero Strider Hiryu Wesker Phoenix Wright Haggar Date Masamune Asura Nero Juri Bass.EXE Nina (Breath of Fire 3) Gene Kaijin no Soki Edward Falcon Jon Talbain Gill Saki Omokane
Happy Two Year Anniversary, Thorgi! Still hoping if there's any chance of an Anniversary Look-back to let us know your other ideas. You did such a good job, that I *still* want to know what you intended for DLC packs and other little bits you couldn't share in Part 2 because of video length.
59:50 Dude! She beats the crap out of other characters off screen. Well, how about her lvl3 being a dash then a grab, screen goes black and then her- wait a second, that's the Raging Demon from Akuma. Would that be possible? BoF Nina could have a moveset kinda similar to that of Android 18/17 in Dragon ball fighterZ or Rocky/Groot in MvCI. Then people would see Ryu showing up more often, not only during a super. Also, they could make Mahvel1 Ryu. He'd spend a bar to get to use Ken's or Akuma's moves during the match. That way you would have an extra Legacy fighter spot available. OR THEY COULD JUST MAKE RYU INTO A GOOD CHARACTER, WHICH DOESN'T HAPPEN SINCE MARVEL1 (alright he was good in Tatsunoko vs Capcom, but still...) denjin hadouken, power of nothingness, five him something!! He was the only SF character that was in a pro player's team in tournaments. Just saying I absolutely loved your roster, man. Magik, Princess Devilot, Nero, Starlord, Rashid, Scarlet Witch, Falcon, The Thing!... I would love to see those characters in a future installment of Marvel.
Honestly, even after seeing Part 2, my main suggestion is to add Chun-Li as the last Capcom Character for the Base Roster, while for Thor I can ironically see him “replaced” with Jane Seymour whom picked Mjolnir akin to the Comics and the Love and Thunder Movie, with her being his Legacy Fighter as well as a sort of Test Character per say to see what can be tweaked from Thor’s moveset for his eventual return in DLC, with her being faster but not as strong.
honestly i had an idea for where Nero's level 3 would trigger by knocking the opponent unconscious, followed by calling Nico at a phonebooth. then as Nico was driving to Nero's location, he would toss the unconscious opponent into where Nico was heading, having her run the opponent over with the van.
Hmm. I don’t know. This guy is cutting out a lot of important characters. His list might not be valid. “Leon will call Mike the helicopter support!” On second thought, this man is genius! Let this be real! EDIT: dang though, I really wanted Zach & Wiki.
as someone who's never played MvC, the wildest part of this video to me was seeing which characters had never been in the games. like, Leon S. Kennedy?! Green Goblin?! _Squirrel Girl?!?!_
Here's an Idea: when The Thing uses the super with Johnny, Ben Grimm could say something like "Watch it, Matchstick!" as The Human Torch shoots fire across the field.
Actually I think for Hulk more simpler would be red hulk some fire damage but make him slower and super were he uses weapons meant to kill or damage big green giant.
Here, I have a better idea. It's a craaazy stretch but most people can agree: Give it the *Ultimate* treatment. Bring everyone back, and give us more characters and some more as DLC. So like a bonus 4/8 characters from each side as new additions, and then an extra 5/6 characters from each side as DLC later. I mean, have you seen Naruto Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm 4? Storm 1 and 2 had about 20 characters. 3 cranked that shit up to about 60/70, and then 4 dropped a fat boost and brought it up to like 90/100 and then DLC was brought on the table! This guy's roster, yeah I can see some points, but you left out some idols, some real diamonds in the rough and even *THE FACES OF CAPCOM AND MARVEL.* Also, some funny "moments" (which I will keep adding): "I had to cut Chun Li, she's been in nearly all of these, but Ryu stays" lmao, so did Ryu but you don't cut him. "I weighed *all* their pros and cons. The ones I picked were just *better choices"* So, you picked some from Capcom, some from Marvel, and yet, despite fandom, actual popularity, and postering, you chose *your own decisions.* "We're going alphabetical here" Akira, Blade, Asura, Daredevil, Donovan, Green Goblin, Edward Falcon... Yeah, *alphabetical,* sure "I'm bringing in Spiderman's biggest enemy, Green Goblin, not Venom" Sure, I get it that Green Goblin is *one* of Spiderman's biggest enemies, but so is Doctor Octopus, Electro, Rhino, Shocker, Mysterio, Black Cat etc "Power Stone was a Capcom fighting game where you collect several multicoloured gems where you can get amazing powers" Yeah, literally Thanos and the Infinity stone's, but you cut him "Out of all the important and booming Marvel characters, I'm suprised Ms Marvel didn't get included!" Yet, there's more important marvel characters like Silver Surfer, Ant Man or White Tiger that never popped up "Lord Raptor is an Aussie Rock star" Me, casually looking at the United Kingdom flag on his leg: *Interesting* "In infinite, they dropped the females to not even 10% of the roster" I'm sure that 4/30 is more than 10% chief. 3/30 is 10% because if you times 3 by 10 it becomes 30, making 3 = 10% of the roster. *I see someone didn't do math class* "Rashid wasn't just one of the biggest stars, but he has a big fan base" There's SO MANY characters with a bigger fanbase than Rashid! You have Cammy, Guile, goddamn Dahlsim, Sagar and Zangief! There's even newer (To my knowledge) characters like Cody, Zeku, Necalli, Akuma that have a bigger fanbase, you can even bring Blanka in and people will go *Oh yeah I remember him* not Rashid when it's like *Oh yeah, that guy* "I picked The Thing, it was hard to pick out of all the other members" The Thing is like Hulk, both involve fighting, brawling and throwing literal objects. Mr Fantastic would be a good pick due to his distance covering like Dhalsim. Sue Storm for invisibility and force moves, including an air jump like Dante. Human torch, yeah he's a difficult one because we had at least a couple of fire based characters like Dormamu and Nova so I wouldn't pick Johnny honestly. "You would be crazy if you wanted anything more from this game" Well yes, a choice that isn't limited to *your own views and opinions* as well as this, you chose so many unknowns instead of fan favourites . Look, I love this idea, I really do. I'm sorry for technically dropping so much pain and shit like a hater, but I'm just comparing factors and bias.
If we do get a Capcom vs Marvel 4, I really hope Ruby Heart comes back. She's so unique in design, and I always wished Capcom created a series just for her. But I know that will never ever happen.
@@hasthehighground8560 Aside from gameplay, you'd rather have lame sentinel, instead of Gambit, Cyclops, Rogue, Iceman, Mister Sinister, Sabretooh, and countless other X-men characters? I stand by my original statement....LAMEST and most broken character ever.
Love the video! I liked the new additions, but there were definitely some head scratchers. Also some cutbacks felt unnecessary. You even said, MvC has a large roster to pull from, so I don't think 24 returning was enough. In my opinion, I think it should've been 32 returning veterans and 16 newcomers.
With the recent collection announcement, IF we ever do get another Marvel vs Capcom, Kamala Kahn, Star Lord and Blade are obvious candidates for newcomers. I predict 40 characters for base roster
Great concept of a roster you came up with, man. We’d love to see Miles and Leon get their times to shine in this series too :) With a series like this, we’d love to see you make a concept of a roster for a theoretically new Capcom vs. SNK game for future videos; even though we love Capcom vs SNK 2, what we love to see in the new installment is more variety in the roster than having too much Street Fighter and King of Fighters characters. Because I was spoiled by MvC1, CvS1 roster felt rather disappointing that it shouldn’t even be called Capcom vs SNK at the time; I mean, where’s Mega Man? Where’s Strider Hiryu? Where anyone else within the Capcom library of games than just Street Fighter? Well they have Morrigan in the home console version, but that’s about it. CvS2’s roster maybe better, but it still feels like it needs to be more versatile. And now that we have more ton of games on both company, this is a good opportunity to have a brand new installment of Capcom vs SNK to go all out with the roster than restrict itself with 1-5 series each. Don’t you agree? :D
Ryu vs Kyo Ken vs Terry Chun-Li vs Mai Haggar vs Goro Daimon Dante vs Haohmaru Strider Hiryu vs Hanzo (World Heroes) Nina vs Hibiki Takane Mega Man vs Marco Rossi
1:06:35 If you really want an Onimusha character in the game, there’s always Soki from Dawn of Dreams. He wasn’t modeled after any real life person (that I know of) which is how he got into Tatsunoko vs. Capcom.
I honestly think Chun-Li and Thor need to be here in place of other characters, but I really don't know who. In my opinion, we should remove one of the new characters from each side and put back those two, as they're just too big of characters to remove in my opinion
Nice vid. I always thought Daredevil, one of my favorite superheroes, would be perfect for a fighting game. But also, having Loki without Thor would be like having Venom without Spiderman or Magneto without any of the X-men.
Great video! I made my own a little while ago with 60 characters, 20 returning and 10 newcomers on each side Marvel Returning: Iron Man, Spider-Man, Hulk, Dr. Doom, Wolverine, Magneto, Cable, Storm, Sentinel, Cpt. America, Cyclops, Thanos, Deadpool, Ghost Rider, Gambit, Thor, Venom, Taskmaster, Psylocke, Shuma-Gorath Marvel Newcomers: Green Goblin, Carnage, Star Lord, Mr. Fantastic, Thing, Spider-Ham, Loki, Punisher, Daredevil, Quicksilver Capcom Returning: Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Chun-Li, Dante, Vergil, Zero, Sigma, Mega Man or X, Morrigan, Amingo, Ruby Heart, Jill, Nemesis, Wesker, Strider Hiryu, Tron Bonne, Phoenix Wright, Cpt. Commando, Haggar Capcom Newcomers: Leon Kennedy, Asura, Nero, V, Cody, G, Tessa, Proto Man, Pyron, Edward Falcon
@@raymanfan9265 Yessir! I wanted to make sure at least most of the original cast for MSH was on the roster, only ones I excluded were Juggs and Blackheart
For the Thanos finisher, I like the idea of him not firing a laser or anything, but just...Snapping his fingers and dealing a massive amount of damage. If he finishes them off, there's a special animation where they just....Evaporate.
I GREATLY dislike Thanos, but that *IS* on brand for him.
I envision something like Fugo in JoJo All Star Battle where there is an animation of them disintegrating, but they would only disappear if it kills them.
having that happen to Spider-Man should trigger an Achievement just called "I don't feel so good-"
He should have a 5 bar hyper where each character on the enemy team has a 50% chance of disapearing.
i think they could still do the "squirrel girl beats literally anyone but you never see it happen" gag as a special animation where if you land one of her regular supers and the opponent's at low enough health that it's going to finish them off the camera pans to one of her squirrels eating a nut while you only get to _hear_ the sounds of squirrel girl kicking the other person's ass and by the time it pans back they're already downed
Unlike most of the comments here, I did watch your 2nd video on this. The roster with the full DLC does rectify most of the minor flubs here, though it’s pretty dang certain that things like Thor and Chun-Li being DLC would cause a major stink if that were to ever happen.
An alternative is to at least make these two available, but unlockable.
Maybe they could announce that due to constraints they had to reduce the roster but hype up the DLC with those two being revealed as planned DLC on launch
@@lukedeakin7124 I could see that leaving a bad taste in some players mouths. I like his idea of dropping a couple characters for free every few months so those high demand legacy characters could be that. As long as you're online during their release event you get them for free
@@kellym4389 just drop captain commando and captain marvel and there you have it
MewTwo, Lucas, and Roy where dlc in Smash 4 and I didn’t see a lot of people fuss about it. Just don’t make the dlc expensive and we’re good to go.
@@thedillpickleman015 I mean those character were returning, but they aren't like iconic to the game, thor and Chun Lee being DLC is like if link, samus and captain falcon were DLC it doesn't feel right
Thorgi: “Tough cuts had to be made.”
Thanos: “The toughest of choices require the strongest of wills.”
And then Akira got announced to Street Fighter V... crazy timing.
Yeah talk about a crazy coincidence
I love the fact that in the Game-We-Don't-Talk-About, it was all about the Infinity Gems and Capcom missed the opportunity to put in a Power Stone character like everyone expected. Let's hope they add one in the new game.
Pretty comical imo
Even if I don't like some choices for the roster, I REALLY love that this is more based in the comics instead of saying "He's in the MCU, he gets in", because for me one of the worst decisions for a Marvel vs. Cacpom would be make it Marvel Cinematic Universe vs. Capcom instead of making it Marvel COMICS vs. Capcom
Just forget that, marvel comics is dead and Disney killed it, all ancillary marvel appearances exist to sell mcu tickets… breaks my heart
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All Disney cares about is the money made form the MCU. They figure that's what everyone knows. But it's so damn limited.
Gotta strike a balance, I think. It only makes sense to include the characters with the largest fan base, which like it or not, is the MCU. But, you gotta plant seeds for future media crossovers too, and the source for those is still the comics.
Just wanna say I love the video and that Capcom could learn a thing or two from you if they listened. BUT, what I happiest of all to hear was when you broke down how MvCI tried to turn Black Panther into a psuedo Wolverine and spoke of all the things he should have had in his arsenal of moves. For someone who loves T'challa and was happy to see him make the roster UNTIL I played him, Its great to see someone who's like minded on the topic.
My favorite part of this video is that by the Returning Characters alone, the roster was already better than Infinite
Ouch
Chun-Li is in every Capcom crossover she's the 1st Lady Of Fighting Games how can she be excluded.
Cause this guy an idiot.
Like seriously this man said leaving Captain Marvel out is like leaving Wonder Woman out of DC but then leaves the woman of fighting games out. WHAT?
Watch part 2
All I know is cable and juggernaut better be in the game or no thank you LOL also if you are gonna put the original Street fighter character from street fighter one the Japanese guy please use the Marvel versus cabcom three version I thought he really had a lot of additional bonuses and instead of that weird super where he charges up and like I can reflect his super in a ricochets of the war give them another like actual super you know what I mean by that actually not I I can’t understand why they did that you know he kinda needed that that I kinda liked that they gave him that additional bonus But yeah the marvel three version not the infinite version I don’t know why the hell they did that lol
@@samonlingboy4408 This is added the X-Men some marvel versus Sacramento Kings at any time everyone would’ve been happy with me the number for each side of the copies you love you do you wanna see your iconic X-Men characters in the game is really upsetting but also the company starts to do too much with the game like the stone system that in my opinion ruined the game you know how they not added the stone system at all infinite actually would’ve been a pretty damn good game but they ruined it with the sole system I tried to get them to get it take it out of the game but they wouldn’t listen to me
@@samonlingboy4408 you have to admit that what’s the stone system was activated it became way harder to see the characters on the screen and it at that point you know no longer is about skill and talent it’s more a matter of trying to get lucky and getting lucky because you know the appointment might not be able to see you know as easily as they did before the stone system was activated in the first place so that’s why disagree with that I’d rather find games being entirely based off of talent I don’t mind losing to good players but I can’t stand losing to players that are nowhere near as good as me
I like the video but cyclops shaking ryu’s hand opened the vs series
This
Why not make it Wolverine? He's way more famous and popular than Cyclops. Magneto would make sense too. Did anyone main Cyclops? Personally, i think Iceman, Cable and Ironman were all more interesting anf effective projectile characters in MVC 2
Id personally have Cyclops replace Wolverine in his roster simply due to Ryu and Cyclops rivalry back in XMvsSF. Also of they really wanna show love to X-Men using Cyclops is better since Wolverine has been that guy Marvel keeps using when they refused to use the X-Men in their cartoons.
Also Storm and Nightcrawler are 2nd gen X-Men so Cyclops repping 1st gen is improtant to me.
@@agentorangecb1 they're both leaders
Cyclops is criminally underrated. 🤦🏾♂️
A slight change for Asura...
instead of low health, his level 3 only turns him into Berserker form... when his two allies are dead, because the crux for his Berserker form is losing a person he cared about, so I thought this would make more sense
That............is actually pretty smart
I agree with u
Does it do a lot of damage
@@linkisoptrmm he’s a 6 limbed demigod who’s lost all control and is punching you into the ground
@@linkisoptrmm not even Flex Tape will fix what he does to you
I'd say do both low health and teammates KO'd
You can’t have an MvC roster without chun li.
@Strider Xanthos where does he reference it?
@@NealFowler it's heavily implied it'll be in the dlc seasons 3 or later
SkullytheKidd01
Not even implied, he said Chun-Li and Thor would be for the second DLC as that DLC’s theme was Heroes Return
@@conradlecroy5821 thank you, minds a bit blurry on it
@mrcristofer 2013 go watch that video his words not mine
Came back to this banger because of its mad return
Man, thank you so much for acknowledging _Power Stone_ exists! That's a great and seriously underrated little series that I'd love to see return to the limelight.
"marvel is trying to promote her as marvels biggest female character. Leaving her out would be like leaving out wonder women from the next injustice game ."
Doesn't add chun li who is the woman of sf and possibly even capcom 🤦🏾♂️
Yeah she’s pretty much Capcom’s main female character. As much as I don’t care for Captain Marvel, she will most likely be in MvC4 because Disney really wants to shove her down people’s throats.
Yeah it was weird he didn't do that
@@EnderTitan Honestly Captain Marvel is ok, but not super cool, but we need a woman hero so fuck it take this uninteresting and horribly adapted character. Like honestly I would rather have nearly any other female Marvel character.
Ridley Johnstone
Gamora >>>
@@EnderTitan i honestly like gamora
Thor and Chun-Li being left out feels really weird. I understand your logic, but maybe bump the base roster (minus legacy characters) up to 50? Regardless, this sounds like a really hype roster and you’ve earned a new subscriber. On another note wrt this series as a whole: are you only going to tackle pre-existing fighting game franchises, or will you also tackle hypothetical newcomers to the genre? For example, I’ve always wanted to see an Avatar the Last Airbender fighting game, could that (or something similar) be a viable topic?
No way capcom leave out one of their most popular female characters Chun-li is a icon
No Ironman or War Machine neither
STER Gaming idk what you’re talking about. They were on the roster. He specifically had War Machine as an Echo Fighter of Iron Man.
GurrenPrime Woops, wasn't paying attention. Do'h!
STER Gaming no problem.
Doesn't your reason to add Captain Marvel also apply to Chun-Li? She's also THE female Capcom character.
Meat of Justice exactly
Add to that that any comic book fan knows Captain Marvel doesn't really have a following and the movie was poop. And she is not often played in MVCI.
I haven't even seen the video yet and from the first 5 comments i can tell that this is filled with contradictions
@Strider Xanthos Sure, fans that don't buy comics. Sales are a very good indicator of popularity and her books have always sold terribly. Also she's never been high/mid tier in infinite. I play the game regularly and to think she's even close to being in the same tier as say Sigma is fairly silly.
brad jenkins I only ever played captain marvel bc she was similar to Phoenix from umvc3
Mistique’s shapeshifting ability could act like Shang Tsungs from Mortal Kombat
Good idea
I don't think Mystique could do that, but they could have this thing where they enhance characters powers so that she could be more like Rogue
It's hilarious in hindsight that you cut Chun Li to make room for more non-Street Fighter characters, and Added Akira to include more obscure characters, and then they added Akira to Street Fighter V to nullify both XD
5:50 seriously the MVC3 cinematics alone have a bigger budget than all of Infinite put together
Carl Bloke Thank You, Ryota Nitsuma! Where did you go after UMvC3?
Rob Pollock ikr
Facts
That's pretty dumb. Mvc3 doesn't even look that good
If The Thing has Human Torch for one of his Supers, Then Mr. Fantastic (as DLC) should have his wife Invisible Woman in one of his Supers. That way the entire team is here.
I’d actually say it would be cooler if it was the other way around. Johnny and Sue with Ben and Rich supers
Also, mad props for bringing in Nina. Breath of Fire is an underrated franchise that I wish Capcom would do more with.
Seriously. BoF has needed representation in this series since the beginning. And honestly Nina is the better of the two characters... though Katt might have been a cool pick too.
Pivoting the classic hulk into Immortal hulk would be such an amazing idea! He could tear off limbs and attack with them separately, he could summon demons as assists, he could FINALLY switch into bruce banner for some ranged attacks. PLUS any design space thats missing could be filled in by the Thing!
For Squirrel Girl, you could ABSOLUTELY make her "off-panel" dealie work; just give her a super where she tackles you past the edge of the screen, then kick up a weird, cartoony violence cloud from offscreen, then cut/scroll back to her standing atop the opponent's crumpled body.
This is genius
@@scnbadguy5012 *bow*
@@LionelRGuy *clap*
Watching through, enjoying, some good picks. 'New challenger' comes right before an ad for the new Stargirl show. When the ad finished, guess who was on screen?
Star-Lord.
Ngl I rly don't agree with the roster philosophy here. I do want more new characters but I do think there should be a large priority on bringing back beloved characters from 1 and especially 2. The main problem with Infinite was that the majority of the roster was retreads from 3.
I agree, i think that every fighting game should respect His original roster, i mean MK almost always does that, same with KOF
MvC2 i think is the most important game in the series; so of course inspiration should come from them more then the less popular ones. Heck they brought McV2 back for evo
The ideal situation would be an 'Everyone is here' with a handful of new characters. I know it would be crazy but what better to capture the spirit of MvC than a gigantic batshit crazy roster.
@@Mal-go5dl That would be the ideal yeah. Too unrealistic tho
@@grapejuice8595 I mean nobody thought Ultimate could happen but here we are.
Capcoms big 3 are Ryu, Chunli and Moriggan in every crossover
I would love to see Morgan replaced with Demetri and ken replace ryu.
No they wont like marvel either those avengers or x men are the big roster there
And dante
@@funbagshosehound7947 same but 0.0% chance
Akuma not Ryu! I know Akuma wasn’t in MVCI and the reason why? he was to busy in Tekken 7 destroying everyone.
Squirrel Girl's level 3 super could be like the Raging Demon, where she just beats you up offscreen.
That’s actually perfect, not only is it funny, but also just makes sense for her character!
I think seeing Squirrel Girl actually doing a Raging Demon would make at least some people just spontaneously disintegrate.
I think it would be funny if they just gave Squirrel Girl a raging demon super lol
It would be funny
I have been a Black Panther fan since 94 when I discovered him in that Fantastic Four cartoon that was some what connected to the x-men and spider-man shows. I have also been a fan of the vsCapcom series from the start. I was happy when he showed up in Infinite but I was like he should have so much more than just claw based attacks. I was screaming tech, magic, and Dora Milajae glad to see someone else saw this and had the same reaction I did .
I don't agree with Chun-Li's and Thor's exclusion but ultimately changing the roster to 50 characters solves the problem other than that great video
I would like Cyclops to return because he comes after wolverine in relevancy.
Also he's extremely underrated.
Give sum love for Cyclops.
P.d: Optic blast for life.
Cyclops is a dick tho
@@kid_eisenhorn9438 yeah but I like his moves and you cannot say that he is not hella badass.
I mean, you're right
DREAMS DON'T DIE!
He was awesome during the 90s. Then they kept fucking up every single aspect of his character in the comics, movies (if he even was there at all) and games. Now he's a joke.
He had a decent portrait on X-men Evolution (probably because there wasn't that permanent goddamn Cyclops-Jean-Wolverine love triangle that doesn't go anywhere) but he was at his best during the 90s: the animated series, Jim Lee comics run and X-men vs Street Fighter game series.
Bring that Cyclops back!
I love this entire concept and I understand your thought process, but I'm still sad Nemsis and Frank West would be cut, but I could still see them in a Halloween Themed DLC with cool costumes (Maybe A Zombie Frank and a Nemisis skin based on R.E. Village)
Rival Schools, Breath of Fire and Power Stone needs more love. I would love to see Demitri screaming Fire on the screen. Foul-lu and Ryu from Bof. Capcom can use the same method as Phoenix and Phoenix Wright. They can do Ryu from SF and say Ryu the Dragon from Bof or add Nina. We need a way better version of Megaman X as well with more moves
You don’t want to overdue the whole “Phoenix effect” imo gotta be real careful and selective. Don’t want to have 5-15 with some sort of low health power boost
Yes, I want Nina with her offensive magical powers, so I prefer the BOF 2 or 3 versions.
If cyclops ain't in the game I'm gonna die
Soki, Maximo, Samanosuke, Gene...
Sengoku Basara really needs representation in the Vs. series. I would be happy with just Date Masamune in any Vs. game!!!
Ideas for certain left out returning characters:
Rocket Raccoon: Groot now has three levels: Baby, Teen, and Adult. Hyper Combo Ultra Groot
Venom: Knull skin has a alternate Level 3 featuring Knull... or he can be featured as a stage
Gamora: now features Nebula, a fight as one situation. Replaces shadow combination as both fighting at once.
Amateraseau: Nothing really, just a very good dog.
Nemesis: Remake twist
Taskmaster: some more attacks would be nice.
Nova: Summon the entire Nova corps for Level 3
And that's all I got. Looking forward to part 2!!!
It's kinda a bad excuse to deny a character's spot cause they were in infinite. Like Ultron and Sigma and even Jedia. We know they would be returning but like...Every time you mentioned they were in infinite and "no one wants to remember it". To validate your reasons is unfair.
But the list of the new characters had me HYPE AS FUCK...not gonna lie.
Agreed.
I feel like he wasn’t serious about that being the reason why, he probably just wanted to put in other characters more, so he came up with a joke reason, because the video isn’t a review, it’s just entertainment.
But yeah this was a great roster
Daimion
Yes for both
@@rubberduckproductions544 I would agree but he gave no other reasons to give a reason why they should not be in.
Plus those guys had 1 game appearance. But then mentions a power stone character and mentioned a similar mechanic in his moveset. But yeah...
@Rangez 👌 100%
It's going to be a year since this and the channel premiered, Thorgi. Any chance of an Anniversary Look-back to let us know your other ideas? I seriously want to know what you intended for DLC packs and other little bits you couldn't share in PArt 2 because of video length.
Oh, I support that! I'm also really curious about the dlcs. In fact I was so eager to hear his list, that I made my own, hahaha
Perhaps a revised list covering characters that deserve a second chance. The MCU is gearing up for the debut of Mighty Thor/Jane Foster and She-Hulk.
What is Thorgi's real name?
@@mrrunodan8119His first name is Aaron. That's about all he's let known from my understanding.
For the Squirrel Girl special I was thinking maybe something like the raging demon move from Akuma, where the screen goes to black, we hear fighting noises, and then the image comes back with her enemy unexplainably lying on the floor beaten
Who else is here now that Marvel vs Capcom collection has been announced? Raise your hand and like. ✋
In MvC4, it would be so sick if Thanos actually got to use his gauntlet with all of the infinity stones. That would lead to such a cool character design.
Having a level one where he blows up the moon and rains down the fragments would be amazing
That's basically what he did in MvC2. All of his Super and Specials were based off the stone powers.
46:40- I think for Mystique, you could take inspiration from Double, a character from Skullgirls. Double is a shape shifting entity, and each of her moves has her transform into a character from the roster to copy one move of theirs. For example, she copies a move from Filia for her standing light punch, a move from Peacock for her standing medium punch, a move from Cerebella for her standing heavy punch, et cetera.
I know what you mean but I was thinking of Shang Tsung from mk11 where some of his move have him turn into the mk ninjas even some who are in the game so I think Mystique should use move from the X-Men characters even some who are not in the game so yeah
That’s... pretty much exactly what I said she could do.
Yeah, but now you got the copy paste issue he brought up
An hour and a half and you have not MISSED. This is a great potential roster. Exceptional vid man. One of the best gaming vids I've seen.
I like how he puts rules on his dream roster even tho a dream roster is the choices you dream about.
Yeah, that's neat. haha
I got chills when you showed Blade
God s ame
I would love to see a roster where each persons moves /super moves, interact with each other in a cool fusion. For example: Imagine Captain America with Guile and the super move has guile powering up Cap's shield with a Sonic boom somehow
I don't disagree that Disney is pushing Captain Marvel, but honestly no would care if she was excluded.
Rogue will always trump Captain Marvel. Although.... as a level three super, Captain Marvel could prep a super, then Rogue could appear, eat her, and then finish the match!
@@karkosgiehex I think rogue was always a fan favourite she should always take priority when it comes to mvc along with the rest of the x men
Rogue would make more people happy, plus if the whole point was not to remind people of MvC:I, then getting rid of Captain Marvel would be good because she was in the reveal of the game (and she's on the box).
@@darknightspider7495 Also nobody played her, that's a bonus
I would swap out Captain Marvel for Venom.
It's crazy how many of these picks are now in the Community Edition of MvC3, or coming soon to it.
They even used your idea for one of The Thing's supers to call in Johnny!
It's so funny going back to this video after watching future episodes, knowing your stance on DLC for this show completely switching up
This is a great vid, but I think that too many of the supers are “summon goons” attacks where they don’t need it tbh
They summon goons because those goons are a way to include more character and in a crossover game the more character representatives the better
tommy uchiha Tru, but most of the extras mentioned are not super popular, or straight up generic troops.
There are a lot more interesting and dramatic supers, like for Thanos, why tf should the black order show up when The Snap is his most iconic thing?
@@LizardKingRequiem i think it just comes down do u think its better to have one character get represented well or to have as many characters as possible and i think since it is a crossover it should have as many characters as possible
tommy uchiha I can see that for crossovers, u right. I’m just someone who loves seeing flashy and creative attacks in things, so I tend to focus on that a lot. I’ll always prefer alt costumes or skins that rep other chars tbh
Chun-li will come back no matter what.
Well how come she isn’t in street fighter 69
@@linkisoptrmm fake
She have too. She the the the female of RYE, she the literal face of the game
aretmaSu she’s not the female ryu and ryu is the face of the franchise. The reason he said that is bc she’s in every crossover except smash and ken wasn’t even in mvc infinite
@@mosesborras3221 it's a joke
Just for fun I thought I would make my dream version of the roster using the rules you used in the video.
Marvel Returning
Hulk, Spiderman,iron man, Captain America, Wolverine,Cyclops,Storm,Magneto,Black Panther, Deadpool, Dr.Doom, Thanos
Capcom Returning
Zero, Mega man x, Ryu, Chun li, Monster hunter, Dante, Virgil, Amateratsu, Morigan, Jedah, Felicia, Ruby Heart
Marvel New
Blade,Black Bolt, Carnage, Star Lord, NightCrawler, Scarlett Witch, Ms.Marvel, Miles Morales, Human Torch,cloak&dagger, Loki, Doctor Octopus
Capcom New
Leon,Asura, Rashid, Laura, Dr.Wiley, Edward Falcon,Sasquatch,lady, Akira,Taliban, Abigail
Yes bring back amy
Just saying it will be strange to have Carnage and not Venom
@@cadenanderson4178 I don't think we should bring the Taliban into this
Black atom is dc
Black Adam is dc
Just my opinion, but Tessa from Red Earth shold be in the roster. She could be a good replacement to Dr. Strange.
1:00 Thorgi, i love ya man and it is with absolute love that i say...this comment aged like the finest milk you could ever buy and we've never been happier.
True that!
Mystique could have a moveset like Double from Skullgirls, where each one of her attacks are a move from another character.
Pacha Yeah, but the thing with Mystique is that she doesn’t copy powers. She can do wings and claws. But she can’t suddenly fire optic blasts or control metal.
Her rival could be Jill Valentine.
Nooooo. She's not task master
Maybe one of her supers can be like the nightmare region where she transforms into characters that didn't get in the game (Frank West, Chun li, Hsien-ko ETC)
33:26 Hulk: You’re not Falcon! Falcon is Captain-Man’s bird friend, HULK CONFUSED?!
I gonna love to see how Hulk gonna react to newcommers
33:26 Deadpool: hey! a falcon from an under appreciated game in a crossover? Now where have I heard of that before?
@@icydazo6417 alternatively: "Show me your moves! Oh wait, wrong falcon."
@@julzbananz
I got one for him vs. Spider-Man:
"Good! Great! Awesome! Outstanding! AMAZING! Oops, wrong game!"
@@julzbananz so many Captain Falcon references, YES
"lets not put in too many street fighter characters
*puts in 2 sf chars
*puts in 4 dmca characters
Except for the fact he puts 4 sf characters and 3 dmc
@@spider-nerd
Dante, Vergil, Nero, Lady
Pretty sure that's 4 DMC characters
@@tristanthewalrus7496 okay I miss counted but there's still 4 street fighter characters
@@spider-nerd theres 3 sf chars tho, idk who u htink the 4th is
@@Muddy_ Ryu, Juri, Rashid, Ken
Mistique could turn into other unused characters from previous games for some of her moves to showcase her shapeshifting more.
That’s not how her powers work
Decided to make my own little MvC 4 mockup roster using the same number of fighters you did before watching, but decided to include 18 veterans and 6 newcomers for each company. This is the roster I came up with (new characters will be listed in bold)
Marvel: Wolverine, Cyclops, Magneto, Storm, Captain America, Hulk, Spider-Man, Shuma Gorath, Venom, Iron Man, Dr. Doom, Sentinel, Thanos, Thor, Deadpool, Dr. Strange, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, *Daredevil*, *Doc-Ock (The Spiderverse Iteration)*, *Falcon*, *Loki*, *Scarlet Witch* and *Star Lord*
Capcom: Ryu, Chun-Li, Akuma, Morrigan, Strider Hiryu, Captain Commando, Jin Saotome, Mega Man, Tron Bonne, Amingo, Ruby Heart, Jill Valentine, Amaterasu, Dante, Zero, Nemesis, Phoenix Wright, Monster Hunter, *Abyss (the OC final boss of MvC 2 that was never made playable)*, *Asura*, *Jon Talbain*, *Juri*, *Leon Kennedy* and *Nina (Breath of Fire)*
Was surprised to see how much overlap I had with the new characters added in the video but I personally like this roster here
Yes to Edward Falcon, Akira, and Asura on the Capcom side. Blade, Nightcrawler, and Squirrel girl!
I'm a huge Power Stone fan so thank you for mentioning that series!
What about for crossover Marvel vs Capcom 4 band new character is capcom team Sakura Karin Batsu phoenix wright miles edgeworth franziska von karma and team marvel spider-gwen black cat luke cage spiderman venom
and silver sable here we go 13 character DLC pack best of marvel vs. capcom 4 series hope enjoy it peace out.
Using this format, here's my roster:
Marvel:
Iron Man
Captain America
Spider-Man
Hulk
Wolverine
Thanos
Deadpool
Magneto
Venom
Dr. Doom
Captain Marvel
Black Panther
Moon Knight
Daredevil
Loki
Scarlet Witch
Ms. Marvel
Star-Lord
Nightcrawler
The Fantastic Four
Blade
Green Goblin
Black Bolt
Ant-Man
CAPCOM:
Ryu
Chun-Li
Mega Man
Dante
Monster Hunter
Amaterasu
Morrigan
Zero
Strider Hiryu
Wesker
Phoenix Wright
Haggar
Date Masamune
Asura
Nero
Juri
Bass.EXE
Nina (Breath of Fire 3)
Gene
Kaijin no Soki
Edward Falcon
Jon Talbain
Gill
Saki Omokane
FINALLY, SOMEONE WHO APPRECIATES DATE MASAMUNE! Sub boss characters such as Fin Fang Foom and Rathalos would be boss!!!!!!!
I think Leon should also appear in the next MVC game.
I like the inclusion of all 4 Fantastic 4 most likely working similar to Pokémon trainer
Throw in Maximo and the Capcom roster is good
Excelente line up
Happy Two Year Anniversary, Thorgi! Still hoping if there's any chance of an Anniversary Look-back to let us know your other ideas. You did such a good job, that I *still* want to know what you intended for DLC packs and other little bits you couldn't share in Part 2 because of video length.
59:50 Dude! She beats the crap out of other characters off screen. Well, how about her lvl3 being a dash then a grab, screen goes black and then her- wait a second, that's the Raging Demon from Akuma. Would that be possible?
BoF Nina could have a moveset kinda similar to that of Android 18/17 in Dragon ball fighterZ or Rocky/Groot in MvCI. Then people would see Ryu showing up more often, not only during a super.
Also, they could make Mahvel1 Ryu. He'd spend a bar to get to use Ken's or Akuma's moves during the match. That way you would have an extra Legacy fighter spot available. OR THEY COULD JUST MAKE RYU INTO A GOOD CHARACTER, WHICH DOESN'T HAPPEN SINCE MARVEL1 (alright he was good in Tatsunoko vs Capcom, but still...) denjin hadouken, power of nothingness, five him something!! He was the only SF character that was in a pro player's team in tournaments. Just saying
I absolutely loved your roster, man.
Magik, Princess Devilot, Nero, Starlord, Rashid, Scarlet Witch, Falcon, The Thing!... I would love to see those characters in a future installment of Marvel.
Honestly, even after seeing Part 2, my main suggestion is to add Chun-Li as the last Capcom Character for the Base Roster, while for Thor I can ironically see him “replaced” with Jane Seymour whom picked Mjolnir akin to the Comics and the Love and Thunder Movie, with her being his Legacy Fighter as well as a sort of Test Character per say to see what can be tweaked from Thor’s moveset for his eventual return in DLC, with her being faster but not as strong.
honestly i had an idea for where Nero's level 3 would trigger by knocking the opponent unconscious, followed by calling Nico at a phonebooth. then as Nico was driving to Nero's location, he would toss the unconscious opponent into where Nico was heading, having her run the opponent over with the van.
Let us know when you get hired to be a creative director for the next marvel vs capcom game because you totally should be.
And he should also be the voice actor for the announcer.
Hmm. I don’t know. This guy is cutting out a lot of important characters. His list might not be valid.
“Leon will call Mike the helicopter support!”
On second thought, this man is genius! Let this be real!
EDIT: dang though, I really wanted Zach & Wiki.
as someone who's never played MvC, the wildest part of this video to me was seeing which characters had never been in the games. like, Leon S. Kennedy?! Green Goblin?! _Squirrel Girl?!?!_
Due to current events, there is now a roughly around 10 percent chance of MvC4(or whatever MvC sequel) could happen
Intro 3:37
Returning Characters 7:53
Capcom
23:11 Akira Kazama
26:45 Asura
31:14 Donovan
33:22 Edward Falcon
38:10 Juri Han
40:26 Lady
43:39 Leon Kennedy
48:23 Lord Raptor
51:32 Nero
54:34 Nina
1:00:52 Princess Devilot
1:05:54 Rashid
1:14:12 Ken Masters
1:17:00 Lilith
1:18:22 Claire Redfield
1:20:03 Apollo Justice
Marvel
25:24 Blade
29:53 DareDevil
32:11 Green Goblin
36:16 Loki
39:01 Magik
42:01 Ms. Marvel
46:24 Mystique
50:07 Nightcrawler
52:55 Scarlet Witch
58:11 Squirrel Girl
1:03:44 Star Lord
1:07:04 The Thing
1:15:35 Miles Morales
1:17:31 War Machine
1:09:13 Gwenpool
1:21:04 Abomination
Thank you for being an MvC fan who actually reads comics. This list was so great! I really look forward to part 2.
Here's an Idea: when The Thing uses the super with Johnny, Ben Grimm could say something like "Watch it, Matchstick!" as The Human Torch shoots fire across the field.
So Asura is basically mvc version of kratos from mk9 mixed with spiral I dig it
"You may call this a ring but I call it a cout CUS IM BALLIN"
-lord Raptor "probably"
loved it!!! One of my favorite fan rosters despite the loss of some favs. Would love to see you tackle an Injustice 3 roster
Wow, man! That is just awesome! I'd love to see a MvC4 with your roster for sure!
Cyclops, cable, Phoenix? 😭😭
I Think marvel ruin cyclops for everything thing in general smh.
Phoenix never again. EVER!
@@isaiahtr "everything thing"
Did anyone see my list of Capcom Characters
DLC
Actually I think for Hulk more simpler would be red hulk some fire damage but make him slower and super were he uses weapons meant to kill or damage big green giant.
Roster Timestamps
Capcom Veterans
7:53 Ryu (Street Fighter)
8:05 Morrigan (Darkstalkers)
8:18 Zero (Mega Man)
8:39 Strider Hiryu (Strider Hiryu)
8:47 Wesker (Resident Evil)
9:20 Tron Bonne (Mega Man)
9:40 Phoenix Wright (Ace Attorney)
10:03 Dante (Devil May Cry)
10:42 Vergil (Devil May Cry)
10:57 Monster Hunter (Monster Hunter)
11:43 Captain Commando (Captain Commando)
12:28 Mega Man (Mega Man)
Marvel Veterans
14:10 Captain America, Spider-Man, Iron Man, Hulk
14:56 Wolverine
15:06 Deadpool
15:12 Storm
15:21 Magneto
15:40 Doctor Doom
15:54 Captain Marvel
16:11 Thanos
17:01 Black Panther
Notable Cuts
20:10 Thor
20:35 Chun-Li (Street Fighter)
21:08 Ultron, Sigma
21:29 Jedah (Darkstalkers)
21:45 Dormammu, Spencer (Bionic Commando)
New Characters
23:18 Akira Kazama (Rival Schools)
25:24 Blade
26:44 Asura (Asura's Wrath)
29:53 Daredevil
31:13 Donovan (Darkstalkers)
32:10 Green Goblin
33:21 Edward Falcon (Power Stone)
36:15 Loki
38:10 Juri (Street Fighter)
39:01 Magik
40:25 Lady (Devil May Cry)
42:00 Ms. Marvel
43:38 Leon Kennedy (Resident Evil)
46:23 Mystique
48:23 Lord Raptor (Darkstalkers)
50:06 Nightcrawler
51:31 Nero (Devil May Cry)
52:55 Scarlet Witch
54:33 Nina (Breath of Fire)
58:10 Squirrel Girl
1:00:52 Princess Devilot (Cyberbots Full Metal Madness)
1:03:42 Star Lord
1:04:51 Rashid (Street Fighter)
1:06:30 Samanosuke (Onimusha)
*Honorable Mention*
1:07:03 The Thing
Legacy Fighters
1:14:11 Ken (Street Fighter)
1:15:32 Miles Morales
1:16:15 Lilith (Darkstalkers)
1:17:29 War Machine
1:18:22 Claire Redfield (Resident Evil)
1:19:09 Gwenpool
1:20:01 Apollo Justice (Ace Attorney)
1:21:00 Abomination
Also tigra as a legacy fighter for Felicia
I was thinking he was gonna say 50 characters, He said 48, I didn’t expect that.
Same. But maybe it's because ultimate marvel vs capcom 3 has 48 characters (i think)
IT WAS THE SPANISH INQUISITION!
@@stephenquinn7931 I see what you did there. Nice
cyclops cable and Ken need to be in the game
Well he put Ken in as a Legacy Fighter for Ryu so you got one right but I don't know what my roster would look like
Fou-Lu from Breath of Fire 4. He's an evil dragon god who talks like old school Thor
Here, I have a better idea. It's a craaazy stretch but most people can agree:
Give it the *Ultimate* treatment. Bring everyone back, and give us more characters and some more as DLC. So like a bonus 4/8 characters from each side as new additions, and then an extra 5/6 characters from each side as DLC later.
I mean, have you seen Naruto Shippuden Ultimate Ninja Storm 4? Storm 1 and 2 had about 20 characters. 3 cranked that shit up to about 60/70, and then 4 dropped a fat boost and brought it up to like 90/100 and then DLC was brought on the table!
This guy's roster, yeah I can see some points, but you left out some idols, some real diamonds in the rough and even *THE FACES OF CAPCOM AND MARVEL.*
Also, some funny "moments" (which I will keep adding):
"I had to cut Chun Li, she's been in nearly all of these, but Ryu stays" lmao, so did Ryu but you don't cut him.
"I weighed *all* their pros and cons. The ones I picked were just *better choices"* So, you picked some from Capcom, some from Marvel, and yet, despite fandom, actual popularity, and postering, you chose *your own decisions.*
"We're going alphabetical here" Akira, Blade, Asura, Daredevil, Donovan, Green Goblin, Edward Falcon... Yeah, *alphabetical,* sure
"I'm bringing in Spiderman's biggest enemy, Green Goblin, not Venom" Sure, I get it that Green Goblin is *one* of Spiderman's biggest enemies, but so is Doctor Octopus, Electro, Rhino, Shocker, Mysterio, Black Cat etc
"Power Stone was a Capcom fighting game where you collect several multicoloured gems where you can get amazing powers" Yeah, literally Thanos and the Infinity stone's, but you cut him
"Out of all the important and booming Marvel characters, I'm suprised Ms Marvel didn't get included!" Yet, there's more important marvel characters like Silver Surfer, Ant Man or White Tiger that never popped up
"Lord Raptor is an Aussie Rock star" Me, casually looking at the United Kingdom flag on his leg: *Interesting*
"In infinite, they dropped the females to not even 10% of the roster" I'm sure that 4/30 is more than 10% chief. 3/30 is 10% because if you times 3 by 10 it becomes 30, making 3 = 10% of the roster. *I see someone didn't do math class*
"Rashid wasn't just one of the biggest stars, but he has a big fan base" There's SO MANY characters with a bigger fanbase than Rashid! You have Cammy, Guile, goddamn Dahlsim, Sagar and Zangief! There's even newer (To my knowledge) characters like Cody, Zeku, Necalli, Akuma that have a bigger fanbase, you can even bring Blanka in and people will go *Oh yeah I remember him* not Rashid when it's like *Oh yeah, that guy*
"I picked The Thing, it was hard to pick out of all the other members" The Thing is like Hulk, both involve fighting, brawling and throwing literal objects. Mr Fantastic would be a good pick due to his distance covering like Dhalsim. Sue Storm for invisibility and force moves, including an air jump like Dante. Human torch, yeah he's a difficult one because we had at least a couple of fire based characters like Dormamu and Nova so I wouldn't pick Johnny honestly.
"You would be crazy if you wanted anything more from this game" Well yes, a choice that isn't limited to *your own views and opinions* as well as this, you chose so many unknowns instead of fan favourites .
Look, I love this idea, I really do. I'm sorry for technically dropping so much pain and shit like a hater, but I'm just comparing factors and bias.
If we do get a Capcom vs Marvel 4, I really hope Ruby Heart comes back. She's so unique in design, and I always wished Capcom created a series just for her. But I know that will never ever happen.
Raise the roster limit to 52, add Chun-Li; Sentienl, Ruby Heart, and Rocket Raccoon. (Or just any returning characters.)
Sentinel should NEVER come back EVEEEER again. Lamest and most broken character ever.
@@RevengerPhoenix have you ever heard of nerfing/reworking characters?
@@hasthehighground8560 Aside from gameplay, you'd rather have lame sentinel, instead of Gambit, Cyclops, Rogue, Iceman, Mister Sinister, Sabretooh, and countless other X-men characters? I stand by my original statement....LAMEST and most broken character ever.
Love the video! I liked the new additions, but there were definitely some head scratchers. Also some cutbacks felt unnecessary. You even said, MvC has a large roster to pull from, so I don't think 24 returning was enough.
In my opinion, I think it should've been 32 returning veterans and 16 newcomers.
He also said he wanted to give MvC4 that new car smell. And looking back at MvC3, this roster has shades of that.
War Machine’s Lvl 3 super should be him dropping a tank on the opponent and saying, “Boom! You looking for this?”
Dante's Inferno awesome
I’m pressed there’s no chun, but I may have fallen in love with this list when you stuck Murdock and the Thing in there. My life would be complete
With the recent collection announcement, IF we ever do get another Marvel vs Capcom, Kamala Kahn, Star Lord and Blade are obvious candidates for newcomers. I predict 40 characters for base roster
Great concept of a roster you came up with, man. We’d love to see Miles and Leon get their times to shine in this series too :)
With a series like this, we’d love to see you make a concept of a roster for a theoretically new Capcom vs. SNK game for future videos; even though we love Capcom vs SNK 2, what we love to see in the new installment is more variety in the roster than having too much Street Fighter and King of Fighters characters.
Because I was spoiled by MvC1, CvS1 roster felt rather disappointing that it shouldn’t even be called Capcom vs SNK at the time; I mean, where’s Mega Man? Where’s Strider Hiryu? Where anyone else within the Capcom library of games than just Street Fighter? Well they have Morrigan in the home console version, but that’s about it.
CvS2’s roster maybe better, but it still feels like it needs to be more versatile.
And now that we have more ton of games on both company, this is a good opportunity to have a brand new installment of Capcom vs SNK to go all out with the roster than restrict itself with 1-5 series each.
Don’t you agree? :D
Ryu vs Kyo
Ken vs Terry
Chun-Li vs Mai
Haggar vs Goro Daimon
Dante vs Haohmaru
Strider Hiryu vs Hanzo (World Heroes)
Nina vs Hibiki Takane
Mega Man vs Marco Rossi
Totally agree on CvS. Games were great but the rosters were really disappointing
1:06:35 If you really want an Onimusha character in the game, there’s always Soki from Dawn of Dreams. He wasn’t modeled after any real life person (that I know of) which is how he got into Tatsunoko vs. Capcom.
I honestly think Chun-Li and Thor need to be here in place of other characters, but I really don't know who. In my opinion, we should remove one of the new characters from each side and put back those two, as they're just too big of characters to remove in my opinion
*_HALF THIS CAST NEEDS TO BE BRAND NEW._*
it would be a funny gag to have Thanos scared of squirrel girl but it's never explained.
0:55
Nintendo Direct June 18th, 2024: and I took that Personally
Nice vid. I always thought Daredevil, one of my favorite superheroes, would be perfect for a fighting game. But also, having Loki without Thor would be like having Venom without Spiderman or Magneto without any of the X-men.
"I guess that they will use this opportunity to introduce Snowflake and Safespace to the Marvel vs Capcom franchise" Said no one ever.
Their level 3 super is cancelling you on Twitter.
Id be down for more joke characters
Imagine Squirrel Girl in mvc4
No Jin?
@Ryan Stewart dude frick no
Great video! I made my own a little while ago with 60 characters, 20 returning and 10 newcomers on each side
Marvel Returning:
Iron Man, Spider-Man, Hulk, Dr. Doom, Wolverine, Magneto, Cable, Storm, Sentinel, Cpt. America, Cyclops, Thanos, Deadpool, Ghost Rider, Gambit, Thor, Venom, Taskmaster, Psylocke, Shuma-Gorath
Marvel Newcomers:
Green Goblin, Carnage, Star Lord, Mr. Fantastic, Thing, Spider-Ham, Loki, Punisher, Daredevil, Quicksilver
Capcom Returning:
Ryu, Ken, Akuma, Chun-Li, Dante, Vergil, Zero, Sigma, Mega Man or X, Morrigan, Amingo, Ruby Heart, Jill, Nemesis, Wesker, Strider Hiryu, Tron Bonne, Phoenix Wright, Cpt. Commando, Haggar
Capcom Newcomers:
Leon Kennedy, Asura, Nero, V, Cody, G, Tessa, Proto Man, Pyron, Edward Falcon
Psylocke over Captain Marvel, and also Quicksilver as a newcomer. Let me tell you bruh, you got some good taste!
Don't forget my boy viewtiful joe!
@@blueguy15 Truuuuuuth
@@raymanfan9265 Yessir! I wanted to make sure at least most of the original cast for MSH was on the roster, only ones I excluded were Juggs and Blackheart
@@austinfranks248
Yeah dude!!! I even notice the shuma-gorath until now, this is the kind of roster that should be in mind!
46:46 X-MEN EVOLUTION!!!!!
That show is so good and underated!
Asura vs. The Hulk. Oh god it'd be so good.
Give me Gene from God Hand and they can put Howard the Duck for all I care.