Been riding for about 23 years, owned 40+ bikes, ridden probably around 500-1000 bikes, was a professional test-driver and development engineer for the car/motorcycle industrie, and was a motocrosser growing up. And i own a World Raid. Probably the best bike ive ever ridden. Def the best bike ive ever owned. And that coming from a Honda fan. I love this bike so much that i could buy a second one, just like that, for no better reason than just having two of them.
@@dIsAstErTR for starters, ive always wished Honda would make a "new version" of the old 750 Africa Twin from the 90s, because to me that is easily one of the best bikes ever made. I was hoping the new Transalp would be that bike, but unfortunately it is far from it. Enters the WR. In summary, one could say the WR is a "new age" Africa Twin 750: both have about 230mm fully adjustable suspensions, both weight around 220kg, both have 23L in the tank, both make about 70ish HP, both twin cylinders, both around 700ish cc, very similar geometry, known for their reliability, etc, etc, etc. Its almost like Yamaha set themselves to re-build the old 750AT with the WR. The only thing the T7 adds to the mix, are the modern things one wishes to have: USD fork, steering damper, ABS and fuel injection. And thats it. Nothing more. It still rocks a cable throttle and cable clutch and everything is purely mechanical on this bike. No riding modes, no ride-by-wire, no auto blipper, no TC, no stability programm, no lean-angle-IMUs, no fancy adjustable cornering-headlights, no bs. Add the fact that the CP2 engine is one of the smoothest, most linear and usable engines ever made, the suspension geometrie and setup works on and offroad at the same level as the very best bikes out there, it is a lot more comfortable than it looks, the wind/weather protection from the screen but also to the lower body is excellent due to the wide tanks, even though it is heavier on paper than the regular T7, it "feels" lighter since the tanks are mounted about 20cm (!) lower into the chassis, the gearbox ratios are absolutely perfect, i easily manage to squeeze 600+ km out of one fill up, this bike is very economical, it is easy to service, easy to maintain, uses no special tools anywhere, spare parts and aftermarket parts are widely available, no electronics to go wrong, sounds great and looks killer. Only real negative is the price and taking a passenger also isnt the best. It is not a cheap bike nor is it very comfortable for 2-up operation. But, i could go on about this bike for hours...i absolutely adore it. If i could i would buy a second one
@@lequan8766 ive never owned the AT, but ridden it a lot. And yeah sure i recommend it. The AT1100 is pretty much a "bigger T7". Not as capable offroad due to its weight, ergonomics and suspension, but way more capable for onroad/long travels and specially if you have a passenger. The T7 isnt the most passenger friendly bike in the world
I traded my 2018 tracer 7 for a world raid and I put £4500 worth of extras on it out of the box so it cost me £16.500 but a Dakar style bike has always been my dream so I went all in. I had everything put on it and I have no intention of going off road as my left hand is plated due to past motorcycle injuries. But what a beautiful ride the world raid is. I'm 58 and got my dream bike. So yea £16500 well spent. Although my wife moaned a bit.
@@RoadsideWanderer akropvik exhaust. Heated grips. Full hard luggage, fog lights. I mainly use it for work and I'm out early. It's usually dark and cold.
I traded my R1200GSA for a T7 World Raid last year. Compared it to the Austrians, Italians, Brits and Swedes. Main things that swayed me over were the fuel range (because of the very low consumption plus large tank), reliability and looks. I was torn at first with the Norden 901 Expedition, but after making a test ride it just felt tiny for my 1.90 m / 6'3" length. I had to sit partly on the rear seat to be comfy. Also liked the Tiger 900 RP and all its features, but the price was just too much (5000 euros more) and I had a sense it was too much street orientated. The Tuareg was and still is a lot less popular, so besides my trauma with Italian reliability in the past, there is not a lof of aftermarket stuff to find for it in contrast to the tons of stuff available for the T7. I've customised it to my likings to get it to look more mean, be lighter and have more features. Like an aftermarket quickshifter, Kaoko throttle lock, chain oiler etc. Loving it so far.
I love all motorcycle riders!!! You guys are family! Been riding since i was 8 years old..dirtbikes.till i got my license at 18 and im now 40 still riding strong with multiple motorcycles now.. love all riders.!
Brought a 2024 Standard Tenere700, my local Yamaha dealership had an offer on one brand new, 0 miles, it had just been registered to the shop first so techically im the second owner but was reduced to £8,100.00!!! Snapped it off them and it has been brilliant. Modded it myself with AS crash bars, rear rack along with barkbusters, GB Racing engine protection, AXP sump gaurd and AX41 tyres and shes amazing off road. I have a friend who brought the world raid and it just looks to big and wide to be comforatable throwing it around off road. The standard 700 in my opinion is the one to have and spend the spare money on making it your own.
When you visit the USA page for Yamaha Motorsports, there is only the T7 available in two colors (blue and gray). Apparently the other models are not for the USA market.
Yeah, here in North America we are only given one model option. I was hoping we might get more when I saw Austraila get the WR model, but no... no such luck.
Great summary...how about world raid GYTR? For those without a money limits. Personally I'd go for standard model and try to save money for shock, fork and steering damper.
Traded my 1290 Super Adventure for an World Rallye....Back to the roots. I won't ever use the better offroad capabilities compared to a "standard" tenere, but the World Rallye is so beautiful and they made such a great quality of finish and painting. Love it already after one weekend. I trust in her reliability too, in Germany you can get three additional years of warranty for about 300 Euro - this only works if the bike IS reliable.
Great review of them all! There's a leftover new 2023 World Raid for 1000 euros off to clear out the showroom. It's the last one. Just might get it this week. It's a beauty.
There's no reason not to have a cruise control if you have ride-by-wire throttle. Absolutely no excuse not to have it in today's bikes. It would cost 17 bucks in parts and just a few lines of code in the ECU to have that and they could charge 50 bucks more for the bike.
I bought the 22 model because of its simplicity. Plenty enough aftermarket gear to make it suit my needs. Lets face it, modern tech sucks and takes away the feeling of riding at least for me but each to their own. As someone who owns 15 motorcycles currently of different types and styles I ask myself sometimes if I could have one bike what would it be. I can never answer it but when I ride the T7 its definatly up there in that moment 😆
i think i would choose the extreme. i love the looks and i think for a heavier/taller rider, who i am, it would be the best choice with the upgraded suspension, seat height and ground clearence
World Rally may be list price top of the range, but the APR of 4.9% currently compared to 9.9% on some of the other bikes in the range is a HUGE benefit, bring the cost down hugely of ownership. Kerrching, there goes the sound of the till with my deposit!
My dream Yamaha would be a special build with just the GYTR rally fuel tanks and the performance and handling kits and no fairing, just an enduro front light. Kind of old school dakar style. Just have to win the lottery, i have a good feeling for tonights draw!
Bruh You think you got it bad? I'm trying to get it 2024 Africa twin. I think I would have better luck walking into a dealership and asking for a fucking unicorn at this point.
Well Yamaha hasn't brought the Tenere to india at all. Yamaha and KTM have been weird about bringing their advs to india. Ktm sells their pseudo adv 390 though. Bmw, Ducati, triumph, Honda, Suzuki, kawasaki, Harley Davidson all offer almost their entire range of accessories here but Yamaha and ktm won't. And Yamaha india is content with rehashing 150cc motorcycles. Just utterly strange.
In America, we only het the one base model. Can't even get the parts to convert the base to an Extreme version sent to the dealer to install. It is not jist a suspension upgrade, they told me...I called Yamaha USA a couple of days ago and talked to a rep... I am interested in the World Raid; but, the only option would be to purchase a bike from a dealer overseas (not sure how tough that would be) and then, go through an Import/export company and also a kot of red-tape and fees.... Bummer.
In 2024 I'm not pulling the wheel and tire off a 200kg bike to patch a tube. It's not a 100kg dirt bike it's an adventure bike eeerrrghh Yamaha why? and cruise control please ! I have a 2017 Tenere 1200 with heated grips, cruise control and tubeless tires, all standard for next to nothing.It's a fat 260kg adventure bike, but it knows it's not a dirt bike.
Great review all around but the last comment for the world rally price is totally inaccurate. The bikes you mention are a lot more expensive, at least here in Greece.
Bit of inconsistency in the narrative about the prices. While few hundreds jump is flagged as signficant for the rally version you suggest the almost 1,5k jump to Triumph Tiger 900 rally pro is almost in range of the world rally. I mean come on.
I bought a GS 12 months ago and she's too big and heavy for me to handle off road without more training. Should have gone for one of these or even something smaller like a Husky 701/KTM690 to get my feet dirty. If I had the option, I'd probably grab the base model and kit it out as I needed too.
You will quickly realize, nothing can replace training. If you get the lighter bike you may get away with wrong body position, but you will never be really happy if you don't learn how to do it the right way. And a GS is really not too bad for most off roading. despite the weight and the 19" wheel
The T7 could have been much better if... Yamaha converted the engine to dry sump, flat bottom. That would lower the COG significantly. Like Aprilia did with their 660. Or KTM flat bottom 790/890. Yamaha engineers seem to be lazy 😅 The laziness also showed with the first generation where the ABS could not be switched of only at the rear. If they had designed the bike properly I would own one. Now I have to stick to the KTM 890 Adv R. Great bike. The worst customer care 😠
I would go for the World Raid. I tried the T7 standard and loved it, it is really playful. Unfortunately, couldn't try the WR as there is none on test in Switzerland, at least in my area. The downsize is on highways, and as I do quite a lot I need power. For now, I keep my KTM 1290 R for road and offroad and time will tell
The honest truth is that if you really wanna focus on offroad and you are just a beginner, then a dual sport is more than enough. The power alone and the weight would be too much for a offroad beginner.
Exactly. I’m willing even buy a used one with already plate eliminator , aftermarket high exhaust and heating grips 😅 the best way to save money when a previous owner will put it for you
I might be doing my maths wrong but, the extreme being 910mm is still 3 inches shorter than my ktm 500. Which isn't even that tall. Does that mean all T7s are short?
I have ordered the Extreme to replace my CRF300 and Triumph 1200XE as I'm riding more ATC now but still wanted the ablity to ride distance on road and get off road. The only annoying part is Yamaha dont fit at least proper 50/50 tyres as standard which means I have to spend more money, the Extreme should come with them as standard.
Which should u buy and news flash this just in the kove 800x will be available and wow its better than the t7 in almost every dimension and my goodness will you look at that price 😳😲🤯
Yeah t7 completely doesn't make sense in current market with this pricing. Boomers who curse at electronics are still getting them though , so looks like Yamaha did found it's niche 😂 It's ridiculous how much tuareg is better yet at same price as base t7. Here in poland tuareg is even cheaper . I'm waiting for kove fuck obsolete brands
@@Angry-Lynx seems like this kove is gonna make the t660 obsolete as well, no? As well as the transalp, base 790/890 adv, cf450, himalayan… most ‘middleweight’ and many ‘lightweight’ adv bikes seem to have just been disrupted big time.
@@Weltbummler23 I don't think it'll make Tuareg obsolete, I can still think at least few things to take it over Kove - with obviously cruise control being the main thing. BUT! It'll for sure be it's direct and probably main competition and steal some sales from Aprilia which isn't doing too hot with Tuareg already. One thing I'm absolutely sure is that Kove new unicorn proposal is extremely good news for adv market and competition. Let's just hope they can last those next few years which will be challenging for them but if they manage I'm sure we'll see amazing things on adv market, including much more polished 800x with CC :)
@@Angry-Lynx a couple months back they announced the 800x will have cruise control. Also some european expats in china have posted that its also got very low vibrations, about as low as the t660… kove’s 450 does not have cruise, perhaps you are thinking of that one? On paper the kove 800x seems to have improved on the t660 in pretty much every spec 🤷♂️
@@dirtydog1114 I'll try to do my best, but...money and the ring are not supportive in my mission to make the statistical turnaround from HD to Adventure Bikes...
It's not designed to be used on long straight roads where Cruise control would be useful, most of the rides I do I'd never get the chance to use cruise control because the roads are winding , gravel etc even on main roads you get stuck behind traffic where CC is no use unless it's adaptive .
@@yuriabmxr not really, I just think that if you are doing a lot of straight long roads then there are better options than the T7. In New Zealand we are constantly on and off the throttle even on main roads sure to traffic and corners so I'd never get to use CC anyway. Remember they were designed as a simple reliable bike built to a budget, that's why they sell like hotcakes
@@silverdale3207 cc is useful everywhere unless you live directly on a trail. I use it on my commute every day and i find use any highways. The only reason the t7 doesn't have cc because it doesn't have drive by wire throttle. If the cp2 was dbw, it would have cc and add $0 to the price or complexity. Also, in the US, if your singletrack is an hour away, that is considered very close. It's a big place...
Does anyone know if Yamaha is going to release a 2025 Tenere 900? I think that's what I want. I've seen two videos made from AI which mean nothing to me. I need MotoBob and other credible sources to give me a yes or a no, so I can save my dough. Thanks.
They knew EXACTLY what they are doing releasing shitty base t7, then waiting few years. Its called upselling and fuck them for that with huge F. And even with all those new versions u still don't get basic current era shit like tubless and cruise control... Its ridiculous
The explorer is a miss. It should have just been a low version(susp+l.seat) and a lower price. That would see them grab the market of the new 450 approachable ADV's with little to no effort. This way no real reason to get it. The rest look as good as they have from the start
Been riding for about 23 years, owned 40+ bikes, ridden probably around 500-1000 bikes, was a professional test-driver and development engineer for the car/motorcycle industrie, and was a motocrosser growing up. And i own a World Raid. Probably the best bike ive ever ridden. Def the best bike ive ever owned. And that coming from a Honda fan. I love this bike so much that i could buy a second one, just like that, for no better reason than just having two of them.
List 5 things why it's the best?
@@dIsAstErTR for starters, ive always wished Honda would make a "new version" of the old 750 Africa Twin from the 90s, because to me that is easily one of the best bikes ever made. I was hoping the new Transalp would be that bike, but unfortunately it is far from it. Enters the WR. In summary, one could say the WR is a "new age" Africa Twin 750: both have about 230mm fully adjustable suspensions, both weight around 220kg, both have 23L in the tank, both make about 70ish HP, both twin cylinders, both around 700ish cc, very similar geometry, known for their reliability, etc, etc, etc. Its almost like Yamaha set themselves to re-build the old 750AT with the WR. The only thing the T7 adds to the mix, are the modern things one wishes to have: USD fork, steering damper, ABS and fuel injection. And thats it. Nothing more. It still rocks a cable throttle and cable clutch and everything is purely mechanical on this bike. No riding modes, no ride-by-wire, no auto blipper, no TC, no stability programm, no lean-angle-IMUs, no fancy adjustable cornering-headlights, no bs. Add the fact that the CP2 engine is one of the smoothest, most linear and usable engines ever made, the suspension geometrie and setup works on and offroad at the same level as the very best bikes out there, it is a lot more comfortable than it looks, the wind/weather protection from the screen but also to the lower body is excellent due to the wide tanks, even though it is heavier on paper than the regular T7, it "feels" lighter since the tanks are mounted about 20cm (!) lower into the chassis, the gearbox ratios are absolutely perfect, i easily manage to squeeze 600+ km out of one fill up, this bike is very economical, it is easy to service, easy to maintain, uses no special tools anywhere, spare parts and aftermarket parts are widely available, no electronics to go wrong, sounds great and looks killer. Only real negative is the price and taking a passenger also isnt the best. It is not a cheap bike nor is it very comfortable for 2-up operation. But, i could go on about this bike for hours...i absolutely adore it. If i could i would buy a second one
@@Driftuner do you recommend africa twin 1100l base , Im planing step up from cb500X to Africa or tenere
@@lequan8766 ive never owned the AT, but ridden it a lot. And yeah sure i recommend it. The AT1100 is pretty much a "bigger T7". Not as capable offroad due to its weight, ergonomics and suspension, but way more capable for onroad/long travels and specially if you have a passenger. The T7 isnt the most passenger friendly bike in the world
@@Driftuner so a Africa for touring and trail riding and a MX for hardcore offroad issues better rights 😂
I traded my 2018 tracer 7 for a world raid and I put £4500 worth of extras on it out of the box so it cost me £16.500 but a Dakar style bike has always been my dream so I went all in. I had everything put on it and I have no intention of going off road as my left hand is plated due to past motorcycle injuries. But what a beautiful ride the world raid is. I'm 58 and got my dream bike. So yea £16500 well spent. Although my wife moaned a bit.
Thank you for your comment: it PERFECTLY represents a typical buyer of these Tenere 700's. Ride safe!
If you don't take it offroad, what were the 4500 of extras for?
@@RoadsideWanderer akropvik exhaust. Heated grips. Full hard luggage, fog lights. I mainly use it for work and I'm out early. It's usually dark and cold.
@@Rex_Payne I thought those were the GS riders usually.
@@nightterror5131, it's Akrapovič! Also, google how to pronounce it properly - it's not the way you think.
As someone in the US my choice is either a blue or black.
I have just bought 1992 Transalp as my first bike at age 42😂 but the T7 extreme is a tempting piece. Will see where the road takes me.
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The Extreme would be my choice. Love the looks
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I traded my R1200GSA for a T7 World Raid last year. Compared it to the Austrians, Italians, Brits and Swedes. Main things that swayed me over were the fuel range (because of the very low consumption plus large tank), reliability and looks. I was torn at first with the Norden 901 Expedition, but after making a test ride it just felt tiny for my 1.90 m / 6'3" length. I had to sit partly on the rear seat to be comfy. Also liked the Tiger 900 RP and all its features, but the price was just too much (5000 euros more) and I had a sense it was too much street orientated. The Tuareg was and still is a lot less popular, so besides my trauma with Italian reliability in the past, there is not a lof of aftermarket stuff to find for it in contrast to the tons of stuff available for the T7. I've customised it to my likings to get it to look more mean, be lighter and have more features. Like an aftermarket quickshifter, Kaoko throttle lock, chain oiler etc. Loving it so far.
What did you do to save weight?
I love all motorcycle riders!!! You guys are family! Been riding since i was 8 years old..dirtbikes.till i got my license at 18 and im now 40 still riding strong with multiple motorcycles now.. love all riders.!
Brought a 2024 Standard Tenere700, my local Yamaha dealership had an offer on one brand new, 0 miles, it had just been registered to the shop first so techically im the second owner but was reduced to £8,100.00!!! Snapped it off them and it has been brilliant. Modded it myself with AS crash bars, rear rack along with barkbusters, GB Racing engine protection, AXP sump gaurd and AX41 tyres and shes amazing off road. I have a friend who brought the world raid and it just looks to big and wide to be comforatable throwing it around off road. The standard 700 in my opinion is the one to have and spend the spare money on making it your own.
H8 2 b a tw@. Bought*
When you visit the USA page for Yamaha Motorsports, there is only the T7 available in two colors (blue and gray). Apparently the other models are not for the USA market.
Yeah, here in North America we are only given one model option. I was hoping we might get more when I saw Austraila get the WR model, but no... no such luck.
Now that I've bought the standard model, they will probably start selling the wr in the states....lol
@@MaxwellBenson80 that's exactly how that works
be happy we get regural t7 that is make in japan unlike them got french pos t7 make from allover parts
Great summary...how about world raid GYTR? For those without a money limits. Personally I'd go for standard model and try to save money for shock, fork and steering damper.
Giimme tubeless spoked rims and cruise control PLEASE!!!
Easy peasy, just pop down to your local Aprilia dealer.
@@mermerac On my way!
No, it makes way too much sense for yamaha 😂
Nice video, came to look whats different on world raid / rally and got my answer. Time stamps for different models would be a big plus.
Traded my 1290 Super Adventure for an World Rallye....Back to the roots.
I won't ever use the better offroad capabilities compared to a "standard" tenere, but the World Rallye is so beautiful and they made such a great quality of finish and painting. Love it already after one weekend.
I trust in her reliability too, in Germany you can get three additional years of warranty for about 300 Euro - this only works if the bike IS reliable.
Absolutely brilliant video. Thanks for the info. The editing on this channel is always on point 👌🏻
I'm riding 22 tenere standed . And loving it with my own upgrades
Thanks for this vey well done video. I am now considering the Explorer version.
Paid 7,800 pounds or $10,000 here in the US for the basic version T7. It seems all bikes sold in UK to be about 20-30% higher.
I would buy the Extream edition with extra parts for luggage and a taller windscreen :)
Great review of them all! There's a leftover new 2023 World Raid for 1000 euros off to clear out the showroom. It's the last one. Just might get it this week. It's a beauty.
You didn't get it, did you ?
@@leeinwis i got it! Love it.
Here in Germany there are a few with a 2000€ discount. Gonna buy one tomorrow/today probably.
@@arvedludwig3584 get it! I've had mine since May and it's the best bike I've ever owned.
@ronhamelin I should do it. Especially since this month they will deliver it for free to my doorstep by truck.
I would take the World Rally in a heartbeat...even over the KTM or Husky that we have here in the US...
There's no reason not to have a cruise control if you have ride-by-wire throttle. Absolutely no excuse not to have it in today's bikes. It would cost 17 bucks in parts and just a few lines of code in the ECU to have that and they could charge 50 bucks more for the bike.
Great vid. I would buy the cheapest possible. I would upgrade on my own
T7 explore .
Mostly ride on road for touring.
I'm only 5'7" . 😊
I bought the 22 model because of its simplicity. Plenty enough aftermarket gear to make it suit my needs. Lets face it, modern tech sucks and takes away the feeling of riding at least for me but each to their own. As someone who owns 15 motorcycles currently of different types and styles I ask myself sometimes if I could have one bike what would it be. I can never answer it but when I ride the T7 its definatly up there in that moment 😆
I got offered a great deal last year to upgrade my xtz660z for a 700 rally. Couldn’t face trading my 660 in but still lust after the white rally ❤
So sad, its not available here in Nepal, just wish to have a test drive at least 😪
Wish the World Raid had the Rally livery though….
You can find the right livery for you on RUclips, white BYRD , orange Chesterfield, blue SONAUTO, you name it!
Needs ride by wire , cruise control and a simple on/off traction control system , at least on the World Raid anyway
World rally looks soo good I would get either of the rally
I’ve got the rally but with black excel rims instead of the gold rims
i think i would choose the extreme. i love the looks and i think for a heavier/taller rider, who i am, it would be the best choice with the upgraded suspension, seat height and ground clearence
Only when the explore is made with a more comfortable saddle for traveling with 2 people, with tubeless tires and in better colors
World Rally may be list price top of the range, but the APR of 4.9% currently compared to 9.9% on some of the other bikes in the range is a HUGE benefit, bring the cost down hugely of ownership. Kerrching, there goes the sound of the till with my deposit!
I wish they would make a Tenere 700 with Tubeless Spoke rims... that would be perfect bike
change rims??
@@constantinosschinas4503 A few companies make Tubleless rims for the T7, they are around $2000 for a pair
Extrem. Having owned a KTM620 Adventure at a whopping 940mm seat height, this one would be perfect.
My dream Yamaha would be a special build with just the GYTR rally fuel tanks and the performance and handling kits and no fairing, just an enduro front light. Kind of old school dakar style. Just have to win the lottery, i have a good feeling for tonights draw!
I would buy the World Raid in a heartbeat!!! Sadly Yamaha doesn't have their 💩 together and hasn't brought it to the US 😮💨😮💨😮💨
Bruh You think you got it bad? I'm trying to get it 2024 Africa twin. I think I would have better luck walking into a dealership and asking for a fucking unicorn at this point.
Well Yamaha hasn't brought the Tenere to india at all. Yamaha and KTM have been weird about bringing their advs to india. Ktm sells their pseudo adv 390 though. Bmw, Ducati, triumph, Honda, Suzuki, kawasaki, Harley Davidson all offer almost their entire range of accessories here but Yamaha and ktm won't. And Yamaha india is content with rehashing 150cc motorcycles. Just utterly strange.
its so strange the tenere 700 only sells as the base model in the US. It's a massive seller in the us but only with the trash suspension model
In America, we only het the one base model. Can't even get the parts to convert the base to an Extreme version sent to the dealer to install. It is not jist a suspension upgrade, they told me...I called Yamaha USA a couple of days ago and talked to a rep...
I am interested in the World Raid; but, the only option would be to purchase a bike from a dealer overseas (not sure how tough that would be) and then, go through an Import/export company and also a kot of red-tape and fees.... Bummer.
Whatever one you choose will have great , well made , long lasting ..
Cams & top end valve train .. eg no cheese.
In South Africa we can only get the standard model. If they even have stock. So yes, no choices for us here in adventure riding heaven.
Man this bike looks sooo good. Unfortunately 72hp is not enough for me.. i really hope a tenere 900 will ever come
Same
Iff the 72hp is not enough , your are not riding off-road .
I ride faster with 72hp than my friend 100hp bike .
@@KevinVerresen that’s also true
@@KevinVerresen true rider.. love
The 700 tenure extreme or world raid would be my choice. With a mobile stand
I need somebody to test ride all these versions back to back to back to back
Tuareg without a catalytic is the best. T7 is also good but too offroad for me.
I don't know what the Yamaha parts bin looks like, but travelling with a base model may be less of a headache in that regard.
Bob does the 2024 tenere has a tubeless tire? Or still tube. I pick the rally
We in the USA get the Shaft only the Standard!
In 2024 I'm not pulling the wheel and tire off a 200kg bike to patch a tube. It's not a 100kg dirt bike it's an adventure bike eeerrrghh Yamaha why? and cruise control please ! I have a 2017 Tenere 1200 with heated grips, cruise control and tubeless tires, all standard for next to nothing.It's a fat 260kg adventure bike, but it knows it's not a dirt bike.
why you buy adv and expect dirt bike ? it's like buy van and complaining you can't drift it
Agree it should have cruise, heated and tubeless. All valid.
Great review all around but the last comment for the world rally price is totally inaccurate. The bikes you mention are a lot more expensive, at least here in Greece.
When are you going review the 7gt ?
Bit of inconsistency in the narrative about the prices. While few hundreds jump is flagged as signficant for the rally version you suggest the almost 1,5k jump to Triumph Tiger 900 rally pro is almost in range of the world rally. I mean come on.
I would go for the Explorer or Tracer 7 GT - in Denmark there are not many opetunities to ride offroad....
Of course! From yamaha !! For me, the Tenere 700 W. Rally! But I really rather to buy what I bought Already!!😅😅😂😂❤ it's my new Ducati DesertX RALLY'
I bought a GS 12 months ago and she's too big and heavy for me to handle off road without more training. Should have gone for one of these or even something smaller like a Husky 701/KTM690 to get my feet dirty. If I had the option, I'd probably grab the base model and kit it out as I needed too.
You will quickly realize, nothing can replace training. If you get the lighter bike you may get away with wrong body position, but you will never be really happy if you don't learn how to do it the right way.
And a GS is really not too bad for most off roading. despite the weight and the 19" wheel
The T7 could have been much better if...
Yamaha converted the engine to dry sump, flat bottom.
That would lower the COG significantly.
Like Aprilia did with their 660.
Or KTM flat bottom 790/890.
Yamaha engineers seem to be lazy 😅
The laziness also showed with the first generation where the ABS could not be switched of only at the rear.
If they had designed the bike properly I would own one.
Now I have to stick to the KTM 890 Adv R.
Great bike.
The worst customer care 😠
I would go for the World Raid. I tried the T7 standard and loved it, it is really playful. Unfortunately, couldn't try the WR as there is none on test in Switzerland, at least in my area. The downsize is on highways, and as I do quite a lot I need power. For now, I keep my KTM 1290 R for road and offroad and time will tell
I've got a world rally on order :)
Picking up mine today! 😍
Explorer. Im short, rode it.
Que altura tens?
@@leonardoalves5950 english sir. I rode the Yamaha Tenere 700 Explorer. Im 175 cm. And not long legs. Ride a Honda CRF300L Rally daily.
The one that doesnt have a problematic clutch
Is t7 good for street riding as well?
The honest truth is that if you really wanna focus on offroad and you are just a beginner, then a dual sport is more than enough. The power alone and the weight would be too much for a offroad beginner.
Sooo are we gonna see a T9 World Raid ?!?! The T7 is indeed an amazing bike but, why don't they make a T9.
Too heavy
Just get the cheapest one and enjoy it
Yes, ride the thing.....
Then mod to what you want
Exactly. I’m willing even buy a used one with already plate eliminator , aftermarket high exhaust and heating grips 😅 the best way to save money when a previous owner will put it for you
I might be doing my maths wrong but, the extreme being 910mm is still 3 inches shorter than my ktm 500. Which isn't even that tall. Does that mean all T7s are short?
how many Yamaha sold them, tenere 700, what are the figures?
I picked last years WR for 10995 with £1000 of Yamaha accessories thrown in 👍
Just wait for the 2025 facelift and new colors. Perhaps some extra futures.
I have ordered the Extreme to replace my CRF300 and Triumph 1200XE as I'm riding more ATC now but still wanted the ablity to ride distance on road and get off road. The only annoying part is Yamaha dont fit at least proper 50/50 tyres as standard which means I have to spend more money, the Extreme should come with them as standard.
Got mine since November 2023. loving every minute with it.
Estará chegando ao Brazil em 2025, quero ter uma standard ou explore.
i will take world raid for double tank and steering dumper
Are we getting the raid version in so cal?
I’ll take the Extreme please,thanks…🤘😉
Extreme with low fender for me please...
Same. 👍
Because they do not offer the world raid in the US i purchase a Ktm adv. 790
Which should u buy and news flash this just in the kove 800x will be available and wow its better than the t7 in almost every dimension and my goodness will you look at that price 😳😲🤯
Yeah t7 completely doesn't make sense in current market with this pricing.
Boomers who curse at electronics are still getting them though , so looks like Yamaha did found it's niche 😂
It's ridiculous how much tuareg is better yet at same price as base t7.
Here in poland tuareg is even cheaper .
I'm waiting for kove fuck obsolete brands
@@Angry-Lynx seems like this kove is gonna make the t660 obsolete as well, no? As well as the transalp, base 790/890 adv, cf450, himalayan… most ‘middleweight’ and many ‘lightweight’ adv bikes seem to have just been disrupted big time.
Also in the states the t660 is over $2k more than the base t7… t660 is rather pricey here, and its $3k more than the kove800 is expected to be.
@@Weltbummler23 I don't think it'll make Tuareg obsolete, I can still think at least few things to take it over Kove - with obviously cruise control being the main thing.
BUT! It'll for sure be it's direct and probably main competition and steal some sales from Aprilia which isn't doing too hot with Tuareg already.
One thing I'm absolutely sure is that Kove new unicorn proposal is extremely good news for adv market and competition.
Let's just hope they can last those next few years which will be challenging for them but if they manage I'm sure we'll see amazing things on adv market, including much more polished 800x with CC :)
@@Angry-Lynx a couple months back they announced the 800x will have cruise control. Also some european expats in china have posted that its also got very low vibrations, about as low as the t660… kove’s 450 does not have cruise, perhaps you are thinking of that one? On paper the kove 800x seems to have improved on the t660 in pretty much every spec 🤷♂️
The world raid would be the one for me😋Gorgeous bike that I'd buy in a heart beat, if ony they'd put tubeless spokes on it😭come on Yamaha
World Raid for sure!! To bad its 20K+ in Norway...
Why don’t we get all these options in the US???
Because we don't buy enough bikes!!!
There are only so many bikes I can buy!
@@dirtydog1114 I'll try to do my best, but...money and the ring are not supportive in my mission to make the statistical turnaround from HD to Adventure Bikes...
Definitely the extreme
World raid , but I needthe semi auto box. I have a paralysed left ankle.
Tenere is very god bike ! Super offroader!
I would definitely buy the one that you are not buying which is none of them.
No tubeless tyres no go for me.
Either would be good.
All that and no cruise control
It's not designed to be used on long straight roads where Cruise control would be useful, most of the rides I do I'd never get the chance to use cruise control because the roads are winding , gravel etc even on main roads you get stuck behind traffic where CC is no use unless it's adaptive .
Or tubeless wheels
@@silverdale3207I think you missed the "touring" part of "adventure touring"... CC would absolutely be a useful and welcome addition to this bike.
@@yuriabmxr not really, I just think that if you are doing a lot of straight long roads then there are better options than the T7. In New Zealand we are constantly on and off the throttle even on main roads sure to traffic and corners so I'd never get to use CC anyway. Remember they were designed as a simple reliable bike built to a budget, that's why they sell like hotcakes
@@silverdale3207 cc is useful everywhere unless you live directly on a trail. I use it on my commute every day and i find use any highways. The only reason the t7 doesn't have cc because it doesn't have drive by wire throttle. If the cp2 was dbw, it would have cc and add $0 to the price or complexity. Also, in the US, if your singletrack is an hour away, that is considered very close. It's a big place...
Would buy an Extreme or WR tomorrow... if it was available in the US. Oh well...🤷🏻
Does anyone know if Yamaha is going to release a 2025 Tenere 900? I think that's what I want. I've seen two videos made from AI which mean nothing to me. I need MotoBob and other credible sources to give me a yes or a no, so I can save my dough. Thanks.
The Extreme isn't available in the US!
They knew EXACTLY what they are doing releasing shitty base t7, then waiting few years.
Its called upselling and fuck them for that with huge F.
And even with all those new versions u still don't get basic current era shit like tubless and cruise control... Its ridiculous
If I had the 25k?
The GYTR T7 Ralle❤❤❤👍👍🙏🙏🇬🇧🇬🇧💎💎
In Canada we only have one choice.
In north america we only have one choice.
the good choice bike that is made in japan NOT france so b happy
@@grego10r You are correct, all bikes shipped to the USA are made in japan.
@@lhurst9550 yes sir and in japan they dont make any wr and all this extrem bs versions so we get the good made in japan t7
Why they call it a world raid when parts of the world are left out of enjoying it is beyond me.
I wish we had a choice here in the usa. But at last we only get the one. What's the deal there Yamaha ??
The explorer is a miss. It should have just been a low version(susp+l.seat) and a lower price. That would see them grab the market of the new 450 approachable ADV's with little to no effort. This way no real reason to get it. The rest look as good as they have from the start
I'm broke but i'l go for the rally one
Why r all of u who have bike already complaining? At least u have a bike.
I pick the World Rally...
Explore with the big tank …
Build a T 800 or 900 and I'll buy one.