@@patrickMorris-p4t I have the 22 model also. I don’t want rider modes or traction control either, but it’s nice you can still disable both with the push of a button.
To add ride-by-wire without cruise is super frustrating. Yamaha must know that everyone wants cruise and tubeless, so why not give people what they want???
I had a air cooled DT125. In that blue colour C reg 1985 I'm not even sure if it was a DT125R DT125MX it looked like an DT125LC. With the rong engine. It was a great bike.
IT175 baby! Glad to see the homage livery. I had as my first bike a 1978 yellow and black DT125 two stroke…bumble bee in sound and look. Loved the blue IT at the time.
I’m 5’8/174 so the lowered version has a lot of appeal as well as this updated version. It impresses as an inner urban area bike for me with some occasional gravel riding.
I wish you'd shown exactly what was updated on the exhaust mount. I couldn't tell from your shot. Other than that, great job on the detailed reporting. Can't wait for your other videos of EICMA.
In a nice twist for Canada, for some reason Yamaha is offering the Sky Blue livery on the base model along with the Team Yamaha and Frozen Titanium colours. No need to wait for the Rally model if you like the vintage paint scheme. It has the low standard fender but you get the cool colours.
3:04 "Yamaha's engineers say that they didn't want to add tech for the sake of adding tech" .... Yamaha's engineers: Adds tech for the sake of adding tech 🤣🤣🤣. I mean ride by wire and no cruise control.... Literally the only reason you would want that 😆
@@DB-sd3cw I would agree except for the fact that in North America, which is a pretty big market for the T7, we only get the base model so we don't even have the choice to chose the rally and world raid editions for the extra tech. Should definitely have cruise as a standard, it's literally just one button. Even the Triumph Scrambler has cruise control.
I reckon this might not be such a problem in countries that are not too sharp on regulations. But EU regulations are pretty clear on bent frames. I have been there, the bike was a write off. Frame repair is a doosy here.
My ‘21 is still going strong. Deleted everything I can, fully race prepped. Not super into having more electronics on these bikes so I’ll keep mine thank you lol.
The fuel tank itself is NOT lower. From Tenere's website page "The new fuel tank has been moved forward and the fuel cap sits lower for improved weight distribution[...]". Not sure how much of an impact the lower fuel cap has on weight distribution though! Yamaha basically changed the fuel cap from an outie to an innie.
The low version skid plate is actually sitting low enough to protect the rear suspension bone! The standard one the suspension protrudes beyond the skid plate's protection!
Won't please everybody no matter what they do. I figured RBW throttle was coming, since the MT-07 got it. I think they showed good constraint by avoiding tech amenities and made a point to stick to their guns on that. I would rather cruise control vs. traction control, but also, cruise would be much more of a highway/pavement feature on this bike and likely something no one will think about riding gravel and dirt. Glad the aesthetics remain essentially the same, it's a good looking machine without becoming gaudy (other ADV bikes.. GS and such).
the white side panels at the back give it a nice WRF look !! shame its not available with cruise contol and Y-AMT yet. If they can offer the MT-07 with it why not the Tenere ?? ...uh and fook riding modes!
Wish they did something with the exhaust hanger and that exhaust. That can sticks out like a wart on the nose. Personally like the look of a smaller high mount that you see in the aftermarket, but even with the regs they could do something to improve look and function. Love the light blue livery of the Rally recalling the IT of yore.
I’m glad you’re showing the T7 because apparently this is the version Yamaha is (finally) launching in Brazil. Wow, Yamaha. Why has it taken soooo long?
MSRP is ~ $11000. MSRP on a KTM 450 SM, $12000. I was reading an article on 'What's Wrong with KTM?', and it seems that one of their problems is overpricing. As you can see their 450 is more than Yami's 700. The Tenere is a very nice bike. I'm glad Yami made it. Let's just hope they decide not to 'add tech' by removing a cylinder and trying to gimmick the masses (lookin at you, R7, R9 that should have 4 cylinders).
Excellent review (AS USUAL) thanks Bob. I bought an Extreme in July 2024, Not sure on the tech, Tech for Tech sake, and will drive up the price by 1 to 2k
It has the right equipment, at least. The biggest thing my Gen 1 needs. I suppose Yammy will wait for the long distance package in another year or so (if ever)
It's not necessarily a pavement/highway slogging ride, like a Super Tenere or Tracer 900. Riding gravel or rugged trails, people won't be using the cruise.
Great coverage Bob, as usual. Keep up the great work. Love the BobCam BTW ;-) Hey, let's see some of your analysis of the new Honda V3 turbo/super and if the AT gets it and when?? Pretty please? Cheers from Sydney Australia.
Bought an LSK dongle for my 2024 Tenere to have the same ABS push button feature as this 2025. Wondering on the fueling is for 1 gear at slower speeds...hopefully less on off feel.
Bought a used (3k km) fully equipped heritage white rally ed. for 10k in august. The prices will decide if a switch makes sense. If the rally is in the 13,300+k € area it will be nearly 1,5 the price of what I bought (if you add all extras).
Solid review. I think they'd be better served with a standard t7 spec'd like the 2024, and a plus model being this one. Peke love the bike FOR is simplicity. Give peke the option for these extra features if they see value in it, I'd personally love cruise control. That said, a a heavier guy I'd WAY rather they upgrade the suspension to handle more weight without bottoming out. I dint want to spend 14-15k just to need to upgrade the entire suspension. I dint know if the world raid fits this bill, but it doesn't matter since it's not available in Canada anyway. I'd also like more power for highway cruising. Be sick to get a tenere 900..... For these reasons, I'm leaning towards the vstrom 800de, on the cheaper end, maybe an Africa twin or tiger 900 on the slightly higher end.
wow they completely removed the FJR1300 from the US line up. also just one option for the 2025 tracer 9, just the base model and its MSRP is cheaper than the 2024 $4,000
@@guzziman sure ok for average joe adventure bike rider where gravel roads are the limit, but push an adventure bike harder of road and you might as well have tubes
They need to put the cp3 in the tenere 700 body. Retune it and release it. I think the t7 isnt the wanted bike it used to be any ore they need something new
120 horsepower even-firing triple is NOT a dirt engine. Good luck ever keeping knobs on a rear tire or getting traction. Besides, a Tiger 900 exists. Go buy one.
It is too pricey for a real middleweight parallel twin. The base model should be around 9 grand max and the Rally around 10, when you consider Honda are offering a 155 hp 1000 Hornet for 10 grand.
@@shivamarya5225 never had a problem with tubeless tyres. A puncture? 5 minutes repair and off I go. One can still carry a tube just in case and install it if needed.
Great video BUT I couldn't care less about this Tenere - still no cruise or tubeless is ridiculous when a voge 900 comes with those and full adjustable suspension, heated seats, grips, front camera and blind spot monitoring with a BMW engine for £9200. I am much more curious about the voge 800 ds rally which will be under £9000 could you please cover the voge for us ? Thanks man
Cruise control, cruise control, cruise control. When will manufacturers get it into their heads? All bikes should have cruise control, especially if they have just had a brand new RBW system added to the bike. What a miss.
So let me get this straight. They took the original T7 and updated it with a TFT and harder to disable ABS. Now they've taken that, added a bigger TFT, ride-by -wire, and modes, increased the weight, didn't improve power, left it tall, top heavy... and did I mention ADD WEIGHT. So now we have a worse bike, that has no point of difference (Simple analogue experience) to other modern bikes, but doesn't compete in performance (Power-weight, suspension, or quality of electronics package). At least the idiots that buy this will increase the second-hand market for well set-up O.Gs with bashplates, luggage, pipes etc.
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I bought the 22 edition for it's simplicity and reliability I think I'll be hanging on it for evermore with the way things are going .
@@patrickMorris-p4t I have the 22 model also. I don’t want rider modes or traction control either, but it’s nice you can still disable both with the push of a button.
To add ride-by-wire without cruise is super frustrating. Yamaha must know that everyone wants cruise and tubeless, so why not give people what they want???
Ride by wire is required to meet emissions.
Emissions is the cause.. this not for the rider
@@chrishart8548 I understand that but with ride by wire all you need is a button to have cruise control so there’s no excuse now not to have it.
yup, the new KTM 390 adv even has cruise control now.
Ride by wire, wait till people discover they put epa restrictions on throttle response, had to reflash my ecu to get rid of them on the super tenere
The light blue takes me back to the 80s and my first Yamaha.
I had a air cooled DT125. In that blue colour C reg 1985 I'm not even sure if it was a DT125R DT125MX it looked like an DT125LC. With the rong engine. It was a great bike.
IT175 baby! Glad to see the homage livery.
I had as my first bike a 1978 yellow and black DT125 two stroke…bumble bee in sound and look. Loved the blue IT at the time.
Spent the day waiting for your videos:D
I’m 5’8/174 so the lowered version has a lot of appeal as well as this updated version. It impresses as an inner urban area bike for me with some occasional gravel riding.
You know you can get a $100 lowering link for the original and the low seat and have a better, cheaper T7 right???
Hey Bob,
Nice to see you at Eicma again
Now I know that we won't miss a thing with you been there
Great job mate!!
I wish you'd shown exactly what was updated on the exhaust mount. I couldn't tell from your shot. Other than that, great job on the detailed reporting. Can't wait for your other videos of EICMA.
In a nice twist for Canada, for some reason Yamaha is offering the Sky Blue livery on the base model along with the Team Yamaha and Frozen Titanium colours. No need to wait for the Rally model if you like the vintage paint scheme. It has the low standard fender but you get the cool colours.
The Frost Titanium or Frozen Titanium, whatever they're calling it looks AMAZING.
3:04 "Yamaha's engineers say that they didn't want to add tech for the sake of adding tech" .... Yamaha's engineers: Adds tech for the sake of adding tech 🤣🤣🤣. I mean ride by wire and no cruise control.... Literally the only reason you would want that 😆
Probably have a jewish ceo or boardmembers that wants to force consumers to spend more on the higher-end models.
@@DB-sd3cw I would agree except for the fact that in North America, which is a pretty big market for the T7, we only get the base model so we don't even have the choice to chose the rally and world raid editions for the extra tech. Should definitely have cruise as a standard, it's literally just one button. Even the Triumph Scrambler has cruise control.
Agreed!! Honda is doing the same thing with their Hornets. Even the CB1000 Hornet doesn't have cruise control which is just unacceptable.
@@DB-sd3cw what has the religion to do with it?
Yep. They may as well have taken a dump and wrapped it in tinsel.
EICMA cover started, can't wait for all the content ❤❤
i love it. they did a very good job finding that fine line of bringing it up to modern spec but not over complicating things. love the hand guards
Awesome report Sir, always looking forward to your next video. 🙏
Exhaust hanger is still welded to the rear subframe, right? Could use a healthy dose of more sorting out imho.
For sure, how hard would it have been to just make it a bolt on and resolve the issue for good?!
'Fixed' stuff that was good, left all the big issues untouched... WTF?
I told this to my mechanic, then he tells me if i bend the subframe I'll be dead by then..😂
I reckon this might not be such a problem in countries that are not too sharp on regulations. But EU regulations are pretty clear on bent frames. I have been there, the bike was a write off. Frame repair is a doosy here.
Don’t know if you caught it but he mentioned in the video that Yamaha sorted that out
The rally is one hell of a good looking bike
I didn't realize the Mrs. was doing Rob's camera work here! Love to see it!
My ‘21 is still going strong. Deleted everything I can, fully race prepped. Not super into having more electronics on these bikes so I’ll keep mine thank you lol.
🙏🏽Bob!
Appreciate ya!
Have a blast!
🏍️💨
Edit-the Rally💙
He’s called Rob 🤓
The fuel tank itself is NOT lower. From Tenere's website page "The new fuel tank has been moved forward and the fuel cap sits lower for improved weight distribution[...]". Not sure how much of an impact the lower fuel cap has on weight distribution though!
Yamaha basically changed the fuel cap from an outie to an innie.
How has the exhaust hanger been improved- the the same as the old one
Another year that the Tuareg is going to be the best mid-adventure
Thank you Yamaha!!!
The low version skid plate is actually sitting low enough to protect the rear suspension bone! The standard one the suspension protrudes beyond the skid plate's protection!
Glad they fix the can hanger. Is it detachable?
I watch your every video sir
Won't please everybody no matter what they do.
I figured RBW throttle was coming, since the MT-07 got it.
I think they showed good constraint by avoiding tech amenities and made a point to stick to their guns on that.
I would rather cruise control vs. traction control, but also, cruise would be much more of a highway/pavement feature on this bike and likely something no one will think about riding gravel and dirt.
Glad the aesthetics remain essentially the same, it's a good looking machine without becoming gaudy (other ADV bikes.. GS and such).
Yeah, it looks good, but that is it.
@@actstuntcam Won't please everybody no matter what they do.
@@exothermal.sprocket Was nice having a point of difference in the market place, hopefully China will start making more traditional bikes.
the white side panels at the back give it a nice WRF look !! shame its not available with cruise contol and Y-AMT yet. If they can offer the MT-07 with it why not the Tenere ??
...uh and fook riding modes!
Love frm kerala, india 🇮🇳
Great fast hitting review.
Wish they did something with the exhaust hanger and that exhaust. That can sticks out like a wart on the nose. Personally like the look of a smaller high mount that you see in the aftermarket, but even with the regs they could do something to improve look and function. Love the light blue livery of the Rally recalling the IT of yore.
I’m glad you’re showing the T7 because apparently this is the version Yamaha is (finally) launching in Brazil. Wow, Yamaha. Why has it taken soooo long?
Nice to know they kept the flaw, I mean feature! Of the bending chassis due to that exhaust
MSRP is ~ $11000. MSRP on a KTM 450 SM, $12000.
I was reading an article on 'What's Wrong with KTM?', and it seems that one of their problems is overpricing. As you can see their 450 is more than Yami's 700.
The Tenere is a very nice bike. I'm glad Yami made it. Let's just hope they decide not to 'add tech' by removing a cylinder and trying to gimmick the masses (lookin at you, R7, R9 that should have 4 cylinders).
Excellent review (AS USUAL) thanks Bob. I bought an Extreme in July 2024, Not sure on the tech, Tech for Tech sake, and will drive up the price by 1 to 2k
still waiting for cruise control
It has the right equipment, at least. The biggest thing my Gen 1 needs. I suppose Yammy will wait for the long distance package in another year or so (if ever)
Moi aussi
It's not necessarily a pavement/highway slogging ride, like a Super Tenere or Tracer 900. Riding gravel or rugged trails, people won't be using the cruise.
They'll add it on a premium model in a year's time. Can't give people what they want all at once
@@exothermal.sprocket Everyone isn’t using the t7 as a dirtbike champ
Great coverage Bob, as usual. Keep up the great work. Love the BobCam BTW ;-) Hey, let's see some of your analysis of the new Honda V3 turbo/super and if the AT gets it and when?? Pretty please? Cheers from Sydney Australia.
What are the actual changes in the exhaust pipe? Seems exactly the same as on older models. I hoped they would move it more above the rear wheel.
Thought about buying one but at my age and size I don’t think I could pick it up if I dropped it on the trail.
Good report
Is the fairing wider on this model? Looks wider around the hedlight..
I’m sold ❤😊
Bob I'm still waiting for Transalp XL750 Review!! 😊
The new one with world raid trim..fingers crossed 🤞
Bought an LSK dongle for my 2024 Tenere to have the same ABS push button feature as this 2025. Wondering on the fueling is for 1 gear at slower speeds...hopefully less on off feel.
I like the color
Im most excited for the for the bmw f450 gs
I hope this bike will be sold in South Korea as well
Bought a used (3k km) fully equipped heritage white rally ed. for 10k in august. The prices will decide if a switch makes sense. If the rally is in the 13,300+k € area it will be nearly 1,5 the price of what I bought (if you add all extras).
How about the size? Is it bigger than the previous one?
Please use 60 fps when you are taking video at the EICMA show to take care of the lights blinking like crasy...
I bought the T7 for the simplicity glad i have the 24 model, this 25 model looks like too much tech you dont need.
Without reading the title, I wouldn't have known that this is the Tenere 700, totally unrecognizable
Hi! The abs button works on the go or just stopped?
What about the Super Tenere 1200? I need to update my 2015…
Did I just pay not enough attention or does the bike still not have cruise control?!
Great review bob is it only a standard exhaust on the rally
Why the heck are we not getting this bike in the US?
I was like.. where Motobob be.. seeing all these announcements!
860 mm = 33.86 inches the low version .
875 mm= 34.45"
910 mm = 35.83"
Wait so whats actually different ? Cruise control and RBW all those other modes etc were already there ..
Solid review. I think they'd be better served with a standard t7 spec'd like the 2024, and a plus model being this one. Peke love the bike FOR is simplicity. Give peke the option for these extra features if they see value in it, I'd personally love cruise control.
That said, a a heavier guy I'd WAY rather they upgrade the suspension to handle more weight without bottoming out. I dint want to spend 14-15k just to need to upgrade the entire suspension. I dint know if the world raid fits this bill, but it doesn't matter since it's not available in Canada anyway.
I'd also like more power for highway cruising. Be sick to get a tenere 900.....
For these reasons, I'm leaning towards the vstrom 800de, on the cheaper end, maybe an Africa twin or tiger 900 on the slightly higher end.
Rally ? In the US? i doubt it
Less tech, reliable engine and old school parts is good enough for me to go for a YAMAHA.
wow they completely removed the FJR1300 from the US line up. also just one option for the 2025 tracer 9, just the base model and its MSRP is cheaper than the 2024 $4,000
Ok thanks,that's good but any news about "mt 10"??😅
any word on the FJR1300?
does the xsr700 get the same upgrades just like the MT07? otherwise i'll deposit the new speed twin 900
Alternately, a Ducati Scrambler? A Royal Enfield Bear 650?
I wish they would make the change that many of us want... TUBELESS tires.... that will make the bike so much more appealing as adventure bike
Even the base africa twin still has tubes what's the deal even the cheapest Chinese bike all seem to be tubeless.
Tubeless? Decent dent to the rim- like my t7 has and your walking home with tubeless
@@glennwr450 Spoke tubeless rims like the GS, and like many other bikes.... no issue.. and you can always carry and put a tube if you like
@@guzziman sure ok for average joe adventure bike rider where gravel roads are the limit, but push an adventure bike harder of road and you might as well have tubes
tubeless??
Great bike made even better lets hope the prices hasn't gone up much?
Are these headlights as terrible as the ones on the V-Strom 800/800DE?
Terrible is a relative term.
I would say quad projectors would be a better spread of light in general.
Is no one gonna mention the fuel cap ? 😅 That's a great upgrade in my books. I can't explain enough how ugly and cheep the old one was !
Do you think the next T900 will have the mt09 engine???❤❤👍👍🙏🙏🇬🇧🇬🇧🏍️🏍️
Yes ! Cruise and y-amt to.
2026
cruise control?
No CC😐. My wrist says i'll pass. too bad
Real fuel tank lid. Steering head changed? I think so. Three new gears
They need to put the cp3 in the tenere 700 body. Retune it and release it. I think the t7 isnt the wanted bike it used to be any ore they need something new
120 horsepower even-firing triple is NOT a dirt engine. Good luck ever keeping knobs on a rear tire or getting traction.
Besides, a Tiger 900 exists. Go buy one.
YES! Yamaha actually nailed what an upgrade is supposed to be, the right amount of tech rather than over-charging it with tech most people wont need.
Did Yamaha change the plastics on any models from ABS to HDPE? I am thinking it would be stupid to put ABS on the Rally model.
want and willing to wait from factory plastic tank.
It is too pricey for a real middleweight parallel twin. The base model should be around 9 grand max and the Rally around 10, when you consider Honda are offering a 155 hp 1000 Hornet for 10 grand.
I was ready to sell my 2020 T7 and get this, untill i found it dosnt have cruse control, thats a deal breaker.
No cruise or tubeless no buy
The change has switched from high maintenance bikes to high maintenance riders. What's next? No Skylink no Netflix no buy? It's a MOTORCYCLE not a PC.
@@CRFLAus no tubeless means high maintenance and lots of work when the tyre gets punctured.
@@motolover5697 no it's just convinience. If a tubeless tyre breaks you need to replace the whole tyre,if tube punctures, you replace the tube
@@shivamarya5225 never had a problem with tubeless tyres. A puncture? 5 minutes repair and off I go. One can still carry a tube just in case and install it if needed.
just buy a BMW 💅💅🤣
RBW and Rider Modes! Yikes! Give me a cable throttle and Rider Moods any day!
Where is the tracer 7?
Cruise control, tubeless tires and apple car play and im sold. As it lacks these things, im not
Xsr 155?
How about a T9.
How about a T3. Or a tacer 300 or an XSR300
The expected new Tracer 7 is conspicuously absent.
What about world raid?
If they would drop a big bore… ma. I would be pumped. 150 hp. Y-amt. new electronic suspension.. I’d most likely trade the 1290…
Great video BUT I couldn't care less about this Tenere - still no cruise or tubeless is ridiculous when a voge 900 comes with those and full adjustable suspension, heated seats, grips, front camera and blind spot monitoring with a BMW engine for £9200. I am much more curious about the voge 800 ds rally which will be under £9000 could you please cover the voge for us ? Thanks man
Another year where Yamaha is poised to only give North America a base model Tenere. Glad I went another direction instead of waiting.
WTH? No bolt on rear triangle and no tubless...they trull ignore customers..but, normal fuel cap, finally.
Noice
Cruise control, cruise control, cruise control. When will manufacturers get it into their heads? All bikes should have cruise control, especially if they have just had a brand new RBW system added to the bike. What a miss.
Tubeless, cruise control, removable sub frame... That's all we wanted
They killed off the super Tenere.
You hit the ground running. Pace yourself
‘Low’ at 860mm 😂
So let me get this straight. They took the original T7 and updated it with a TFT and harder to disable ABS. Now they've taken that, added a bigger TFT, ride-by -wire, and modes, increased the weight, didn't improve power, left it tall, top heavy... and did I mention ADD WEIGHT. So now we have a worse bike, that has no point of difference (Simple analogue experience) to other modern bikes, but doesn't compete in performance (Power-weight, suspension, or quality of electronics package). At least the idiots that buy this will increase the second-hand market for well set-up O.Gs with bashplates, luggage, pipes etc.