LMS 46233 battles over Shap in the snow on the Winter Cumbrian Mountain Express 31/1/15.
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- Опубликовано: 7 окт 2024
- LMS 46233 The Duchess of Sutherland was at the helm of 2nd Railway Touring Companies railtour " The Winter Cumbrian Mountain Express " from London Euston to Carlisle via Shap summit and back again over the Settle and Carlisle line . The tour started with two class 47's ( 47237 & 47746 ) taking the train to Carnforth with 46233 taking over from there .The first shot sees the 46233 attacking the 1 in 75 gradient at a very snowy scenic Shap Wells with driver Peter Kirk on the regulator. The return would see a snowy Birkett Common as 46233 attacks the climb towards Aisgill summit . I decided to do Birkett again as with the snow being around and it's not often the Duchess is out in the snow at this time of year .Not my best pan at Shap wells so sorry for any wobbles .
I remember being on Shap that day with tripod and cameras shooting this event and getting frozen into the bargain while waiting for the Duchess’ arrival. Your lovely video, Stephen, has brought back happy memories of a great day out at a place which, living over here, now, I will probably never see again. Thanks for posting.
Absolutely fabulous film of my favourite locomotive putting in a first class performance. Brilliant all credit to you for your efforts on such a hostile day.
Anthony Cooper Thanks Anthony , it was a very cold day but well worth freezing for all the same .
Great video mate I was on the train.They obviously sorted the problem with the brakes out 46233 flattened both Ais Gill and Wilpshire on the return.
TAMWORTHFAN Thanks for the kind comment , she did sound superb on the return and could be heard for a fair while before the smoke appeared in the distance . Regards Steve
Another masterful performance both by you and the loco !! Wonderful shot at Birkett with the snow on the mountains. That bl**dy wind at Shap again obscuring the train
Alan from Eastbourne
allbuaa Thanks Alan , I was annoyed the wind changed direction as when I arrived on Shap it was blowing easterly !
Thank you so much. beautiful, moving, every shot a work of art. No banker up Shap either, no wonder she was working so hard!
Fabulous Steve - great pan at Shap, in difficult cold conditions and with a slow moving subject. Birkett is heavenly - at least the sun stayed half out - stunning mix of performance and superb weather conditions. Many thanks, David.
Linesider1 Thanks David , I find a slow moving train harder to pan but it worked ok in the end . I thought the sun was going to stay out at Birkett but it dipped at the last second !
Superb set of shots Steve in ideal filming conditions. The Duchess did very well with no assistance, cracking performance at Birkett.
Steaming Around The Midlands Thanks Sam , I had to think twice about doing Birkett again but I was lucky with the light even though it went just at the wrong moment .
A green "semi" with a rake of maroon coaches - just as I remember it in the early 60s. Memories of annual trips to London, usually on the Royal Scot. Thanks a lot for this.
Wonderful. Though I find it ironic that these icons of the steam age do better in snowy conditions than the modern diesels.
Stunning scenery, a majestic Duchess and superb filming, Steve. Oh to have been there. Keith
hemerdonbank Thanks Keith , well worth going out for but it was bitterly cold !
Brilliant video Steve with the sun making great lighting effects. The shot at Birkett was great with the snow on the hill side creating a fantastic back cloth . C&A
EMuksteam Thanks C&A , I was lucky at Birkett as with 46233 being ten early the dipping sun gave us the special light even though the light went just near the end as she came out of the cutting . Regards Steve
Wonderful Steve, just wonderful.
1Goldsteam Thanks Alan , sometimes the conditions add to the spectacle I must admit .
Excellent piece of film and the conditions although difficult, enhanced the quality.
Colin10ten Thanks Colin , it was very cold with the fingers feeling numb at times !
Probably the best video of a steam loco i have ever seen
Thanks for the very kind comment and sorry for the very late reply . Steve
A good but of snow around Shap and some spectacular scenes. Liking the 2 camera thing as well.
Steam in the North West Thanks for the comment and taking the time to watch . Was not sure if the two camera angles would work but it seemed ok . Steve
Superb footage of 46233 Steve....amazing in the snowy landscape. At Birkett the distant Hills looked surreal ....Big like from me..well done...you must have been frozen...regards....Steve.
***** Thanks Steve , the weather made for a good video I must admit even though it was a very windy cold day that had my fingers near dropping off at Birkett .
Great camerawork and sound. Many thanks
Cracking stuff, Steve. The snowy backdrops make for a superb sight. Very unusual pace from the, Duchess, on, Shap. But, back to her best at Birkett ! Will keep a lookout for you on, Saturday. Regards, Liam
Marsh Steam Videos™ Thanks Liam , the train had brake problems on Shap hence the slow climb .
Excellent shots Steve and the odd glimpse of sunlight on the exhaust was just perfect.
Regards Phil.
***** Thanks Phil , the light was good on Shap just a shame the sun kept going in and out . It was bloody freezing at Birkett and even with gloves on I could hardly feel my fingers !
An absolute pleasure to watch Steve, the conditions were pretty special especially at Birkett. Hope to be out to see her next week. Thanks for sharing.
Mick45305 Thanks Mick , Birkett was great as we were pretty lucky the dipping sun was still giving us the light .
Great shots Steve, some great locations too. Nice exhaust and sound coming from the Duchess as it climbed Shap. Regards JamesandPeter
JamesandPeter Thanks both , the exhaust colour changed near Salterwath as I believe the train started to have trouble with some brakes sticking somewhere .
Another fantastic video Steve, love the scenic spots and the snow is beautiful making the settings even more spectacular.
madpetrolhead Thanks Ken , I think the snow has gone now so this saturday could be a bit different . Steve
Thank you for such excellent camera work, very enjoyable watching my favourite loco class.
LYNN BROWN Thanks Lynn, glad you enjoyed 46233 at work on the mainline just as it should be . Regards Steve
Some quite amazing footage and sounds from 'The Duchess' on its climbs up the snowy gradients Stephen. Stunning surround winter scenery a superb bonus. Thoroughly enjoyable viewing from start to finish. Best wishes - Allan.
allan5919 Thanks Allan , you can't go far wrong with a Duchess in the snow .
Cracking shots Steve, quite a slog up Shap but much more Duchesslike on the return. The snow on the hills at Birkett looked superb.
acw71000 Thanks Austin , it was difficult to pan a slow moving Duchess at times . The light was cracking at Birkett just a shame the sun went at the critical moment !
Really excellent video, thanks for standing around in the very cold weather to capture this footage!
+Julian Walker Thanks Julian , I suppose braving the weather is worth it for decent snowy shots . Regards Steve
Love the billowing exhaust up Shap Steve. And the light stayed with you at Birkett as well. Great camera work on Shap too. Chris
khankadet Thanks Chris, the sun was in and out on Shap but it made for a dramatic shot and Birkett was near prefect .
Absolutely brilliant video, thanks for posting.
***** Thanks for the very kind comment as its much appreciated . Regards Steve
Stunning! Many thx!
Great shots, fantastic locations and perfect weather! Though it did look rather cold!!
Roger Denton Thanks Roger , it was very cold indeed but wrapped up well just in case .
10 stars! Wonderful video and beautiful locomotive!
Thanks for the very kind comments as they are much appreciated . Steve
Excellent shots as always, even with the wobble lol. Looks like you had the weather up there today, should have come up with my sledge
Northern Steam Thanks for the kind comment , my hands were freezing so it was hard to pan the slow moving Duchess up Shap .
A Superb capture!!! Very dramatic, breathtaking:-)😊
Superb footage. Thanks for sharing.
Jeff Albiston Thank you Jeff , sorry for the late reply !
I saw 46233 many a time as she roared through Roade, Blisworth and Weedon in the 50s/60s .
Wonderful, Steve. I can't believe the difference in the weather, though. Here, in SW Wales it is blowing a gale with snow, sleet and hail coming horizontally! Horrible. You have beautiful snow scenes and sunshine! . . . . . . Alan
balmesh Thanks Alan , we were lucky with all the snow and a bit of sunshine for a change .
Cracking video Steve, especially the shots at Birkett Common, she was really motoring there. Marvelous to see the Pennines covered in snow and sunlit too. Many thanks for sharing. Cheers, Alan
ragl1 Thanks Alan , she was ten early at Birkett and could be heard for a fair while before she appeared .
Awesome beast. See it regularly at butterley
What a beautiful sight & sound, a dozen bogies. the Shap & 75 yrs old no problem! The princess coronation class had some near rivals, but none superior, many thanks, brr just off for a warm drink!
Thanks Kenneth , it was one of those days when steam and snow are just well worth going out for . My late father remembered the Duchess class taking 16 over the bank with ease . Regards Steve
wow Stephen, 16 bogies, what would the weight be? I have read 2 stories of Princess Coronations that i dont know if you can verify: one that they once had 2 firemen in full swing, but still couldnt get the maximum out of the loco,& that one actually beat Mallards record, but only by 0. 25 mph, so they did not bother to claim it??
Thanks Kenneth , it must have been some time ago as my late father worked at Scout Green in the the 40s so that was when as a norm he would watch the Duchess class romp up with 16 on . I did have ride behind 46233 in 2012 on the support coach and they had two lads firing her that day and they looked done in at Carlisle . Regards Steve
On Duchess of Sutherland, under Captain Kirk!
James Robinson Thanks James , good driver is Mr Kirk I must admit .
In the days of steam, the engines running up Shap were dirty and rusted. Now when steam tackles Shap it looks absolutely pristine.
Thanks Robert , that’s very true as my late father often watched grimy locos go past Scout Green in the early 40s .
I always look forward to your videos..... great shots in beautiful scenery. A belated happy new year!!!
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HughFromAlice Thanks Hugh , the weather was perfect for steam with all the snow plus the roads were drivable .
Stunning work Steve, perfect conditions for capturing the Duchess, and without a Banker! She seemed to be struggling up Shap,was there a reason for that?...Regards..Bob
Robert Masterman Thanks Bob, Ralph sent me a text from the train saying the crew mentioned some sort of brake problem on the train on Shap that slowed 46233 down .
TheStephengthompson
Thanks Steve, that explains it, as she would normally fly up there, even with twelve on...Bob
She conquered it admirably. :-)
Thanks for the very kind comment and very sorry for the late reply . Regards Steve
No problem at all... :-)
Take it you’re going for the flying Scotsman as well
Hi Steve, very good indeed..Dave
***** Cheers Dave , Snow and steam are a great combo .
Hi Steve , very true ,thanks for reply...Dave
Extraordinary that this is possible in 2015. Hats Off to all concerned.
Stephen Smith I agree Stephen , my late father worked the Signal box at Scout Green in the 40s and even he was amazed to see steam over Shap again .
TheStephengthompson
Wow! To have been a signaller on Shap must have been wonderful. The locos he would have seen working hard eh?! Must have made the box shake to the foundations.
Stephen Smith Thank you Stephen , my old man said when he was working the box there would be three steam hauled trains in view from Greenholme all in about 10 mins apart instead of todays Health and Safety crap .
TheStephengthompson
There was a great biography written by a signableman on the Settle and Carlisle but I can't remember the name. I remember him writing that the ionosphere would sometimes set the bells ringing by setting up induction currents in the telegraph wires. One he heard a single 'ting' and had the intuition that a loco was off the rails and had brought down wires. And he was right, setting all the boards to danger preventing disaster. Something told him it wasn't the atmosphere that was playing tricks. He could not say how he knew, he just did!
Could have been low on steam or water, there was no feather at the safety valves on Shap but there was on Ais Gill.
Thanks for the info Ian , a mate of mine was aboard and after chatting with the crew at Carlisle they mentioned a brake problem somewhere on the train hence the slow climb on Shap .
Well done I really was impressed. One quick question what month was that taken. Cheers from Canada.
I often wonder how many times she climbed Shap in a blizzard and white outs. If she has a mind what she makes of the route with the OE.
The fireman would have been hard at work on the ‘blade’❤
hi stephen, lovely shots as ever.....
could i ask a technical question?
on my computer, i could not hear the sound of the loco until about 2.30. i wonder if that was really the case, due to the wind, or if the mike did not pick up the sound, but you yourself could hear it before??
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Thanks John , yes it was just down to the wind direction as my Rode microphone normally picks up any decent sound very early .
Looked quite a slog up Shap, maybe it had been slipping and slowed it down. Couldn't have hoped for better light for the second camera, although pity the wind was the wrong way. Wonderful light on the hills in the last shot too, that cairn or whatever it is on top of the hill in the distance shows up very clearly.
AndreiTupolev Thanks Andrei , I was told there was some sort of brake problem slowing 46233 down on Shap . The wind was in fact blowing easterly when I arrived and annoyingly the wind changed somehow .
I think I can , Great Stuff
Thanks John , much appreciated 👍
5:22 look at the miles of stone fences!
Fabulous footage again Stephen and didn't she sound wonderful on the climb to Shap summit. Just a shame the wind blew down on the last few yards at Shap Wells I had a lovely shot lined up through the tress. Still got a nice one as she went past Salterwath. Lovely footage at Birkett Common with stunning light on the fells. Cheers Simon
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Madge Wildfire Thanks Simon , when I arrived on Shap the wind was blowing easterly so a bit annoying that it changed direction .
Is that one of greslys train's.
Why no Diesel "insurance" on the tail end?
Not sure Nick but perhaps the Duchess didn’t need it with the power they have .
@@TheStephengthompson It's not whether she needed it, but Network Rail regulations require all steam drawn historic trains to have a backup Diesel Loco in case the Steam Loco fails as the local franchise operators don't have the expertise or equipment to link to a historic train.
Thanks Nick , that can’t be correct surely as loads of steam tours run unassisted especially on the S&C with Network rail knowledge.
She makes a grand noise. Matt
MI Rail Thanks Matt , a Duchess in full cry sounds fantastic I must admit.
Soon be that time again Steve, vid well up to standard