FYI the first spring compressor was the right one. the big spoon goes on top of the shock tower not inside of the tower. I just did my 66-mustang front end and used the compressor with no issues. and yes, the springs are a dangerous job! 😮😮😮 but you guys did great good job 👍👍👍👍😃😃😃😃
Working with those springs is really scary. Glad the right tool made it way safer and easier. I was thinking there had to be a better way. In my BMW, it all comes out in one piece and then you use the spring comp to remove it from the strut. Nice video!
Gotta do this same procedure on my ‘74 AMC AMX. Left front coil is broken. Suspension is similar to yours, but the coils are enormous. I ordered a compressor similar to what you used for AMC to make my life simpler and easier. Plus it’s not easy doing this kind of work when you’re 70. Kudos for going the safe route. 😎
@@ElliesGarage removing the shock tower outer cover is the correct procedure to remove the springs with way less obstruction. At the end of your videos you should give an update to what you’re planning to do going forward and people could offer advice which might save you some time and headache. Do you have the OE service manual? I’m glad you finally got a better tool. BTW- those shock towers are not one of Ford’s better ideas.
@@kevinbrown1368 Thanks! We do have the shop manual and the procedure it describes is basically the same idea as using the tool we ended up using in the end. We thought about removing the shock tower cover, but wanted to avoid it if we could. Good call about asking for advice and tips on future projects. Our schedule can be in a bit of flux, and often times by the time a video is posted, we're already working on the next project, but we should keep that in mind for some upcoming projects. Thanks for the advice and help!!
Well done Ellie's Garage. Falcon looks so fine; and on top of that it is a safe car to drive. Glad to see that this spring compression tool worked to your safety and satisfaction. I too am going to make use of this tool as I remove the springs from my daughter's 66 mustang. Ace
I'm guessing the upper and lower control arm bushings needed replacement for you to need to remove those springs. I guess that is the next video as you said. Again , well made and explained video.👍👍
Bless you guys. Springs can be scary until like the Twelfth time you do them. My take is you had it right the first time with that first tool set up. When I do my Torino, Hooks on the bottom of Spring and with a towel underneath that 'Fork' thing goes on top of Tower. You draw the spring up into the tower off of Perch / Upper Arm. You can slowly release or just leave in there and replace upper arm etc. Yes NO power tools on Compressor. Stem threads strip fairly easily. I have Motor Oil with Moly additive mixed in. I think I will add that tool you used to my collection...👍
I know, we always seem to take the hard/wrong road, and that sounds like a REALLY good solution for the spring compressor. You'll definitely love that spring compressor, though. It's SO easy! Thank you for the wisdom and advice!!
Interesting video. I haven't done much with coil springs since my favorite cars don't use any. (60's and 70's Mopars). When I read that there were two types of coil spring compressors, I was thinking they would be "inner" and "outer" but you had two types of inner. The part on a car that scares me most is a different spring. It is the window crank spring. It is like a watch spring. It is said to remove fingers if you don't watch what you are doing. And it is hidden from view so you really can't see it when you work on the window mechanism.
Hey Ellie, the one you use for the first try is the one I used on my Falcon with the same suspension. What I did was put the fork on top of the spring tower. Then used an impact gun to tighten it up. If you try to put the fork under the guard, you need to take the spring shroud out with us a PITAss.
Interesting enough, I used that first spring compressor you used as I rented it from Autozone. I realized it was going to bottom out as well so I actually placed it upside down so the bolt would just go up through the top. The hard part was having to use an open wrench as the only thing that would fit below, so lots of turns, lol.
I used to put a 4 inch metal tube on the second coil compressor and that shortened the travel...It did work but was a scary experience. Last month I got the last coil compressor you were using and still need to open the box...lol
@@ElliesGarage Please stay away from anyone who tells you "Oh I've been doing coil springs for years never had one go wrong yet". Better than that - count how many fingers they've got.
According to my FSM, there is a tool that is supposed to hold the upper control and is needed for this operation. has that procedure been changed so that the tool is no longer used?
I got my coil out on my 67 comet with that same tool, had to cut it too ! But i cheated and put the top hooks over the shock tower, lifted the spring, got the control arm out and then the spring, like you did with the second tool ! (i wish i had it) it felt safer that way i guess. Next summer i have to do it all over again cause i have a bad control arm too. wish me luck haha !
A good safety trick is to drop a heavy chain through the coil spring and wrap it around the inner shock tower, put a bolt thru 2 links. That will contain the coil if something lets loose. I had the treads peeled off the main shaft of the compressor one time. Lesson, grease those threads.
I guess the key is to remove the upper control arm… that allows 😢clearance to re install spring and line it up with tool coming thru top of shock tower…then tighten spring enough to re install upper control arm… but the last tool was best...
May I suggest that in your intro, you might say “we’re learning as we go” instead of “we haven’t done this before” since you have already done so much! Just my two cents, do with it what you will. :) keep up the good work!
Super Cute Dad and Daughter videos but you both could have ben seriously injured. Your bio says you are and doing this "by yourself" but you are not doing it by yourself and you have people financially supporting you as well. You should at least give your Dad all the credit he deserves because he is restoring this car and you are basically the helper and very lucky kid to have a Dad like that. There is a time and place for knowing when you are way out of your league. Perhaps these videos are for entertainment purposes only and that would be consistent with what this video represents; entertainment. Time is more valuable than money. Time is a commodity and you can never get your time back but you can always make more money. The time you wasted in all of your mistakes from the lack of proper research, knowledge, and ability, plus butchering a tool with the cut off wheel is far more valuable than having a professional do the job for you. Why did you not replace those old springs with new springs when you had them out?!! what was the purpose of this spring removal video if you did not replace springs or control arms?!! Total waste of time. You guys also did not even know how to use either the first or second spring compressor at all which would have worked if you used it correctly. There is really only one place to purchase the spring compressor you did successfully use but you failed to mention the vendor who sells them just the person who sent it to you That vendor is based in your home state of Virginia. You did mention some guy with 40 years of experience that did not really help you but just because you have been doing something for 40 years does not make you good at it. WD40 is not a lubricant but a penetrating oil and the instructions for that spring compressor tool clearly say to use grease not oil. you also failed to mention how to properly set the coil spring in the perch with the cut off end of the spring facing the upright tab on the perch and to make sure that upright tab on the porch is on the inside forward side of the car. Perhaps you missed that detail and you installed them incorrectly which now means you might have to do this project all over again which is an even bigger waste of time. Most controls arms have shims on either one or both sides but I did not see any of those on the video and you all did not mention anything about shimming the control arms. Dad mentioned that you guys did your research but I am entirely skeptical of the thoroughness of your your research from this video. Again, totally cute Dad and Daughter stuff but you all do not mention anything about using the Ford Factory Manual which would be your first place to go to for research. There are other very valuable sources for information on RUclips from very professional and experienced Professional Ford Experts(like someone who was Editor and contributor to a printed magazine Publication which is still a valuable resource of information; I have saved all the copies of those magi's I subscribed to- his last name is Ford). Look them up. Acknowledge those who came before you and give them credit without the expectation on payment or reciprocation in some way. You both obviously have scoured the internet for information and having respect for your sources is the foundation of any "journalism", you all aren't just winging it. You want credibility?, then give credit where it is due. You want to be cute and entertaining? Keep trying to lose appendages and waste your time making mistakes when you could be paying a professional to do it right the first time. Not sorry about this and it is not out of anger or malice but simply constructive criticism from someone who is a true DIY Ford person, You could be much better at your video endeavors.
I've done the same job on my 1980 Amc Spirit with basically the same suspension. I used the second type of compresser that you used. Yes it's terrifying but I've done coil springs many times in my 67 years. Great job again Ellie and dad. Where did you get the spring perches?
Oh Jesus I don't think this is the right channel for me and my family so I'm just going to keep on moving this has to be the weirdest most uncomfortable thing on RUclips ever
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"Sometimes things that cost more are meant to make your life safer and easier." Absolutely!
FYI the first spring compressor was the right one. the big spoon goes on top of the shock tower not inside of the tower. I just did my 66-mustang front end and used the compressor with no issues.
and yes, the springs are a dangerous job! 😮😮😮 but you guys did great good job 👍👍👍👍😃😃😃😃
😩 Of course it was. Well, at least now we know. Thank you for sharing your wisdom and thank you for the encouragement!!
Working with those springs is really scary. Glad the right tool made it way safer and easier. I was thinking there had to be a better way. In my BMW, it all comes out in one piece and then you use the spring comp to remove it from the strut. Nice video!
Yes! So much easier!
Love you and you daughter working together.I been working on cars 38 years and it still scares me.
Gotta do this same procedure on my ‘74 AMC AMX. Left front coil is broken. Suspension is similar to yours, but the coils are enormous. I ordered a compressor similar to what you used for AMC to make my life simpler and easier. Plus it’s not easy doing this kind of work when you’re 70. Kudos for going the safe route. 😎
Yeah cutting it works that is exactly what I did for my falcon
Coil springs are definitely scary, great job ya'll. Thanks for the video.
Thanks so much!
Coil springs are dangerous . You needed to remove the coil spring cover first. Great video and great job . Thanks for the video .
Thank you!!
@@ElliesGarage removing the shock tower outer cover is the correct procedure to remove the springs with way less obstruction. At the end of your videos you should give an update to what you’re planning to do going forward and people could offer advice which might save you some time and headache. Do you have the OE service manual? I’m glad you finally got a better tool. BTW- those shock towers are not one of Ford’s better ideas.
@@kevinbrown1368 Thanks! We do have the shop manual and the procedure it describes is basically the same idea as using the tool we ended up using in the end. We thought about removing the shock tower cover, but wanted to avoid it if we could. Good call about asking for advice and tips on future projects. Our schedule can be in a bit of flux, and often times by the time a video is posted, we're already working on the next project, but we should keep that in mind for some upcoming projects. Thanks for the advice and help!!
@@ElliesGarage thanks for thé reply - still enjoying your videos and have learned much from them.
Well done Ellie's Garage. Falcon looks so fine; and on top of that it is a safe car to drive. Glad to see that this spring compression tool worked to your safety and satisfaction. I too am going to make use of this tool as I remove the springs from my daughter's 66 mustang. Ace
I'm guessing the upper and lower control arm bushings needed replacement for you to need to remove those springs. I guess that is the next video as you said. Again , well made and explained video.👍👍
Great video.. front coils are definitely a scary job
Thank you! Yes!! So scary!!
Bless you guys. Springs can be scary until like the Twelfth time you do them. My take is you had it right the first time with that first tool set up. When I do my Torino, Hooks on the bottom of Spring and with a towel underneath that 'Fork' thing goes on top of Tower. You draw the spring up into the tower off of Perch / Upper Arm. You can slowly release or just leave in there and replace upper arm etc. Yes NO power tools on Compressor. Stem threads strip fairly easily. I have Motor Oil with Moly additive mixed in. I think I will add that tool you used to my collection...👍
I know, we always seem to take the hard/wrong road, and that sounds like a REALLY good solution for the spring compressor. You'll definitely love that spring compressor, though. It's SO easy! Thank you for the wisdom and advice!!
A stack of washers on the top would work also instead of cutting it
😳 Well, now I feel really dumb. 😂
That sounds like a MUCH better idea. Well, now we know for next time. Thank you!
BEST team work I've eve seem between Grease Gurl & dad ! 😁
thanks so much!!
Interesting video. I haven't done much with coil springs since my favorite cars don't use any. (60's and 70's Mopars). When I read that there were two types of coil spring compressors, I was thinking they would be "inner" and "outer" but you had two types of inner.
The part on a car that scares me most is a different spring. It is the window crank spring. It is like a watch spring. It is said to remove fingers if you don't watch what you are doing. And it is hidden from view so you really can't see it when you work on the window mechanism.
ive worked with razor wire in the army, you can lay a thick moving quilt over the assembly before taking the pressure off the spring
Hey Ellie, the one you use for the first try is the one I used on my Falcon with the same suspension. What I did was put the fork on top of the spring tower. Then used an impact gun to tighten it up. If you try to put the fork under the guard, you need to take the spring shroud out with us a PITAss.
Also, looks like new upper suspension arms. I took mine out to replace the spring.
Great tip! Thanks!!
Yep! While we were doing the springs we completely replaced the front suspension. That's next week's video.
@@ElliesGarage good luck with it, I saw you got a better spring compressor. Yeah I ripped out all of mine and replaced it.
Great video. I am Happy for You's to Help Me. You Honestly explianed that better then most Pro's. 💙💚❤
Interesting enough, I used that first spring compressor you used as I rented it from Autozone. I realized it was going to bottom out as well so I actually placed it upside down so the bolt would just go up through the top. The hard part was having to use an open wrench as the only thing that would fit below, so lots of turns, lol.
Great idea!
Great job girl
I used to put a 4 inch metal tube on the second coil compressor and that shortened the travel...It did work but was a scary experience. Last month I got the last coil compressor you were using and still need to open the box...lol
Definitely scary. You're going to love using it. So easy!!
After 40+ years of working on cars I agree, it ALWAYS scares me.
Right?! Glad to know it's not just me. Thanks!!
@@ElliesGarage Please stay away from anyone who tells you "Oh I've been doing coil springs for years never had one go wrong yet". Better than that - count how many fingers they've got.
why didn't you take the spring covers off?
Popping the upper ball joint makes the job a lot easier.
Good tip!
According to my FSM, there is a tool that is supposed to hold the upper control and is needed for this operation. has that procedure been changed so that the tool is no longer used?
I got my coil out on my 67 comet with that same tool, had to cut it too ! But i cheated and put the top hooks over the shock tower, lifted the spring, got the control arm out and then the spring, like you did with the second tool ! (i wish i had it) it felt safer that way i guess. Next summer i have to do it all over again cause i have a bad control arm too. wish me luck haha !
A good safety trick is to drop a heavy chain through the coil spring and wrap it around the inner shock tower, put a bolt thru 2 links. That will contain the coil if something lets loose. I had the treads peeled off the main shaft of the compressor one time. Lesson, grease those threads.
Great tips! Thank you!!
Very Intresse Video with a hard Fight Love the bomb is defuse with the right Tool the Job is perfect ❤️👍❤️
What bushings you used you didn't show which one you went with
I've never used and kind of spring compressor that's ever worked well
I can imagine. If you have old Ford shock towers, try this last one we used. Really, it made it SO EASY!
I guess the key is to remove the upper control arm… that allows 😢clearance to re install spring and line it up with tool coming thru top of shock tower…then tighten spring enough to re install upper control arm… but the last tool was best...
May I suggest that in your intro, you might say “we’re learning as we go” instead of “we haven’t done this before” since you have already done so much! Just my two cents, do with it what you will. :) keep up the good work!
That's a REALLY good suggestion! Thank you!!
I'm VERY surprised you haven't converted to power front disc brakes yet
That's going to be coming soon!
VERY SCARY!!! THOSE COIL SPRINGS ..R... UNDER A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PRESSURE!! ONE WRONG MOVE AND THEY'LL SHOOT OUT LIKE A UNGUIDED MISSLE!!!!
Right?! Scary!
@@ElliesGarage DAMN RIGHT!!! NOTHIN 2 FOOL AROUND WITH!!!!
If going through the trouble of removing old coil springs why didn't you install with new coil springs?Why waste time reinstalling worn coil springs?
Custom made tools and nobody lost eyes or teeth I call it a win! I
Thanks!!
If you put the upper claws at 90° to the lower claws it won’t slip and get skewed.
That's a GREAT tip!! Thanks!!
@@ElliesGarage no worries, I’m waiting on my own new springs before I have my own near death experience!! 😁
ur better off getting a whole new assembly..
you dont know if thos springs are still ok....
Super Cute Dad and Daughter videos but you both could have ben seriously injured. Your bio says you are and doing this "by yourself" but you are not doing it by yourself and you have people financially supporting you as well. You should at least give your Dad all the credit he deserves because he is restoring this car and you are basically the helper and very lucky kid to have a Dad like that. There is a time and place for knowing when you are way out of your league. Perhaps these videos are for entertainment purposes only and that would be consistent with what this video represents; entertainment. Time is more valuable than money. Time is a commodity and you can never get your time back but you can always make more money. The time you wasted in all of your mistakes from the lack of proper research, knowledge, and ability, plus butchering a tool with the cut off wheel is far more valuable than having a professional do the job for you. Why did you not replace those old springs with new springs when you had them out?!! what was the purpose of this spring removal video if you did not replace springs or control arms?!! Total waste of time. You guys also did not even know how to use either the first or second spring compressor at all which would have worked if you used it correctly. There is really only one place to purchase the spring compressor you did successfully use but you failed to mention the vendor who sells them just the person who sent it to you That vendor is based in your home state of Virginia. You did mention some guy with 40 years of experience that did not really help you but just because you have been doing something for 40 years does not make you good at it. WD40 is not a lubricant but a penetrating oil and the instructions for that spring compressor tool clearly say to use grease not oil. you also failed to mention how to properly set the coil spring in the perch with the cut off end of the spring facing the upright tab on the perch and to make sure that upright tab on the porch is on the inside forward side of the car. Perhaps you missed that detail and you installed them incorrectly which now means you might have to do this project all over again which is an even bigger waste of time. Most controls arms have shims on either one or both sides but I did not see any of those on the video and you all did not mention anything about shimming the control arms. Dad mentioned that you guys did your research but I am entirely skeptical of the thoroughness of your your research from this video. Again, totally cute Dad and Daughter stuff but you all do not mention anything about using the Ford Factory Manual which would be your first place to go to for research. There are other very valuable sources for information on RUclips from very professional and experienced Professional Ford Experts(like someone who was Editor and contributor to a printed magazine Publication which is still a valuable resource of information; I have saved all the copies of those magi's I subscribed to- his last name is Ford). Look them up. Acknowledge those who came before you and give them credit without the expectation on payment or reciprocation in some way. You both obviously have scoured the internet for information and having respect for your sources is the foundation of any "journalism", you all aren't just winging it. You want credibility?, then give credit where it is due. You want to be cute and entertaining? Keep trying to lose appendages and waste your time making mistakes when you could be paying a professional to do it right the first time. Not sorry about this and it is not out of anger or malice but simply constructive criticism from someone who is a true DIY Ford person, You could be much better at your video endeavors.
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I've done the same job on my 1980 Amc Spirit with basically the same suspension. I used the second type of compresser that you used. Yes it's terrifying but I've done coil springs many times in my 67 years. Great job again Ellie and dad. Where did you get the spring perches?
Thank you!
They are Scott Drake perches from Holley:
www.holley.com/products/restoration/suspension/components/parts/C4DZ-3388-RI
Oh Jesus I don't think this is the right channel for me and my family so I'm just going to keep on moving this has to be the weirdest most uncomfortable thing on RUclips ever
Fantastic work! Do they make a 3 hook spring compressor? Seems like with 2 it’s much more dangerous…?