WWF WrestleMania the Arcade game Definitive Analysis | 32X Genesis Dos Saturn PSX SNES Comparison.
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- Опубликовано: 11 сен 2024
- Episode 60 - WWF WrestleMania the Arcade game. This video looks at the changes in circumstances that allowed this game to be game. What about the game, what's the best version and why? The Definitive Analysis is a look at all these things and more to showcase what versions are worth playing. We will take an in-depth look at the SNES, Genesis, Saturn, PSX, Dos, and 32X releases.
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Retro Impressions
NBA JAM BOOK
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Some Sources referred to when creating this video.
1. Ted DiBiase - The Million Dollar Man
2. Wrestling Deregulated - NYT Feb 10th, 1989
3. Owen Hart Death - www.cnn.com/US/...
4. Stossel Thinking about lawsuit - NYT Feb 32 1985
5. Payment -Myths, Lies and Downright Stupidity:
Get Out the Shovel - Why Everything You Know is Wrong by John Stossel
6. The Odessa American July 1st, 1969
7. The Odessa American July 3rd, 1969
8. Sioux City Journal July 3rd, 1969
9. The Montreal Gazette Feb 21st, 1989
10. www.onlineworld...
Segments were used from the following videos.
• 1977 Sgt Slaughter vs ...
• WWF Champion Diesel on...
• The Creepy, Insane, Ri...
• Video
• Ted Dibiase goes out t...
• Video
• Video
• wrestler smacks reporter
#WWFWrestlemaniaTheArcadeGame
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Hey! You made it down to the comment section. If you care to, I would love to hear about some of your favorite wrestlers / and or stories. Thanks again for watching. -Shaun
I think my favourite wrestler of all time is AJ Styles, but Dean Ambrose and Undisputed Era are a close second and third respectively. Back in the day it was Bret Hart, no contest.
Favorite Wrestlemania moment: 2 way tie:
Andre the Giant vs Hulk Hogan WM3! &
Macho Man Randy Savage(R.I.P.) vs Ricky "the Dragon" Steamboat WM3 (stole the show)!!
Favorite Wrestler is tough, so many good ones!
Top 7: Hulk Hogan (of course), Macho Man Randy Savage(R.I.P.), Rowdy Roddy Piper, Bret "The Hitman" Hart, & "Latino Heat" Eddie Guerrero (R.I.P.), CM Punk (Wish he come back, WWE sucks now), last but never least "Mick Foley" (any character he played)!!!
Jenovi - Whose theme is that at the 2:00 mark???
Mr Perfect :D
The year was 1995, I was turning 8 in a few short months. At one of my regular weekend visits to the local arcade, there was a new machine in the "fighting game" section, and it happened to be WWF Wrestlemania. Despite my age, I had been raised on Mortal Kombat by my older brother and his friends, who were nearly 10 years older than me. I had come to be quite competitive with them, often winning with a come-from-behind, 3rd round, low health finish. I had to wait to try the new WWF game, as there was a line of about 4 people waiting to get a chance to topple the dude who had been on a win streak for quite some time. I watched closely and noticed the reason the guy seemed unbeatable, he was using moves I was familiar with from my MK training. I finally got the chance to test my skill against the reigning champ, and put my favorite wrestler at the time, Razor Ramon, up against his Shawn Michaels. I lost the first round, but I managed to get his health passed the halfway point. The second round I barely managed a victory, it was super close. Round 3, all or nothing. I had figured out Razor's "nobody messes with the bad guy" move, where he grabs his opponent by the ankles and precedes to slam them like he was beating dust out of an old rug. I felt the adrenaline kick in, palms sweaty and nerves near breaking point. I whooped his ass so hard that third round that I nearly had a flawless victory, he only was able to hit me twice before I was able to secure a pin. I had to pin him twice, as he had gotten a second wind on the first pinfall. I somehow found a way to use that combo meter that had been built up all round, and soon, victory was in my hands. I had knocked the champ off of his throne! He asked for a rematch, which I quickly lost due to getting overconfident and losing my burst of adrenaline at the same time. The people around the machine still gave me props for hanging in there "with the big kids" though, and to this day, this remains one of my favorite (and most vivid) memories of hanging out at the local arcade in the 90s.
Thanks for the video and bringing this memory back to the forefront of my mind, those were great days to be a gamer!
Saturn is a 2D powerhouse. That's what is was made for.
Always makes me happy when the 32X comes up well in these comparsions :) I do love an underdog
Acclaim also stole Midway's Mortal Kombat mechanics for Batman Forever. Always puzzled me why they attacked a partner they had made millions from like that. :S
But I suspect the reason why the SNES version is so bad is because Nintendo were charging crazy prices for RAM chips at the time, so Acclaim squeezed the game into a 24 megabit cartridge, rather than 32 like games were heading for at the time to save money.
Makes me want to do a video covering the fall out between Midway and Acclaim. PS. you're spot on about the SNES cart size. It's 24 meg.
@@Jenovi Absolutely, that would make a great video. Lots of backstabbing going there from Acclaim, confused me too as I thought NBA JAM Extreme WAS the sequel to NBA JAM T.E. as a kid, had no knowledge of the Hangtime series... Do you know what size the Genesis/Mega Drive cart was out of curiosity?
Also, I swear I read somewhere that Doink was chosen over Nash simply because they wanted colourful characters in the game. Though its bizarre why Diesel wasn't a boss Etc.
I chatted with Sal DiVita a bit, but he's very... very slow to return messages. It's the one big question I also had but didn't get an answer too beyond it was not their choice, but done at the request of the WWF. I'm also with you feeling the lack of a boss is a little deflating at the end. Anyways, both the MD cart and 32X are 32mb. I always enjoy seeing what programs can achieve across two different platforms with the same file size constraints.
I don't understand how they stole from such a great game and ended up making one of the worst Batman games ever. Imagine if it played like Batman Returns on SNES, with move sets like Mortal Kombat instead.
@@Jenovi please do I want to know more about what happened.Btw I subscribed. Keep up the good work
This is one of those games that makes me wish a 3DO port had been created. I imagine it would fall somewhere between the PSX version and the Saturn version. I think the hardware would have been well capable of a good port, though I wonder if the 5-button controller would suffice or not.
Also, awesome shoutout to Whang, I love his channel and his video about the endings of the characters in this game was both hilarious and surprising. It's a definite must-watch for anyone with any kind of interest in this game.
Great video, I love these comparisons. I can't get enough of them. I'm still working my way through all of your content but I'm enjoying every minute of it. You have a great knack for in-depth analysis and attention to detail while not becoming bogged down on minutia. The best way I can describe it is like this: suppose RUclips reviews were a thing back when these games were new, instead of magazines. Your platform comparisons are literally the exact type of thing that I think all of us would have loved to watch back then.
I get the feeling you had the same kind of passion for games that I did back then, except you owned Sega consoles while I owned Nintendo. I always envied the Sega owners despite the fact that I loved my Nintendo consoles. Back then I would have killed to have it all, but luckily now I can! It actually makes these platform comparisons all the more interesting, as sure, I can buy whatever version I want, but with so many options available it's nice to see detailed analysis to get a good idea of what version might suit me best so that I don't have to spend a whole lot of time to figure it out for myself.
And sometimes it's actually fun to go back and experience the same games on different platforms, just to see what they were like. I've been contemplating my next console purchase. I already own a model 1 Genesis and a Saturn, but I've been really craving a Sega CD and/or 32X (the 32X is a must purchase for me, I WILL own one at some point). I already own a Dreamcast, which I got new at launch and was my first Sega console, and a Saturn that luckily fell into my hands for the outstanding price of nothing (including a bunch of games and 2 Stunners, no less), but I'd love to get a Mega SG, although that doesn't work with the 32X. And then there's the Mega SD which FPGA emulates the Sega CD hardware, sign me up. Decisions, decisions. Either way, my next delve into older console hardware is definitely leaning heavily towards Sega CD and 32X.
Sorry for the wall of text, this video sent my brain off on a tangent.
I feel like this video should’ve included a paid sponsorship disclaimer since you’ve clearly been purchased by the million dollar man lol. Great review/analysis. Can confirm, the SNES version was garbage.
It's almost shameful to think I would accept money for the Million Dollar Man. For someone like him, you do the promo for free!
@@Jenovi everybody has a price!
No the SNES version was good but it didn't have bam bam and yokozuna
HicksZ34 you are absolutely right the arcade always had the better graphics but at home it was good enough to play all day with my brother and friends I miss those days and I loved turtles in time I beat that game alot
@@heffnermichael His price is the chance to do a promo for the Million Dollar Man!
I own the 32X version and love it despite the 30fps. I would put it above the Saturn version for the simple fact that when the game gets busy with more characters to fight, the crowd doesn’t animate or move on the Saturn at all, meanwhile on the 32X, they still get up and cheer and move. I feel that really adds to the atmosphere and game. Just a personal preference though.
Ted DaBiasi was by far one of the greatest heels ever
An amazing character !
I got a Sega Genesis. So I look forward to getting this game again. I use to have it for 32x and before that enjoyed it in the arcade, it was everywhere. fun.
The Genesis version is still fun, it's just that slowdown during the final match.
I have it and I love it, it's definitely a wrist and thumb hurting after awhile kinda game but worth it
RUclips recommended this video. Glad I watched it. I remember playing this game at the movie theaters whenever it came out. Miss the 90’s. Liked and subscribed!!!!!!!
Very happy to have you on board!
Ironic that the Excellence of Execution is the one demonstrating the SNES version's total lack of execution. :)
So happy to see someone take note.
I missed the WWF when it was good in the 90's and mid 2000's 😀😁
Me too
WWF was golden in the 80's. The 90's and 2000's killed it.
Just found your channel and have been binge watching videos all morning. I love your definitive analysis videos and I'm really happy to see a content creator who loves the 32x as much as I do. I remember being a kid in the 90s and having the best version of certain games because I had a 32x and my friends didn't. I collect for the system now and the only game I don't have is Spiderman Web of Fire. I think the system is much better than people give it credit for and often wonder what games could have been made if Sega didn't drop support for it so soon after release. Keep up the good work. I'm definitely a fan.
Thank you for the very kind comment. I'm working on a large documentary at the moment, but once that wraps I'll be back to Unreleased and Definitive Analysis covering more 32X material. Best of luck getting Web of Fire, it's really went up in price the last few years. I don't feel it's the hardest to find though, so that's a plus. I feel rather strong as stated in my Why did Sega fail video killing the 32X was a major knee jerk reaction and mistake.
Yeah I have a complete collection for the 32x as well minus Web of Fire because I couldn't turn down selling it for such a massive profit last year considering I picked it up on clearance. Makes me glad nowadays that I loved the 32x in the 90s, cause I have stuff like 2 unopened World Series 95s as well as a complete one since when I was grabbing all of the rest of the US releases I didn't have yet in 96/97 for just please take this prices I noticed WSB95 was not at nearly as many stores as the others, and that includes Spiderman. I'm pretty sure I only ever saw WSB 95 in 2 stores total, with Web of Fire appearing semi-regularly, just in low numbers at the locations that had it, so I just figured they must've barely pushed it out since it would be cheap to port or something. Also splurging on DarXide and FIFA 96 in 98 was so much more economical than if I had to nowadays, I mean FIFA was $6 brand new on some website, wish I got more of them haha.
Just for the record I collected for the 32x to play it, which is why I got rid of Web of Fire as it's one of the few games on the console that I can definitively say I'll be happy to never play again, it's just so bad. The only other game for it that I really never have an itch to play is BC Racers as it is the only other game for the platform I feel is just prohibitively not fun to play, but there isn't such a massive incentive to get rid of it like there was for a game I picked up for 7.99 that's now worth hundreds.
Another excellent review! I have the 32X version and love it! Also, this is a side note but in this age of digital distribution, it is so nice to have a physical copy of something.
It's my preferred version TBH.
I tecently found your channel and have enjoyed it alot. I jave been watching videos for the last 5 to 7 hrs. Very good style...camt belive i just watcjed a video about wwf...lmao your so easy to listen to. Cant wait for more awesome deep dive!! U were an instant sub my dude. Keep pimpin. U are why game journalism has not died...its up to u an the other good utubers to teach how it was to the young bloods comin up...and i thank you for ur hard work. Cheers!!!
Thank you for the very kind words!!
It's actually 'pseudo-blood', not 'sudo blood'. It's amazing how far DOS went; the graphics on 'Castlevania' were worse than the Nintendo Entertainment System version, and now it has better graphics than the Sega Saturn version. The benefit of a platform spanning multiple devices and consequent hardware updates.
..... whoops. Great catch.
@@Jenovi also, european mega drive version had that pseudo blood with all the flying junk. i'm guessing that it's some kind of censorship situation similar to blood in snes mortal kombat.
RIP YOKOZUNA, BAM BAM AND MATT BORNE- DOINK THE CLOWN !!
NBA jam is needed in the world now
BRUCE ASKEW it exists, it’s called NBA Playgrounds and it’s good
Razzle dazzle
The android version is great it's graphics are updated and it has controller support. Put it on a streaming box and bam new jams on the tv with Bluetooth controller.
The music on the arcade version of this game is stellar...Were you playing a rom via Mame? I had the original arcade cabinet and boardset for years; it's perfect...Kind of hard to watch the rest of your review when you didn't even have the original PCB to review...
I wasn't talking about about the quality, it's in regard to the very short looped samples and how seldom the theme music plays. The quality is great, the use of it in game is questionable IMO.
@@Jenovi Yeah, well it's a PCB with sound roms...You couldn't expect full 4 minute long theme songs for each guy; just wouldn't be possible back then unless they added a 2nd sound board, like MK2. Wrestlemania has 1 PCB...They did a fantastic job IMO; it's a better game than Wrestlefest after all these years IMO.
I loved this game as a kid when I saw it in the arcade i about had a heart attack because I was sooo excited
Awesome video. I had to watch it twice just to soak in all that amazing history. I grew up with this era of the WWF. It was a great time to be a fan of Pro Wrestling.
It's amazing watching the old stuff. Those guys were dang good.
Great retrospective and comparison. I have the 32x version waiting for me on my backlog. Looks like fun.
Please tell me you aren’t still doing hack jobs on consoles
I pumped a lot of quarters into this game when I was a kid.
Me too
I've got every version but can't play the dos because.... It's dos lol. Favorite is Genesis. Saturn and psx takes to long to load for too short of a game.
Love the cowboy outfit/background guy!
Ah, thanks amigo. That's just me though.
R.I.P MEAN GENE! The best straight man in history.
Mean Gene was awesome. I must of watched 100 hours of old interviews, vignettes, and matches for this video. Not because I needed to, but because I was drawn in but just how good everything and everyone was.
@@Jenovi
Mean Gene with Macho Man is legendary shit. LOL
I have fond memories of my first pay per view purchase, WrestleMania 1.
RIP Howard Finkle too
We freaking LOVE wrestling!! Especially old wrestling, that was the best! This game is so iconic and we have it on display on our wrestling shelf :)
It's so hard to pick just one favorite wrestler but we love Bret Hart, Macho Man, Ultimate Warrior, Jake The Snake, HBK, Razor Ramon just to name a few! Also, we get to meet Ted Dibiase next weekend at the Midwest Gaming Classic and I'm so excited!!
This game take me back and remembering the best eras of WWF/WWE ever circa mid 80s to early 2000s. My friends and I would come over almost everyday playing this on PS1. Memories! Thanks!
I feel like you baited me here with video game history and now now 5 minutes later I know more about wrestling than I ever have
🤣🤣🤣 It's the start of my new series that promotes the Million Dollar Man.
I would stick with the 32X and MS DOS versions because they are closer to the arcade version.
I really dig the 32X version. For me personally, it's most likely the one I will play in the future.
@@Jenovi And as for WWF In Your House, I recommend the MS DOS port of the game because the PS1 and Saturn ports have load times. Plus, in WWF In Your House, there is an option in the game where you can turn the in-game power-ups on and off. That way the game can be a true sequel to WWF WrestleMania: The Arcade Game. Because in WrestleMania: The Arcade Game, there were no power-ups.
Awesome recommendation. I appreciate it.
@@Jenovi WWF WrestleMania: The Arcade Game for the Sega 32X is best played with a 6-Button Sega Genesis controller or the Sega Genesis 6-Button arcade stick controller.
This is quality content. Keep up the great work; I'll be watching.
Thank you.
I wish the 32X got to hang around long enough for its full potential to hit, it would have been nice to see what they could do because the rushed games turned out pretty good. Or.. At least hung around enough till Capcom's AVP came out 😂
100%
6:55 - He didn't? TWO Doinks appeared at Wrestlemania 9, and at Wrestlemania 10 he wrestling in a mix tag match with Bigelow. Plus since Doink was the most "gimmicky" character, it wasn't that difficult to assume he was included to appeal to non-WWF Viewers at the time.
As for Diesel, The game was developed in roughly mid 1993 - Nash was barely an active wrestler at that time. The game had a longer development cycle - so sure, when it was released more than a year later, Nash was champion, but they couldn't go back and change all that work. (Unlike the simple change of giving Undertaker Purple gloves). The Arcade Game came into Arcades in the Fall of 1994, Nash wouldn't win the WWF Title until Thanksgiving weekend of that year.
Thanks for the comment. I'm referencing WMXI and XII. Looking at the final build date in the bios for the arcade release we can see it's Mid 1995 (I think July) so it clearly released in the Summer of '95. These games typically had a development cycle of fewer than 12 months. According to Sal DiVita (head designer of the game), the WWF made the decision on who would appear in the game.
@@Jenovi In addition, methinks that the motion-capture sessions for this game occurred much earlier, perhaps early-to mid-1994. All of the wrestlers' attires and theme songs date to Wrestlemania X (1994), with the exception of Shawn Michaels who has the circa-1992 rendition of his theme song.
You're laying it on really thick. Even as a little kid in this era I knew it was a show - I don't know anyone that truly believed it was real. Now NWA, that looked real, but WWF, with it's cartoon version of wrestling, no one thought it was real, they just enjoyed booing bad guys and cheering good guys. Except for me, dressed up like little Joe Dirt, cheering on the Million Dollar Man and Rick Rude.
Saturn version is superb, and I enjoyed the 32x, and Genesis versions as well. I do remember buying a used copy of the Genesis version at a Blockbuster many years ago and that I think was the first time I played it. That was a fun experience. At that time I dont think I had played any other version. I still own that exact copy today.😊👍
Nice!
1995 WAS A GREAT YEAR FOR GAMES!!! #GreatVid 🏆
MrCalverino - Yep! Specifically the Super Nintendo with all it’s great games!
@@NYCJoeBlack 3D was the big jump 😃
MrCalverino - What is the name of that theme at the 2:00 mark?
@@NYCJoeBlack 🤔 I'm beat 😀
MrCalverino - “I’m Beat” is the name of the wrestling theme?
Wow, ive seen that slap but had no idea it was John Stossel. That man is a legend.
As someone fascinated with ports of games running on hardware they have no business being on, I gotta say I actually love the Genesis port, and it may be my favorite home version. It runs well, sounds good, looks fine for the Genesis and it has all of the characters and moves (except Taker's fatality of course).
I don't think Sculptured Software was a particularly creative group of game devs. Most of their own stuff is mediocre at best, like their WWF quadrilogy you talked about in another video. Lazy graphics, uninspired gameplay... They made cheap products on time for cheap publishers.
But given good ressources, I do believe they did some good work. The Genesis version of Wrestlemania Arcade is great in my opinion, and If I remember correctly they faithfully ported other good Midway games to consoles. They also did Tecmo Super NBA Basketball. While it's not nearly as good as Tecmo Super Bowl, they must have given a good template and support because it's still very playable and hits a high quality mark for NES sports sims in general.
I think you nailed it. Nothing groundbreaking, but solid, passionless games.
Really like this video.... oh and I would take a slap for half a million
Anyone worth their salt would.
Birth of the dial-a-combo..
And the "Attitude" era wouldn't have happened without the influence of ECW.
I think there's a 5-6 button press combo that nets 18 hits. What's not to love about that?
@@Jenovi The dial-a-combo was fine for this game, with its exaggerated & kayfabe characters, but later incorporating it into MK3 with the addition of a run button was made of 100% fail IMO.
Doink the Clown was actually at the Mania prior to the game's release for this year. At WrestleMania 10 in 1994, he teamed with Dink to face Luna Vachon and Bam Bam Bigelow. It may have been Ray Apollo instead of Matt Bourne under the costume, but it was still the Doink character.
Whoops.... I might not have mentioned the games release date. It was mid/late '95. It's WM XI and XII that released before and after. The situation you brought up makes it even odder. It's something I forgot about when writing this script. TBH I was never a Doink fan though.
Jenovi Oh okay, I thought you meant the previous year's pay per view (WM X) and the following year (WM XII). I get what you were saying now. The babyface Doink character was not my favorite, but I did enjoy evil heel Doink, as Matt Bourne, who was a great wrestler -RIP. He had an awesome Summerslam 1993 match/segment in the Jerry Lawler/Bret Hart storyline.
The heel version had layers, while the face Doink was just there for the kiddies.
Many weekends enjoyed with this game
Absolutely love your vids. Finished them all yesterday and was bummed I ran out. Then I got surprised with this one. Great job.
Thanks! You might be the first to publicly state you've seen them all. It's rather flattering my friend.
@@Jenovi i usually watch your vids when exercising during my free time. Good stuff.
I don’t know yet. Should I buy it for the Saturn or the 32X. I have both systems. The 32X costs way more online, then the other versions. The Saturn version is going for around $40 to $50.00. The 32X version is better, but is going for over $100 to $200 or higher on EBay, which is expensive!
What did you end up doing? For me, I’d get the 32X one. For others, I might recommend an overdrive.
@@Jenovi I got the 32X version. There’s some great games on there. 👍
I played the shit out of this game when I was 11.
Another awesome and well put together video! I loved the Million Dollar Man stuff. I wasn't expecting it!
So happy to hear you loved that part. I was nervous about how it might be received.
I know nothing about wrestling, so I had no idea that the inclusion of Doink the Clown was weird. I just knew that it was bloody hilarious that I could play as a clown, and picked up the game.
Undertaker's fatality is allegedly in only the Genesis port and Arcade. Give it a shot.
I'll have to check it out. I kind of suck at pulling this stuff off though.
amazing review , plz continue , thanks for the hard work
Thanks Josph, appreciate the feedback and kind words.
You deserve so, so many more subscribers, my man. Your in-depth style is welcome, and exactly the kind of content I look for, as longer RUclips videos relevant to my interests have altogether replaced television. That includes your channel as of yesterday (new sub here). Keep it up!
Also, some of my favorite wrestlers past and present are Macho Man, Ted DiBiase (so glad you had a mini retrospective on him!), Sting, Stone Cold, AJ Styles, Goldberg, Kevin Nash, Trish Stratus, Lita, Jericho...man the list is long. I seriously think Jericho is the GOAT, though. He constantly reinvents himself and only gets more popular every time. Sorry for rambling lol
I really try to not make them so long, but It's easy to get carries away. Super happy to have you on board. I'm in the same boat where RUclips accounts for about 90% of my video entertainment. Can't disagree with anyone you mentioned wrestling wise. Jericho is one of the few I follow on twitter. I've more recently been bing watching Keven Nash shoot interviews. Man, that guy is a great story teller.
The RKO is the most powerful move.
I just went to wikipedia to see the 8 playable characters from the game.Man, 5 or 6 of them are now dead :(
Dont worry, Undertaker is still alive(immortal ?)
RIP to the fallen ones and thank you for providing kids with a very fun childhood memories! May you continue to kick ass in those games for ever :)
One of the best games ..addictive games on snes.. played it way too much that I got used to the slowdown. Flow and in the zone.
That’s awesome!
Love the LJN WWF figures on the top of the Primetime desk!
I love this game so much back in the day. Long-ass combos for the wind
I love the promo tape " hit these 5 buttons for a 20 hit combo".
Another win for SEGA! Great video, as always!
Sega should make a new console.
for me
1. arcade (only bad thing is that no run button )
2. 32X
3. MD
Great video, I stumbled across this vid and wasn't quite ready for the professional quality involved!
I grew up with the Genesis version (definitely had the pseudo-blood!). It was hilarious for me to see the footage from the Arcade version and go "ah, exactly as I remember it!" only to see the Genesis footage soon after and be VERY confused. xD
Odd that the Saturn version is "better" than the original Arcade. I suppose it has slight differences that come down to preference and it certainly would be more accessible IRL.
Realistically speaking, you either want the Arcade/Saturn/DOS version for the true experience (with PS1 being slightly inferior) and the 32X version if you want the more chiptune sounds and stylized visuals.
Good Video, very good commentary, thank you dear Sir :)
Thanks Mike, I appreciate the feedback. I was nervous people might not like this one.
I remember downloading the DOS version from Abandonware sites as a kid. Being a huge wrestling fan it was definitely was one of my favorites.
Adam Bomb was going to be in the arcade version as a hidden character, but was scrapped for unknown reasons. There’s photos out there of him on the set with the Midway guys. One of them confirmed later that Bomb did exist in the arcade version but that he was so incomplete he wasn’t worth trying to find. I don’t think he’s present in any of the arcade roms out there now, though. Someone would have found the coding by now.
On the playstation version when you lose and go back to character select screen, the wrestler that beat you will have their theme playing. Thats the only time ive heard their music 9:21
The million dollar man was an all time legend of a heel, and Dibiase played it to perfection.
Quality video Jenovi, love the level of detail you go into.
Thanks bud. Can't express how happy I am to see you back online.
@@Jenovi haha! Nice one. I know it's a lot of work but your long form definitive analyses are a great series man.
Damn I mastered this game for all systems even in the arcade I remember beating this with one token especially with Bret I miss these days they should make another game like this with a lot more wrestlers
loved this game even though my love for the WWF was very short lived. I first this game 9 years ago for my Saturn but recently bought the PS1 version when i saw it super cheap on ebay, still haven't got round to playing it yet but this video has really piqued my interest so i'm actually going to give it a go in around 5 minutes time.
P.s. Another great video mate, really liking the content ive seen so far, i'll have to check out some of your earlier stuff at some point.
I wouldn't go to early :D . I appreciate you checking out what I'm doing. Playing the PSX release after all the others (it was the last one I played for this video) I was wondering if maybe there was an extra setting and I toggled off the music. Nope. Still good fun.
lol. I played the PS1 port for half an hour last night and got a fair bit of enjoyment out of it, i'll have to go back to the Saturn version now so i can fully appreciate the differences myself.
I think they deleted the music on the PSX for perfomance reasons. It also runs great on certain lower end hardware compared to the Arcade and other versions.
Good video Jenovi. I have the PSX version and it's not been played for over 2 decades. Lol
I have many games in that category.
Definitive Analysis indeed! You sir have earned a sub, like, and comment :D Bravo!
😆 thank you.
Great video. Love how in depth it was, although wasn't that Mr Perfects music you were playing during the Million Dollar Man's history?
Thank you! Yes and no. I used Mr. Perfects theme up to the point that he becomes the Million Dollar Man (about the 3 minute mark), then it's the MDM theme from there. Absolutely loved Curt Henning and wanted to make sure he got a nod or two in my video.
Capture took place in '94 and the roster reflex that despite being released in '95
Is that Earthworm Jim music in the background at the beginning of this video? If so, which rendition is it?
It's from EWJ2 second stage Mega Drive version. I tend to use it along with a handful of other songs often in my videos.
I liked 80s pro wrestling, before over half of the program was drama. The people in pro wrestling are athletes, but if I want to see people hurt each other, I watch boxing.
If I found out boxing wasn't real, I think I'd go off somewhere and cry.
😂 Such a great comment.
DiBiase never crowned himself King. In fact, he presented Randy Savage with a scepter at his coronation when he became King.
I didn't mean literally king, just champion in his own mind. To be fair, he did win King of the Ring in '88. What a great tournament.
Jenovi that was Hacksaw Jim Dugan! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jenovi I’m teasing you, bro lol
I am willing to bet that Undertaker was not really standing there in the beginning promo. It was probably a a stand in most likely. If they told Taker your gonna just stand there say nothing while Paul does a video game promo and you will be in pitch black nobody will even see you! He would be like and then "So I need to be there why?" Lol
I remember one skit million dollar man told a kid he was gonna give him like 1k if he dribbled a basketball 10x and he kicked it away on the 9th dribble ...shit was so funny 😂
I remember that! Great skit.
Jenovi Ted was great .I hated seeing him delegated to a background act in wcw
Maybe my favorite wrestling game.
It's so hard for me to consider this a Wrestling Game. It's great fun though.
Amazing as always! Thank you! More of these please ❤️
Thanks James! It's good to see you in the comments.
I own the arcade game. I agree, I wish there were more of the music we all remembered from each character. As for the Playstation release (Never played) it seemed liked they reused sounds clips when you get hit from Sega Genesis version of Mortal Kombat II....
The guys who used to work for Midway still appear to be friends with the guys at the WWE. I'd like to see a WWE Immortals for consoles.
Shoot, that could be fun. I know some of this team worked on Legends. I think it released in '11. I need to check it out.
@@Jenovi I'd like 2 see Bill Goldberg in a WWE Immortals since NetherRealm used his slogans "Who's Next?" and "You're Next!"
Dude your videos are amazing!
Thank you very much.
Honestly, the thing that bothers me the most about the versions are the shadows. Probably because I played PSX version the most
You should do saddle reviews.
I think you would be surprised at how qualified I actually am to do just that.
Great video bro i definitely subscribed an enjoyed it,,, that intro was the truth ,, 🙏🏽💯💪🏽,, rip p.b
Thanks! I appreciate all the comments.
The 32x is my go to version of this game.
It's a great version.
"This in my opinion is bad execution" while Bret Hart "the excellence of execution is fighting other Bret Hart's. Coincidence? 🤔
Yes it was! You, my friend, are the only person to catch it.
@@Jenovi Actually, I thought it sounded like a pun, taking in consideration what was happening in there
Despite coming out in mid 95, the game seems to be based on early to mid 94, before Diesel became a big deal. Granted, even by then he was a bigger deal than say, Doink. But Doink was a colorful character who was a perfect fit for such an over the top game.
Keep crushing it!
I'm just waiting to hang out on chat with you again and shoot the bull.
I love seeing Mancow in the crowd of the arcade version of the game.
Great analysis, Shaun! This took me back to when I owned the PS1 version. I used to laugh at how ridiculous it was.
It's wild for sure.
Another great video. Keep up the great work my friend. ☺
Thanks Mikey.
i only ever played the dos version once other than snes many many times and i love the snes version
Kayfabe was dead for a long time when the wwf mortal kombat game came out.
About 6 years by my count, but I wouldn't say dead. Trust me, many people knew, but even more people were unaware. It was really dependent on the demographic you belonged to.
All the shady stuff you mentioned about akklaim at the end feels like a good potential video. They did crazy stuff like pay a guy to change his name to Turok and tried to advertise Shadow Man on actual grave stones. There was a good article in Retro Gamer about them
I've been thinking about it. I don't get Retro Gamer, but it sounds like I missed a fun read.
22:38 Acclaim didn't "allow" Midway to make a WWF game: Acclaim had the WWF license for home consoles/handhelds only while Midway had the WWF license for arcade release. This differentiation in licensing (look up the Gaming Historian's Tetris video for how granular the licensing by the platform can get) is why the arcade had the awesome WWF Superstars and WWF Wrestlefest from Technos, while the 8-bit and 16-bit consoles/handhelds had to endure Acclaim's mediocre-at-best WWF games because Acclaim did not want to pay Technos to sublicense their arcade games for console release.
First off, thank you for taking the time to comment. I can't speak for past games, and I fully understand what you're talking about. However that's not the case here. I would have to check my sources again, but I believe Acclaim held exclusive rights to make WWF licensed games for all platforms from some time in '92-'99?. Anyways, it's not just a guess and not quite what I thought going into it. The video was researched then fact-checked by people intimate with the history of the two companies.
@@Jenovi If Acclaim also had the arcade rights, then Midway would have needed to sub-license the WWF IP from Acclaim and give credit to Acclaim in the arcade game, but Acclaim is not mentioned anywhere in the arcade game or the arcade flyer. Also, WWF European Rampage Tour was released in 1992 by Ocean on various microcomputers and MGA released several WWF portable LCD games throughout the 1990s and none of these products mention Acclaim as their licensor, lending further evidence that Acclaim's licensing only applied to consoles/handhelds.
No mention of the Adam Bomb hidden character rumor? Oh Well.
No rumor here, he was in the game then cut before it released. It's something I was very curious about, but getting meaningful answers on this was...... well I didn't net any results. I even have a picture of two of him at the game studio working on his segments.
Actually the Playstation version HAS the character themes in the game.
But you only hear them after you lose and go back to the character selection screen in 1player mode.
It also plays in 2player mode whoever wins the match in the end and when you go back to the character select screen.
Just thought I would clarify that up for you.
Holly heck, you're right! Can't believe I missed this.
@@Jenovi Hey man, remember to blink for the camera. Some ppl find it creepy when you stare for that long thx!!
@@battosaijenkins946 You get my canned no blink response. :D
I swear I blink a few times in the video! Actually, I just don’t blink very often, maybe 3-5 times a minute unless I’m thinking about it. I don’t often times have people staring into my eyes to notice though. I’ll have to try blinking a bit more as I speak in the future. On an interesting note, the average person blinks about 15 times a minute, but when on camera it increases 30-50 times a minute. So me being the "Wesley Clark" of Retro Gaming Video shows and not increasing my blinks while on camera really stands out. Appreciate the concern and sorry to creep you out. Not trying to steal a soul or anything like that.
I played the Genesis and I think the SNES version. I have the PS one version.
The PS1 version is quite a bit of fun. Controls great.
It would have been nice if you had discussed the characters themselves. Maybe you didn’t because every character is basically the same only different animations. But as a kid I didn’t notice or care at the time
Curious now about that Undertaker fatality in the home ports..
Me too! Let me know if you find anything out.