To be honest, i might not gonna watch any of your future videos, but this one was well edited, and detailed. You just got my SUB for sure. Keep up the good work!!
For my ears, and comfort, I preferred the Blues. However, when I could get a proper seal, I preferred the Kiwis. It’s all based on the ear hole hahah 😂
Yes, I just tested those the other day! Compared to these, I would say those have a slight edge. However, In my opinion. I think the real winner is the Moondrop Katos!
I know I'm very late, but your experience with the Aful P5 is probably entirely caused by the lack of a seal. Dunu S&S tips and Comply foam tips could be your solution, I know because I have a similar problem with a lot of stubby nozzle IEMs.
recently got the truthear crinacle zero as my first IEMs, and in tarkov they make a huge difference, i went form not being able to tell if a player is flanking me from right or from left (with my Sennheiser gsp350 headphones) to literally tracking a player through wall as he comes at me by the sound of his steps. Clarity is also really good, i'm not worried about missing the steps in the rain anymore. But to be completely honest comfort wise they just suck, i take them off as as soon as i finish a raid cuz my ears hurt. Not sure what's the problem, i actually never found those vacuum earphones to be comfortable, so maybe it's just me. All in all, sound wise couldn't recommend them more
I hear you on this. My Tarkov game, despite what other audiophiles say, improved drastically when I heard them coming. Comfort-wise, I hear you. It’s hard for me to keep things in my ear. I more so lean towards headphones!
@caliber-ce7668 i ended up purchasing both red and blue. Red are on another level in terms of sound: much more full, detailed and all. Blue are not as full, a bit too bright, but damn, the lack of details they have help a whole lot with steps in Counter Strike 2. I tried to literally shoot with closed eyes in a custom map with bots and the number of bots I could kill just based on sound was next level.
@@Montenevoso so if i understand the reds are the way to go to start .any idea what extended cable i could order together with it? Im for belgium so i dont have those customs cable sites that easily to send to my doorstep…
Thank you for the video! This is precisely what I have been looking for the past hour, so that I can understand the differences between these IEMs when it comes to gaming.
@@ShadelessDen tbh this is my first time buying IEMS so i have 0 clue whats the best i saw Tenz playing with moondrop blessing 3 but idk if those are one of the best so im trying to find ones who are one of the best of those price range
@@KuzoriAkuzo From what experience, price doesn't always equal quality. If I were going to "start" somewhere, to get a feel for IEMS, just like in my video, I'd start strong and buy the Blues. The Moondrop Kato or Aria 2's are some other solid choices. Kato: amzn.to/3S5Nxvo Aria 2: amzn.to/3RZDk3B
I’ve been using my Crinacle Zero Blues for a week now and I absolutely love them. I’m coming from Astro A40s and I would take the Zeros over them every day. Loved my Astros but the experience and depth of the sound with the zeros is impeccable. All directional audio is spot on! How these are only $50 is beyond me
Omg this is the perfect comment. I used to use astro a40s and swapped go steel series which was terrible. Looking for iems now so this is super encouraging.
@@ModrnWarfareI cannot recommend these highly enough. They are superior in every way. I’ve also used steel series headsets before and they pale in comparison
@@goncaloalves182it’s just personal preference on the tuning. They are both equally good. I sold my Focal Stellia after buying the blue and wanting the cash instead they are that good.
Im planning on buying the Truthear x crinacle zero blue, after seeing alot of good reviews on them for fps games (I mostly play valorant) and i was wondering what microphone you would recommend to pair with them
dude im gonna buy that truthear blue or red, do u think there is that much difference between blue and red ? can u tell me because i will buy according to your opinion
@@ShadelessDen yea i watch but I just wonder your current opinion ^^ and im suprised there is that much difference between red and blue, even red is more expensive
I just got the zero reds and I actually prefer them over the blues. The blues just sound way too dark for my taste, and I lose a lot of the directionality with them
No part of me could ever recommend them in good faith. Too expensive, too far past diminishing returns, etc, BUT. The 64 Audio U12t's have absolutely ruined me by being so good. I've bought too many different pairs over the years but the U12t's put an end to that game.
I own both the Orchestra Lite and the Zero (Blue) and I would take the Zero 10 times out of 10 for gaming, especially FPS gaming. The imaging is seriously insane on this set. Obviously for a media consumption perspective the more expensive set has better detail retrieval but honestly the Zero is still a strong contender.
Can you try zero red and blue for pubg mobile footstep and directional test bcz no one is youtube is doing plz you can just watch the video and reply to me so i can order it 🙏
A DAC replaces the DAC you have in your PC, that is the bare minimum for it to work. You don't need a DACst of the time, specially for gaming when some games can't even handle higher sample rates. For music though, if you go for high Res (not RUclips or Spotify crap), you may want one, but still not necessary since most of the time nobody can tell the difference
amazing vid tbh, id just try to establish the premise of the video. personally seeing two $200+ IEMS and then two $50 that are essentially the same thing but with different tuning. id just try to add more IEMS in the review in general or just a better range of selection, as there are a TON of great IEMS in the 50-120$ range. first video ive come across so just throwing some input, still subbed :)
You know, I found that the blues still performed better. But hey, I’m happy they work well for you. I really wanted them to work for me because of that awesome red!!! Haha
Try spinfit w1 tips on aful p5. Also try pulling the back of your ears and opening your jaw while inserting for the best seal for all iems. Also try tangzu tang sencai tips on the orchestra lite, they eliminate pressure buildup on ventless iems.
I've heard great things about the Hexa, but not the best for Dioko (mainly due to the fit/comfort). I'd shoot for the Hexa first. But I understanding why you'd want the Dioko! I enjoyed the 7Hz Timeless and was immediately drawn to that planar!
I want to make the big jump to a "big boy IEM" but my only experience is the Moon drop aria snow edition and they fit great, but I feel like mids lack. It so hard to choose even with your amazing video :( what would you do @ShadlessDen
Find the good things that you like in the moondrop Aria, study its tuning graphs, and compare other IEM’s with it. If it lacks the clarity of the mids, find an IEM that has strong highs and lows, but a less muddy mid! You can do ittttt!
@@ShadelessDenhaving strong highs and lows in turn recesses the mids which doesnt solve the issue of mids lacking. increasing bass & treble would make the IEM more v shaped therefore having less treble and bass would increase clarity of mids and lead to a more neutral sound.
@@iamshork I recommend trying these eq setting (use equaliser apo on windows) for your moondrop aria snow edition basically it should sound more natural and balanced with this as it is essentially moondrop blessing 3 tuning with more midbass/lower midrange: Preamp: 0.0 dB Filter 1: ON LSC Fc 300 Hz Gain -2.5 dB Q 0.800 Filter 2: ON PK Fc 1600 Hz Gain -4.4 dB Q 1.000 Filter 3: ON PK Fc 4500 Hz Gain -5.0 dB Q 3.000 Filter 4: ON PK Fc 12300 Hz Gain -5.3 dB Q 1.500
I think the Orchestra wins in comfort and Audio. However it lacks bass. But based on the cost, and what you get for your money, I’d choose the blues for that reason. They are that good for $50.
@@ShadelessDen I think I've narrowed my focus on the Moondrop Kato from reviews I've been watching. I'd love to see a video where you compare the Kato to the Orchestra Lites when playing Tarkov.
@@olternaut So I REALLY liked the Kato. It was so great for gaming because it brought a more tempered excitement to sound, and was loaded with detail. Directional audio was awesome, footsteps were easy to hear and distinguish, and more! However, where it fell was with the interchangeable nozzles. I found that they did not stay put, and I always had to tighten them again. When loose, the sound was rattling, like something was loose. So because of that, I would say the Orchestra beats the Katos. If you don't mind dealign with that, KATOS all day.
@@ShadelessDen Well that's disappointing. I was actually counting on that screw in nozzle to be rock solid. And that the Orchestra Lites has a reputation of being uncomfortable because it's so large and unvented. At $166 I want to take a risk with the Kato and make sure that as I use them the nozzle is screwed on tight! Unless there is something on the horizon that is similar I should be looking forward to.
which eartips u used for the truthear x crinicle zero blues? i bought them yesterday and yes they better then my headphones hdj2000 mk2 gaming wise but they are very fatiguing and for music they sound really bad compared to my headphones
I bumped up to the simgot ea1000. I can actually say they are right up there with my sennheiser open backs. May want to give them a shot. When combined with the antlion Kimura cable They are my go to now.
@@ksavx2119 you know, as quirky as this reads, it’s 💯 percent accurate. Typically, the more larger the hole is, the brighter it will sound. And with the smaller holes, it will capture more of the bass. If you’re into competitive gaming, you’d want the highs and mids to shine. If you want more of an immersive experience, bass is king! Overall, you have to make sure you have a great seal!
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After tried IEM's like the HBB Raptgo, the Fiio JH5 and a few others I would say this; unless you have an issue with open back headphones, just get the K702's. They cost less than £110 new on Amazon and you literally need to spend 10 times more (HD800s) to beat their soundstage and imaging. Physics don't lie. I see a lot of reviewers talking about gear A and B that was just released, but the princes of soundstage and imaging only second to the HD800 seem to go unnoticed because they've been around for longer than literally RUclips itself.
For me, I always fall into the trap of how a product looks. The 800S looks great, and that would be the only reason I’d buy it haha. I like how there is little to no gap when the band/headphone cups meet the head (if that makes sense).
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@@ShadelessDen Does make perfect sense. The HD800s look like their worth every penny and I'll get a pair eventually. In the meantime I'll keep my K702... Might even do the balanced mod on them since my pair is now a decade old and new ones cost less than what I paid for mine 10 yeas ago if you can believe it.
did you have any problems with hearing yourself when talking to teammates? i come from an open back headphone and ive heard great things about the blues, but im afraid of how itll affect communication
I bought myself a Zero Blue. The sound is great, the footsteps can be heard perfectly, but the sound is unfortunately quiet. They write on the Internet that an amplifier is needed, but amplifiers are more expensive than headphones. I want to raise the volume by literally 20 percent.
Nah, just buy an Apple dongle. You will listen to it at 30-40% volume MAX (i personally use it at 20-30% with Zero Red). Also it measures really good, distortion and shit is just outstanding for the price. If you don't trust me, you can just google "apple dongle measurements" and do your own research.
Paused the video at 0:57 and I think you're going to say that the Kiwi's are the best gaming IEM in the price range. If so, then I definitely agree /w this statement. I use them and love them, they're definitely in my top 5 of all time.
If you like that wide and deep nozzle Truthear Nova If just deep and thin Kiwi Ears Quintet I’m waiting for the Simgot EM6L, reviewers says it the best
To be honest, if it were that low, I'd just use Apple Ear buds at that range. For me, I'd try to focus on value overall. The blues are probably the lowest I'd pay for an IEM.
I only have the DSP version of the Chu II so I can’t test it on my console, but the details I hear in music tell me it might be a solid pick for gaming. QKZ x HBB was the only other pair I’ve tried for single-player gaming and the immersion + boom from its extra bassy nature made it a really fun pair.
little old to reply but never know. I had the same question and spent like 2 hours reading things. Most part you do not need a dac/amp for most IEM's. can you use them yes you can. Do they help some say yes others no. You can try the Apple USB C to 3.5mm dongle a lot of people recommend it and it is like 9$
@@torinrage5770 Maybe dumb question but with dongle since Idont have a usb C on my pc should I connect this apple dongle to an adapter type c to usb A?
@@AxweII that is what i did i got a nice 4 pack off amazon and everything thing worked out just fine. so it was like 20 $ for the dongle and the 4 pack of adapters. Like i said u don't need a dac or the dongle for em BUT i will say you will notice the difference witht he dongle
I've been using Linsoul KZ ZS10 Pro in-ear HIFI Metal Earphones for like 4 years, they were a cheaper 50 dollar or so pair and for games with a need for good and clear directional audio, after switching from hyperx cloud over-ear headphones, I found that it was weird at first but I can hear EVERYTHING, it often feels like I hear things other people dont for whatever reason
Hi!! I have the same setup, I just received my kz zs10 pro x today. I was playing whith an hyperx cloud 2. But I don't know if it's me but I don't feel like I can ear every thing. Footsteps are difficult to listen. Do you use a dac? Maybe my iem's doesn't work well. I'm wired directly on my pc (on motherboard). Help me please 😢. Sorry for my English if it's bad
@@manumorgado87 mine are wired directly into my motherboard as well. Make sure you don't have any audio enhancements enabled and do not use spatial sound. It can be tough to get used to how directional audio sounds with IEMs because you're not hearing sounds around your ear, you're hearing them from within your ear so it's different but listen to different directional audio videos on youtube like for valorant, i promise it'll click faster if you do
new to iem, i dislike over the ear cables / earhook style cables ? i don't really know what they're called what are my alternatives, can i just switch out the cables for any regular straight ones? are there any kind of cables i should take a look at?
Yes, there are a variety of cables! It really depends on the IEM you buy. Most IEM’s have a 2 pin connector. Overall, just verify the connection type of your IEM and search on Amazon!
I recommend the blues as they are more exciting. The bass is more prominent, and it also outperforms the red in detail resolution. But that’s what my ears say. I’d say buy both, and test them out!🎉
I've never understand "gaming" gimmick in audio devices. Most great games have virtual surround sound in those, so you'd never need more that common good audio devices have offered.
If you’ve already turned up your PC, Tarkov, and volume settings, and it’s still low, you may want to test out the fit of your tips. Adjust them and see how that goes. Worst case, you may want to look at adding a Dac to your setup. A Dac/amp will give the product more power to run. You shouldn’t need one, but that’s what I’d do bud!
@@ShadelessDen thanks for the reply! I think I may just return them, before this I was running some $15 earbuds I found at target and they are way louder and I can hear further. What’s weird is the crin zero blues sound super loud when playing music but in Tarkov they’re just so quiet..
@@ShadelessDen apologies for the late response! I took a look at the game audio settings and overall volume is set to 100, I couldn’t find another way to amplify :/. I also tried every ear piece and volume didn’t increase for me, am I missing something?
@@alejandroesparza6194 weird! If you’ve already checked the volume mixer settings to make sure Tarkov wasn’t lowered, I’m not sure if you can do anything else! They should be able to be run on anything. Interesting.
My first intro to real, good IEMs was with the Truthear x Crinical Zeros. Only 50 bucks but they’re the best headphones I’ve ever owned. Night and day difference. Still looking for that next step up though to save for. How do these compare if you would know?
@@MilkTestingMan Sorry mate, I can't comment on those. I'm no "smell my own fart" audiophile kinda guy, but I like good sound. Diminishing returns is very real, and often I get " the best new thing ever since sliced bread", and a period of initial disappointment. I then get tuned into the new sound (hearing adjusts I guess), and end up appreciating how much better "the new thing" is than I had before. My current " this is the best thing I have ever heard" is my Audeze Maxwell over ear headphones, and my MP145 IEMS. I have reasons for why I like having both, which I can elaborate on if you want, but the MP145 is the IEM equivalent of my Over ear headphones. They sound phenomenal. I play both competitive FPS at a decent level ( Onyx in Halo) as well as story based games or RPGs.
@@xWaxxy I appreciate the response man. I’m also not some snob about audio, but I love music, and FPS games, and I love the Crinical Zeros, but I’m still looking for that next step. Saw a review of the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lites and they’re a little expensive but they’ve got really good reviews.
I still run my DT 990 Pros, but out of these 4, the Blues have more of an advantage by making more important sounds come through. The directional audio was crazy good. However, I found another pair that I like even more: Moondrop Katos. Nab those instead!
@@ShadelessDenI believe he was referring to in-game headsets, like the Razors or Tac Sports. He wants to know as this affects audio range, loudness, and compression.
@@Subtracks_ ohhhhhhhhhhhh my bad. Yes, I tested out all of them. The Sardins improved major, as I had a hard time pin point enemies. They were mushy and bass heavy with my DT990’s. However, they were more clearer and better with IEM’s.
The problem with the Crinacle Zero Red making it difficult to detect where enemies are has to do with the game's engine. Tarkov is famous for it's horrible audio engine, you should perhaps try a different game or something else to test their directional audio.
Hey hey! Yes Tarkov alone hasn't had the best record for audio. I agree. However, this test involved other games as well. My ears didn't enjoy the Reds. But I'm glad that they work for you!
@@ShadelessDen I wasn't actually expecting a reply! That's amazing... Yeah, I suppose everyone's different on this planet, so just because a majority of the people enjoy something doesn't mean you're forced to enjoy it too.. Sorry if I came across as a bit rude and all-knowing! Keep up the amazing job you do, seriously!!!
They look awesome. I am really liking the Planar game these days. I think that may be the feature, to be honest. The only experience I have with Planar's is the 7hz Timeless, and it still has my top pick!
@ShadelessDen yes...I originally used the small white ones in the middle and they hurt my ears....then I used the smaller white ones they fit fine but were extremely quiet....then I settled on the black foam ones and they fit great but it was still too quiet
Ola bass Or Sigmot ew200 Or Trn conch Or Moondrop CHU II Or TRUTHEAR x Crinacle zero RED OR BLUE Or Kz pr3 Or 7HZ x Crinacle zero 2 Or Blon x HBB Z300 I want a gaming experience for a normal person to use, and they will be useful in FPS games, such as ambient sounds, watching videos, and podcasts. The bass is not as important to me as the sound, its purity and clarity are more important Is there a better option than them in the $40 category?
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To be honest, i might not gonna watch any of your future videos, but this one was well edited, and detailed. You just got my SUB for sure. Keep up the good work!!
I appreciate that!
try these IEMs Final VR3000 great for gaming for tarkov also would love a review
the blues did better than kiwi ears?
For my ears, and comfort, I preferred the Blues.
However, when I could get a proper seal, I preferred the Kiwis. It’s all based on the ear hole hahah 😂
have you tried the simgot em6ls?
Yes, I just tested those the other day! Compared to these, I would say those have a slight edge. However, In my opinion. I think the real winner is the Moondrop Katos!
Copy that thanks dude
@@franciscamilo867 glad to help!
I know I'm very late, but your experience with the Aful P5 is probably entirely caused by the lack of a seal.
Dunu S&S tips and Comply foam tips could be your solution, I know because I have a similar problem with a lot of stubby nozzle IEMs.
I agree.
recently got the truthear crinacle zero as my first IEMs, and in tarkov they make a huge difference, i went form not being able to tell if a player is flanking me from right or from left (with my Sennheiser gsp350 headphones) to literally tracking a player through wall as he comes at me by the sound of his steps. Clarity is also really good, i'm not worried about missing the steps in the rain anymore. But to be completely honest comfort wise they just suck, i take them off as as soon as i finish a raid cuz my ears hurt. Not sure what's the problem, i actually never found those vacuum earphones to be comfortable, so maybe it's just me. All in all, sound wise couldn't recommend them more
I hear you on this. My Tarkov game, despite what other audiophiles say, improved drastically when I heard them coming.
Comfort-wise, I hear you. It’s hard for me to keep things in my ear. I more so lean towards headphones!
Was this on blue or red ones?
I am searching iems for eft. Any idea if i would go for the blues or reds
@caliber-ce7668 i ended up purchasing both red and blue. Red are on another level in terms of sound: much more full, detailed and all. Blue are not as full, a bit too bright, but damn, the lack of details they have help a whole lot with steps in Counter Strike 2. I tried to literally shoot with closed eyes in a custom map with bots and the number of bots I could kill just based on sound was next level.
@@Montenevoso so if i understand the reds are the way to go to start .any idea what extended cable i could order together with it? Im for belgium so i dont have those customs cable sites that easily to send to my doorstep…
Thank you for the video!
This is precisely what I have been looking for the past hour, so that I can understand the differences between these IEMs when it comes to gaming.
Thank you for watching!
Yes bro, keep doing this and only this on this channel, great audio, visuals, and information.
Thanks man! You shall see more!
@@ShadelessDen What is ur best IEM for gaming especially Valorant and watching movies max price 400 euro's????
@@KuzoriAkuzo What IEMS have you tried so far? What kind of tips do you prefer? There are so many factors at play!
@@ShadelessDen tbh this is my first time buying IEMS so i have 0 clue whats the best i saw Tenz playing with moondrop blessing 3 but idk if those are one of the best so im trying to find ones who are one of the best of those price range
@@KuzoriAkuzo From what experience, price doesn't always equal quality. If I were going to "start" somewhere, to get a feel for IEMS, just like in my video, I'd start strong and buy the Blues. The Moondrop Kato or Aria 2's are some other solid choices.
Kato: amzn.to/3S5Nxvo
Aria 2: amzn.to/3RZDk3B
@shadeless do you have any new favorit IEMS now that its allmost been a year and everyone is making IEMS?
There are so many new choices.
I’ve been enjoying the Mangrid Tea 2’s! They are my main for music and gaming.
The IEM ASMR i didnt realize i needed today
You’re a legend.
I’ve been using my Crinacle Zero Blues for a week now and I absolutely love them. I’m coming from Astro A40s and I would take the Zeros over them every day. Loved my Astros but the experience and depth of the sound with the zeros is impeccable. All directional audio is spot on! How these are only $50 is beyond me
Exactly!!!🎉🎉
Omg this is the perfect comment. I used to use astro a40s and swapped go steel series which was terrible. Looking for iems now so this is super encouraging.
@@ModrnWarfareI cannot recommend these highly enough. They are superior in every way. I’ve also used steel series headsets before and they pale in comparison
Reds are just blue but better, in every way. First reviewer saying otherwise, but hey, everyone is different.
@@goncaloalves182it’s just personal preference on the tuning. They are both equally good. I sold my Focal Stellia after buying the blue and wanting the cash instead they are that good.
Was considering getting the zero red, are they plug and play or do I need hires dac and that stuff? Also do they have good bass?
1. Reds are plug and play.
2. I didn’t need a Dac for mine.
3. Decent bass. I preferred the blues for that.
I’m pretty shocked that you have so few subscribers. This is probably the best review I’ve ever seen, period
That’s very nice of you to say! Thank you!🙏
Great video clear and concise.
Thank you for the feedback!🎉
Can u add chapters next time on ech individual review makes it easier to see if the one in my price range is good😊
Sure 👍
What's good for Gaming/Music? Mostly play Valorant but have transitioned to just playing Cozy games
I really enjoy my Mangrid Tea 2’s!!! They are my go to!
Im planning on buying the Truthear x crinacle zero blue, after seeing alot of good reviews on them for fps games (I mostly play valorant) and i was wondering what microphone you would recommend to pair with them
I just ordered a pair of Truthear x Crinacle Zero blue, looking forward to try my first IEM's. Been using the Sennheiser HD560S as of late.
@@bergdk237 I hope you enjoy them! The HD560S’s are pretty nice as well!
@@ShadelessDen Yeah the HD560S is good as well🙂 But i feel like i could use a boost in hearing direction and footsteps, especially for Apex!😄
dude im gonna buy that truthear blue or red, do u think there is that much difference between blue and red ? can u tell me because i will buy according to your opinion
haha did you watch the video? Skip the the end for my recommendation :). Blue for the win!
@@ShadelessDen yea i watch but I just wonder your current opinion ^^ and im suprised there is that much difference between red and blue, even red is more expensive
@@toprakde Right! Yeah, I highly recommend testing both to be honest! Your ears may like the Reds!
Finally found an iem reviewer and a fellow tarkov enjoyer as well.
I just got the zero reds and I actually prefer them over the blues. The blues just sound way too dark for my taste, and I lose a lot of the directionality with them
Less gooo! Nice! I’m glad that you found a pair that works for you!🎉🎉
Like I don't mean this as an insult but I thought your voice was AI generated for a few minutes lol. Thanks for the video!
Haha no offense taken.
No part of me could ever recommend them in good faith. Too expensive, too far past diminishing returns, etc, BUT. The 64 Audio U12t's have absolutely ruined me by being so good. I've bought too many different pairs over the years but the U12t's put an end to that game.
I've always wanted to try, but so scared of the price!!!!
@@ShadelessDen they sat bookmarked for me for like 2 years. Then one of those 3am why the heck not manic decisions later. Well. No regrets? I think? 🙃
@@poppamogi Have you tried other IEM's before? If so, how do they compare to that beast?
I own both the Orchestra Lite and the Zero (Blue) and I would take the Zero 10 times out of 10 for gaming, especially FPS gaming. The imaging is seriously insane on this set. Obviously for a media consumption perspective the more expensive set has better detail retrieval but honestly the Zero is still a strong contender.
Isn’t it crazy how good it is, for the price!? #mindblown
Would you consider doing a review of the etymotic 3xr?
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Can you try zero red and blue for pubg mobile footstep and directional test bcz no one is youtube is doing plz you can just watch the video and reply to me so i can order it 🙏
I can’t imagine using iems for gaming. I mean I’ve done it but it’s just not the vibe for me. Stereo image is too narrow.
Yes, they certainly have their specific context and use case. I enjoy headphones for a more laid back experience, or even speakers/monitors.
I have the zero blues but they are extremely quiet when gaming. Do I need an external dac or amp?
It depends on what you're plugging them into. But it only has a 10 ohm impedance, so anything should be able to drive it!
do you need a audio dac or can you just plug them in the pc
I recommend getting a Dac, but yes you can.
A DAC replaces the DAC you have in your PC, that is the bare minimum for it to work. You don't need a DACst of the time, specially for gaming when some games can't even handle higher sample rates. For music though, if you go for high Res (not RUclips or Spotify crap), you may want one, but still not necessary since most of the time nobody can tell the difference
amazing vid tbh, id just try to establish the premise of the video. personally seeing two $200+ IEMS and then two $50 that are essentially the same thing but with different tuning. id just try to add more IEMS in the review in general or just a better range of selection, as there are a TON of great IEMS in the 50-120$ range. first video ive come across so just throwing some input, still subbed :)
Thank you for the feedback! Thanks for hanging!
got zero blues but looking to upgrade to simgot em6l. any experience with the simgot?
Yes! I think they are a couple steps above the blues, but I still preferred my blues.
i got the crinacle zero red and when im gaming i just switch the profile to the crinacle zero (blue) in peace EQ . got the best of both
You know, I found that the blues still performed better. But hey, I’m happy they work well for you. I really wanted them to work for me because of that awesome red!!! Haha
How do you do that?
@@blurryface4519 search in the internet: Peace EQ
I LOVE my Crin Zero Blues. One of my favorite purchases for IEMs
ALSO...great video man! As always, LOVE the content!
Thanks bud!
Yes! I was so surprised!!
Try spinfit w1 tips on aful p5. Also try pulling the back of your ears and opening your jaw while inserting for the best seal for all iems. Also try tangzu tang sencai tips on the orchestra lite, they eliminate pressure buildup on ventless iems.
Thanks for the information! Very helpful!
They can be in the same sentence! IEMs for tarkov are like cheating, people need to use software to hear what an IEM user can hear normally.
Definitely!!!🎉🎉
What iems would you recommend for tarkov?
@@itamargguu Moondrop Katos or Blessing 3. They had the best imaging when I tested them out.
the recording in this video should be in a 500k+ sub channel, not a little channel like this!
@@soup-plays-vr thank you!🙏
And then there’s me using a vocal oriented iem for gaming :
Great breakdown! Going to have to give those blue’s a try next!
I was so surprised man. They are worth it! All it needs is a nice cable.
@@ShadelessDen Any good cables recommendation for it?
was wondering how the Hexa or Dioko would fare in competitive fps
I've heard great things about the Hexa, but not the best for Dioko (mainly due to the fit/comfort). I'd shoot for the Hexa first. But I understanding why you'd want the Dioko! I enjoyed the 7Hz Timeless and was immediately drawn to that planar!
I want to make the big jump to a "big boy IEM" but my only experience is the Moon drop aria snow edition and they fit great, but I feel like mids lack. It so hard to choose even with your amazing video :( what would you do @ShadlessDen
Find the good things that you like in the moondrop Aria, study its tuning graphs, and compare other IEM’s with it. If it lacks the clarity of the mids, find an IEM that has strong highs and lows, but a less muddy mid! You can do ittttt!
@@ShadelessDen thanks brotha!!
@@ShadelessDenhaving strong highs and lows in turn recesses the mids which doesnt solve the issue of mids lacking. increasing bass & treble would make the IEM more v shaped therefore having less treble and bass would increase clarity of mids and lead to a more neutral sound.
@@iamshork
I recommend trying these eq setting (use equaliser apo on windows) for your moondrop aria snow edition basically it should sound more natural and balanced with this as it is essentially moondrop blessing 3 tuning with more midbass/lower midrange:
Preamp: 0.0 dB
Filter 1: ON LSC Fc 300 Hz Gain -2.5 dB Q 0.800
Filter 2: ON PK Fc 1600 Hz Gain -4.4 dB Q 1.000
Filter 3: ON PK Fc 4500 Hz Gain -5.0 dB Q 3.000
Filter 4: ON PK Fc 12300 Hz Gain -5.3 dB Q 1.500
@@-duck thanks G 😮💨
Why iem over a headphone? Cant understand
Over ear is just as good in some cases! For example, the 490 HD's are a solid open back headphone! Sometimes, IEMS provide clearer audio.
I got iems on wish list not in the money rn tho kids to expensive 😂
"Audio in gaming is subjective" With Tarkov Arena Clip ahahahahah I know your feeling bro
what an incredible video and an even better voiceeeeee. great work bro
Thanks buddy!
@@ShadelessDen clicked the link and bought me a pair.
Would you say the crinicle zero blues are better overall than the orchestra lites for gaming in terms of performance and comfort?
I think the Orchestra wins in comfort and Audio. However it lacks bass.
But based on the cost, and what you get for your money, I’d choose the blues for that reason. They are that good for $50.
@@ShadelessDen I think I've narrowed my focus on the Moondrop Kato from reviews I've been watching. I'd love to see a video where you compare the Kato to the Orchestra Lites when playing Tarkov.
@@olternaut So I REALLY liked the Kato. It was so great for gaming because it brought a more tempered excitement to sound, and was loaded with detail. Directional audio was awesome, footsteps were easy to hear and distinguish, and more! However, where it fell was with the interchangeable nozzles. I found that they did not stay put, and I always had to tighten them again. When loose, the sound was rattling, like something was loose. So because of that, I would say the Orchestra beats the Katos. If you don't mind dealign with that, KATOS all day.
@@ShadelessDen Well that's disappointing. I was actually counting on that screw in nozzle to be rock solid. And that the Orchestra Lites has a reputation of being uncomfortable because it's so large and unvented. At $166 I want to take a risk with the Kato and make sure that as I use them the nozzle is screwed on tight! Unless there is something on the horizon that is similar I should be looking forward to.
You said 8 Balanced "Amateurs" lol
do u recommend any IEMs for gaming around $100-$150
I heard the Novas were good!
Bro could you recommend any IEMs for gaming/music better than kato in 230$ range? Would be really helpful!
Hype 4, Hype 10, Mangrid Tea 2, and Xenns top!
@@ShadelessDen thanks a lot!
which eartips u used for the truthear x crinicle zero blues?
i bought them yesterday and yes they better then my headphones hdj2000 mk2 gaming wise but they are very fatiguing and for music they sound really bad compared to my headphones
I use these amzn.to/4dqHTwX
@@ShadelessDen thanks, what are the advantages of these compared to stock
planning to buy zero reds but switching to zero blues cuz of you , im trusting you in this one , i play valorant and using this iem for pure gaming
Great start!!!🎉🎉🎉
@@ShadelessDen question brother , is the DAC and amp is the same? or do i have to use this?
shouldn’t need a Dac to run those. But I’d get a little Dac if the sound isn’t loud enough!
I bumped up to the simgot ea1000. I can actually say they are right up there with my sennheiser open backs. May want to give them a shot. When combined with the antlion Kimura cable They are my go to now.
That's awesome. What do you like about them? And what games do you play?
Which of the provided eartips with the Crinacle Zero would you recommend for gaming?
The one that fit Best to you :) If they dont fit corectly they Will leak and sound off
@@ksavx2119 you know, as quirky as this reads, it’s 💯 percent accurate. Typically, the more larger the hole is, the brighter it will sound. And with the smaller holes, it will capture more of the bass.
If you’re into competitive gaming, you’d want the highs and mids to shine. If you want more of an immersive experience, bass is king!
Overall, you have to make sure you have a great seal!
After tried IEM's like the HBB Raptgo, the Fiio JH5 and a few others I would say this; unless you have an issue with open back headphones, just get the K702's. They cost less than £110 new on Amazon and you literally need to spend 10 times more (HD800s) to beat their soundstage and imaging. Physics don't lie.
I see a lot of reviewers talking about gear A and B that was just released, but the princes of soundstage and imaging only second to the HD800 seem to go unnoticed because they've been around for longer than literally RUclips itself.
For me, I always fall into the trap of how a product looks. The 800S looks great, and that would be the only reason I’d buy it haha. I like how there is little to no gap when the band/headphone cups meet the head (if that makes sense).
@@ShadelessDen Does make perfect sense. The HD800s look like their worth every penny and I'll get a pair eventually. In the meantime I'll keep my K702... Might even do the balanced mod on them since my pair is now a decade old and new ones cost less than what I paid for mine 10 yeas ago if you can believe it.
Yes, I think the K702 is a great product. No need to upgrade. Keep those bad boys.
What’s the best IEM for Escape from Tarkov?
From my testing thus far, and to my ears, Moondrop Katos!
pls try simgot em6l
I have! They are great! But I think the other sets outperform the EM6l's
How do you rate those compared to Moondrop Aria 2?
Haven't trie the Moondrop Aria 2's, but I hear great things about it's layering, and balanced sound!
@@ShadelessDen seems like Aria 2 should be nice, cause you liked Crinacle's Truthear IEMs and Crinacle like Aria 2
did you have any problems with hearing yourself when talking to teammates? i come from an open back headphone and ive heard great things about the blues, but im afraid of how itll affect communication
If you don’t have an interface that allows you to hear yourself speak, you will have a hard time hearing outside noises. It isolates very well!
@@ShadelessDen thanks for the response 😁 do you have any recommendations for a low budget interface?
@@destroykevi2657 Evo 4: a.co/d/iod080z
So which IEM did you decide is best suited for Tarkov?
Blues, the Moondrop katos, or the blessing 3’s!
Almost done with my Moondrop Blessing 3 review.
Is the nozzle on the blue's longer than the one on the red or is that just some kind of optical illusion?
Same size!
Blue is better for Gaming as red ?
For my ears, I thought so!
I bought myself a Zero Blue. The sound is great, the footsteps can be heard perfectly, but the sound is unfortunately quiet. They write on the Internet that an amplifier is needed, but amplifiers are more expensive than headphones. I want to raise the volume by literally 20 percent.
This Dac is affordable: amzn.to/3PldTsj
My review is here: ruclips.net/video/vnzbQGLbKp8/видео.htmlsi=Xumu9UiUzc1SfyP9
Nah, just buy an Apple dongle. You will listen to it at 30-40% volume MAX (i personally use it at 20-30% with Zero Red). Also it measures really good, distortion and shit is just outstanding for the price. If you don't trust me, you can just google "apple dongle measurements" and do your own research.
i have broken kz zs10 pro and thinking to buy other iem that good for gaming too.
is it better cloud earbuds 2 or cri zero blue? thx
Test out the blues!
Not in Microphone? How to use mobile games, calls ?
Paused the video at 0:57 and I think you're going to say that the Kiwi's are the best gaming IEM in the price range. If so, then I definitely agree /w this statement. I use them and love them, they're definitely in my top 5 of all time.
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If you like that wide and deep nozzle
Truthear Nova
If just deep and thin Kiwi Ears Quintet
I’m waiting for the Simgot EM6L, reviewers says it the best
I felt the EM6L lacked detail and imaging. But it wasn’t too bad. I think the kato wins overall so far.
@@ShadelessDenhey bro what would you recommend over the katos, is there any better IEMs around 230$ budget?
Hello again! Hype 4, Hype 10, Mangrid Tea 2, and Xenns top!@@inf888
subbed for the clean videography, hope your reviews are good too.
Thank you!!🎉🎉🎉🎉
Little bit late but i have a question, when playing with the zero red did you plug them with the impedance adapter included in the box ? Great review.
Yes! It helped provide more “oomph” to the base. I enjoyed it.
Yes! It helped provide more “oomph” to the base. I enjoyed it.
did you try without it?@@ShadelessDen
ARIA 2?
I’ve heard good things🎉
Have you tried the Simgot EM6L IEMs? If so id love to know what you think.
Yes! I liked them! I thought the Blues and the Moondrop Katos handled the directional audio better, but still a great buy!
@@ShadelessDen What about the Simgot Supermix 4??
@@DevilDaRebel I’ve heard great things about that IEM! Haven’t tested myself, but heard it was a great product!
@@ShadelessDen Ty for the quick response.
I love the ZERO Red! But I am also looking for some ultra budget options. What are your thoughts on the Chu 2? I mostly play Valorant and CS.
To be honest, if it were that low, I'd just use Apple Ear buds at that range. For me, I'd try to focus on value overall. The blues are probably the lowest I'd pay for an IEM.
I only have the DSP version of the Chu II so I can’t test it on my console, but the details I hear in music tell me it might be a solid pick for gaming. QKZ x HBB was the only other pair I’ve tried for single-player gaming and the immersion + boom from its extra bassy nature made it a really fun pair.
I've been deciding between the crinacle blues or the reds and I'm mainly going to use it for gaming, which one do prefer for a game like valorant?
Blues. But I’d recommend testing both!
Sorry I have to ask do you need a dac/amp for any of this Iem for the computer games ?
I would look up the impedance for all of these, but I believe the Blues and Reds do not require one.
little old to reply but never know. I had the same question and spent like 2 hours reading things. Most part you do not need a dac/amp for most IEM's. can you use them yes you can. Do they help some say yes others no. You can try the Apple USB C to 3.5mm dongle a lot of people recommend it and it is like 9$
@@torinrage5770facts. It’s all about testing.
@@torinrage5770 Maybe dumb question but with dongle since Idont have a usb C on my pc should I connect this apple dongle to an adapter type c to usb A?
@@AxweII that is what i did i got a nice 4 pack off amazon and everything thing worked out just fine. so it was like 20 $ for the dongle and the 4 pack of adapters. Like i said u don't need a dac or the dongle for em BUT i will say you will notice the difference witht he dongle
Just ordered Hexa let us ser
Let me know what you think!
When it will come for sure i ll put update on my comment@@ShadelessDen
Dude this is really an immersive well put review.. you earned a sub for your work
Thank you! More to come!
@ShadelessDen that's awesome .. so if I buy the zero blues do I just plug and play or I'm gonna need an audio mixer or an amp?
@@nomadvalley4247 should be, yes! But some have said they needed one, but I didn’t need one.
Performer 5 or 8 with Dunu S&S tips is chef's kiss
I’m going to have to try them again!! I am currently testing the Blessing 3’s…I really like them.
I've been using Linsoul KZ ZS10 Pro in-ear HIFI Metal Earphones for like 4 years, they were a cheaper 50 dollar or so pair and for games with a need for good and clear directional audio, after switching from hyperx cloud over-ear headphones, I found that it was weird at first but I can hear EVERYTHING, it often feels like I hear things other people dont for whatever reason
I’ll look into those!!
Hi!! I have the same setup, I just received my kz zs10 pro x today. I was playing whith an hyperx cloud 2. But I don't know if it's me but I don't feel like I can ear every thing. Footsteps are difficult to listen. Do you use a dac? Maybe my iem's doesn't work well. I'm wired directly on my pc (on motherboard). Help me please 😢. Sorry for my English if it's bad
@@manumorgado87 mine are wired directly into my motherboard as well. Make sure you don't have any audio enhancements enabled and do not use spatial sound. It can be tough to get used to how directional audio sounds with IEMs because you're not hearing sounds around your ear, you're hearing them from within your ear so it's different but listen to different directional audio videos on youtube like for valorant, i promise it'll click faster if you do
new to iem, i dislike over the ear cables / earhook style cables ?
i don't really know what they're called
what are my alternatives, can i just switch out the cables for any regular straight ones?
are there any kind of cables i should take a look at?
Yes, there are a variety of cables! It really depends on the IEM you buy. Most IEM’s have a 2 pin connector. Overall, just verify the connection type of your IEM and search on Amazon!
I thought I did too until I bought my first pair. (Kiwi Orchestra Lite’s) and the cable for that is super soft and light.
Do u use amp with the crinacle blue?
Yes, I tested it out with an Amp.
@@ShadelessDen I just bought it but I found the sound volume is so low , why is that and how do I fix it ?
@@fahadsaleh8117 if you want more volume, get a DAC + amp based on your headphones. For the Crin Blue, any cheap dac will do.
I'm confused btw the red and the blues? What do u recommend? (gaming/music listening)
I recommend the blues as they are more exciting. The bass is more prominent, and it also outperforms the red in detail resolution.
But that’s what my ears say. I’d say buy both, and test them out!🎉
@@ShadelessDen you already did the test for us, I'll go with the blue ones!
@@ibrahimouchair8742 enjoy!
I've never understand "gaming" gimmick in audio devices. Most great games have virtual surround sound in those, so you'd never need more that common good audio devices have offered.
Great thoughts!
I use to think the same thing, but when I started messing with many IEM's, it's crazy how each IEM provides different sound quality.
Hello! I bought the crin zero blues and found that they sound great for music, but in Tarkov they sound a bit quiet. Is there any way to fix this?
If you’ve already turned up your PC, Tarkov, and volume settings, and it’s still low, you may want to test out the fit of your tips. Adjust them and see how that goes.
Worst case, you may want to look at adding a Dac to your setup. A Dac/amp will give the product more power to run. You shouldn’t need one, but that’s what I’d do bud!
@@ShadelessDen thanks for the reply! I think I may just return them, before this I was running some $15 earbuds I found at target and they are way louder and I can hear further.
What’s weird is the crin zero blues sound super loud when playing music but in Tarkov they’re just so quiet..
@@alejandroesparza6194 interesting. Hows the in game audio settings? Everything correct there?
@@ShadelessDen apologies for the late response! I took a look at the game audio settings and overall volume is set to 100, I couldn’t find another way to amplify :/. I also tried every ear piece and volume didn’t increase for me, am I missing something?
@@alejandroesparza6194 weird! If you’ve already checked the volume mixer settings to make sure Tarkov wasn’t lowered, I’m not sure if you can do anything else! They should be able to be run on anything. Interesting.
Could you specifically do a review for Escape from Tarkov gaming with the Moondrop Kato?
Hidizs MP145 - thank me later
Unfortunately way to big for my little ears lol
My first intro to real, good IEMs was with the Truthear x Crinical Zeros. Only 50 bucks but they’re the best headphones I’ve ever owned. Night and day difference. Still looking for that next step up though to save for. How do these compare if you would know?
@@MilkTestingMan Sorry mate, I can't comment on those. I'm no "smell my own fart" audiophile kinda guy, but I like good sound. Diminishing returns is very real, and often I get " the best new thing ever since sliced bread", and a period of initial disappointment.
I then get tuned into the new sound (hearing adjusts I guess), and end up appreciating how much better "the new thing" is than I had before.
My current " this is the best thing I have ever heard" is my Audeze Maxwell over ear headphones, and my MP145 IEMS. I have reasons for why I like having both, which I can elaborate on if you want, but the MP145 is the IEM equivalent of my Over ear headphones. They sound phenomenal.
I play both competitive FPS at a decent level ( Onyx in Halo) as well as story based games or RPGs.
@@xWaxxy I appreciate the response man. I’m also not some snob about audio, but I love music, and FPS games, and I love the Crinical Zeros, but I’m still looking for that next step. Saw a review of the Kiwi Ears Orchestra Lites and they’re a little expensive but they’ve got really good reviews.
Does it have good imaging? Positioning?
ok but what headset are you running in tarkov? I know that effects audio
I still run my DT 990 Pros, but out of these 4, the Blues have more of an advantage by making more important sounds come through. The directional audio was crazy good. However, I found another pair that I like even more: Moondrop Katos. Nab those instead!
@@ShadelessDenI believe he was referring to in-game headsets, like the Razors or Tac Sports. He wants to know as this affects audio range, loudness, and compression.
@@Subtracks_ ohhhhhhhhhhhh my bad. Yes, I tested out all of them. The Sardins improved major, as I had a hard time pin point enemies. They were mushy and bass heavy with my DT990’s. However, they were more clearer and better with IEM’s.
Let’s go. His give me ideas on which items to go with next
Thanks bud! Yes! Very fun review!
Need to recommend with mic, for xbox!
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Greta product. I thought it lacked either imaging, and the Moondrop Kato was like 20% better.
@@ShadelessDen you Sir, are unique in that assessment
The problem with the Crinacle Zero Red making it difficult to detect where enemies are has to do with the game's engine. Tarkov is famous for it's horrible audio engine, you should perhaps try a different game or something else to test their directional audio.
Hey hey! Yes Tarkov alone hasn't had the best record for audio. I agree. However, this test involved other games as well. My ears didn't enjoy the Reds. But I'm glad that they work for you!
@@ShadelessDen I wasn't actually expecting a reply! That's amazing... Yeah, I suppose everyone's different on this planet, so just because a majority of the people enjoy something doesn't mean you're forced to enjoy it too.. Sorry if I came across as a bit rude and all-knowing! Keep up the amazing job you do, seriously!!!
@@floppinium No problem. Much love! I really wanted to like those reds!! Very beautiful! Thanks for the support!
what do you think of the hbb pr2?
They look awesome. I am really liking the Planar game these days. I think that may be the feature, to be honest. The only experience I have with Planar's is the 7hz Timeless, and it still has my top pick!
The original was pretty good, but now it’s treble murder without that black mesh damper.
@@Hijynx87 wow they removed the mesh damn
Quaaludes
Thank you.
If you want better imaging try IEMs that are neutral/flat tuned. The Aria, Chu II, Zero,ZS10 even the Quarks are good especially in tac shooters.
Great advice. I’ll check those out!
I recently tested the Moondrop Katos. They were very impressive.
So these are better than the new moondrop dusks?
I’m not sure. I hear great things about the Dusks!!
@@ShadelessDen ur a legend for replying that fast 🔥 maybe a review video soon 😜
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@@ShadelessDen how the fuck do you have the time to reply to every comment 😮
@@Eliah88😂😂😂😂
good stuff man
Thanks buddy. Hope all is well!
My crinacle blues are way too quiet compared to other iems....even way more quiet than the 7hz crin collabs
Very interesting. I never had that issue. Did you swap tips!?
@ShadelessDen yes...I originally used the small white ones in the middle and they hurt my ears....then I used the smaller white ones they fit fine but were extremely quiet....then I settled on the black foam ones and they fit great but it was still too quiet
@ShadelessDen I'm tryna figure out if they're just defective and I should get them replaced or should I just get a refund and get something else
@@mre8ballgaming842 That's wild man. I never had that issue. You may want to look into that!
Soooo clean. Great video!
Thanks for watching
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❤ you!
❤ you! I didn’t know you posted this yet but it was a fantastic review!!! More please 😊
felt like AI talking, not a good one but nice vid
Well hey, that’s a compliment! I’ll take it. This is why I record in my closet haha
Ola bass
Or
Sigmot ew200
Or
Trn conch
Or
Moondrop CHU II
Or
TRUTHEAR x Crinacle zero RED OR BLUE
Or
Kz pr3
Or
7HZ x Crinacle zero 2
Or
Blon x HBB Z300
I want a gaming experience for a normal person to use, and they will be useful in FPS games, such as ambient sounds, watching videos, and podcasts.
The bass is not as important to me as the sound, its purity and clarity are more important
Is there a better option than them in the $40 category?