Looks like Ben is hitting the weights and eating great. Dude, you’re looking jacked and healthy. Congrats bro. Now write a book about so we can all get rid of the Dad bods
Okay you don’t need an expensive room obviously but it literally helps loving the environment of where you work so it matters a little since you’ll be spending a lot of time there. Plus having weights and a wrestling room in the same facility saves a lot of travel. At ASU we had the weight room a couple miles away!
You just need the space. Doesn't need to be fancy but need the room so you don't have to go run while the other guys wrestle. I had to roll out the mats in the cafeteria when i was growing up.
I consider AWA as a nice facility. Looks perfect. You don't need a nice facility but it's nice to have a nice facility. I think every wrestling room should be at minimum what the AWA is
To make a whole program, my 12 year old son wrestles at three clubs. Two are in metal garage sheds and one is the Stanford wrestling room. Gotta say, my boy learns just as well in the garages. He still likes the Stanford room a lot.
100% correct. Gable's old fieldhouse facility was absolutely Spartan. The wrestlers Lewis, Banachs, etc. got their water out of a garden hose in the fieldhouse weight room.
something else i have always pondered is the progression of one’s mind as they move through their life journey and expectations of quality and comfort. if your elementary school is brand new and cutting-edge technology you may never attend a school or work in a building as nice for the rest of your life. in a marathon the physiological result of passing vs being passed is real. i think high schools and middle schools pursuing high level facilities are setting kids up for massive let downs as it relates to athlete expectations.
Ben is wrong here. The answer is Cornell University. The Friedman Center went up in 2002, and since then the Big Red have not finished lower than 12 at Nationals and have 18 top nine team finishes in the 21 national tournaments which have taken place since then. Before the Friedman was built and opened, Cornell never finished higher than 10th (1993) and had the following team results at nationals between 1993 and 2002: '94 - 17th, '95 - 56th, '96 - 42nd, '97 - 41st, '98 - 67th, '99 - 36th, '00 - 34th, '01 - 28th, '02 - 18th.
I’d be interested to see who has the best team with the worst/least expensive room. I think you have a point but all the teams with the best facilities also have the best teams. Now is a new facility worth 25 million? Maybe not, but any state of the art facility these days costs a fortune and nice facilities certainly do bring in better recruits. No real way to prove this point but if you stuck Penn States team in a crappy little hole in the wall with old mats and poor accommodations their recruiting would no doubt suffer. Cael doesn’t use his room as a selling point because they have comparable rooms to all the top tier programs and their best selling point is their results. Having top notch facilities also doesn’t hurt when giving tours to rich donors because rich folks tend to like to be associated with nice things.
Reminds me of the analogy of an entrepreneur's investment in a liberal arts BA degree. Instead of socking away $150k in liberal arts prior to launching your startup, why not use the $150k to promote your startup while you learn liberal arts on RUclips for free. Investing in recruitment research and development, NIL, transfer portal, and RTC will generate better outcomes in performance than a better wrestling room facility.
Great teams should have great facilities. They bring in the money and it should be spent on them. Put Cael in a dark basement wrestling room with old half broke equipment, and Cael will speak up.
Ben is wrong here. The answer is Cornell University. The Friedman Center went up in 2002, and since then the Big Red have not finished lower than 12 at Nationals and have 18 top nine team finishes in the 21 national tournaments which have taken place since then. Before the Friedman was built and opened, Cornell never finished higher than 10th (1993) and had the following team results at nationals between 1993 and 2002: '94 - 17th, '95 - 56th, '96 - 42nd, '97 - 41st, '98 - 67th, '99 - 36th, '00 - 34th, '01 - 28th, '02 - 18th.
LA Crosse just moved into their new facility and I believe finished third. Eau Claire also just moved into their in the past year and vaulted to top 5 this year.
Ben is wrong here. The answer is Cornell University. The Friedman Center went up in 2002, and since then the Big Red have not finished lower than 12 at Nationals and have 18 top nine team finishes in the 21 national tournaments which have taken place since then. Before the Friedman was built and opened, Cornell never finished higher than 10th (1993) and had the following team results at nationals between 1993 and 2002: '94 - 17th, '95 - 56th, '96 - 42nd, '97 - 41st, '98 - 67th, '99 - 36th, '00 - 34th, '01 - 28th, '02 - 18th.
I agree 100% with Ben Askren. Fancy facilities/equipment don't mean crap. When I was in high school one of our league members was this rich school. They had all the best equipment, the nicest facilities, and best uniforms. They still were awful and usually finished within the bottom 3 teams of the league. Another school in the league was a "poor" school with crappy equipment. They typically finished top 2 in the league every year. Having nice equipment simply means you have nice equipment. Nothing more, nothing less. I always thought it was badass when a team with ugly crappy uniforms would woop up on a team with nice gear.
Ben is wrong here. The answer is Cornell University. The Friedman Center went up in 2002, and since then the Big Red have not finished lower than 12 at Nationals and have 18 top nine team finishes in the 21 national tournaments which have taken place since then. Before the Friedman was built and opened, Cornell never finished higher than 10th (1993) and had the following team results at nationals between 1993 and 2002: '94 - 17th, '95 - 56th, '96 - 42nd, '97 - 41st, '98 - 67th, '99 - 36th, '00 - 34th, '01 - 28th, '02 - 18th.
@TWM2975 Ben is right. You are wrong. In 2002 Travis Lee started his career at Cornell. He was the catalyst to the success of Cornell, not the facilities.
@TWM2975 it's funny how wrong you are. Travis Lee being a 4x AA and 2x NCAA Champ from a no name state like Hawaii had a MUCH bigger impact on the program than new fancy facilities. The fact you can't see this shows you know very little about athletics. It's funny how you mention 2002... which is the EXACT timeliness when Travis Lee was a wrestler there. Rob Koll has even stated in interviews that Lee was the spark to the program, but you seem to think you know more than Koll I guess.
Ben is wrong here. The answer is Cornell University. The Friedman Center went up in 2002, and since then the Big Red have not finished lower than 12 at Nationals and have 18 top nine team finishes in the 21 national tournaments which have taken place since then. Before the Friedman was built and opened, Cornell never finished higher than 10th (1993) and had the following team results at nationals between 1993 and 2002: '94 - 17th, '95 - 56th, '96 - 42nd, '97 - 41st, '98 - 67th, '99 - 36th, '00 - 34th, '01 - 28th, '02 - 18th.
The same logic would therefore apply that if you live in a mansion and there’s a family living there, that family is a lot better in every human way than families living in standard housing. There’s tons of wealthy people living in big beautiful homes and driving nice expensive cars, but live miserable lives. Nice experience material possessions is not what makes, a person great.
With schools looking to cut wrestling programs a new or updated facility shows a commitment to wrestling and that is as important as anything. Good luck recruiting a wrestler at Stanford, just saying.
I guess they think it’s an arms race or keeping up with the Jones’s type of deal. Someone must of been giving Ben a hard time about it’s because he’s calling them “dummies”
Its almost like to be good in wrestling or weightlifting, the grittyness of a shithole room is a necessity. If you take a look at the weight rooms the vast majority of Mr. Olympias trained in, they were scraping by with whatever equipment their got their hands on.
At least Iowa can lose in nice surroundings then. Until Iowa has the majority of the team be 3-4 year starters, and develop wrestlers to peak as a senior, they are going to be looking up at someone else. Tom doesn’t have a viable plan to make this happen.
Ben is wrong here. The answer is Cornell University. The Friedman Center went up in 2002, and since then the Big Red have not finished lower than 12 at Nationals and have 18 top nine team finishes in the 21 national tournaments which have taken place since then. Before the Friedman was built and opened, Cornell never finished higher than 10th (1993) and had the following team results at nationals between 1993 and 2002: '94 - 17th, '95 - 56th, '96 - 42nd, '97 - 41st, '98 - 67th, '99 - 36th, '00 - 34th, '01 - 28th, '02 - 18th.
to play devils advocate - I have been training in many shit holes throughout my life, and being in a nice fancy gym often makes me feel good. that's about it really.
It doesnt matter if yoire iowa and yoi already have a cool room. Many lower divisions do changw their trajectory when they get a new room. Like ucm jist got a room. Didnt havw one for 10 years.
Yeah but nice wrestling rooms are nice. I could wear some shitty velcro wrestling shoes and they’d have no impact on my performance. I’d still prefer a nice pair though
Michigan improved significantly after they got their new facility. Michigan State has had the crappiest room in the Big 10 forever and they'll continue to remain the crappiest team in the Big 10. Michigan States locker room is like a moldy broom closet for real.
Ben is wrong here. The answer is Cornell University. The Friedman Center went up in 2002, and since then the Big Red have not finished lower than 12 at Nationals and have 18 top nine team finishes in the 21 national tournaments which have taken place since then. Before the Friedman was built and opened, Cornell never finished higher than 10th (1993) and had the following team results at nationals between 1993 and 2002: '94 - 17th, '95 - 56th, '96 - 42nd, '97 - 41st, '98 - 67th, '99 - 36th, '00 - 34th, '01 - 28th, '02 - 18th.
34 Trillion in debt with assets so ginormous that it dwarfs into insignificance. Ben has been reading too much Mises, the most math illiterate economist ever.
@@MNaeem5 Askren mentioned it in the video. Title IX created equity for mens and womens sports--creating double the financial losses. For example, pretty much anything aside from football and men's basketball are not revenue-generating sports, thus operating at net losses. That's men's and women's swimming & diving, lacrosse, cross country, soccer, track & field, rifle, baseball, softball, gymnastics, cheer, and more. So I see what he's saying, though I disagree that Title IX killed men's wrestling, it's certainly not irrelevant from an operating expenses perspective.
@@frankiecal3186 if you're sexist just say that. Title IX did a great thing by creating opportunities for women that they previously did not have. Revenue from men's programs was already being distributed across other men's programs. Instead of attacking Title IX, you could simply get rid of all non-revenue generating sports, which for most universities includes baseball, lacrosse, swimming & diving, track & field, cross country, soccer, and more (i.e., everything but basketball and football). In fact, I I would argue it _saved_ women's wrestling, as if it weren't for opportunities at the NAIA level then our international women's wrestling wouldn't have this sustained level of success.
Iran, Türkiye, Dagestanis; we don't have fancy facilities. There goes another argument for you Mr. Askren. 🔩 Sure it can help but marginally. Coaching, Exercise & Diet Wisdom + Psychology management are the main wrestling components. This isn't F1. 🪚
Yep totally agree.
The only thing I want as a coach is lots of mat space and that is for safety reasons so kids aren't landing on each other.
Tom Brand's new lifelong enemy.
Looks like Ben is hitting the weights and eating great. Dude, you’re looking jacked and healthy.
Congrats bro.
Now write a book about so we can all get rid of the Dad bods
Okay you don’t need an expensive room obviously but it literally helps loving the environment of where you work so it matters a little since you’ll be spending a lot of time there. Plus having weights and a wrestling room in the same facility saves a lot of travel. At ASU we had the weight room a couple miles away!
You just need the space. Doesn't need to be fancy but need the room so you don't have to go run while the other guys wrestle. I had to roll out the mats in the cafeteria when i was growing up.
Usually the winning happens before the program gets new facilities.
I consider AWA as a nice facility. Looks perfect. You don't need a nice facility but it's nice to have a nice facility. I think every wrestling room should be at minimum what the AWA is
To make a whole program, my 12 year old son wrestles at three clubs. Two are in metal garage sheds and one is the Stanford wrestling room. Gotta say, my boy learns just as well in the garages. He still likes the Stanford room a lot.
The new Iowa facility was donated money and very little fundraising. It does matter for recruiting. Coaching does ultimately matter the most.
Better example is Cuba's wrestling team facility
Like Gordon Gekko said “Give me guys who are poor, smart and hungry”🤣
100% correct. Gable's old fieldhouse facility was absolutely Spartan. The wrestlers Lewis, Banachs, etc. got their water out of a garden hose in the fieldhouse weight room.
something else i have always pondered is the progression of one’s mind as they move through their life journey and expectations of quality and comfort. if your elementary school is brand new and cutting-edge technology you may never attend a school or work in a building as nice for the rest of your life. in a marathon the physiological result of passing vs being passed is real. i think high schools and middle schools pursuing high level facilities are setting kids up for massive let downs as it relates to athlete expectations.
He hurt feelings with his honest take yet again. Keep it up!!! Nice work here.
Ben is wrong here. The answer is Cornell University. The Friedman Center went up in 2002, and since then the Big Red have not finished lower than 12 at Nationals and have 18 top nine team finishes in the 21 national tournaments which have taken place since then. Before the Friedman was built and opened, Cornell never finished higher than 10th (1993) and had the following team results at nationals between 1993 and 2002: '94 - 17th, '95 - 56th, '96 - 42nd, '97 - 41st, '98 - 67th, '99 - 36th, '00 - 34th, '01 - 28th, '02 - 18th.
All you need is a wrestling mat, and facilities for a shit, shower, and shave, and you're all set.
with hot water
Uco is a great example
I’d be interested to see who has the best team with the worst/least expensive room. I think you have a point but all the teams with the best facilities also have the best teams. Now is a new facility worth 25 million? Maybe not, but any state of the art facility these days costs a fortune and nice facilities certainly do bring in better recruits. No real way to prove this point but if you stuck Penn States team in a crappy little hole in the wall with old mats and poor accommodations their recruiting would no doubt suffer. Cael doesn’t use his room as a selling point because they have comparable rooms to all the top tier programs and their best selling point is their results. Having top notch facilities also doesn’t hurt when giving tours to rich donors because rich folks tend to like to be associated with nice things.
Reminds me of the analogy of an entrepreneur's investment in a liberal arts BA degree. Instead of socking away $150k in liberal arts prior to launching your startup, why not use the $150k to promote your startup while you learn liberal arts on RUclips for free. Investing in recruitment research and development, NIL, transfer portal, and RTC will generate better outcomes in performance than a better wrestling room facility.
Greatest grappling mind of our time
Great teams should have great facilities. They bring in the money and it should be spent on them. Put Cael in a dark basement wrestling room with old half broke equipment, and Cael will speak up.
Wrong…Cael never speaks
@@youtubesucks7384 he spoke when he left his alma mater in the cover of night, brought his entire crew and 5 star recruits with him
Ben is seldom wrong with his opinions on anything concerning wrestling. It’s been talked, I listen. If Ben gives advice, I write it down.
Ben is wrong here. The answer is Cornell University. The Friedman Center went up in 2002, and since then the Big Red have not finished lower than 12 at Nationals and have 18 top nine team finishes in the 21 national tournaments which have taken place since then. Before the Friedman was built and opened, Cornell never finished higher than 10th (1993) and had the following team results at nationals between 1993 and 2002: '94 - 17th, '95 - 56th, '96 - 42nd, '97 - 41st, '98 - 67th, '99 - 36th, '00 - 34th, '01 - 28th, '02 - 18th.
@@TWM2975anecdote
LA Crosse just moved into their new facility and I believe finished third. Eau Claire also just moved into their in the past year and vaulted to top 5 this year.
EC got Fader. It's the coach. You proved the point. Lax has been good for many years.
Would you rather stay at Aria or the Imperial Palace while in Vegas?
There's no imperial palace anymore. Got a name change and an upgrade.
It's all about your coaching staff.
Ons oefen stoei in 'n ou perdestal wat verander was in 'n skaap voerkraal, wat daarna verander was in 'n stoeiklub.
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Almost every wrestling power got a brand new facility
that AWA room looks pretty nice though 😂
Ben is wrong here. The answer is Cornell University. The Friedman Center went up in 2002, and since then the Big Red have not finished lower than 12 at Nationals and have 18 top nine team finishes in the 21 national tournaments which have taken place since then. Before the Friedman was built and opened, Cornell never finished higher than 10th (1993) and had the following team results at nationals between 1993 and 2002: '94 - 17th, '95 - 56th, '96 - 42nd, '97 - 41st, '98 - 67th, '99 - 36th, '00 - 34th, '01 - 28th, '02 - 18th.
Be honest, did u like your own comment?
@@Ruthless-1699 not nearly as much as "u" did!
Coaches matter!
“It’s coaching, dummies” retweet
Some of the best gyms and fighters have come from gyms that look they are out of business or to broke to fix up.😂
I agree 100% with Ben Askren. Fancy facilities/equipment don't mean crap. When I was in high school one of our league members was this rich school. They had all the best equipment, the nicest facilities, and best uniforms. They still were awful and usually finished within the bottom 3 teams of the league. Another school in the league was a "poor" school with crappy equipment. They typically finished top 2 in the league every year. Having nice equipment simply means you have nice equipment. Nothing more, nothing less. I always thought it was badass when a team with ugly crappy uniforms would woop up on a team with nice gear.
Ben is wrong here. The answer is Cornell University. The Friedman Center went up in 2002, and since then the Big Red have not finished lower than 12 at Nationals and have 18 top nine team finishes in the 21 national tournaments which have taken place since then. Before the Friedman was built and opened, Cornell never finished higher than 10th (1993) and had the following team results at nationals between 1993 and 2002: '94 - 17th, '95 - 56th, '96 - 42nd, '97 - 41st, '98 - 67th, '99 - 36th, '00 - 34th, '01 - 28th, '02 - 18th.
@TWM2975 Ben is right. You are wrong. In 2002 Travis Lee started his career at Cornell. He was the catalyst to the success of Cornell, not the facilities.
@combatspeed6392 that is a MAJOR stretch, but believe what you will.
@TWM2975 it's funny how wrong you are. Travis Lee being a 4x AA and 2x NCAA Champ from a no name state like Hawaii had a MUCH bigger impact on the program than new fancy facilities. The fact you can't see this shows you know very little about athletics. It's funny how you mention 2002... which is the EXACT timeliness when Travis Lee was a wrestler there. Rob Koll has even stated in interviews that Lee was the spark to the program, but you seem to think you know more than Koll I guess.
@@combatspeed6392 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Not disagreeing with your point... but Cambell? Yea, they got Kolat, but they also got a new facility... Just saying, I named one.
Ben is wrong here. The answer is Cornell University. The Friedman Center went up in 2002, and since then the Big Red have not finished lower than 12 at Nationals and have 18 top nine team finishes in the 21 national tournaments which have taken place since then. Before the Friedman was built and opened, Cornell never finished higher than 10th (1993) and had the following team results at nationals between 1993 and 2002: '94 - 17th, '95 - 56th, '96 - 42nd, '97 - 41st, '98 - 67th, '99 - 36th, '00 - 34th, '01 - 28th, '02 - 18th.
The same logic would therefore apply that if you live in a mansion and there’s a family living there, that family is a lot better in every human way than families living in standard housing. There’s tons of wealthy people living in big beautiful homes and driving nice expensive cars, but live miserable lives. Nice experience material possessions is not what makes, a person great.
Spartan over Luxurious
With schools looking to cut wrestling programs a new or updated facility shows a commitment to wrestling and that is as important as anything. Good luck recruiting a wrestler at Stanford, just saying.
Maybe just a wrestling room weight room
*pans around to show a nice ass wrestling room lol
I get what hes saying about d1 though
Ben to Iowa!
I guess they think it’s an arms race or keeping up with the Jones’s type of deal.
Someone must of been giving Ben a hard time about it’s because he’s calling them “dummies”
Its almost like to be good in wrestling or weightlifting, the grittyness of a shithole room is a necessity. If you take a look at the weight rooms the vast majority of Mr. Olympias trained in, they were scraping by with whatever equipment their got their hands on.
At least Iowa can lose in nice surroundings then.
Until Iowa has the majority of the team be 3-4 year starters, and develop wrestlers to peak as a senior, they are going to be looking up at someone else. Tom doesn’t have a viable plan to make this happen.
Cael didn't say anything because he doesn't give away his secrets.
What would you do if you were a high school coach? What are some things you think high school coaches could improve at across the board?
Ohio State has actually performed worse since getting the Covelli Center. Is it because of the new facility? No, but interesting data wise
100% accurate
Ben is wrong here. The answer is Cornell University. The Friedman Center went up in 2002, and since then the Big Red have not finished lower than 12 at Nationals and have 18 top nine team finishes in the 21 national tournaments which have taken place since then. Before the Friedman was built and opened, Cornell never finished higher than 10th (1993) and had the following team results at nationals between 1993 and 2002: '94 - 17th, '95 - 56th, '96 - 42nd, '97 - 41st, '98 - 67th, '99 - 36th, '00 - 34th, '01 - 28th, '02 - 18th.
to play devils advocate - I have been training in many shit holes throughout my life, and being in a nice fancy gym often makes me feel good. that's about it really.
It doesnt matter if yoire iowa and yoi already have a cool room.
Many lower divisions do changw their trajectory when they get a new room. Like ucm jist got a room. Didnt havw one for 10 years.
Yeah but nice wrestling rooms are nice. I could wear some shitty velcro wrestling shoes and they’d have no impact on my performance. I’d still prefer a nice pair though
Michigan improved significantly after they got their new facility. Michigan State has had the crappiest room in the Big 10 forever and they'll continue to remain the crappiest team in the Big 10. Michigan States locker room is like a moldy broom closet for real.
Ben is wrong here. The answer is Cornell University. The Friedman Center went up in 2002, and since then the Big Red have not finished lower than 12 at Nationals and have 18 top nine team finishes in the 21 national tournaments which have taken place since then. Before the Friedman was built and opened, Cornell never finished higher than 10th (1993) and had the following team results at nationals between 1993 and 2002: '94 - 17th, '95 - 56th, '96 - 42nd, '97 - 41st, '98 - 67th, '99 - 36th, '00 - 34th, '01 - 28th, '02 - 18th.
Need to use the money for at least 20 wrestling scholarships
Campbell
34 Trillion in debt with assets so ginormous that it dwarfs into insignificance. Ben has been reading too much Mises, the most math illiterate economist ever.
Enjoy the content post frl
Wrestlers don't need fancy anything
You will never convince the Chris Bono apologizers.
Can you explain this?
Chris Bono is a turd bag for a coach.
Title 9 killed men's wrestling.
Title 9? Mens wrestling is not dead at all and Title 9 is irrelevant to the topic
@@MNaeem5 It took money from Division 1 mens programs and gave it to women who never earned it. Title 9 is theft.
@@MNaeem5 Askren mentioned it in the video. Title IX created equity for mens and womens sports--creating double the financial losses. For example, pretty much anything aside from football and men's basketball are not revenue-generating sports, thus operating at net losses. That's men's and women's swimming & diving, lacrosse, cross country, soccer, track & field, rifle, baseball, softball, gymnastics, cheer, and more. So I see what he's saying, though I disagree that Title IX killed men's wrestling, it's certainly not irrelevant from an operating expenses perspective.
@@frankiecal3186 if you're sexist just say that. Title IX did a great thing by creating opportunities for women that they previously did not have. Revenue from men's programs was already being distributed across other men's programs. Instead of attacking Title IX, you could simply get rid of all non-revenue generating sports, which for most universities includes baseball, lacrosse, swimming & diving, track & field, cross country, soccer, and more (i.e., everything but basketball and football).
In fact, I I would argue it _saved_ women's wrestling, as if it weren't for opportunities at the NAIA level then our international women's wrestling wouldn't have this sustained level of success.
@kristopherwilson506 No sexism dummy. Just stop lying and tell the truth. If you cough, it's considered sexist nowadays. I'm tired of the lies.
College wrestling needs 12 weight classes.
Is awa making money
Look at pictures of their class sizes. And they are in a small town in Wisconsin. Low overhead, high attendance, gotta be making it.
coaching. That's about it.
Iran, Türkiye, Dagestanis; we don't have fancy facilities. There goes another argument for you Mr. Askren. 🔩
Sure it can help but marginally. Coaching, Exercise & Diet Wisdom + Psychology management are the main wrestling components. This isn't F1. 🪚