Critical race theory attributes original sin to people based soley on their skin color. How anyone thinks that is compatible with the gospel is a mystery to me.
Greatly appreciate your comments on this. Very sad that activists are trying to change even the nature of Christ to suit their agendas. Please keep calling it out, sunlight is the best disinfectant ☀️😎
The Doctrine of Christ is key! We need to see that. That is what the Book of Mormon is about. It is the tool against those attacks. Thanks for replying to that.
"Sometimes from behind the pulpit, in our classrooms, in our Council meetings and in our church publications we hear, read or witness things that do not square with the truth. . . . Now do not let this serve as an excuse for your own wrongdoing. The Lord is letting the wheat and the tares mature before he fully purges the Church. He is also testing you to see if you will be misled. The devil is trying to deceive the very elect.” Ezra Taft Benson, “Our Immediate Responsibility” (BYU Devotional, Provo, October 25, 1966)
@@Mama_298 many are waking up now but we need more to awaken. I believe constitution won't be saved in DC but will be saved by righteous men and women that will bear it up, defend it, and continue to abide by it precepts. " I have faith that the Constitution will be saved as prophesied by Joseph Smith. But it will not be saved in Washington. It will be saved by the citizens of this nation who love and cherish freedom. It will be saved by enlightened members of this Church-men and women who will subscribe to and abide by the principles of the Constitution." (The constitution-heavily banner, Ezra Taft Benson).
Wow, it always gets deeper. When George Floyd died I became a die-hard BLM activist. After a few months, I felt something was very wrong in my life. I hadn’t been reading the scriptures or praying, so I began. As I read the Book of Mormon, it became so clear to me that what I was doing and believing clearly wasn’t lining up with doctrine. I started getting curious about what exactly we were dealing with here. Why were soooo many people adopting this, even in the church? As I looked into it, it just kept going and going and going! It was like a rabbit hole. I learned about victimhood and socialism, communism and Marx, postmodernism and anti-racism, critical race theory and other critical theories and on and on. And now another underlying layer: liberation theory. I guess it makes sense that all along it was about Christ.
Your comment gives me hope that people who have supported BLM wholeheartedly are capable of abandoning it as much as they first supported it. I can't count people who are diehard BLM followers as a lost cause. Everyone can learn more and see the error of their ways. God bless.
It makes me so happy to hear your story!! I’ve been praying that good hearted people will wake up and not be deceived. There really are so many good hearted people who were and are being deceived by the counterfeits of the adversary. But light casts out darkness. We, like you, need to have open, sincere hearts and seek the light.
@@sistermarch660 while it may be so disheartening to see so many supporting a cause that is so decisive, you are absolutely right to believe that everyone can learn and progress. I was very pro BLM as well last year, but after noticing some inconsistencies and actually studying the movement I moved far away from it. There are many many more with similar stories, but unfortunately are discouraged from speaking up.
Thanks for the comments and support, you guys! Yes, I believe a lot of people who support BLM aren't "lost causes". Some don't know what they're supporting exactly, some have "debris" in their lives as President Nelson talked about in his welcome address in April general conference. I find when there is bitterness, anger, unwillingness to forgive...then these people may be more likely to support the movement. I TRY really hard to remind myself that love, patience and my example will do more to bring people to Christ than anything else. And when someone is drawing closer and closer to Christ, "the philosophies of men" become easier to separate out from truth.
Wow, you did a great job bringing it home at the end. I agree. In the months since I’ve become aware of CRT and it’s incongruity with the gospel, I’ve slowly come to realize that pointing out CRT flaws could never be enough. We have to live the gospel like never before. All-in.
When I explain to my children modern philosophies such as CRT and other ideas being crammed down our collective throat, I remind them that, quite literally, the most sacred gift in existence is agency. All stop. Imagine what Heavenly Father was willing to do to ensure we had agency. He was willing to allow the most horrific and terrible things to occur on earth, without interceding, because agency trumps everything. And every bit of so-called social justice and post modern philosophy is anti-agency. We should absolutely give freely and help those in need. Vigorously. But when done at gun point it quite literally becomes simply an extension of Lucifer’s plan.
We have been warned, "In coming days, it will not be possible to survive spiritually without the guiding, directing, comforting, and constant influence of the Holy Ghost." President Russell M. Nelson April 2018.
We had more harmony between races in America when we shared the culture of the country and focused on what we had in common instead of differences. CRT only creates more racism, it does not reduce or mitigate the problem. As we share the culture of the church together, we will be able to overcome all barriers and unite with saints of all different types across the planet regardless of our different situations.
Are you speaking as an American Indian or African American or even Asian over the generations living in America? Perhaps if you're saying to forget past and recent history and even current happenings then I can see that forgetting means things were and have been good for everyone. If you mean the shared culture of the country to be American Indian then I agree with you. I don't believe though as colonials and today that we have done a good job with sharing culture. We have done a good job marginalizing and removing certain cultures from our history which still has ramifications today.
@@Apbt-rv7zw shared culture starts with uniting and being proud to be an American. Proud of all the good American is and stands for-life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. America is supposed to be a huge melting pot. It’s not supposed to be like a meal served on a divided platter.
@@lt7963 Do you think American Indians feel proud to be in this melting pot and that they would consider it a shared culture? What you suggest sounds very utopian, I wonder if you spoke to first nations people if they consider it Utopia? Remember diversity is one of Gods wonders. I think sometimes those who don't like diversity want to change the narrative from diversity to division. For diversity to thrive restitution as taught by the gospel is a saving principle.
@@Apbt-rv7zw Are you American Indian? I’ve noticed some people are offended for groups they are not members of. And if a member of that group isn’t offended then that’s also offensive. It’s fine to advocate for others but in trying to fix problems it’s wise not to create new ones.
@@lt7963 Wise people right the wrongs caused by others previously. William Wilburforce, Hannah More and Granville Sharp were responsible for the abolition of slavery in the UK. They weren't African, you don't have to be of any particular race to know something is good or bad. Even suggesting that you have to be of some particular group to know how oppression feels is divisive. If God has taken His gospel to all people of the world, then all people irrespective of race or culture can see the good and bad fruits of man.
I appreciate your perspective in this discussion. The culture war is so tribalistic that it is hard to find good discussions on the topic that aren’t based in pure resentment for the other side. I love that your podcasts are done in a spirit of edification rather than simply trying to tear down the bad guy.
I wish I could remember that quote, I can't even remember who said it, that said that when the Savior returns many will be surprised that His politics do not fit into how the world considers politics. People will have to let go of certain notions in order to follow Him. Something like that. I'm poorly paraphrasing it.
Yes. Crt is the antithesis of the gospel. When you began talking I was reminded of how the Jews were looking for the Messiah to liberate them from Rome, whereas He came to liberate us from sin. The inward oppressor rather than outward.
Cwic is right...I appreciate every episode and am grateful to have his knowledge and expertise on such things as crt. We have to be informed..we have a responsibility to be aware and act appropriately. Thank you Gregg...dont be disillusioned by those that disagree..we need to stay on the path and hold to the rod. Knowing the tactics of Satan is very important.
I appreciate how you break down the distinctions between Liberation Theology and Salvation Theology. There never was an "us vs them" thing occurring. That had more to do with a small fraction of a bigger movement (name the movement). The fraction that was controlled by the press, mainly. We miss a lot of the great things that were going on IN SPITE of said movements. It's actually amazing that we accomplished so much, as a people, (of all backgrounds) while these movements were occurring. We must understand that, if Christ was a "liberation theologian" then he HAD to be, by definition, a respecter of persons. Which he wasn't when he came the first time, nor is he now. We MUST learn to Hear Him AND to EXPERIENCE him. My own experiences help me understand why Joseph Smith was an anomaly within his own circle of friends. Some who even shared those experiences walked away for selfish reasons. Just yesterday, I mentioned in Sunday School that many members of the church don't think they have anything to repent of. The whole class laughed. Not in a mocking way, but in a way that said that they knew they needed repentance. But (in the same setting) someone had a bad relationship with a family member because they both wanted THEIR way to be RIGHT. There was no discussion of being in the wrong at all. Not that they were wrong on the point, but wrong on the intention and enforcement of their "right" position. I don't know if I am stating this correctly, but our relationships can be healed through repentance. It's these same relationships that are ripping our country apart right now. But the people don't seem to think it's an important thing to seek forgiveness for. smh. That was a bit long winded, but I hope someone reads this who needs it. I know you're broken hearts can be healed. That your love can be made manifest...as soon as you "make a way" to Christ. Thank you.
I appreciate you bring this to the forefront. I need to know what is happening in our society and what we need to do as Latter-day Saints. This is going to separate the Wheat from the Tares.
Loved your analysis. My main problem with CRT is its direct attack against the unified state of the righteous as described in 4 Nephi 1:17: "There were no robbers, nor murderers, neither were there Lamanites, nor any manner of ites; but they were in ONE, the children of Christ, and heirs to the kingdom of God."
Unfortunately, CRT, like many tools of Marxism, are designed to fool those who are unaware of their intentions. They use good sounding words and change their definitions to gain adherents who don't realize they are beinig led away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Very enlightening, an objective discussion and comprehensive enough to make everyone aware of the dangers of leaning to critical race theory rather than holding on firmly to the true Doctrine and teachings of Christ. Thank you! Very much appreciated!
Thanks for your channel and insight. I've seen these new ideologies take root in my old ward and stake in Idaho. My family and I moved 40 miles away to a more rural area and I see it creeping in. My experience has been that truth requires effort. Human nature dictates we take easy route, and falsehoods are always easier to believe.
I've enjoyed Jonathan Haidt, as he explores three great untruths that are prevalent on college campuses. 1-) What doesn't kill you makes you weaker; 2-) Always trust your feelings; and 3-) The world is made up of good people and bad people. Each of these untruths is instilled in the belief system of critical theory, intersectionality, and feminism. I don't fault anyone for believing in these untruths, as they sound empathetic and compassionate. Yet, they result in a truth that we often blind ourselves to--the best of intentions can lead to the greatest harm. I truly enjoy listening to these videos, as they provide my overly active brain a way to reflect on the gospel in relation to this world, and cause me to think on what I can do to further my understanding of the doctrine of Christ.
If crt draws people away from the gospel, then other doctrine could also pull them away to false doctrine, if you are not led by the holy ghost you are at risk by those seeking to confuse the seekers of truth.. .
BYU, (all campuses), was established by the church under the direction of Jesus Christ. The motto and scripture that are set in stone at the entrance of (at least) BYU Provo, are, “ Enter To Learn, Go Forth To Serve”, and “ The Glory Of God Is Intelligence”. BYU is very heavily supported by the SACRED tithing dollars sacrificed by the Saints. It would not exist without these funds.The mission of BYU is to further the knowledge of, and increase testimonies of the truthfulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Secondly, it is to provide education and skills to our youth so that they can support themselves and their families and increase the talents that the Lord has given them.Thereby BYU furthers the Lord’s work by strengthening individuals, families, and wards. The brethren are above the school administration, and they take both the mission of BYU and the students entrusted to BYU very seriously. We must bring to their attention the faculty members who are teaching these Marxist, conspiratorial lies. Parents try so hard to help their children build testimonies of Jesus Christ. Many hope to send them to BYU where they can be apart from much of the wickedness that is rampant on other college campuses. These parents have every right to demand that their student is taught truth. How ironic it is that these kids are coming back home indoctrinated in Satan’s theology! There should be new classes developed and required for every student, one teaching the history of America’s wars. The Civil War, and how throughout the history of the world (and slavery has always been found in every civilization) America has been the ONLY nation to fight a war to free slaves. Other things, most young people know nothing about is Stalin and the 10’s of millions of Russian citizens he killed, or Mao, and his 100 million. They don’t know the history of slavery, or the origins of antifa (1932 Germany, and after WWII, they became Communist East Germany’s ruthless Stasi ). They don’t know critical race theory has bounced around since the 1960’s as a front to camouflage socialist ( Satanic) ideals aimed at destroying families and destabilizing democracy. This gaping hole in education is being filled at lightening speed with lies spread by the same types of anti-Christs that we read about in the Bible, and we are SPECIFICALLY warned about in the Book of Mormon. Every member, with or without a BYU student, will be affected by this, because these are, if they don’t fall away from the gospel, ( as nearly half of our young people are) are the future Bishops, teachers and leaders in our church. So we must all raise our voices and make sure the Brethren and BYU’s President(s) and administration take urgent and drastic action. This is a testing time for the survival of “The Title of Liberty”. It’s our turn, it all rests on our shoulders, we cannot fail!
I don’t know why everyone wants to talk about race, the only reason u bring up the past is to learn from it not re-live it or to point fingers. It should be said, follow the 2 greatest commandments and treat others like you would like to be treated.
So glad I found your channel! I've been very concerned with critical race theory and feminism infiltrating the LDS. . I stayed away from churches and Christianity in general because as a non-christian, I could outwit most Christians I met on the bible! But My local LDS missionaries were able to back up everything they said with biblical scripture This new....branch of church members point only to a loose interpretation of a brief part of a scripture.
It's so very important and the Prophets and Apostels have continually encouraged and entreated us to study the Scriptures and the Gospel ourselves. We cannot expect to be spoon fed. We need to and are told to search out the truths of the Gospel through scripture study, reading past talks, studying history itself teaches us amazing thing. Study and read from all good books as Joseph Smith taught. Of course prayer is an essential part of studying. We need to know for ourselves whether something is true or not. With this last general conference we were again told to study things for ourselves and not expect the Prophets to (in my words) spoon fed us every step of the way. We are the ones who builds on our personal testimony or not. We decided if we are to be wheat or tares.
I’m grateful for your videos on critical theory, and I’m very much looking forward to the next one that you mentioned. I have wondered while watching each one so far what the Brethren have said, if anything, to warn us about this. I know they often speak in general terms, and I understand their desire to unite rather than divide. But I’m hoping there is something they have said to which I can refer my children in order to help them decide to reject this current effort by Satan to divide God’s followers.
..victimhood and blame are traits that were typical of unenlightened Lamanite generations in the Book of Mormon. Australia and New Zealand are currently facing an indigenous backlash, which is gathering momentum as academia and perceived social injustices, provide answers to the ills faced in democracies, in a South Pacific Pacific context. It would be interesting to see whether the saints in the other Southern Pacific Islands would fall prey to the current narrative of decolonization and liberation theology. The difference here must be drawn to other islands in the North Pacific, and whether a new generation of Lamanites will play the same blame game.
@@glenda7800 I think often those in the USA forget that the majority of LDS are outside the USA and are also not white. I live in Africa were the majority of LDS are not white and CRT is being pushed here by mostly non LDS but it is seeping into the church. It is making what was an already difficult situation so much worse.
@@mysikind8076 That's terrible to hear! Fueling hatred & disdain for others does no one any good. But your clarification as to members throughout the world is a very positive thing & that the Church has become more inclusive of all of Heavenly Father's children!!
Thank you very much for doing this series on CRT I didn’t know anything about. I greatly appreciate your willingness and knowledge in educating us and showing how the war in heaven continues over agency!!! We must all do our part!!
Great video as always. I'm always impressed with how well you're able to concisely convey these concepts; the Lord has blessed you. I am curious about ONE thing; the Ouroboros image. Do you mind doing a quick explanation in one of your future videos as to why you chose that symbol? If you already have, I am a new subscriber and haven't had time to go through older videos - yet.
Yes! Thank you! The Brazen Serpent, One Eternal Round, Creation, Order and Chaos, Resurrection. I am making a slight change to the logo but will stick with the Ouroboros.
I will say it again...you are very brave Greg! Thank you for your voice and willingness to bring these messages to us. Even though I don't have kids at home anymore, I have grandchildren going into adulthood and they are talking about this and wanting to know my opinion. To some I'm old fashioned to some I'm crazy. But like you I will promote the Doctrine of Christ. Thank you.
It was a war of words our first estate and we are going through a war of words in our second estate. It will soon get to a point where physical war is eminent
There are examples where the Lord's prophets politicized things; Moses, Elijah and others. BUT... Usually we are tested as the Jews were by their political oppressers; whom will you choose? The political activist, Barrabas, working to over throw their Roman masters or choose Jesus who says render unto Caesar etc. and offers instead, to focus on the eternal kingdom? The people selected Barrabas to be freed, politics over their souls.
I am curious to know what you know about the You Tube channel FAITH MATTERS FOUNDATION? I have watch things on there a few times, but I get an uneasy feeling. Something just doesn't feel right about it.
The base belief of these theologies and ideologies is that in order for me to rise, I need to tear others down. I am not willing to do that. I will rise to my own potential and leave everyone else to rise to theirs as well. I understand that some have felt that they have been pushed down and not allowed to rise, and it makes sense that they feel the "push downers" need to be knocked off their own platforms, but I believe we need to find another way instead of knocking others down. Honestly, Jesus is the only one who can guide us through this conundrum. The rest of us don't know and understand enough to do it on our own.
Actually, Joanna Brooks has been very outspoken about her lack of belief in the Church. She has described her participation as more of a social connection. She seems to be a leader of a group of people who feel the need to correct and fix the Church, and recognize they can spread their "questions" and undermine the faith of those who aren't well equipped to recognize their strategy. The disbelieve virtuall all of the structure and organization of the Church and official doctrine, and yet keep their membership and regularly express their dissatisfaction.
the part about critical race theory being all about the needs and benefits of the group collectively, reminds me about the gospel teaching of how salvation is an individual matter, but exaltation is a family (collective) matter. Is it possible that those who are pushing CRT are doing so believing that it is the exaltation level ideology of human culture? obviously even if that was their belief it would be putting the cart before the horse, because those to whom they are attributing the most holy of virtues and most innocent of intentions, are most often those whom are furthest from salvation, spiritually. However, is it possible that this is the justifying perspective that those pushing CRT have, and that is why they believe it to be a good and beneficial ideology/movement? If this is the case it seems it is an entitlement issue, where they believe they are due the glory and reward without going through the necessary prerequisite steps of repentance unto salvation. and because they are skipping a step they are unable to seek after the exaltation level unity with the proper perspective and love and harmony which it is meant to be viewed. In a way it is a move to steal the throne/glory of God. and is in perfect alignment with the plan of the adversary even from the foundations of creation, in that it takes a generally good or worthwhile idea, and turns it into something damaging and detrimental to all it touches, because of the improper manner it's implemented and unholy attitude towards it.
You are getting very close to something I have been developing over the last couple of years. I will get into that down the road a bit. It has everything to do with the priesthood and the temple.
@@CwicShow YES! I have thought that as well. Just figured I'd refrain from going that deep in this thread, since I wasn't sure how deeply others would like to delve into it all. It all has a form of godliness but denies the power (source) thereof. It sorta reminds me a lot of Paganism. Has all the same archetypal meaning and supposed goals, but none of the line upon line, proper chronology of events and progression about it. Trying to jump to the hight of possible outcomes and potentials without proper learning or authority to do so.
I have listened to this twice over to try to absorb all that is being said, it's overwhelming. First off, I don't think the Church will ever get out in front of the curve on this issue. Fair Mormon can produce as many videos addressing this as they like and start tomorrow, but it's like shadow boxing. I do disagree with you about white Latter Day Saints not "doing their parts or not taking care of business" (I'm paraphrasing), and contributing to the problem, ie racism and white supremacy in the Church. I think the fertile soil that grows this kind of philosophy is in the self-loathing and self flagellating Western European societies that seeks redemption, but instead gets more distain heaped upon them. In addition many thought leaders within the Black community who seek for unity and redemption are dismissed out of hand, cancelled and/or labeled "white supremacists" themselves. I personally am tired of the perpetual brow-beating on the matter.
I agree on the Church not being out in front of it. I know they get briefed on a lot of things but I don't know if they have the street smart people telling them what's going on with this. People don't realize we are reaching a tipping point with this already.
I really enjoyed this segment. However, something you stated near the end reminded me of something that has been bothering me for some time now. You stated, "We need to focus on more of an outreach…That’s part of the problem. We are asked to gather Israel… This is about doing what we should have been doing but not acquiesce in any way to this pernicious doctrine. We need to gather Israel. We need to love our brothers and sisters of all races and all backgrounds and all cultures.” What has really been driving me up the wall lately is “gathering Israel” isn’t all of a sudden, a new concept and Commandment when President Nelson became our Prophet. We’ve been “gathering Israel” since the beginning with the Prophet Joseph. Families, individuals and the Church as a whole have sacrificed so much to take the Gospel to the islands of the sea, to the Asian, African, and Latin countries and to so many more. Everyone is acting like this is something new and that we all of a sudden have, among the rank-and-file members, some kind of massive racist tendency and hatred for other races and cultures. For the last couple of General Conferences, members have been “called out” for this supposed racism. Why now? Wouldn’t this have been apparent for a few decades? Where’s the bona fide proof of racism within the Church? In my 40+ years since being cognizant of racism, I have NEVER witnessed any disgusting acts of racism against my non-white brothers and sisters. I can only conclude alternate possibilities - 1. Racism has begun to permeate among the younger generations. 2. Racism has been redefined and everyone is falling for this redefinition (including Church leaders). 3. Racism is the new buzzword (which it really isn’t) and everyone is anxious to get on the bandwagon to “appear” like they really care. Whatever the case, to equate some apparent lack of Gathering Israel with racism simply isn't right.
It is the Black Live Matter movement. For all its flaws, it heightens awareness. In addition, like the talk from Pres Benson on the Book of Mormon in the 80's, we are to focus on this more than before. It's not like the B of M wasn't there since 1830, it is another layer for a now more prepared church. I see it the same way. I believe Pres Nelson sees a large "gathering" with people of African descent in the very near future. He is steering the Church in that direction.
@@CwicShow I think that's a great direction... BUT let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Let's not destroy the faith of faithful members of the Church by lumping everyone into some kind of racist bubble in order to make in-roads with African countries.
@@austinmartineau5227 I don't see that at all. Most members of the Church are not even US citizens. This is not "reparations" or "white guilt". This is charity and building relationships.
@@CwicShow You've certainly given me lots to think about. However, part of my issue is if what you say is correct, then there really needs to be more direct and clear condemnation of this CRT and Liberation Theology by our leaders. Otherwise, their silence on the matter is deafening and combined with everything else I mentioned, "white guilt" would be a possible assumption. Their lack of condemnation and even their great direction have lead many church members to support these false doctrines, using leader's words as justification. I am seeing this among several in my own ward.
It wasn’t mentioned but how Africans couldn’t have the priesthood in the past is an issue. I have seen other denominations affected by critical race theory too. Professors at Christian college were fired so speaking against it.
I have read a few of Joanna Brooks' books. You said she was an active member of the Church. I find that hard to believe. So much of what she writes is in complete disharmony of core Gospel teachings. I have also found a lot of her writings and ideas to be ideological/theoretical and can not be backed up in facts.
I've heard that many times before from people that claim they are just exploring their faith. Then they leave the faith. I have also known people who come to church (I really don't know why) but believe so many things that are in complete opposition to the Savior's teachings. But I have never met someone who believes and follows the philosophies of the world and can justify their position. But thank you for responding.
4 Nephi tells us that one of the main drivers of the downfall of the Nephites was racism. It started with pride, which divided the people into classes, and their society split along racial lines. The cure for all this is humility.
I agree with the humility part. I do not agree with the race. That's really not what the book of Mormon is about at all. Most of the book of Mormon is about the dissenters from the nephites who went over to the lamanites. That's where almost all of the battles are.
@@CwicShow I was talking about 4 Nephi. During the time they had a Zion society, there were no "-ites." They were all treated equally. As their society deteriorated, they divided back up into their classes, and it was along racial lines.
I haven't heard anything yet, but I live halfway across the world and haven't checked my mail notifications yet. RS and all young ladies from 8 years and up were incl in one session last conference I watched. I really liked that Mothers, daughter, sisters etc were all attending together to listen to the Prophet. If the same is done with the Priesthood I can't see this as a bad thing. Opens up the teachings to all so as women or men they can discuss what was taught and be able to share ones thoughts or ask questions from others in the family. We are teaching more in the family because I believe it's going to be more home based because of the times we are living in.
John 17 looks like their moving us to a oneness. If this is true i have not heard this. Get ready to impart of your substance and im not talking ur 10 percent. 10 percent is to tune u to 100 percent.
Might as well, as soon as they started to let non adults attend the talks and how they talked to the audience changes... you can't talk adult subjects with youth included.
Sophists and elitist intellectuals are ever learning but never coming to an understanding of the truth. There is none so lost as he erroneously convinced of his own erudition.
Yes, the politcol ideology of CRT has no place in Christianity. It's antiithetical to the doctrine of Christ. The desire to be compassionate blinds well meaning people.
The only question I have to ask is why did you use the term “LDS Jesus”? Don’t you think we have enough problems with other beliefs without fanning the flames. There are a lot of members out there trying to debunk this myth of there being more than one Jesus.
What I meant by this was the Doctrine of Christ. There are several doctrines abut Christ. One that is strongly on the move is Christ as Liberator, Liberation Theology. That was my intent.
"Seek this Jesus" is a phrase unique to Moroni's writing in the Book of Mormon, so it baffles me that you characterize the Maxwell Institute's choice of language as "not what you would usually hear in Latter-day Saint vernacular." On the contrary, it would *only* come from Latter-day Saints. Also, you're forcing a false choice between salvation and liberation as if they were mutually exclusive. There's no need to choose between the two, as they are not incompatible.
I disagree. Though Moroni certainly states this, his words are sparingly repeated in the Church. In regards to Salvation or Liberation Theology, it is undeniable that one outweighs the other depending on your doctrine and that Liberation Theology has reigned supreme over Salvation Theology in the Jewish tradition and often in the Book of Mormon. There is a choice. There has always been a choice. This is always what the definition of "Messiah" comes down to. Thanks for watching.
"Though Moroni certainly states this, his words are sparingly repeated in the Church." Granting this premise, the phrase was used in two separate talks just in April General Conference. In light of this, again it baffles me that you suggest this is somehow not "Latter-day Saint vernacular" and that the Maxwell Institute is being influenced more by academia than by our own unique scripture and the recent use of this phrase by an apostle in conference. It feels like you're looking for evidence to back up your claims and so ignoring the more likely explanation. "it is undeniable that one outweighs the other depending on your doctrine." I mean, you can emphasize different aspects of Christ's saving role, certainly. But again, there's no need to insist that they're mutually exclusive, since in scriptural language salvation is liberation and liberation is salvation. You can believe in both; millions of Christians do.
@@nathanphair2054 I think it was pretty clear that I support the Maxwell Institute. If you study the expansion of Liberation Theology in mainstream Christianity, I do not see how you can come to your conclusion. Entire movements and religions are based on the difference of these two "aspects". Doctrine is not only a "truth" to follow, but a value placed in a hierarchal structure that changes entire belief systems. Just as Jesus gave us the two great commandments, one must reign over the other. If not, everything falls apart. And that is what is happening to many Christian sects. I have friends high up in a couple of these denominations and they are in a battle for exactly this. Let's revisit this in five years and see where things stand. Let's see if the rivalry between these "mutually exclusive" doctrines has not been an issue in Christianity or if they have begun to tear it apart.
"I think it was pretty clear that I support the Maxwell Institute." Sort of? You say that, and then say "but I do find it interesting that that language is starting to be used." Again, this is a strong implicit suggestion that the Maxwell Institute is somehow more influenced by academia than the faith they follow. "Let's revisit this in five years and see where things stand. Let's see if the rivalry between these 'mutually exclusive' doctrines has not been an issue in Christianity or if they have begun to tear it apart." I'm not sure this is necessary, given liberation theory's and critical race theory's decades-long history with Christianity at this point. But sure, we can revisit in five years.
@@nathanphair2054 Very odd that you even care about the rivalry between Liberation Theology and Savior Theology. discounting the ground Liberation Theology has gained in the last 3 years is a denial of truth. Why are you pushing back so much? Do you know what is happening at the Southern Baptist Convention or with the Church of England? why the adversarial approach to this? In regards to MI, I think we're splitting hairs at this point.
God is racist if you look deep into Christianity. Genesis 3:15 “And I will put enmity (hatred) between thee and the woman and between thy seed and her seed, he (her seed) shall bruise thy (his seed’s) head and thou (his seed) shalt bruise his (her seed’s) heel. (Parentheses added for clarification.) Which if you believe the Bible God doesn’t seem to have any problem with racism. But God is perfect in declaring who is who and we are not so hence the problem and the allure of CRT. Not to mention that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints at one time taught the blacks where of the seed of Cain and the seed of Cain were implied to be the seed of the Serpent (Satan), Cain having been marked by God (Genesis 4:15) so that no one would slay him. (Allowing Cain to have seed.) It is traditionally viewed that the mark was a ‘dark skin’. Whether this mark is indeed a dark skin and is truth I cannot say but it is what has been taught and used by CRT to further support their claims. Having said all that, I don’t believe God is racist over the color of one’s skin but the color of one’s heart. Which is what I believe is the true message in scripture.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints was reestablished to the earth. because of mans corruption of Heavenly Fathers Church. Looks like the Church needs another visit......
Perhaps it is better for the church to surgically remove (church disiplinary court) this cancer than to let this cancer stay in the body and spread throughout the whole body.
The leaders of the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints has never lead any positive movement to create a better relationship between the races. All positive changes happened with the church resisting in the name of God claiming its the devils plan or a communist plot. The church has create a fear between the races ,literally putting your salvation and church APOSTASY between us. No, the church doesn't teach this anymore but they quote and hold these men in unparallel esteem. You're are encouraging the same fear with similar theology. Most black people want the same thing white people want, I'm confuse . One can mistakenly say the creater of the hammer was unaware that it can be used to hit people in the head but that was not the purpose. It took us 200 years to learn that we can safely pee in the same restroom maybe there's more for us to learn. Peace
@@CwicShow if you review what the Prophets said about civil rights, racial equality, desegregation, MLK, and the NAACP you will notice similarities , You only replaced the word communists with Marxist.
Wanting restitution for those who are oppressed doesn't mean you are dissenting from the doctrine of Christ. In fact I would say wanting restitution/reparations is by no means political but a spiritual principle as taught by the Gosple of Christ. Faith Repentance and baptism. Key to Repentance is restitution. Becacause we can't step out of the laws of the land it is these very laws that bring about reparations. Liberation theology is the culmination of individuals seeking the Spirit of the Lord to bring a Zion people. If you only leave it at the individual level... not a lot gets achieved with out the combined efforts working within the frame work of the law. Otherwise Jim Crow would still be a thing if not for certain key individuals making the subject known to the wider world.
@@JanicasJourney Thanks for your question. A key ingredient to repentance is restitution / reparations. If all we do is confess our sins (trials, shortcomings) and do no more than feel sorry for our cause of trials; then we have fallen short to act to make amends. The key ingredient is restore (restitution/reparations) what was lost. Restitution embraces the person(s) who has suffered the injustice. What's really interesting is that restitution doesn't necessarily have to come from the perpetrator(s), restitution can come from anyone (group) that regognised the need This is what happened with the The Good Samaritan, while not committing the crime against the Samaritan. The passing Jew also didn't want to fall guilty to the sin of omission. This Jew restituted to the Samaritan his health as well as made reparations to those charged with the care for the Samaritan to ensure he was made whole again. This is a great example of how the Lord shows His love for us and what He expects of His children.
So why should I as an individual take part in reparations when I have never owned or sold a slave nor any of my ancestors. Reparations are good on an individual basis and circumstance. And who is going to control all these reparations and decide when it's done? Articles if faith says it all. We are responsible for our own individual sins and not for some else's. CRT wants me to repent for someone else and that ain't happening!
@@Apbt-rv7zw hmm. I don't know. I can't put my finger on it, but they're is something in your comment and reply that doesn't feel right to me. I agree part of repentance is doing our best to make things right on our end. But Christ makes up the difference for anything else that may be lost or broken. Ultimately it is us who is changed through repentance. I don't think it is our responsibility or even capability to repent for the sins of others. You kind of make it sound like the good Samaritan was repenting for the sins of the others. In my eyes and understanding of the scriptures, he was not giving restitution or reparations. He was giving charity, which is the love of Christ. He was giving service, giving of his time and money. That is beyond restitution or reparations.
@@FromG2eminor Hi Lisa and I guess that's the issue for many that coming to understand the need for restitution. If we say we are not culpable for past events then we also have to say that present circumstances are all good that people of today are united and we are achieving or have achieved a Zion like people. If hand on heart we can say we have achieved Zion, then All is Well in Zion. If we can't then it's obvious we have a lot of work to do. Just like we do with genealogy we act in proxy for our dead. Repentance is the same in that we Act or take action for wrongs that have occurred in the past so that our present and future trend toward Zion. The 2nd part of your question is who will control all these reparations. In other countries where this has happened and happening; at a National and provincial level or a Federal and State/County level. The Federal gov't along with the concerned party draw up a framework on how reparations / restitution will be enacted. Once agreed too these agreements become law and reparations begin. This form of restoration goes as shown in other countries a long way to healing past wounds. To deny that wounds exist just means the problem gets shuffled to the next generation. We can always cover our ears and eyes and sing Kumbaya but that tactic isn't working as you can tell.
Critical race theory attributes original sin to people based soley on their skin color. How anyone thinks that is compatible with the gospel is a mystery to me.
Precisely
Greatly appreciate your comments on this. Very sad that activists are trying to change even the nature of Christ to suit their agendas. Please keep calling it out, sunlight is the best disinfectant ☀️😎
The Doctrine of Christ is key! We need to see that. That is what the Book of Mormon is about. It is the tool against those attacks. Thanks for replying to that.
"Sometimes from behind the pulpit, in our classrooms, in our Council meetings and in our church publications we hear, read or witness things that do not square with the truth. . . . Now do not let this serve as an excuse for your own wrongdoing. The Lord is letting the wheat and the tares mature before he fully purges the Church. He is also testing you to see if you will be misled. The devil is trying to deceive the very elect.” Ezra Taft Benson, “Our Immediate Responsibility” (BYU Devotional, Provo, October 25, 1966)
Very relevant quote.
Excellent quote 💪
Ezra Taft Benson passed away in May of 1994. So the devotional had to before October 25, 1996.
@@Mephisto7529, yes, good catch. That is 1966 not 1996. I will make the change
@@Mama_298 many are waking up now but we need more to awaken.
I believe constitution won't be saved in DC but will be saved by righteous men and women that will bear it up, defend it, and continue to abide by it precepts.
" I have faith that the Constitution will be saved as prophesied by Joseph Smith. But it will not be saved in Washington. It will be saved by the citizens of this nation who love and cherish freedom. It will be saved by enlightened members of this Church-men and women who will subscribe to and abide by the principles of the Constitution."
(The constitution-heavily banner, Ezra Taft Benson).
Wow, it always gets deeper. When George Floyd died I became a die-hard BLM activist. After a few months, I felt something was very wrong in my life. I hadn’t been reading the scriptures or praying, so I began. As I read the Book of Mormon, it became so clear to me that what I was doing and believing clearly wasn’t lining up with doctrine. I started getting curious about what exactly we were dealing with here. Why were soooo many people adopting this, even in the church? As I looked into it, it just kept going and going and going! It was like a rabbit hole. I learned about victimhood and socialism, communism and Marx, postmodernism and anti-racism, critical race theory and other critical theories and on and on. And now another underlying layer: liberation theory. I guess it makes sense that all along it was about Christ.
Your comment gives me hope that people who have supported BLM wholeheartedly are capable of abandoning it as much as they first supported it. I can't count people who are diehard BLM followers as a lost cause. Everyone can learn more and see the error of their ways. God bless.
It makes me so happy to hear your story!! I’ve been praying that good hearted people will wake up and not be deceived. There really are so many good hearted people who were and are being deceived by the counterfeits of the adversary. But light casts out darkness. We, like you, need to have open, sincere hearts and seek the light.
@@sistermarch660 while it may be so disheartening to see so many supporting a cause that is so decisive, you are absolutely right to believe that everyone can learn and progress. I was very pro BLM as well last year, but after noticing some inconsistencies and actually studying the movement I moved far away from it. There are many many more with similar stories, but unfortunately are discouraged from speaking up.
Thank you for your courage and willingness to change. We all have views in our lives that we need to bring closer to the Savior's vision.
Thanks for the comments and support, you guys! Yes, I believe a lot of people who support BLM aren't "lost causes". Some don't know what they're supporting exactly, some have "debris" in their lives as President Nelson talked about in his welcome address in April general conference. I find when there is bitterness, anger, unwillingness to forgive...then these people may be more likely to support the movement. I TRY really hard to remind myself that love, patience and my example will do more to bring people to Christ than anything else. And when someone is drawing closer and closer to Christ, "the philosophies of men" become easier to separate out from truth.
We all need to continually pray for eyes to see & ears to hear and to be able to see things as they really are.
Wow, you did a great job bringing it home at the end. I agree. In the months since I’ve become aware of CRT and it’s incongruity with the gospel, I’ve slowly come to realize that pointing out CRT flaws could never be enough. We have to live the gospel like never before. All-in.
When I explain to my children modern philosophies such as CRT and other ideas being crammed down our collective throat, I remind them that, quite literally, the most sacred gift in existence is agency. All stop. Imagine what Heavenly Father was willing to do to ensure we had agency. He was willing to allow the most horrific and terrible things to occur on earth, without interceding, because agency trumps everything. And every bit of so-called social justice and post modern philosophy is anti-agency.
We should absolutely give freely and help those in need. Vigorously. But when done at gun point it quite literally becomes simply an extension of Lucifer’s plan.
Absolutely true.
I agree totally it’s false charity !
We have been warned, "In coming days, it will not be possible to survive spiritually without the guiding, directing, comforting, and constant influence of the Holy Ghost." President Russell M. Nelson April 2018.
We had more harmony between races in America when we shared the culture of the country and focused on what we had in common instead of differences. CRT only creates more racism, it does not reduce or mitigate the problem.
As we share the culture of the church together, we will be able to overcome all barriers and unite with saints of all different types across the planet regardless of our different situations.
Are you speaking as an American Indian or African American or even Asian over the generations living in America?
Perhaps if you're saying to forget past and recent history and even current happenings then I can see that forgetting means things were and have been good for everyone.
If you mean the shared culture of the country to be American Indian then I agree with you. I don't believe though as colonials and today that we have done a good job with sharing culture. We have done a good job marginalizing and removing certain cultures from our history which still has ramifications today.
@@Apbt-rv7zw shared culture starts with uniting and being proud to be an American. Proud of all the good American is and stands for-life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. America is supposed to be a huge melting pot. It’s not supposed to be like a meal served on a divided platter.
@@lt7963 Do you think American Indians feel proud to be in this melting pot and that they would consider it a shared culture?
What you suggest sounds very utopian, I wonder if you spoke to first nations people if they consider it Utopia?
Remember diversity is one of Gods wonders. I think sometimes those who don't like diversity want to change the narrative from diversity to division. For diversity to thrive restitution as taught by the gospel is a saving principle.
@@Apbt-rv7zw Are you American Indian? I’ve noticed some people are offended for groups they are not members of. And if a member of that group isn’t offended then that’s also offensive. It’s fine to advocate for others but in trying to fix problems it’s wise not to create new ones.
@@lt7963 Wise people right the wrongs caused by others previously. William Wilburforce, Hannah More and Granville Sharp were responsible for the abolition of slavery in the UK. They weren't African, you don't have to be of any particular race to know something is good or bad. Even suggesting that you have to be of some particular group to know how oppression feels is divisive.
If God has taken His gospel to all people of the world, then all people irrespective of race or culture can see the good and bad fruits of man.
I appreciate your perspective in this discussion. The culture war is so tribalistic that it is hard to find good discussions on the topic that aren’t based in pure resentment for the other side. I love that your podcasts are done in a spirit of edification rather than simply trying to tear down the bad guy.
This is one of my favorite comments!
I wish I could remember that quote, I can't even remember who said it, that said that when the Savior returns many will be surprised that His politics do not fit into how the world considers politics. People will have to let go of certain notions in order to follow Him. Something like that. I'm poorly paraphrasing it.
Yes. Crt is the antithesis of the gospel. When you began talking I was reminded of how the Jews were looking for the Messiah to liberate them from Rome, whereas He came to liberate us from sin. The inward oppressor rather than outward.
I appreciate you bring this to the forefront. I need to know what is happening in our society and what we need to do as Latter-day Saints.
Cwic is right...I appreciate every episode and am grateful to have his knowledge and expertise on such things as crt. We have to be informed..we have a responsibility to be aware and act appropriately. Thank you Gregg...dont be disillusioned by those that disagree..we need to stay on the path and hold to the rod. Knowing the tactics of Satan is very important.
I appreciate how you break down the distinctions between Liberation Theology and Salvation Theology. There never was an "us vs them" thing occurring. That had more to do with a small fraction of a bigger movement (name the movement). The fraction that was controlled by the press, mainly.
We miss a lot of the great things that were going on IN SPITE of said movements. It's actually amazing that we accomplished so much, as a people, (of all backgrounds) while these movements were occurring.
We must understand that, if Christ was a "liberation theologian" then he HAD to be, by definition, a respecter of persons. Which he wasn't when he came the first time, nor is he now.
We MUST learn to Hear Him AND to EXPERIENCE him.
My own experiences help me understand why Joseph Smith was an anomaly within his own circle of friends. Some who even shared those experiences walked away for selfish reasons.
Just yesterday, I mentioned in Sunday School that many members of the church don't think they have anything to repent of. The whole class laughed. Not in a mocking way, but in a way that said that they knew they needed repentance. But (in the same setting) someone had a bad relationship with a family member because they both wanted THEIR way to be RIGHT. There was no discussion of being in the wrong at all. Not that they were wrong on the point, but wrong on the intention and enforcement of their "right" position.
I don't know if I am stating this correctly, but our relationships can be healed through repentance. It's these same relationships that are ripping our country apart right now. But the people don't seem to think it's an important thing to seek forgiveness for. smh.
That was a bit long winded, but I hope someone reads this who needs it. I know you're broken hearts can be healed. That your love can be made manifest...as soon as you "make a way" to Christ.
Thank you.
At least half of any argument is just wanting to be "right".
I appreciate you bring this to the forefront. I need to know what is happening in our society and what we need to do as Latter-day Saints. This is going to separate the Wheat from the Tares.
Loved your analysis. My main problem with CRT is its direct attack against the unified state of the righteous as described in 4 Nephi 1:17: "There were no robbers, nor murderers, neither were there Lamanites, nor any manner of ites; but they were in ONE, the children of Christ, and heirs to the kingdom of God."
This is exactly right.
LDS supporters of CRT should spend some time reading the Articles of Faith.
Excellent!
Unfortunately, CRT, like many tools of Marxism, are designed to fool those who are unaware of their intentions. They use good sounding words and change their definitions to gain adherents who don't realize they are beinig led away from the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Very enlightening, an objective discussion and comprehensive enough to make everyone aware of the dangers of leaning to critical race theory rather than holding on firmly to the true Doctrine and teachings of Christ. Thank you! Very much appreciated!
Thanks for your channel and insight. I've seen these new ideologies take root in my old ward and stake in Idaho. My family and I moved 40 miles away to a more rural area and I see it creeping in. My experience has been that truth requires effort. Human nature dictates we take easy route, and falsehoods are always easier to believe.
Thanks for sharing!
I've enjoyed Jonathan Haidt, as he explores three great untruths that are prevalent on college campuses. 1-) What doesn't kill you makes you weaker; 2-) Always trust your feelings; and 3-) The world is made up of good people and bad people. Each of these untruths is instilled in the belief system of critical theory, intersectionality, and feminism. I don't fault anyone for believing in these untruths, as they sound empathetic and compassionate. Yet, they result in a truth that we often blind ourselves to--the best of intentions can lead to the greatest harm.
I truly enjoy listening to these videos, as they provide my overly active brain a way to reflect on the gospel in relation to this world, and cause me to think on what I can do to further my understanding of the doctrine of Christ.
That's the intent!
Love Jonathan Haidt!
Morgan Freeman had the simple solution, STOP TALKING ABOUT IT!
If crt draws people away from the gospel, then other doctrine could also pull them away to false doctrine, if you are not led by the holy ghost you are at risk by those seeking to confuse the seekers of truth.. .
Hey, man. I discovered your channel recently & it's been good to see someone sharp out there putting up the good fight. Keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
Thank you. So good.
Thank you!
BYU, (all campuses), was established by the church under the direction of Jesus Christ. The motto and scripture that are set in stone at the entrance of (at least) BYU Provo, are, “ Enter To Learn, Go Forth To Serve”, and “ The Glory Of God Is Intelligence”. BYU is very heavily supported by the SACRED tithing dollars sacrificed by the Saints. It would not exist without these funds.The mission of BYU is to further the knowledge of, and increase testimonies of the truthfulness of the gospel of Jesus Christ. Secondly, it is to provide education and skills to our youth so that they can support themselves and their families and increase the talents that the Lord has given them.Thereby BYU furthers the Lord’s work by strengthening individuals, families, and wards. The brethren are above the school administration, and they take both the mission of BYU and the students entrusted to BYU very seriously. We must bring to their attention the faculty members who are teaching these Marxist, conspiratorial lies. Parents try so hard to help their children build testimonies of Jesus Christ. Many hope to send them to BYU where they can be apart from much of the wickedness that is rampant on other college campuses. These parents have every right to demand that their student is taught truth. How ironic it is that these kids are coming back home indoctrinated in Satan’s theology!
There should be new classes developed and required for every student, one teaching the history of America’s wars. The Civil War, and how throughout the history of the world (and slavery has always been found in every civilization) America has been the ONLY nation to fight a war to free slaves. Other things, most young people know nothing about is Stalin and the 10’s of millions of Russian citizens he killed, or Mao, and his 100 million. They don’t know the history of slavery, or the origins of antifa (1932 Germany, and after WWII, they became Communist East Germany’s ruthless Stasi ). They don’t know critical race theory has bounced around since the 1960’s as a front to camouflage socialist ( Satanic) ideals aimed at destroying families and destabilizing democracy.
This gaping hole in education is being filled at lightening speed with lies spread by the same types of anti-Christs that we read about in the Bible, and we are SPECIFICALLY warned about in the Book of Mormon.
Every member, with or without a BYU student, will be affected by this, because these are, if they don’t fall away from the gospel, ( as nearly half of our young people are) are the future Bishops, teachers and leaders in our church. So we must all raise our voices and make sure the Brethren and BYU’s President(s) and administration take urgent and drastic action.
This is a testing time for the survival of
“The Title of Liberty”. It’s our turn, it all rests on our shoulders, we cannot fail!
Sir, Great presentation very informative. Stay strong
I don’t know why everyone wants to talk about race, the only reason u bring up the past is to learn from it not re-live it or to point fingers. It should be said, follow the 2 greatest commandments and treat others like you would like to be treated.
So glad I found your channel! I've been very concerned with critical race theory and feminism infiltrating the LDS. . I stayed away from churches and Christianity in general because as a non-christian, I could outwit most Christians I met on the bible! But My local LDS missionaries were able to back up everything they said with biblical scripture
This new....branch of church members point only to a loose interpretation of a brief part of a scripture.
It's so very important and the Prophets and Apostels have continually encouraged and entreated us to study the Scriptures and the Gospel ourselves. We cannot expect to be spoon fed. We need to and are told to search out the truths of the Gospel through scripture study, reading past talks, studying history itself teaches us amazing thing. Study and read from all good books as Joseph Smith taught. Of course prayer is an essential part of studying. We need to know for ourselves whether something is true or not. With this last general conference we were again told to study things for ourselves and not expect the Prophets to (in my words) spoon fed us every step of the way. We are the ones who builds on our personal testimony or not. We decided if we are to be wheat or tares.
You are doing such important work! Thank you so much for putting all this out there. I can’t wait for the next one!
More to come!
I’m grateful for your videos on critical theory, and I’m very much looking forward to the next one that you mentioned. I have wondered while watching each one so far what the Brethren have said, if anything, to warn us about this. I know they often speak in general terms, and I understand their desire to unite rather than divide. But I’m hoping there is something they have said to which I can refer my children in order to help them decide to reject this current effort by Satan to divide God’s followers.
..victimhood and blame are traits that were typical of unenlightened Lamanite generations in the Book of Mormon. Australia and New Zealand are currently facing an indigenous backlash, which is gathering momentum as academia and perceived social injustices, provide answers to the ills faced in democracies, in a South Pacific Pacific context. It would be interesting to see whether the saints in the other Southern Pacific Islands would fall prey to the current narrative of decolonization and liberation theology. The difference here must be drawn to other islands in the North Pacific, and whether a new generation of Lamanites will play the same blame game.
Very interesting & informative. Probably most of us in the continental U.S., & maybe in other areas of the world, are unaware of this rising problem.
@@glenda7800 I think often those in the USA forget that the majority of LDS are outside the USA and are also not white. I live in Africa were the majority of LDS are not white and CRT is being pushed here by mostly non LDS but it is seeping into the church. It is making what was an already difficult situation so much worse.
@@mysikind8076 That's terrible to hear! Fueling hatred & disdain for others does no one any good. But your clarification as to members throughout the world is a very positive thing & that the Church has become more inclusive of all of Heavenly Father's children!!
Thank you very much for doing this series on CRT I didn’t know anything about. I greatly appreciate your willingness and knowledge in educating us and showing how the war in heaven continues over agency!!! We must all do our part!!
More to come!
Great video as always. I'm always impressed with how well you're able to concisely convey these concepts; the Lord has blessed you.
I am curious about ONE thing; the Ouroboros image. Do you mind doing a quick explanation in one of your future videos as to why you chose that symbol? If you already have, I am a new subscriber and haven't had time to go through older videos - yet.
Yes! Thank you!
The Brazen Serpent, One Eternal Round, Creation, Order and Chaos, Resurrection.
I am making a slight change to the logo but will stick with the Ouroboros.
I will say it again...you are very brave Greg! Thank you for your voice and willingness to bring these messages to us. Even though I don't have kids at home anymore, I have grandchildren going into adulthood and they are talking about this and wanting to know my opinion. To some I'm old fashioned to some I'm crazy. But like you I will promote the Doctrine of Christ. Thank you.
Yes it is ruining families. And churches.
It was a war of words our first estate and we are going through a war of words in our second estate. It will soon get to a point where physical war is eminent
I have been warning my ward leaders for several years. We are facing a huge problem...
There are examples where the Lord's prophets politicized things; Moses, Elijah and others. BUT... Usually we are tested as the Jews were by their political oppressers; whom will you choose? The political activist, Barrabas, working to over throw their Roman masters or choose Jesus who says render unto Caesar etc. and offers instead, to focus on the eternal kingdom? The people selected Barrabas to be freed, politics over their souls.
Yes, Barabbas plays the role of the political Messiah that was wanted, Jesus is sacrificed and plays the role of the Savior.
I am curious to know what you know about the You Tube channel FAITH MATTERS FOUNDATION? I have watch things on there a few times, but I get an uneasy feeling. Something just doesn't feel right about it.
It has its "leanings". The founders are good people. Terryl Givens is on there a lot and he is gold!
Thank you for sharing this much needed information. Looking forward to more.
Man love this guy, not nearly enough mormon voices like yours in the dialogue around current issues.
Appreciate it!
I think every LDS member should memorize the 13 Articles of Faith.
Wise.
The base belief of these theologies and ideologies is that in order for me to rise, I need to tear others down. I am not willing to do that. I will rise to my own potential and leave everyone else to rise to theirs as well. I understand that some have felt that they have been pushed down and not allowed to rise, and it makes sense that they feel the "push downers" need to be knocked off their own platforms, but I believe we need to find another way instead of knocking others down. Honestly, Jesus is the only one who can guide us through this conundrum. The rest of us don't know and understand enough to do it on our own.
And, of course, everyone thinks they know what Jesus SHOULD do!
And maybe help each other rise.
Actually, Joanna Brooks has been very outspoken about her lack of belief in the Church. She has described her participation as more of a social connection. She seems to be a leader of a group of people who feel the need to correct and fix the Church, and recognize they can spread their "questions" and undermine the faith of those who aren't well equipped to recognize their strategy. The disbelieve virtuall all of the structure and organization of the Church and official doctrine, and yet keep their membership and regularly express their dissatisfaction.
Jesus is NOT an old hippie. It doesn’t matter who you think he is... it only matters WHO HE IS.
the part about critical race theory being all about the needs and benefits of the group collectively, reminds me about the gospel teaching of how salvation is an individual matter, but exaltation is a family (collective) matter.
Is it possible that those who are pushing CRT are doing so believing that it is the exaltation level ideology of human culture?
obviously even if that was their belief it would be putting the cart before the horse, because those to whom they are attributing the most holy of virtues and most innocent of intentions, are most often those whom are furthest from salvation, spiritually. However, is it possible that this is the justifying perspective that those pushing CRT have, and that is why they believe it to be a good and beneficial ideology/movement?
If this is the case it seems it is an entitlement issue, where they believe they are due the glory and reward without going through the necessary prerequisite steps of repentance unto salvation. and because they are skipping a step they are unable to seek after the exaltation level unity with the proper perspective and love and harmony which it is meant to be viewed. In a way it is a move to steal the throne/glory of God. and is in perfect alignment with the plan of the adversary even from the foundations of creation, in that it takes a generally good or worthwhile idea, and turns it into something damaging and detrimental to all it touches, because of the improper manner it's implemented and unholy attitude towards it.
You are getting very close to something I have been developing over the last couple of years. I will get into that down the road a bit. It has everything to do with the priesthood and the temple.
@@CwicShow YES! I have thought that as well. Just figured I'd refrain from going that deep in this thread, since I wasn't sure how deeply others would like to delve into it all.
It all has a form of godliness but denies the power (source) thereof.
It sorta reminds me a lot of Paganism. Has all the same archetypal meaning and supposed goals, but none of the line upon line, proper chronology of events and progression about it. Trying to jump to the hight of possible outcomes and potentials without proper learning or authority to do so.
I have listened to this twice over to try to absorb all that is being said, it's overwhelming. First off, I don't think the Church will ever get out in front of the curve on this issue. Fair Mormon can produce as many videos addressing this as they like and start tomorrow, but it's like shadow boxing. I do disagree with you about white Latter Day Saints not "doing their parts or not taking care of business" (I'm paraphrasing), and contributing to the problem, ie racism and white supremacy in the Church. I think the fertile soil that grows this kind of philosophy is in the self-loathing and self flagellating Western European societies that seeks redemption, but instead gets more distain heaped upon them. In addition many thought leaders within the Black community who seek for unity and redemption are dismissed out of hand, cancelled and/or labeled "white supremacists" themselves. I personally am tired of the perpetual brow-beating on the matter.
I agree on the Church not being out in front of it. I know they get briefed on a lot of things but I don't know if they have the street smart people telling them what's going on with this. People don't realize we are reaching a tipping point with this already.
My son in law is black and I love him. He says he got his mother in law right!
question ; is control an illusion ? if not - what happens when a individual recants one’s consent ?
I really enjoyed this segment. However, something you stated near the end reminded me of something that has been bothering me for some time now. You stated, "We need to focus on more of an outreach…That’s part of the problem. We are asked to gather Israel… This is about doing what we should have been doing but not acquiesce in any way to this pernicious doctrine. We need to gather Israel. We need to love our brothers and sisters of all races and all backgrounds and all cultures.”
What has really been driving me up the wall lately is “gathering Israel” isn’t all of a sudden, a new concept and Commandment when President Nelson became our Prophet. We’ve been “gathering Israel” since the beginning with the Prophet Joseph. Families, individuals and the Church as a whole have sacrificed so much to take the Gospel to the islands of the sea, to the Asian, African, and Latin countries and to so many more. Everyone is acting like this is something new and that we all of a sudden have, among the rank-and-file members, some kind of massive racist tendency and hatred for other races and cultures. For the last couple of General Conferences, members have been “called out” for this supposed racism. Why now? Wouldn’t this have been apparent for a few decades?
Where’s the bona fide proof of racism within the Church? In my 40+ years since being cognizant of racism, I have NEVER witnessed any disgusting acts of racism against my non-white brothers and sisters. I can only conclude alternate possibilities - 1. Racism has begun to permeate among the younger generations. 2. Racism has been redefined and everyone is falling for this redefinition (including Church leaders). 3. Racism is the new buzzword (which it really isn’t) and everyone is anxious to get on the bandwagon to “appear” like they really care. Whatever the case, to equate some apparent lack of Gathering Israel with racism simply isn't right.
It is the Black Live Matter movement. For all its flaws, it heightens awareness. In addition, like the talk from Pres Benson on the Book of Mormon in the 80's, we are to focus on this more than before. It's not like the B of M wasn't there since 1830, it is another layer for a now more prepared church. I see it the same way. I believe Pres Nelson sees a large "gathering" with people of African descent in the very near future. He is steering the Church in that direction.
@@CwicShow I think that's a great direction... BUT let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater. Let's not destroy the faith of faithful members of the Church by lumping everyone into some kind of racist bubble in order to make in-roads with African countries.
@@austinmartineau5227 I don't see that at all. Most members of the Church are not even US citizens. This is not "reparations" or "white guilt". This is charity and building relationships.
@@CwicShow You've certainly given me lots to think about. However, part of my issue is if what you say is correct, then there really needs to be more direct and clear condemnation of this CRT and Liberation Theology by our leaders. Otherwise, their silence on the matter is deafening and combined with everything else I mentioned, "white guilt" would be a possible assumption. Their lack of condemnation and even their great direction have lead many church members to support these false doctrines, using leader's words as justification. I am seeing this among several in my own ward.
@@austinmartineau5227 I know.
Wow! It is either CRT or it is CTR..... How true!
I really like how you wrapped it up. I need to revisit it to fully understand better.
We need to "navigate" this. Thank you.
It wasn’t mentioned but how Africans couldn’t have the priesthood in the past is an issue.
I have seen other denominations affected by critical race theory too. Professors at Christian college were fired so speaking against it.
Yes it is in my ward and people don't know what it is about. I tried to explain but they don't want to listen. They think it is good
question ; just how many times does a lie must be repeated , before a lie is accepted as the gospel truth ?
Thank you speaking up about this. Sadly it's something we have to be aware of.
I have read a few of Joanna Brooks' books. You said she was an active member of the Church. I find that hard to believe. So much of what she writes is in complete disharmony of core Gospel teachings. I have also found a lot of her writings and ideas to be ideological/theoretical and can not be backed up in facts.
I agree with the perception of her writings. But she claims to come from a position of faith and activity. I'm just taking her word for it.
I've heard that many times before from people that claim they are just exploring their faith. Then they leave the faith. I have also known people who come to church (I really don't know why) but believe so many things that are in complete opposition to the Savior's teachings. But I have never met someone who believes and follows the philosophies of the world and can justify their position. But thank you for responding.
@@richardrubert3536 All true.
Thank you
4 Nephi tells us that one of the main drivers of the downfall of the Nephites was racism. It started with pride, which divided the people into classes, and their society split along racial lines. The cure for all this is humility.
I agree with the humility part. I do not agree with the race. That's really not what the book of Mormon is about at all. Most of the book of Mormon is about the dissenters from the nephites who went over to the lamanites. That's where almost all of the battles are.
@@CwicShow I was talking about 4 Nephi. During the time they had a Zion society, there were no "-ites." They were all treated equally. As their society deteriorated, they divided back up into their classes, and it was along racial lines.
Any ideas on today's announcement the church is getting rid of priesthood and women's sessions of Saturday night General Conference?
I haven't heard anything yet, but I live halfway across the world and haven't checked my mail notifications yet. RS and all young ladies from 8 years and up were incl in one session last conference I watched. I really liked that Mothers, daughter, sisters etc were all attending together to listen to the Prophet. If the same is done with the Priesthood I can't see this as a bad thing. Opens up the teachings to all so as women or men they can discuss what was taught and be able to share ones thoughts or ask questions from others in the family. We are teaching more in the family because I believe it's going to be more home based because of the times we are living in.
John 17 looks like their moving us to a oneness. If this is true i have not heard this. Get ready to impart of your substance and im not talking ur 10 percent. 10 percent is to tune u to 100 percent.
Might as well, as soon as they started to let non adults attend the talks and how they talked to the audience changes... you can't talk adult subjects with youth included.
Seems they may have cancelled the sat evening session at conference... maybe cos it highlights different roles of women and men
I love your background. It looks so put together. I like your content too. I am also concerned about the topics you are discussing.
if you have anybody in your ward promoting CRT, then do whatever you can to stop it, Even calling the General Authorities if necessary.
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Hello, You are very intelligent my good sir. Keep up the good work.
Hey, thanks
Sophists and elitist intellectuals are ever learning but never coming to an understanding of the truth. There is none so lost as he erroneously convinced of his own erudition.
Yes, the politcol ideology of CRT has no place in Christianity. It's antiithetical to the doctrine of Christ. The desire to be compassionate blinds well meaning people.
Thank you for your insights.
Great video brother!
Thanks for the visit
So good! Thank you!
You are welcome!
More Marx than marks!
Love your videos!!! Thanks so much!!! Love thy neighbor 🌿
Glad you like them!
@@CwicShow please don't ever stop putting it out there :)
That's the plan!
The only question I have to ask is why did you use the term “LDS Jesus”? Don’t you think we have enough problems with other beliefs without fanning the flames. There are a lot of members out there trying to debunk this myth of there being more than one Jesus.
What I meant by this was the Doctrine of Christ. There are several doctrines abut Christ. One that is strongly on the move is Christ as Liberator, Liberation Theology. That was my intent.
"Seek this Jesus" is a phrase unique to Moroni's writing in the Book of Mormon, so it baffles me that you characterize the Maxwell Institute's choice of language as "not what you would usually hear in Latter-day Saint vernacular." On the contrary, it would *only* come from Latter-day Saints. Also, you're forcing a false choice between salvation and liberation as if they were mutually exclusive. There's no need to choose between the two, as they are not incompatible.
I disagree. Though Moroni certainly states this, his words are sparingly repeated in the Church.
In regards to Salvation or Liberation Theology, it is undeniable that one outweighs the other depending on your doctrine and that Liberation Theology has reigned supreme over Salvation Theology in the Jewish tradition and often in the Book of Mormon. There is a choice. There has always been a choice. This is always what the definition of "Messiah" comes down to.
Thanks for watching.
"Though Moroni certainly states this, his words are sparingly repeated in the Church." Granting this premise, the phrase was used in two separate talks just in April General Conference. In light of this, again it baffles me that you suggest this is somehow not "Latter-day Saint vernacular" and that the Maxwell Institute is being influenced more by academia than by our own unique scripture and the recent use of this phrase by an apostle in conference. It feels like you're looking for evidence to back up your claims and so ignoring the more likely explanation.
"it is undeniable that one outweighs the other depending on your doctrine." I mean, you can emphasize different aspects of Christ's saving role, certainly. But again, there's no need to insist that they're mutually exclusive, since in scriptural language salvation is liberation and liberation is salvation. You can believe in both; millions of Christians do.
@@nathanphair2054 I think it was pretty clear that I support the Maxwell Institute. If you study the expansion of Liberation Theology in mainstream Christianity, I do not see how you can come to your conclusion. Entire movements and religions are based on the difference of these two "aspects". Doctrine is not only a "truth" to follow, but a value placed in a hierarchal structure that changes entire belief systems. Just as Jesus gave us the two great commandments, one must reign over the other. If not, everything falls apart. And that is what is happening to many Christian sects. I have friends high up in a couple of these denominations and they are in a battle for exactly this.
Let's revisit this in five years and see where things stand. Let's see if the rivalry between these "mutually exclusive" doctrines has not been an issue in Christianity or if they have begun to tear it apart.
"I think it was pretty clear that I support the Maxwell Institute." Sort of? You say that, and then say "but I do find it interesting that that language is starting to be used." Again, this is a strong implicit suggestion that the Maxwell Institute is somehow more influenced by academia than the faith they follow.
"Let's revisit this in five years and see where things stand. Let's see if the rivalry between these 'mutually exclusive' doctrines has not been an issue in Christianity or if they have begun to tear it apart." I'm not sure this is necessary, given liberation theory's and critical race theory's decades-long history with Christianity at this point. But sure, we can revisit in five years.
@@nathanphair2054 Very odd that you even care about the rivalry between Liberation Theology and Savior Theology. discounting the ground Liberation Theology has gained in the last 3 years is a denial of truth. Why are you pushing back so much? Do you know what is happening at the Southern Baptist Convention or with the Church of England? why the adversarial approach to this?
In regards to MI, I think we're splitting hairs at this point.
CRT is the antithesis of The Gospel of Jesus Christ.
God help us to navigate this gross deception and recognize it for the nehorism that it is!
The apostate Lamanites believed something like critical theory, Alma 54:17
Greg, it won't take five years, probably more like 5 months
Very possibly. Hopefully someone will watch this and write something.
It’s a shame anymore in the Church world think that way.
Woke Jesus and I'm taking a seat out
I like what you have to say. However, please stop saying LDS since The Lord has asked us not to use that title.
Try making a thumbnail and title without it.
Also, LDSliving.com owned by the church. But thanks for watching. I do appreciate it.
God is racist if you look deep into Christianity. Genesis 3:15 “And I will put enmity (hatred) between thee and the woman and between thy seed and her seed, he (her seed) shall bruise thy (his seed’s) head and thou (his seed) shalt bruise his (her seed’s) heel. (Parentheses added for clarification.) Which if you believe the Bible God doesn’t seem to have any problem with racism. But God is perfect in declaring who is who and we are not so hence the problem and the allure of CRT.
Not to mention that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints at one time taught the blacks where of the seed of Cain and the seed of Cain were implied to be the seed of the Serpent (Satan), Cain having been marked by God (Genesis 4:15) so that no one would slay him. (Allowing Cain to have seed.) It is traditionally viewed that the mark was a ‘dark skin’. Whether this mark is indeed a dark skin and is truth I cannot say but it is what has been taught and used by CRT to further support their claims.
Having said all that, I don’t believe God is racist over the color of one’s skin but the color of one’s heart. Which is what I believe is the true message in scripture.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints was reestablished to the earth. because of mans corruption of Heavenly Fathers Church. Looks like the Church needs another visit......
Perhaps it is better for the church to surgically remove (church disiplinary court) this cancer than to let this cancer stay in the body and spread throughout the whole body.
I have learned CRT is not of God.
The leaders of the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day saints has never lead any positive movement to create a better relationship between the races. All positive changes happened with the church resisting in the name of God claiming its the devils plan or a communist plot. The church has create a fear between the races ,literally putting your salvation and church APOSTASY between us. No, the church doesn't teach this anymore but they quote and hold these men in unparallel esteem. You're are encouraging the same fear with similar theology. Most black people want the same thing white people want, I'm confuse . One can mistakenly say the creater of the hammer was unaware that it can be used to hit people in the head but that was not the purpose. It took us 200 years to learn that we can safely pee in the same restroom maybe there's more for us to learn. Peace
You and I both know this has a lot less to do with race than with Marxism/Socialism
@@CwicShow if you review what the Prophets said about civil rights, racial equality, desegregation, MLK, and the NAACP you will notice similarities , You only replaced the word communists with Marxist.
Will not be participating.
This is all about reparations. You know that, right?
that is part of it, but it goes so much deeper than that. It is about total transformation of the culture and the government.
@@CwicShow very true.
Wanting restitution for those who are oppressed doesn't mean you are dissenting from the doctrine of Christ. In fact I would say wanting restitution/reparations is by no means political but a spiritual principle as taught by the Gosple of Christ. Faith Repentance and baptism. Key to Repentance is restitution.
Becacause we can't step out of the laws of the land it is these very laws that bring about reparations. Liberation theology is the culmination of individuals seeking the Spirit of the Lord to bring a Zion people.
If you only leave it at the individual level... not a lot gets achieved with out the combined efforts working within the frame work of the law.
Otherwise Jim Crow would still be a thing if not for certain key individuals making the subject known to the wider world.
@apbt how is restitution the key to repentance?
@@JanicasJourney Thanks for your question. A key ingredient to repentance is restitution / reparations. If all we do is confess our sins (trials, shortcomings) and do no more than feel sorry for our cause of trials; then we have fallen short to act to make amends. The key ingredient is restore (restitution/reparations) what was lost. Restitution embraces the person(s) who has suffered the injustice.
What's really interesting is that restitution doesn't necessarily have to come from the perpetrator(s), restitution can come from anyone (group) that regognised the need
This is what happened with the The Good Samaritan, while not committing the crime against the Samaritan. The passing Jew also didn't want to fall guilty to the sin of omission. This Jew restituted to the Samaritan his health as well as made reparations to those charged with the care for the Samaritan to ensure he was made whole again.
This is a great example of how the Lord shows His love for us and what He expects of His children.
So why should I as an individual take part in reparations when I have never owned or sold a slave nor any of my ancestors. Reparations are good on an individual basis and circumstance. And who is going to control all these reparations and decide when it's done? Articles if faith says it all. We are responsible for our own individual sins and not for some else's. CRT wants me to repent for someone else and that ain't happening!
@@Apbt-rv7zw hmm. I don't know. I can't put my finger on it, but they're is something in your comment and reply that doesn't feel right to me. I agree part of repentance is doing our best to make things right on our end. But Christ makes up the difference for anything else that may be lost or broken. Ultimately it is us who is changed through repentance. I don't think it is our responsibility or even capability to repent for the sins of others. You kind of make it sound like the good Samaritan was repenting for the sins of the others. In my eyes and understanding of the scriptures, he was not giving restitution or reparations. He was giving charity, which is the love of Christ. He was giving service, giving of his time and money. That is beyond restitution or reparations.
@@FromG2eminor Hi Lisa and I guess that's the issue for many that coming to understand the need for restitution. If we say we are not culpable for past events then we also have to say that present circumstances are all good that people of today are united and we are achieving or have achieved a Zion like people.
If hand on heart we can say we have achieved Zion, then All is Well in Zion.
If we can't then it's obvious we have a lot of work to do. Just like we do with genealogy we act in proxy for our dead. Repentance is the same in that we Act or take action for wrongs that have occurred in the past so that our present and future trend toward Zion.
The 2nd part of your question is who will control all these reparations. In other countries where this has happened and happening; at a National and provincial level or a Federal and State/County level. The Federal gov't along with the concerned party draw up a framework on how reparations / restitution will be enacted. Once agreed too these agreements become law and reparations begin. This form of restoration goes as shown in other countries a long way to healing past wounds. To deny that wounds exist just means the problem gets shuffled to the next generation. We can always cover our ears and eyes and sing Kumbaya but that tactic isn't working as you can tell.