Razer Deathstalker V2 Pro Aims at Logitech
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- Опубликовано: 4 окт 2024
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Razer launches the Deathstalker V2 Pro line today aimed squarely at the Logitech G915 - a flagship wireless keyboard that's been in market nearly 3 years. Does the aging G915 hold its own - or is it an easy target for Razer?
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It's good to have some more options in low pro TKL space because there really was only one choice. I also love that it's not overtly gamery, so can actually be takin into an office without the looks lol.
As we've seen, any competition is good so I'm happy to see them jump on this (though I'm frankly surprised it took this long)
Sounds pretty good too. We love to see it
Only one choice? Keychron K1?
would you happen to know who makes the quietest wireless mechanical keyboard from these big manufacturers ?
@@knotsable Everyone keeps mentioning the K1, but I have both the G915 and K1V4, and I can honestly say that G915 beats it in all respects, especially in the typing experience and acoustics. I get that K1 is cheaper, but when it comes to quality, G915 is way better.
@@knotsable You do realize Keychron keyboards tend to have absolutely TERRIBLE latency metrics even when they use optic switches thanks to their absurdly bad controller right? I would avoid KC at all costs if you are interested in gaming.
@@Navhkrin source?
Yours and the Hardware Canucks review convinced me to give this keyboard a shot. Hopefully the transition will be easy, coming from a full size mechanical board.
Glad to see more options in the space. The G915 is a decent board and handy in TKL as a travel option. That name tho
Lol yeah its a lot. I would cringe to death if anyone at the office ever asked me what it was called 😅
My man that was hella smooth 8:17
Such an amazing review once more keep it up and damn the music in those vids such an amazing test keep it up indeed.
is good to see the g915 getting some competition, hopefully that will incentive logitech to do a g915 v2 or something similar
Closest I've ever been to wanting something low profile like this. Nice video man
I'm really hoping that Razer goes way out there and releases a new updated Razer Deathstalker Ultimate which could include a stream deck screen for the numpad and make it hot swap to boot. It would probably cost a lot of $$$ but we need innovation in this space. Great review as always!
I mean at that point you might as well get a TKL or 60% and just buy a stream deck separate. No point in combining the two together when more likely than not one is going to be subpar to other options on the market.
I remembered that with the chroma I used to think it was cool
That Corsair burn was on point!!
4:27 I want that desk mat 😍
keyboard prices going bonkers
The peripheral party analogy makes for a great premise to a hilarious sketch
Loved the Deathstalker lineup. Might pick this up when it goes on sale. Always wanted this to come back even though I know its not everyones cup of tea and theres better options. Also i love the Corsair joke, its on point lol
G915 is still going for 239.99 at my local stores. It goes on sale sometimes but prices have just been like that. I’d say the keychron is close but wireless is just bluetooth so that sucks.
Wireless tech, optical switches, nicer keycaps, usb-c charging, make it kinda hard to beat. I still like full size for work. I’m glad they added media controls to the tkl. It’s not a custom but hey it’s available.
Thanks for the lube syringe link, I've been wanting an alternative to threading the needle with a tiny brush! Also waiting for the TKL version of this. I've always been of the mindset that a truely faster switch has to have a shorter actuation distance. This not only has that, but the optical tech to go with it.
was fully expecting to see an enthusiast take on a "RaZeR" board but happy to see it was reviewed from the pov of a potential buyer
He kept talking about work. There’s zero justification for this as a work keyboard.
@@eclark9965 why not? it's very subtle, minimalistic and silent and all that makes it suitable for work.
@@bwoah9942 because it’s ridiculous overkill and requires 200 dollars plus to obtain.
This keyboard is simply a copycat that took them 3 years to put out.
The 915 isn’t a loud keyboard. It’s slightly louder than this one. That doesn’t mean it’s loud. Did you notice him struggling to separate it at all from Logitechs offering?
I tried them both myself today, the Razor with its linear switches feels very high quality, and has less keycap wobble than the logitech however the Logitech with its tactile switches is still "more fun" to type on. Hard to explain, I guess everyone has to try it out himself. Apart from the microUSB plug I don't see the problem with the Logitech being 3 years old.
I absolutely care, I love my G915’s low profile nature. I like the idea of more durable keycap materials and RGB for keys secondary options especially. However i currently use the Logitech brown switches, I’ve always preferred tactile and silent but haven’t tried either of Razers new low profile switches yet.. I’m definitely going.
Classic Razer misleading/useless marketing talk about their keycap durability. Glad that you pushed them to clarify.
Great content mate :) Thanks, I've been a G915TKL tactile user for a year now and I've liked it. Just got new Logitech MX Keys Mech Mini for office use and I might switch my home G915TKL to that as well. Dude, do a review on that unit as well - it's actually awesome (for coding and gaming) 🤓
Not interested in full keyboards.
60% is my fav and it's hard to go back even to tkl
7:22 was a banger haha but good review as always. The only thing I hate about razer is their bulky software. I wish there made their software portable to just set up the peripherals on the onboard memory. This will truly open so much opportunity for razor.
I'm always glad to see more wireless keyboards. I wish razer would make one of these with a touchpad for my HTPC setup.
the sound that came out from this video is very accurate
Is this a level up from the Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 Low Profile? I love low profile keyboards...
Dope video! What's the desk mat you're rocking at 2:38? Siiiiiick
the party joke drove the review home with flying colors! and it was really funny to... maybe you should do more of those, the tech jokes that take the piss out of brands and ideas just for fun. That aside, I've been split between the 2 keyboards but made my decision thanks to this video. great review as always
Honestly in 2022 you can build an entry level custom that's really good for way under $250 and wireless boards like the Anne pro 2 still exist, so unless you really like razer it's a pretty hard sell imo
thanks for your review, as a first time viewer i loved the segment about the keycaps.
Personally im really doubting i sold my g915 because the keycaps had visible wear on them after a few months of use (shine and fading key legends) but next to that i loved it and i would love
a better low profile wireless gaming keyboard.
But the caps being ABS and the doubt about how much of razer their talk is real vs marketing is making me really doubt buying this.
The shade on Corsair is savage haha.
The full size G915 is my favorite keyboard, but I sold it because I hate the G keys. It's good to see the G915 getting some competition.
I have several customs, but really do enjoy my huntsman tkl for gaming. It’s well built and super quiet for gaming without bothering roommates.
Great review. I'm glad that Razer went with the minimalist style with this keyboard. With this keyboard I feel that it can be easily used as Work and gaming.
Thanks! I’m patiently awaiting that TKL version
As a little emo kid getting his first gaming PC from his dad back in 2004, I was super excited to get the Blackwidow and Mamba from Razer as my first gaming peripherals. As a business-emo adult, I still end up with Razer peripherals, because they just win in the specs department almost every time.
I still remember the day I bought A 915 TKL, and returned it the very same day. The keycaps were super wobbly, I couldn't stand it, I just hope Razer's are not as bad.
I liked the original idea, i had like a few of those super flat Logitech “laptop” keyboards back around ‘09 right before mechanical became more mainstream, so a combination great. BUT I hateeeed the insane price, the lack of customizability, ultimately went with a 65%. (Or two/tree/four)
I still have a bunch of these flat low travel key logitechs, when we closed our office in 2010 I scooped all the the leftover boxes, I found the boxes when moving last year, tried marketplace but nobody wants to buy these in 2022. Kinda sad when you put 2 lithium AA in these they last for months...
I would go with a wireless keyboard but I modded my Huntsman V1 to be pretty silent compared to stock to a point where I don't want to replace it. All the switches and stabilizers on my Huntmans V1 has been lubed with PTFE dry lube and Krytox 205, added 2mm eva foam to the base, and did a medical tape mod for the modifier stabilizer. I also don't like the battery life with the current gen of wireless keyboards, I want a wireless keyboard with at least 100 hours of battery life using a 2.4Ghz dongle and not bluetooth.
Great review as always. When will the custom Wooting 60HE video drop?
Prob 1, maybe 2 more vids in front of it. Waiting on a special plate from China.
"how much do clothes cost in the Matrix".. i get it.
This thing is gonna replace my Streak65 LP. It's a REALLY solid board but I miss TKL pretty bad. Thanks for the video.
The Corsair comment lol 😂 you’re not wrong though!
Would love a TKL version of this at work. High price makes it rather a tough sell to the boss though. Drop it $100 and they'd have something.
Nice to see the g915 finally have some competition.
Does this require Razer synapse to be running to store all the RGB settings and functions still? Synapse is so bloated and a resource hog. I ended up disabling it entirely (i also disabled my RGB so it wasnt a big loss).
Probably does require the Synapse software. We have never seen that change as all 'gaming keyboards' require that, as other mechanicals that allow storing macros were always the ZMK or QMK.
The Keyboard has Onboard Memory so you set a particular configuration and keep it that way without Synapse on all the time.
You're damn right it's targeting logitech, I replaced my G915 TKL with this. Touch-feel wise the G915 TKL felt terribly cheap, I had the brown tactile switch version and the keys didnt feel good to the touch, at all. And then there is the redundant upper most row on the keyboard that shouldnt have been given a place on the keyboard because it basically makes the keyboard longer vertical wise for no good reason. The razer keyboard feels great, I have the red switch version, I'd recommend it to anyone. The only drawback is that some of the RGB effects can't be saved to the on-board memory, which isn't too big of a deal but it is nonetheless a big one considering the amount of money I spent on this. There aren't even that many RGB effects either, they really have to improve on their keyboard lighting features.
You ready? LET’S GOOOO!
Razer unfortunately has lost alot of support from the family community i believe due to their quality control over time with alot of their products sadly.. glad to see they’re still trying new things though!
corsair is the kid in the corner with LED fingertip gloves
That party analogy was top-tier and did not go overlooked.
Poor Corsair lol
if you prefer the logi it can be picked up for £140ish on amazon for tkl or full size vs 215 for the razer. i would never go razer again after the tartrus pro but that was ofcourse a niche product, though it looks like they may have learned and have put memory in their products. so you can uninstall synapse as that was what was causing the hangover on thier Analog Optical Keys (amazing bloatware)
5:53 GYAT
Logitech was ahead of their time with the G915. The TKL version is still on of the best keyboards of the market.
Correction: The G915 uses the Kailh choc v1, not the V2. Thanks for the video.
Ah thanks - good looking out 👌🏼
Finally a wireless low profile keyboard!! Now it's Corsair turn!
Switches appear to be the same optical low-pro ones that Keychron has been using since the K3
Oh, I like this. I do care a lot because I loved the G915 tkl but really never liked the switches, and I'm a low profile fanboy. Currently using ROG Falchion NX (Linears) and Razer Blackwidow Mini V3.
Recommended at 5:54 - What have you been up to BadSeed with that thumbnail in the bottom right?
Still waiting for the review of that mysterious white large gaming mouse
I used the original deathstalker chroma for probably 6 years straight pretty cool to see an updated line but I'm gonna stick with my keychron q3 heh heh
Are the switches on this board hotswappable? I know that Razer doesn't advertise it to be, but a Reddit poster claims that they are. The poster also claims to have swapped out the stock switches.
However, no review of this board that I have seen or read has stated that the switches are hotswappable.
Nice review but one question remains unanswered😊 It's not even answer on the Razer website. Can it be used with Android and/or iPhone/Apple TV?
So this has choc-style switches with MX stems instead of the two clips like the G915, which definitely makes keycaps more stable and less rattly.
Now imagine if Razer had bothered to lube the stabs from the factory.... Would have blown out the G915 in any straight up hands-on comparison. But I guess that's too much to ask lmao.
Great review as always man but the g915 can be easily had for at least 100 less in the UK. Might be worth a look for more budget conscious, low profile keyboard fans like myself. Although it's getting a little long in the tooth these days. Thanks
I think that this keyboard kinda takes away the mechanical feel with the foam in the switches because, this is a "low profile mechanical keyboard" so it should feel and sound mechanical in my opinion. Great review :D
this kind of thing makes me wish that razer would pull a keychron and get into customs
We need a wireless Razor Huntsman Mini tbh
Stay up.
Thank you! I was 2 clicks away from purchasing a G915 2 minutes ago.
Wooting killed them both on my book. Ofc Logitech and Razer will sell lot more in numbers though.
Yeah this is strictly for people who want lo-pro and wireless. You know I’m maining the Wooting
Things like this make me wish that the custom keyboard scene had more options for low profile form factors. I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet given how much better low profile keebs are for your wrists.
I wish this came out before the G915, noticeably better but that price tag is....blegh.
Loved that Corsair joke LOL
I love my g915 tkl and luckily it being older it gets discounted pretty heavily on a regular basis. This sounds great, though so if my 915 eats shit somehow I'll def eye this one.
"Show oil": I thought it isn't oil, it's polish. Because ABS is soft, our fingers literally "polish" the keys we touch, flattening the texture and smooth it out, making it shine.
Back on topic, my G913 TKL served me well but the left Ctrl had a habit of sticking, had to thin down one of its stabilizer legs because that was catching on a edge. The polish on the keys also started to bother me a lot. On top of that the G913 started to develop delays for no apparent reason, even when fully charged. It had become just an expensive piece of unreliable toy for me. Now I'm using the Logitech MX Mechanical Mini as the low polling rate is more than enough for light gaming like Diablo Immortal and Stacklands.
I wonder if this Razer product is why the G913 TKL has been selling at a constant 30-40% off for months now in my country. When I noticed it earlier this year I thought that they're finally going to release a new version...
I doubt if I'd every want to try the Razer one, though. While the low profile style looks beautiful, the shorter travel on the switches is something I'm only just barely able to bear. Just doing an "asdf" on my good old Filco makes me want to dump all these low profile garbage away. But the wireless, the long battery life, and the aesthetics...
Now the question is: you lubed the stabs which improved the sound a lot. I wonder: what if the switches are lubed with Krytox? Only the outside of the switch (red part)?
These prices make me grimace. I did a Redragon K618 Horus, with hot swappable switches for $70. It's easy to mod the thing, and it feels and sounds better to me than any of these $150+ offerings from the big companies. Follows the same form factor, also wireless, looks shockingly nice for a crap brand. I've fit some third party PBT XDA profile keys on it as well.
EDIT: I still wish any of these companies just sold this form factor, just wired, to reduce that cost. Why do low profile mechs HAVE to be wireless with these guys?
This reminds me a lot of the Tecware Phantom L, but that is wired and TKL only.
Also these keycaps are fucking decent.
This was great, I got a g915 tkl and it rattled like heck, was like shacking a maraca most of the time, wonder if this is a low profile thing
I still dont know hy razer wont do TKL keyboards with clicky keys, but does do 60% and full size ones.
I would easily drop $200 for a lightspeed/hyperspeed, south socket, pcb mount stab, logitech/razer pcb and case combo with no switches or caps.
They just keep missing the mark and it's so disappointing to see.
5:53 ayo 🤨
Just buy a Hexgears Venture for $160 MRSP. Same OEM, wireless, and cheaper.
the deathstalker actually doesn't sound too bad honestly, kind of short sounding and rattly but could be fixed up and modded. i could live with that stock for sure. banger once again brian
OHHHHHHH Poor Corsair.....it's ok buddy
I mean I guess wireless is good since I have a tablet i never use i guess i could use it with a wireless keyboard or something. :/ i want the clickies I'm scared of silent red linears.
@ndary symbols light up is huuuuuuge for me im in a super dark room and i have to turn the lights on our like use my damn phone to see some of the less used symbols on my logi board. The switches on this thing are straight amazing to. the light actuation force wit h crrazy low actuation is wonderful. Plus i never use a wrist wrest so low profile is my jam
I owned the G915 I have never been more underwhelmed by a keyboard before in my life. If I were to sum it up in one word, it would be 'meh'.
Same. And that’s coming from someone who loved their old UltraX for many years.
I was so excited after seeing the review, until I realized the TLK version isn't out yet. RAZER YOU HAD ONE JOB.
Update - possible to order it from the website now
PBT keycaps would’ve made this the perfect low profile board.
Honestly all these oem keyboards feel like garbage to me after building my own keybord, the 915 gave me terrible finger fatigue
I think I'm gonna grab the tkl one at the end of the year.
If this was $160 I would buy it just for productivity. $219 is still hard to justify.
Nice review! How well does this keyboard work with macOS devices? Any issues or differences with the function keys?
wow that beard is super clean. Are you using an 8k cam.
Thanks! And nah, I shoot talking head with the a7IV - 4k30 w Sigma 24mm prime
Mr. Badseed what is that grey/black mousepad at 2:48?
I think Razer was in the right for making this, I've talked to many non-keyboard enthusiast and many seem to like the G915.
Do Razer's low-profile linear switches feel spongey/squishy like the the optical linear switches in the huntsman?
Gonna wait to see how the TKL is - but I just got a Keychron Q3 which I'm *in love* with.
I love Keychron too but no 2.4 wireless.
@@BrawndoQC I don't need the wireless on my keyboard, I want the quiet, deep thock experience. Can't stand tinny keyboards.
Keychron is definitely great as a cheaper alternative.
@@katzicael The deep thock like you're shaking a bag of pool balls? I hate that. My Keychron K3E3 with optical tactile is very quiet. But I want wireless, we are in 2022 no wires on my desk. It's all about feel and typing speed and efficiency, not sound. Keeb enthusiasts are weird. I can do 120 wpm on a crap $15 low profile membrane from Amazon if I wanted to.
Was my first thought that is exactly the G915 just like with the Razer Basilisk mouse . Even so i dont minde Razer always refines these thing to make it better , its is a cheap way doing things from thier side like "copy my homework but make some changes" thing even so Razer makes it better and with thier software it will be even better its Logitech fault that they dont improve the hardware/software . I would even say they should just team up and go all out instead of copy-paste things would be epic .
Would love to see this in white!!
this whole time didnt realize thats what a g915 sounded like lol.. makes me feel better about my customs when thats what a $200 prebuilt sounds like lol
F-keys are too close.
Right side Win key is missing.
I got the 915 and I prefer it over the razor. Really anything over razor products.