Rex001X Blank I agree. She'll be a master of many force skills, including lightsaber combat, that will leave Vader stunned. The inquisitors will come in for the team victory. It will sell a ton of comics. 20 years from now we will all be fighting over whether Jocasta Nu could have defeated Vader at his prime instead of Vader as a shiny. 30 years from now we will get a Jocasta Nu movie.
I'm more confused on how they made their sith crystals. Seeing how much pain and agony Vader went through, I'm pretty sure they are incapable themselves
Feles dm I think he was being sarcastic........but they really didn't just appear out of nowhere, It all but tells us we're to assume, or conclude, that Palpatine had been putting them together behind the scenes for some time now, probably right after the purge was started. The ones he found that were already darkened, he chose to spare and lure them to join him.
Yoda In Rebels they should have made it to wear a group of Temple Guards survived in secret like we all thought happens in Rebels only to be disappointed greatly.
meloncholy&macabre I was thinking that a small portion like, say 50-100 guards after seeing that their was no chance for them to repel the attack would take a good sized group of younglings and sneak out.
I loved the inclusion of the Inquisitors and finding out Darth Vader himself will be training them. I completely agree with wanting Mace Windu to make a return!
are we just ignoring the fact that vader built the suit himself? shouldn't that mean something differently for how it was compared to legends? does the suit make him suffer through pain? or is that no longer a thing and the only thing that motivates him is the loss of padme and his dark deeds?
Lonewolf312 I know right! I guess it means he is purposefully torturing himself. Which makes sense I guess. However what I dislike is why would he keep the tactical flaws instead of just the painful flaws? Did he gain more force awareness by crippling his physical abilities and/or did the frustration help stoke his rage?
D J I don't think the suit tortures him like that, it seems like the beeping and flashing lights keep him from sleeping well (which is a torture in of itself). Plus he's extremely depressed over the loss of his wife and children. His torment seems to be a more mental one than physical, which is arguably worse.
I'm glad someone else brought this up. Vader having a sub par suit never made sense to me for this very reason. Vader is not only great with robotics, but he also pretty much has access to all of the greatest technology and parts in the galaxy. The fact that he was "slow" and "weakened" because of his cybernetics in a galaxy where cybernetics have been shown to be on par, if not better than biological limbs, was always just downright silly. I think this new Canon is gonna show us a Vader that's far more capable than the handicapped Vader we saw in Legends. We know Vader's accident had slowed him down, but it shouldn't be to the point where he should be thanking his lucky stars that none of the Jedi Masters from the past were still around to kick his ass because his "robotic knees are aching". Give me a break lol. At the end of the day, Vader's lack of speed in the OT is the result of the same issue that made Obi-Wan fight like an old man: It was made in the 1970's. If the OT was made today, we'd be lucky if vader wasn't doing somersaults and flying around with rocket boosters on his butt cheeks.
One of the bigger revelations is that Darth Vader was not tortured by the emperor through his suit of painful and inefficient armor but he tortured himself with this suit.
The Emperor encouraged Vader to modify the suit. If it was designed to make Vader suffer, or to limit his capabilities, then the Emperor would have forbidden this.Vader has more than enough misery without his suit being an additional source. Yes. Darth Vader is a cyborg. More machine than man. He has a machine's vulnerability to a power surge (i.e. force lightning). But, he's immune to poisons and biological weapons. You can't drown him or suffocate him. His armor can withstand lightsaber hits, he has superhuman strength, and arms and legs can be replaced. And, there is enough of him "still alive" to enable him to use The Force. He has built-in electronic assets to augment his vision and hearing, and he sounds like James Earl Jones. I think George Lucas misspoke when he threw out the "80 percent of the Emperor" figure. Vader's place in Star Wars was still evolving back then (1999?). We the fans object! Vader IS the Dark Side. In ROTJ, minus one hand and limping on an injured leg, he absorbs Palpatine's best shots, picks him up, and hurls him down a reactor shaft. Let's cut out the sand jokes and enjoy our new Rogue One-style Vader.
I appreciate your honesty in regards to keeping the essence of the channel pure. Most would and some do just sell out the content for the likes and subs they can aquire rather than be true to the existing community members.
This is a pretty drastic break with the old Expanded Universe, where Palpatine was largely nonchalant with regards to surviving Jedi. If anything he liked the idea that they'd spend the rest of their lives in hiding, constantly looking over their shoulders. Their prolonged humiliation a testimony to their Order's defeat at the hands of Sidious and Vader.
I love the character of Darth Vader. Is my most loved character of almost all sagas that i like so i'm delighted to support your channel even in so on content that isn't relative explicitly about this guy but anyway fullythanks to you to make those great audiodrama. I enjoyed so much with it.
This issue is not as exciting to bring to life as the last but it is my duty and my pleasure. Honest, kind and driven all in one sentence. That's why I'm subscribed to this channel.
So the EU/Legends theory that vader was never able to have his suit reconstructed because taking it all off would lead to hos deagh, and that his suit was purposely built poorly is officially null and void after this comic. Canon now shows that not only was vader absolutely able to leave his entire sit and survive, he also had a suit built to his exact preference. I disagree, this comic was very interesting
Darth Vader: "Jocasta Nu. I am here to kill you." Jocasta Nu: "You do not appear in our records. So you don't exist." Darth Vader: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!" Darth Vader disappears.
They should of used Luminara, had an amazing battle between her and Vader with Vader coming out on top and then showing how she was incarcerated by the empire and her body being used to lure surviving Jedi to the prison like in rebels. A little more context on that would be awesome and what better way to do it!
Sorry but just leave Mace Windu dead. All he is for me is a shinning example of everything that was wrong with the Jedi order before it collapsed. I never understood why so many people went crazy for him.
In 3:29 we can see Vader raising his arms beyond his shoulders, something that we no he couldn't do. So what's that all about ? I mean, is it because of the fact that THIS suit was made by Vader ? If so, why didn't he keep it, or simply made it better like he always wanted ??
Thanks for the video, Star Wars Theory. While I can somewhat see your point of view, I disagree threat Mace Windu is the Jedi that should be brought back to fight Darth Vader. By keeping Mace Windu dead, it shows how far Anakin was willing to go to save Padme and embrace the Dark Side. Having Mace Windu survive would cheapen his death. Also, after examining the circumstances around Mace Windu's death, I cannot see a way for him to plausibly survive and still be in a fighting condition. Mace Windu had his hand cut off, received the absolute full force of Darth Sidious' force lightning, and was propelled out of a building at quite a high speed. The sheer force of wherever he landed alone should be enough to kill him. Furthermore, I know you will probably think, "Well trained force users can survive falls from high places." That's true. However, the force users who are jumping from massive heights aren't injured, in good health, did so of their own accord, and with the proper mindset. Mace Windu wouldn't have any of these with the way he was killed. I know you are probably thinking, "Characters like Darth Maul and Darth Vader went through incidents that should have killed, so why can't Mace Windu do the same as well?" I will answer this with a quote from Sheev Palpatine, "The Dark Side is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural." The only reason Darth Maul and Darth Vader survived the circumstances that should have killed them, because they heavily embraced the Dark Side to extreme levels. Even then, they still needed additional help. Darth Maul became a rabid animal for years that was in no condition to fight a trained force user, and needed Savage Opress to find him and brought back to Mother Talzin so she could restore his mind and body with her magicks. Darth Vader needed Darth Sidious to find him so he could be brought back for the surgery to save his life and put him in that life preserving suit. Who would help Mace Windu? The Jedi were shortly declared to be traitors to the Republic, and the public is very much against the Jedi. No one is going to help Mace. His body was likely taken to be disposed of once it was found. Even if by some absolute miracle that Mace did survive. He would be in no condition to fight, and Sidious would immediately order for Mace to be killed. I know you want to see Darth Vader fight a powerful Jedi, but Mace Windu isn't really an option when one thinks about it. A better choice would be Quinlan Vos. However, I'm still interested in that they chose Jocasta Nu as an opponent. She is definitely one of the most surprising choices of all to face Vader. I suspect that this will be more of an intellectual challenge for him. Also, he has been ordered by Sidious to bring her in alive. That's quite a twist to what normally happens in a situation like this when Vader is normally ordered to just kill any remaining Jedi.
Thanks a lot for adapting these comics into videos. For people like myself who are vision impaired and are unable to read them, it is nice to know what takes place in them.
I don't know what to make of these Vader line comics as they present cool stories but it's just so different as to how I imagine Vader's Legacy. The new canon shows that Vader is more comfortable with his suit as he models it to his liking so it no longer serves as a source of pain fueling his anger and power like it did in legends which makes sense but I don't know, it makes him seem less menacing to me. Secondly, I would have preferred if the inquisitors came about a year or 2 after the Jedi purge but it makes sense the way it is in this new canon as well. And HOW THE HELL DID JOCASTA NU OF ALL PEOPLE SURVIVE THE JEDI PURGE! they should have left her dead by Anikan's hand though maybe she should have put up a bit more of a fight but she should not have survived the purge. Also, Vader's helmet style is really inconsistent in this series at times looking great and at other times making me want to punch a hole through the comic or the computer I see it on. So yeah I'm pretty torn in regards to what I think of this story. On a side note has anyone seen Kyle Kuzma man that kid is the steal of the draft!
I really hate how Disney is re writing Star Wars history. It often feels like they don't have any respect for the universe that existed before their acquisition of it. They should be telling new stories and filling in the gaps not previously filled, not erasing the old ones as if they were nothing.
Great video! Thanks for making it for us. I too would like Vader to face a serious threat and challenge, however I don't think they should bring mace back. I think there's already enough bring-backs in Star Wars, darth maul of course, which really should be the last, there doesn't need to be any more. Mace windu is from the same era even (as maul I mean) and of course ahsoka could return as well, which I'd be ok with, but there shouldn't be any more in my opinion
It has been tough but I have not watched a single teaser or full trailer for Episode VIII have actually managed to avoid reading anything about it as well. Really enjoy your channel helps me keep up with the Star Wars comics.
I wonder if Barriss Offee is one of the Inquistors, I really......don’t like the twisted that she became the bomber villain of the Jedi Temple, but if she turn into a Inquisitor will then make much more sense, perhaps even will fight with Ashoka again, that would be awesome.
You read my mind. I was just saying that same thing. Barriss returns as one of the unaccounted for Inquisitors, we see 6 out of 8 pictured in this issue of the Vader comics. Maybe Barris will fight Ahsoka? That would be so awesome.
hey man glad you acknowledged the librarian was killed by anakin in the game. thanks for sharing that, i was confused when i saw her at the end then remembered with a sad pain that all i have ever known in star wars is now "legends" anyways, thanks for mentioning that little bit of info there, i tip my hat to you for digging up info on all that stuff, i was half expecting it not to be mentioned, anyways keep up the awesome videos and cant wait for the next Darth Vader Comic! p.s i dont really wanna see Mace Windu return, i kinda feel like everyone that died they are just bringing back to life *cough* Darth Maul *cough* I would probably want to see Darth Vader fight Cin Drahliing (pretty sure i misspelled his name) he was the Jedi lightsaber combat teacher from the jedi temple... i mean i know anakin killed him too in the jedi purge, but he would probably me more suitable an opponent to conviently escape then the librarian
I think it wouldn't make sense for mace to return, as he isn't in the original trilogy it's pretty likely that Vader would kill him. But Windu defeated Sidious and because of Vaders reduced powers after his loss to Obi Wan he wasn't longer able to be as powerful as Sidious, so if not in a 2 on 1 battle, it would be very unlikely that Vader defeats Windu.
Abc Cba In raw power in the force Vader is only a bit less powerful then Sidious. When Vader learned about Padmé's death and started crushing the room he slammed Sidious in a wall and it took Sidious' full power to keep Vader from killing him. Sidious even came up with an excuse how it was Vader's fault or something to calm him down a bit, so Sidious could stop Vader from crushing him. Vader still had the potential to surpass Sidious if he actually taught him about the Sith. I'm guessing Vader had minimal training and collected Sith Holocrons to learn more. But the fact is Vader vs Sidious would definitely mean Vader losses. But if let's say Padmé was killed by Sidious infront of Vader. Berserker Vader would win.
Wolf-936 And if he got that new suit that wasn't weak to force lightning, as well as let him raise his arms over his head. The fact that he's killed so many Jedi with that weakness is just absolutely amazing.
Abc Cba Vaders powers aren't reduced in this series, they never were. He was just so depressed and uncommitted to the dark side that he never reached his full potential on either side. He couldn't come to terms with Anakin or Vader so he could progress passed sidious. Windu would probably beat him now because he is still a wild and angry sith.
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Deleted scenes are canon on a case by case basis. For a particularly famous example, the conversation between Luke and Biggs is canon. In this case, the deleted scene during which Shaak Ti is stabbed by Anakin is canon, confirmed to be canon by the canon reference book Galactic Atlas iirc. Either way some reference book describes Shaak Ti as having died by Anakin's hand during the Temple Massacre. But yeah deleted scenes are sometimes canon sometimes not
Yeah, they wouldn't pit Mace up against Vader so early in the series. Maybe by like issue 25. If Darth Maul survived his split and fall, you know good and damn well that Windu did.
Here's a fun fact, my mother works in aged care in Melbourne, Australia, and she actually cared for the woman who played Jocasta in the years before she passed away. But she never mentioned she was in the films until a couple of years before she passed, and apparently it was just a simple, "Oh yes, I was in Star Wars, I was a librarian." Only found out recently when re-watching Episode II with the family.
3:17 the inquisitor made the same mistake twice? He did his spinning lightsaber thing, but didn't move it. Allowing his opponent to destroy the saver from the middle. He did this with Vader AND Kaynen, which caused his death
I actually liked this issue , the fight with the grand inquisitor was awesome how Vader was just toying with his ass just shows how powerful he truly is while not even used to his suit yet. And it shows how cunning Palpatine is and how he's always got something going on behind the scenes like with the inquisitorius......And Vader always from the beginning not fully trusting him. Like when he asked if HE would not be at his side if he had somehow let himself be defeated, It just gives that much more meaning to his final redemption in the end and makes it make that much more sense overall. I thought this issue tied things together greatly. But most of all even though it was a fairly rushed fight, it still still sick to see Vader toying with him like I said, And then unleash his power at the end and just dominate the head guardian of the Jedi temple like he was a little padawan
Thanks for the video and the honesty about the comic. Having Vader fight someone super powerful doesn't seem interesting to me since we know he will end up winning or come out a draw in order to be alive for episode 6. Id rather hear more back story/sith lore
I always thought that the Vader alone will be hunting down the jedi cornering them then finishing them off with an awesome lightsaber fight, but then that didn't happen.
To be Fair he may only appeared in that one comic but master Infla was pretty cool. His personality was flushed out decently and His lightsaber looked really cool.
you have to remember, Jocasta might not be the strongest in combat, but she was the librarian. she had access to all the Jedi knowledge. She used to sit on the council and even created a few holocrons herself (see the episode "Lightsaber Lost" from Star Wars The Clone Wars animated series, which is considered cannon.) so in my opinion, she is one of the strongest Jedi in the fact that she could rebuild the order from memory of what she learned from the holocrons, and she also has to be a powerful tactician. She could study all light saber forms, battle logs, etc. this should give her some tactical advantage. My 2 cents on the issue.
I actually like this version of Vader, in Legends he can’t take his suit off at all but in the new Disney canon he can take his suit off anytime he wishes.
Oh, I am SOOOO much happier that Jocasta Nu is the one who's alive. Ahsoka clearly indicates that Jocasta is skilled; Jocasta is a Jedi Master, beyond a Knight. She was the librarian of the JEDI ARCHIVES, not just any random librarian. Her knowledge of the Force is already set up to be vast and deep to a degree that makes her truly terrifying to fight against in any serious way.
I always found it ironic that Palpatine permitted the training of multiple "Jedi Killers" when his own apprentices which were also called Jedi Killers also ended up dead, save one.
Would you consider doing a video of what you think of the Mace Windu comic, or Captain Phasma comic? Would be delighted to hear your thoughts. Would also love seeing your thoughts on Season 4 of Rebels.
"Not this old granny" Let me remind you, Palpatine was an old grandpa, so was Yoda.
Rex001X Blank librarian isnt a force powerhouse like them
We don't know how powerful or weak Jocasta Nu is. But Ahsoka in The Clone Wars implied that she's quite skilled.
Yeah I want to see her take on both Vader and Sidious at the same time and win.
Coltin Yancey Jocasta Nu is a Jedi Master and former High Council member. She's no powerhouse but she'll definitely be no pushover.
Rex001X Blank I agree. She'll be a master of many force skills, including lightsaber combat, that will leave Vader stunned. The inquisitors will come in for the team victory. It will sell a ton of comics. 20 years from now we will all be fighting over whether Jocasta Nu could have defeated Vader at his prime instead of Vader as a shiny. 30 years from now we will get a Jocasta Nu movie.
Its great how we see how inquistors came and not appear out of no where
Elite Trooper 51 and then I joined their ranks years later...and then another set of years later I became a sith lord.
Not really, they still basically came out of nowhere in this comic.
I'm more confused on how they made their sith crystals.
Seeing how much pain and agony Vader went through, I'm pretty sure they are incapable themselves
JP Sidous doled them out they're inquistors not sith they don't have the right to make their crystal bleed
Feles dm I think he was being sarcastic........but they really didn't just appear out of nowhere, It all but tells us we're to assume, or conclude, that Palpatine had been putting them together behind the scenes for some time now, probably right after the purge was started. The ones he found that were already darkened, he chose to spare and lure them to join him.
I think the new canon is getting better and better! Loving these Vader comics.
Yoda Eh, not really.
Yoda In Rebels they should have made it to wear a group of Temple Guards survived in secret like we all thought happens in Rebels only to be disappointed greatly.
Sir, Knight The Devout. That's fucking stupid though. Why would those Temple guards betray the order for no reason.
Yoda speak in the wrong order you do.
meloncholy&macabre I was thinking that a small portion like, say 50-100 guards after seeing that their was no chance for them to repel the attack would take a good sized group of younglings and sneak out.
Amazing intro. Last time on star wars Theory like authentic like Master Chef.
I loved the inclusion of the Inquisitors and finding out Darth Vader himself will be training them. I completely agree with wanting Mace Windu to make a return!
are we just ignoring the fact that vader built the suit himself? shouldn't that mean something differently for how it was compared to legends? does the suit make him suffer through pain? or is that no longer a thing and the only thing that motivates him is the loss of padme and his dark deeds?
Lonewolf312 I know right! I guess it means he is purposefully torturing himself. Which makes sense I guess. However what I dislike is why would he keep the tactical flaws instead of just the painful flaws? Did he gain more force awareness by crippling his physical abilities and/or did the frustration help stoke his rage?
D J I don't think the suit tortures him like that, it seems like the beeping and flashing lights keep him from sleeping well (which is a torture in of itself). Plus he's extremely depressed over the loss of his wife and children. His torment seems to be a more mental one than physical, which is arguably worse.
I'm glad someone else brought this up. Vader having a sub par suit never made sense to me for this very reason. Vader is not only great with robotics, but he also pretty much has access to all of the greatest technology and parts in the galaxy. The fact that he was "slow" and "weakened" because of his cybernetics in a galaxy where cybernetics have been shown to be on par, if not better than biological limbs, was always just downright silly. I think this new Canon is gonna show us a Vader that's far more capable than the handicapped Vader we saw in Legends. We know Vader's accident had slowed him down, but it shouldn't be to the point where he should be thanking his lucky stars that none of the Jedi Masters from the past were still around to kick his ass because his "robotic knees are aching". Give me a break lol.
At the end of the day, Vader's lack of speed in the OT is the result of the same issue that made Obi-Wan fight like an old man: It was made in the 1970's. If the OT was made today, we'd be lucky if vader wasn't doing somersaults and flying around with rocket boosters on his butt cheeks.
in legends he was based upon his pain and suffering while in canon right now he is based on hate and anger to himself.
Efecan YSL Canon sucks and keeps making new plot holes.
These comics just make me appreciate Darth Vader even more.
Easy, Mace!
How come im the first like and comment lol
One of the bigger revelations is that Darth Vader was not tortured by the emperor through his suit of painful and inefficient armor but he tortured himself with this suit.
Even if he modified the suit, it seemed like he didn't do that much to it, other than fix the problems he had when he faced the Jedi.
The Emperor encouraged Vader to modify the suit. If it was designed to make Vader suffer, or to limit his capabilities, then the Emperor would have forbidden this.Vader has more than enough misery without his suit being an additional source. Yes. Darth Vader is a cyborg. More machine than man. He has a machine's vulnerability to a power surge (i.e. force lightning). But, he's immune to poisons and biological weapons. You can't drown him or suffocate him. His armor can withstand lightsaber hits, he has superhuman strength, and arms and legs can be replaced. And, there is enough of him "still alive" to enable him to use The Force. He has built-in electronic assets to augment his vision and hearing, and he sounds like James Earl Jones. I think George Lucas misspoke when he threw out the "80 percent of the Emperor" figure. Vader's place in Star Wars was still evolving back then (1999?). We the fans object! Vader IS the Dark Side. In ROTJ, minus one hand and limping on an injured leg, he absorbs Palpatine's best shots, picks him up, and hurls him down a reactor shaft. Let's cut out the sand jokes and enjoy our new Rogue One-style Vader.
Thank you for bringing these comics to life! Much appreciated and enjoyed!
The return of Mace Windu
I appreciate your honesty in regards to keeping the essence of the channel pure. Most would and some do just sell out the content for the likes and subs they can aquire rather than be true to the existing community members.
Great man you are getting reaaaallly good at this! Congratulations. Great writing, Storytelling, paneling work and voiceover!
This is a pretty drastic break with the old Expanded Universe, where Palpatine was largely nonchalant with regards to surviving Jedi. If anything he liked the idea that they'd spend the rest of their lives in hiding, constantly looking over their shoulders. Their prolonged humiliation a testimony to their Order's defeat at the hands of Sidious and Vader.
Hey guys
Palpatine Now we shall have peace...
High Ground Here
Palpatine i would like to ask What the Fuck is wrong with your laugh
Darth Sidious hello my master!
Did Palpatine just casually say 'hey guys' like he's some friendly dude??
I love the character of Darth Vader. Is my most loved character of almost all sagas that i like so i'm delighted to support your channel even in so on content that isn't relative explicitly about this guy but anyway fullythanks to you to make those great audiodrama. I enjoyed so much with it.
What happened in Cato Neimoidia with Obi-Wan and Anakin, when Anakin apparently saved Obi-Wan but it "doesn't count"?
gbraca202 He made a video about that already. 😊
Oh I wasnt aware of that. I appreciate it!
gbraca202 You can watch the video he did of it or read the Labyrinth of Evil which takes place before Revenge of the Sith.
gbraca202 covered in clone wars
This issue is not as exciting to bring to life as the last but it is my duty and my pleasure.
Honest, kind and driven all in one sentence. That's why I'm subscribed to this channel.
So the EU/Legends theory that vader was never able to have his suit reconstructed because taking it all off would lead to hos deagh, and that his suit was purposely built poorly is officially null and void after this comic. Canon now shows that not only was vader absolutely able to leave his entire sit and survive, he also had a suit built to his exact preference. I disagree, this comic was very interesting
Darth Vader: "Jocasta Nu. I am here to kill you."
Jocasta Nu: "You do not appear in our records. So you don't exist."
Darth Vader: "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"
Darth Vader disappears.
They should of used Luminara, had an amazing battle between her and Vader with Vader coming out on top and then showing how she was incarcerated by the empire and her body being used to lure surviving Jedi to the prison like in rebels. A little more context on that would be awesome and what better way to do it!
Sorry but just leave Mace Windu dead. All he is for me is a shinning example of everything that was wrong with the Jedi order before it collapsed. I never understood why so many people went crazy for him.
@Ricardo Milos and Samuel L Jackson
samuel l jackson is the only reason needed to go crazy for him
black guy punch entire droid army boi
i think bringing him back just to have Vader face him one last time would be a great scene to watch.
the jerk was chill
In 3:29 we can see Vader raising his arms beyond his shoulders, something that we no he couldn't do. So what's that all about ?
I mean, is it because of the fact that THIS suit was made by Vader ? If so, why didn't he keep it, or simply made it better like he always wanted ??
Thanks for the video, Star Wars Theory. While I can somewhat see your point of view, I disagree threat Mace Windu is the Jedi that should be brought back to fight Darth Vader. By keeping Mace Windu dead, it shows how far Anakin was willing to go to save Padme and embrace the Dark Side. Having Mace Windu survive would cheapen his death.
Also, after examining the circumstances around Mace Windu's death, I cannot see a way for him to plausibly survive and still be in a fighting condition. Mace Windu had his hand cut off, received the absolute full force of Darth Sidious' force lightning, and was propelled out of a building at quite a high speed. The sheer force of wherever he landed alone should be enough to kill him. Furthermore, I know you will probably think, "Well trained force users can survive falls from high places." That's true. However, the force users who are jumping from massive heights aren't injured, in good health, did so of their own accord, and with the proper mindset. Mace Windu wouldn't have any of these with the way he was killed.
I know you are probably thinking, "Characters like Darth Maul and Darth Vader went through incidents that should have killed, so why can't Mace Windu do the same as well?" I will answer this with a quote from Sheev Palpatine, "The Dark Side is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural." The only reason Darth Maul and Darth Vader survived the circumstances that should have killed them, because they heavily embraced the Dark Side to extreme levels.
Even then, they still needed additional help. Darth Maul became a rabid animal for years that was in no condition to fight a trained force user, and needed Savage Opress to find him and brought back to Mother Talzin so she could restore his mind and body with her magicks. Darth Vader needed Darth Sidious to find him so he could be brought back for the surgery to save his life and put him in that life preserving suit. Who would help Mace Windu? The Jedi were shortly declared to be traitors to the Republic, and the public is very much against the Jedi. No one is going to help Mace. His body was likely taken to be disposed of once it was found. Even if by some absolute miracle that Mace did survive. He would be in no condition to fight, and Sidious would immediately order for Mace to be killed.
I know you want to see Darth Vader fight a powerful Jedi, but Mace Windu isn't really an option when one thinks about it. A better choice would be Quinlan Vos. However, I'm still interested in that they chose Jocasta Nu as an opponent. She is definitely one of the most surprising choices of all to face Vader. I suspect that this will be more of an intellectual challenge for him. Also, he has been ordered by Sidious to bring her in alive. That's quite a twist to what normally happens in a situation like this when Vader is normally ordered to just kill any remaining Jedi.
Thanks a lot for adapting these comics into videos. For people like myself who are vision impaired and are unable to read them, it is nice to know what takes place in them.
I don't know what to make of these Vader line comics as they present cool stories but it's just so different as to how I imagine Vader's Legacy. The new canon shows that Vader is more comfortable with his suit as he models it to his liking so it no longer serves as a source of pain fueling his anger and power like it did in legends which makes sense but I don't know, it makes him seem less menacing to me. Secondly, I would have preferred if the inquisitors came about a year or 2 after the Jedi purge but it makes sense the way it is in this new canon as well. And HOW THE HELL DID JOCASTA NU OF ALL PEOPLE SURVIVE THE JEDI PURGE! they should have left her dead by Anikan's hand though maybe she should have put up a bit more of a fight but she should not have survived the purge. Also, Vader's helmet style is really inconsistent in this series at times looking great and at other times making me want to punch a hole through the comic or the computer I see it on. So yeah I'm pretty torn in regards to what I think of this story. On a side note has anyone seen Kyle Kuzma man that kid is the steal of the draft!
Wow!. You had my attention right off the bat!. Great work!.
I really hate how Disney is re writing Star Wars history. It often feels like they don't have any respect for the universe that existed before their acquisition of it. They should be telling new stories and filling in the gaps not previously filled, not erasing the old ones as if they were nothing.
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This video was very well narrated, thanks. And being back mace!
Great video! Thanks for making it for us. I too would like Vader to face a serious threat and challenge, however I don't think they should bring mace back. I think there's already enough bring-backs in Star Wars, darth maul of course, which really should be the last, there doesn't need to be any more. Mace windu is from the same era even (as maul I mean) and of course ahsoka could return as well, which I'd be ok with, but there shouldn't be any more in my opinion
It has been tough but I have not watched a single teaser or full trailer for Episode VIII have actually managed to avoid reading anything about it as well. Really enjoy your channel helps me keep up with the Star Wars comics.
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I wonder if Barriss Offee is one of the Inquistors, I really......don’t like the twisted that she became the bomber villain of the Jedi Temple, but if she turn into a Inquisitor will then make much more sense, perhaps even will fight with Ashoka again, that would be awesome.
You read my mind. I was just saying that same thing.
Barriss returns as one of the unaccounted for Inquisitors, we see 6 out of 8 pictured in this issue of the Vader comics. Maybe Barris will fight Ahsoka?
That would be so awesome.
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If you hit a Windu with a Mace, the force will break the Windu.
hey man glad you acknowledged the librarian was killed by anakin in the game. thanks for sharing that, i was confused when i saw her at the end then remembered with a sad pain that all i have ever known in star wars is now "legends" anyways, thanks for mentioning that little bit of info there, i tip my hat to you for digging up info on all that stuff, i was half expecting it not to be mentioned, anyways keep up the awesome videos and cant wait for the next Darth Vader Comic! p.s i dont really wanna see Mace Windu return, i kinda feel like everyone that died they are just bringing back to life *cough* Darth Maul *cough* I would probably want to see Darth Vader fight Cin Drahliing (pretty sure i misspelled his name) he was the Jedi lightsaber combat teacher from the jedi temple... i mean i know anakin killed him too in the jedi purge, but he would probably me more suitable an opponent to conviently escape then the librarian
I think it wouldn't make sense for mace to return, as he isn't in the original trilogy it's pretty likely that Vader would kill him. But Windu defeated Sidious and because of Vaders reduced powers after his loss to Obi Wan he wasn't longer able to be as powerful as Sidious, so if not in a 2 on 1 battle, it would be very unlikely that Vader defeats Windu.
Abc Cba In raw power in the force Vader is only a bit less powerful then Sidious. When Vader learned about Padmé's death and started crushing the room he slammed Sidious in a wall and it took Sidious' full power to keep Vader from killing him. Sidious even came up with an excuse how it was Vader's fault or something to calm him down a bit, so Sidious could stop Vader from crushing him. Vader still had the potential to surpass Sidious if he actually taught him about the Sith.
I'm guessing Vader had minimal training and collected Sith Holocrons to learn more.
But the fact is Vader vs Sidious would definitely mean Vader losses.
But if let's say Padmé was killed by Sidious infront of Vader.
Berserker Vader would win.
Wolf-936 And if he got that new suit that wasn't weak to force lightning, as well as let him raise his arms over his head. The fact that he's killed so many Jedi with that weakness is just absolutely amazing.
AbsolutelyNoLogic Exactly.
Wolf-936 Dude Vader's OP... BUT I LOVE HIM SO MUCH!!!
Abc Cba Vaders powers aren't reduced in this series, they never were. He was just so depressed and uncommitted to the dark side that he never reached his full potential on either side. He couldn't come to terms with Anakin or Vader so he could progress passed sidious.
Windu would probably beat him now because he is still a wild and angry sith.
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Can i just say i love your narrations
Would rather have had Shaak Ti tho
Masterchudi She's wasted potential. She would have been a great advisory against Vader.
Unfortunately she's canonically dead already. The deleted scene where Anakin stabs her while she's meditating is canon
Deleted scenes as i understand aren't canon
Masterchudi it is tho
Deleted scenes are canon on a case by case basis. For a particularly famous example, the conversation between Luke and Biggs is canon. In this case, the deleted scene during which Shaak Ti is stabbed by Anakin is canon, confirmed to be canon by the canon reference book Galactic Atlas iirc. Either way some reference book describes Shaak Ti as having died by Anakin's hand during the Temple Massacre. But yeah deleted scenes are sometimes canon sometimes not
Amazing video!!!! Thank you very much for doing such a great job!
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Devran Hasan Oh you mean that op bitch?
As always great video. Thrilling. I too wish to see Mace Windu maybe they are saving the best for last!!
Yeah, they wouldn't pit Mace up against Vader so early in the series. Maybe by like issue 25. If Darth Maul survived his split and fall, you know good and damn well that Windu did.
+King Ramesez Definitely! It would also be cool to see Vader face off against Quinlan Vos before Mace Windu makes an appearance. 💯✔
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Windu returning and being killed by Vador would be truly epic and would tie in amazingly with their history with each other. I'd love to see it happen
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Over what exactly?
love disney i do with comics vader. not like it i do with movies.
I find your lack of faith, disturbing.
You calling her "this old granny" made me laugh out loud for over 30 seconds
I wonder if the Grand Inquisitor ever got to see the Jedi archives before his death.
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What makes her dangerous is her knowledge of the archives not her skill.
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I'm really enjoying these Vader comics.
Love how he doesn't force push Tarkin, cause he likes the old dude, even if Tarkin doesn't quite know he's the lovable little scamp Ani.
Loved it!!! Amazing video!!
I actually love the cover to this comic with the Grand Inquisitor standing over a broken Vader helmet
“Not this old granny” had me laughing way to much haha
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Here's a fun fact, my mother works in aged care in Melbourne, Australia, and she actually cared for the woman who played Jocasta in the years before she passed away. But she never mentioned she was in the films until a couple of years before she passed, and apparently it was just a simple, "Oh yes, I was in Star Wars, I was a librarian." Only found out recently when re-watching Episode II with the family.
3:17 the inquisitor made the same mistake twice? He did his spinning lightsaber thing, but didn't move it. Allowing his opponent to destroy the saver from the middle. He did this with Vader AND Kaynen, which caused his death
I'm glad they didn't forget the Inquisitors after his early death
dawg if mace returned and knew that vader was anakin that would be a very emotional fight i would love it so much
That face at 1:57 had me laughing
As much as I'd love it, Windu ain't never comin back
I actually liked this issue , the fight with the grand inquisitor was awesome how Vader was just toying with his ass just shows how powerful he truly is while not even used to his suit yet. And it shows how cunning Palpatine is and how he's always got something going on behind the scenes like with the inquisitorius......And Vader always from the beginning not fully trusting him. Like when he asked if HE would not be at his side if he had somehow let himself be defeated, It just gives that much more meaning to his final redemption in the end and makes it make that much more sense overall. I thought this issue tied things together greatly. But most of all even though it was a fairly rushed fight, it still still sick to see Vader toying with him like I said, And then unleash his power at the end and just dominate the head guardian of the Jedi temple like he was a little padawan
Nice Video :)
"Not this old granny" 😂😂😂 I'm dying.
0:24 Why is Grand Moff Tarkin using his best Darth Vader impression?
I love this channel and I want them to bring back master windu so that we can see what would happen
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Ah the _Twilight of the Apprentice_ flashbacks from seeing the Inquisitorous.
Love your vids. Fan fiction idea. What if palpatine formed the empire when the jedi order still existed???
Jedi Temple looking pretty good for just having been attack by a legion of clones only a few weeks ago.
Anakin/Vader in the Jedi Temple is the biggest home field advantage of all time
Wow so that's how the Inquisitor idea came to be.
Love the music! A “Night on Bald Mountain” theme in there
Thanks for the video and the honesty about the comic. Having Vader fight someone super powerful doesn't seem interesting to me since we know he will end up winning or come out a draw in order to be alive for episode 6. Id rather hear more back story/sith lore
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Can’t believe I missed your last live stream
I always thought that the Vader alone will be hunting down the jedi cornering them then finishing them off with an awesome lightsaber fight, but then that didn't happen.
Damn. The grand Inquisitor fell for the same trick twice.
I love you when you tall the story (Vader story)
To be Fair he may only appeared in that one comic but master Infla was pretty cool. His personality was flushed out decently and His lightsaber looked really cool.
you have to remember, Jocasta might not be the strongest in combat, but she was the librarian. she had access to all the Jedi knowledge. She used to sit on the council and even created a few holocrons herself (see the episode "Lightsaber Lost" from Star Wars The Clone Wars animated series, which is considered cannon.) so in my opinion, she is one of the strongest Jedi in the fact that she could rebuild the order from memory of what she learned from the holocrons, and she also has to be a powerful tactician. She could study all light saber forms, battle logs, etc. this should give her some tactical advantage. My 2 cents on the issue.
I can't be the only one who thought this issue's cover was misleading. I was hoping for so much more. :(
I actually like this version of Vader, in Legends he can’t take his suit off at all but in the new Disney canon he can take his suit off anytime he wishes.
I just noticed it looks like Vader has his “normal lightsaber” when he comes into contact with the librarian
Oh, I am SOOOO much happier that Jocasta Nu is the one who's alive. Ahsoka clearly indicates that Jocasta is skilled; Jocasta is a Jedi Master, beyond a Knight. She was the librarian of the JEDI ARCHIVES, not just any random librarian. Her knowledge of the Force is already set up to be vast and deep to a degree that makes her truly terrifying to fight against in any serious way.
I always found it ironic that Palpatine permitted the training of multiple "Jedi Killers" when his own apprentices which were also called Jedi Killers also ended up dead, save one.
Palpatine’s face at 1:56 is goddamn terrifying
Would you consider doing a video of what you think of the Mace Windu comic, or Captain Phasma comic? Would be delighted to hear your thoughts.
Would also love seeing your thoughts on Season 4 of Rebels.
One thing I'd like to see answered is how did Vaders saber blade especially obi wans get so skinny in Rebels.
Are you going to do a part two of if master yoda was in the Jedi temple ate the time of order 66?