Downpipe Tune 🤭 BMW F44 M235i xDrive Gran Coupé // Nürburgring
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- Опубликовано: 3 июл 2024
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Disclaimer: the actions performed in this video are executed by professionals or individuals that consider themselves professional on a closed circuit within the local regulations.
00:00 Intro/Specs
01:45 Lap
10:50 Thoughts 
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Misha I appreciate you reviewing my car and absolutely sending it especially towards the end. You did your thing brother and I will be forever grateful.
And to all my BMW elitist...I know it's not even before I bought it but it's mine now and I'll keep seeing what this 4 cylinder can do for years to come. Cheers to you mfs too🍻 I'll see you on the Autobahn.
Was cool to see ur F44 M235i, never hear or see much on these motors,
You're the bomb, baby! You're on your way. I have faith that you will get much more out of her. She just seems be held back for some reason.
Don't worry about the negative comments, it's just people (including me I'll confess) who are saying it's not a real bmw against bmw and not you.
I'm pretty sure 99% of us would jump at the opportunity to have a nicely tuned sporty all wheel drive sedan in real life 😂😂
Nice car man....And u NAILED exactly what I was going to say....first half was pretty damm boring....second half was exhilarating!!! I thought it was jus me. you know what had to be a contributing factor.....the tires! See what cold pressure was that day and see what hot pressure was at end of lap. Also. There could potentially be something at play with the cooling system and the cars thermostats feedback mechanisms, as u likely have auxiliary radiators in the bottom left And right front bumpers. I have heard a few people mention certain things happen differently when car gets to certain temp in sport mode and or sport+ so on and so forth....last thing... HORRIFIC gauge cluster....idk how u do it?! It's a deal breaker for me though! The cluster...alone!!! LOL have a good one man
@@Namburiadityasairam2605the real bmw idea is wrong because I will say at 2.0l competition with other brands this chassis is amazing ( for fwd based car) , bmw put that kind of cars in the market they didn’t destroy any models with that 2series ( the 2series rwd exists etc ) , it is a different bmw that is cool and nice car to have it everyday
At least the owner is really happy with his car, that's what this is all about❤
yeah... but i would sell this car asap...
@@bilboriches7216 because you drive a Corsa 1.0 2007?
@@akon3152 No. Cos this bmw is weak and cheap. I mean im not trashing it. Its just bad. Feels cheap, looks cheap and has no performance.
@@bilboriches7216 it's relatively, it's not a fully maxed M5 F10 i know, but looks a nice daily
@@akon3152 Who wants a mamonth old shitty f10? The hell? No thnx.
Passenger's face says it all!! Looks like a blast to sit in your own car and experience a wizard control your car around one of the most amazing tracks in the world!!
Why is everyone so toxic in the comments man, grow up.
I love how everyone who rides passenger with you always has a smile on there face😂 driving these cars are fun for you but your making great memories for these guys & amazing content for us🙏
That's the magic of cars and fast driving ✨
Despite the hate comments, i think its a cool car !
It is a cool car, I`m on my 2nd one. I think it would take a lot more mods to deliver an additional 100 bhp.I think 330 to 340 would be nearer the mark.However the bhp figure is only part of the equation. I also have a Merc SLK 350 which is rated at 300 bhp,and can honestly say the 235i is quicker with more torque.
Lots of “it’s not a real BMW”, bet 99% haven’t driven an M135i or M235 GC (f44).
I’ll take Mishas feedback over the BMW trolls any day!!
Bunch of sheep - probably never driven a BMW either.
Definately not 400bhp. Looking at the JB4 tune they give a "max 100bhp extra" on the JB4(tuningbox) module. So that is where the 400 comes from.
If you look a the "real" tuners.. they come to 340/350 bhp with a downpipe, OPF delete midpipe, bigger intercooler, and a stage 2+ tune.
And this is missing the intercooler as far as I can hear in the beginning of the video. For 400 horses you need a bigger turbo. This is maybe at around 330.
yup
Ya I would be surprised if it was over 320. It got left in the opening straight away by a BMW hatchback that was probably 350 tops. These kids and their numbers. I tell ya. Intake might be 15 horsepower. a tune might be 30-40 horsepower. downpipe maybe 20 horsepower. again, hes luck to have 320 real horsepower. looks pretty standard.
@@rediscoveryrecords1348 Well the standard 306bhp are often around 315/320 when put on a dyno. A mod here and there and you might gain 10 or so. And without the intercooler the inlet temperature on a B48 is high. That is why tuners like Mosselman and BMW/Mini Speed, that are offering a 350bhp package, only sell you that when you also take the intercooler.
I’m not an expert but I have a mk7.5 gti running 395 hp and this doesn’t accelerate nearly as quick. No hate, I like his car, I would just have to agree with others and guess low 300s
In fact I change my guess to high 200s
"No active entertainment source" on the dashboard, not true, the active entertainment source is behind the wheel :D
Haha, I had to joke about that too... Funny message seeing where the car is.
@@volvo09:D First think I seen on the video ahah.
0:01 "no active entertainment source"
I beg to differ BMW...
well thats a face of a happy man.
Which is the most important.
I like these cars, looks like a chill chap
9:55 I guess the orange car had a high temperature.
Or maybe he is just cooling off the brakes and engine before stopping
@@ricardogandur2318 i would absolutely do this at this point of the track
We seem to be getting a lot of Bmer experts making comments. Good lap Misha and the owner look like he loved it. As for the Bmer fans. If you can do better with your motor get down to the ring and prove it.
It's not that , brother its about everyone's opinion ✌️ if is good or bad os theirs, thank you for beeing so kind and understanding 😊 🙏
@@firstprototype I agree. You are a wise man!
I have an M235i GC and love it
Me too... off the lights 😊
Yep me too. I have had 11Mercs in last15 yrs, but I enjoy the driving in the 235 more,and some of my Mercs were more powerful. It`s all about the pleasure it gives all round, not just track performance.
@@beastieboy3926 I’ve been legal to drive for 7 years, 4 cars, an A200, C300, E220 and now this. Easily my favourite car so far
me to, got 235 tires pirelli p0 grip is awsome and indeed if you want to push it, shift manual at 5.5 max 6 000 rpm, i can even keep up with the new 240 m :)
I`m on my 2nd one after owning an Audi Q5 in between.Like the 235i very much.
Still a very nice car
Looks really balanced and performs good
Not bad for a 318i.
Where do u get 18i from tho? I get the 3....?
@@cheesecakemilkshake8043its a 4 cyl car
Yup, back in the days even state-of-the-art turbos only did half of that power. Better not talk about the 318i N46/N43, the best thing about those engines was that they had the same torque pretty much all over the rev range. 😉
it's the fwd platform tho. more like 118i coupe
its a m235i@@pfeen198
I put the front calipers and 360mm rotors from an F44 Msport on my F56 mini. Love the bmw ecosystem
Looks like a comfortable car
It is interesting to watch the km range sign, at Steilstrecke you used up 50 km of range already. 😮
Aww... He reminds me of the kid from Peter Pan with Robin Williams in the lead.
It gave me a smile in the hole face. Nice car and Nice run.
The new track surface looks enticing, and faster....
Jimmerz says it's snowing at the Nordschleife today.....
They're leading their race, btw, 2 laps ahead of P2....
Stay warm Mischa.....
BMW Powaa . Thanks Misha
220 Fahrenheit for a track run is really good. Cooling system did great.👍
Mooi.
Am i the only one who is bothered by the spider sitting on the rear window at 2:43, that just got blown away at 4:06 😭😭😭😭
So Long Spider 🥲👋🏼
It looked as though he was still hangen for a split second from his webbing. She's so light that she'll be fine.
o7
This was epic 👀👀👀
Good video
Smiles per gallon right there
Godlike
What a shame to put 1 series and 2 series to FWD based platforms
it is pretty close to MINI, right? I also find it as a dropback
their ti models usually faster with the fwd setup how i dont know even with less power usually.
Cheaper to build.
I guess BMW have watched all those youtube reviews complaining about leg space in the back of the old 1/2 series 😂
g42 is bmw, f22 is bmw, f44 is not, it's a mini
"what kind of mad mans creation is that?" LOL!!
I doubt it has 400hp
agreed, looks closer to stock power
Idk, 152mph on Kottenbom. a 300hp car likely wouldn't be eclipsing that number with traffic.
It’s 100-200 times we’re worse than stock type r lol
@@JK-tu1xx it passed than sti at 5:00 pretty hard. Unless the Subie was absolutely just cruising, that was a sign that it's def over 300. I feel like people are so used to 500+ cars that everything looks stock and slow to them
Sounds like 250bhp tops.
Just here for the flamers driving 13 year old 335i N54s that spend more time on a lift than on the ground.
220F is like 104C, surprisingly cool
That was after they had already slowed down at the end so it was likely higher, especially when they were going uphill, but still impressive.
The subject of incresed bhp can only be determined by dyno. 10 % increase would be more realistic. Sometimes medling with exhausts and maps can be counter productive. Some yrs ago a bike mag tested various pipework on a Ducati Diavel and found the Akropovic system,which was the most expensive actually produced less power than standard, but it did make a lot of noise.Sometimes it`s in the mind.
Nice one
anyone who thinks this car isn’t a “real bmw” we can set up a race with my m235 . I hold the record for the 1:4 mile on the m235 so let’s see if it’s a real bmw or not
I have the same car …. Can’t find too much on it Performance wise . What do you have done?
Do you ever adjust/check the tire pressure before these ride along laps?
Yes 👍🏻
The fuel consumption gauge says that the track it's long about 70 km 😁
No dash lights or oil temperature warnings mean there is still some room in terms of tuning, right?
not much room on that turbo tho and it aint 400hp as he thinks. maybe 320-350 max
Mit dem Serien-Fahrwerk muss man das Auto aber richtig in die Kurve rein drücken, sonst zu viel Untersteuern. Jetzt hast Du einen Vergleich zwischen Serien Fahrwerk und einem KW Clubsportfahrwerk auf dieser BMW Plattform. Bist ja mein roter 1er F40 M135i gefahren. Viele Grüße @max.veloce_94
What's with the creaking sounds? Is it from the panoramic sunroof?
Could be
Big chance. A repair program has been established for the creaking sunroof issue in the 2GC. I also own a 2GC, which has undergone the repair process, and it's now functioning much better. It's not perfect yet, but the improvement is significant compared to before.
''No active entertainment source'' = Ich vermute, dass der „Downpipe Tune“ nicht angeschlossen war. 😅
Please select on to a BMW with such a instrument cluster, the G-Meter instead of the entertainment source.
Would be a very interesting information.
I can't know how it feels, but it looks like it would be fun, and nice, and fun. maybe
Sorry Misha, today my like its for the owner!! he love it
Car looked incredibly balanced on the track. Still not sure on the 4 cylinder instead of the 6.
for the younger generation especially in England early to mid 20s 6 cylinders+ is a killer on car insurance i wanted the 2019 M140i it costs me anywhere from £4000 to £6000... everyone knows they sound better and are faster but if you want a quick 300HP good looking car with good features then the M135i or M235i are probably the best option it used to be the Golf R MK 7.5... S3s are quite good too and A45s but they are again very expensive cars and the insurance kinda fucks you over on them
220F is 104C, so not bad at all
BTW what is the issue with the doors? Is it because these are frameless? The closing sound is just awful :?
if you slam them too hard they do sound pretty bad. and it's because they're frameless, it usually happens on most cars. if you close them gently they sound very sturdy.
need to close them with care lol ive been in one they are very nice looking
Imported from the us?
I love this car, it's so pretty!❤
‘what kinda Mad Max creation?…’ 😂🫶👊💥
Não sei em que mundo essa galera dos comentários vive, que bm linda slc
Muito hate desnecessário, ainda acho que esse bmw mantém a essência da marca. Experiência de dirigir incrível, estou pensando em fazer remap no meu.
2 of 3 today's videos watched, away watch the 3rd 😎
A b48 with DP and JB4 is good for an additional 40-50hp max. Ain’t no way in hell he has 400hp. He would be much quicker than an m240 with that claim
Lots of hate for this car :( Still, I love my 220i F44 - in my opinion it looks a lot better in person than in videos and photos. If the stars align this year I might even manage a trip to the 'ring with it :)
Is it possile to make a 228i grand coupe as fast as a m235i grand coupe with some mods
Did he say the JB4 was giving near 400? It looked ok but I wouldn’t have put it at that sort of power. Iv’e tried to like the 2.0 M lites but they really did have big shoes to fill after that amazing M140 B58 engine.
But he’s wrong. 350-360 with DP removed is more realistic.
It pulls fairly consistently but nothing crazy fast. Almost giving diesel vibes
How are the sales of this generation going vs previous 240/235?
low :)
Actually, high - considering it’s getting replaced with the F74 in Q3/4 this year.
they are increasing as car insurance is becoming crazy on anything with 6 cylinders or more anyone whos in their early to mid 20s will be wanting S3s, Golf Rs and now the newer M135i and M235i
Golf 🤷🏼♂️ you can see at the beginning the 1BMW R6 pulling away
Misha, be careful if you're ever offered to drive an Audi with factory ceramic brakes. Don't rely on them. Audi messed up, they don't come with seals that can withstand the temperature those brakes should be able to work on an the car can suffer catastrophich brake fluid leak.
A B48e stage 2 motor will output around 360hp on 98 RON (downpipe and upgraded intercooler). Stage 2 E85 will get you up around 400hp.
For more power you need upgraded turbo. Best off the shelf turbo for B48e is the IPOS IM450.
It sounds like it's choking. Something is holding it back. She should be getting to redline much faster. She should be a screamer at 400HP.
It’s a shame all the engine sounds come through the speakers on these and new BMWs in general. Can’t beat the older bmw models. 👍
I absolutely cannot stand how BMW tries to mask the sound of the 4 cylinder with fake audio.
No way that’s 400bhp, the M140 smoked it. I have an M240i, and wife has the M135i, honestly feel that B58 has about 100 more bhp, and more torque everywhere. I like the M135 in the wet though, although it understeers when pushed which is not very BMW. RWD still much more fun and sounds epic.
Keep up the good work, love your channel Misha 💥 new teeth/ jaw looking superb too!
M140I was 490hp :)
In german we say: Ich kann keine "Freude Am Fahren" erkennen!
Great Car but just for enthusiasts c:
i have the same car m235i, bmw claims 306whp. i got it dynod at 324whp. i deleted th opf, muffler witch restricted allot of airflow so that would prob add atleast 15hp+ more, everybody in the comments whos haiting doesnt have any clue about the cars preformance nor engine, its not a b48 its a B48E, ive seen normal b48 hit 500. i know people hittin 450hp with downpipe on the m235i f44. 4,4 0-60mph stock.
talk to them bro im up here in the comments to explaing shit lmao mini had b48 also but this is b48E and in our m235i its forged an and revised im sure it can handle 600+ easy with cooling an mods transmission will handle it np because it has the zf trans im building mines rite now i have straight pipe but i still have downpipe and jb4 femto unlocking soon because i have a 21 then imma go catless ....when im done with it i wana try swap an rs3 motor in it 🤣🤣
Love from pakistan
Very good ❤
Just another walk in the park for Misha :)
Misha... Get the Passenger foot cam going!!!
Too bad it's not a B58 and that 140i blew past it.
That is not tuned surety!
Misha you didn't use your horsepower metor after the lap😔
Das Auto ist nicht schlecht!
Aber 6 Zylinder BMW ,ist halt was anderes. ✌
Yeah I have an aggressive jb4 tune on my 235, dyno tunes 337hp. And I have more bolt ons than this car.
Why does this car rev so low
B48 life
It must be painful to watch a F140 pull past out the gate. Idk what bmw were thinking going fwd and fwd biased when they sold so well just fwd and rwd biased. Oh, yes, money. Car manufacturers are just plain greedy now they must make these cars for about 10k and look what they charge for some of them!
Damn,that door slam sounds cheap ngl
its fine its just that he did it too hard as its frame less windows enit
How heavy it is in comparison to heaviest bmw 1 series mk1 ?
Nice BMW made for and in China 🇨🇳 = is very good at 75 kmh in the moose test 😊
🎉❤🙏✌️🇷🇴
Maybe learn some english before commenting…
Im not sure what the actual power is, but it looks so similart to my Golf 7 GTI stage, which is 300hp, so I would get this is actually stock? Golf R stage1 looks much faster then this and its only near 400hp
Not pushing 400, not even close. 350-360 MAX with DP/Software. The 4 bangers are not the engines you want if going for a tune and looking for 400HP. B58 Stage 1+ does it easily enough
looks so understeery
Idk seems sensitive on the steering and looks slow I seen him go ham with other cars lol
Watching a proper 6cyl, rwd 1 series pull away immediately tells you all you need about this generation of 1/2 series
So what do you drive?
@@alexlam24 I currently own an e92 M3. Not that that makes any difference to my comment about the "Mini" gen 1 and 2 series.
You’re right, it got too hot and the 235 passed it before they even hit Dottinger Hohe. Guess they are building them better now 🙃
@@tomritchie8092 depends on where you from and your age as in England you arent getting a 6 cylinder or more M or M light car in your early to mid 20s without the car insurance being £4000 to £6000 minimum average person can not afford that type of money
The issue is these new 4cyl "Mini" 1/2 series are just neutered compared to what came before then. They're not bad cars per se, but I don't understand the desire to purchase one at a higher cost vs the alternatives (bmw or otherwise).
Since these are FWD based i see no reason why someone would buy this over a Golf R.. At least a Golf is a handsome car
I agree 💯 Imo BMW have single handedly removed any reason to pick a BMW over any of the VW group's offerings for a small fun car .
this BMW is nice, if you want to be a normal guy get an R but I would much rather have this..
@@vladniculita4176 what makes this unique?
@@callumcurtis15nothing
@@vladniculita4176 It might drive good, but its FWD and it's really really not good looking. It just isn't a BMW in any way
bmw 2 series gran coupe. Is it big? Is it a coupe? It's neither!
2 series Gran coupe stand for Grand Coupe meaning its bigger than the 2 series coupe version. Why? Because it has 2 more doors than the coupe =Gran Coupe. Same with the 4 series gran coupe vs 4 series coupe and 8 series gran coupe, vs 8 series coupe. It’s not that hard bruh🤦🏽😂
family car?
Unspectacular, but fast 🤷♂
secaond
Second grade ?😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂@@BrzBoyz831
@@BrzBoyz831 hs
Not 400hp, 320hp max
Cap 🧢 see me on the autobahn 😂 In my actual humble opinion it's just below 400hp. Really don't know how to test it for cheap. It's 330 stock and I proved that as soon as I drove it off the lot. JB4 tune Map 2 on this lap + bms intake and 200 cell downpipe is probably pushing close to 400 but not over.
BMW says its claims its 306hp but when put on a dyno it makes 324hp. Stock!
Underwhelming is an understatement 😅😂
downpipe, a tune and intake is 400 horsepower? These kids I tell you. Just throwing around numbers, then gets passed like nothing on the straight away by a probably 330 horsepower BMW hatchback. lol. Come on bro.
It's never happened to me to this day on the autobahn🤣🤣 and you probably missed the part about the JB4 tune. 330Hp is the out of factory hp for this car.
That M140i that passed it comes stock 340hp but it wasn’t stock. That M140i that blew past it was tuned and had around 490 hp
nah, the max for this car at this moment prob 300-330hp crank.
We'll see 😈
14.5 sec 100-200😂 400 hp?
Man my A3 Quattro 320 hp does it in 11.5
Yeah not only is this underpowered, it's also heavy af.