Thanks Gigi for this interesting conversation between two well suited people. June is no victim but a willing volunteer. Two terribly vain/vapid individuals negotiating the terms of their next F session.
“You’re making me not want to be with you,” sounds like gaslighting to me. He’s calling her crazy. Sadly, June cared a lot for him and I hope she has found a guy who can care for her in a normal, healthy way.
June rode the short bus to school. She’s willing to stay with Charlie for the Louis Vuitton bags. What a sellout. She says he’s perfect except for the cheating and murdering. WTF. ?
Yes! But Wendell never responded with a yes or a no. She went round round round like Sue and said that if she did have it she prob did use it but she can’t remember. Vaguely just vaguely. Liar!
June spoke real words when compared to Katie. All Katie says is “like” “well like” and more “likes”. I have yet to hear Katie express a complete thought.
She was trying to talk to him about how she felt about his cheating. He treated her like garbage. Women stupidly fall in love with Mr. Wrong all time.Hopefully she finds a partner with actual character and treats women with respect next time.
My first husband was like this. I was expected to be with him when he wanted me, and never mind what I needed. And he always threatened to divorce me when we argued. I finally went to a friend's condo near Tampa for a weekend just to be by myself and do some introspection. I got home and we had an argument the next day. Another threat, and I sat down with him and outlined that I needed him to go to his mom's for a week or two while I found a place of my own. And that's what I did. Life's too short to spend it with someone constantly playing games with you.
Sadly, I don’t believe the women that he was with have any self-respect or self-worth. Hopefully they (Bree, June) are able to move on as best they can. At least June didn’t have a child with him. That’s a plus!
Charlie eats a ridiculous amount of lobster! 😂 June is realizing he is gaslighting her and I actually feel kind of bad for her. Charlie is a total A hole.
I am sure Charlie wishes he could just date himself...he has sooooo much self love....self love is a good thing but Charlie carries it to a new level !!!
Def v twisted, but he’s a narcissistic abuser, AND they have a kid together. Her feelings were likely confusing & complex. She’s also much younger than he is! Hopefully it’s much simpler for her now
@@MayaGTK I do not believe the child is with June. That was part of June’s frustration. I agree! I hope with a little bit of time and space, June realizes she dodged a HUGE bullet herself! Pun intended!
Typical narcissistic Charlie. June, have some self respect. He treated the jury just like this. Concocting a ridiculous story that he felt the jury would fall for because they’re stupid. Wrong again.
Gaslighting and deflection at its finest! Charlie is textbook NARCISSIST! I wish this behavior were taught in schools so that no one would tolerate it and understand drop it like it’s HOT and move on to someone with the empathy chip!!
Agreed!! My daughter’s high school started teaching some of this stuff last year in their weekly “advisory / health class” & it’s pretty great. Not overly deep, but pretty accurate imo & gives them a foundation for recognizing 🚩 & unhealthy relationships 💕
Ugg Charlie reminds me of a recent convo with an ex BF where he wanted me to return to be a part of his life again, to get married, but a leopard doesn’t change his spots. From past experience, I knew his idea of a faithful, exclusive, marriage type relationship doesn’t exclude him from dating other women, and so I replied competing with other women while being your “wife” doesn’t appeal to me. He candidly replied, “Well you would be 1st before the others”. 😂
That was just icky. I feel like most of us have had that kind of conversation at some point in our lives when we loved the other person more than they loved us, and we just kept trying. It's hard to be sensible and walk away.
Lot's of ppl pointing out he's gaslighting and deflecting. And he absolutely is. But what stood out to me prominently as far as narcissistic traits are, is he's clearly using "crazy making". Making her question her own perceptions and instincts. The other is intermittent reinforcement. Dramatic swings of idealization and devaluation.
Yeah I'm with a broke loyal guy BUT I'm tired of not going anywhere, never going out to dinner, no flowers or gifts, just sitting around be LOYAL-so much fun!
💜just reading the comments - surprised at how few mention the distinct possibility that Charlie is, at minimum, a Narcissistic Abuser, & June was under his thumb. It’s almost impossible to fathom if you haven’t been there. Many intelligent, otherwise self-respecting ppl can become their victims, & it’s hard to recognize the patterns of abuse til later (by which time it’s v v hard - and often terrifying & isolating - to leave). They’re vindictive & will say & do anything to “win” - things non-abusers would never even think of. I hope June has support & is healing. Charlie sucks. 💜
I agreed with you that June was under his spell. In the conversation she didn’t respond to the disrespectful things he was saying to her. If I were being called stupid, or ignored how his actions affected me, I would’ve called him out on his name calling and his selfishness and ended the phone conversation.
He was talking to katie magbanua every day around this time, and he's asking, "Are you coming over ?" If he was a woman, he would be called many foul disgusting names?
such a narc, but she handles it so well. I don't know if it's intentional or not but she just completely ignores what he says and has no reaction and keeps asking her own questions lol. 😭
Yeah June, quit whining. all Charlie wants is the basic human right to have a smart, good looking girlfriend who will drop everything, come over and watch football with him. what time you coming over?
Oooooh he’s a jerk of a boyfriend! And super weird all of this whats app messaging especially with your family, why not just text? Wendy is GUILTY too!
What woman is she talking about that he continues to be friends with? It's been a long time since I've updated myself on this case I'll have to get back into it when Donna's trial starts. Thank you Gigi for all your hard work.
I kept thinking it was the one he got pregnancy and had a kid with? Cos that’s the one she says on the stand he slept with while with her and then finds out she’s pregnant
Sounds like something that happened when he was away. Supposedly he had a very young girlfriend overseas who he would keep in touch with between trips to see her.
But why is wendy texting in whatsup? ...my sister being one of them. I think at this time Charlie is disturbed. That's probably why he was rude to June.
I believe Harvey is definitely gonna show up for this hearing. Him and Donna are tight and that is the love of his life. Harvey doesn’t seem to care what anybody thinks and he’ll sit right behind her and cry for Donna in the courthouse. It’s actually disgusting that they only arrested Donna because she was going to flea. If not, who knows when they would’ve arrested her with all that evidence it’s disgusting.
This woman exudes something that makes me feel like she thrives on this negativity and being brow beat, have none of you been around narcissist that thrive on negative action from others, it’s a game that causes others to get caught up in themselves and their imaginary issues.
"You're acting a little F'ing crazy" - wow using the F word so early in a convo and calling her names "You're making me not want to be with you again" - Jesus bro relax with the threats and manipulation Then keeps pressuring her to come over Man if this guy wasn't rich he'd have a hard time (besides now)
I'm no fan of Charlie. But this call exemplifies why he was good with women. He wasn't afraid to tell June to behave herself when she was acting out. If he did step out, then according to the call it was because she said it was fine. He did not look to her for approval, it was the other way around. Women look for leaders in men. And that's why she still cares so much about him.
Classic narcissist trying to always make it the other person’s fault!
Oh hell no. He wouldn't be talking to me like that. 😡
Thanks Gigi for this interesting conversation between two well suited people. June is no victim but a willing volunteer.
Two terribly vain/vapid individuals negotiating the terms of their next F session.
June, when you're dating for money, you'll earn every penny.
Right!
Yep!
Brilliant 👍
Fancy calling your girlfriend "dude". How freaking romantic Charlie!
It's so rude! Unreal
I lost count of the times that he called her stupid, or referred to something she thought/said/did as stupid. Real classy, Charlie, real classy.
“You’re making me not want to be with you,” sounds like gaslighting to me. He’s calling her crazy. Sadly, June cared a lot for him and I hope she has found a guy who can care for her in a normal, healthy way.
3:10 Oh, oh!! There we go! Charlie was texting Wendi on WhatsApp!! Bingo!
Lol yeah Wendi claimed she didn’t have WhatsApp exactly! Caught the big liar.
@@lululiga333Wendy actually claims she "couldn't remember" if she had Whatsapp. .😂
@@astrialindah2773 Shes a slick liar. But heres hoping they get her eventually.
TEXTBOOK GASLIGHTING
Wow... I didn't think I could like him less...
And to think many many women go for these rich dirt bags....
Me too, but these calls squash ANY feelings of pity, that I occasionally feel for him.
Oh my! He’s so mean to her.
@@DamienMarie83 she allowed him to be mean to her.
His level of arrogance and rudeness is consistant with all of his family members.
June rode the short bus to school. She’s willing to stay with Charlie for the Louis Vuitton bags. What a sellout. She says he’s perfect except for the cheating and murdering. WTF. ?
🫣
@@verticegirferd5069 lol ridiculous.
Oh. This is why the DA is asking about Wendi’s What App.
Yup
My eyebrows almost detached from my head when I saw that part hahaha
Yep… non stop WhatsApp with Wendi 😮😮😮
Yes! But Wendell never responded with a yes or a no. She went round round round like Sue and said that if she did have it she prob did use it but she can’t remember. Vaguely just vaguely. Liar!
Who would want to put up with him and his mom coming to visit so much!
Makes me love thinking of Charlie being in prison!
Omg, I guess he is gods gift to woman - why wouldn’t she come over to watch him work out and watch sports. Walk away June !!! He is such an A…. 🇨🇦🇨🇦
My thought exactly. Apparently he doesn't go to June's place. I wonder what he did to get her number.
Why am I listening to this? 😂
Oh wow can you imagine trying to stay focused or even awake during a conversation with June?
June spoke real words when compared to Katie. All Katie says is “like” “well like” and more “likes”. I have yet to hear Katie express a complete thought.
She was trying to talk to him about how she felt about his cheating. He treated her like garbage. Women stupidly fall in love with Mr. Wrong all time.Hopefully she finds a partner with actual character and treats women with respect next time.
@@gaganorthofthe49th62 💯 @staronqueen 💯
My first husband was like this. I was expected to be with him when he wanted me, and never mind what I needed. And he always threatened to divorce me when we argued. I finally went to a friend's condo near Tampa for a weekend just to be by myself and do some introspection. I got home and we had an argument the next day. Another threat, and I sat down with him and outlined that I needed him to go to his mom's for a week or two while I found a place of my own. And that's what I did. Life's too short to spend it with someone constantly playing games with you.
Gaslighting at its best. Why did these women like him? So glad he is put away.
Q) Why do they like him
A) 💰💰💰
Sadly, I don’t believe the women that he was with have any self-respect or self-worth. Hopefully they (Bree, June) are able to move on as best they can. At least June didn’t have a child with him. That’s a plus!
If he hadn’t been a wealthy dentist I doubt they would.
God knows it’s not for his scintillating conversation, that’s for sure.
How many times does he have to refer to her as stupid?
Charlie eats a ridiculous amount of lobster! 😂
June is realizing he is gaslighting her and I actually feel kind of bad for her. Charlie is a total
A hole.
*ate 🦞& I totally agree
I am sure Charlie wishes he could just date himself...he has sooooo much self love....self love is a good thing but Charlie carries it to a new level !!!
Well he can now for the rest of his life 😂😂😂
Well she won’t have no worries with him any more!
Why would anyone last more than 5 minutes with this charmer?
Money money money
$$$$$$$$$……I couldn’t stick it out for money lol but I know many can and do
@@Neon-Moons
I couldn’t either!
😂Seriously! What was she thinking? Charlie certainly doesn’t hide what a self centered jerk he is.
Because he’s loaded and women want men with status and power
And yet, June testified that she wished she could still be with Charlie. ???
@@smith899 $$$$$$$$$$
Def v twisted, but he’s a narcissistic abuser, AND they have a kid together. Her feelings were likely confusing & complex. She’s also much younger than he is! Hopefully it’s much simpler for her now
@@MayaGTK I do not believe the child is with June. That was part of June’s frustration.
I agree! I hope with a little bit of time and space, June realizes she dodged a HUGE bullet herself! Pun intended!
@@smith899 ohhh you’re right (that’s Bree?) - I’m out of the loop! Thanks for the kind correction ☀️
well I guess he can still work out in prison.
no asian chicks, football, beer or lobster tho.
Typical narcissistic Charlie. June, have some self respect. He treated the jury just like this. Concocting a ridiculous story that he felt the jury would fall for because they’re stupid. Wrong again.
Deny, gas light, project, and deflect..... Classic😂😂 hopefully June has got some self-esteem since this time...
Gaslighting and deflection at its finest! Charlie is textbook NARCISSIST! I wish this behavior were taught in schools so that no one would tolerate it and understand drop it like it’s HOT and move on to someone with the empathy chip!!
Agreed!! My daughter’s high school started teaching some of this stuff last year in their weekly “advisory / health class” & it’s pretty great. Not overly deep, but pretty accurate imo & gives them a foundation for recognizing 🚩 & unhealthy relationships 💕
I wonder if the state are going to call her to testify against Donna?
Ugg Charlie reminds me of a recent convo with an ex BF where he wanted me to return to be a part of his life again, to get married, but a leopard doesn’t change his spots. From past experience, I knew his idea of a faithful, exclusive, marriage type relationship doesn’t exclude him from dating other women, and so I replied competing with other women while being your “wife” doesn’t appeal to me. He candidly replied, “Well you would be 1st before the others”. 😂
More assurance that people always end up with who they deserve. 🤣
aye yai yai i can smell my braincells simmering 😵💫
That was just icky. I feel like most of us have had that kind of conversation at some point in our lives when we loved the other person more than they loved us, and we just kept trying. It's hard to be sensible and walk away.
Lot's of ppl pointing out he's gaslighting and deflecting. And he absolutely is. But what stood out to me prominently as far as narcissistic traits are, is he's clearly using "crazy making". Making her question her own perceptions and instincts. The other is intermittent reinforcement. Dramatic swings of idealization and devaluation.
He's such a great guy...why can't i have a great guy like him?
She’s well rid of him!
On to the next rich jerk
Is she? Thank goodness. Hope she's healing & avoiding other extreme narcissists
I had a dismissive bf like charlie. Everything about him. Kept me around only bc it was better than being alone. Ugh
… was it ?
He just has to call the shots.............
Some women would rather share a high status guy than date a broke loyal guy
Sadly yes. Not this woman. I make my own way in the world.
Yeah I'm with a broke loyal guy BUT I'm tired of not going anywhere, never going out to dinner, no flowers or gifts, just sitting around be LOYAL-so much fun!
@@chrissyellem7397Some women love the things that men do for them.....
@@chrissyellem7397 you want all that? Work for it!!! 😂
I'd choose the loyal guy.
He's a creep, mean, mean-spirited and degrading to her. June, please listen to this and recording and realize you won.
💜just reading the comments - surprised at how few mention the distinct possibility that Charlie is, at minimum, a Narcissistic Abuser, & June was under his thumb. It’s almost impossible to fathom if you haven’t been there. Many intelligent, otherwise self-respecting ppl can become their victims, & it’s hard to recognize the patterns of abuse til later (by which time it’s v v hard - and often terrifying & isolating - to leave). They’re vindictive & will say & do anything to “win” - things non-abusers would never even think of. I hope June has support & is healing. Charlie sucks. 💜
I agreed with you that June was under his spell. In the conversation she didn’t respond to the disrespectful things he was saying to her. If I were being called stupid, or ignored how his actions affected me, I would’ve called him out on his name calling and his selfishness and ended the phone conversation.
The thing is, June was full on in the relationship for one thing only... That was to be treated like a queen by a rich dentist in Miami....js
He was talking to katie magbanua every day around this time, and he's asking, "Are you coming over ?" If he was a woman, he would be called many foul disgusting names?
💯
How sad to be invested in such a person.
Will June be testifying in the upcoming trial?
He is such a gaslighter!!
He got 5/5 creep level in every single sugar daddy website he joined in.
He was being controlled by his mother, so he had to control her. I hope that she's found happiness.
Gigi, are you going to livestream Donna's trial?
Woman - do whatever you want ..
A smart dude- knows better .
This dude doesn’t have a damn clue !
Arrogance just pours out of him, sooo clever he played with wrong people, Karma came to bite him!
He has been talking to Katie this whole time too
Believe me Katie was going to be a fixture in his life until the very end, he was deeply invested in that relationship.
I wonder how many lobsters lover boy has eaten since this call.
Watch basketball,work out , eat lobster. Can't do that in prison.
ughhh he is SO self centred! Poor June
People like this live for high drama, they deserved each other. Ain’t nobody got time for that.
such a narc, but she handles it so well. I don't know if it's intentional or not but she just completely ignores what he says and has no reaction and keeps asking her own questions lol. 😭
Yeah June, quit whining. all Charlie wants is the basic human right to have a smart, good looking girlfriend who will drop everything, come over and watch football with him.
what time you coming over?
Thank you for your relentless work Gigi!!!!! 🩷🩷🩷🩷🩷
I'll treat you right June. I'm here for you......
"I saw it" what exactly did she read *wow* please
Oooooh he’s a jerk of a boyfriend! And super weird all of this whats app messaging especially with your family, why not just text? Wendy is GUILTY too!
I sure hope June has gotten the therapy and help she needed to move past this a☆ole and have ego strength and love herself.
"Scott" who all day? Not the same Scott who got the Addelsons the Vietnam Villa ...?
What woman is she talking about that he continues to be friends with? It's been a long time since I've updated myself on this case I'll have to get back into it when Donna's trial starts. Thank you Gigi for all your hard work.
I have a strong feeling it’s Katie Magbanua!
@@GenevieveWinkler-hi6umthank you
I kept thinking it was the one he got pregnancy and had a kid with? Cos that’s the one she says on the stand he slept with while with her and then finds out she’s pregnant
@@Kaykayu98 Right, Bree, I could definitely see that too
Sounds like something that happened when he was away. Supposedly he had a very young girlfriend overseas who he would keep in touch with between trips to see her.
Who was he sleeping with?
I think Katie (his ex & convicted go-between in the murder conspiracy Charlie’s convicted of bankrolling)
@@CarmieGirl9902 ohhh yes u might be right
Charlie: youre acting a little crazy...
Everyone: acting crazy? Oh of course!!! A sane woman would have nothing to do with you !
Is it possible I’m on Charlie’s side on this one?!?! Lol. June IS being dumb. 😅
Charlie was never interested in a meaningful relationship with one woman
Selfish user
As usual, The Maestro only concerned about himself. Such a keeper-not!
Charlie is acting like a freaking needy girlfriend. That shit will drive a person insane.
This is a month after the bump.😅😅😅😅😅
The fact he can’t enjoy any of these things, gives me great joy. No more lobster for you.
But why is wendy texting in whatsup? ...my sister being one of them. I think at this time Charlie is disturbed. That's probably why he was rude to June.
I believe Harvey is definitely gonna show up for this hearing. Him and Donna are tight and that is the love of his life. Harvey doesn’t seem to care what anybody thinks and he’ll sit right behind her and cry for Donna in the courthouse. It’s actually disgusting that they only arrested Donna because she was going to flea. If not, who knows when they would’ve arrested her with all that evidence it’s disgusting.
Geeze get me a couple of Charlie’s 🙄
This woman exudes something that makes me feel like she thrives on this negativity and being brow beat, have none of you been around narcissist that thrive on negative action from others, it’s a game that causes others to get caught up in themselves and their imaginary issues.
June doesn't know how to be in a relationship. That said, she shouldn't have been in one with him...
Money money money
Feminism for the win
Is this the same scot who took the money?
Now Charlie is dating a 300 pound smelly dude 😂
High school.....39-40 year old man....at this point.
Kosher style Maine lobsters
Imagine if she was on the Jury...Jeeeez 😮
🍀
"You're acting a little F'ing crazy" - wow using the F word so early in a convo and calling her names
"You're making me not want to be with you again" - Jesus bro relax with the threats and manipulation
Then keeps pressuring her to come over
Man if this guy wasn't rich he'd have a hard time (besides now)
What a $&@&$😮
Even with his money, I don't get how he ever got a date.
June. I'm here if you want a decent guy.
She texted me 😅😅😅 he was on the phone to katie all the time during this period? She was a doormat, and she allowed him to walk all over her?
I'm no fan of Charlie. But this call exemplifies why he was good with women. He wasn't afraid to tell June to behave herself when she was acting out. If he did step out, then according to the call it was because she said it was fine. He did not look to her for approval, it was the other way around. Women look for leaders in men. And that's why she still cares so much about him.
Why is it ok for Charlie to date whoever but Robert and wendi have to pick Jewish partners. Why no J dates for charlie??
Was June on drugs ? She was brutally thick on the stand
I cannot believe this is a 40 year old man saying “stop, you’re making me feel like I want to be with other girls” 🥸