Better Call Saul Season 5 - Young Kim
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- A flashback in which Kim's mom is driving under the influence and Kim would rather walk. One of my personal favorite scenes due to how well Katie Beth Hall (young Kim) is able to portray Kim's usual mannerisms.
From Ep. 506 - Wexler V. Goodman - Развлечения
Not getting into a car with a driver who's been drinking? That's actually pretty smart and responsible for a kid
It's not too smart and responsible to drive the car sleppy and worked-out tired
I mean, I'd risk being in a car crash over possibly being kidnapped
@@GOOOOOOLden_boy Okay, but that's nowhere near equivalent to driving under the influence.
If you ever seen The walten files you’ll see what could’ve happened if Kim got into that car.
I think it was more a sign of disgust and disapproval of her mother's lack of responsibility and lifestyle over the fact that she's driving drunk
I just watched an interview with Rhea Seehorn, and she was asked about this scene. She said that it reminded her of the parking garage scene from the very first episode, and when Kim was cleaning up the knocked over garbage can, Rhea said that Kim was the type of person "who was probably raised by an addict, because she cleans up other people's messes, and she doesn't ever want to depend on anyone but herself". This is exactly why Kim is the way she is. She's a great lawyer because from a young age, the only way of coping with her trauma was to fix it herself, and not take shit from anybody.
Just like Jimmy as Gene decides to fix his problem himself during the last flashforward. Nice one, man.
@@Stef9094 Thanks.
She also cleaned up the broken bottle pieces in the parking lot in Season 5
I agree with you but at the same time she also take all shit from everyone and handled it right. That’s why she’s the best lawyer. Chuck, Howard, Mesa Verde etc but especially Jimmy (exclusively haha 😂 ).
Hmm
The mom sounds exactly like adult Kim. Amazing casting
I thought the exact same thing
I thought that Rhea Seehorn playing as Kim's mom too
Props to this young actress, she studied Rhea's character very well. She is completely believable as a child Kim.
Same with young Chuck
They were amazing with casting younger versions of characters, never just settled for a resemblance
ikr
@@volnartheunforgiving3952in this same episode young Kevin was pretty great too lmao
I'm shocked that they actually managed to find a girl who has the same mannerisms as Kim.
The actress playing her mother looks like Rhea Seehorn. Is she her sister?
they probably went over a lot of kim’s scenes with the actress to get her mannerisms down. she killed it too, so worth it
And probably the same voice imaginable for young Kim
I know they did so well with the actors in the flashbacks. I do think they directed her to have those same mannerisms, unless those mannerisms came from rhea seehorn?
Of course child actors supposed to resemble a younger version of someone else are chosen based on looks. But I think most often the older and the younger actor are spending some time together or the child actor is watching on set to get mannerisms right. Very good choice though here (Katie Beth Hall).
Fun fact : to make this scene more realistic they actually filmed Rhea Seehorn back in 1985 when she was 13. Absolute dedication to the role.
bravo vince
I thought they used the Time Machine?
Nailed it.
No. They didn't have enough time crystals for that. They could only get to '89 and improvised from there.
@@xZippy *pym particles
The girl who played young Kim really felt like her. Kind of like the teenage kid who played young Chuck in the cold open for a “lantern”where he and Jimmy are reading the book in the tent. I like all the thought put into it to make them really feel like the characters
I am a drunk. And this is why I’ll never have kids… I will NEVER be an alcoholic parent. Never.
Adults always think of themselves as smarter and more responsible than kids. And then they get a hissy fit when the same kid stands up for themselves
This hits hard as a kid who’s the last to get picked up from school
Me at primary school hahaha. I was supposed to leave at 12hs I think, and my mom just left her job by that time more or less, so I would wait her until 12:40 or even 13hs sometimes, in the worst cases kids of afternoon shift were already arriving hahaha
Can relate
Relatable.
Can relate
Right
I think that this helps illustrate why Kim finally decides to play things Jimmy’s way at the end of the season. All her life she’s been picking up other people’s messes: Jimmy, Mesa Verde and even her own mother! Maybe she had finally had enough and found through Jimmy she could cut loose a little and clean up after them. She could have her cake and eat it too. Now she thinks the same with getting back at Howard. But I think we all know it’s going to be her undoing.
Her story is a lot like Walt’s. After a lifetime of pressure built from having to constantly be responsible and follow the rules, they just needed that final big push to break bad.
It's more of the fact her mom is a con artist as well. The only time her mom bonded with her is when Kim stole some earrings and her mom ran a con to bail her out.
This is why the only she looks alive is when shes doing wrong and also why she bonded with Jim
@@ammash3000 I feel like Kim would despise Walt.
Ray D Tutto Well of course she would. Walt’s change was far more extreme, and his actions far more heinous. Kim hasn’t fallen anywhere near Heisenberg level and I doubt she will. But the nature of the change is similar. Dissatisfaction with walking the straight and narrow and getting a taste for living life on the edge. It’s just on a smaller scale… after all Kim’s fuel was the prospect of spending her entire career building banks and the spark was a car accident that gave her a glimpse of her own mortality. Walt’s fuel was a full blown mid life crisis, a dissatisfying marriage, and the regret of bailing out on a career that would have set him for life and written his legacy in stone. The spark? Cancer. He broke harder and fell harder. There’s no doubt Walt became a far worse person but the parallels shouldn’t be dismissed.
@@Ray_D_Tutto And she despised herself at the end.
The thing she does with the mouth here is so kim 1:39, the child did it great
And her hand 1:38
Well, the child had the two best directors to guide her.
Yea
Makes sense she’s had those habits all her life. Kids from neglectful families often learn to self-soothe with this kind of fidgeting.
Metarockerlml two best directors west of the Mississippi.
And there she is. Trying to fix Jimmy because she couldn't fix her mom.
Fucking rough because they hardly ever change without learning a hard lesson. Like me trying to fix my sister.
@@kic8523 And despite the hard lessons, many STILL don't learn
Kim is not trying to fix Jimmy. Kim is just like him. Jimmy even has some restraint
Yeah but she’s “in” I hope Kim realizes the danger and escapes with her life
Kim's never tried to "fix" Jimmy. If anything, she's been encouraging him.
The lighting and framing of this scene is deeply liminal. It captures the feeling of being outside of a school after dark.
Also the sound?
@Dylan Inmon now that's a comment right there
Bravo Vince!
And here we see how and why Kim Wexler became so self-reliant and resilient. It was her own way of surviving being raised by a careless and alcoholic mother.
Has anyone noticed that Kim mother's car has a Nebraska licence plate and Jimmy also moved to Nebraska?
Kim’s hometown is in Nebraska. Gene is in Nebraska for a reason.
Great work detectives.
@@nont18411 He didn’t choose to go there. The vacuum guy chooses where you’re gonna go. I doubt walter would have wanted to end up in New Hampshire
@@cocob0l0 Walt ended up in nowhere for a reason he’s a drug kingpin who involved in billionaire multinational drug empire.
@@cocob0l0 Also a suspect in 2 DEA agents death plus bombed the nursing home killed Gus Fringe, numerous murders (the witnesses) too. He was the most US wanted man at that point, too much heat, can’t even compared to anyone.
Oh god!! 😮 The looks, the gesture, bodily movements, the stares, the tone of voice, the way she speaks. You couldn’t be more right and on points than this.
This scene really hit me personally. My dad had a bad drinking problem and the worst thing was always the obvious lies. They are said with such conviction like you are a fool for even suggesting it. He wasn’t cruel or mean, just a damaged man. Eventually he developed some kind of brain damage that would make him suddenly start crying out of nowhere. You could be having a great time together and suddenly tears where rolling down and he’d be completely inconsolable.
This video will blow up once we knew Kim's fate
true enough
scene is all the more painful when you've experienced the exact situation multiple times as a kid. like watching myself on screen
This’ll sound dumb but it’s impressive how much she looks and sounds like a young Kim
This is where Kim really becomes a lone wolf bc she learns (well I’m sure it’s not a sudden thing but had been going on throughout her childhood) that only she can look out for herself and carry her own burdens alone. Of course they chose one of the heaviest instruments to make that burden quite literal
Would be nice if one day we see adult Kim playing her cello at home.
So heartbreaking.
The sad thing is so many children were traumatized by their own families in real life : (
This is the moment Kim became Giselle Saint Claire
Sad thing is there are many other children with parents who act just like this.
At first I wonder why she wasn’t just left the cello in her mom’s car. But come to think of it, she was mad and her mom couldn’t be trust with her responsible for anything.
I totally fall in love with her
All her life had to strugle and bemore mature that the person who was suposed to look for her just to succed.
I wish she was real. She's the kind of person who need the love from someone who trully protecv her.
#PleaseDontKillKim
your name is emma tf u gay
i'm in love with her too
Yall simping for a fictional character lmao
I noticed the “Red Cloud” junior high school sign. That’s Red Cloud Nebraska, home of Willa Cather. - I also think Jimmy is working at Cinnabon in Omaha, Nebraska because that’s Kim’s home state. (I used to love Cinnabon at Westroads Mall in Omaha and that’s where I think of when Gene’s scenes are on.) - I’m so hoping Kim and Jimmy are reunited at the end.
Darkly funny, she didn’t even trust her mom to drive her cello home while she walked home. Either she really valued her cello or she was just too proud.
It's pretty crazy that they got a kid that not only looks like a younger Kim, but acts like her too. Good fucking casting.
This is one of the scenes that really stuck with me for some reason...
It gives Jimmy and Kim’s relationship a very foundational level while everything else is professional and non personal in the show for the most part.
This scene is so relatable with being the last one to be picked up from school
Reminds you how scary the days before cell phones were (I’m kid saying cell loomed make everything better but in some aspects they help as in allowing you to call around and figure out a plan to get home safely). She was just left there, stranded and waiting.
Pink coat somewhat recalls pink hoodie from *that* scene
Props to this young actress she was even speaking English just like Kim! Bravo Vince
Honestly I thought this was something in the future. If the kid wasn't called Kim I would have honestly thought that this was a scene after the events of Breaking Bad that would have discovered what really happened to Kim that she hit rock bottom after what happened to Jimmy...
It’s obviously in the past. 80’s car, 80’s music, 80’s hairstyle.
this casting choice for young Kim is unbelievable, this series (+BB) is top notch in everything
The way she talks and moves are exactly like grown up Kim bravo to the actress
1:38 even makes the same facial expressions.
the casting for both young kim and kim’s mom is amazing. they both look very similar to rhea seehorn
The other day I came to think of something that, if intentional, lends an interesting allegory to this scene.
I'll lay it out here, in case it turns out to be.
(SPOILERS FOR SEASON 6!)
Gilligan has often been quite deliberate in what the actors wear and what they drive...
In the season 4 episode "Talk", there is a flashback sequence with a young Matthew Ehrmantraut. He is watching his father, Michael, lay down some cement in their front yard. Parked in the driveway is an AMC Matador.
In the 8th episode of the same season, "Coushatta", Ignacio Varga new daily is an AMC Javelin, after his Oldsmobile Cutlass was totaled.
For those who of you who dont know, AMC (American Motor Company) was a car company founded in 1954. Even if you're not car person, you've probably seen an AMC Pacer and Gremlin before. The company itself was something of an underdog, but unfortunately they had to fold before the turn of the millenium. The big boys were just too strong to compete with, and so AMC faded away. The AMC's still on the road just a memory of a company that's long since dead. Sound familiar?
Matthew Ehrmantraut
Michael Ehrmantraut
Ignacio Vargo
All underdogs who fought the system and lost. All eventually died on the wrong side of a gun barrel.
Kims mother drives an AMC Eagle.
Brilliant analysis! And thank you for the car notions... are you suggesting that something bad lies ahead for Kim?
@@vincenzobasile6730 > are you suggesting that something bad lies ahead for Kim?
You'd think so! But I'm not so sure! There are some clues that make this more than just an open and shut case.
First, lets analyze the others right quick. If we assume that the AMC cars are death cabs, then what can they tell us about the fates of their passengers?
Well, for one, it was brought to my attention that the AMC Matador was used by the police. Could Michaels Matador be an unmarked fleet vehicle?
In that case, Michael did not buy his deathcab, instead it was imposed upon him by his employer. Michael accepted the deathcab. Matthew wasn't given a choice. It led both of them down a bad choice road. Both Matthew and Michael can be said to have died because they tried to defy their employer.
Ignatio presumably bought his death cab, and he later voluntarily drove that death cab with Lalo in the passenger seat south of the border, knowing it might well be a one way trip, but doing it anyway to save his father. Ignatio was forced to buy his death cab, but he got into the driver seat and carried on down that bad choice road to protect his loved ones.
I also noticed that an AMC car appears in Breaking Bad. Christian Ortega, AKA Combo, deals some drugs to some junkies driving an AMC Eagle in the Season 2 episode "Mandela". The only thing worse than driving down bad choice road, is dealing drugs on bad choice road, and Ortega met his fate on the wrong side of a gun like the others.
But what about Kim? Kims death cab comes beckoning, but despite having a lot to carry, she does not get in. She takes a long hard look at the cab, and decides shes better off walking...Could this mean that Kim survives? I think so...
My belief is reinforced by the fact that the season 6 opener shows Saul Goodmans every asset being seized. EVERYTHING is taken away...except for the tequila bottle stopper that slips unnoticed onto the pavement. Perhaps, like that tequila stopper, Kim managed to slips through the fingers of fate, and is still out there somewhere. If only Jimmy could find her...
As for Lalo, that guy is toast. That is my prediction.
It will be interesting to see he surcumbs to bullet wounds like the others, which would validate my theory, but even if not, he is SO dead.
@@SilverSpade92 man this is very cool... if it will come out as true I wouldn't even be mad for the spoilers because of the brilliance, both from you and the authors
@@vincenzobasile6730 Oh shit, I'm sorry if I spoiled anything for you! :O
@@SilverSpade92 no you didn't, i was referring to your future predictions
i think, the personality of Kim's mom is similar to Jimmy's
When I first watched this scene I thought they recasted kaylee again 😂
This is the moment the girlbossification of Kimmy Wexler started
HER MOMS ACTOR WENT TO MY HIGH SCHOOL
Kim is just like me , stubborn but usually for a good reason.
I just noticed that Kim's mum is driving a similar or the same car Bill Oakley will drive in 2010. One of the BB universe's many playful and often chilling coincidences.
She stands just like the adult Kim.
“Don’t be stupid. Get in”
Ironically, it would have been incredibly stupid if Little Kimmy did get in.
For several years i didnt know what this was about despite her saying Kim multiple times.
She's from Omaha? Gene disappeared to Omaha, could this possibly mean that if Kim did disappeared she went to Omaha and maybe ends up finding Jimmy(Gene) there.
Imagine if she and Jimmy met at a young age
This may be the most perfect "mother of character and younger version of character" casting ever.
God I love this world where you can create stories I live for this, Kim is a fierce Qween 💅 she stands on her own two feet and her character had a mother who needed help overall Werk
Wonder what Walt was doing at that moment
Working at Grey Matter.
This is suppose to be in the early 80's. Kim was born in 1968 and Walt in 1958 so he was probably still in college.
God damn that girl's a great actor! Before her name was mentioned, I was thinking "idk who this person is but why does it seem like I've seen her before?"
It's perfect, down to the last minute details
Go Beth Hoyt! Moving on up! 🙌
tell me how disappoint she is. waiting for her mom till midnight to drive her home but she still had to walk :(
Just for the fun of it, since both Red Cloud (Kim place of birth) and Omaha (Gene Takovic cinnabon's city) are both in *Nebraska* , I checked the distance in Google maps. End result: they are only 200 miles appart. I wonder if Jimmy-Saul-Gene picked the place because of that. If season 6 second part really goes down the drain for Kim (and I won't spoil anything, but the horror has already hit her square in her pretty face), it would make some sense for her to flee, via "vaccum cleaner Ed", to her childhood place.
*Not* because she liked it, but because she is *familiar* with it - even more since her mother reguarly moved from one Nebraska home to another Nebraska home.
My theory: at the end of season 6 *if* she is still alive after some Gus-and-Lalo horror show, she will run to vaccum cleaner disapear Ed and tell me "exfiltrate me to Nebraska. If fucking Cartel or Fring wants to track me down, I'll be on familiar territory: for once my dysfunctional mom and childhood will be useful".
Somehow I've got a bad feeling that this scene is also when Kim saw her mother for the last time...
"You think you've lost everything? You have no idea" - Kim Wexler (S602)
Kimothy wexler III
Everyone is talking about young Kim but we missed how much her Mom actually looks and even sounds similar to her.
Poor Kim, this would have been the perfect time for the mom to stop the car and get out to walk beside her daughter and really apologize for her drinking habit and to say she would get help 😔
But not our Kimmy! couldn't be precious KIMMY!!!
80s! 🕺🏻🎶
It’s crazy how much Kim’s mom’s actress looks and sounds just like Rhea, the casting on this show is utterly phenomenal
Jesus I knew a kid whose dad was drunk and would always take a long time picking him up from school. The teachers didn’t give two shits and one day a substitute teacher called his dad and I never saw the kid again. He was always quiet and had holes in his clothes.
Name of the song?
Rick Springfield - Affair of the heart
Dam her crappy childhood beats mine but just barely.
This is the moment young Kim became S5 finale Lalo Salamanca
I know this is going to sound ignorant but hear me out. Kim's mother wasn't that drunk. Im sure she could make it the 3 miles home safely. I think this scene illustrates Kim desire to have more . More than being an afterthought. More than splitting a box of chicken nuggets with her drunk mother. She was rejecting that life, not just her mother's drunkenness. Now this scene could also be about self preservation. Most children , if they feel their parents are in danger, will try to help the best way they know how (like accompanying their mother home to ensure they both arrive home safely). But Kim doesn't do this. That's self preservation and a moral failing. Which, I will admit , does explain alot about Kim's personality.
no
I agree with everything except this being moral failing. Her moral failings may come from that desire, but the desire for more in itself isn't a failing.
I don't remember this!