I have a brand new Ruger with brand new BX-25 mags and they all feed poorly so I appreciate this video. I agree Ruger should be ashamed to produce these magazines without properly testing them for functionality. I saw a video where they fix the internals, I will try that first since it is an easier fix. If that does not work I will surely do this fix. thanks! And Bartosz, your English is just fine, very understandable.
The loose bushing on the follower causes the bullet to tilt, you can buy a correct size bushing for $10 on eBay & etsy or use a cut down 22 case to fill in the empty space in the loose bushing.
The sad part is the bx-25 mags work the best out of all the extended mags. I just use the 10 round rotary mag now it’s the only reliable mag for this gun
@@Johnyrocket70 this doesn't work anymore btw. I think Ruger "fixed" the intervals by making the bushings tighter but now due to the stricter tolerance, a used 22 casing does not work anymore. Still have FTF on all 6 of my new mags. I thought the internals would be an easy fix for me. Thank you OP for this vid.
Looks inside mag well you can see threaded screw points for adjustment. They are 12-24x-1/4 stop screws. They will push mag and adjust angle to where it needs to be. Cheers good luck.
Small strips of Velcro that have tape on one side work well also. I just bought a Ruger 10/22 Charger. The 15 round mag it came with works fine. The two BX-25 mags I ordered won’t feed at all. The shells sit with the tip of the round facing downward. I disassembled the mag, took off the red plate, cut a .22LR round down so that it fits over the the small red rod going into the red plate & now my shells are angled correctly! Great video brother!
This works GREAT! I too was disappointed in my beloved Ruger when I kept having trouble with the BX-25. I followed your instructions and now have 2 perfectly functioning mags. Thanks very much for the video.
You have done a wonderful job informing and instructing us to fix a well known problem Ruger should have addressed many years ago. Ruger continues to sell a product that will not work in their own rifle. My Ruger performs flawlessly with the 10 round rotatory mag and fails continously with the Ruger BX-25. I have tried a variety of "hot" ammo and the BX-25 is useless. How can a company and a gun with such a good reputation let a problem like this continue? A very bad business model., but thank you solving the problem.
Hey, greetings from the American south!! Thanks for the video! Your English is much better than a lot of the people I know who live in the United States, so don't ever think that you don't speak English fluently. Also, If you ever need any parts for anything that are hard to get where you live, feel free to message me. I have a license to buy/sell firearms and parts, and I'd be more than happy to work out a way to send them over to you. I know magazines and some accessories are not allowed to be exported a normal way, but any springs or small parts or anything like that aren't regulated at all so they wont be a problem. Keep up the good work, and keep shooting!!!
Just bought my first Ruger 10/22. I was bummed as the BX-25 didn't feed at all after multiple tries. Worked perfect with the stock 10 round mag. It's a bummer as this seems to be quite a common problem. Thanks for taking the time I'm going to add to the list of possible fixes.
I tried your 25 round magazine repair. Wasn’t as pretty as yours and I didn’t have metal bonding epoxy… But my clear 5-minute stuff gets as hard as the polymer magazine casing. With my CCi polymer-coated high-velocity 22LR shells I shot 50 rounds without a single jam . Cheers, Alan
The mag being loose is not the only problem of this magazine. These mags have an internal problem as well, when fully loaded sometimes the rounds are pointing horizontally rather than slightly upward causing a failure to feed. The follower inside is also too loose and doesn't always line the bullet correctly to point toward the chamber.
Totally agree with you and wouldn't it make sense to have a ramp at the bottom of the barrel chamber to help guide the rounds in more smoothly like my SA 9MM pistols? See my comment on how I solved the front to back play on the mags. I did the bushing thing with a shell case on the follower pin inside the mag that I saw on another video. I had pretty good results today after trying one fully loaded mag with only one stovepipe on the 24th round. I think there is still an issue with the sideways play in the mag well. Ruger should have solved the problem before putting them on the market imo!
DwinDEW it has nothing to do with fitmemt watch video of guy using a spent 22 as a bushing in the spring to tighten follower. (If you got 22 shorts u dont even trim). Guys video name is gary
@@ricklamesbitch1 could you possibly post a pic of that? I'm interested in your results but definitely do NOT want to do any serious damage to the chamber.
Bought two BX 25 Ruger Mags for my 10/22 takedown...terrible gap and wobble. Thought something was wrong with gun... replaced trigger assy with Rugers accessory 2.5 lb pull trigger assy, put the swiss extractor in, still problem. Ruger took it back and went completely thru it and returned to me a new (bolt/receiver) gun. Better, Thank You Ruger, nice try and appreciated...but still occasional failure to eject. Have used tape to build up mag and eliminate wiggle as experiment, works. Will build up as Barosz shows in his excellent video. PS...Bought two Pro Mag 25 and they are worthless. The magazines will not hold 15 rounds before burping them out like an auto feed...yes, that is out of the gun. Sometimes they would just stand the first round straight up like a rocket. Sent them back to Pro Mag at my expense...had to ask what happened to them 2 weeks later...they sent me replacements (not sure they were any different) which have exactly the same problem. Don't buy Pro Mag garbage.
Great video! No problems understanding your English . Ruger should have made them as wide as the 10 round mags. If you compare them side by side you notice that the 10 rd mags are wider and fit snugly . So you just have to increase the width on the 25 rd to match the 10 rd and it will fit as snugly and not have failures
i cannot thank you enough for making this video. I will follow your steps. I am experiencing the exact problem that you referred to. I called Ruger and nobody called me back. I am going to buy the stuff tomorrow and get to work on this. I’ll chime back in afterwards and let everyone know how it went!
I just ordered the same. I'm hoping this fixes the issue. Mine wont feed hollow points. It feeds round nose all day everyday, but more than 75% of every hollow point round just jams.
@@Pendragon501 there's a horizontal raised bar on the back of the BX25. Try putting a 7/16 strip of Flex Tape over it. It will keep the magazine pushed forward a little bit and keep the mag straight. It might fix your failure to feed issue. Might need 2 peices of Tape. If this works take the tape off and build up some JB weld on it and file it down. That's the way I fixed mine. If you compare the 10 round magazines with the 15 or 25. The 10 stays straight in the gun because its slightly larger than the others. The 15 & 25 are sometimes kinda loose and wobble forward and backwards. Pushing the 25 round mag forward might make it better or fix it completely. Hopefully it works for you. I was so pissed, I was about to send my gun in. It was so easy to fix,but it's really frustrating if you don't know exactly what the problem is.
@@Thundarr995 I tried that with foam tape. Didn't make a difference. I did however fix the problem. That problem was that the edge of the chamber entrance was razor sharp. I filed down the lower left edge (ever so slightly) where the bullets enter from and polished it smooth. Now it feeds absolutely everything without issue.
@@Thundarr995 I just ran into this bullshit with my brand new 10/22 this past weekend. Would have bought a Savage had I known this Ruger issue. Guess I'll be exploring some flex tape or JB weld
OK, I tried this fix last week but it did not fix my feeding issues with the BX25's. I also tried the 22lr case bushing trick on the follower, also didn't help. BUT I just replaced the stock Ruger 10/22 extractor with a Volquartsen Exact Edge Extractor and my feeding issues are GONE. I also replaced the extractor on my Ruger Mark IV (same extractor) and it has also fixed it's feeding issues!!! I just ran about 500 rounds between 2 bx25's and 4 Mark IV mags and not a single issue!
I have had a 10/22 in my collection for many many years and never had any problems except when the orignal mag was dirty after cleaning no problem.....Also I use Butler creek hi capicity mags and have never had any trouble....I have put may thousands of rounds downrange.
I just cut some sections of sniper tape and wrapped the whole top section of the mag where it fits into the mag well. You just need to be accurate and careful to cut holes for the sprung fittings, but the tape worked perfectly for me. After thousands of rounds and several hundred insertions and extractions of the mag, I refreshed/replaced the tape and away I went again. No glue, no fuss, no drying time or Dremel/sanding. The advantage of the tape was it also removed all side to side movement of the mag when inserted. The original 10 round mags feed perfectly as do the two BX15 mags I have. The BX25 was terrible originally, but the tape trick worked fine. Now my 1022 is fitted with an Arthur E Brown M1 carbine stock, iron sights again, and I bought two new 10 round mags and then epoxied the Arthur E Brown dummy polymer M1 carbine mags onto the bases of them to complete 'the look'. It does look pretty cool and is a handy little 'replica' M1 carbine. (Living in the UK, we cannot own live action M1 carbines!! So my 1022 is the closest I will ever get!) and the advantage of the dummy mags is they provide an excellent handle for loading and unloading the 10 round magazines into the rifle. I have retired my BX25!!
Bro you for sure helped me. I just bought my son a 10/22 because everyone I've ever shot has never ever jammed or malfunctioned in any way. His came with one 15 round msg and two 25 attached mags and flipped opposite ways. The 15 jams a little but both 25's jam iF AND THAT'S A BIG IF they EVEN go into battery. Thank you for your help I'M DOING THIS IMMEDIATELY 🤙
I hear from many people that have tried the long magazines that they all jam, or have feeding issues. This makes perfect sense to correct the feeding issues. Thank you for s goodvideo and sharing your discovery.
Thank you for the video and the idea. I changed the product and shortened the wait time. I used the JB Weld steel stick and didn’t have to wait because the product is already the consistency of putty when the two parts are combined!
Just back from the range conducting an experiment. Firing my 10 22 with bx 1 three types of ammo, bx 25 three types ammo and modified bx 25 as shown in this youtube having zero play in the mag. Federal supressor and federal copper plated hollow point fired flawlessly two mags each. Federal lead round nose match jammed every 3 to four rounds also fired two mags in a row. I am now convinced that the ruger mags are not the cource of the jam problem. Seems the gun is sensetive to the ammo used. I had two boxes of aquila left and tried them too, it jamms. I went back to suppressor and shoot flawlessly two 25 round maggs. I had my wife,s ruger 22 lcp, it also jamms with the bad ammo. I strongly feel that using the right ammo is the solution to smooth shooting. Love my ruger ec9s 9mm, shoots any ammo with no problem seems that small caliber guns have small tolerances and therefore selective with the ammo.
Ruger BX-25 magazines are made for multiple ruger 22 lr type rifle that's why it's not a snug fit and some has feeding issues but it can be fix easily.
Well done job, good work on your part. Your "fix" makes sense & you applied your idea for a solid job. I think the word you were looking for is "cure" what the epoxy would do during the 10 hour time period.
Thank you! Just purchased 2 BX-25 magazines (from Ruger) and both of them stovepipe and misfeed regardless of what brand of ammo I use. I might try your modification but not until I give Ruger a call. I agree 100%, how can such a reputable company as Ruger continue to sell faulty magazines...Shame on them!
Excellent detail video! the standard 10 shot magazines are rotary, bit like a revolver. these are linear fed by a leaf spring. Well done on the video, very clear and concise!!
Good ole Ruger didn't think you NEEDED more then 10 shots. BUT all the money he could make selling you 25s. What to do what to do. Lets make it a different size so it KINDA works and kinda fouls every 10 shots or so. The poster also wondered why q0 shots fit the little cube but 15-25 go way down in a banana clip Well it's because they are single stacked down the stick and not wrapped around the carousel like in the cube. Others have also mentioned putting an expent shell on the follower to keep it from tipping. Good idea as well AND its not like we don't have a ready supply. Just one note. When using those two part systems OR one part silicone/shoe goo, glues. When you open the tube before you puncture the seal, wipe a bit of Vaseline on the threads, it will keep it sealed and the glue won't go bad for long exposures. And NEVER touch one tube and then the other with the same applicator. Just a thing I learned on the job and saved the company money. My Manager was also a stickler for wiping the locktite tube clean and not using the applicator to apply but to put a bit on a pad and dip toothpicks from there. Had a 10 year old bottle of locktite we finally made it through. He was Scottish and laughed at people who could get pennies to sing. He got his to write sheet music.
Just ordered a BX25x2 should I have any problems with it, I'll do the bushing fix first, try that, and if I still have issues I definately keep this in mind.... Thanks for another fix!!!! Your English is great, especially considering you're translating technical terms. Thanks again for the video.
Dear Mr. Bartosz Bodnar, I am VERY happy you made this video, thank you! I really like the method you used, and the video is very easy to understand, a very well made video. Thank you for helping your fellow Ruger owners!
@@VagoniusThicket Here's a video that shows how it works. I just bought one earlier today, I haven't used it yet though. They also make a double one, you use TWO 10 rd mags and they make a 'deal' for them that connects them. It's supposed to work really well. ruclips.net/video/g3r04h5g5FU/видео.html Their website is www.tandemkross.com
Fantastic info thank you. I have 5 BX-25 round mags and they are all shit. I used 500 gt sandpaper to smooth in the ramp on the mags just to get them to feed.
I "might have a simpler fast fix using a rubber band. I was having trouble with my brand new magazine. I simply used a rubber band going from the mag to the barrel band. It holds the mag at the angle you mentioned. Goin to the range sat. I'll report back one way or other.
Great video and work. I haven't had any problems with my set up. the 30 year old Butler Creek mags work fine in the 45 year old 10-22. If I decide to get hi-cap Ruger mags I'll do this first.
You can fix it with a cut down 22 case or a smaller bushing for the mag follower on eBay. The follower tilting from the slack in the loose bushing causes the problem. $10 shipped for a correct size bushing on eBay & etsy
I tried something similar to this and it didn't work very well plus mixing two part epoxy is a hassle. So today I came up with something better that isn't messy but is a little challenging. I had some 5/32nd acrylic sheet that I fabricated into 1/4" wide strips and attached them vertically on the sides of the back of the magazine with double back scotch tape. I ground the factory bump down flat where I mounted them, with my dremel. You have to make sure that they don't interfere with the capture/release button in the mag well. It totally solved the front/ back play but I'm still thinking about something similar to this to fix the side to side play.
I forgot to mention that I spent quite a bit of time polishing the feed ramp and extending it a little further down in the mag. My polymer rounds were hitting below the ramp and jamming but are coming out smoothly now. I still think Ruger should have made a feed ramp at the throat of the chamber to guide the rounds in more smoothly.
The only fix I've found is that the back of the feed ramp has a taper to it unlike the 10 rotary mag that has to be filed flatter and the 4 mags I have work perfectly after that mod. Check it out and compare it to the 10rd rotary and you'll see what I mean. The 10rd is flat on the back of the up coming feed and the 25rd has a taper. I filed them down semi flat and have no more problems.
You had a soldering iron right there. Just stipple that bar area. And it would have filled the gap without the glue. I have done this with the internal of an AR stock to take slop out. Prevent rattling. If it too tight just sand a little until fits to your liking. And nothing in between to come off. Or jam.
All great, but I'd suggest trying something like - J-B Weld 8267 SteelStik Steel Reinforced Epoxy Putty Stick (J-B WELD STEELSTIK: A hand mixable two part epoxy putty stick that is steel reinforced & non-rusting to quickly repair or rebuild anything made of metal).
the primary ejector is on the magazine on the 10/22. that fucked up angle can eject a cartridge too soon and end up with a stove pipe. ive seen it demonstrated
I've seen that too, but with my brand new 10/22 I never had that particular problem. My problem is exactly what he's talking about here. Lead nose bullet feeds in at too sharp of an angle and jams the nose right up on the edge of the feed. And yeah, I was pretty pissed off at Ruger when I found this issue. I paid a lot of money for several defective magazines.
I’m not sure but I believe Ruger did fix the issues with this mag. I bought a new one earlier this year it is very tight and has had no malfunction issues so far after shooting a 1000 rounds or so at steel challenge matches. I’ll fix my other, older mag, using the tips here.
Jim D just bought mine today and it doesn’t feed the bullet. My 10 round loads flawlessly. It doesn’t wiggle like all the ones I have been seeing on RUclips though.
This has been an issue since they started making these mags, I have a BX25x2 magazine the doubled version, it fits just as poorly as the regular BX25 mags. Shame on you Ruger is right, you would think that they'd have corrected the issue by now and recalled the old mags that don't fit properly and replace them with new improved models. Terrible waste of money for me because the BX25X2 isn't cheap..think I paid around 50 bucks for it so I'm a bit upset that it does not function like the standard 10rd mags do....how the hell did they get the measurement so off on the BX mags when they already had the 10rd mags to go off of...sheesh...step it up Ruger, you're slacking. I now have 3 ruger different rugers that all have slight issues like this as well...malfunction one way or another or have imperfections you wouldn't expect from such well known and supposedly respected producers of such products.
Damn good video, very clever solution! I've got a Ruger precision rimfire that takes the same mags. Came with 3- 15-round magazines. They all have the same problem. The slightest bit of pressure on the magazine will cause a hang up. I've got some JB quick, some masking tape, and a Dremel. I know what I'll be doing with my time later, thanks!
Thank you so much for the info. I will try it before the next time I go to the range. This makes so much more sense than the 22cal. spent cartridge follower fix on youtube.
@Al Chisare You are talking about Two separate problems. One is the wiggly mag that causes jams and failure to feed when the mag is angled wrong. The other is the follower inside the mag gets stuck and won’t feed the rounds up. This only fixes the wiggle in the mag.
I have two 10/22s. One runs perfectly with both Ruger BX25s and Butler Creek 25 round mags. The other won’t run with the Ruger mags and also with the newer Butler Creeks. It never has problems with the older Butler Creeks. I’m going to try this on a couple mags to see if it solves my problems with that rifle. It would be nice if all the mags ran in both guns!
Mine only has an issue with the first one or 2 rounds out of the bx25 mag when i use hollowpoints. If i only load 20 rounds its fine. I can load all 25 rds without issue with round nose bullets both plated or lead either one.
I agree. It is the ammunition. Fully loaded mag can have a feed issue for the first round since the mag spring is fully stretched to max force. I learned to load the mag with rifle oil on my hands after cleaning the gun and oiling it. Seems the oily hands lubricate the rounds as one inserts them into the mag and makes the round slip better into the barrel.
@@mikeguy9668 ....not really, I gorilla glue black electrical tape to both sides of the inserted part of the mag, I add another layer until it's tight, I don't mind a little yank at first, then they wear in to fit perfect...jmo
A 22 shell inside between the follower and the bushing the spring wraps around. Also theres a different bushing someone sells for the mags to replace it.
Thanks, tight can be too tight, the mag should fall out of the well when ejected so it looks like some testing needs to be done. Oh Boy! I'm heading to the range!
Nice job, my 25 rd mag already does pretty good but this would clearly help. However I have a 110 rd drum I believe I'll try this on because it struggles more than the mag also the upgrade bolts help as well.
I use an off brand BX25 style mags and they work perfect for over 3 years and many thousands of rounds. If you buy the off brand ones just make sure they have the steel feed lips
Great video! I thunk I'm going to try this on one of mine and see how it goes. It seemed like the fit was really tight, maybe too tight. Maybe one or 2 light passes with a fine file would leave it snug but not too snug.
Buy a ProMag like I did ! Its perfect for not only 10 rounds, but also 15 & 25 rounds meanwhile its cheaper than Ruger .... ! Here in the U.S. we have people coming from all around the world, not all can speak perfect English ! Like a guy from the U.K. come to the U.S., the way he speaks is different from local American ! We can well understand you English .... its nothing to be sorry or shy, you just present yourself ! 👍✌
They make little round and square pads of all kinds that are extremely sticky on one side, rubber/vinyl or felt on the other. Look in the 3M tape area of your local hardware store of choice.
When I use these mags they feed fine I just get failure to eject and stove piping. Thanks I'll try this, I'm also going to dremel file out the action in front of the bolt, and then polish, giving the spent casing more room to eject. I could understand you just fine. Thanks
I have 4 and all work well.....some ammo is very bad like winchester super x in the bulk has very inconsistent hollow point holes and bullet heads on them so ammo for auto-loading 22 is paramount.
Yup. Same problem here. I got a two-pack of them and one seems to run great but the other was jamming the round cocked up and all that. Very disappointed in Ruger for putting this out there in this condition. Its ridiculous.
Funny I don't have a problem with my older model 10/22 and 25 bx mag but I do with my newer 10/22. I noticed that if I put pressure on the mag bottom with the new 10/22 and 25 bx mag that it functioned flawlessly. If I didn't it would shave rounds.
Yeah, my old Ruger from the late 1990s ran almost flawless and was much higher quality than the one I bought around 2008 as a replacement since my other went missing.
That is a brilliant solution to fix the movement of the magazine in the well. Do not worry about your English, you explained the process perfectly. 👍
I have a brand new Ruger with brand new BX-25 mags and they all feed poorly so I appreciate this video. I agree Ruger should be ashamed to produce these magazines without properly testing them for functionality. I saw a video where they fix the internals, I will try that first since it is an easier fix. If that does not work I will surely do this fix. thanks! And Bartosz, your English is just fine, very understandable.
The loose bushing on the follower causes the bullet to tilt, you can buy a correct size bushing for $10 on eBay & etsy or use a cut down 22 case to fill in the empty space in the loose bushing.
We are Rugers test dummies. Sig does this too with their pistols
Brian Carrier but it been sooooo long
The sad part is the bx-25 mags work the best out of all the extended mags. I just use the 10 round rotary mag now it’s the only reliable mag for this gun
@@Johnyrocket70 this doesn't work anymore btw. I think Ruger "fixed" the intervals by making the bushings tighter but now due to the stricter tolerance, a used 22 casing does not work anymore. Still have FTF on all 6 of my new mags. I thought the internals would be an easy fix for me. Thank you OP for this vid.
You are correct, shame on Ruger for not correcting this long standing issue
Great permanent solution to a problem that many 10/22 users run into. You did a great job of both explaining and demonstrating it. Thanks.
Looks inside mag well you can see threaded screw points for adjustment. They are 12-24x-1/4 stop screws. They will push mag and adjust angle to where it needs to be. Cheers good luck.
Small strips of Velcro that have tape on one side work well also. I just bought a Ruger 10/22 Charger. The 15 round mag it came with works fine. The two BX-25 mags I ordered won’t feed at all. The shells sit with the tip of the round facing downward. I disassembled the mag, took off the red plate, cut a .22LR round down so that it fits over the the small red rod going into the red plate & now my shells are angled correctly!
Great video brother!
Get some 12-24x1/4 screws and install in mag well you’ll see where they go. It’s for mag adjustment. Cheers
This works GREAT! I too was disappointed in my beloved Ruger when I kept having trouble with the BX-25. I followed your instructions and now have 2 perfectly functioning mags. Thanks very much for the video.
You have done a wonderful job informing and instructing us to fix a well known problem Ruger should have addressed many years ago. Ruger continues to sell a product that will not work in their own rifle. My Ruger performs flawlessly with the 10 round rotatory mag and fails continously with the Ruger BX-25. I have tried a variety of "hot" ammo and the BX-25 is useless. How can a company and a gun with such a good reputation let a problem like this continue? A very bad business model., but thank you solving the problem.
Hey, greetings from the American south!!
Thanks for the video! Your English is much better than a lot of the people I know who live in the United States, so don't ever think that you don't speak English fluently. Also, If you ever need any parts for anything that are hard to get where you live, feel free to message me. I have a license to buy/sell firearms and parts, and I'd be more than happy to work out a way to send them over to you. I know magazines and some accessories are not allowed to be exported a normal way, but any springs or small parts or anything like that aren't regulated at all so they wont be a problem.
Keep up the good work, and keep shooting!!!
Your English is fine. Thank you for helping all us Ruger 10/22 owners.
Your English is fine along with tip and explanation !! Very good!!!
Just bought my first Ruger 10/22. I was bummed as the BX-25 didn't feed at all after multiple tries. Worked perfect with the stock 10 round mag. It's a bummer as this seems to be quite a common problem. Thanks for taking the time I'm going to add to the list of possible fixes.
I tried your 25 round magazine repair. Wasn’t as pretty as yours and I didn’t have metal bonding epoxy… But my clear 5-minute stuff gets as hard as the polymer magazine casing. With my CCi polymer-coated high-velocity 22LR shells I shot 50 rounds without a single jam .
Cheers,
Alan
The mag being loose is not the only problem of this magazine. These mags have an internal problem as well, when fully loaded sometimes the rounds are pointing horizontally rather than slightly upward causing a failure to feed. The follower inside is also too loose and doesn't always line the bullet correctly to point toward the chamber.
Totally agree with you and wouldn't it make sense to have a ramp at the bottom of the barrel chamber to help guide the rounds in more smoothly like my SA 9MM pistols? See my comment on how I solved the front to back play on the mags. I did the bushing thing with a shell case on the follower pin inside the mag that I saw on another video. I had pretty good results today after trying one fully loaded mag with only one stovepipe on the 24th round. I think there is still an issue with the sideways play in the mag well. Ruger should have solved the problem before putting them on the market imo!
DwinDEW it has nothing to do with fitmemt watch video of guy using a spent 22 as a bushing in the spring to tighten follower. (If you got 22 shorts u dont even trim). Guys video name is gary
I create a small feed ramp on mine...helps a ton.
@@ricklamesbitch1 could you possibly post a pic of that? I'm interested in your results but definitely do NOT want to do any serious damage to the chamber.
i load mine with 20rds and any more will risk misfeed
Bought two BX 25 Ruger Mags for my 10/22 takedown...terrible gap and wobble. Thought something was wrong with gun... replaced trigger assy with Rugers accessory 2.5 lb pull trigger assy, put the swiss extractor in, still problem. Ruger took it back and went completely thru it and returned to me a new (bolt/receiver) gun. Better, Thank You Ruger, nice try and appreciated...but still occasional failure to eject. Have used tape to build up mag and eliminate wiggle as experiment, works. Will build up as Barosz shows in his excellent video. PS...Bought two Pro Mag 25 and they are worthless. The magazines will not hold 15 rounds before burping them out like an auto feed...yes, that is out of the gun. Sometimes they would just stand the first round straight up like a rocket. Sent them back to Pro Mag at my expense...had to ask what happened to them 2 weeks later...they sent me replacements (not sure they were any different) which have exactly the same problem. Don't buy Pro Mag garbage.
Pro Mag is about as bad as having no mag.
I just bought some new BX-25's and the issue has not been fixed by Ruger. Thanks to you, I plan to follow your tips for fixing.
Great video!
No problems understanding your English .
Ruger should have made them as wide as the 10 round mags. If you compare them side by side you notice that the 10 rd mags are wider and fit snugly . So you just have to increase the width on the 25 rd to match the 10 rd and it will fit as snugly and not have failures
Just took my brand new 10/22 out this past weekend with BX25 mag and jammed so much I couldn't believe it
I have the epoxy and I have a dremmel. Nothing is stopping me now. THANKS BRO.👍👍👍
Actually your English is better than alot of English speaking people.
Excellent video and very good demonstration of both the problem and the cure. And your English is excellent. No apologies necessary. Thanks!
i cannot thank you enough for making this video. I will follow your steps. I am experiencing the exact problem that you referred to. I called Ruger and nobody called me back. I am going to buy the stuff tomorrow and get to work on this. I’ll chime back in afterwards and let everyone know how it went!
I just bought a kidd extractor and kidd plunger with stiffer spring for $20. Fixed problem!!
Kidd makes good stuff. I have the extractor and spring kit
I just ordered the same. I'm hoping this fixes the issue. Mine wont feed hollow points. It feeds round nose all day everyday, but more than 75% of every hollow point round just jams.
@@Pendragon501 there's a horizontal raised bar on the back of the BX25. Try putting a 7/16 strip of Flex Tape over it. It will keep the magazine pushed forward a little bit and keep the mag straight. It might fix your failure to feed issue. Might need 2 peices of Tape. If this works take the tape off and build up some JB weld on it and file it down. That's the way I fixed mine. If you compare the 10 round magazines with the 15 or 25. The 10 stays straight in the gun because its slightly larger than the others. The 15 & 25 are sometimes kinda loose and wobble forward and backwards. Pushing the 25 round mag forward might make it better or fix it completely. Hopefully it works for you. I was so pissed, I was about to send my gun in. It was so easy to fix,but it's really frustrating if you don't know exactly what the problem is.
@@Thundarr995 I tried that with foam tape. Didn't make a difference. I did however fix the problem. That problem was that the edge of the chamber entrance was razor sharp. I filed down the lower left edge (ever so slightly) where the bullets enter from and polished it smooth. Now it feeds absolutely everything without issue.
@@Thundarr995 I just ran into this bullshit with my brand new 10/22 this past weekend. Would have bought a Savage had I known this Ruger issue. Guess I'll be exploring some flex tape or JB weld
Hey dont worry. Your english is great. Dont apologize for it. Thanks for the video bud.
OK, I tried this fix last week but it did not fix my feeding issues with the BX25's. I also tried the 22lr case bushing trick on the follower, also didn't help. BUT I just replaced the stock Ruger 10/22 extractor with a Volquartsen Exact Edge Extractor and my feeding issues are GONE. I also replaced the extractor on my Ruger Mark IV (same extractor) and it has also fixed it's feeding issues!!! I just ran about 500 rounds between 2 bx25's and 4 Mark IV mags and not a single issue!
Kind of makes you wonder if these feeding issues might not be a magazine problem, but something else.
@@900stx7 Right! But the 10 round mags were trouble free for me.
I have had a 10/22 in my collection for many many years and never had any problems except when the orignal mag was dirty after cleaning no problem.....Also I use Butler creek hi capicity mags and have never had any trouble....I have put may thousands of rounds downrange.
I think your English is great. Thanks for the video!
I just cut some sections of sniper tape and wrapped the whole top section of the mag where it fits into the mag well. You just need to be accurate and careful to cut holes for the sprung fittings, but the tape worked perfectly for me. After thousands of rounds and several hundred insertions and extractions of the mag, I refreshed/replaced the tape and away I went again. No glue, no fuss, no drying time or Dremel/sanding. The advantage of the tape was it also removed all side to side movement of the mag when inserted. The original 10 round mags feed perfectly as do the two BX15 mags I have. The BX25 was terrible originally, but the tape trick worked fine.
Now my 1022 is fitted with an Arthur E Brown M1 carbine stock, iron sights again, and I bought two new 10 round mags and then epoxied the Arthur E Brown dummy polymer M1 carbine mags onto the bases of them to complete 'the look'. It does look pretty cool and is a handy little 'replica' M1 carbine. (Living in the UK, we cannot own live action M1 carbines!! So my 1022 is the closest I will ever get!) and the advantage of the dummy mags is they provide an excellent handle for loading and unloading the 10 round magazines into the rifle. I have retired my BX25!!
When I built mine I got the volquartsen tg2000 trigger group. It’s designed to make the mags fit tighter
i haven't had a problem with the bx25 mag but i will definitely remember this awesome video thumbs up
Bro you for sure helped me. I just bought my son a 10/22 because everyone I've ever shot has never ever jammed or malfunctioned in any way. His came with one 15 round msg and two 25 attached mags and flipped opposite ways. The 15 jams a little but both 25's jam iF AND THAT'S A BIG IF they EVEN go into battery. Thank you for your help I'M DOING THIS IMMEDIATELY 🤙
I hear from many people that have tried the long magazines that they all jam, or have feeding issues. This makes perfect sense to correct the feeding issues. Thank you for s goodvideo and sharing your discovery.
Outstanding!! [and don't worry -- your English is a whole lot better than my Czechoslovakian!]
Your English is fine and I understood every step....Thank you for the video, it helped me fix my problem.
Thank you for the video and the idea. I changed the product and shortened the wait time. I used the JB Weld steel stick and didn’t have to wait because the product is already the consistency of putty when the two parts are combined!
Just back from the range conducting an experiment. Firing my 10 22 with bx 1 three types of ammo, bx 25 three types ammo and modified bx 25 as shown in this youtube having zero play in the mag. Federal supressor and federal copper plated hollow point fired flawlessly two mags each. Federal lead round nose match jammed every 3 to four rounds also fired two mags in a row. I am now convinced that the ruger mags are not the cource of the jam problem. Seems the gun is sensetive to the ammo used. I had two boxes of aquila left and tried them too, it jamms. I went back to suppressor and shoot flawlessly two 25 round maggs. I had my wife,s ruger 22 lcp, it also jamms with the bad ammo. I strongly feel that using the right ammo is the solution to smooth shooting. Love my ruger ec9s 9mm, shoots any ammo with no problem seems that small caliber guns have small tolerances and therefore selective with the ammo.
Ruger BX-25 magazines are made for multiple ruger 22 lr type rifle that's why it's not a snug fit and some has feeding issues but it can be fix easily.
Well done job, good work on your part. Your "fix" makes sense & you applied your idea for a solid job. I think the word you were looking for is "cure" what the epoxy would do during the 10 hour time period.
Don't worry ur english is pretty clear!!! Good job!!!
Thank you! Just purchased 2 BX-25 magazines (from Ruger) and both of them stovepipe and misfeed regardless of what brand of ammo I use.
I might try your modification but not until I give Ruger a call. I agree 100%, how can such a reputable company as Ruger continue to sell faulty magazines...Shame on them!
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Excellent detail video! the standard 10 shot magazines are rotary, bit like a revolver. these are linear fed by a leaf spring. Well done on the video, very clear and concise!!
Good ole Ruger didn't think you NEEDED more then 10 shots. BUT all the money he could make selling you 25s. What to do what to do. Lets make it a different size so it KINDA works and kinda fouls every 10 shots or so.
The poster also wondered why q0 shots fit the little cube but 15-25 go way down in a banana clip Well it's because they are single stacked down the stick and not wrapped around the carousel like in the cube.
Others have also mentioned putting an expent shell on the follower to keep it from tipping. Good idea as well AND its not like we don't have a ready supply.
Just one note. When using those two part systems OR one part silicone/shoe goo, glues. When you open the tube before you puncture the seal, wipe a bit of Vaseline on the threads, it will keep it sealed and the glue won't go bad for long exposures. And NEVER touch one tube and then the other with the same applicator. Just a thing I learned on the job and saved the company money. My Manager was also a stickler for wiping the locktite tube clean and not using the applicator to apply but to put a bit on a pad and dip toothpicks from there. Had a 10 year old bottle of locktite we finally made it through. He was Scottish and laughed at people who could get pennies to sing. He got his to write sheet music.
Just ordered a BX25x2 should I have any problems with it, I'll do the bushing fix first, try that, and if I still have issues I definately keep this in mind.... Thanks for another fix!!!!
Your English is great, especially considering you're translating technical terms. Thanks again for the video.
Dear Mr. Bartosz Bodnar, I am VERY happy you made this video, thank you! I really like the method you used, and the video is very easy to understand, a very well made video. Thank you for helping your fellow Ruger owners!
99trubrit thank you and you are welcome 😀
Typical smart Hungarian . 😉🧐. They figure out how to fix anything. 👍🍺
I have never liked long mags. I use a clip that allows three standard ten round mags to be joined together. Works great.
Long mags that work are a great bonus to have, but ones that do not are completely useless.
This sounds retarded
🤪😆🤪🤡🤡🤡. How the hell would that work ? 🤦🏻💩 Hallucinating .
@@VagoniusThicket Here's a video that shows how it works. I just bought one earlier today, I haven't used it yet though.
They also make a double one, you use TWO 10 rd mags and they make a 'deal' for them that connects them. It's supposed to work really well.
ruclips.net/video/g3r04h5g5FU/видео.html
Their website is www.tandemkross.com
RUGER WE LOVE YOUR 10/22s please fix this ! ! !
Fantastic info thank you. I have 5 BX-25 round mags and they are all shit. I used 500 gt sandpaper to smooth in the ramp on the mags just to get them to feed.
Fantastic job mate, and an awesome e long term fix to those sloppy bastard BX25 mags. Love ya work champion!!!!!🤙🤙🍺🍺🍺🍺
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. It's very helpful for me, as I'm having the same issues!
Rob S - I'm sure you will be happy when you use this method. Happy I could help! :)
I "might have a simpler fast fix using a rubber band. I was having trouble with my brand new magazine. I simply used a rubber band going from the mag to the barrel band. It holds the mag at the angle you mentioned. Goin to the range sat. I'll report back one way or other.
Great video and work. I haven't had any problems with my set up. the 30 year old Butler Creek mags work fine in the 45 year old 10-22. If I decide to get hi-cap Ruger mags I'll do this first.
You can fix it with a cut down 22 case or a smaller bushing for the mag follower on eBay. The follower tilting from the slack in the loose bushing causes the problem. $10 shipped for a correct size bushing on eBay & etsy
I tried something similar to this and it didn't work very well plus mixing two part epoxy is a hassle. So today I came up with something better that isn't messy but is a little challenging. I had some 5/32nd acrylic sheet that I fabricated into 1/4" wide strips and attached them vertically on the sides of the back of the magazine with double back scotch tape. I ground the factory bump down flat where I mounted them, with my dremel. You have to make sure that they don't interfere with the capture/release button in the mag well. It totally solved the front/ back play but I'm still thinking about something similar to this to fix the side to side play.
I forgot to mention that I spent quite a bit of time polishing the feed ramp and extending it a little further down in the mag. My polymer rounds were hitting below the ramp and jamming but are coming out smoothly now. I still think Ruger should have made a feed ramp at the throat of the chamber to guide the rounds in more smoothly.
Won’t acrylic crack from fatigue use ? Will tape hold up to wet weather ?
I LIKE YOUR ENGLISH ...LOL IT WORKED PERFECTLY..!!!! TIP ==== GO SLOW TAKE YOUR TIME "DON'T RUSH"
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They sell them at Walmart for $3-4
They work great
Can you explain please? Pic?
You have your scope mounted 90 degrees off the up down turret is to the left and your left right turret is on top.
First don't worry about your English, you're doing just fine, and great video, thanks again for your thoughts and great video
Ruger should hire you, seeing as nobody at Ruger knows how to design a reliable mag.
Thanks for taking the time to make this video. It's very helpful. Great job.
Good explanation of the problem and repair, thank you.
The only fix I've found is that the back of the feed ramp has a taper to it unlike the 10 rotary mag that has to be filed flatter and the 4 mags I have work perfectly after that mod. Check it out and compare it to the 10rd rotary and you'll see what I mean. The 10rd is flat on the back of the up coming feed and the 25rd has a taper. I filed them down semi flat and have no more problems.
is there a video to this problem or pictures?
You had a soldering iron right there. Just stipple that bar area. And it would have filled the gap without the glue. I have done this with the internal of an AR stock to take slop out. Prevent rattling. If it too tight just sand a little until fits to your liking. And nothing in between to come off. Or jam.
All great, but I'd suggest trying something like - J-B Weld 8267 SteelStik Steel Reinforced Epoxy Putty Stick (J-B WELD STEELSTIK: A hand mixable two part epoxy putty stick that is steel reinforced & non-rusting to quickly repair or rebuild anything made of metal).
the primary ejector is on the magazine on the 10/22. that fucked up angle can eject a cartridge too soon and end up with a stove pipe. ive seen it demonstrated
I've seen that too, but with my brand new 10/22 I never had that particular problem. My problem is exactly what he's talking about here. Lead nose bullet feeds in at too sharp of an angle and jams the nose right up on the edge of the feed. And yeah, I was pretty pissed off at Ruger when I found this issue. I paid a lot of money for several defective magazines.
Great video. Appreciate your attention to detail. Your English is just fine. Thanks!
I’m not sure but I believe Ruger did fix the issues with this mag. I bought a new one earlier this year it is very tight and has had no malfunction issues so far after shooting a 1000 rounds or so at steel challenge matches. I’ll fix my other, older mag, using the tips here.
Jim D just bought mine today and it doesn’t feed the bullet. My 10 round loads flawlessly. It doesn’t wiggle like all the ones I have been seeing on RUclips though.
This has been an issue since they started making these mags, I have a BX25x2 magazine the doubled version, it fits just as poorly as the regular BX25 mags. Shame on you Ruger is right, you would think that they'd have corrected the issue by now and recalled the old mags that don't fit properly and replace them with new improved models. Terrible waste of money for me because the BX25X2 isn't cheap..think I paid around 50 bucks for it so I'm a bit upset that it does not function like the standard 10rd mags do....how the hell did they get the measurement so off on the BX mags when they already had the 10rd mags to go off of...sheesh...step it up Ruger, you're slacking. I now have 3 ruger different rugers that all have slight issues like this as well...malfunction one way or another or have imperfections you wouldn't expect from such well known and supposedly respected producers of such products.
Damn good video, very clever solution! I've got a Ruger precision rimfire that takes the same mags. Came with 3- 15-round magazines. They all have the same problem. The slightest bit of pressure on the magazine will cause a hang up. I've got some JB quick, some masking tape, and a Dremel. I know what I'll be doing with my time later, thanks!
Your English is fine. Good material description. Excellent demonstration. Thanks. A person could male the lumps less high to make fitment faster.
Thanks for the vid and by the way your English is superb
Never ever had a issue with bx mags. I own twenty of them and two 10-22 rifles. They perform great.
you are lucky
@@lonnieoglesby1105 I own 6 of them and none of them work correctly. There are two feed problems: internal jamming and failure to align.
Thank you so much for the info. I will try it before the next time I go to the range. This makes so much more sense than the 22cal. spent cartridge follower fix on youtube.
@Al Chisare You are talking about Two separate problems. One is the wiggly mag that causes jams and failure to feed when the mag is angled wrong. The other is the follower inside the mag gets stuck and won’t feed the rounds up. This only fixes the wiggle in the mag.
I have two 10/22s. One runs perfectly with both Ruger BX25s and Butler Creek 25 round mags. The other won’t run with the Ruger mags and also with the newer Butler Creeks. It never has problems with the older Butler Creeks. I’m going to try this on a couple mags to see if it solves my problems with that rifle. It would be nice if all the mags ran in both guns!
Mine only has an issue with the first one or 2 rounds out of the bx25 mag when i use hollowpoints. If i only load 20 rounds its fine. I can load all 25 rds without issue with round nose bullets both plated or lead either one.
I agree. It is the ammunition. Fully loaded mag can have a feed issue for the first round since the mag spring is fully stretched to max force. I learned to load the mag with rifle oil on my hands after cleaning the gun and oiling it. Seems the oily hands lubricate the rounds as one inserts them into the mag and makes the round slip better into the barrel.
Thank you , this is much better than many other attempts at correcting the magazine issue. I will also try this on the non-ruger magazine .
A couple of strips of duct tape fixed mine.
After a little time you just have to re do it
@@mikeguy9668 ....not really, I gorilla glue black electrical tape to both sides of the inserted part of the mag, I add another layer until it's tight, I don't mind a little yank at first, then they wear in to fit perfect...jmo
Thank you so much! Whatta clever fix, I will try this one!!! Are there any tuning tricks for the BX-25 internals?
A 22 shell inside between the follower and the bushing the spring wraps around. Also theres a different bushing someone sells for the mags to replace it.
Thanks, tight can be too tight, the mag should fall out of the well when ejected so it looks like some testing needs to be done. Oh Boy! I'm heading to the range!
Can also use a couple layers of duct tape around that area to stabilize it while the mag is seated.
Nice job, my 25 rd mag already does pretty good but this would clearly help. However I have a 110 rd drum I believe I'll try this on because it struggles more than the mag also the upgrade bolts help as well.
I use an off brand BX25 style mags and they work perfect for over 3 years and many thousands of rounds. If you buy the off brand ones just make sure they have the steel feed lips
What brand? I think I bought some Butler Creek that had steel lips years ago.
Very helpful, your english by the way is perfectly fine!
Great idea and I'd really like to see how well this lasts over time and many times of using the mags.
Great video! I thunk I'm going to try this on one of mine and see how it goes. It seemed like the fit was really tight, maybe too tight. Maybe one or 2 light passes with a fine file would leave it snug but not too snug.
Buy a ProMag like I did ! Its perfect for not only 10 rounds, but also 15 & 25 rounds meanwhile its cheaper than Ruger .... !
Here in the U.S. we have people coming from all around the world, not all can speak perfect English ! Like a guy from the U.K. come to the U.S., the way he speaks is different from local American ! We can well understand you English .... its nothing to be sorry or shy, you just present yourself ! 👍✌
They make little round and square pads of all kinds that are extremely sticky on one side, rubber/vinyl or felt on the other.
Look in the 3M tape area of your local hardware store of choice.
I have an SR .22 Ruger rifle and I use the BX-25 MAG so far I have not had any problems but this look like a good idea
Thank you very much Bartosz.
I bought a ruger bx trigger group and it fixed this problem for me, I can’t say if it will work for you.
When I use these mags they feed fine I just get failure to eject and stove piping. Thanks I'll try this, I'm also going to dremel file out the action in front of the bolt, and then polish, giving the spent casing more room to eject. I could understand you just fine. Thanks
I HAVE THE HCMAGS HC3R(HIGH CAPACITY RAPID RIFLE RELOAD) THEY FIT TIGHT & WORK PERFECT EVERY TIME.
I've never had any feeding issue except for running out of bullets.
I have 4 and all work well.....some ammo is very bad like winchester super x in the bulk has very inconsistent hollow point holes and bullet heads on them so ammo for auto-loading 22 is paramount.
My new BX-25's don't wobble like that and I still get 4/5 misfeeds per mags and I've tried every kind of ammo under the sun.
Yup. Same problem here. I got a two-pack of them and one seems to run great but the other was jamming the round cocked up and all that. Very disappointed in Ruger for putting this out there in this condition. Its ridiculous.
Good job with the English. Good creative fix,Thanks.
great video man. amazing work 👍
Thanks Bartosz, very well presented!
Very clever. Great video.
This is a very good video.Quite an easy fix.Good job and thank you very much.
Funny I don't have a problem with my older model 10/22 and 25 bx mag but I do with my newer 10/22. I noticed that if I put pressure on the mag bottom with the new 10/22 and 25 bx mag that it functioned flawlessly. If I didn't it would shave rounds.
Yeah, my old Ruger from the late 1990s ran almost flawless and was much higher quality than the one I bought around 2008 as a replacement since my other went missing.