Thanks for a very informative video. Like the 10th shot hole, what a simple but great idea. Appreciate that you showed some of the difficulties that you can get into. At 73 I am an old beginner and really benefit from the information you share.
Thank you sir!! You have made my 10/22 even better than it was! That is saying alot. I am running 10 round rotary mags with the tri gator setup, holding 3 10 rd together. Being able to just look at the hole to tell if a mag is full is AWESOME!
Thanks for the instructions. I especially liked that you ran into problems and you continued to record. That way we know what to do when things don't completely go as planned.
Thank you for the video. It must have been beginners luck, because I got that darn thing on the first try. I doubt I'll have that much luck next time. Much easier to load with this spring tension (once around, plus two flats). Thank you again!
Great video and very informative. Wondering if you ever tried a Ultrasonic cleaner? I have been amazed at how good that thing cleans things. Also I have had to get burrs off of holes and if you use another drill bit that is 2 or 3 sizes bigger than the hole you drilled and in plastic I would just spin it by hand and chamfer that edge with it. I used a 13/64 to chamfer a 1/8" hole. I have also found that forceps work really well, instead of needle nose, for manipulating parts. Just tried it spinning the nut. I started the bolt about 2 turns. Let it free wheel and grabbed the nut nipple with the forceps. Spun it around 8 flats and then pushed it in without having my clubby fingers in the way, it was real easy to line up the nut.
One more thing I found out. The old mags, which I had one, use a dime to tighten the bolt. The nut tip is also tapered and the forceps slip off and wont work. I took the bolt out and screwed in a brass screw, it was either 8 or 10 -32 x 1.5", it can be longer if you want. I assembled the feed drum and housing, screwed in the brass screw and bottomed it out so it couldnt turn, then used the forceps to turn the screw while not letting the nut go to far away from the housing. When my mark came to 6 o'clock I pushed the nut in, While holding the whole assembly tight I unscrewed the brass screw and inserted the real screw and screwed it in. That brass screw would probably work on either style magazine. The main thing is you can grab it with the forceps and go your 8 flats pretty easy.
After watching this all the way through, I decided it was much less trouble to just buy more new mags instead of that headache!😀 I spent over 30 years as an Optician working with small screws, etc and won't put up with the problems you went through here!
Very helpful. I have a Ruger 10/22 I inherited from my Dad about 40 years ago. I think he bought it in the early 70's while I was away in the service. As far as I know it has the only mag that came with it. I was shooting it recently and had a few failures to reload so I took the mag apart to clean it up but lost patience trying to reassemble it, getting the spring in the right position. Next trip to town I picked up a package of 3 new Ruger mags, so now I will have 4, thank you.
The 10th round hole in the back of the mag was worth the 30 minutes. The rotary mag on the 10/22 is the Cat's Meow as it sits flush to the bottom of the stock; it was the deciding factor of my first .22 rifle purchase 38 years ago. With all the changes since then with the 10/22 platform, the 10 round rotary mag was one of Bill Ruger's finest innovations. It still needs the hole though...
Hi James, I ‘m happy I watched your video. I shot steel challlenge in Open and Osr for many years and now going to PCCO and RFRO . Out of 7 factory ruger magazines I used in the past year, one gave me a headache. I tought it was the ammo, the rifle itself, until I found that over winded mag ! When I took it apart, it flew off in the garage…there was so much tension on it ! I put it back together with 8 flats and now it works fine. I took all the other ones apart, and some were looser, but still worked fine. All this happened before I watched your video but I was fun watching when Not everything is going like it is supposed to go !! 😜 Keep up the good work !
Thanks for the detailed instructions, I especially appreciated the 10th round indicator hole. I thought I was going to have to purchase the Tandemkross kit but I made it through all 10 of my mags.
Here's a reassembly tip: -Wrap some masking tape around the mag to hold the feed lips in position so you don't have to worry about the follower pushing it off the main body (This will allow you to use the back plate to rotate the nut). -Place the nut +2 flats tight into the back plate. -While holding the nut in position, lift the back plate off the main body just enough so that you can rotate it around once and re-seat it into position and tighten the bolt. A lot less fiddly; took me less than a minute to reassemble.
it is pretty easy honestly, my first time I did it with no video and i was able to get it back together, 2nd time I did it I was way more proficient at it, the metal piece that goes on the top was the only part that stumped me for a bit.
Awesome video sir! Great info on the winding, too! Not many covering that. A little extra tidbit for others: if you get the factory "one shot" mag, it's super easy to convert it to a 10 shot mag by slicing off the little plastic nub inside that back plate, then re-winding the spring and putting it back together. Thank you for putting this out there!
I saw that the 15 & 25 round heads are actually smaller in dimension compared to the 10 rounders. A YT'er showed how one can wrap tape on the lower back and lower sides, but not the front, to get the mags to sit as far forward as possible, thus eliminating malfunctions.
I like the idea of the 10th shot hole (probably use sandpaper or a jewelers file to remove any burrs) and I think I'll try rotating the nut with a 3/8" crows foot and save my fingers. 8 flats with a marker---brilliant.
the metal top part of the mag there are some areas you can grind down just BARELY with a dremel (only do this if you have precise handywork, the work needs to be smooth and clean) theres a few spots where the rim part of the shell can sometimes get hung up
Thanks for this video. It's very helpful. Please note Ruger indicates two full turns (12 stops) vs. eight stops. Will try eight and adjust if needed. Again, thanks.
I just got a used Collectors Series with one rotary magazine. It was jamming and not pushing up the last round or two. I squeezed some bore venom into it and then sprayed a lot of mass airflow sensor cleaner in it and let it dry. Still it wasn't good. So much for my easy fix. So I used a hex bit in a drill to take it apart. I was surprised when I had to turn up the choke to break the screw loose. I got it apart and looked at all the parts. They were all clean as could be and undamaged. So I put it back together and tightened the screw much less than it was before. I had to put a couple extra "flats" on the spring, and it is still not as tensioned as it was. But it delivers every round to the chamber.
I got a question for you I cleaned my ruger 10/22 and new magazines sometimes it won’t push the round in like it’s hung up and stops the bolt? Any suggestions
If you have 2-3 rounds in the mag does it jam up? Does it do it with a fully loaded mag? To much spring tension on the follower can cause the bolt to stop from fully stripping a round out of the mag.
Please don't take this in a bad way but I can count to ten as can 99.9% of people. And especially as CCI tubs have ammo in rows of 5 I will know when I have a full magazine. So why would I want to risk ruining the magazine just to see something I already know? Or is this just for fun? I'm after the answer from the video maker Yes the strip is informative for those who don't know. But the pilot hole seems to be pointless.
@freddybeem2322 That would be my laptop, it is so I can make sure the image you are seeing is giving you the detail needed and is not blurry or shaded.
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Thanks for a very informative video. Like the 10th shot hole, what a simple but great idea. Appreciate that you showed some of the difficulties that you can get into. At 73 I am an old beginner and really benefit from the information you share.
Thank you sir!! You have made my 10/22 even better than it was! That is saying alot. I am running 10 round rotary mags with the tri gator setup, holding 3 10 rd together. Being able to just look at the hole to tell if a mag is full is AWESOME!
Thanks for the instructions. I especially liked that you ran into problems and you continued to record. That way we know what to do when things don't completely go as planned.
Thank you for the video. It must have been beginners luck, because I got that darn thing on the first try. I doubt I'll have that much luck next time. Much easier to load with this spring tension (once around, plus two flats). Thank you again!
Great video and very informative. Wondering if you ever tried a Ultrasonic cleaner? I have been amazed at how good that thing cleans things. Also I have had to get burrs off of holes and if you use another drill bit that is 2 or 3 sizes bigger than the hole you drilled and in plastic I would just spin it by hand and chamfer that edge with it. I used a 13/64 to chamfer a 1/8" hole. I have also found that forceps work really well, instead of needle nose, for manipulating parts. Just tried it spinning the nut. I started the bolt about 2 turns. Let it free wheel and grabbed the nut nipple with the forceps. Spun it around 8 flats and then pushed it in without having my clubby fingers in the way, it was real easy to line up the nut.
I have one but have not used it on mags.
One more thing I found out. The old mags, which I had one, use a dime to tighten the bolt. The nut tip is also tapered and the forceps slip off and wont work. I took the bolt out and screwed in a brass screw, it was either 8 or 10 -32 x 1.5", it can be longer if you want. I assembled the feed drum and housing, screwed in the brass screw and bottomed it out so it couldnt turn, then used the forceps to turn the screw while not letting the nut go to far away from the housing. When my mark came to 6 o'clock I pushed the nut in, While holding the whole assembly tight I unscrewed the brass screw and inserted the real screw and screwed it in. That brass screw would probably work on either style magazine. The main thing is you can grab it with the forceps and go your 8 flats pretty easy.
@@jameslaney2097 I took mine apart like you did yours. Im going to try it the next time.
After watching this all the way through, I decided it was much less trouble to just buy more new mags instead of that headache!😀 I spent over 30 years as an Optician working with small screws, etc and won't put up with the problems you went through here!
honestly, insanely easy compared to other magazine setups
Very helpful. I have a Ruger 10/22 I inherited from my Dad about 40 years ago. I think he bought it in the early 70's while I was away in the service. As far as I know it has the only mag that came with it. I was shooting it recently and had a few failures to reload so I took the mag apart to clean it up but lost patience trying to reassemble it, getting the spring in the right position. Next trip to town I picked up a package of 3 new Ruger mags, so now I will have 4, thank you.
The 10th round hole in the back of the mag was worth the 30 minutes. The rotary mag on the 10/22 is the Cat's Meow as it sits flush to the bottom of the stock; it was the deciding factor of my first .22 rifle purchase 38 years ago. With all the changes since then with the 10/22 platform, the 10 round rotary mag was one of Bill Ruger's finest innovations. It still needs the hole though...
Hi James, I ‘m happy I watched your video. I shot steel challlenge in Open and Osr for many years and now going to PCCO and RFRO . Out of 7 factory ruger magazines I used in the past year, one gave me a headache. I tought it was the ammo, the rifle itself, until I found that over winded mag ! When I took it apart, it flew off in the garage…there was so much tension on it ! I put it back together with 8 flats and now it works fine. I took all the other ones apart, and some were looser, but still worked fine. All this happened before I watched your video but I was fun watching when Not everything is going like it is supposed to go !! 😜
Keep up the good work !
Thanks for the detailed instructions, I especially appreciated the 10th round indicator hole. I thought I was going to have to purchase the Tandemkross kit but I made it through all 10 of my mags.
I'm glad it helped. Thanks for watching.
I run 10/22 mags in my RPR. I gave away the stick mag that came with the rifle. 100% reliable.
Here's a reassembly tip:
-Wrap some masking tape around the mag to hold the feed lips in position so you don't have to worry about the follower pushing it off the main body (This will allow you to use the back plate to rotate the nut).
-Place the nut +2 flats tight into the back plate.
-While holding the nut in position, lift the back plate off the main body just enough so that you can rotate it around once and re-seat it into position and tighten the bolt.
A lot less fiddly; took me less than a minute to reassemble.
Not gonna lie um glad you made this because I took it apart but could not get it back together
it is pretty easy honestly, my first time I did it with no video and i was able to get it back together, 2nd time I did it I was way more proficient at it, the metal piece that goes on the top was the only part that stumped me for a bit.
Awesome video sir! Great info on the winding, too! Not many covering that. A little extra tidbit for others: if you get the factory "one shot" mag, it's super easy to convert it to a 10 shot mag by slicing off the little plastic nub inside that back plate, then re-winding the spring and putting it back together. Thank you for putting this out there!
Thanks for watching and posting the tip!
Great video. I was smiling thinking..”oh, I’ve done that.”
I’ve got 10 mags to clean this week.😄
I saw that the 15 & 25 round heads are actually smaller in dimension compared to the 10 rounders. A YT'er showed how one can wrap tape on the lower back and lower sides, but not the front, to get the mags to sit as far forward as possible, thus eliminating malfunctions.
Great real world video. Thanks
I like the idea of the 10th shot hole (probably use sandpaper or a jewelers file to remove any burrs) and I think I'll try rotating the nut with a 3/8" crows foot and save my fingers. 8 flats with a marker---brilliant.
the metal top part of the mag there are some areas you can grind down just BARELY with a dremel (only do this if you have precise handywork, the work needs to be smooth and clean)
theres a few spots where the rim part of the shell can sometimes get hung up
I use the clear magazines you can count your rounds leftover. Thx for your advice!
Great Video Thanks 😊 ..The hole is a great idea..😮 how do you know where to drill it ..flats are from zero 0⃣ tension.?
Definitely the position of the tongue is trick to getting the spring in the hole!😁
Thanks for this video. It's very helpful. Please note Ruger indicates two full turns (12 stops) vs. eight stops. Will try eight and adjust if needed. Again, thanks.
Great bit of advice, thanks from Ireland
Thanks for posting, super cool people in Ireland are seeing this!!
Cool. I finished watching and you answered all my questions 😂
Thank you. Good video.
Looks tedious but doable. I think I'll pick up the TK tool, which might make it easier.
I just got a used Collectors Series with one rotary magazine.
It was jamming and not pushing up the last round or two. I squeezed some bore venom into it and then sprayed a lot of mass airflow sensor cleaner in it and let it dry. Still it wasn't good. So much for my easy fix.
So I used a hex bit in a drill to take it apart.
I was surprised when I had to turn up the choke to break the screw loose. I got it apart and looked at all the parts. They were all clean as could be and undamaged. So I put it back together and tightened the screw much less than it was before. I had to put a couple extra "flats" on the spring, and it is still not as tensioned as it was. But it delivers every round to the chamber.
Thank you for great video buddy
Thanks for a quality upload! Very informative i enjoyed it a lot.
Man you have patience!
Is it possible to drill the hole without disassembling the unit
Hey JL, thanks for posting this. Great info! Will be doing this before next SC. You don't smooth down the lips at all?
I have tested it to see if it helps but I don't think it was worth the effort.
Very helpful !
@jameslaney2097 Is it possible to make a left handed magazine into a right handed magazine?
Is the hole the spring hooks to on front of mag on the base or the round part
It is on the hex nut.
@@jameslaney2097 thanks
I got a question for you I cleaned my ruger 10/22 and new magazines sometimes it won’t push the round in like it’s hung up and stops the bolt? Any suggestions
Does the bolt get stopped without a magazine?
@@jameslaney2097 nope
Sounds like you have to much spring tension.
@@jameslaney2097 to much spring tension on magazines themselves?
If you have 2-3 rounds in the mag does it jam up? Does it do it with a fully loaded mag? To much spring tension on the follower can cause the bolt to stop from fully stripping a round out of the mag.
Thank you
Are the magazines for the 10/22 and the 77/22 interchangeable?
Yes they are interchangeable.
Appreciated!
KnifeMaker
Please don't take this in a bad way but I can count to ten as can 99.9% of people.
And especially as CCI tubs have ammo in rows of 5 I will know when I have a full magazine.
So why would I want to risk ruining the magazine just to see something I already know?
Or is this just for fun?
I'm after the answer from the video maker
Yes the strip is informative for those who don't know. But the pilot hole seems to be pointless.
Too long winded , but some people like that ,me just get to the point and move on with life !🇬🇧🏴
Don’t disassemble these rotary mags they’re a massive pain in the 🫏. 20 bucks buy a new one
What do you keep looking at , very distracting. Content good
@freddybeem2322 That would be my laptop, it is so I can make sure the image you are seeing is giving you the detail needed and is not blurry or shaded.
I subbed, but your sub number didn't increase.