CryoGrip Frostbite vs. SuperTack | Does It Live Up To The Hype?
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- Опубликовано: 10 фев 2025
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BiQu Cryogrip Pro Frostbite: amzn.to/4j3GYFI
Bambu Lab SuperTack: us.store.bambu...
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🕑 CHAPTERS
00:00 Intro
00:37 Contenders
02:01 Pisa Tower Test
03:01 Quatitative Adhesion Tests
07:14 Surface Finish
08:02 Durability
08:20 Result Discussion
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Heads up, but last night my P1P didn't see the Glacier plate while doing auto bed level check and ran and skidded over the plate with a deep mark that makes it junk now. I had heard a few complaints about this and now I've seen it first hand. Apparently the detector might not see the plate and jam down into it.
That's unfortunate to hear! But thanks for letting me know about this issue.
You might want to hit up Biqu and see what they say, they do market that surface layer as being relatively tough.
@@kylek29 I can use the back side for now and hope that doesn't happen again...mmm...the new plate has the deep gouge now...ouch..
I've recently got my plate from Ali express. Hope it doesn't do that.
There is also a grey Biqu Cryogrip. For me that one handles large, warp-prone PLA prints much better then both frostbite plates.
Interesting, I might include that one next time.
I would love to see some tests with large gridfinity bins, they are warp hell!
Yes, I can try to include it in the next build plate video!
@ great, thanks so much! I think it will set you apart from almost all other plate videos too as they all tend to only test small objects in terms of build plate coverage and total material.
@@3DFarmers Thank you, I stumbled onto your video after looking for solutions to prevent warp while retaining surface finish for large flat objects. Looking forward to the update video!
I would say a plate that lets go easier when you flex it is a plus. I don't want to struggle with getting builds off the printer. If the printer has a heat bed that causes it to flex, the problem is the printer :)
In this case the textured PEI is your best bet.
What plate did you choose for the biqu? Cool? Did you try a few and found one better than the other? (If you set same temperature, just the z offset would be different )
I think all your answers are in the video ;)
@@3DFarmers sorry I think I worded that badly, I meant in the slicer because there’s no option for the biqu plates so you have to choose a Bambu one you think is appropriate. I think I found the cool best for frostbite but the z offset might be a bit too close?
@@Simon-L-B Ah now I understand your question. So for the Biqu I have used the SuperTack settings as well with adjusted temperature to 35C. However, if you want the first layer to be closer to the plate, then you can chose the Textured PEI plate in the settings and reduce the temperature manually. This will give you a lower z.
@ thanks 😄
From my experience the SuperTack is the worst one in durability, the Smooth plate is better but that wasn't tested. And the SuperTack requires you to reduce the flow ratio on the first layer to .8 so there's no warping. A lot of people are having this issue, which you can only fix by enabling Developer Mode on Bambu Studio and setting it to .8 under quality > advanced.
Interesting input, we haven't printed many big parts yet, but I will keep that in mind.
You should've included the glacier :'( I really need to know the surface finish comparaison between super tack and Glacier I need the matest finish possible on my prints first layer with a bit of texture and I don' t know wich one is the best for it.
The SuperTack has the mattest finish, but the Glacier is not much off.
@3DFarmers OK thank you very much, does the super tack has as much texture as the glacier or is it even?
@@sinansahin6423 No there is more texture on the SuperTack compared to the Glacier.
Why is it a short?!
What do you mean?
@@3DFarmersit must have been a bug. Right now its "normal". Today I've launched my yt on phone, and it video was on and shown as short.
What about the difference in warping for large prints?
We didn't do a quantitative measurement, but if we take the lateral adhesion test results, the Frostbite should come on top compared to the SuperTack. But again, if you run the SuperTack at 45C they should be comparable.
I’ve found the supertack to be better for large warp prone prints
Can you use the Frostbite or SuperTack with no heat at all?
Yes, we tested also at 25C and it works great for normal prints.
I see no reason to compare the Cool Plate as it is, sadly, discontinued... What a shame.
The cool plate was included in the test to see if the SuperTack is a worthy successor.