MOMENTS AGO BLACKMAGIC JUST ANNOUNCED THEY LOWERED THE PRICE OF THE URSA 12K TO $5,995. That is absolute insanity and instantly makes it 40% more affordable and even more competitive.
I tend to shoot 12K 5:1 compression. Yes, you definitely need fast, high end, expensive CFAST cards. I found buying cards in tandem (identical cards) and writing to both CFAST cards at the same time avoids the skipped frames. Yep, there is a setting where you can tell it to divide up the task of writing to disk. For a clip, you will get two files - *.braw and *.braw2. Half the frames are written to one card to the *.braw files, and the other are written to the other card to the *.braw2 file.
Great video! Been wanting to get my hands on a 12k as well and compare it to my URSA G2. How would you say the rolling shutter is on this at the 12k? Or is it a lot like the 6k pro where that rolling shutter can be an issue when filming at that 6k resolution?
Love the sensor on this camera and the image, but with the price drop I think it's best to wait until after NAB in October to see what Blackmagic reveals
Most amazing to me was that it balances on that gimbal! As an Ursa Mini Pro G1 owner, this is the holy grail and I shall be selling my Ronin s2 ASAP and buying that gimbal of his. Otherwise, I still don’t really get this camera unless you want 12K for some reason. The G2 offers more dynamic range and faster frame rates at 4.6K, which I find is résolution enough. It’s also surprisingly good in low light, though it’s no Sony Fx6.
One reason would be anamorphic shooting. I have a G1 as well, and while I love the images from my spherical glass, it only shoots in 3k anamorphic, under-utilizing the sensor pretty badly in the process. The 12k has a 6k anamorphic option that uses most of the sensor.
The problem for me with this camera is you can't record ProRes even at 4k, I think that excludes it from a lot of productions especially if your handing off rushes. Also the 4" screen on the new URSA's is garbage. That being said the colours out of the sensor are amazing and for the price point its incredible. Great review bud thanks very much.
Yup, that takes me out. I never use raw cuz i have to re-use footage a lot and having raw files makes it more complicate to find them back and make new compilations. Im going to upgrade to the ursa mini pro g2 soon.
Blackmagic Ursa G2 and couple 6K's owner here,looking the 12K after the unbelievable price drop and when i saw your face holding a 12K and 30 mins of video i said...And this is how i spend my next 30 mins of my life :D . I Also just realised that i'm not subscribed afetr watching so many videos. Oups,sorry. Gonna hit it now
Such an amazing camera, especially for the price! I only wish they'd have a way to integrate the EVF and side handle without having cables dangling about.
Hey Michael! Thanks for the great review! Lots of great points! I'm curious - now that Blackmagic has dropped the price -$4000 to only $5995, would you consider buying it now? It seems like amazing value at $10k, but stupidly insane value at $6k!!
Definitely a fantastic price point! The only thing that would make me hold off is usually a major price drop like this hints at a launch of something new. With NAB around the corner next month I’m waiting to see what they may come out with! Also RED is teasing a new camera on their IG for tomorrow but obviously that is most likely going to be $20K+ 😂
THIS THE BEST VIDEO I WATCHED ABOUT THE URSA MINI PRO 12K I REALLY WANT TO OWN ONE, THANKS A LOT FOR THESE URSA MINI FOOTAGES, I WANT TO EXPERIENCE EDITING URSA FOOTAGES BEFORE GETTING ONE THANKS A LOT. SUBSCRIBED NOW
Great review. I'm loving the idea of one of these. Personally I doubt I'd ever film in 12k - it's more 8k and below for 4K delivery, but with the option of recropping and for all that extra detail. The frame rates (and always using the full sensor - except for a few exceptions) and image are incredible. Shame about the lack of dual ISO - probably the biggest drawback. Glad you like the form factor. I'd like to think I would but it's a big step up (also needs less rigging than my current shooter so is a much tidier unit)... Thanks for the sample clips. I'll check them out in resolve and compare them to my P4K (which would be the companion camera to this - for low light, b-cam and incognito/travel)...
Yeah I agree, even for most of us who wouldnt shoot 12K on a daily basis the other frame rate options at higher resolutions all while still getting 12bit RAW is amazing. Hoping the next gen has dual native ISO and a couple other improvements.
Lovely camera. I wonder if you can fit a monitor and mic on top but still use the gimbal? It seemed like you had only 2 pounds of margin. A monitor, arms, and mic might be under 2 pounds?
I totally get that bit about the ND filter getting into the shot. Same on the UMP G1. I was covering a pre-dawn raid by some activists blocking a gas power plant. It was 18ºF, so I was wearing thick gloves. After the sun rose, there were some shots with a mysterious angular thing in the shot. I thought I broke the camera, then figured out is was the ND filter. Luckily, I lost nothing by cropping and selecting alternate takes. But I learned my lesson and that has never happened since.
Wow see that’s a perfect example of you being focused on so many aspects of the job the last thing you should have to worry about is “is the ND filter blocking my sensor?” Haha glad it was able to be worked out!
Well i gonna buy my first ever camera in coming days and I don’t know which camera would be good for youtube like sony or maybe i should go for bmpc camera could you please tell me ??
13:30 just so you know the pixel size has been proven a myth. When testing with a 20mp full frame camera against a 42mp full frame camera, the exposure and dynamic range were exactly the same. There’s a few videos on it but I think it might’ve been Tony Northrup that did a pretty good one. It’s not about pixel size, but about sensor size. Super 35 sensors won’t have less dynamic range just because they’re higher resolution It’s known that full frame tends to have higher dynamic range, but it’s not due to large pixels, and larger pixels don’t change exposure.
Actually all of the sample footage from sets was handheld. I only did that gimbal test right before I had to send back the camera. Crazy good! But yeah all of the shots were either tripod or handheld for the spots.
I want this camera so bad! I like how you said that you can't really say when something is overkill, bc you're right. Right now I have the gen 1 ursa mini and I love it, it's just missing the extra awesome features. So if anyone wants to sponsor me XD
Hello! I have a question about a camera monitor. I have the URSA MINI Pro 12K and I wanted to use the Blackmagic Video Assist 12G as a camera monitor. But when I recorded BRAW I didn´t have a signal on the screen of the Video Assist 12G. Is it possible to record the BRAW video and watch the live video at the same time on the screen? I´m not sure if the SDI output on the URSA Mini Pro supports the BRAW....
I balanced ursa G2 , holly land wireless transmitter , tilta M follow focus , sigma 18-35 T2 cine lens on the zhiyun crane 3s. Battery use 4 pin DC cable to the v-mount plate of the DF Thanos pro 2.
Hey just noticed the price was lowered to 5999.99 crazy hey ? Thinking about picking one up. I am curious oh noise and how much more noise over the 6K pro ???? Thanks again as a fellow content creator ?
Check out Matteo bertolli channel. He just did a grade in DaVinci with this camera. Basically he’s saying that the older style cameras have more dynamic range allocated to the shadows than the pocket 6k sensor with dual native iso. So if you under expose you can bring it back in post but he does mention noise as well but says it’s not too bad
Just a few notes on why the camera doesn't, actually, physically work. (Hi I'm Gabs, I'm an Imaging Technician and work alongside several optical engineers - something that plays a very important part in the argument). Yes hypothetically due to a crazy interpolation scheme (interpolation is part of the debayering process when a camera assumes RGB channel values for its red, green, blue and in this case white photo sites.) Which is where a sheer number of aberrations do form (aliasing issues) yes it theoretically does give an 12k output.... however it's so typical of our industry to view one figure and put everything else aside. If you can sample at 12k it does not mean your capturing 12k fidelity (227.27 lpmm!!!!). People argue digital imaging sensors are in there infancy, yes one could make that point. However another as important aspect of capture that isn't in its infancy is optics. Anyways explanations bellow. If you read it, have fun. I recently have been studying the 12k’s relatively tiny photo sites (2.2 micrometers). I have some findings that I am unsure are correct and was wondering if anyone more experienced in this field could assist. Now my question is, with the UMP12k’s photo sites being so small. Does it make it physically impossible for light to enter them without overlapping to a certain extent making the famed resolution redundant. Allow me to elaborate. One may question this by saying the actual wavelength of light, for example, green is around 500nm (nano-metres). This is far far smaller than that of the 2.2 micrometer photo sites. However the actual part of light we capture the ‘Airy Disk’ is substantially larger than that of the wavelength. An airy disk is formed when light passes through the aperture/iris of the lens. As you stop down (due to diffraction) the airy disk get’s larger. A crude example of this would be water coming out of a hose. As you put more pressure onto the end of the hose making the exit smaller the spray of water gets larger. It is important to note an Airy Disk does not have a sharp cut-off. It has a bright central region, with additional rings around it. The bright central region is measured at about a 2.44 ratio. To calculate the size of an airy disk one must times the ratio 2.44 x f-stop x nm of light. So using this equation far red (700nm) at F2.0 (700 x 2.0 x 2.44 = 3416nm). Now 3.4um (micro-metres) is substantially smaller than say a 7.2um (if I remember correctly) photo site of a UMP4.6k and smaller than the 8.25um photo site of an Alexa. However 3.4um is larger than a 2.2um photo site of the UMP12k. If we did the equation again at the other end of the spectrum where the wavelength of light is significantly smaller it would be another story. However for the size of this post we shall move on. (I will quickly note that resolution is often calculated at 550nm (Green) but for proving my point I’ll remain in far red as I commonly use tungsten fixtures, I will note as well I am unsure if the cameras spectral response curve is indeed that sensitive to this part of the spectrum, but again, hypothetical). Now by all means airy disk’s being larger than the photo site of a camera is not uncommon say if we did the same equation above at F5.6. We then obtain an airy disk which is 9.5um. Larger than that of the Alexa. Now Airy Disks can overlap a bit without causing a major hit to resolution. This is where MTF takes stage. If you're interested it taking a deep dive into MTF please do so. I won’t put too much information here. However from a very basic perspective it looks at the overlapping of airy disks. Measured by putting black and white lines next to one another at different intervals. MTF (100) is when a solid black line is next to a white with no overlap. MTF (0) is where everything is a wash of grey. Making the airy disk similar to that of the photo site puts us at MTF (74) but resolution is often calculated at MTF (50) Now to be able to use MTF to show the point I’m making point we need to calculate the line pair per millimetre for a sensor. That is done by taking 1mm (1000um) / pixel pitch (2.2um) / 2 (line pair). The UMP12k would be 227.27 lp/mm and just for a comparison the Alexa is 60.61 lp/mm and the UMP4.6k is (I don’t remember the exact pixel pitch) around 70 put crudely. I shall copy and paste this math to save time "The actual MTF(50) ratio is 1.971. So you could think of it as multiplying the pixel pitch by that or multiplying the Airy Disk ratio by that, but the 1.971 is just another ratio that would be multiplied by everything. So, f-stop of MTF(50) = 1.971 * pixel size / Airy Disk / wavelength in nm For the Blackmagic 12K sensor at green 550nm, that puts MTF(50) at f3.2 and for the Alexa sensors that puts it at f12.1. At red 700nm light, the Blackmagic 12K would hit MTF(50) at f2.5 Alexa would at f9.5 At violet 400nm light, the Blackmagic 12K would hit MTF(50) at f4.4 and the Alexa would at f16.7” (Joshua Cadmium) Now to conclude. I want to emphasise here that this is with a PERFECT lens. Only limited by the diffraction limit! Even glass such as a Master/Supreme/Signature prime suffers from aberrations and their glass is by no means as transparent as air (attributes of a perfect lens). If I remember correctly a master prime just about gets MTF (74) at 70lp/mm. Even with a beautiful highly regarded piece of glass on a camera with such small photo sites it would surely give a considerable hit to resolution. Does this make the 12k feature of this camera redundant? Well, that is my question. Do let me know if I’m being a moron and miss understood my studies. I have not proof read this either, am in quite a rush but wanted to write this.
TLDR - No optical system (even one with elements as transparent as air with almost zero optical aberrations (note some of our best designed optical systems in our world (film) doesn't come near this note Master Primes at MTF74 at 70lp/mm (which I will add is perfect for the Alexa's photo site).
Now, another thing. One might ask 'Why is out resolving an optical system a bad thing?' - it's not. Your just going to suffer the serious consequences that come about with tiny, tiny photo sites (similar to that of your iPhones camera) photo sites. Small photo sites are much more easily saturated (when a photo site cannot decipher any further information) a smaller photo site is much less sensitive (note the smaller surface area) and with a lack of sensitivity from the photo site level your noise floor rises without a serious amount of internal analogue and digital noise mitigation (the last part being an assumption but that's my only theory on how each photo site giving such little voltage output would be able to be boosted without such discrepancy in gradient to others (noise)).
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Hy I am watching your video from Pakistan 🇵🇰 I want to buy a new camera in few days for videos and images as well but my main focus is cinematic videos can you please give me your good advice either I should buy mirrorless or DSLR . I am begginer so also I am having some budjet issues almost count under 500$. Please give me a better suggestion.
@@initialfocus 12K 17:9 DCI 24FPS Q0 is 1.2 Gigabyte (1.2GB/s) = 46 Minutes at 2TB. I love blackmagic 12K. Probably my first choice for Video production compared to those Little toy cameras.
I just plunked down for a second BM 12K. No, it is not a perfect camera. Low light lovers with dark indoor setups? Pass. Buy a FX9 or Varicam and spend a lot mo money. Those who light - the art of cinematography imo - YES, this camera can produce wonderful images, but imo it wants and needs proper exposure to shine. The sensor is amazing, but it can be noisy and moire can bite you. The body is HEAVY - but so are tiger tanks. It can drop frames, so this purchase I am going with Angelbird Pro 512s. I went with Prograde 512s on my first BM12K, and they do a fine job, but my advice is to test, test, test. Don't push your media to the redline. That extra bit of data is not worth dropped frame or dropping out of record - for me - and it will drop out if you go past what the media can sustain. BRAW rocks! As always, your mileage may vary - horses for courses.
I personally like big robust camera for youtube vs small lesser build quality cameras like the Sony zv10 which if you dailyvlog you're going to break it
I’m not the best resource for that as I don’t clog or use cameras with auto focus 😅 I’d check how my buddy JHawk’s channel. He’s got good content on that
UPDATE: The Sample clips that are linked in the description are now fixed. You should be able to download 10 clips! Apologies on the delay.
I'll never afford this, but I can apply your teachings to camera purchase decisions. Thanks bruh!
Did you use the lens in the description for these clips? The colors are phenomenal.
Hey everyone! Currently having issues uploading the sample RAW clips. I’ll have them up soon so you can play with them!
When did the urea 12K come out?
Thank you I am going to practice color grading the 12k footage
Okay can't wait ❤️
MOMENTS AGO BLACKMAGIC JUST ANNOUNCED THEY LOWERED THE PRICE OF THE URSA 12K TO $5,995. That is absolute insanity and instantly makes it 40% more affordable and even more competitive.
Yeah I just seen that😂 We just purchased a Ursa 4.6K G2 in May for that price. I'm really considering grabbing a 12K now!!!
Oh damn 😂 yeah the one downside to Blackmagic dropping their prices so often on their cameras is for us owners they destroy resale value so fast 😂
@@initialfocus they probably about to drop a full-frame 12K Ursa with a complete redesign for $10,000
I want 4k pocket for $50
Soon they will announce 20k I am excited
Balanced on a Gimbal is mindblowning. Time to get my coins together.
finally you change blurry super soft cool looks, i really like this new sharp and clear looks
I tend to shoot 12K 5:1 compression. Yes, you definitely need fast, high end, expensive CFAST cards. I found buying cards in tandem (identical cards) and writing to both CFAST cards at the same time avoids the skipped frames. Yep, there is a setting where you can tell it to divide up the task of writing to disk. For a clip, you will get two files - *.braw and *.braw2. Half the frames are written to one card to the *.braw files, and the other are written to the other card to the *.braw2 file.
Hi Michael. Thanks for providing the downloads for testing, that's very generous of you and very helpful. Cheers, Dave.
Thanks for the review! What gimbal is that? Also do you upload 12K directly to RUclips or do you downgrade it first?
i really love you're using of "gimbal" as a verb; the fact that it gimbal's is very exciting and badass :)
I wonder how many people will be upset that the screen doesn't flip forward for vlogging. LOL
😂😂😂
Would love to see someone try to walk and vlog with the 12K handheld hahaha
Sony enters the chat: Have another ZV why don't ya!
Mirrors Jerry, mirrors.
A lot of people make content in front of the camera as a shooter and talent. I have no idea why this meets so much resentment from film-snobs.
Great video! Been wanting to get my hands on a 12k as well and compare it to my URSA G2. How would you say the rolling shutter is on this at the 12k? Or is it a lot like the 6k pro where that rolling shutter can be an issue when filming at that 6k resolution?
Check out Cine-D, they do tests for rolling shutter. the Ursa 12k has very decent performance when shooting at 8k.
Love the sensor on this camera and the image, but with the price drop I think it's best to wait until after NAB in October to see what Blackmagic reveals
Most amazing to me was that it balances on that gimbal! As an Ursa Mini Pro G1 owner, this is the holy grail and I shall be selling my Ronin s2 ASAP and buying that gimbal of his. Otherwise, I still don’t really get this camera unless you want 12K for some reason. The G2 offers more dynamic range and faster frame rates at 4.6K, which I find is résolution enough. It’s also surprisingly good in low light, though it’s no Sony Fx6.
One reason would be anamorphic shooting. I have a G1 as well, and while I love the images from my spherical glass, it only shoots in 3k anamorphic, under-utilizing the sensor pretty badly in the process. The 12k has a 6k anamorphic option that uses most of the sensor.
What was the name of the gimble...Any chance to put a link up please. This is something im very interested in. Thank you for a good review.
The problem for me with this camera is you can't record ProRes even at 4k, I think that excludes it from a lot of productions especially if your handing off rushes. Also the 4" screen on the new URSA's is garbage. That being said the colours out of the sensor are amazing and for the price point its incredible. Great review bud thanks very much.
Yup, that takes me out. I never use raw cuz i have to re-use footage a lot and having raw files makes it more complicate to find them back and make new compilations.
Im going to upgrade to the ursa mini pro g2 soon.
Blackmagic Ursa G2 and couple 6K's owner here,looking the 12K after the unbelievable price drop and when i saw your face holding a 12K and 30 mins of video i said...And this is how i spend my next 30 mins of my life :D . I Also just realised that i'm not subscribed afetr watching so many videos. Oups,sorry. Gonna hit it now
Such an amazing camera, especially for the price!
I only wish they'd have a way to integrate the EVF and side handle without having cables dangling about.
Zeiss Outus lenses must look stunning with the 12k image
Hey Michael! Thanks for the great review! Lots of great points! I'm curious - now that Blackmagic has dropped the price -$4000 to only $5995, would you consider buying it now? It seems like amazing value at $10k, but stupidly insane value at $6k!!
Definitely a fantastic price point! The only thing that would make me hold off is usually a major price drop like this hints at a launch of something new. With NAB around the corner next month I’m waiting to see what they may come out with! Also RED is teasing a new camera on their IG for tomorrow but obviously that is most likely going to be $20K+ 😂
@@initialfocus Myabe But with a Zeiss CP3 prime lenses I'm pretty sure the URSA can hold it's own?
CONGRATS GREAT JOB!!! Would you please let me know your gimbal? Yes. I'll buy this camera.
Thanks! The gimbal is the Zhiyun Crane 3S Pro Package.
Amazing as always dude!
With the price drop, I really do think something amazing is coming soon. Good idea waiting for the next one to release.
I have a VAC plate with shoulder pad from Small Rig and it works great with this camera
THIS THE BEST VIDEO I WATCHED ABOUT THE URSA MINI PRO 12K I REALLY WANT TO OWN ONE, THANKS A LOT FOR THESE URSA MINI FOOTAGES, I WANT TO EXPERIENCE EDITING URSA FOOTAGES BEFORE GETTING ONE THANKS A LOT.
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Always a pleasure to watch your content. Very informative and fun. Keep up the good work. Thumbs up.
Great review. I'm loving the idea of one of these. Personally I doubt I'd ever film in 12k - it's more 8k and below for 4K delivery, but with the option of recropping and for all that extra detail. The frame rates (and always using the full sensor - except for a few exceptions) and image are incredible. Shame about the lack of dual ISO - probably the biggest drawback.
Glad you like the form factor. I'd like to think I would but it's a big step up (also needs less rigging than my current shooter so is a much tidier unit)...
Thanks for the sample clips. I'll check them out in resolve and compare them to my P4K (which would be the companion camera to this - for low light, b-cam and incognito/travel)...
Yeah I agree, even for most of us who wouldnt shoot 12K on a daily basis the other frame rate options at higher resolutions all while still getting 12bit RAW is amazing. Hoping the next gen has dual native ISO and a couple other improvements.
Lovely camera. I wonder if you can fit a monitor and mic on top but still use the gimbal? It seemed like you had only 2 pounds of margin. A monitor, arms, and mic might be under 2 pounds?
Thanks for the great video! I would suggest trying to power the camera from gimbal with dtap or 12V output - it's lighter and much more stable.
perfect info. short, perfect, nice to hear you.
Thank you for an objective review! I was eyeing this camera over C300 M2, especially since the price was dropped on it.
Why do the Ursa cameras not have dual native ISO like the pocket cameras?
I totally get that bit about the ND filter getting into the shot. Same on the UMP G1. I was covering a pre-dawn raid by some activists blocking a gas power plant. It was 18ºF, so I was wearing thick gloves. After the sun rose, there were some shots with a mysterious angular thing in the shot. I thought I broke the camera, then figured out is was the ND filter. Luckily, I lost nothing by cropping and selecting alternate takes. But I learned my lesson and that has never happened since.
Wow see that’s a perfect example of you being focused on so many aspects of the job the last thing you should have to worry about is “is the ND filter blocking my sensor?” Haha glad it was able to be worked out!
Well i gonna buy my first ever camera in coming days and I don’t know which camera would be good for youtube like sony or maybe i should go for bmpc camera could you please tell me ??
How do you manage focus while mounted in the gimbal? Thanks for sharing by the way
13:30 just so you know the pixel size has been proven a myth. When testing with a 20mp full frame camera against a 42mp full frame camera, the exposure and dynamic range were exactly the same. There’s a few videos on it but I think it might’ve been Tony Northrup that did a pretty good one. It’s not about pixel size, but about sensor size. Super 35 sensors won’t have less dynamic range just because they’re higher resolution
It’s known that full frame tends to have higher dynamic range, but it’s not due to large pixels, and larger pixels don’t change exposure.
That thing must be a beast! Thanks for all the info!
hello i am amateur football futsal which camera would you recommend me to record video of matches
Make sure to watch in 720p for the full effect
What stabilizer is that? Sorry, new to the art!
It would be great if you could review the Ursa Broadcast G2. All the best! Thank you again for the info.
It’s clean but I still love the Black magic pro 6k with the small rig kit 👍🏽
Great review, really like your style. I did notice a lot of shake on your gimbal shots. Was that due to a balancing issue on set?
Actually all of the sample footage from sets was handheld. I only did that gimbal test right before I had to send back the camera. Crazy good! But yeah all of the shots were either tripod or handheld for the spots.
@@initialfocus Then that's a testament to your handheld skills! Haha.
@@joellouisfire It's also testament to handheld. Gimble shots are sooooo 2017 LOL
Ill take 5 of these thanx!
They should integrate these with the VR headsets so that you can view / control it from that.
Man you killed it with this video! So good
Thanks so much man! 🙌🏼
I want this camera so bad! I like how you said that you can't really say when something is overkill, bc you're right. Right now I have the gen 1 ursa mini and I love it, it's just missing the extra awesome features. So if anyone wants to sponsor me XD
Beautifully reviewed
Whats the apple spec commercial you mentioned? Would love to check it out!
Thanx! You're right! Useful info...
Hello! I have a question about a camera monitor. I have the URSA MINI Pro 12K and I wanted to use the Blackmagic Video Assist 12G as a camera monitor. But when I recorded BRAW I didn´t have a signal on the screen of the Video Assist 12G. Is it possible to record the BRAW video and watch the live video at the same time on the screen? I´m not sure if the SDI output on the URSA Mini Pro supports the BRAW....
Hello, what is this gimbal stabilizer? Not finding in description or your gear list 😅
Zhiyun Crane 3S Pro 👍🏼
I balanced ursa G2 , holly land wireless transmitter , tilta M follow focus , sigma 18-35 T2 cine lens on the zhiyun crane 3s. Battery use 4 pin DC cable to the v-mount plate of the DF Thanos pro 2.
I see you shooting at the crew stadium. Are you from Columbus?
Yup! Powell area 👍🏼
What LUT did you use to grade the stadium footage?
why not have senzor shift for mechanichal stabilization?
Hey just noticed the price was lowered to 5999.99 crazy hey ? Thinking about picking one up. I am curious oh noise and how much more noise over the 6K pro ???? Thanks again as a fellow content creator ?
Check out Matteo bertolli channel. He just did a grade in DaVinci with this camera. Basically he’s saying that the older style cameras have more dynamic range allocated to the shadows than the pocket 6k sensor with dual native iso. So if you under expose you can bring it back in post but he does mention noise as well but says it’s not too bad
Be great if Blackmagic came out with a 12k Large Frame Ursa!
Them 360s 🤣 Any microjitters from the Crane?
Liked the video. I'm owner of this beauty together with DZO Pictor lenses. I've yet to try to balance it on my Crane 3 gimbal though :)
it looked so boss balanced on that gimbal
What EF lenses would fit on the gimbal? Any zoom lenses?
Very informative! Liked and subscribed :)
Thank you! 🙌🏼
“An inch is an inch”
Men everywhere: yeah bro
which gimbal do you use?
Any cheap PCIE SSD will do just fine too for recording - I have tested on Samsung 870
Does the cage you link to below work with the Ursa 12K? It says it works with 4K and 6K.
Well laid out video my friend those frame rate options are crazy!
Thanks man! Yeah I was super surprised by the frame rates. 8K 120fps is just a crazy spec lol
@@initialfocus had to come back and fix those typos lol
What are the settings you used to shoot this??
9:15 are you the guy from the davinci resolve start up screen?
Hah I don’t believe so since I don’t work for BM 😅
Thanks dude!
Just put metric in text on screen plz... super helpful for outside US peeps. :)
Awsome video can you send a link to the music video that was in this video
Just a few notes on why the camera doesn't, actually, physically work. (Hi I'm Gabs, I'm an Imaging Technician and work alongside several optical engineers - something that plays a very important part in the argument). Yes hypothetically due to a crazy interpolation scheme (interpolation is part of the debayering process when a camera assumes RGB channel values for its red, green, blue and in this case white photo sites.) Which is where a sheer number of aberrations do form (aliasing issues) yes it theoretically does give an 12k output.... however it's so typical of our industry to view one figure and put everything else aside. If you can sample at 12k it does not mean your capturing 12k fidelity (227.27 lpmm!!!!). People argue digital imaging sensors are in there infancy, yes one could make that point. However another as important aspect of capture that isn't in its infancy is optics. Anyways explanations bellow. If you read it, have fun. I recently have been studying the 12k’s relatively tiny photo sites (2.2 micrometers). I have some findings that I am unsure are correct and was wondering if anyone more experienced in this field could assist.
Now my question is, with the UMP12k’s photo sites being so small. Does it make it physically impossible for light to enter them without overlapping to a certain extent making the famed resolution redundant.
Allow me to elaborate. One may question this by saying the actual wavelength of light, for example, green is around 500nm (nano-metres). This is far far smaller than that of the 2.2 micrometer photo sites. However the actual part of light we capture the ‘Airy Disk’ is substantially larger than that of the wavelength.
An airy disk is formed when light passes through the aperture/iris of the lens. As you stop down (due to diffraction) the airy disk get’s larger.
A crude example of this would be water coming out of a hose. As you put more pressure onto the end of the hose making the exit smaller the spray of water gets larger.
It is important to note an Airy Disk does not have a sharp cut-off. It has a bright central region, with additional rings around it. The bright central region is measured at about a 2.44 ratio.
To calculate the size of an airy disk one must times the ratio 2.44 x f-stop x nm of light. So using this equation far red (700nm) at F2.0 (700 x 2.0 x 2.44 = 3416nm). Now 3.4um (micro-metres) is substantially smaller than say a 7.2um (if I remember correctly) photo site of a UMP4.6k and smaller than the 8.25um photo site of an Alexa. However 3.4um is larger than a 2.2um photo site of the UMP12k.
If we did the equation again at the other end of the spectrum where the wavelength of light is significantly smaller it would be another story. However for the size of this post we shall move on.
(I will quickly note that resolution is often calculated at 550nm (Green) but for proving my point I’ll remain in far red as I commonly use tungsten fixtures, I will note as well I am unsure if the cameras spectral response curve is indeed that sensitive to this part of the spectrum, but again, hypothetical).
Now by all means airy disk’s being larger than the photo site of a camera is not uncommon say if we did the same equation above at F5.6. We then obtain an airy disk which is 9.5um. Larger than that of the Alexa.
Now Airy Disks can overlap a bit without causing a major hit to resolution. This is where MTF takes stage.
If you're interested it taking a deep dive into MTF please do so. I won’t put too much information here. However from a very basic perspective it looks at the overlapping of airy disks. Measured by putting black and white lines next to one another at different intervals.
MTF (100) is when a solid black line is next to a white with no overlap. MTF (0) is where everything is a wash of grey. Making the airy disk similar to that of the photo site puts us at MTF (74) but resolution is often calculated at MTF (50)
Now to be able to use MTF to show the point I’m making point we need to calculate the line pair per millimetre for a sensor. That is done by taking 1mm (1000um) / pixel pitch (2.2um) / 2 (line pair). The UMP12k would be 227.27 lp/mm and just for a comparison the Alexa is 60.61 lp/mm and the UMP4.6k is (I don’t remember the exact pixel pitch) around 70 put crudely.
I shall copy and paste this math to save time "The actual MTF(50) ratio is 1.971. So you could think of it as multiplying the pixel pitch by that or multiplying the Airy Disk ratio by that, but the 1.971 is just another ratio that would be multiplied by everything.
So, f-stop of MTF(50) = 1.971 * pixel size / Airy Disk / wavelength in nm
For the Blackmagic 12K sensor at green 550nm, that puts MTF(50) at f3.2 and for the Alexa sensors that puts it at f12.1.
At red 700nm light, the Blackmagic 12K would hit MTF(50) at f2.5 Alexa would at f9.5
At violet 400nm light, the Blackmagic 12K would hit MTF(50) at f4.4 and the Alexa would at f16.7”
(Joshua Cadmium)
Now to conclude. I want to emphasise here that this is with a PERFECT lens. Only limited by the diffraction limit! Even glass such as a Master/Supreme/Signature prime suffers from aberrations and their glass is by no means as transparent as air (attributes of a perfect lens). If I remember correctly a master prime just about gets MTF (74) at 70lp/mm. Even with a beautiful highly regarded piece of glass on a camera with such small photo sites it would surely give a considerable hit to resolution.
Does this make the 12k feature of this camera redundant? Well, that is my question.
Do let me know if I’m being a moron and miss understood my studies.
I have not proof read this either, am in quite a rush but wanted to write this.
TLDR - No optical system (even one with elements as transparent as air with almost zero optical aberrations (note some of our best designed optical systems in our world (film) doesn't come near this note Master Primes at MTF74 at 70lp/mm (which I will add is perfect for the Alexa's photo site).
Now, another thing. One might ask 'Why is out resolving an optical system a bad thing?' - it's not. Your just going to suffer the serious consequences that come about with tiny, tiny photo sites (similar to that of your iPhones camera) photo sites. Small photo sites are much more easily saturated (when a photo site cannot decipher any further information) a smaller photo site is much less sensitive (note the smaller surface area) and with a lack of sensitivity from the photo site level your noise floor rises without a serious amount of internal analogue and digital noise mitigation (the last part being an assumption but that's my only theory on how each photo site giving such little voltage output would be able to be boosted without such discrepancy in gradient to others (noise)).
Hello, why not use a zoom lens?
Plastic isn't plastic, GFRP can be stronger than aluminium depending on the level of reinforcement.
So always check the materials carefully before assuming aluminium is a better material choice.
Its not the material but the fittings, seals and seams?
Hm... Looking at bmpcc6kpro I wonder, why didn't they call their Ursa a "pocket" cam:) Well, it's "mini" at least!
What a machine!!! 🤯
It’s pretty insane!
How much are body parts worth on the black market again
The best review!
Great video! I assume you are still uploading the files?
How can I get premiere pro to open the BRAW?
when I add them it tells me that the file format is not valid
That's pretty Awesome
What is the gimbal you used?
Thanks michael
What’s one size fits all lens?
Hy I am watching your video from Pakistan 🇵🇰 I want to buy a new camera in few days for videos and images as well but my main focus is cinematic videos can you please give me your good advice either I should buy mirrorless or DSLR . I am begginer so also I am having some budjet issues almost count under 500$. Please give me a better suggestion.
What kind of gimbal is that
Can you link that gimbal?
but how do you monitore it with the gimbal
whats the intro music?
Thanks for the footage, mate! How big are the files?
Probably more than 2TB at full resolution...
BRAW is actually very efficient with file sizes. Don’t get me wrong it’s big but if you go to the 12K product site you’ll see how big they are
@@initialfocus 12K 17:9 DCI 24FPS Q0 is 1.2 Gigabyte (1.2GB/s) = 46 Minutes at 2TB. I love blackmagic 12K. Probably my first choice for Video production compared to those Little toy cameras.
Hmmm.. The 12K Vertical Tik Tok Videos idea got me thinking...
I just plunked down for a second BM 12K. No, it is not a perfect camera. Low light lovers with dark indoor setups? Pass. Buy a FX9 or Varicam and spend a lot mo money. Those who light - the art of cinematography imo - YES, this camera can produce wonderful images, but imo it wants and needs proper exposure to shine. The sensor is amazing, but it can be noisy and moire can bite you. The body is HEAVY - but so are tiger tanks. It can drop frames, so this purchase I am going with Angelbird Pro 512s. I went with Prograde 512s on my first BM12K, and they do a fine job, but my advice is to test, test, test. Don't push your media to the redline. That extra bit of data is not worth dropped frame or dropping out of record - for me - and it will drop out if you go past what the media can sustain. BRAW rocks! As always, your mileage may vary - horses for courses.
I personally like big robust camera for youtube vs small lesser build quality cameras like the Sony zv10 which if you dailyvlog you're going to break it
i hear that the pocket 6K DR is much better if you use HR compare the the 12K with HR
What’s the name of the music video filmed here?
What app do you use to open a .braw file?
Pretty much any editor like Resolve, Premiere, FCPX or download BRAW player from blackmagics website.
12k vertical tiktok with a $6,000 camera. Someone will do it. 😆
which is gimble tht u use 360 rotrate
Crane 3s Pro
sir tnq pls suggest me youtube vlogging video camera with stability option
I’m not the best resource for that as I don’t clog or use cameras with auto focus 😅 I’d check how my buddy JHawk’s channel. He’s got good content on that
@@initialfocus NP ill check
what is the intro song???