Have we gone MAD?? - We bought a bunch of Blackmagic Ursa Mini Pro 12Ks
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It's been a few years since we started filming in 8K. But now, the Blackmagic Ursa Mini Pro 12K is out. Can we make 12K videos?
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LTT: Gets 12k
(3 months later) Also LTT: soooo our storage is full again.....
Damn LTT likes this comment
This is their plan, this is how they make content man LTT playing 4D chess over here
Next month: Adding 10 PETABYTES to our server!
And you know what’s not full and needs upgrading? This segue to our sponsor. Thanks to Seagate for sending us over 5 petabytes worth of drives!
1 exabyte (1000 petabytes) next? Yes yes? Linus and everyone won’t complain about storage being full ever again.
LTT 2019: PETABYTE PROJECT IS FULL
LTT 2020: WE'RE RECORDING IN 12K
I might get a heart attack
LTT 2021: WERE RECORDING IN 16K, ALL THE WORKSTATIONS HAVE 64 CORE THREADRIPPER PROS AND 2TB OF RAM
They really need to use up a petabyte
@@E579Gaming well they're using well beyond a petabyte now, they really need to offload a lot on whats on petabyte project onto tape or build a much bigger server room with a big ass ceph cluster
@@alpal6476 more like 24k! We've struck gold! 320 million pixels!!!
Linus : talking about RUclips not supporting 12k
Me : my internet doesn’t support 360p
My internet is so slow I have to watch in 144p (not even kidding)
Oof thats bad is it because theres limited option for provider or?
@@fathanpratama6008 20,000’ + dsl line
i have to watch in 144 my internet is terrible
I feeling you
The irony is that due to RUclipss compression, the Shot in 8K and Shot in 4K samples don't look that much different.
Yeah, even watching it in youtubes 4k compression, the 8k looks softer / 'worse' than the 4k.
Tho I don't believe that anyone actually cares about 'sharpness' in photos/films/videos.
Your device has to also be able to handle as well as the app and your signal and etc
There is no irony here. This video was prefaced with this point. The topic of this video is not about viewing high res footage. It’s about editing it.
This is likely down to the fact that the Blackmagic Ursa 12k shoots the same way for 8k and 4k, just downscaling the 8k readout to a 4k file. On top of that they might not have lenses that are made for resolving pin-sharp details in 8k.
To be fair, it's up to the owner to blow the budget of the video production beyond a sensible limit.
Wow!! Thanks for featuring our video in this! That ghost recording issue really was annoying.
That’s light
Glad Linus mentioned you guys. You guys deserve all the viewers you get.
That's media
Thanks for making awesome videos that help us all understand this crazy new gear better :D
Nice!
Me with a 720p display: "this is so crisp"
Sem
Me watching in 360
Why are we here just to suffer
@@jillianangell2570 thats just a hardware issue if u have a great pc u can watch at even 4k and u wont have noise issues
Bruh, I can't game and where contacts it tires my eyes. I see in 720p for 2 feet anyway lol
i wanted to comment the exactyy same thing :D
How to freak out Linus:
"I see dead pixels." 😁
Linus: Why are we here, just to suffer?!
@@kevinsupreme_ph36yearsago59 want some ram?
It looks to me that you paid tons of $$$$ to beta test camera software.
As if he payed for any of these. Tho maybe he did, because why would Blackmagic want an ad that just shows how poor the workflow on their product is.
@@definingslawek4731 he probably did, otherwise he'd mention if it was sent to him for free. I havent seen a video where he doesnt mention it if it happened. I dont doubt that they payed for it, as they seem to have the cash due to their sponsor policy and online store.
@@nathaniel1207 he would, apparently its legally required for "internet influencers" to CLEARLY state that they received a product if they did.
@@ThatGenericName I didnt realize it was legal, but that makes sense
Welcome to Blackmagic. Great prices, great features, looks good on paper - but when you actually use it, you start to realize why the price is so low compared to other pro products.
This doesn't apply to their little converters by the way. These usually work great.
Why LTT shoots in 12K: So they can justify upgrading their server equipment!
1 week from now, "guys we upgraded to 12K, now we need to upgrade our server equipment!" and the cycle continues
Oh yes, the never-ending circle of upgrades. Either their internet, PCs or servers are too slow, their storage is full or their cameras are too low-res.
Next video: "We upgraded to 100 GBit/s internet, so we can live-stream six different locations in RAW 12k." 🤣👌
@@aoelp I mean they already have a direct glass fibre with their own dedicated wavelength straight into the Vancouver internet exchange but that's only 10 gigabit I think:D
Saw you on mercs cold war video
Umm Linus!! Try and remember that most of your viewers don't have a clue what camera settings mean!.. Most of your viewers don't know what camera's are.... And don't know what premiere pro is.... And punching in, and what shutter speed means, or aperture........ And for what the more resolution the better like. having something like 4k or 8k or 12k to punch in to fake multiple camera angles! Most of your viewers have no CLUE what these things mean
anyone who doesn't understand those things is a TRUE PLEB!!!!!
Next project: "We watercooled our new 12K camera, what can go wrong?"
They have 5 spares so I’ll think he’ll be alright.
And after that they make it waterproof an record under water
Yea, let’s throw a few Xeon’s in there
They better use your title just to be cheeky if they do it lol.
Everything
6:31 that's why you need to
- Import clips into DaVinci
- transcode clips into DaVinci to DNxHR format or even APR 4444 or 422
- then import the transcoded (lighter) media into Media Composer or Premiere or FCP X
- when you finish your edit then you do a AAF or XML to DaVinci again
- import AAF or XML to DaVinci
- re-link media to the original footage
- do the color correction on DaVinci
- then export
i know.. there are a lot of steps, but how do you think Cinema and Big TV production are working?
Do you seriously think that we're working with native resolutions?
LMAO HELL NO.
this guy edits
Exactly!
Switching to BRAW and Davinci resolve was hard to get use to but I can't imagine going back now. If you haven't used Davinci yet I highly reccomend it.
They tried it, then moaned about the system requirements.
@@richardhammer187 Can't run it on a potato.
@@BryanEnsign yep, and it's not like they've just dropped $60k on cameras or anything...
@@richardhammer187 lmfao
@@BryanEnsign Considering you can't edit 12k on an RTX 2080, there is definitely something wrong there.
Still doesn't stop me from using DaVinci Resolve (free), it's great software.
To be fair, I would be upset after spending 10k on a camera, having to switch editing software, and upgrade all machines to an RTX 3090 to get it to run at 20fps with tons of stuttering.
RUclips: "No we will not load your fireplace at 12k"
They're too busy banning channels because someone in a video said "gun".
@@arnox4554 lol yeah
you actually can upload video at 12k and even 16k on youtube lmao (just that it appears with the 8k logo but it's truly whatever resolution) it just plays like absolute crap.
Here's a 16k vid: ruclips.net/video/kQgNqtecAM4/видео.html
15 years of youtube I have never seen youtube do that!
RIP Petabyte project, that thing is getting filled in two seconds
I was thinking the same thing..lol
Actually no, braw can be lighter than R3D
ZETTABYTE PROJECT !!!!!!!!
INFINITE STORAGE PROJECT!
@@kernelpanic2887 heap and prores at the same compression ratios coming out of my bmpcc4k. I shoot everything in 4K BRAW over my old 1080p h.264 just because braw is so lightweight, well worth the filesize
I like how dropping the resolution a little during recording to 6K, or even 8K wasn't even listed as a possible short term solution by Linus 😂😂😂
Bugs and glitches aside, I'm happy that Blackmagic makes cameras for both professionals and hobbyists in mind at a low price. The specs to price ratio are just mind-blowing honestly.
I love how Linus bought 6 of them, and said, "But my freedoms!" He sounded so not canadian
He could have bought future apartments for his kids instead
@@JeskidoYT pretty sure he can afford entire buildings for his kids, not just one apartment lol.
"But my freedoms bud" would have been totally Canadian though.
Because 1 is never enough!
Umm Linus!! Try and remember that most of your viewers don't have a clue what camera settings mean!.. Most of your viewers don't know what camera's are.... And don't know what premiere pro is.... And punching in, and what shutter speed means, or aperture........ And for what the more resolution the better like. having something like 4k or 8k or 12k to punch in to fake multiple camera angles! Most of your viewers have no CLUE what these things mean
anyone who doesn't understand those things is a TRUE PLEB!!!!!!
Don't lie, the real reason is E-peen. 😂
You!
Lol
Hey my school has an esports team can you help point me in the right direction to get a sponsorship
Hey Dawid!
Hey everyone!
*Buys a 6 $10k camera's*
IDK man the $60 plugin is a little steep!
its not about the money, if you buy a brand new car, you dont want to pay for switching oil filters and oil, when you buy it and go through all the hassle of bringing it into the repair shop, just so you can use it. it is brand new and really expensive, it should work from the get go
@@yabeeba_com bro it’s a joke it ain’t that deep
@@yabeeba_com wow
I don't care 😮
@@CallMeVidd he probably knows it, he's just educated those who don't about this shit
@@Test-fr7hi Then
don't
fricking
comment
*RCDWorld1:* "They caught you in 4K!"
*LinusTechTips:* "Hold that thought, my guy." 😎📽
11.27K: Am I a joke to you?
yes now go get a vaccine
Hello Jarrod
Ok
Hey Jarrod, which Laptop next?
I didn't know you watch linus videos
Linus: shoots in 12k
Me watching in 360p: this is so crisp
CRISP
C R I S P
Me: thinking ill get a 8k tv so I will be future proofed for like a decade or so
Linus: here's 12k
@@frostbite3820 😂
watch in 144p it will be cruncy
I remember seeing a documentary on researchers using an underwater 16K camera to film in an Antarctic lake. They explained that despite not having a 8K display or above it was so that very fine details could be studied on a 1080p display.
Who's here after Blackmagic dropped the price of these camera by $4,000?
Me watching this in 360p:
Ah yes, looks sharper
I feel your pain.
I watched this in 480p because of my WIFI
@@henrystickmin3514 if were trying to one-up me,
Then you failed the task successfully
Thank God my wifi can get 4k without any buffering
@@Ahmed_onYT who asked
"no one has a 12k display"
yeah, no one has an 8k display either.
no one has an 4k display either
@@Aman-hs6pb Nobody has a display either
@@Aman-hs6pb most people don't have 4k monitors, but most do have 4k TVs these days, at least in the states.
@@IamR3D88 you're right but only few people have 'em here in India :(
@@IamR3D88 not really, they only became priced low enough this year, and most people are perfectly happy with their 1080p tv. many wont even consider switching until their current tv breaks, or starts to degrade in picture quality from pixels getting stuck, or dim, what have you.
All our tv shows are shot on alexa these days, 4k or (yes) 2k. red is largely abandoned. Locke and Key was partially red 8k - was some of the worst footage we got in years (the worst ever was the SI2k cameras used on SAW3D, closely followed by the sony 8k anamorphic camera on Alias Grace, although we are blaming that one on the DP :). Blackmagic never seems to get their shit together to flow in a pipeline, so they never get used. A shame, the hardware seems to be up to the task.
So sorry that you guys are still on Premiere Pro. Switched my whole team over to Resolve 2 years ago. It was rough for like 3 months, but it is SOOOO much better for our production house.
Kudos to Brandon for his sales techniques on you Linus ;)
Hahaha true! From red 8k..
All Brandon has to say is "12k" and Linus is already in
they care more about specs rather than fit. since their studio is well lit, the switch is impractical (considering that they already have an overkill setup for this kind of content).
@@boydolomite1692 What do higher resolutions have to do with their lighting setup? If anything, more resolution makes it harder, because the more pixels you have, less light is hitting a single one at a time, making for a more grainy image with poor lighting.
But agree, 8k and especially 12k are kind of unnecessary for LMG, they shoot mostly static things in a studio and don't really do VFX and tracking.
My guess would be "they do it because they can"
@@staubig if i remember correctly, they not only do youtube stuff, at least, that was one of the reasons for the 8k red cameras
That one guy with a 12K tv or monitor watching this:
"It's like... I was made for this."
That guy is fictional
@@DQ4rk our lifes are frictional
@@DQ4rk are you referring to the person in question or the pfp
@@milk5002 person, no one has a 12k display afaik
@@DQ4rk oh they exist, there being held at the capital and area 51. Free the 12k oleds!!!!
1:51 "The human eye can only see 720p"
Me: LOOOL! XD
I did not even notice that, is is typed in the video. Loooool :D
By the way, I can watch some videos in 1080p on RUclips. Also Looool :D
Him holding expensive stuff with one hand makes me anxious
There's a reason it's called "the bleeding edge".
I mean, Blackmagic's 8k decklink cards have been out for a while and they are still buggy as hell
@@gr4V3l resolve studio is also buggy af. Although version 17 is a bit better luckily. I'm still having playback issues with 4k braw footage where it skips frames while playing in the braw player works fine.
I am gonna celebrate such LTT achievement by reducing my resolution on RUclips to 720p! :p
I’m going to increase my resolution from 144 to 720.
me: scales down to 360p cause my datas too slow
"Editing it on a mere mortal workstation? That's another story." Like that is a problem for you guys with your god tier workstations XD
As he goes on to later explain, yes, it is a problem for them in this case.
@@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932 or he made it a problem.
@@kaspervestergaard2383 Are you *really* claiming that LTT caused the GPU shortage? Because that shortage is the reason it's a problem for them; they can't get the cards that are strong enough for what they want to do.
@@nmotschidontwannagivemyrea8932 No I claim that they shoot in insane resolution that is abundant.
"look at the diference between 8k and 4k ! "
Me looking at 1080p : "yeah, i see BIG diference"
No, no. I ran it back a few times in 720p and saw a difference. 4K is less blurry.
@@KittyCat-ot9vc well done bro 💪👌
pretty sure normally my eyes can't see a difference between 1080 and 4k since my eyes are bad :P
@@jbird999cg u need to upgrade yourself 😅😅
VGA all the way, I want the "good old days" to return ...... NOT! To borrow a Monty Snake quote - I lay awake at night (nite for the pilgrim decendents) dreaming of 1080p ....
When editor's work stations have as much RAM as my PC has storage...
@ at least u have a home
@@niceboii9368 at least you have a name
when their gpu has more ram than your entire computer....
@@jazmihamizan4987 Luxury! When i were a lad...........
@@jazmihamizan4987 atleast you are alive
Linus :- Nobody is watching this on 8k
Me ( watching it in my job PC (Pixar) ) :- Uhhhhh......
When I saw Canon and Sony cameras offering 8K video, I almost started putting money away, but I told myself to wait a couple of years, not so much for saving money (they are affordable cameras, relatively speaking), but for improvement in color sampling and in frame rates. Do you remember when HD DSLRs maxed out at 30fps? I love slow motion, so that is why I care, and I work in greenscreen, so I like at least 4:2:2. The 12K had me excited too, but for the future, not for the present offering. I love the advances in technology.
0:32 * 8K shot versus 4K shot*
Me watching this video at 720p: what’s the difference???
They look almost identical. The 8K footage is ever so slightly sharper but that's about it.
Me watching in 360 *interesting*
@@davisjackson7073 same
This must be a bug, they seem to be absolutely identical.
Watching something shot in 8k even on a 1080p or 720p screen will look better than something shot at 4k.
You get an advantage with noise and sharpness regardless of the output resolution.
Meanwhile eBay listing goes up for water-cooled RED 8K digital cinema camera.
On a side-note you should probably always use adjustment layers instead of making the fixing/grading on the original footage layer.
Another option is to do all your editing with lower resolution proxies. Doesn’t help the final rendering time but it certainly makes the editing smoother.
Or just use Resolve. It’s free-ish, super powerful and works great with braw.
Ltt's very transparent use and precived superiority of using windows is awesome and I love it.
Ltt: Are we CRAZY for buying 6 of these?
Me: Absolutely
Sadly it's still cheaper than the 2 8k red cameras they've been using🤦🏻♂️
@@fateunleashed9680 let's ignore that, and concentrate on the negatives though...
@@richardhammer187 maybe red was sponsored and the other wasn't :)
Petabyte storage of Linus: *Sweating*
Time for project Exabyte it seems
What happened to their unlimited Google drive storage hack?
"We've gone MAD" the fact that you only realize it now is hilarious 🤣😆😂
"HAVE WE GONE MAD?"
- *Yes!*
* Video Ends *
Only cool kids remember when the title was: “8K is for plebs. Can we edit in 12k?”
Yes
Video hasn't even been out a day lol. I didn't know this.
Yes
Yes
YESSSSS
Linus: "Is Blackmagic in cahoots with Nvidia to sell 3090's"
Plot twist .....Blackmagic is owned by scalpers
Guess the script writer should be fired then😂😂✌️
Jokes on them Linus just scalps those 6 cameras LMAO
5:33 Not sure if this has maybe been fixed by now, but I just tried grading some 12K sample shots on my Windows PC (R9 3900X / GTX 1080) in Resolve and it worked just fine for me.
Ultimately the primary customers for this product are, I think, major studios. Almost every professional video producer outside RUclips uses a resolve work follow so for a first generation product, it makes a certain amount of sense to target what is by far your largest market.
Bruh, like do you need 8k?, I'm watching this from my Galaxy S2 at 720p
Lol
Samsung galaxy duo, 480p.
Rookie.. I'm watching this at 360p
Plebs I’m on a chromebook at 144p
@@michaelrisdon5324 240 lolol
Linus: *grinds the cameras into dust and snorts it*
Linus: "I can quit any time I want!"
Linus meth tips
My first NLE system was a Media 100 at 640 x 480 with a couple of SCSI drives. Cutting edge stuff in '96. I'm old.
Looking forward to your new 64 Exabyte server to support 12k videos.
"8K is for plebs"
"How we process 12K video"
"Have we gone mad?"
Last update - 04:27am 11-Dec-2020 utc +04:00
Missed the second one
I want to remember this in 5 years
Great work! Keep updating, bro.
the first one is 8k is for plebs. Can we edit in 12k?
LOLOL
Linus in secret shopper: Origin sucks
Origin: hold my wallet
i was just thinking this too!
Technically they only criticism was the exorbitant pricing and therefor shitty performance, Customer experience was okay and the build quality up top.
What he said was that they should not sell a 1500$ pc, they sell high end systems. I mean they offer custom paint, laser etching and a lot more. If you care about performance per $, dont buy from them.
Worst performance per value, but nice tech support people and.. ah wait tell it them yourself Linus.. here ya go.. ruclips.net/video/Go5tLO6ipxw/видео.htmlm46s It would be more remarkable if DELL "gaming pc's" would be a sponsor..
Interestingly enough, this sensor has more horizontal pixels than even any medium format stills camera.
The fuji gfx 100, a 102MP stills camera (which can also record 4k video) has 11.6k horizintal pixels, because stills cameras (especially medium format) have much squarer aspect ratios. So despite the horizontal pixels being less than 12k, the total resolution is more.
Would love to see a follow up video on that
Linus: We doing 12k now bois
Luke and FP staff: *sweating profusely*
0:31
"Corporate wants you to find the different between these two pictures"
"They're the same picture"
for real though haha
actually it looks to me like they switched the 8k 4k signs
@@horiciOwO yeah I agree unless they messed the transcode up
linus: 12k camera for the crispiest image
me watching it in 480p: wow so crisp
i'm giving you guarantee that linus is going to upload a server room storage upgrade video
ah shit here we go again !
Next week, Linus be like "We now need one more Petabyte of storage" XD
I've never heard "B Raw" this many times not being in "incognito mode"
Had to scroll too far for this comment.
This video has aged so well. Buying a bunch of the 12K's must've been an amazing decision, the Blackmagic workflow is out of this world and the color matching is nutsss!!
Maybe but the last live stream I watched they were using Sony FX6's so I guess the dream is dead.
Switched to DVR a year ago and I will never ever go back to FCPX or Premiere. It's so easy and intuitive
@@Tappits84 link please, do they explain why switch to FX6?
@@Tappits84 They dont use the same cameras for all videos plus a 12K resolution is particularly useless for streaming since all of the editing advantages are removed from the equation. remember LTT has like 6 very successful channels now
I love the colour scheme on the "12K" that's written on the camera
Linus filling a 1tb hard drive with a sponsor clip.
*1tb ssd nvme
@@ramdan2478 probably that.
Next video: "Configuring our exabyte media server"
yes that with the bugs is a problem since I use the program. the support is bad. But what I find really annoying is that the Studio version 17 is sold with a speed editor. but I have been waiting for the bundle for 1 month. They sell things that are not delivered. And the only thing missing is a key for the software in the bundle. thanks blackmagic.
You should make a short 12k video and upload it somewhere (file host to download) and share it with us to see that 12k magic 😀
Honestly, "Blackmagic Raw" sounds like a porno. (Even the logo looks like one: 8:13)
BrazzersMagic RAW 😂😂😂😂
you have a point there
Umm Linus!! Try and remember that most of your viewers don't have a clue what camera settings mean!.. Most of your viewers don't know what camera's are.... And don't know what premiere pro is.... And punching in, and what shutter speed means, or aperture........ And for what the more resolution the better like. having something like 4k or 8k or 12k to punch in to fake multiple camera angles! Most of your viewers have no CLUE what these things mean
anyone who doesn't understand those things is a TRUE PLEB!!!!!
I mean porno in 12K, that´s a lot of detail.
Was going to upvote, but couldn't dare to offset the 69 likes... Nice
0:42 Linus casually throwing in a non-sponsor "speaking of which" to confuse our manual adblock algorithm
lol
Underrated
I love the inexplicit paradox in "manual adblock algorithm"
my brain wanted to skip but somehow i managed to resist
@@Kayajimaa lol same
I'll be waiting for the upcoming storage overhaul =)
You can now make high-resolution billboards from every single frame of video you shoot. Well done.
Have you ever seen a high res bill board irl? I don't think I have myself.
@@definingslawek4731 Fair point. They actually aren't printed at a high resolution since people are so far away from them. But they could be!
8k: Linus I can't edit these Videos it's lagging
12k *here I am*
"Add more ks. That'll fix 'er." -- Lunis Tektip
i just have finised ltt latest vid on 12K bullshit
5:54 "You can't even buy RTX 3090s"
Yeah, that's right Linus. We can't. Rub it in why don't you.
I mean I just put an order in with overclockers UK and like 2 weeks later one turned up lol
Why wait can't we
@@mrlingshaun6269 the scalpers took it
at least getting a 3090 is easier than getting a 3060/3070, right?
hey fellow sri lankan ltt fan
You make it sound like sponsors are working for you, not the other way around. Cool!
1:00 ... Right?... Right?.... WROOONG!...
an expression that never gets old.
“Speaking of which”
My instincts told me to fast forward 15 seconds
XD
@@Eduardo-pp1pt coé
sponser block extension baby
Person: *Exists in the present*
Linus: “P L E B”
I don’t even give a damn about 8k or 12k however what I find attractive is how future proof this camera seems comparatively speaking. Especially once u start to think of frame rates & resolution. 5 years from now I can still see this being a competitive piece of equipment.
I already know, I watched his 2017 video, it's for the editors to do some edit-fu so they can do the future magic and actually *enhance*
Short answer: Yes.
Long answer: Already happened when you started filming in 8K.
This.
When he said "Speaking of which", I thought he was going into a sponsor
He's on to us. I skipped forward and landed right in the ad slip in.
@@mikerosoft1009 50 seconds? Damn didnt know they do ads for that long
Umm Linus!! Try and remember that most of your viewers don't have a clue what camera settings mean!.. Most of your viewers don't know what camera's are.... And don't know what premiere pro is.... And punching in, and what shutter speed means, or aperture........ And for what the more resolution the better like. having something like 4k or 8k or 12k to punch in to fake multiple camera angles! Most of your viewers have no CLUE what these things mean
anyone who doesn't understand those things is a TRUE PLEB!!!!!
Well he did have 2 sponsors sooooooo...
Linus: Why do we need so much storage?
Also Linus: Shoots all his videos in a resolution for which there isn’t even a display for.
There is actually it’s called old fashioned 70 millimeter film projection lol
@@cheetahluv210 Yeah, your average monitor or cellphone screen doesn’t run on that lol
@@cheetahluv210 Plus, you keep it in a drive, not a body’s weight worthy of film.
@@josearmandoguerrerochairez3454 fair enough I’m just saying he could get it transferred to 70mm film to take full advantage of the quality and project it in a theater but it’s extremely impractical and might I say pointless lol
@cheetahluv210 yeah, i was talking about digital video, and if course some crazy shit would run it but you know what I mean, and with film, you can go as dense as you want, pretty much, :)
Always gets me with his sponsor part.
Linus: "Future proofing."
HDR: Am I a joke to you?
That's where RAW comes in.
@@mumin84 I kinda want it now given RUclips has supported it since 2016.
@@5urg3x Most "pro" cameras have supported what can be called hdr for 10-15 years or more, that included every blackmagic camera every made of course. Playback is what's new. I've only done one show so far that was specified as HDR output (to be seen on an HDR TV). Output was actually the same as normal, we just needed to add an HDR screening system so it could be checked.
@@5urg3x HDR means above 1 in SRGB 8 bit space. Thats it.
All these cameras shoot a raw format and you can put it in any colour space you like. red, blackmagic (cinema dng) and alexa have been unclamped for ages.
Condor was an HDR broadcast output show, the only difference in the pipeline was a new LUT for the alexa mini they used - and an expensive screening setup.
@@5urg3x The displays are a bit of marketing BS right now. They are highER dynamic range, but really just 10 bit with a wider but obviously not infinite space. HDR files (radiance format, the origin of the term back in the 80s) are 32 bit float, where you can have a pixel at 0.0000001 and the next at 1000000. As of the last few years, higher end tv and film are done in ACES colour spaces, which is a fucking disaster, but is an unclamped "hdr" space and you would deliver that for an "HDR broadcast output" tv show if you were into that sort of thing... but noone is. Before that we worked linear, with no colour space and just viewed in whatever LUT was suppled (mostly alexa log). Before that (90's to early 2000's) it was just random chaos. I dont deal with colour spaces anymore, thank god. i just make it look pretty on my screen and run away. :)
5:53
"You can't even buy 3090's, c'mon! This is just cruel."
...anyway back to our MAX SETTINGS 8K RAYTRACING GIGABONKERS.
well as BM said when they released it, it was kind of a new test for people doing cinema and they were going to be updating it as info comes in from the industry on what works and what doesn't so at least they gave advanced warning. This would also explain the weirdness around using premiere, as premiere isn't used in the professional space for cinema editing, but more in the prosumer space like FCP.
Although the memory issue was a weird one on PC, I suppose they couldn't impose that on Apple as Apple don't have any hardware it's asking for, but still.
Still compared to when RED release new tech it's not doing too bad, just software updates required, what usb standard is in use on the port do you know, the BMPCC4k had an older slow USB3 gen1 I think.
9:55 Describes Apple's business strategy perfectly!
Hahahahahahhaah
Linus 2023: "Yeah we know nobody has a 16K display, but..."
Sony has a 63 foot 16k TV available for purchase. It's a couple million dollars but it exists.
@@zidbits1528 you mean the new modular micro-led screens? I think lg has some as well. They got shown on ces 2019.
They did.... dechnically
@@zidbits1528 My eyes can only see till 1080p.
If you want to Game in 8K or above, you need *_solid_* RGB in your PC.
He get sponsored by IMAX
I didn't know that this was the Roast of Black Magic
Right, let's totally ignore the price difference, and availability of a 12K sensor. "From a brand new $10k dollar camera", probably because the equivalent 12K camera from Red would be...oh wait...
@@richardhammer187 Doesn't change the fact that a 10k dollar camera should actually have decent software, and not be so bug-ridden it's unusable when you purchase it.
@@jonasgrill1155 it does have decent software... This is a clickbait video. It comes packaged with DaVinci Resolve, and you can get it for free online. BRAW is meant for editing in Resolve and especially for colour correction. Never mentions normal workflow of going between editors. The fact it actually runs fairly smoothly on Resolve.
Linus who bitches about Adobe and is well aware it's crap at updates.
@@michaelodonnell6949 Still though, Blackmagic clearly has an apple bias, cause it runs perfectly fine on a low VRAM, slow m1 APU, but is still laggy on an RTX 3090.
You would hope that your software would perform better using one of the fastest GPUs in the world, rather than an APU that is slightly faster than a GTX 1050ti.
@@jonasgrill1155 As opposed to any other film camera producer? The fact it runs poorly on the RTX 3090, is not a failure of the camera or it's codec it's an issue with Adobe driver integration and broken updates.
Has nothing whatsoever to do with Blackmagic or it's "apple bias".
Interesting stuff it'll Be Great when they fix all the bugs and they should allow other codecs to be used that's not very kool I'm looking forward to see how things develop
LTT: Makes this video
Me: "hmm when is the water cooling video coming out"
Linus talking about 12k camera
My phone : Defaults to 144p
Its your internet
@@sarthaksaswatdas2846 nah i set it to 1080p later and it ran fine, no buffering
@@r.b5977 Still your internet... It's automaticly adjusted to have much headroom.
I have gigabit internet and it does it at first then switches to normal mid video 🤷
@@randomtube8226 that shouldn't be happening. I got 150mbps internet and for me it automatically puts the video to the highest available quality all the time.
"Can we edit in 12k?"
Me with a 1080p display: "Oh."
Typical shit comment
@@Name_cannot_be_blank shitpost is what makes the internet awesome
@@Name_cannot_be_blank it's actually overused, creativity gives it a twist
Me with 720
@@guvyygvuhh298 me were with 360p
The amount of things you said I didn't understand at all was outstanding, but I still watched the whole video.
Would love to see a followup video on this to see if you're still happy with this decision.