Make Your Own Sanding Belt
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- Опубликовано: 13 июл 2015
- I can't find pre-made sanding belts for my bench top sander with fine grits in Portugal so I started to make some myself from sandpaper roll!
Glue used is Epoxy Araldite Rapid 24ml
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"Screw everything and try it out" is my life's mission. Thanks for the hack. Doing this with my power file!!!
Bravo! I didn,t think that a simple epoxy glue would work for this type of gluing...Bravo for waking me up!
you saved our workshop here in Angola .... utterly gratefull ...muito obrigado
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Did it last long?
quick, simple and cost effective. not only a great job but a nice instructional video.
Definitely! She is a shop babe
Your tutorials are really good, very descriptive. Never would've thought of make a sanding belt.
this is awesome I own a craftsman belt sander (mini) it was a good deal at the time, but when sand belts become hard to find I simply bought a new one in a more common size, time to bring the mini back to work!.
To działa! Wystarczy nożyk do tapet, pilnik i klej epoksydowy. Dzięki za pomysł :)
Tinko del parfa don ripple nipple sammich? Cob extra hoohoo dilly.. mmmm. Knob stik earhole glib poof…. Mmmm
I always love it when they make tools a pain in the ass to do simple maintenance like changing a belt...
I imagine this tip could save you alot of money. It's better in your pocket than the big DIY stores! Thanks. N.
Neil George You're right! Thank you.
i made my sander machine myself, so i need to make them myself...
thanks a lot for this video!
Awesome trick! I discovered your channel few days ago and I love it! Congrats
THANK YOU🙂 i got belts that didn't fit but now i can still make use of em❤
Great job, clearly explained, thanks for shearing.
That was a great idea, and a great how to!
Darbin Orvar Thanks a lot!
great good
do you mean to keep your pants from falling down?
Great how to video! Where do you get your rolls of sand paper from?
***** Thanks! I buy them at the DIY store. They come in 3 meters, so I can make 3 belts from 1 roll.
Awesome video, thanks, just what I was looking for. Good job!
Great to see it actually works in person 👍 I've always wondered if epoxy would be strong enough to keep the material cloth backing together or if there were some special sandpaper bonding epoxy that was a trade secret??? SMFH Well now I know and I'm sold! Never gonna waste money on premade belts again! Thank you for your help with this question it seems to look like it would from the factory lol! Gotta try this one out now.
Great idea, thanks for the tip and the video.
Awesome tip! Thanks.
Thanks. Just what I needed to know.
I'm going to have a go at making belts for my modelling sander tomorrow. I never made them before because I couldn't work out a way to easily get rid of the lump at the glue joint. Never thought of just filing some of the grit and/or backing cloth off. Brilliant video & why some people have disliked this is beyond me
Because it's risky and illegal not to mention worthless
Illegal? Where do you live, North Korea? How can it be worthless if it's worth the price of a sanding belt? Risky? How do you think they make sanding belts? With glue joins, not with some miracle substance mined from Mars.
+archiearchie666 thank god I don't live in your country but your own laws prohibit that and I quote: Modifications or additions which affect the capacity or safe operation of the equipment are prohibited except whern the manufacturer approves those modifications.
Because there is no mention of the glue details as this is the most important link to this process. When the belt gets hot the glue will fail and then it was a waste of time!
I know this can be done. This is how they are made. Proper adhesive is critical. I have 300$ worth of 6inch belts that are old but unused. Factory glue let go. I can peel them easily. The correct adhesive and I can save a pile of money. She only mentioned epoxy so I’m half way there.
Thanks for this tutorial it’s been most helpful
Greetings from Austria, great idea and good job.
Good tip ! many thanks .
Great idea 👌 and video! 👏👏👏
I really liked your vid great job it anserwed a lot of guestions i didnt know if it could be done now its great cause i only have small belts 13" so this works thx
Thanks for this. I had some old belts that fell apart because the glue was so old and dried out. Now I see that I can fix them in a pinch!
Lory Henning hi there, I have the same problem with some belts I got with the sander! What glue worked for you when you used this hack?
Many thanks 🙏🏻
Great idea thanks
Really good and useful. Will try myself
Great videos. Thanks for sharing.
great idea!!!
Well explained video nice one ,I’ll try this on my belt sander 🤞thank you
Simple and effective video. Great example for a lot of people that chit chat for 5-10 minutes about nothing more than air
Good job :)
That sanding machine looks exactly the same as mine: Einhell BT-US 400. It's okay in home use for wood sanding.
The original sanding belt for mine is 915 mm long (doesn't include the overlap) and finding belts is hard.
And yeah, changing the belt on that one is a nightmare. I'm tempted to just tear the excessive stuff off from mine. Accustomed using industrial stuff, where changing 5 times as long belts takes 5 secs.
P.S. To me you did the bonding right considering the arrows, upper part of the bond being lower on the belt (as regards to the arrows), so when grinding, the overlap doesn't get ripped.
And a tip for all the grinders out there, do not grind for too long at a time, so the belt (and the grinded piece!) won't heat up too much, and you should be fine. Let the belt cool down once in a while. It's a bigger issue the shorter the belt (grinded material and speed of the belt affect too). Also it's better, if the belt is just a bit too long (not too much!) than if it's just a bit too short, decreasing the stretch on the belt.
Yours,
former industrial grinder
EXCELLENT info on the raised/proud end being lower on the belt as it runs to avoid ripping! thx!
can easily find belts 100 x 914mm long to fit the machine
looks a lot like my mastercrap chinesium sander
Is funny cuz she’s a he.. ha!
@@Z-Ack My apology for the video maker then. The hands and the voice got me wrong there. Shouldn't make assumptions like that I guess...
Thank you!!!! In Italy cost a lot! Now i will save a lot of money!!!€€€
I have close to 300 yards of sand paper belt that I picked up at a yard sell. you have now given me hope that I will be able to use it before I say screw it and buy premade belts.
Great idea.
I have the same machine, and I removed all the useless shit that makes it so long to change belts. It now only takes a few seconds, works the same.
I also removed the plastic protection to the sanding disk that prevented to work properly and it was a great improvement.
I was also amazed at the "in this case, there are about 7 or 8 screws that need to be removed before disassembling the parts needed to switch the sanding belts" - I had to re-watch that part 2 or 3 times to make sure I was understanding it correctly! My belt/disc sander has a lever release -- I just flip the lever (which releases tension on the drum at one end), pull the belt off, put a new one on, flip the lever back the other way (putting tension back on), and....done. I can't IMAGINE having to take 7-8 screws off to change a belt - ouch!
@@sumgai7 Those are probably "safety devices" mandatory for commercialisation approval. One you remove them, not only the dust don´t get trapped in any more, but it also just take the action of a lever to change the belt.
I am an old carpenter from California retired and I like your show . I like the way you think , keep up the good work.ED G ....
+Edward Garcia Thank you for stopping by, Ed.
Very good!
I have heard that carpet installers heat fusible tape works well, make a simple butt joint, apply tape & bond with household iron. No need to bother about arrows either as one must with lap joint as you show. Nice work on your part too! ☺
thats a killer tip! also hard to believe a butt joint that thin can be that strong - very cool.
Cristiana, kewl Video !
Been awhile, glad to see more of your stuff :-)
William Lutes Thanks Bill!
I once bought several boxes of varied grit size belts, and due to hot weather and shelf life, belts would snap apart when placed in the sander. I thought then that their glue was good. I'm reluctant to re-glue my old belts to save me added disappointment. Belt material is impossible to find in my country (Lebanon). However, my old belts aren't going to waste, I'm cutting them to be used in block sanding chores. I enjoyed watching your video.
Thats easy and very good tutorial
thanks for the video. i have tried and its not working with my handheld very well. it keeps jumping off. any tips?
it's always nice to see a girl who loves hardware😍
Exactly, and AMEN!!!
Good job man! =)
Excelant Video, good view for a dust collector on my machine.
Thankyou for this video. I am going to try this as I can only find 120 grit or lower.
Quite helpul, thanks.
So good 🥇
An excellent way have benefited from a great eye ....
quality video - very useful
I admire the patience in changing those belts, I would have thrown the machine out by now, or modified it! lol
Ahahaha yeah, I totally know what you mean. I ended up not using the screws since the pieces fit together well and don't dismantle with the vibration xD
Replace all the thumb screws with another machine!
caskwith This is not patience lol, try making a heavy duty belt from scratch lol
Get Hands Dirty Your belt sander sucks btw, make a decent one......that will make for a good video, I have made a couple myself. Time consuming yes, hard.......not at all.
ron peck Damn right, she should build a custom one, they are not hard to make.
Thanks!! Iam making one now.
this is so useful, I cant find any sand paper in the same size as my belt, but I can find really large rolls with the same width
great job... i am having trouble finding the finer grits for my 107" belt sander. This was a great how to video. Thanks :)
I bet, those are specialized belts that can pop up to around 100 dollars in some cases per belt. I nearly dropped my marbles when i finally found a good set. And the truth is they are worth it, there's a clear cut difference between a commercial belt and thee fine grit ones you can buy. Backing material is a lot more flexible, the grit lasts longer, and finally, they don't shear as a normal one would. I think there's a weave reinforcement of some sort because if you try to strike one in half, it doesn't follow like a regular belt would. It stops mid way and goes off along the length.
I am Dealing Abrasive in since last 12 years .we have conversation unit but this is first time to see this type of joints .we are using hydraulic press machinations for joints
What kind of glue to use in the belt industry
you are so amazing!
Good tip Chris!
Woodworking Barcelona Thanks a lot, Lluís!
very useful tks for sharing
Great video. I have a roll of sandpaper and I plan to build a sander, except I need to get the epoxy you used. Could you share what epoxy you suggest?
Is it possible to re-grit a blunt belt? Glue new grit onto the old belt?
very good!
When yo cut sandpaper you should cut in on the back side to prevent your blade dulling so quickly on the grit.
What angle should I cut the paper roll
What angle do I cut the roll of sandpaper to glue together?
What type of glue do I use to connect the sandpaper
What type of glue for connection
@@charlesandloishelwig3478 epoxy resin
I like your working place and the way you do it. Very clean and neat. When you were to glue two sides of belt together, I tought...sh*t...she sould put some paper below to avoid glueing it to the other side and in the next second, there's the paper. :D
Thank you very much for your demonstration, but I would like to know What brand of epoxy or glue are you using please .
Thank you!
GREAT VIDEO
Great tip and a great way to save on the cost of sanding belts. - Annie
SuperYtviewer Indeed, thanks for watching, Annie!
I've been having the same issue finding the right kind for my belt sander, nothing in my area fits mine as it's quite a small hand one. Doing this tomorrow!
Good Job !!
Thanks for sharing, and such a good idea!
WoodWorkWeb Thank you :)
Abdulrahman Abdul Razzaq Thanks for watching!
Get Hands Dirty this does NOT work for all belts, eg....It does not work for high tension belts, eg those used in knife making......which a lot of people watching this will be looking for a solution to.
Yours is a slow moving linishing belt sander, not made for removing heavy amounts of steel.
It can be done, but you need heat activated permanent tape, and it needs a high heat to activate it, not with a clothes iron which I have heard of some people trying, it just doesn't work that way, it needs high heat and pressure. I do mine using two thick plates of tool steel (approx 2 inches/ 50mm thick), putting the one that's going to make contact with the tape into my kiln and bring it up to 375°c, take it out and put it into my 10 ton press with the belt and the top plate of steel. keep it under pressure until the bottom plate is cold to the touch. I have seen many people bodge jobbing them, but if you want your belts to last (especially the expensive ones), you need to do the job correctly.
My bond will easily outlast the abrasive quality of any belt, so I know it works well. Hope this helps, also, yes buying a kiln can be expensive, but mine serves other purposes, eg heat treatment of my blades, it is much cheaper than sending them away to have done, and it's not rocket science to learn about how to treat all different types of steel, just reading time.
could you give information on the glue and where to get it?
Perfect
nice work :)
very good
nice i had forgotten I could do this. ( could only find the belts I wanted for my belt sander in machine lengths, thanks.
very nice vedio and good idea thank you for sharing ...that is what I need
+Mustafa osman Nice you find it useful, thanks for watching!
Very nice Cris! :)
***** Thanksss Roman!
Great idea, and cheaper to!
Where do you get bulk sandpaper like that? ..also, where do the arrows come from if you're the one making the belt?
I wonder if this will work as well for very coarse grit like 36? I've meant to ask even though you said in the description you were focused on fine grit. I seem to have a problem finding coarse grit belts that don't snap apart...so annoying...could be my sander, anyway if you have any insight I'd appreciate it. Thanks for this & other great videos!
where did You get the replacement belt? as looks like a Long one youve cut down
Nice tutorial, and you do a great job on your videos! Subscribed.
and Thank you! rc
+Rusty Case Thanks for watching!
Well, Thank you for teaching! :-) rc
Thanks!
very fine
what is the adhesive you are using
thanks
So what was the glue you used? Make and number. I have exactly the same problem.
good job, which kind of sandpaper?
Thanks
Awesome :)
thanks so much dear
Nice.
So how would this apply to making a whole new belt without an older belt for reference. i just bought some old belt sander where apparently they don't make belt lengths for anymore so im a bit lost on what to do. I did some measurements and found that the belt will need to be about 1130mm in length (50mm x 1130mm) so do i just buy a belts near that size and cut it down to length....i think i just answered my own question.
Great thanks
Good video.
Explain that the way the belt is lapped together determines the direction it is installed. You don't want the exposed lap entering the piece to be sanded first.
Good point! The "top layer" is the tail, so that the object for grinding is "flying" over the sand belt edge, right?
No shit, nothing gets by you...
Disliked by that one guy who manufactures sanding belts?! Great video. I would have never considered this, but after seeing you do it - why not?! Thanks
drstampfli Haha, thanks! Try it out, today I made two more in about 15 minutes - one 150 grit and one 240 grit and turned out pretty true and resistant so far.
hello Cris: D, I had a problem, I recently bought a hand-held belt sander, and I had to make the band, I did it without having seen this video, and I used it and it did not sand well I do not know what happened, even the grain It was so fine, it was 100 grit, well now that I watch your video I hear when you say that you have to be aware of the arrows of the sandpaper, and I cut the sandpaper so that the arrows are transversal, NEVER GO TO WORK WELL, true thanks for the video, now I know I must be more aware of the arrows on the sandpapers xD, greetings from venezuela, I love your videos :3
Awesome! What kind of glue have you used?
Awesome
Nice clean belt you made!
I'd suggest going with a higher temp rated, slow dry epoxy if possible.
Slow dry usually will give you a stronger better bond, though you'll need to verify tear strength of your preferred glue.
Higher temp since it is sanding belt which will generally heat up rapidly.
Heat being epoxies worst enemy. If you want to de-bond epoxy, use a heat gun. The glue you're using in this video is only rated for up 80°C/176°F. That's well below average working temps, which generally exceed 110°C/230°F. (Working material dependant of course.)
The combination of heat and pressure from the abrasive machining operation at the belt/wood interface can be so high that the heat melts resins in the wood, which cools, and become hard again, which results in belt loading. A loaded condition will cause the belt to be unable to cut properly, as the grains cannot fully come into contact with the workpiece, causing rubbing and friction, which generates excessive heat, belt wear and workpiece surface problems.
Point being, get a high tear/heat glue to use for your belts. And a belt eraser.
thanks for sharing your belt build.
I enjoyed the video.
Cheers....😉
shit dude. why don't you go make a video. looks like it was working fine. do you even own a sander or do you just like talking out of your ass. I love how you say how everything done was wrong and then say nice job. I guess maybe you on of those people who have to make everyone else sound dumb so you sound smart.
I use contact cement and even those never fail, i honestly don't think a belt would get hot enought that the glue will fail, the matrix the grit is mounted on would go up in smoke first before the epoxy fails I guess,
This is quite interesting because in Spain I can't find it either :)
Cactus! workshop Go ahead and make some!
can you give some information about angle cm