Engineer Makes Rihanna's "Diamonds" Shine Bright

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  • Опубликовано: 7 мар 2013
  • Join Full Sail Recording Arts graduate/Hall of Fame inductee Phil Tan as he walks through his mix session for Rihanna's chart-topping hit single, "Diamonds," talks about his career, and answers questions about his mixing techniques.
    As a Graduate of Full Sail's Recording Arts program in 1990, Phil earned some of his first engineering credits working with Kriss Kross, Run DMC and Toni Braxton. Since those early years, Phil has also served as a solid member of Rapper / Producer / Songwriter / Record Mogul Jermaine Dupri's camp in Atlanta. Phil's studio work includes Mix Engineer credits on GRAMMY Nominated releases by TLC, Will Smith, Brandy, Usher, Lil Kim, Aretha Franklin, Alicia Keys, Anthony Hamilton, Snoop Dogg & Pharrell, Omarion, Nelly, Destiny's Child, Gwen Stefani, and Mariah Carey to name a few. Phil has also served as a Trustee for the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences. Phil has been awarded three GRAMMYs for his work with Rihanna, Mariah Carey and Ludacris.
    Learn more at w.fullsail.edu/fsrecordingarts

Комментарии • 395

  • @bogsbinny7124
    @bogsbinny7124 8 лет назад +40

    This guy has the rare talent of looking like he's bullshitting even when he's not.

    • @d.j753
      @d.j753 8 лет назад

      +Bogs Binny ha

  • @JonathonNeher
    @JonathonNeher 9 лет назад +15

    I love that all the questions are answered with effectively, "It depends". But he's right!

  • @MrFatfree
    @MrFatfree 10 лет назад +14

    What a guy! Such an engineer, such a success and so humble at the same time! Unbelievable!

  • @elijahlucian
    @elijahlucian 7 лет назад +13

    he's like a genie, you need to ask very specific questions.

  • @DwinCarlson
    @DwinCarlson 9 лет назад +58

    48:35 "Are your speakers loud when you mix ?" ... "You and me could have a conversation the whole time..." ... "Oh sorry lolz". Guy though he was saying "quit hogging the mic", really he was just saying "no".

    • @CrownedCorruption
      @CrownedCorruption 9 лет назад +12

      glad im not the only one that caught that lol!

    • @BizzyMo
      @BizzyMo 9 лет назад +1

      Faaaiiill! 😂😂😂 haha

    • @arvinmaryami3824
      @arvinmaryami3824 9 лет назад

      +Edwin Chouvelon Nah he just already answered that question already so the guy just realized that and said sorry

    • @mattvdh
      @mattvdh 8 лет назад

      +Edwin Chouvelon he's so smart

    • @KMamba-oo3ls
      @KMamba-oo3ls 8 лет назад

      +Edwin Chouvelon That's so funny b

  • @YoungBlaze
    @YoungBlaze 8 лет назад +11

    i like this guy voice....

    • @busywl69
      @busywl69 8 лет назад

      +YoungBlaze Of Chitown lol

  • @rootube808
    @rootube808 10 лет назад +11

    I got a lot out of it....no tricks and secrets, but ... listen, practice, think about it, understand the way things relate to each other. Put in the hours, good stuff.

    • @recordedbybrandon
      @recordedbybrandon 3 года назад

      There is secret sauce, it's the analog he was talking about, there a few pieces of gear that's better than in the box, and if it is expected a car payment 🤣

    • @recordedbybrandon
      @recordedbybrandon 3 года назад

      But that's not the only thing that makes a song great !

  • @askjdog
    @askjdog 9 лет назад +9

    I've read the comments, and it's interesting. I'm not in this industry, just a hobbyist. However, this is not a tutorial video of what techniques to use. It's a college guest speaker seminar of someone who graduated from said college and is successful in his industry. He talks about his career and the hit song is merely a starting discussion topic to generate interest.
    I give it a thumbs up. Success in most areas of life is about many things; timing, mentors, talent, connections, and seriously long hard work, and continuous self development.. Luck, opportunity, work ethic, passion, etc.
    There is greater talent than I will ever innately have, or develop in this area, and certainly never was a career consideration. It is also a business, and as such subject to cyclical change, and the impact of technological automation. Which affects salaries, and job opportunities.

  • @tonyhudspeth3861
    @tonyhudspeth3861 9 лет назад +5

    such a humble and graceful
    person Phil Tan is

  • @brucema12
    @brucema12 10 лет назад +3

    Phil was one of the best and most memorable students I ever had in 5 years of teaching at this school! Congrats Phil!

  • @Parmoss1640
    @Parmoss1640 9 лет назад +4

    Even though the answers were not finite, I really appreciate his intention to be forthright and as direct as possible considering the vagueness of some of the questions. Remember how Bruce Lee answered questions... "Be like water...", vague, but speaks volumes. Phil's the real deal.

  • @iamdanielwray8940
    @iamdanielwray8940 3 года назад +1

    I love the way he answered those questions. He real!

  • @mrconcept
    @mrconcept 10 лет назад +26

    Get him on Pensados place.

  • @ksimokovich0312
    @ksimokovich0312 10 лет назад +2

    27:14 ~"What your here is getting in the habit of learning." Truest statement about the entire industry in a while.

  • @dab7963
    @dab7963 7 лет назад

    Phil Tan is modest and kind. I really enjoyed watching him. He is open and honest and sincere and I believe that his emotion probably translates into his mixing. I would enjoy hearing more of his work. What a great video.

  • @11TwentyThreePM
    @11TwentyThreePM 11 лет назад +1

    He seems like a very humble dude. Good to hear a real engineer speak about 'sound selection' and show that sometimes less is more! Shout out to Phil Tan!!

  • @KonoplevAndrew
    @KonoplevAndrew 11 лет назад

    full sail university, thank you for sharing this)

  • @Kydnice
    @Kydnice 11 лет назад

    Thank you Full Sail & Thanks to Phil for this lecture . Great advice. #FullSailAlumni

  • @madnuts123
    @madnuts123 10 лет назад

    Thanks for the quality uploads)))

  • @theericbeaty
    @theericbeaty 7 лет назад

    It's so nice to finally hear someone say there's no right or wrong, just as long as you're not clipping and the mix still sounds good.

  • @semimotomusic
    @semimotomusic 11 лет назад

    Pretty cool video. I enjoyed seeing producers and engineers break down there song and answer questions. Hope to see more soon.

  • @AlessandroPitus
    @AlessandroPitus 10 лет назад +1

    "I never graduated". Love this man :)

  • @SoundToyzAreUs
    @SoundToyzAreUs 11 лет назад

    WOW! Thanks for posting this!

  • @Harrysound
    @Harrysound 10 лет назад +6

    Lots of great stuff here , I like this guy....

  • @WorldSoulExotica
    @WorldSoulExotica 11 лет назад +1

    I truly appreciate watching video of individuals in the industry who are so down to earth, genuine, and full of humility it's a beautiful thing, Very nicely done
    WorldSoulExotica

  • @mixey01
    @mixey01 11 лет назад

    This man is a legend. Thanks Full Sail!!

  • @jparkhku
    @jparkhku 7 лет назад

    Candid and straightforward talk

  • @1masterfader
    @1masterfader 11 лет назад +1

    Ya got to let the music tell you what it needs". I loved it when he said that. I live by that rule.

  • @charmister
    @charmister 10 лет назад +5

    48:40 when the student asks whether he has his speakers loud during mixing phil says, "you and me can have a conversation," and the student responds, "sorry," not realizing he answered the question

    • @sebaba001
      @sebaba001 10 лет назад +2

      drgdrf
      that's it's not that loud when he mixes and he can actually talk with other people while mixing, it is at a conversational level or barely above it

  • @MarvinSmile132
    @MarvinSmile132 11 лет назад

    Phil Tan seminar was awesome at the Full Sail Hall of Fame. He is so humble and the real deal.

  • @SoundreplayStudio
    @SoundreplayStudio 11 лет назад +1

    Great lecture with honest answers. Main message for me: create your own sound, and practice a lot...respect.

  • @thimzity
    @thimzity 10 лет назад

    Thanks for sharing this, great stuf!

  • @themarinect
    @themarinect 7 лет назад

    He seems like a laid back, down to earth person. I like it.

  • @Tryggvasson
    @Tryggvasson 11 лет назад

    This guy is great! I love his common sense approach his simplicity, and his modesty and I actually think he means it.
    I wish he'd shared more case specific problem solving examples, especially with tegard to eq.

  • @GweeGwee
    @GweeGwee 11 лет назад

    this guy is great. you can tell he loves doing what he's doing. hope i can continue getting my mixing skills up

  • @wholewheat3132
    @wholewheat3132 10 лет назад

    This is a pretty honest interview you can tell he has not been exposed or very interested in mixing in that sort of technical aspect, it shows that it really is all selective hearing and making the right decisions, though he is withholding some kind of information but I felt it may be info we already know but just haven't mastered, he really did seem honest about most of the things.

  • @alexanderqvarnstrom
    @alexanderqvarnstrom 11 лет назад

    Such a humble guy. With a great producer, mixing can be a really delicate thing. This guy listens, doesn't just mix for the sake of it...

  • @AndrewFerrisOnline
    @AndrewFerrisOnline 11 лет назад

    This is really useful, thanks!

  • @soloj100
    @soloj100 11 лет назад

    I love the fact that he tells it like it is, and not sugar coat it.

  • @m.p.958
    @m.p.958 10 лет назад

    Thanks for this nice video !

  • @realjamaicanjones
    @realjamaicanjones 11 лет назад

    Surprisingly enough, your'e not the first to have told me something of that sort. I'm actually reconsidering it now. Thanks much.

  • @YosuaSimanjuntak
    @YosuaSimanjuntak 11 лет назад

    Thnaks for sharing this video..

  • @Channel-vu9jx
    @Channel-vu9jx 11 лет назад

    Thnaks for sharing this video

  • @ieroen
    @ieroen 10 лет назад

    What a modest, soft spoken fellow. Pleasant guy all the way.

  • @Digiphex
    @Digiphex 9 лет назад +13

    Wow the engineer who mixed Prince just got fired.

  • @ElectricGospel
    @ElectricGospel 11 лет назад

    That was a great Q & A bro. Thanks much #InJesusName

  • @AtTheAlex
    @AtTheAlex 11 лет назад

    This guy is a big inspiration. I hope to be where he's at one day and to have his knowledge as well.

  • @bigtizzo
    @bigtizzo 11 лет назад

    I like seeing people who are willing to give seminars like this. These students are hungry for information. So you can't fault them for asking what people may see as stupid questions. But no matter what you learn... it's what your ear has to offer that determines how good your mix becomes. Listen and don't be afraid to experiment.

  • @Daycomb
    @Daycomb 10 лет назад

    So good!

  • @Tx66
    @Tx66 9 лет назад

    I absolutely love this guy.

  • @shavemangin
    @shavemangin 11 лет назад

    what a humble awesome guy!

  • @guinessbeer
    @guinessbeer Год назад +1

    One of Rihanna’s best songs.

  • @alvinfrazierTV
    @alvinfrazierTV 11 лет назад

    I enjoyed that immensely.

  • @MyLoMein
    @MyLoMein 11 лет назад

    this guy is thaaa man!!

  • @theDrumkilla
    @theDrumkilla 10 лет назад

    The host John Yandell is the shit! Great video. Thanks!

  • @ExtraDomus
    @ExtraDomus 9 лет назад +25

    I like how he never answers the question

    • @futurebeats898
      @futurebeats898 7 лет назад

      well... it depends again... !

    • @macoygunida
      @macoygunida 7 лет назад

      sounds like autism. and when an autistic person likes something he's really really good at it just like this guy.

    • @SubscribersWithoutAnySubscribe
      @SubscribersWithoutAnySubscribe 4 года назад

      @Beeblebrox One Well yes and no, it really depends

  • @alexspartacus
    @alexspartacus 10 лет назад

    They should definitely have a screening for these questions.

  • @michaelkhan
    @michaelkhan 11 лет назад

    phil tan da man

  • @JamSlam007
    @JamSlam007 11 лет назад

    Great video. I would have appreciated some more tips ON the actual session!

  • @LanceCampeau
    @LanceCampeau 10 лет назад +3

    He's right about the Prince track... it is full of clipping... but the vibe of the that song has an early Kravitz or White Stripes kind of sound to it... lots of dirty audio. That type of recording and mixing gives the track a more "live session" feel even though it is quite sonically harsh to listen to.

  • @shaqloco7671
    @shaqloco7671 9 лет назад

    I knew he'd say Atlanta. That's where I'm from and it's a lot of diversity.

  • @matthewshell
    @matthewshell 11 лет назад

    It's all about getting in the habit of continual improvement. A very inspiring tutorial.

  • @wherewascharlie
    @wherewascharlie 11 лет назад

    what a friggin nice guy!!

  • @GettingliveTV
    @GettingliveTV 10 лет назад

    Awesome

  • @tiscayea5000
    @tiscayea5000 7 лет назад +1

    38:42 Tan throws some serious shots at Dr. Dre lol

  • @punchline3nt
    @punchline3nt 11 лет назад

    i look up to this guy

  • @07kdrums
    @07kdrums 11 лет назад

    I like this guy...

  • @SiennaLine
    @SiennaLine 9 лет назад +1

    very good...

  • @vlissblisskiss
    @vlissblisskiss 4 года назад

    that opening humble flex

  • @MrEncosto
    @MrEncosto 9 лет назад +1

    Listen to what Phil says at 48:17 about Prince's 'Screwdriver' song, it really is terribly mixed I was mind blown.

  • @charlespettingle2156
    @charlespettingle2156 7 лет назад

    awesome

  • @diegomendivil7101
    @diegomendivil7101 9 лет назад +2

    This guy did not answer a single direct question!

  • @LeeDaHitman
    @LeeDaHitman 11 лет назад

    very true

  • @Son0fEL
    @Son0fEL 11 лет назад

    I would nearly 100% agree.I have found there are multiple ways of obtaining the "sound" that you want and none of them are "wrong", just better than others. But after attending the "SHKU" I found I still lacked a lot of the skills and understanding more so, on why you would do something the way it was portrayed in a youtube video. Being taught in person by multiple people that know what they are doing, is still, in my opinion very much worth it. And no I'm not broke ;)

  • @in.miscare
    @in.miscare 10 лет назад +4

    Pretty ironic talking about clipping in mixes with PA mix going into feedback from time to time and clipping audio out from PT...

  • @derekonlinenow777
    @derekonlinenow777 11 лет назад

    hard work pays off. here's an example

  • @onetoughbabe
    @onetoughbabe 10 лет назад

    excellent

  • @kenyenmusic7548
    @kenyenmusic7548 8 лет назад +6

    "a lot of musicians tend to be night owls"
    ...as i'm watching this at 5:15 am in the morning and haven't slept yet xD

  • @ironik4400
    @ironik4400 8 лет назад +8

    Honestly, I think the clipping was intentional. It gives it kind of a grungy sound. i dont think Prince would have put anything out that terribly mixed unless he wanted it that way. Remember.. Nobody plays Prince, if they think they are theyre really playing themselves :) RIP

    • @3houseco250
      @3houseco250 8 лет назад

      God bless the ending of this comment. I miss him :(

    • @witheredmedia
      @witheredmedia 8 лет назад

      CLIPPING CAN DAMAGE SPEAKERS YOU POOP

  • @AudioLabbStudios
    @AudioLabbStudios 11 лет назад

    I like the idea about eartraining and taste cuz it true about we all have some of the tools the pros use

  • @PhilipZilfo
    @PhilipZilfo 10 лет назад +2

    The entire seminar went by with all these ambiguous questions receiving even more ambiguous answer... Of course.. That is the nature of mixing.. It's very subjective and if you ask very non-specific questions, you will get non-specific answers.. That's why it's so important to know what questions you should be asking when you have a seasoned professional available to you for an hour... But you'd think after the hour was done, he could have at least given us something like, "craziest story? Well this one time I walked into the mixing room and three of the backing singers were blowing my colleague, the studio manager was banging the bassoon player in the corner and old Jim was filming the whole thing while waxing his carrot!" Looool now that would have sent everybody off with a smile hahahaha

  • @AeroplaneDope
    @AeroplaneDope 11 лет назад

    It doesn't matter how good or bad this guy is at his job, it's not the 'engineered' sound that sells the record, it's the marketing.

  • @KEZOSON
    @KEZOSON 11 лет назад

    didnt really learn much
    but it was really cool to watch

  • @setsuro.splice
    @setsuro.splice 10 лет назад

    Thanks! :D

  • @ElijahBeale
    @ElijahBeale 11 лет назад

    This guy seems really cool.

  • @JimmyWestra
    @JimmyWestra 8 лет назад +5

    I learned one thing , that I'm ahead of my time. I already do what this guy does.

    • @Supernovabrown1
      @Supernovabrown1 8 лет назад

      Damn Jimmy, you just got played SON, Bwwwwaaaaaahhaahhaaaa

    • @JimmyWestra
      @JimmyWestra 8 лет назад

      i am getting played Blackblack you been Hit From Behind jimmywestra and it's not even mastered yet.

    • @ChrisValle321
      @ChrisValle321 8 лет назад

      If you already do what this guy does you would actually be BEHIND your time. Music isn't about doing what the other guy is doing, it's about creating your own sound that makes you as an artist stand out.

    • @JimmyWestra
      @JimmyWestra 8 лет назад

      Which makes you ahead correct? Well Chris show me what you got and I 'lll place you exactly amongst the one category you want to be so you may belong.

    • @ChrisValle321
      @ChrisValle321 8 лет назад

      Jimmy Westra​ Which is why you'll never stand out or make it. You're talking about belonging, while I'm talking standing out and originating.

  • @TwinjoEnt
    @TwinjoEnt 11 лет назад

    This gut is so real about the this industry. It is a very wierd to make money in this industry. There are alotta lesson to learn in this industry. There will be a lot of bad business deals as an industry but it will teach you how how to build the right relationships and become a valuable asset. These are important things, but the most important thing is to perfect your craft and learn as much as you can to make sure your clients are getting the best product at the end of the day.

  • @summerlakes5045
    @summerlakes5045 7 лет назад

    "it depends" *can always* be an answer when it comes to mixing.
    But that doesn't mean it's the *only* answer.
    I'm sure Phil is a very talented mixing engineer.
    Some people just aren't great at sharing information.

  • @recordedbybrandon
    @recordedbybrandon 3 года назад

    I was hoping he'd say what gear he uses! Lol he avoided that one 🤣!

  • @jacquesdemolaymolay4453
    @jacquesdemolaymolay4453 9 лет назад +12

    Everything you learn about audio engineering, take it with a grain of salt.

  • @soloj100
    @soloj100 11 лет назад

    its really the best answer, and you just got to find out the area or room the music should sound like its in.....

  • @christopherdecastro8713
    @christopherdecastro8713 9 лет назад

    There are no rules to engineering..just guidelines.
    Now please, to the people who say he doesn't answer the questions, find your own unique method.

  • @marcuspee93
    @marcuspee93 10 лет назад

    really interesting how its probably a workshop or something for audio people, yet the headset was not placed at the right position on Phil's face, the wedges or FOH was hot enough that it was ringing, almost feeding back like almost all the time. Last I checked attention to detail was needed in the audio industry

  • @PressPlayProductions1
    @PressPlayProductions1 11 лет назад

    @Treibsandtv you are totally right!!

  • @CKDrumsInc
    @CKDrumsInc 6 лет назад

    I wanted to see him take apart the mix, students ask the same questions over and over..

  • @kbyer
    @kbyer 11 лет назад

    I wish that the students asked more questions about the session and techniques used etc.

  • @Zickcermacity
    @Zickcermacity 10 лет назад +1

    Misleading title - whole video is basically an interview of an audio school grad with advice to future grads on technique & interpersonal skill.
    Not what I came here for.

  • @manifestgtr
    @manifestgtr 10 лет назад +3

    hahah this guy really does live in a box, thinking a high pass on everything might be a unique thing he does...
    he does seem like a really nice guy though...and I think the reason all the specific questions aren't getting specific answers is that there aren't too many black and whites in audio...and most of those black and whites are things that you already know (ie the high pass)

  • @ChampagneRhubarb
    @ChampagneRhubarb 11 лет назад

    Obviously whoever worked with the audio on this video wasn't listening when Phil explained about high pass filters... nice one.

  • @DjKingMorice
    @DjKingMorice 8 лет назад +2

    Why is the audio of the playback so distorted?