USS Enterprise A Star Trek Beyond Analysis
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This is an analysis of the USS Enterprise NCC-1701-A from Star Trek Beyond. It includes:
Design
Context
Random stuff I put in for reasons I do not know
Pseudo academic discussion on... eh, whatever
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USS Enterprise A Star Trek Beyond Analysis 2016
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It looks like they left the Enterprise in the microwave too long, and it melted a little.
Enterprise was destroyed so quickly in that film, I didn't even realize there had been changes.
Pp 0
Picard season 2 episode 1 gave it a run for its money with destroying the new Stargazer, it's like they are racing each other to see how fast they can blow up these amazing ships that we would all rather not see get blown up
@@adcraziness1501 It's like a "trope" now that you mention it. Enterprise "C" met a similar fate, for another example.
@@misterlyle. When they blew up the 1701 in the "prime" universe over the Genesis planet, it meant something. It was a sacrifice and the moment weighed heavy on us all. The music was appropriate and they gave the scene the time it deserved. With these other ships, it's like a statement they are making, and it began with "There are plenty of letters left in the alphabet" - the only other starship destruction scene with any emotional impact was the Yamato in TNG and the Solvang in Lower Decks. I have to say seeing the brand new Stargazer destroyed was an impact, but not the one they were hoping for. It was a huge disappointment. This was the Stargazer II, and Picard blew it up without so much as a whole episode. Oh well. Plenty of letters left in the alphabet, I guess. EDIT: I wrote this and then sat and thought a minute. There were some notable starship destructions, like the USS Europa in Discovery and the USS Odyssey in DS9, but these were death by combat; glorious. Different vibe. Tragic, but not the same vibe as a senseless sacrifice. The Solvang's destruction was understated, we watched it happen as our jaws dropped.
@@adcraziness1501 Thank you for the reply. I think you are noticing something important that hopefully will not become a pattern for Star Trek going forward. A audience that is disappointed will begin to fade away.
I honestly hate this one's pylons, too large
And since I'm refit biased, it would look better if the pylons were angled backward and the nacelles were moved forward
The nacelles are always way to close together when seen from above. The primary hull is ok. But the rest from the neck to the shuttle bay is an abomination.
It’s a prototype designe the enterprise A but in the movie it’s smaller
It's pretty fugly. Refit was the best look.
So you really want to remake the enterprise d
It also has a fat, squat neck. In profile, it's downright ugly.
I really liked the 2009 enterprise design. The over sized warp nacelles made the ship look like it was built for speed
Your reflections on various ships/other aspects of Trekdom, canonical or otherwise, being me much joy in a cold, dark, largely empty cosmos. Welcome back, please don't leave ever again.
I like your depressing poetry. You can speak at my funeral.
"Could they possibly make it any uglier?"
Hold my tricorder.
You green blooded cyborg.
It is an ugly ship
@@nikvolt8298 yeah not really
@@IchigoKurosakicool Really
@@IchigoKurosakicool Yeah, really really. Bad ship design, from a bad movie.
You lost me when you said that you didn't like the "E" design.
Apart from he didn’t say he didn’t like it.
But you’re the mind reader what do I know
Well, the E is a garbage design.
@@tonycrabtree3416 needs more neck.
@@tonycrabtree3416 Could you explain why? I'm genuinely curious. I love the Sovereign class, far more than any Kelvin timeline design, so i'd love to hear what design features makes you dislike the E so much.
@@theincrediblefox It is too pretty, which makes it look like a video game design. The D pushed those limits, itself.
I'm sorry I have to disagree with you on one point. The Enterprise E is SWEET!!! and the reboot ships just don't do much for me in any version they have displayed so far. The reboot Enterprise has just started out to large, it is as big as a Galaxy class starship and the nacelles are just to large the reboot ship looks like it is going to tip backwards. Don't get me wrong I don't hate it or even dislike the reboot Enterprise in all it's forms but the but the Enterprise A, B and E are the best ones they just flow much better. I have enjoyed your post though. Thank you very much!!
Alonzo Holloway honestly why does the size matter its a fucking starship its gonna be huge either way people bitch about its size way too much
@@AWAP_MAOA First was the cursing really necessary? As far as the size of the ship yes it does make a difference. Did aircraft carriers start out as large as the Nimitz or Ford class? No they didn't as necessity arose and tech increased they got larger. But let's just take size out of the equation, The Abrams reboot ships are hideous compared to the Original, A, B and especially E. The ships act like they don't have shields but more like polarized hull plating, you breath on them and they have hull breaches. The designers are going in the wrong direction with the designs, but that is just my opinion. Don't get me wrong I don't hate them but I strongly prefer the others over the Abramsverse ships.
I'll disagree with that that 2009 ryan church design is more bigger and advance in warp core and weapons and the impulse drive.
@Dark Sith Lord The redesign was necessary. They were bringing the in-movie technology up to date with a more modern and digital vision of future technology instead of the clunky 60s retro-tech with hypnotic screens, blinky lights, and twirly doo-dads. The old style may be classic, but it would simply look out-dated and cheesy in a modern movie.
Yes the E was awesome!! And of course Pacard had to trash it! He's no good with starships in all the next gen movies!
The best Enterprises were the TMP refit, and the first 1701A. You can't tell me that even the most modern CGI looks better than the models in the original movies, particularly ST6. Those 2 Enterprise look elegant and majestic. The 2 new ones look about as good as the Baywatch reboot.
Yes, Andrew Probert designed the best ships
1979 Refit is perfection. Too bad the JJ films were not made for Star Trek fans.
The refit enterprise is one of the best ships on all of science fiction. Perfectly balanced and elegant.
@@kyle857 Ew, no. The nacelles are way too tiny, and while the rest of the ship is all about arcs and circles, the nacelles are weirdly rectilinear. They don't jibe with the rest of the design language.
It's far from the ugliest enterprise. In fact, it's a close 2nd behind the TOS Enterprise. No, ugliest Enterprise goes to the TNG Enterprise. Giant oblong wider than longer head on a skinny tetrahedral-is neck attached to a soap-bar body. And throw in some stunted Sharpies for nacelles. And just when you think it can't get uglier, separate the saucer and watch it fly around headless. holy F*CK.
@@manuel_k791 JJ claims that those timeline ships are so much bigger as a result of the Nero/Borgish-ship incursion, so they'd be ready for big-ass enemies. But that doesn't explain why the USS Kelvin was also such a monster-sized ship.
E is best enterprise. It starts with E for starters.
D is best. no homo!
Enterprise E is a palindrome.
@@squattingheads Grow up
B is best
Sorry the enterprise e is just to small and to slow for warp 9.985 but transwarp is faster
One thing I did like about the new “A” was that the warp nacelles were spaced further apart. The 2009 version they were just too close. Didn’t look right.
To me, the Enterprise TMP refit is the best, and I saw nothing wrong with it, and I think it could have translated well to the big screen again with a few tweaks. I own every Enterprise model except the JJPrise. It's not the Enterprise, and never will be in my opinion.
OK, I’m three years late to the party, but a few tweaks! A few tweaks?! That’s blasphemy! 🖖😀
sane with me, that abomination should not defiles my collections
Something that struck me is how the Enterprise in the Abrams movies is ALWAYS getting its ass kicked. It never gets to be seen dishing out a beating like the original and TNG Enterprises, which makes it seem oversized but weak.
That's because that's so-called alternate universe that again a so-called director by the name of JJ Abrams had put in a film was a pile of garbage. Just like the JJ Abrams universe!
My friend, you probably haven't watched this
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The reboot Enterprise can also dish out a beating
@@deviantjam7428And yet it never does. Can doesn't mean shit if it never does.
@@bencruz563So, it wasn’t blowing apart pieces of the Narada as it got sucked into the black hole? Sit down special needs kid.
Actually there is one part I wanted to mention: The size of the ship has been a longstanding misunderstanding by fans who looked at a concept sketch which showed how big the original Enterprise is compared to the Kelvin timeline. That same image also featured a comparison of how big a Kelvin timeline EQUIVALENT of the Enterprise E would be. They used the 2009 Enterprise to illustrate it, so it confused many fans, but it was only intended to be symbolic. So basically if a story was told about a Kelvin timeline's Enterprise E in the future, it would be slightly larger than the Enterprise E of the normal timeline, just like the 2009 Enterprise is only slightly larger than the original Enterprise. You can see that by the size of the dockworkers standing on the ship. This new vessel would only be slightly larger than the original Enterprise A. You can also get an idea of its size from when Kirk is seen running through the halls of the ship while it's being punctured but those bees.
On a side note, this ship has actually grown on me a lot and I wish they'd make another movie or at least a solid online game featuring it.
I definitely agree with you on that. The fact that we might not get another movie with this ship is criminal and disappointing.
thats a good explenation but i wouldn|t min if it had been 600m long. That would have just shown that the Kelvin Timeline Starfleet is more militaristic than the Prime one. I find it kind of sad that today, new Star Trek Ideas are beeing canceled and hated only because they are not Voyager and TNG. Really shows how intollerant some Trekkies can be. But maybe in like 20-30 Years there can be new without complaining
except that doesn't work anymore as there has been numerous account that the design WAS meant to be same size as the OG enterprise but mystery box abrahms wanted it bigger. this is why you see constant scaling jumps from windows being as initially designed to massively shrunk down or the engineering being that massive while also having a seemingly cavernous taking up the entire secondary hull shuttle bay
@@MikePhantomoh well, been happening for decades in the franchise.
Sorry, but the original refit Enterprise is the sexiest starship design.
Absolutely. I wish they had brought it back.
Cannot agree more...refit constitution is the best design from TMP. Just exudes forward motion and warp speed. Love from ST II and III the warp flybys, especially when Genesis begins
I dunno, the Akira, classic Bird of Prey and the Nova class are pretty damn great looking aswell.
Was always a fan of the K'tinga class for some reason... a warship in the raw. The bird of prey was more of a raider/scout whereas the D-7 and K'tinga were, in their time, the true Klingon ships of the battle line (i.e. those that would be most involved in fleet actions...the bird of prey classes of the time were comparatively small).
Refit enterprise is the most beautiful ship from any science fiction series ever. I don't care much for this new design.
Always glad to see another trek vid here.
The nacelle pylons make this ship look like it's wearing underpants.
Better than going commando?
nothing is better than going commando
I'm gonna miss the 2009 nacels. I think they looked awesome! And I liked them big. Smaller nacels make the engines look less powerful and somewhat odd in my opinion (a bit like comparing modern airliners with their huge turbofans compared to older turbojet powered airliners).
10:07 sums up exactly how I've felt about the movies so far. I never got to watch TOS when it was on, wasn't even born then, but watching it decades after and seeing Kirk bluff every attempt to blow up the ship and then in finally doing it in 'Search For Spock' really sets the "emotional bar" pretty high. In the new movies, the writers are like "meh, how are we going to destroy this ship this time?" Even 'Generations' could give you a few sniffles because it was literally the final execution of the Enterprise D.
The same thing has been done in Bayformers, all but one movie has killed or nearly killed Optimus Prime, it was a big thing in the original animated movie, but now it's just like they think we actually care about the character and that killing him repeatedly will elicit an emotion.
I'm enjoying the new movies, but the designers and writers are taking too many liberties with the plots and the look of things. I mean come on, it was the 50th anniversary of Star Trek and they didn't have Klingons? Yeah, I'm now in agreement the writers don't know what Star Trek is.
Welcome Back. I'm going to go and binge all your other videos again for like the 100th time now.
Oh, man. Good luck with that. I cringe when I think about some of the older videos.
I find pretty much all of them enjoyable. 10/10, still watch randomly.
Until first contact, losing an Enterprise was losing a major character. You really felt it in Search for Spock, and it was quite gut-wrenching in Generations. After that, it felt like it was just "a ship" and I never felt like the characters were particularly attached to it or took any particular pride in it. That really bothered me.
It's crazy how much I enjoy these. Awkwardly hid from my family just to watch. Please keep up the good work.
What a coincidence. I awkwardly hid for my family to make it. =)
Hey?! What's wrong with the Enterprise E?! It's the best of the lot!
I know I like E
It's the best looking Enterprise. Definitely the sleekest with the best lines.
Yep, the sovereign class is the best, most badass.
Yeah, E-class is the best. New Enterprises suck
E is a beast
i cried when i got the notification that you uploaded ITS BEEN SO LONG WHY
Aw, cool. I like making people cry. =)
Great presentation-
Detailed analysis and well informed.
You bring awareness to subtle issues and present info in an accessible manner.
Thanks
Holy shit you're alive
The 2009 Church design is the best. You nailed it when u said it had presence. I loved that they went with the bigger nacelles and I'm disappointed they are making them proportionately smaller.
Pleeeeeeaaaasssssseeeee make more. Welcome back btw. Set up a patreon thing and we can fund ur crazy observations 🖖🏻
I can't take money from people. I should be paying them for putting up with the random sh*t I throw into these videos.
no you will set up a patreon so we can donte :p
True, i was just trying to bribe you with other peoples money ;) Seriously glad ur back -I benefited massively from your "therapy". thank you. LLAP
Random Sh*t? Nay sir, I say nay. There are few commentary aficionados wandering this great expanse of what we might call the 'Star Trek Narrative' who play comfortably in that zone between the vast (and often contradictory) fictional storylines, and the real-world mechanics of creating props and effects for a TV show or movies. Both are integral to each other, and your commentaries address this effortlessly. Doing so with a free-associatively irreverent sense of humor just makes it that much better.
At the root of it all, things have to make a certain degree of sense. Ray Bradbury (as many authors agree) pointed out you can create any zany universe you want with whatever rules of reality you can dream up, but once you create those rules of reality you have to abide by them. TV shows and movies exist in our reality, physically created with our budgets and technology, but they depict a narrative that may have to justify or explain what we physically see. i.e., why do Klingons have bumpy foreheads? In the '60s Roddenberry *wanted* what the budget couldn't deliver, so the 'shoe-polish Fu Manchu' had to do. Come the Motion Picture, NOW there was some money to play with, and we got some seriously funky, alien-looking Klingons. Why were they different? Roddenberry simply indicated that, for all intents and purposes, they'd *always* looked like that. If you simply imagine the 60s Klingons with their own turtles on their heads, the narrative makes sense.
But when the writers began acknowledging the difference, it created a difference where none needed to exist. And once created... oy vay. The convoluted, strained 'explanations' wove into the narrative, and the more they 'explained' the more awkward it got. I love the fact that you examine countless little details in the artist/design reality and connect them to countless other little details in the fictional narrative. There's no critique or pointing out inconsistencies - that's unnecessary and irrelevant. (And we have enough of that anyway.) You work your own patient, curious and eminently fascinating bailiwick. And I, for one, really appreciate the care and the attention you pour into these.
Yes. When DS9 acknowledged how TOS Klingons looked different with Worf saying it was something he didn't want to talk about, that was the perfect way to handle it. W didn't need some convoluted explanation. Fiction is great because you can shape and reshape whenever you need to. Things get tedious when new creative teams decide to explain trivial inconsistencies. It's the equivalent of narrative housekeeping.
Thanks for the compliment. You sound smart. Can I eat your brain?
I clicked on this because of the thumbnail - accidental or not, that clock placement is absolutely perfect.
You HAVE TO do one about THE Discovery
I'd say wait until the show is actually out, but there might be no Discovery tv show after all.
When will that show be out
Agreed.
That's the question, the release date was pushed back two times and now they're saying the show will be out when it is ready. Fans speculate it'll be out in late fall this year, but I think early next year or spring would be more realistic.
StarTrekMarco just hope it's good I have real doubts on the show with looking at the ship model but we need this to work we need new Star Trek on tv
OH MY GOD YESH
An analysis video has made my entire week . NO MONTH , A lot better.
Gee, thanks. Hope all the random weird stuff wasn't too distracting.
Well, we won't know much more about the JJ verse since thank God that catastrophe is being canned.
The Enterprise E looks better than any ship in the Abramsverse
Well the Kelvin timeline is dead since they lost Kirk and Papa Kirk.
Most of all, they lost most of their audience.
the "Kelvin timeline" was born dead.
Huh? Kirk is still alive at the end of Beyond. He didn't die?
@@HOTD108_ Chris Pine and Hemsworth couldn’t agree on the salary for Star Trek Daddy Issues (or whatever it was going to be called). Star Trek was Hemsworth’s first movie and now he’s a major star. Pine has been in some noteworthy things as well. So it came down to money, they wanted more, Paramount couldn’t pay, so no more Kelvin timeline Trek. That’ll all be in books now.
good riddance.
Your videos are fantastic. What I love is that they are fully produced with editing gags and no dead air. When others discuss these things in front of the camera for 30 minutes with simple picture-in-picture overlays, it's not nearly as effective as what you do.
Thanks. I enjoy producing videos the way I do. It's a lengthy, laborious process but it's worth it. When it comes down to it, a lot of the nuanced details and trivia in these videos are pretty tedious to rifle through so I I try to punctuate them with random stuff. It keeps the pace moving... at least that's the goal.
FINALLY you're back :D, are you planning on making other videos?
Yes. I've got a video from last year that I nearly finished but didn't publish. I'm also toying with the idea of putting out video podcasts Star Trek Discovery. Video podcasts are easy and quick to produce, so that can fill the gap between these retrospective/analysis videos that are much more time consuming to produce.
That sounds great!
As a Star Trek and Star Wars fan, I would just like to say that the NCC 17 is Iconic and perfect in every way. however I have serious reservations about the new series of course I will give them a chance to win me over but I will pull no punches. It better be good! or CBS can just go hang out with Sony for now on. so if it sucks they're going to be in deep doo-doo even if it's just kind of all right like Enterprise was. Witch hardcore fans like me put up with. put up with because it still was the only Star Trek available but now times have changed and we have fan films that are getting pretty good. if you do that podcast I might be interested in participating. I'm a Star Warecking. and yes it is Yoda Dark Side spelled backwards how astute of you. :-) LOL like your videos keep them up :-)
Love your videos, good sir. Informative, geeky, funny and well-produced! Keep it up.
Glad to see you back.
Holy crap man...i just started watching you last day or so ands i must say the amount of knowledge you have, the presentation, the wit and random stuff all mixed in makes this one of my top 5 channels now. WOOOO!!
What I find funny is that they continue to make the ship uglier in every rendition so far in the Kelvin timeline.
I think it's looking better and better
Olliekay i agree the kelivin timeline gets way too much hate. Imo the starships have never looked better not saying the ogs look bad at all just the reimagined ones look nicer
The ship look better
I don't think they're trash, for example, the 2009 Enterprise would have been a perfect Enterprise B.. a good transition from TOS to TNG.. I hated the excelsior class.. this 2016 purely sucks like STD show does... I do like the STD Enterprise... Looks sharp..
Yes. I didn't mind the 2009 one but this one looks like skinny legs and a butthole ready to poop from the back. Once you see it you can never unsee it.
So glad your back. Keep it coming.
Yesssss! I have waited so long for another video
Just got into your vids during the last week. Good to see you're starting new vids again!
Thanks. I'm glad the old videos are still getting seen. Correction: Glad that *some* of them are still getting seen. Others I have to purposely shield my eyes from their thumbnails in my video manager because they're so cringe-worthy.
OMG GOD ANSWERED MY PRAYERS YAAAAAAY He's back
You were praying for a obsessive compulsive video about the new Enterprise A? Glad to deliver. (and I thought I had problems.) But seriously, thanks. It's good to be back.
Nope just praying you didn't abandon your channel XD
This is an awesome channel. Please keep making stuff!
Who didn't appreciate the BUDWISER BREWING FACTORY interior design !
I now like the looks of the reboot ships when i saw those ships in Discovery
@ 7:30 OMG the little Stuffy Enterprise!!!
I like the 2009 version better then 2016 don't you agree guys
Yes, Very.
Both are hideous bastardizations of a classic.
For a number of reasons yes.
They look literally tge same with very minor tweeks but i like both alot
Rachelle Ezell i
Great to see you again! Thanks for all the fun videos
I hope they reconsider the design if they make another movie. Its just as bad as the 2009 JJprise, but for different reasons. I agree that they rushed to reveal the A in Beyond, it was completely unnecessary and a bad decision.
"completely unnecessary and a bad idea" you just described the start trek reboot and those god awful new star wars movies
Exile Studios
What was a bad idea was Insurrection, Nemesis, Star Trek: Enterprise. If you think the new ST movies are bad then what do we call those piss soaked, donkey turds?
hey at least enterprise tried (in its last 2 seasons) it took 2 movies for this new crap to finally get good and it only improved because they hired a writer who was actually a fan of the franchise (unlike jj who always preferred star wars) and a director who actually knew how to direct action scenes (again unlike jj) they only thing the kept was the composer who was the only good thing about the first 2 (and rouge one) hell i hate those movies and i still bought the sound tracks to them. anyway to answer your question we call the movies you mentioned horrid abominations and enterprise a wasted opportunity (with one hell of a good looking ship)
JagsFan '95
I’d rather see someone trying to continue star trek, and fail
rather than see someone shit all over it and lobotomize it
They can't make another movie, sadly Anton Yelchin who is the actor of Chekov died in June of 2016.
I am so glad to see you're back to posting videos. Love your stuff.
The only bigger mess than JJTrek is Discovery...
Nothing is ever good enough is it. Why even try it's just constant bitching the exact same shit happens with star wars. You're all one in the same. Nobody ever likes anything.
DUDE YOU'RE BACK!
We've all missed you!
Wait you still exist?
I certainly hope so. Otherwise, I should be collecting my own life insurance.
Junkball Media how about a voyager analysis
I am so glad you're back. Never scare me like that again.
he's back!
This was great, I commando to do more. I didn’t hunk their were any changes so I’m glad I watched this and saw the differences
Junkball media...oh how I've missed you!
I only discovered your channel last week and here you are back!!! So good to see you return man.
Cool. Thanks for subbing even though the channel was dormant.
Enterprise E was/is THEE best looking and most beautiful aesthetically.
Even though they couldn't remember how many decks it had. 24/26
Glad you're back!
Hope you're living Long and Prosperous Life
“Engineers love to change things”.
Hollywood loves to hire Hollywood.
The longer they work (or at least pretend to work) the longer they stay on payroll. And, in theory, the more time they have to make a better product.
Well hello there mr trump.
I have that blu-ray set and I got them here in Oklahoma. How did that happen??? Oklahoma Timeline? Glad to hear your voice again and hope the family is all okay.
Chapman Films, you're on my sh*t list until you put that Hot Wheel Enterprise on the track against that RobsRogues red Camero. I know you rig the race so he wins every time. You're not fooling anyone.
O fok lmao
So glad to see you post again
I feel like they copied and pasted the registry number and name from the top of the cosser and put it on the bottom to look unique
Cosser and prymerry
Please continue to keep us informed with your terrific REAL NEWS during these dark times!
Hah! Enterprise E is the best Enterprise.
The sovereign Class is definitely my favourite.
Ambassador, C is the only best Enterprise here.
@@susanatondo5889 it's ugly as sin. Awkward 90degree angled nacelle struts from the secondary hull, odd looking circular deflector dish... it was ugly
no its the enterprise F
@@RichO1701e it is goot but no as good as the enterprise F
In The Wrath of Kahn, on the lower side of the saucer section, you can see both the registry (NCC-1701) and the vessel name (Enterprise) as the ship departs space dock. The vessel name is between the planetary sensor dome and the neck.
I think there's no point in re-desiging the ship if they we're just going to destroy it
they shouldn't have try to redesign the 2009 Enterprise just to try and match it up with the original 1966 Enterprise
the 1966 Enterprise is a classic leave it's design alone.
It literally got destroyed just one time
You've still got it. Glad to have you back.
Thanks. Honestly, a few months ago I was worried I didn't remember how to make a video.
TAKE AND SHOVE THE ENTIRE J.J. ABRAMRAMS TIME LINE .
AS MR. Michael Garibaldi would say shove it out the airlock !!!!!
( Babylon 5 reference ) .
LMAO butthurt big d?
Glad to see you are back if only for a bit love your stuff hope to see more in the future.
I seriously disagree the way this incarnation of the Enteprise-A looks. I'm seriously pissed that they trashed the 2009 Enterprise design for it. The Nacelles & Pylons are just painful the way they look (too tall and square), along with the shape of the engineering hull makes the whole ship have a stout appearance. I find it funny how it looks okay from the front but terrible from the side/rear, while the 2009 Enterprise beats any other Enterprise from the side and would be perfect if it had the Nacelles spaced out a bit while being viewed from the front. Heck, the Sketchfab model you showed at the beginning looks better than the movie product. Honestly can't tell which one i dislike more, the Ent-A or the Beyond Refit (since it suffers from the same problems, except it's super stretched) since both are just don't look good. 2009 Enterprise beats them both.
The Refit Enterprise at the start of beyond is better than this, why couldn't they just had the Nacelles spaced apart a bit more, and without that giraffe height neck and used that as the Enterprise-A? *They literally had no reason to destroy the Enterprise other than to use it as a makeshift plot device* .
Other than that, welcome back!
go ahead and leave me
i think i prefer to stay inside
maybe youll find someone else to help you
maybe black mesa
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Are you implying he's Gordon Freeman returning from Limbo ?
#HalfLife3Confirmed
Yep have to agree. It looked odd in their new warp shots too. Definately preffered the 2009/Khan warp visual even though it couldn't have been anymore incorrect haha.
Sulphurous
Sorry, but you do realize that Beyond is the 3rd movie, right? The original Enterprise refit was destroyed in The Search For Spock, which is also the 3rd movie. The 2009 Enterprise was destroyed because Beyond was acting like an anniversary for The Search for Spock and the destruction of the Kelvin. And the "pointless refit" in Beyond was designed like that because to represent the 1966 design for the 50th anniversary, while the 2009 design was mostly based off the motion picture series. Disagree with me or not, I'm sad as much as you do for The 2009 Enterprise, but that's how the story goes and her time has past. Like the others.
They made it more aerodynamic because space is a vacuum
I hate the 2016 design. I thought the 2009 enterprise look awesome without any flaws.
I got my son the same book! Also I learned a new word today! Look at making things both fun and educational.
I can't get over how poorly Paramount marketed this film and handled the 50th anniversary of the franchise.
Paramount thinks it should be making Star Wars or MCU money from Faux Trek... that was their downfall
And then you have movies like 'Interstellar' making bank while being emotionally moving and intellectually stimulating. I thought 'Beyond' was the most Trek-like of the 3 Kelvin Timeline films. Let's hope we get a fourth installment.
Thanks for making this video man, always get a blast from your work. Hope you're doing great!
That ship is hideous. I like the original 2009 version. Even the version from the beginning of ST: Beyond is different with it's swept back and smaller warp necelles. Unneeded and unnecessary design changes. This new one looks like crap.
Enterprise -A Bridge will be lit up like a Sprint store instead of the last ship that looked like a Apple store .
I don't like either design. They seem overly elegant to me. They lack the design beauty of the Enterprise refit from the Motion picture or the Enterprise D. I wish they would use real models again. They just appeared more realistic to me.
Yah get over it boi
Connie refit was perfection. Too bad the JJ crap wasn't made for star trek fans.
That cut away to German Worf. A++
You Should Do Enterprise A From Star Trek 4-6 and not the one from the new movies that nobody cares for
ok boomer
Welcome back! Loved getting another analysis video with your distinctive style. Hope to see more, if the muse strikes.
I don't like the new enterprise a
Because you hate reboots
@@AmaticXLII no its because the design is shit
Can we get a therapy video about the 2009 Enterprise? It's my favorite
Super mega fugly! Can't we just pretend that the reboots NEVER happened?
Good to see you back again bud , really like your other stuff........
They just keep going backwards with the Enterprise designs...
How?
In the after ST:TOS series tech manuals and models place the phasers on the edge of the saucer at 3 o' clock, 12 o' clock, and 9 o'clock. They're placed in pairs on the top and bottom rim.The torpedo tubes are on the upper side of the saucer, below the name.The old "Star Log" magazine showed an outside drawing of an Enterprise-G!!
I implore you all to watch this with the subtitles on.
Worf in German at 09:35 "is in DUMBO defeatist attitude..."
What the fudge...????
Great to see you back! Love your vids!
Disgusting looking ship and jumping up in size was a pure pisstake.
nigga no
I always enjoy your videos, so your return is welcome! Hope you will continue with more of your fascinating analyses. LLAP Junk Ball Media!
Right back at ya.
No one beats 1979 Refit Enterprise.
What would win? The USS Vengeance from Star Trek Into Darkness, or, the Scimitar from Star Trek Nemesis?
Come on man! The Vengeance!!!
god that ship is fugly.
Remaking a classic shape out of stretched taffy doesn't make it look good :/
it is gold
I think they should've kept the original 1960's design as well as the original timeline. Enterprise did a fine job making that believable that the 1960's Constitution class look more advanced than the Enterprise NX.
I think if they did an "updated" take on the real Enterprise A it would have looked a lot better.
Boh the JJprises were crap and the reboot as done was horrible. and Discorvery will fail as well. CBS and paramount have no clue what the fans want and ignore it when we point it out....or sue.
Revkor
TBH I've seen what some of the so called "fans" want and their shit is just as bad if not worse than what the studios have done.
Also if you pulled your head out of your Trekkie ass long enough you will know that TOS and shows that followed were FAR from perfect.
Nope the onl;y one I have is Beyond and ONLY because it was a gift from my sister in law. It has not been open.. We are brain dead trolls. that is CBS and PAramount.
Revkor What exactly do you guys want out of a Trek movie anyways? Because by all accounts, the reboots are fine movies. They’re objectively well-made and easily enjoyable. So what do you think they should be? A feature-length episode of one of the series? A shot-for-shot remake of the Wrath of Khan? I think the greatest blessing of these movies is that they AREN’T Trek movies. Because if you haven’t noticed, most Trek movies are crap. To me, the change is welcome.