EUROPE'S #1 MAPHACKER - CHEATING TO GRANDMASTER - Starcraft 2
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- Опубликовано: 6 фев 2025
- This is the most blatent Maphacker there is.. A 5800 MMR GM Terran that calls himself Nathanias.
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Lol, so the maphacker lost because he didn't have vision!
The irony is real
You've convinced me, but to make a case, you'll need several replays like this I think. I'd love to see more
Just search in youtube "starcraft2 map hackers" there are several, several videos, on blatant map hackers, not only vision, but macro/micro hacks. 12k apm. 12 fucking k apm.
Ohhhh you mean, to make a case against this particular player... I guess...
At first, I thought the initial push into the natural with sieged tanks was evidence Nathanias wasn't maphacking, but then I kept watching LOL
on a lighter note im glad youre back
A good defense is to make three BC's and let him spent a ton of minerals on turrets in his main, then double back on bio/tanks.
I'm just glad that SC 2 is becoming popular enough again to attract no skill cheating map hackers.
I was playing against some guy named EVO and noticed some 'weirdness' in the replay. In one instance he hoovers over where my units are before a push, mind you in the replay all he 'sees' is the fog of war. In two other instances EVO attacks while my main army is on opposite sides, mind you he did not use scanner sweep to scope out where my army was.
if you upload the replay I can have a look at it :)
Sucks that there are people ruining the game with maphacks, but aside from those Ive never seen really any other hacks used in this game. No godmode units, no unit with speed hacks,infinite resource/supply cap hacks. So I guess in that sense we are lucky compared to other games that have been around for as long as SC2 has. Just wish there was a way to prevent this type of stuff from ruining the ladder.
I wish rather than banning people Blizzard would secretly take hack reports and then just start pairing map hackers with other reported hackers, and they would just continue to play against each other, all while being too damn stupid to realize it
There are split hacks though, they split units for you when for example banelings or disruptors move in.
I'd rather they get banned outright. Team leagues would still be impossible to manage.
the game is run on a server, there is only so much you can do clientside. i believe that its not possible to have godmode etc also those hacks would probably more easy to detect for warden
There's a bit of distortion in your mic, I think you can remedy that by turning down it's volume in windows input devices slightly.
04:24 he does see the marines move out for what its worth.
love this video 👍🏻
Good work Railgan
Best work
Lmao this is so funny cause even with him hacking he’s such a bad player
makes it pretty interesting lmao
I mean, that's why he's hacking xD
That's the psychology of a lot (most?) cheaters, they cheat because they think you do but they are still trash at the basics and they don't understand that.
the only diff between this an ur average gm, is that he's more obvious about it
i can imagine a teenager using a maphack for a few days, or to prank a friend. But to reach 5.8K mmr, even with map hacks, it must take some time, so what is the point of spending weeks doing this? it is clear that he won't gain ainything moneywise, since in a tournament it would get spotted, and progamers would win anyway, so what is there to gain here? He is not even trolling the opponent in chat, how is this fun?
perhaps he sells the account after some point?
Probably so he can brag about his mmr.
I just dont get it. You know that you cheat so you cannot even feel good about beating anyone or any of the plays that you make. Your MMR is meaningless because you had to cheat to get it. Cheating doesnt just ruin it for your opponent, it ruins the game for yourself. How does he even enjoy this? There has to be some kind of cognitive dissidence where you can convince yourself that you accomplished something by doing this.
Same reason people smurf in pretty much any game with a competitive ladder: They get off on ruining your experience and the "fun" of frustrating other players and see them loose. The comments Khodi made in chat are probably part of what people like this look for. They wanna get under your skin.
Cognitive dissonance, but, yes. That's it.
@@Araghos I don't think so... I think maphackers are just people that get FAR too attached to their rank/league/MMR. They become so obsessed with the 'clout' that they feel comes with being diamond or master or GM, that the focus on only that, and nothing else.
The same basic problem plagues tons of players to become frustrated with certain strategies or reasons for losses.
It's the same reason (just to a greater extent) that many players are happy when an enemy quits immediately - even though that just means wasted time and more lost games in future. At least this is my feeling, having spoken to a few.
all map hackers are just lucky... RIP sc2..blizzard care zero.. and the game is free to play..
Lol this shits Hilarious....the commentary had me crying.
What a role model.
Nathanias is secretly a TSR / Admin for Blizzard :)
omegalul 777777 internal hacks
Papagrey is a cheater map hacker too, attacking templars in the middle of map without scanning
Great vid lol
Why hasnt this guy been banned? Because Bliz is a shit company that doesnt really care about the people playing its game.
He also uses the name Hurricane.
Is it the same one Beastyqt played against?
Maphacking is growing in sc2 lately it’s starting to get ridiculous
now you cant git rid of maphackers because sc2 is free
So maphacks are still a thing? I wonder why Blizzard made that possible in the first place. There is no need for a client to receive data that isn't even shown...
For replays. They send commands, and then the client shows it. It makes a lot of things very simple to implement.
If maphacks were made impossible, that would mean that each computer would have to only know what their own units are doing...
That, in turn, paves the way for WAY worse hacks than maphacks - if your computer doesn't know what I have until it visually sees 'X' map location, then my computer can just say 'SURPRISE!!! I have 30 battlecruisers there!'
So you run away from my 30 battlecruisers, and go around into my base... 'SURPRISE, I somehow destroyed my 30 battlecruisers, and built 20 thors and 50 SCVs while you were moving!'
So you back out of my base... 'Surprise! I killed all the thors, built 30 liberators and 20 tanks, and attacked your base with them all in the 10 seconds since you left my thors alone!'
Basically, there's no way for your computer to detect whether the other player is cheating, unless your computer has been keeping track of what they're doing all game.
In fact, forcing each computer to 'sync' to a "real", mutual simulation like this is exactly why this maphacker lost that final engagement in this very video.
(It's also miles easier to program the game the way it currently is - I'm just mentioning why it would be even worse if it were designed differently.
At the end of the day a client/server model with cheat elimination would be "ideal", but it would be require SO much more processing, you'd be looking at starcraft featuring subscriptions and the kind of latency that you can expect playing WoW. ie. both unplayable and expensive. With that in mind, a reporting system is the most sensible option - it's just that reports need to be acted upon appropriately. Crowdsourcing might work, but has its own problems. At the moment though, maphacking is definitely one of the 'least' of the evils, likely having the very least overall impact on honest players. )
(1) HACKER DETECTED (Sune) Smash (M2) - RUclips
170 apm, lmao just got owned by pure skill
aren't there people whose job it is to ban this guy?
lol known maphacker? Everyone in Europe is using maphacks lol.. who dosent realize this?
isnt nathanias a commentator? and streamer....
oh ok just spelt the same
If I made an alt on EU and called Serral, got it to 7k MMR with Maphacks does that mean Serral is a maphacker? :P
LOL!
There is no way the guy that pushed into thousand siege tanks is map hacking. Unless he pretending to not be.
With a heavy swiss accent^^ Im also using multihacks (autosplit, right click perfect workers for gas, build tab, auto worker spread etc.) but I can tell you it doesnt really help against good players and if you have no idea what a build does. Im not a bloody noob but just bad :P
Why do you hack?
That Guy is actually diamond 1 at best lol.
definitely worse
clearly worse. he does not understand the basic of engaging, he can't multitask, he can't simulate like he had no maphack so he definitly doesn't understand how you play without it.
No he is at best diamond 3. he don’t understand the basics of engaging fights, multitasking is incredibly crap and even with full vision he still did stupid decisions.
Shure this clearly a maphacker, though you barly point out the clear situations, this was just a massiv wine
"Sure this is clearly a map-hacker, though you barely point our the clear situations. This was just a massive whine."
Just a little help with the English. Studying foreign languages myself, so this is just to help you improve. In no way to i mean it judgmentally.
Years ago when i played warcraft 3 RoC and TFT i used maphack and i quit...the reason is simple it seriously will make you worse playing RTS games..you spend more time trying to counter and looking at what your opponent does it really fucks your gameplay up..i went from losing games in wc3 using maphack to getting rid of it and becoming an awesome player...but take it from someone who knows it makes you worse and this video demonstrated that perfectly..he was sitting there sending half his army to go and kill 1-2 units since it was easy and stiming into the army before seeing it which would cause your units to need it much sooner again before your opponent and end up hurting you more since you did it a second or two earlier...so ya for people not too good at RTS games i could understand hating maphackers but just know they wont get better because it will seriously hurt your game play..
It's a joke that you can assume someone's a joke from reading a single comment of theirs on the internet. But from your single comment it's clear that you're being a fucking twat.
@@Absolutelybest Dont be a Twat.
There's a lot of truth in this. I tried out a maphack back when the warcraft 3 (TF?) beta closed, and hacked servers popped up to allow us to play it still while we waited for release. (At the time there was a bug that allowed any hero to get 99 on all stats by shift-clicking books, so the games were getting regularly ruined even without hacks)
I quickly learned that I wasn't getting better AT ALL.
That being said, it *does* make a great player even better, even if it 'freezes' their skill progression in the long term. As such, I think there's a real danger when already-great players install maphacks to push from master to GM, or GM to pro.
Luckily, at that kind of level, getting caught is enough of a deterrent!
For more casual players - I totally agree. Maphacks will stop users from getting any better.
I love watching you but your microphone is really all of over your mouth. You're too loud I needed to reduce my volume when listening to you everytime.
It's not fair! I mean this people are in the game. I cannot believe it. He sniped this nice Nathanias guy.
By the way maphacks should give you vision so you don't need to scan.
No they don't give u vision as he explained in the video, u can see enemy units but ur own units do not