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It is cheap now. The cheapest its ever been. I'm talking about quality of course. The price is the highest ever. That's a trend in all German cars, they're getting worse and worse, but more expensive at the same time. A sign of a dying car industry due to horrible politics in the country.
@@derbigpr500 totally agreed- as a former golf enthusiast. the only german company still trying to savor its roots is porsche. maybe you could add bmw if you think about the m3- but even its days are numbered.
@@KK001 exactly, funny how everyone is complaining that this and that got incredibly expensive.... What if I told you that it's your money that lost value, because someone just printed billions of new money and pumped it wherever they wanted to :)
@@martinkomora5525 its not billions its probably 10s of trillions. Biden deadass printed a whole trillion dollars to be sent directly to Ukraine about 2 years ago or so, on top of whatever had already been printed because of c*ovid. Inflation has yet to relax meaning theyre currently still printing at the same rate theyve been since 2020, more or less.
All these manufacturers going for infotainment control versus physical buttons is disgusting. If I use my mobile phone while driving I can potentially lose my driver's license, and rightfully so. But if I want to change the inside temperature I must look at the infotainment screen. What is the difference? Absolutely absurd, and so utterly disappointing, considering the combined experience of all the designers and executives at the top levels of car companies approving and pushing for this Absolutely obvious wrong direction.
Seriously. I thought the fad would end with Tesla sales slowing, but no.. I think manufacturers caught on that they can cut cost not manufacturing buttons and dials and instead use these cheaply available standard LCD screens. Until regulations come in to stop them they will continue making these built-in driver distraction units.
If you use your mobile phone in a bracket it is still allowed in Germany. Try to type in a Golf 7 on the MIB. It is really slow an you have to look down.
Data & facts: VW Golf facelift LED - LED Plus - Matrix LED Illuminated front logo Optional sports suspension or bad roads suspension Optional DCC 1.000 Euro 4,28 m 169“ hatch 4,63 m 182“ Variant 16”/17”/18" wheels 19” possible in sports models 10” infotainment for base models 13” beginning mid trim Optional HUD Fabric seats base Optional micro fibre 1,5 l TSI 116 hp 9,9s or 150 hp 8,6 s (6-spd manual or 7-spd DSG) 1.5 l TSI PHEV 204 hp 7,2s or 272 hp 6,6s (GTE) - 20 kWh 2,0 l TSI 190 hp or 265 hp GTI 5,9s 300 hp GTI Clubsport 5,6s Golf R 333 hp 4,6s 2.0 TDI 115 hp 10,2s or 150 hp 8,8s 27.000 Euro base 44.000 test vehicle US market: only Golf GTI and Golf R 27.000 Euro / pounds base 44.000 test vehicle Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.
if they absolutely must be doing that LED craze, I'd rather it'd be just the badge and not the light bar. It looks so bad on the road, the lightbar is never the same hue as the headlights so it looks aftermarket from a mile away.
Love love love that you have started adding rear door closing sound/feel. Hope you enjoy your work as much as I and others enjoy the finished production! it is soooo gooot. Cheers for now ~ Roger
Whole dash is fugly. Too many flashing light externally with illuminated VW sign is all a bit like DIY add ons. No doubt this car will be better to drive than my 2018 7.5 R estate but I’m more than happy with the look internally and externally of my older version.
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for the MK9, they should put back the AC control knobs and buttons, (or take the one from the new Superb) and I'll seriously consider buying one.
44k for a golf is outrageous 🤯 I bought a new top spec 4x4 dacia duster for 22k after discounts. Works great and took it through floods and mountain roads which I would never do with a 44k golf
…I recently test drove the new Duster and although I definitely like Dacia a lot as they became the real Volkswagen for the normal people, It needs to be said that a Golf MK8 isn’t only a lot more expensive, it is also light years better in any aspect I can probably think of…. Quality, comfort, materials, craftsmanship, sound insulation, suspension, specs, equipment, etc… again, it’s expensive but once driving it, the price also shows!
Someone that buys a Dacia, is obv not a car guy. I don't blame you for thinking that the Duster is better than a mk8.5 Golf, lack of knowledge does such things.
@@j.h-sr7em I had a Porsche Cayman before, as much as it’s a lot of fun it’s just not worth the money at 3x the cost and it wouldn’t even take me on my mountain trips.
$44,000 Euros WOW....that is $47,000 US for a GOLF. No wonder VW doesn't sell the Golf in the USA any longer, no one here would pay that much for a Golf. I do like how VW has changed some things, but honestly, all and all, I just prefer the MK7 and MK7.5 versions of the Golf better just on aesthetics inside and out. Can't believe how much vehicles are costing these days. Its mind blowing.
Who needs the illuminated front grill? The same for the capacitive buttons instead of the real buttons for the main driving functions. The human body didn't change since the car was invented, therefore all we realy need is a safer and ergonomic driving not a causing distraction driving experience.
Don't get me wrong... I am more of a PSA guy but, if I had to buy a Golf or a Mercedes A Class, both at 44k, I would get the Golf. The interior is so much nicer! Of course that in the real world I would simply get a less expensive C4, 308 or Megane...
Its not vw's fault tho. The problem is your money losing half its value since 2020 because somebody felt like creating the flu 2.0 and convinced every its deadly.
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Love mine. I am getting 45-50 mpg when driven at 50-60 mph in the UK with the engine you have tested. I don 't need fancy graphics to show me how to close the hatch however. I would like a gas strut for the bonnet.
They could make the whole windscreen become an infotainment screen, leaving only a small window to see the outside. Or they could install cameras and then we could see what's outside on the giant infotainment screen
I wish VW would bring back the Golf to the United States. I love the GTI, but would like to have the option for a more affordable Golf. Nice car and a great review as always.
Me too. Am considering a GTI as my next car. Would downsize the wheels and add a resonator to quiet the exhaust. I just want a comfortable Golf sized vehicle.
We still keep our original golf mk4 running as 3rd car, the best golf ever. The concept that if you properly maintain a german car it will last forever. It is that good that I was considering keeping the GLC as main car and getting as secondary a golf GTD, unfortunately they canceled the GTD :(
Hail physical buttons on the steering wheel once again, please make a comeback on the media - climate physical operations too, VW! (Also on the keys) That high-gloss pianoblack plastic piece left from the gadgets surrounding the capacitive BS lighting panel is hideous too.
picked up my 2nd mk8 Variant last week, preFL, 1.5 etsi 130hp dsg, had a 2022 1.0tsi manual (covid era, lead time for dsg was 12months+, manuals were on the lot), the etsi surprised me. I have 1.5tsi in karoq that is disengaging to neutral when you lift-off, and I thought e-tsi would do the same but will just help to keep the rolling speed longer, but it shuts of the engine and it keeps you rolling for surprisingly long distance. On parking lots it kept me at 18kmh for a full circle till I found a free spot, it is really like driving a hybrid, which has its negatives too of course, the brake pedal is completely different than on base TSI engines without the mhev, most of the time you feel like your brakes failed, you have to really press it all the way down, you also have to learn to brake earlier and generally switch your mindset to a hybrid driving, I don't know the capacity of the small battery, but it is shutting off the engine... a lot more often than I would expect it for a mhev, If they would come with this technology 15 years ago when they first started putting start-stop in cars, killing 12v batteries and starters, people would not mind it that much. But im glad you can put on coolant and oil temperature to be shown in display, so I generally keep the dsg in sport mode until the oil is at least at 80C, otherwise on short drive, even 30km, in summer, your engine may take a long time to cross 90C, and oil temperature generally in modern engines runs ideally at 95-100C, I like the eTSI, I don't like comparing manuals and automatic, I do tend to rev the engine much higher than automatic would, basically like if the dsg would be in sport mode all the time, but my average consumption on 1.0tsi 200nm 110hp manual was 5.7-6.1, on all-season tyres, on this 1.5 etsi 130hp 200Nm it's 5.1. I don't really care about the consumption, I reckon other drivers would get bigger differnce, but I like that now I don't mind start/stop to be left alone, that I produce less noise in the city, does not really make a difference in the cabin, below 90kmh you don't really know if the engine is running or not, I have to keep the rpm gauge on to actually know if the engine is shut off or not. It makes me want to buy a hybrid next time, which is weird for me to even think about it.
Very interesting comments on the NVH issues, thank you for that. Looking forward to seeing your review of the Variant version with the more potent diesel under the bonnet. Cheers from Poland, excellent job Majchrzak 👍
On my radar. Giving up a lease BMW 520d soon - a totally brilliant car that has been a pure joy to be with for 3 years but they are now crazy money and I am not ready for electric. I am on the motorway a lot but quite fancy a smaller /sportier practical car. Is the new Golf for me ? ( rarely carry passenger ). 150bhp tsi Match seems a good spec for me.... I know it seems a big leap but I dont need a big car anymore and am even considering the manual transmission.... 😮 Thanks for sensible opinions.
It’s insane the Mk 8 Golf costs $50K in Australia when it was $30K for a Mk 7 when it came out. No one buys them anymore because no one can afford them
Nothing beats a manual on the open road. A crying shame that golfs are sold in many countries without a manual option. No one is scrapping their car when the clutch goes but plenty will when the dsg lunches itself
The Golf 7 was always praised for its roomy interior, especially in the rear. How come the knee room in the Golf 8 gets criticized now ? Is it smaller now than in the Golf 7 or has just the standard changed since many of the competitors have gotten more spacious ?
They totally abandoned the "peoples car" approach that made them successful. They overpriced the new beetle so much it was a flop. They ruined the Passat in America with poor design and engine choices as well as overpriced. They overpriced the GTI and added all manner of electronics that the owners didnt want. They continue to make these blunders even today.
I love by GTI but the price has gone up a lot. I was looking at manual GTIs in 2018 and they were going for about 27,000. I decided to go for a M240i convertible. However, when I found out the manual was being discontinued, I decided to buy one before they were gone. I like it but it was 37,500. That's a big increase for only six years. I think it's a bit crazy the car prices now adays. I am now looking at a CLE 450 conv. but the price is crazy. I am not in a hurry but if I wait, they'll just keep rising. I have a lot to think about.
I don't want to pay for cascading leds. I don't want pay for matrix lights. I don't want to pay for a light up vw logo. I don't want a giant screen. I don't want giant alloys. I don't want a turbo engine. I don't want touch controls. What is wrong with these companies. Make simple cars ffs.
VW Golf 7 won the Car of the Year with a whopping 400+ points from the jury (highest ever points if I'm not wrong). I've Golf 7. It would be very interesting if you could compare Golf 7 versus Golf 8 Facelift. For example, comparing driving comfort, noise insulation, etc.
I just upgraded from mk7 1.4tsi to mk8 1.5tsi. The mk8 is much louder, both road noise and engine. Also, there is more vibration and a less settled ride. Steering is more responsive, though.
Loved my Golf but had to switch to Tiguan as Golf was too low for my old body! Loved the way it handled even though it was small engine (2022 US version) and somewhat de-contented. Still very peppy car, such a joy to drive. Thomas here’s a shoutout to your always good looking footwear. Oh yes, and stylish glasses.
I have a facelift golf 8 and had several pre-facelift golf 8 before. Here are my 2 cents: - The bigger display offers more functionality like shortcuts and the buttons are bigger and are easier to press when driving. Especially when using apple car play. The bigger size is also not distracting to me. Overall i'm happy with the bigger display. - The touch sliders are illuminated now. I didn't care that they weren't before, but many people complained. So, it's good that they fixed this, I guess. - The infotainment software is definitely more reliable now. I didn't notice any black screens or any other problems yet. - The illuminated logo is a real eye catcher. My sister in law even called me from her car when she was driving in front of me. She was very impressed :D I personally also think it looks really cool and not cheap or gimmicky at all. - I really like the seats. They seem more high quality. - The overall quality has increased in the facelifted golf. The prior model had some sounds coming from the gearbox or something, which was a general problem I had with all Golf 8 cars i had (i was getting a new one each six months on lease). Those sounds are now gone. - I also got a lot more for my money. I didn't pay much more, but got better seats, a headup display, better headlights, better side mirrors, etc. - The cockpit seems a bit more laggy when switching views now (definately less than 30 fps, probably less than 24 fps even). I also prefer the old UI design in the cockpit display. The new UI just looks a lot more busy now. The old UI had a much cleaner design. - I also prefer the old front bumper, but this is subjective of course. So, overall, I'm happy with the updates in the facelift Golf 8. Most of the updates are positive and I got more features for my money.
Hi Thomas! I had a Golf 5 and am now driving a 7.5. I bought a 8.5 R Line with a lot of discount 🎉 I just could not give 2000€ for matrix led lights, lights are lights, not gimmicks, you seem to find them very important 😊
I would love to have a deeper insight into the DCC - you always recommend that, and I have followed that recommendation and find that it's worth it, but no clue about how it actually functions. Maybe a technical deepdive of this system next time?
This vehicle looks remarkable. I can confidently say that Volkswagen is starting to move in the right direction again. Unfortunately, in my country, we only get the GTI and R versions of the Golf.
Now add the average 3% to 5% Inflation for those 8 years...and the money for all the Assitant Systems...wether you like it or not...and you will end at this price point, too...but no one really pays a Golf for the Listprice...you always get a Discount or better lease it
Super gorgeous rear lights with that shadowing effect. Would love a car with a "bad roads" feature; here in California are roads are pretty bad now; not as bad as Brasil but definitely way worse than 10 years ago. Thin tires are a recipe for a cracked rim. Sadly, we only get the Golf R and GTI in the USA, when the plain Golf would be a much more practical product. And of course we aren't allowed to have the economical Diesel version; after the scandal VW will never import a diesel again. And of course we aren't allowed to have the more reliable manual transmission version. If you want your car to go 500k miles, a manual transmission is the best way to go. And of course we don't get the Estate (wagon) version. the US gets screwed over and over by the foreign car companies who only send us their most expensive, largest, vehicles. So we just drool over Hilux and mini Asian trucks, and the practical cars that are so abundant in Europe. So we are left with 48k avg price SUV's.
Does the new Golf 8.5 1.5TSI still have COD (Cylinder on demand) where it goes down to 2 cylinder mode when there is low power needed? My 7.5 Golf has that. I think it is a nice feature. I can't find it on the official Volkswagen site.
I remember back in the day when the Golf was the affordable go to vehicle for many. Now idk who would actually buy one, at least one that is not bare bones. Those with nostalgia maybe? Anyway i would always prefer the Civic. The Civic hybrid and the Prius are the absolute kings in the segment.
Interesting...my first Golf 2 was really expensive...you had to work at least two years for it...today it is still expensive, but the average salary is at 34k/year in Germany, which means it got not more expensive at all... But it has way more Features, Assistent Systems and much much higher Security at Crashs.
Hi, you know what I like about the Golf? It's the design and styling of the car, it's a bit more "conservative" when compared to other brands and direct competitors like 308, Ceed, i30 etc. it has it's own elegance. Of course there are really good alternatives from a price perspective but the Golf is the kind of car that doesn't scream "look at me, look at me" and I like that. Can you also please start the Piano Black Police similar to the Fake Exhaust Police? :D
Such fun to see a manual shift again. This is a highly evolved dinosaur which has about five years left till extinction as an ICE. It is hopeful that VW have managed more proper buttons for the UI/UX but I am not convinced about the software. The rest of the engineering and practicality looks great. At €44k it is not cheap.
What is wrong with all car manufacturers these days 20 -30 years ago you can buy a golf or Corolla and use as family car , rear seats used to have as much room as Passat but now all hatchbacks are simply two + mini two That’s insanely stupid or purposely made to push buyers for more expensive suv type cars And these huge screens , unnecessary clutter
@@josefv-y8m I searched for Europe sales Golf vs Astra for 2022 and 2023. Astra sell x3 more then the Golf. Since now there is a facelift, no doubt it will sell a bit better for few months before it is back to baseline (3x less then Astra)
I’ve owned a mark v, vi and vii Golf. They were excellent cars. Just bought a BMW 1 Series. The infotainment screen is small and controlled by touch or a selector wheel which is far better and safer to use on the move. I don’t like big screens that look like an afterthought. I agree that the new Golf is too expensive.
In these days I have to change my old Golf, I'm considering this new Golf 8.5 (1.5 mild hybrid) and the Honda Civic e:HEV (full hybrid), same price (with the same specs) but very different cars. Which should I choose? Which is the best?
VW and Audi do the best exterior lighting signature. This Golf however seems quite noisy. VW dont use double door seals on the front doors on the Golf and Polo.
I would like to see some more on the transmission, I have a 2023 version with the automatic transmission and I don't like it, it is very efficient, but it is veery jerky and annoying on downhills
@@autogefuehl thanks. Last question. And what about ride quality and noise? golf has mcferson while Octavia has torsion beam. Does that feel different according to you
yes. The mild hybrid push system is build inside the gearbox. That is the reason that dsg gets mild hybrid but the manual does not. In the case of Ford Focus and Mazda the mild hybrid electric motor is attached to the crankshaft by pulleys so it always comes with it.
About 10-12 years ago, a BMW 335i with a twin-turbo 3-liter engine cost 41.850 euros, or 44.000 if you added the M-Sport package. A new Golf for that price is simply bad value. Gone are the days when customers got great value on their money.
And a BMW of this Power is now at 100k today. If you add the Inflation year by year for the 12 Years, you will easily end at this price of the Golf...and you never got something like a Travel Assist, which I love.
@@josefv-y8m "Inflation" is the bullsh*t they make you swallow and you are happy to do it. Have people's salaries doubled in the last 10 years for the same work ? NO.
Vw really is listening and improving again. But it is still far to go back to golf 7.5 materials and quality. And thank got its stll manual. Better car and great video Thomas!
Once again asking VW to bring the Golf back to Canada. The Taos doesn't even come close, and not everyone can afford or wants to spend on a GTI! We're not the USA, we love hatchbacks and wagons still, albeit less than we used to. The Golf used to fill that spot for a practical car that's more than basic transport, but not quite into luxury or performance. Now there's just a void here. This Mk8 refresh, especially the hybrid looks like it would fill in nicely.
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This is our in-depth review of the 2024 VW Golf facelift, here the Golf Style. We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
00:00 Golf logo and lights
00:59 Hatch vs Variant
01:26 Suspension and rear
02:26 Interior quality
03:24 Seats and comfort
04:03 Driver POV
04:39 Cockpit
05:47 Infotainment upgrade
06:32 Rear seats
07:38 Trunk / boot
08:32 Engines
09:10 Acceleration Autobahn
12:17 Noise and DCC comfort
15:45 Driving fun
19:47 Consumption economy
20:12 Price
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golf wont be back until its cheap and affordable again. we are seeing golf's reaching 50k euro, wtf?
It is cheap now. The cheapest its ever been. I'm talking about quality of course. The price is the highest ever. That's a trend in all German cars, they're getting worse and worse, but more expensive at the same time. A sign of a dying car industry due to horrible politics in the country.
@@derbigpr500 totally agreed- as a former golf enthusiast. the only german company still trying to savor its roots is porsche. maybe you could add bmw if you think about the m3- but even its days are numbered.
@@derbigpr500nothing to do with politics only greed and financial targets of the shareholders / management !
@hughlevantjames905 I don't believe there are many mildly said naive to buy a golf for that price
100 procent agree
44k for a Golf??? Man the market is just nuts!
It aint the market, its ur money thats worthless all of a sudden cuz we let the goverment fuck around.
@@KK001 exactly, funny how everyone is complaining that this and that got incredibly expensive.... What if I told you that it's your money that lost value, because someone just printed billions of new money and pumped it wherever they wanted to :)
And it's nowhere near the quality it once had.
@@martinkomora5525 its not billions its probably 10s of trillions. Biden deadass printed a whole trillion dollars to be sent directly to Ukraine about 2 years ago or so, on top of whatever had already been printed because of c*ovid. Inflation has yet to relax meaning theyre currently still printing at the same rate theyve been since 2020, more or less.
A Golf 7 comparable to the actual goal line, 2.0 TDI with DSG cost than 35k. It is a little bit more than 2% up each year.
All these manufacturers going for infotainment control versus physical buttons is disgusting. If I use my mobile phone while driving I can potentially lose my driver's license, and rightfully so. But if I want to change the inside temperature I must look at the infotainment screen. What is the difference? Absolutely absurd, and so utterly disappointing, considering the combined experience of all the designers and executives at the top levels of car companies approving and pushing for this Absolutely obvious wrong direction.
Indeed
Seriously. I thought the fad would end with Tesla sales slowing, but no.. I think manufacturers caught on that they can cut cost not manufacturing buttons and dials and instead use these cheaply available standard LCD screens. Until regulations come in to stop them they will continue making these built-in driver distraction units.
If you use your mobile phone in a bracket it is still allowed in Germany. Try to type in a Golf 7 on the MIB. It is really slow an you have to look down.
They push it beauce its cheaper than having buttons. One fat screen for all the controls
Data & facts:
VW Golf facelift
LED - LED Plus - Matrix LED
Illuminated front logo
Optional sports suspension or bad roads suspension
Optional DCC 1.000 Euro
4,28 m 169“ hatch
4,63 m 182“ Variant
16”/17”/18" wheels
19” possible in sports models
10” infotainment for base models
13” beginning mid trim
Optional HUD
Fabric seats base
Optional micro fibre
1,5 l TSI 116 hp 9,9s or 150 hp 8,6 s (6-spd manual or 7-spd DSG)
1.5 l TSI PHEV 204 hp 7,2s or 272 hp 6,6s (GTE) - 20 kWh
2,0 l TSI 190 hp or
265 hp GTI 5,9s
300 hp GTI Clubsport 5,6s
Golf R 333 hp 4,6s
2.0 TDI 115 hp 10,2s or 150 hp 8,8s
27.000 Euro base
44.000 test vehicle
US market: only Golf GTI and Golf R
27.000 Euro / pounds base
44.000 test vehicle
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It's called "Volkswagen", but people can't afford it. Well done!
This is why it is the second largest OEM after Toyota...
The goverments done fucked us once again.
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That illuminated VW grill badge looks so AliExpress
no, it's not.
@hamsterclamper true
@@Elixir9 Send me the link for my Golf7 from aliexpress
if they absolutely must be doing that LED craze, I'd rather it'd be just the badge and not the light bar. It looks so bad on the road, the lightbar is never the same hue as the headlights so it looks aftermarket from a mile away.
It looks better in person
Love love love that you have started adding rear door closing sound/feel. Hope you enjoy your work as much as I and others enjoy the finished production! it is soooo gooot. Cheers for now ~ Roger
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I hate the huge screen. It's just too big. Good that they brought back normal buttons on the steering wheel. The price is ridiculous.
The old buttons are not good. The car is expensive
That screen is comically oversized.
Another interior where it looks like an iPad has been glued to the dashboard too 👎
Agree it looks idiotic
Whole dash is fugly. Too many flashing light externally with illuminated VW sign is all a bit like DIY add ons.
No doubt this car will be better to drive than my 2018 7.5 R estate but I’m more than happy with the look internally and externally of my older version.
for the MK9, they should put back the AC control knobs and buttons, (or take the one from the new Superb) and I'll seriously consider buying one.
I've heard there will be no mk9. Id3 replaces it.
@@jondonnelly3 more likely golf replaces id3.
44k for a golf is outrageous 🤯 I bought a new top spec 4x4 dacia duster for 22k after discounts. Works great and took it through floods and mountain roads which I would never do with a 44k golf
…I recently test drove the new Duster and although I definitely like Dacia a lot as they became the real Volkswagen for the normal people, It needs to be said that a Golf MK8 isn’t only a lot more expensive, it is also light years better in any aspect I can probably think of…. Quality, comfort, materials, craftsmanship, sound insulation, suspension, specs, equipment, etc… again, it’s expensive but once driving it, the price also shows!
Someone that buys a Dacia, is obv not a car guy. I don't blame you for thinking that the Duster is better than a mk8.5 Golf, lack of knowledge does such things.
@@j.h-sr7em I had a Porsche Cayman before, as much as it’s a lot of fun it’s just not worth the money at 3x the cost and it wouldn’t even take me on my mountain trips.
Did you expect a Cayman to get you through floods and off-roads? 😂
dacia vs. volkswagen? Lol
$44,000 Euros WOW....that is $47,000 US for a GOLF. No wonder VW doesn't sell the Golf in the USA any longer, no one here would pay that much for a Golf. I do like how VW has changed some things, but honestly, all and all, I just prefer the MK7 and MK7.5 versions of the Golf better just on aesthetics inside and out. Can't believe how much vehicles are costing these days. Its mind blowing.
That display is stupidly big
Wait, did he really said that the price of that model tested was 44k euro ?! Is that a mistake or ... ?
Damn i would say its 24. Not even auto transmission...
Nice to see that VW have created a separate "check engine" light outside the digital cluster. Should make it easier to take the bulb out...
Who needs the illuminated front grill?
The same for the capacitive buttons instead of the real buttons for the main driving functions.
The human body didn't change since the car was invented, therefore all we realy need is a safer and ergonomic driving not a causing distraction driving experience.
Its ok, but still its just a Golf for 44k for this lets say goood specces model....thats insane.
Don't get me wrong... I am more of a PSA guy but, if I had to buy a Golf or a Mercedes A Class, both at 44k, I would get the Golf.
The interior is so much nicer!
Of course that in the real world I would simply get a less expensive C4, 308 or Megane...
Its not vw's fault tho. The problem is your money losing half its value since 2020 because somebody felt like creating the flu 2.0 and convinced every its deadly.
@@PartizanSRB this price is just in Germany.
Thats hybrid camry price. Germans are insane
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I don't understand why are they putting all the digital B's not analog and cheap scratchy plastics in a car over 40 thousand what a ripp off
Thanks for this nostalgic ride with a manual gear shifted Golf!
Great video and Very good presentation. I don’t like the screen placed in the middle of the new Golf car dashboard
Thanks 🙏
Love mine. I am getting 45-50 mpg when driven at 50-60 mph in the UK with the engine you have tested. I don 't need fancy graphics to show me how to close the hatch however. I would like a gas strut for the bonnet.
Thanks for the feedback!
Still doesn’t beat the mk 7.5 golf
They could make the whole windscreen become an infotainment screen, leaving only a small window to see the outside. Or they could install cameras and then we could see what's outside on the giant infotainment screen
I wish VW would bring back the Golf to the United States.
I love the GTI, but would like to have the option for a more affordable Golf.
Nice car and a great review as always.
Thanks m8!
Me too. Am considering a GTI as my next car. Would downsize the wheels and add a resonator to quiet the exhaust. I just want a comfortable Golf sized vehicle.
We still keep our original golf mk4 running as 3rd car, the best golf ever. The concept that if you properly maintain a german car it will last forever. It is that good that I was considering keeping the GLC as main car and getting as secondary a golf GTD, unfortunately they canceled the GTD :(
Mk4 best Golf gen indeed
I have that golf, but stupid climate policy in Spain will forbid me from using it in 2025...🤬
How so?
@@autogefuehl old cars like mine can't be used in cities like Madrid from 2025
@@MFSTRidiculous. C0mm13s taking over.😮
Viva Cristo Rey! Viva Franco! Arriba España!
Door closing sound 🎉🎉🎉
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Golf is getting better and better and what I love about it, is that you can always count on it, in fact, you can always count on the entire VW family.
You are joking, right?
you can count on them to burn oil even after 10k km
Hail physical buttons on the steering wheel once again, please make a comeback on the media - climate physical operations too, VW! (Also on the keys) That high-gloss pianoblack plastic piece left from the gadgets surrounding the capacitive BS lighting panel is hideous too.
I wish the steering wheel was just for steering. McLaren’s approach, using toggles around the dashboard and a pure steering wheel is genius!
Waiting for SavageGeese to review the Piano black and whitelack of B58 in it. AI Jack will be disappointed…
Thanks for your review Thomas. Please review the GTE model ASAP. I'm eager to see that on the German autobahn.
picked up my 2nd mk8 Variant last week, preFL, 1.5 etsi 130hp dsg, had a 2022 1.0tsi manual (covid era, lead time for dsg was 12months+, manuals were on the lot), the etsi surprised me. I have 1.5tsi in karoq that is disengaging to neutral when you lift-off, and I thought e-tsi would do the same but will just help to keep the rolling speed longer, but it shuts of the engine and it keeps you rolling for surprisingly long distance. On parking lots it kept me at 18kmh for a full circle till I found a free spot, it is really like driving a hybrid, which has its negatives too of course, the brake pedal is completely different than on base TSI engines without the mhev, most of the time you feel like your brakes failed, you have to really press it all the way down, you also have to learn to brake earlier and generally switch your mindset to a hybrid driving, I don't know the capacity of the small battery, but it is shutting off the engine... a lot more often than I would expect it for a mhev, If they would come with this technology 15 years ago when they first started putting start-stop in cars, killing 12v batteries and starters, people would not mind it that much. But im glad you can put on coolant and oil temperature to be shown in display, so I generally keep the dsg in sport mode until the oil is at least at 80C, otherwise on short drive, even 30km, in summer, your engine may take a long time to cross 90C, and oil temperature generally in modern engines runs ideally at 95-100C, I like the eTSI, I don't like comparing manuals and automatic, I do tend to rev the engine much higher than automatic would, basically like if the dsg would be in sport mode all the time, but my average consumption on 1.0tsi 200nm 110hp manual was 5.7-6.1, on all-season tyres, on this 1.5 etsi 130hp 200Nm it's 5.1. I don't really care about the consumption, I reckon other drivers would get bigger differnce, but I like that now I don't mind start/stop to be left alone, that I produce less noise in the city, does not really make a difference in the cabin, below 90kmh you don't really know if the engine is running or not, I have to keep the rpm gauge on to actually know if the engine is shut off or not. It makes me want to buy a hybrid next time, which is weird for me to even think about it.
thanks for feedback !
I really hate Volkswagen Group Cup holder location in middle console . Its not comfortable(btw I have Cupra)
Indeed! The correct placement is to the right of the gear lever.
9:48
With great shifting comes great responsibility
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Very interesting comments on the NVH issues, thank you for that. Looking forward to seeing your review of the Variant version with the more potent diesel under the bonnet.
Cheers from Poland, excellent job Majchrzak 👍
Thanks best greetings!
On my radar. Giving up a lease BMW 520d soon - a totally brilliant car that has been a pure joy to be with for 3 years but they are now crazy money and I am not ready for electric. I am on the motorway a lot but quite fancy a smaller /sportier practical car. Is the new Golf for me ? ( rarely carry passenger ). 150bhp tsi Match seems a good spec for me.... I know it seems a big leap but I dont need a big car anymore and am even considering the manual transmission.... 😮 Thanks for sensible opinions.
It’s insane the Mk 8 Golf costs $50K in Australia when it was $30K for a Mk 7 when it came out. No one buys them anymore because no one can afford them
Interesting...in Germany we have record sales since this Facelift came out...they have to produce it 24h a day to be able to deliver the ordered Cars.
Thomas's outfit co-ordination is on point, again 😍💯
thanks m8 =)
Nothing beats a manual on the open road. A crying shame that golfs are sold in many countries without a manual option. No one is scrapping their car when the clutch goes but plenty will when the dsg lunches itself
Decent sense of humour on the disco lights. 😅
They returned the buttons on the wheel, now it remains to put back the manual controls for the climate unit
Thomas love to love you the best automotive reviewer there is 😍😍😍 too accurate too objective too realistic plz some more.
thanks so much !
The Golf 7 was always praised for its roomy interior, especially in the rear.
How come the knee room in the Golf 8 gets criticized now ?
Is it smaller now than in the Golf 7 or has just the standard changed since many of the competitors have gotten more spacious ?
Never praised the Golf hatch for knee room, it is tight
Never praised the Golf hatch for knee room, it is tight
The rear hand-holds on the boot lid have been on nearly every VW I've owned - and yet hardly anybody knows they are there or what they are for.
Watching this with a smile on my face after Lewis wins the British GP
Last hurra for the old man 🎉🎉🎉
VW has blown more opportunities than any carmaker in history.
They totally abandoned the "peoples car" approach that made them successful. They overpriced the new beetle so much it was a flop. They ruined the Passat in America with poor design and engine choices as well as overpriced. They overpriced the GTI and added all manner of electronics that the owners didnt want. They continue to make these blunders even today.
I love by GTI but the price has gone up a lot. I was looking at manual GTIs in 2018 and they were going for about 27,000. I decided to go for a M240i convertible. However, when I found out the manual was being discontinued, I decided to buy one before they were gone. I like it but it was 37,500. That's a big increase for only six years. I think it's a bit crazy the car prices now adays. I am now looking at a CLE 450 conv. but the price is crazy. I am not in a hurry but if I wait, they'll just keep rising. I have a lot to think about.
Hi Thomas ...will the golf facelift have an alltrack version ? ...ps they fixed the design big time
I dont think so but if so, we ll keep u updated
We want new Tucson review! :)
I wish the new passat had the same design as this. It looks very good. Too bad about the sound insulation.
I don't want to pay for cascading leds. I don't want pay for matrix lights. I don't want to pay for a light up vw logo. I don't want a giant screen. I don't want giant alloys. I don't want a turbo engine. I don't want touch controls. What is wrong with these companies. Make simple cars ffs.
I liked the look of the 8 but this looks even better! Timeless design.
From price, this mid trim competes with Tesla Model 3. Which one would you suggest?
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If your charging infrastructure is good…
I can get a CLA for this price
VW Golf 7 won the Car of the Year with a whopping 400+ points from the jury (highest ever points if I'm not wrong).
I've Golf 7.
It would be very interesting if you could compare Golf 7 versus Golf 8 Facelift.
For example, comparing driving comfort, noise insulation, etc.
I just upgraded from mk7 1.4tsi to mk8 1.5tsi. The mk8 is much louder, both road noise and engine. Also, there is more vibration and a less settled ride. Steering is more responsive, though.
@@spr0123 congrats 🎉 So you bought Mark-8 or Mark-8 Facelift?
I bought mk8, not face-lift.
Loved my Golf but had to switch to Tiguan as Golf was too low for my old body! Loved the way it handled even though it was small engine (2022 US version) and somewhat de-contented. Still very peppy car, such a joy to drive. Thomas here’s a shoutout to your always good looking footwear. Oh yes, and stylish glasses.
highly appreciated my friend !
What happened at 9:26, the km/h jumped from 85 to 104 and while shifting and then back again to 91 ?
Could you please add an ASMR quality check section, while reviewing the interior part?
We do a lot of that actually! Both in the long reviews and also on our shorts socials
I have a facelift golf 8 and had several pre-facelift golf 8 before. Here are my 2 cents:
- The bigger display offers more functionality like shortcuts and the buttons are bigger and are easier to press when driving. Especially when using apple car play. The bigger size is also not distracting to me. Overall i'm happy with the bigger display.
- The touch sliders are illuminated now. I didn't care that they weren't before, but many people complained. So, it's good that they fixed this, I guess.
- The infotainment software is definitely more reliable now. I didn't notice any black screens or any other problems yet.
- The illuminated logo is a real eye catcher. My sister in law even called me from her car when she was driving in front of me. She was very impressed :D I personally also think it looks really cool and not cheap or gimmicky at all.
- I really like the seats. They seem more high quality.
- The overall quality has increased in the facelifted golf. The prior model had some sounds coming from the gearbox or something, which was a general problem I had with all Golf 8 cars i had (i was getting a new one each six months on lease). Those sounds are now gone.
- I also got a lot more for my money. I didn't pay much more, but got better seats, a headup display, better headlights, better side mirrors, etc.
- The cockpit seems a bit more laggy when switching views now (definately less than 30 fps, probably less than 24 fps even). I also prefer the old UI design in the cockpit display. The new UI just looks a lot more busy now. The old UI had a much cleaner design.
- I also prefer the old front bumper, but this is subjective of course.
So, overall, I'm happy with the updates in the facelift Golf 8. Most of the updates are positive and I got more features for my money.
Thanks for review!
thanks for the feeback !
Nice review meet❤
Hi Thomas! I had a Golf 5 and am now driving a 7.5. I bought a 8.5 R Line with a lot of discount 🎉 I just could not give 2000€ for matrix led lights, lights are lights, not gimmicks, you seem to find them very important 😊
I would love to have a deeper insight into the DCC - you always recommend that, and I have followed that recommendation and find that it's worth it, but no clue about how it actually functions. Maybe a technical deepdive of this system next time?
This vehicle looks remarkable. I can confidently say that Volkswagen is starting to move in the right direction again. Unfortunately, in my country, we only get the GTI and R versions of the Golf.
I paid $26,000 for my 2016 Golf SE and I thought that was expensive... almost $50,000 for a Golf today seems insane to me
Now add the average 3% to 5% Inflation for those 8 years...and the money for all the Assitant Systems...wether you like it or not...and you will end at this price point, too...but no one really pays a Golf for the Listprice...you always get a Discount or better lease it
Super gorgeous rear lights with that shadowing effect. Would love a car with a "bad roads" feature; here in California are roads are pretty bad now; not as bad as Brasil but definitely way worse than 10 years ago. Thin tires are a recipe for a cracked rim. Sadly, we only get the Golf R and GTI in the USA, when the plain Golf would be a much more practical product. And of course we aren't allowed to have the economical Diesel version; after the scandal VW will never import a diesel again. And of course we aren't allowed to have the more reliable manual transmission version. If you want your car to go 500k miles, a manual transmission is the best way to go. And of course we don't get the Estate (wagon) version. the US gets screwed over and over by the foreign car companies who only send us their most expensive, largest, vehicles. So we just drool over Hilux and mini Asian trucks, and the practical cars that are so abundant in Europe. So we are left with 48k avg price SUV's.
Does the new Golf 8.5 1.5TSI still have COD (Cylinder on demand) where it goes down to 2 cylinder mode when there is low power needed? My 7.5 Golf has that. I think it is a nice feature.
I can't find it on the official Volkswagen site.
My first VW was $2200 included sunroof and new for that year (1965) A GAS GUAGE! No radio but otherwise a fun car from Bob Smith VW in Hollywood.
I remember back in the day when the Golf was the affordable go to vehicle for many. Now idk who would actually buy one, at least one that is not bare bones. Those with nostalgia maybe? Anyway i would always prefer the Civic. The Civic hybrid and the Prius are the absolute kings in the segment.
Interesting...my first Golf 2 was really expensive...you had to work at least two years for it...today it is still expensive, but the average salary is at 34k/year in Germany, which means it got not more expensive at all... But it has way more Features, Assistent Systems and much much higher Security at Crashs.
my Mk7 golf has hydraulic struts holding up the hood, they decided to cheap out with a $5 prop rod. Shame on you VW!
Hi, you know what I like about the Golf? It's the design and styling of the car, it's a bit more "conservative" when compared to other brands and direct competitors like 308, Ceed, i30 etc. it has it's own elegance. Of course there are really good alternatives from a price perspective but the Golf is the kind of car that doesn't scream "look at me, look at me" and I like that.
Can you also please start the Piano Black Police similar to the Fake Exhaust Police? :D
Still happy with my VW golf 7, which cost a third of this car. 44 K USD/ EUR is insane.
Why is this TV screwed up🤦🏿♂️
Love everything about it except the tacky giant screen and lack of physical controls. If that was sorted it would be a perfect vehicle.
The best reliable types of golf....love it ❤
Dear Thomas can you try the lowest trim level golf the most affortable.
Not only the highest.
Thank you good job perfect videos😊😊
Always trying, but test vehicles are rare in low trims!
Thanks my friend !
Such fun to see a manual shift again. This is a highly evolved dinosaur which has about five years left till extinction as an ICE. It is hopeful that VW have managed more proper buttons for the UI/UX but I am not convinced about the software. The rest of the engineering and practicality looks great. At €44k it is not cheap.
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As long as the buttons are normal, this should be a far better car!
What is wrong with all car manufacturers these days
20 -30 years ago you can buy a golf or Corolla and use as family car , rear seats used to have as much room as Passat but now all hatchbacks are simply two + mini two
That’s insanely stupid or purposely made to push buyers for more expensive suv type cars
And these huge screens , unnecessary clutter
You know that you have a Golf Variant right?
What? Golf 1 or 2 are smaller than a todays Polo...
No way, I bought Opel Astra instead. Automatic, matrix lights, 18" rims for 29k eur. Golf sales are very low
In which Country?
In Germany sales are 3times higher since this Facelift came out.
@@josefv-y8m I searched for Europe sales Golf vs Astra for 2022 and 2023. Astra sell x3 more then the Golf. Since now there is a facelift, no doubt it will sell a bit better for few months before it is back to baseline (3x less then Astra)
@@josefv-y8m in Europe 3x more for 2021 and 2022.
@@josefv-y8m Facelift will sell good because it is a new model for couple of months. Then sales will fall to baseline
@@josefv-y8m 2022 and 2023 Astra sold 3x the cars Golf sold in Europe
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I’ve owned a mark v, vi and vii Golf. They were excellent cars. Just bought a BMW 1 Series. The infotainment screen is small and controlled by touch or a selector wheel which is far better and safer to use on the move. I don’t like big screens that look like an afterthought. I agree that the new Golf is too expensive.
Just can’t get over the headlights on the golf 8. Looks a little better now but still so ugly compared to the 7.5
Indeed
These interiors with what looks look an iPad glued to the dashboard really
sets off my OCD. This a deal breaker for me .
It is quite a step up in silence from the previous generation anyway. Comparing prefacelift.
VW will always be my favourite brand. Love the new Golf
In these days I have to change my old Golf, I'm considering this new Golf 8.5 (1.5 mild hybrid) and the Honda Civic e:HEV (full hybrid), same price (with the same specs) but very different cars. Which should I choose? Which is the best?
Compare it here: ruclips.net/video/dzjoEHWq3mI/видео.htmlsi=tVmhpVwn6gDo_LKi
@@autogefuehl Thank you
VW and Audi do the best exterior lighting signature. This Golf however seems quite noisy. VW dont use double door seals on the front doors on the Golf and Polo.
The MK7.5 Golf still looks better than this - inside and out.
I would like to see some more on the transmission, I have a 2023 version with the automatic transmission and I don't like it, it is very efficient, but it is veery jerky and annoying on downhills
Thomas, which one is better - Octavia 2024 Facelift or this new Golf 8.5? Thanks
ruclips.net/video/4sCHZTQXt50/видео.htmlsi=PfdhayG01EPJ_y4f
Octavia offers more space for sure
But u rather have to compare it with the Golf Variant
@@autogefuehl thanks. Last question. And what about ride quality and noise? golf has mcferson while Octavia has torsion beam. Does that feel different according to you
I need to re check but as far as i remember they change to multi link if u have more than 150 hp and it is maybe also included in DCC. I gotta ask
1.5 tsi mhev With dsg?
1.5 tsi with manual?
yes. The mild hybrid push system is build inside the gearbox. That is the reason that dsg gets mild hybrid but the manual does not. In the case of Ford Focus and Mazda the mild hybrid electric motor is attached to the crankshaft by pulleys so it always comes with it.
The outside styling is much better that the original Golf 8, but way too much piano black and chrome plastics inside
About 10-12 years ago, a BMW 335i with a twin-turbo 3-liter engine cost 41.850 euros, or 44.000 if you added the M-Sport package. A new Golf for that price is simply bad value. Gone are the days when customers got great value on their money.
And a BMW of this Power is now at 100k today.
If you add the Inflation year by year for the 12 Years, you will easily end at this price of the Golf...and you never got something like a Travel Assist, which I love.
@@josefv-y8m "Inflation" is the bullsh*t they make you swallow and you are happy to do it. Have people's salaries doubled in the last 10 years for the same work ? NO.
The new face-lift is well worth
why cant they make just a simple car that cost less , dont need to change the appearance of the speedometer , dont want the engine off at lights
Hello Thomas. As usually professional test. One question: any rumors about GTD version?
Thanks 🙏 defo no GTD
Vw really is listening and improving again. But it is still far to go back to golf 7.5 materials and quality. And thank got its stll manual. Better car and great video Thomas!
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When do we get to see an in depth review of the mk8.5 GTI?
As soon as available! Probably September
Once again asking VW to bring the Golf back to Canada. The Taos doesn't even come close, and not everyone can afford or wants to spend on a GTI! We're not the USA, we love hatchbacks and wagons still, albeit less than we used to. The Golf used to fill that spot for a practical car that's more than basic transport, but not quite into luxury or performance. Now there's just a void here. This Mk8 refresh, especially the hybrid looks like it would fill in nicely.
The wheels and Pale Grey interior colours on the previous model were much nicer