It shouldn't se surprising that it's sad and that the Kents are in despair. The Absolute universe was LITERALLY made by Darkseid, the opposite of hope.
Exactly! I mean, fuck the Absolute Wonder woman cut her dominant arm off. That reveal was CRAZY. It shows the mental fortitude of these characters. Even in universes with everything stacked against em, they still find that light, that hope, and that desire to make things better. Something the main DC universe has STRUGGLED to capture even half as well. Such a great line so far from the Absolute universe.
My guess is that Kal did live with the Kents for a while, but left when Lazarus Corp bought the farm from under them, likely leading to Johnathan dying. That drove Kal to want to take Lazarus Corp down once and for all.
@@EGRJ This series implies that Kal came to Earth when he was a young adult (and also Krypton was never destroyed, it just got super fascist), so he'd be more an unofficial son than a legal one.
The world of Absolute Superman is so damn intriguing. I'm really enjoying Absolute Batman for it's pacing and how cut and dry the changes to established lore are, save a few mysteries yet unsolved. But I love how Absolute Superman is basically doing the opposite, Superman's past is just as important of a narrative as the present conflict with Lazarus Corp is.
Him being older on Krypton and actually raised by his birth parts is such a wonderful addition. Also a gut wrenching one that takes some of the innocence away from Kal-El. This is a Kal-El that watched his home wither away and his people be abandoned by a ruling class that didn't care for them and just seems tired seeing it happen all over again on Earth, but he can't help but try to help.
I think somehow that Martha Kent was somehow not completely affected by Darkseid's rewrite of the Absolute Universe, and thus she has memories of the Prime DC universe that conflict with her reality, probably as a result of her dementia.
Maybe they're going for sometime unique Absolute Martha has the same memories as Prime-Martha so she's tormented with a life she never lived abd while she knows the truth, everyone else thinks she just an old lady with severe dementia
Random tidbit for the youngsters that have yet to deal with this one: Hospice care can also be called "Make them comfortable care." It is where someone goes to die. They simply try to keep them comfortable however they can.
the kents more then likely still were just as kind and welcoming to kal-el when he arrived, taking him in and teaching him about their world. they are the good he sees in humanity as always and the ones who prove he has a place on earth. given that with lazarus corp is causing the same suffer the concil did on krypton, the only differance is now Kal can make a differance.
Lazarus Corps seems to be the lynch pin for the Absolute Universe that'll be uniting all the Heroes. I wouldn't be surprised if Wonder Woman's story will tie into the Lazarus Corps in some way or another.
@@shadowsonicsilver6seeing how Batman just figured out that Arkham is being used to make metahumans. It wouldn't surprise me that another group tied to the government is suddenly gonna be interested in magic in WW
My guess is that Martha is somehow able to hold onto her other versions' memories about raising Clark and her role would be to reveal to any heroes, that are willing to listen to her, that this universe is being controlled by DarkSied's will. How it will play out is up to the creator.
Dude the absolute series is so fucking good, I haven’t read wonder woman yet but absolute Batman and ESPECIALLY Superman gave me hooked line and sinker
I think Martha is a relic of what happened, a shard of evidence that could either A, Kickstart an investigation to Kal's existence, possibly by Batman, or will be used as evidence to build a case against Braniac. Or she could just he a plot device for Kal to grow as a person.
Does anybody else want, when the mainline universe inevitably crosses over with the absolute one, the main point of contact to be the new trinity of Damien, Jon, and Lizzie? I'd feel that probably have the most oomph when it eventually happens.
If absolute batman were to meet absolute superman, I imagine they would have their rivalry, but I can totally see them quickly getting past their differences as a whole, I honestly want to see an absolute version of the entire justice league.
Well given that everyone thats the parent figure to the big 3 basically continued the life they had before they became "who they are" Alfred being the espionage master. Circe becoming mother to WM instead of foe I think the Kents were still the kind people they were. Decent folk.
Martha Kent is going to be an active motivator and character driver for Clark. Of the DC Trio, superman is the GOOD man. She will make him realize he has to be the hope. HE has to be that person. Batman is the head, wonderwoman is the body, he is the heart. Batman, obvi why. Ww, is THE HERO! The icon of being the hero people need. Superman is the heart to keep the good. Martha will turn clark into the heart (so to say)
Honestly a little of both like yea she's dying and he will have to see her eventually but once she dies he's going to make a choice get angry and go after everything that destroyed her or take some of the blame and become the hero that will eventually fight darkside and I have a weird feeling booster gold is here to help with that eventual choice (note I have barely read sups comics but I do know a hero choice moment when I see it)
Jesus Darkseid when making this universe really did look at Superman and go "I will make you the ABSOLUTE most miserable person in this entire universe of mine"
I feel like the state that Martha is in will kinda give Clark that kinda raw and emotional drive to get shit done essentially and hopefully HOPEFULLY she lives
I know where this is going, martha will mistaken kal as clark, clark going on with it out of his compassion, then he would relate to the kents circumstances because it's mirrors his own
Wouldn’t it be crazy if they made Kal-El and Clark Kent two separate people in this. I have three ideas if this is the case- One is A heart broken Martha and Johnathan adopted a teen Kal El and raised him as their Clark after Clark died suddenly and they understood Kal El is just an innocent kid in need of a home. Or Superman grew up on the flight to earth and his crash is why Jonathan died but Clark was captured by Lazarus corps and held prisoner because he was a first encounter. Or Same as the second theory but Clark died and it’s part of the coverup and Superman will take Clark’s place once he gets Martha free since he conveniently looks just like him and that’s how Superman will get a secret identity.
Could be, but If You are suggesting she is His mother, it doesnt fit age wise. One could argue that supercharging themself with solar radiation ages them super fast or something, but that doesnt fit with Kals age. I would guess she and her man we're the ones who found and helped the Low Class kryptonians (remember, in this Version, Most people survived its destruction) until Lazarus came. Like that Kind grandma that showed them all, Humanity can be good and can be safed.
I think the Kents did have a son but when Lazarus came, they ended up killing the son and then erased all records of him. You can't be responsible for murder if that person doesn't exist.
I think it might tie into braniac like braniac came cause they saw something in smallville maybe a person. Clark! And when they somehow found out that he lives on the kent farm they went to the kent farm and tried to take clark but he refused so there was a clash between them and the frm got destroyed and sadly I think pa died in the clash well that’s my theory
Idk that's a good question I haven't thought of it 3 is sitting upstairs only issue I haven't read yet I think she will represent Clark's person stakes in all of this the Kent's always represent Superman's human ties to us as a ppl being a god amongst men but in absolute he was raised by his parents this time and comes to earth closer to kara zor El's age than a baby as traditional so it's is again a very interesting question
Odds are, Al Ghul is involved with Lazarus Corp too, you don't just snatch up the name without him As for whats going on, maybe this Martha isn't the original, you mentioned cities in bottles, the one dying might be in one of those, a world modified to have no Clark Kent or Superman, but she is still herself and needs him... maybe as a literal lure, if Absolute Supes is anywhere approaching Prime-Universe Superman's power set, the sound of her wailing would set him off like nothing else
I mean it could be as Lazarus is the name of man who return from the grave which fits Ra's plus Absolute Batman confirmed the league of shadows exist and trained The Joker. Maybe Ra's, Joker and Brainiac are starting this grand conspiracy seeing how it's stated that heroes in this universe are more connected to the military. Absolute Flash's version of the rogues seem to be military members which seems to fit the Lazarus corps connection to the gov
Clearly Martha Kent from the prime universe was brought over to suffer by Darkseid so she, her memories and that picture are not from the current universe.
Since there's no recond of them formally adopting Clark/Kal They probably tried keeping it on the DL for a few years but having a baby in your late 30's to early 40's raises far less eyebrows then someone in their late sixties adopting a teenager who's way stronger, faster then Olympic athletes. Laz corp most likely gave Pa Kent the uncle ben treatment and the damage to the house was Clark going ballistic losing another father in the span of a few years.
We actually dont know If He lost His parents in that Version. It could be, but If He did, its probably because of Lazarus in earth. They specifically told him "you are almost right. But we are Coming with you and Take as many people as possible". Kal is very likely Not the Last kryptonian, and probably Not the strongest one without His battlesuit.
what if clark kent was seperated from Kal El. in this universe Kal El had Identical twin seperated at birth. Due to Krypton tradition where twin was saught as bad omen so twin was sent to space to avoid cruel faith. landed on earth adopted by Kents. however when clark had power awaken he killed jonathan by accident and destroyed kent farm when Lazarous Corp showed up try to capture clark. clark turns out his exposure to yellow Sun throughout his life turned his flame blue. he was captured by Lazarous Corp and locked up and slowly turning into Anti- superman weapon.
Probably not. In this story Kal didn't come to Earth until after he was already a teenager. So if he was The Kent's son, it was more of a honorary term than legal.
The absolute universe is DC, yet again ruining themselves by saying, "we could outsell Marvel if only we do what they do." Instead of letting the characters and their own personalities shine, do I need to remind everyone that DC still sucks because they refuse to just go scorced earth on shit added by new 52 AKA the last time they pulled the "outsell Marvel by copying them" plan????
There is a big chance, Superman still landed in the Kent's farm and the old couple help him but thing go south, and Jonathan Kent either died or it's this Brainiac
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I read Absolute Superman #3 and there’s a revelation that makes me REALLY HATE the Science Ruling Class on Krypton.
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It shouldn't se surprising that it's sad and that the Kents are in despair. The Absolute universe was LITERALLY made by Darkseid, the opposite of hope.
Yet, he only maked the hope to burn brighter
Exactly! I mean, fuck the Absolute Wonder woman cut her dominant arm off. That reveal was CRAZY. It shows the mental fortitude of these characters. Even in universes with everything stacked against em, they still find that light, that hope, and that desire to make things better.
Something the main DC universe has STRUGGLED to capture even half as well. Such a great line so far from the Absolute universe.
@@zviax a ray of hope shines brightest amidst the darkest despair.
I am legit hoping to see Darkseid get an absolute asskicking by the end
I notice the absolute trinity having motherly figures in their lives. But it seems like they all have different problems.
Marvel has daddy issues, absolute DC has mommy issues.
Marvel starts with an m. DC starts with a d (detective comics)
My guess is that Kal did live with the Kents for a while, but left when Lazarus Corp bought the farm from under them, likely leading to Johnathan dying. That drove Kal to want to take Lazarus Corp down once and for all.
And then they erase the records of Clark's existence to make things easier for them?
@@EGRJ This series implies that Kal came to Earth when he was a young adult (and also Krypton was never destroyed, it just got super fascist), so he'd be more an unofficial son than a legal one.
@@jordanloux3883 so... The total meltdown the planet was shown to be facing was just a farce?
Clark on his Batman "Vengeance" behavior
@@jordanloux3883 then what about his kripton parents they made a ship big enough for all 4 of them
The world of Absolute Superman is so damn intriguing. I'm really enjoying Absolute Batman for it's pacing and how cut and dry the changes to established lore are, save a few mysteries yet unsolved. But I love how Absolute Superman is basically doing the opposite, Superman's past is just as important of a narrative as the present conflict with Lazarus Corp is.
Him being older on Krypton and actually raised by his birth parts is such a wonderful addition. Also a gut wrenching one that takes some of the innocence away from Kal-El. This is a Kal-El that watched his home wither away and his people be abandoned by a ruling class that didn't care for them and just seems tired seeing it happen all over again on Earth, but he can't help but try to help.
I think somehow that Martha Kent was somehow not completely affected by Darkseid's rewrite of the Absolute Universe, and thus she has memories of the Prime DC universe that conflict with her reality, probably as a result of her dementia.
Haven't read the comics yet but, she might be the reason why Superman decides to become the HOPE OF HUMANITY
I have a feel she's going to give this version of Kal-El his new name, just like how Louis gave him his alias.
Louis? Who's that?
@tygrkhat4087 I meant Lois not Louis XD
Maybe they're going for sometime unique Absolute Martha has the same memories as Prime-Martha so she's tormented with a life she never lived abd while she knows the truth, everyone else thinks she just an old lady with severe dementia
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Random tidbit for the youngsters that have yet to deal with this one: Hospice care can also be called "Make them comfortable care." It is where someone goes to die. They simply try to keep them comfortable however they can.
the kents more then likely still were just as kind and welcoming to kal-el when he arrived, taking him in and teaching him about their world.
they are the good he sees in humanity as always and the ones who prove he has a place on earth. given that with lazarus corp is causing the same suffer the concil did on krypton, the only differance is now Kal can make a differance.
I think this is show the gravity of the lazures corp and play a role for superman to do the right thing and go up againt the foundation of this corp
Lazarus Corps seems to be the lynch pin for the Absolute Universe that'll be uniting all the Heroes. I wouldn't be surprised if Wonder Woman's story will tie into the Lazarus Corps in some way or another.
@@shadowsonicsilver6seeing how Batman just figured out that Arkham is being used to make metahumans. It wouldn't surprise me that another group tied to the government is suddenly gonna be interested in magic in WW
I believe it will be like when Spiderman lost Aunt May in the first Insomniac Spiderman game.
I've been saying this since issue 1. Absolute Superman draws heavily from the Golden Age Superman.
How?
Glad you caught the picture
I think he did meet the Kent's and they did raise him in his teen years but Lazarus came after them he fled to try and keep them safe
@@kingofnonation5843 they should definitely do that
@BrandonYanes-v2z it would explain why he has such a thing for Lazarus corp specifically.
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My guess is that Martha is somehow able to hold onto her other versions' memories about raising Clark and her role would be to reveal to any heroes, that are willing to listen to her, that this universe is being controlled by DarkSied's will. How it will play out is up to the creator.
they are giving the aunt may treatment in sony spiderman game
Dude the absolute series is so fucking good, I haven’t read wonder woman yet but absolute Batman and ESPECIALLY Superman gave me hooked line and sinker
The nurses being unable to see the photo by the bedside is the most unrealistic bs in the series😂
I think Martha is a relic of what happened, a shard of evidence that could either A, Kickstart an investigation to Kal's existence, possibly by Batman, or will be used as evidence to build a case against Braniac. Or she could just he a plot device for Kal to grow as a person.
Aw hell na, they done turned Martha Kent into Uncle Ben 😭😭😭
Calling it now Brainiac killed John Kent Clark is on a rampage of ruining Lazarus corp and helping those they effected.
I have a theory that the kent family is basically the el family
Does anybody else want, when the mainline universe inevitably crosses over with the absolute one, the main point of contact to be the new trinity of Damien, Jon, and Lizzie? I'd feel that probably have the most oomph when it eventually happens.
Bro, Imagine if Sulerman pulls a Luigi cause they stopped his moms health care while she's bed ridden o.O
I'm calling it now, Smallville is in Brainiac's lab.
If absolute batman were to meet absolute superman, I imagine they would have their rivalry, but I can totally see them quickly getting past their differences as a whole, I honestly want to see an absolute version of the entire justice league.
martha kent is going to be clark's uncle ben and his undying faith in humanity.
Well given that everyone thats the parent figure to the big 3 basically continued the life they had before they became "who they are"
Alfred being the espionage master.
Circe becoming mother to WM instead of foe
I think the Kents were still the kind people they were. Decent folk.
Superman and his parents successfully left Kandor and adopted the Kent name as an alliance to live under.
Martha Kent is going to be an active motivator and character driver for Clark. Of the DC Trio, superman is the GOOD man. She will make him realize he has to be the hope. HE has to be that person. Batman is the head, wonderwoman is the body, he is the heart. Batman, obvi why. Ww, is THE HERO! The icon of being the hero people need. Superman is the heart to keep the good.
Martha will turn clark into the heart (so to say)
Honestly a little of both like yea she's dying and he will have to see her eventually but once she dies he's going to make a choice get angry and go after everything that destroyed her or take some of the blame and become the hero that will eventually fight darkside and I have a weird feeling booster gold is here to help with that eventual choice (note I have barely read sups comics but I do know a hero choice moment when I see it)
Jesus Darkseid when making this universe really did look at Superman and go "I will make you the ABSOLUTE most miserable person in this entire universe of mine"
I feel like the state that Martha is in will kinda give Clark that kinda raw and emotional drive to get shit done essentially and hopefully HOPEFULLY she lives
I guess this Braniac is one of the higher caste Kryptonian that escaped the planet before it explodes.
Isnt he still a computer program?
I know where this is going, martha will mistaken kal as clark, clark going on with it out of his compassion, then he would relate to the kents circumstances because it's mirrors his own
Of she is 100 precent telling the truth they had clark land in their fields and and they did try to raise him but brainc found out about superman
Wouldn’t it be crazy if they made Kal-El and Clark Kent two separate people in this.
I have three ideas if this is the case-
One is A heart broken Martha and Johnathan adopted a teen Kal El and raised him as their Clark after Clark died suddenly and they understood Kal El is just an innocent kid in need of a home.
Or
Superman grew up on the flight to earth and his crash is why Jonathan died but Clark was captured by Lazarus corps and held prisoner because he was a first encounter.
Or
Same as the second theory but Clark died and it’s part of the coverup and Superman will take Clark’s place once he gets Martha free since he conveniently looks just like him and that’s how Superman will get a secret identity.
I really love absolute superman he's amazing
God this is depressing as heck.😢
I think she's got fragments and can remember the previous universe and has a photo from it
Theory: Martha, remember the world before the absolute event.
My working theory from the newest issue is that Kal’s parents made it to earth with him, and adopted more human names to blend in and live in hiding.
Could be, but If You are suggesting she is His mother, it doesnt fit age wise. One could argue that supercharging themself with solar radiation ages them super fast or something, but that doesnt fit with Kals age.
I would guess she and her man we're the ones who found and helped the Low Class kryptonians (remember, in this Version, Most people survived its destruction) until Lazarus came. Like that Kind grandma that showed them all, Humanity can be good and can be safed.
@@mordiHarbingerit's possible that once Clark got to earth his parents died on the way so he was adopted as a tween or a teen by The Kents.
Something, Something, Multiverse.
I think the Kents did have a son but when Lazarus came, they ended up killing the son and then erased all records of him. You can't be responsible for murder if that person doesn't exist.
She might be a key role for superman's backstory and what makes superman form the justice league to combat brainiac
I think it might tie into braniac like braniac came cause they saw something in smallville maybe a person. Clark! And when they somehow found out that he lives on the kent farm they went to the kent farm and tried to take clark but he refused so there was a clash between them and the frm got destroyed and sadly I think pa died in the clash well that’s my theory
Better question for me is. How the heck is brainiac on earth working with a corporation.
Oh shoot, i missed that bedside picture!!
I think Darkseid is doing this to break Superman & his spirit.
Idk that's a good question I haven't thought of it 3 is sitting upstairs only issue I haven't read yet I think she will represent Clark's person stakes in all of this the Kent's always represent Superman's human ties to us as a ppl being a god amongst men but in absolute he was raised by his parents this time and comes to earth closer to kara zor El's age than a baby as traditional so it's is again a very interesting question
I wonder if the Blue Lanterns are going to have a big play later on.
shes going to be the uncle ben for clark
Maybe she has the memory's of the original time line? Iv seen this before but it's just a theory
Odds are, Al Ghul is involved with Lazarus Corp too, you don't just snatch up the name without him
As for whats going on, maybe this Martha isn't the original, you mentioned cities in bottles, the one dying might be in one of those, a world modified to have no Clark Kent or Superman, but she is still herself and needs him... maybe as a literal lure, if Absolute Supes is anywhere approaching Prime-Universe Superman's power set, the sound of her wailing would set him off like nothing else
I mean it could be as Lazarus is the name of man who return from the grave which fits Ra's plus Absolute Batman confirmed the league of shadows exist and trained The Joker.
Maybe Ra's, Joker and Brainiac are starting this grand conspiracy seeing how it's stated that heroes in this universe are more connected to the military.
Absolute Flash's version of the rogues seem to be military members which seems to fit the Lazarus corps connection to the gov
Clearly Martha Kent from the prime universe was brought over to suffer by Darkseid so she, her memories and that picture are not from the current universe.
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Since there's no recond of them formally adopting Clark/Kal They probably tried keeping it on the DL for a few years but having a baby in your late 30's to early 40's raises far less eyebrows then someone in their late sixties adopting a teenager who's way stronger, faster then Olympic athletes. Laz corp most likely gave Pa Kent the uncle ben treatment and the damage to the house was Clark going ballistic losing another father in the span of a few years.
We actually dont know If He lost His parents in that Version. It could be, but If He did, its probably because of Lazarus in earth. They specifically told him "you are almost right. But we are Coming with you and Take as many people as possible".
Kal is very likely Not the Last kryptonian, and probably Not the strongest one without His battlesuit.
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Idk. That kinda sounds like a plot hole, he should be on record saying he's her son adopted or not
what if clark kent was seperated from Kal El. in this universe Kal El had Identical twin seperated at birth. Due to Krypton tradition where twin was saught as bad omen so twin was sent to space to avoid cruel faith. landed on earth adopted by Kents. however when clark had power awaken he killed jonathan by accident and destroyed kent farm when Lazarous Corp showed up try to capture clark. clark turns out his exposure to yellow Sun throughout his life turned his flame blue. he was captured by Lazarous Corp and locked up and slowly turning into Anti- superman weapon.
With how dc has been rolling lately watch her be specter or something
From Where is the image from the beginning
A victim of Lazarus corp the company got rid her son then erased any records of him
Probably not. In this story Kal didn't come to Earth until after he was already a teenager. So if he was The Kent's son, it was more of a honorary term than legal.
So in this universe one Martha is alive and has a good relationship with his son, and the other one is very sick and estranged from her son.
Only tho g we know for sure is her story is most likely not gonna have a happy ending
The absolute universe is DC, yet again ruining themselves by saying, "we could outsell Marvel if only we do what they do." Instead of letting the characters and their own personalities shine, do I need to remind everyone that DC still sucks because they refuse to just go scorced earth on shit added by new 52 AKA the last time they pulled the "outsell Marvel by copying them" plan????
im just glad amanda waller has nothing to do with this...
I wonder how Lois looks in this universe
She's part of the private military squad for the Lazarus Corp.
I think Martha Kent may be superman's biological mom Lara
There is a big chance, Superman still landed in the Kent's farm and the old couple help him but thing go south, and Jonathan Kent either died or it's this Brainiac
I wouldn't be shocked if Lazarus Corp pumped some kind of chemicals into the land around the farm that got Jonathan sick.
Wait... they hire Spidey's writer?
Save Martha
She will become Doomsday.
Under 10 mins? Ill take it.
She is bait. To lure superman.
Sad scenes.
I don’t think it’s Martha Kent at all I think it’s his bio parents after they made it off of krypton
In that case why are there records for HER and not Kal?
Her role? Dying old lady? Hate to make things difficult for you
Basically
This is what if a lefty created the dc universe kind of story hahaha
Absolute trash. this is the ultimates for DC. the worst universe possible so the writers can maim and abuse the heroes to their hearts content.
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She is evidence
The entire setting sounds horrible and nihilistic.
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Absolute…ly no hope.
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I'm just not liking any of these books; more power to those who do, but this isn't for me.
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Let’s hope they don’t put this in in the movie
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