Same here. I've been surprised with even Sony and Canon cameras holding up fairly ok in terrible midday lighting. I do a show were sometimes we shoot outdoors with C300s midday in awful lighting and because of the type or show, resources and blocking we can't use much to fix issues, but a lot of times as long as you expose right I'm surprised at how "not" bad it looks. I'm not saying it looks great, I'm saying it ends up being better than expected.
@@magji2000 yeah I mean midday is more “boring” than terrible, in my mind. I’ve shot in some terrrrrrible situations. Think a dark room with everyone wearing all black 😂 now that’s hard!
Being able to use available light is such a useful skill to have as a cinematographer. I've shot entire short films that way, it's a really fun challenge
Well, that was insightful. The ultimate test now would be this plus genuinely not knowing anything about composition/framing/blocking/depth etc.. I've noticed that people with good filmmaking experience tend to just... shoot nice shots. You hand them a camera, and they find good shots. Once you know what you're doing, it actually becomes difficult to achieve the sheer quantity of "mistakes" a novice can make. Lighting is powerful, but still only one piece of cinematography. If you get most pieces of the puzzle right, it tends to come out pretty good. The Alexa 35 certainly helps the poor lighting be especially forgivable though, which only aids this situation further. I'd love to see this camera up against truly amateur work. At the same time though, it's hard to film a telephoto shot of horse riders cresting a hill and make it look not-awesome. As they always say, its about what you put in front of the lens.
Thanks so much for this video! My small, low-budget production doesn't have enough cash for lighting, so now i know that all we need is an Arri Alexa 35 and we'll be just fine!
Basically it is mostly Dynamic Range- the more of that you can capture the more your colorist can create a look impost- essentially 'light in post' (which Resolve is definitely able to do...) As long as the data is there you can go anywhere with a look. BUT - creating that look on set both 'locks in' your vision and saves a a lot of time and money later (though lighting big scenes may be cheaper to do in post anyway...)
We all know that lighting is 10x more important than the camera. However we cannot always control the lighting. A camera like the 35 opens up doors that simply cannot be attained with the prosumer level gear that I’m rocking. My c70 is awesome but the shadow detail and highlight retention this thing offers makes me want to go buy a lottery ticket.
I think what's interesting is that if you look at movies that were completely unlit, like with no modifiers or fixtures. You got movies like All about Lily Chou Chou that shot on the sony f900 with maybe 6-7 stops of dynamic range and objective it looks videoish and digital, but then you look at movies like buddha mountain, also completely unlit shot on fuji eterna 35mm film and masterprimes, it suddenly looks so much nicer, or burning, a korean movie that was also shot completely unlit on alexa mini and masterprimes, also looks amazing, Almost feels like having a really good camera makes way more of a difference in "bad lighting", where as if you have a beautiful lit scene the gap between a cheap/bad camera and an amazing camera is way less obvious.
Interesting. All 3 of the movies you mentioned I really like. The last 2 in particular. I always tought Lily Chou Chou looked digital, but beautiful. It embraces the digital look as opposed to masking it. There is a movie from the same filmmaker called A Bride for Rip Van Winkle that is almost an evolution of Lily Chou Chou and it looks amazing. Are you sure Burning was shot without additional lights? For example the invisible fruit scene in the bar at night would look terrible with just the bar lights. I shot in bars and I know how hard it is if you shoot like that, because of the difference between multiple light sources and the bad quality of the lights. One last question. Is there a good web site where they analyse the cinematography of different movies, like the type of camera, lenses lights, grading and so on? Thanks and sorry about potential mistakes as I'm not a native English speaker.
@@matango1979 Lily chou chou is actually my favorite movie of all time! I hundred percent agree that it is a movie that embraces that digital look, and despite that a lot of the shots are absolutely gorgeous still, goes to show you don't have to have all the dynamic range and resolution in the world to make a pretty shot, and I'm a huge fan of shunji iwai too! With burning in particular though they did do some very minimal lighting setups for certain shots, no where near as complicated as most western movies, and the cinematographer still strived to keep shots as unlit as possible. I think it's very interesting how Asian movies almost use the completely not lit as a big part of their aesthetic, and even now I seldom see many complicated lighting setups in narrative works like k-dramas and movies as I worked on quite a few of them.
As an amateur, most of my filming is taking home videos of my kids, where I don't have the ability to modify the lighting. These tips are incredibly useful!
I think it's part of habit. You usually wear black so you wouldn't be seen in reflective surfaces. A guy in white shirt would be very visible if reflected on black car for example
It helps to have a nice camera...but trash lighting give trash results. You made the best out of a bad situation and it looks decent. But choosing the wrong angles will ruin your shots for sure.
First shot reminds me of a basic commercial, like someone rented an expensive camera and just shot some stuff with it. It looks great actually, it’s a specific vibe.
How would the same exacts shots look with the C70 :P ? would it actually work just as fine :D ? The composition and blocking is always key to get good shots. But must say... it does have some good DR that ARRI hehe.. looks good.
This is basically how they filmed Dune. They planned shoots based on light direction and used the massive dynamic range of Arri cameras to get that nice falloff. I think there were some shots where they used light modifiers, but it seems like most of it was natural and looked great. You don't need an Arri to shoot like this though, I just shot a short film on my A7IV using almost entirely natural light and an app called "sun seeker" to figure out the sun's direction in advance. Modern cameras are generally really good at retaining highlights.
I think you could do it (film a movie just with available light) - but everything would be in the planning and locaion choice. I also think it could get a little crunchy with night interiors.
The dynamic range helps a lot. Putting the subject in the shadows was more flattering for her, while the bright background had some detail. A lesser camera would have fallen apart quicker. The inside shots by the window looked decent. The direct overhead sun shots were the roughest. I wonder how a person with a bounce card near the camera would have helped. Like the next test being no lights, but a single reflector???
30 seconds in, and the matter is resolved. Personally, I like natural lighting in all its variety, used as appropriate to subject. This is actually why I starting shooting Blackmagic RAW for documentary when adequate storage became available, circa 2014. I never had any control over anything. 12-bit RAW and a cinema camera with more latitude (compared to DSLR or video camera) worked basically like this video demo. It shifted half the job into post where I can control everything👍
Nice. Stay hydrated. Would love to have seen some Sony A7s3/FX3 shots and some black magic in there to compare... especially in the worst of conditions.
I've shot enough stuff with Alexa and Alexa LF cameras to know that, yes, it always looks better on Arri. There's nothing you can do about it: they nailed the right color science and the dynamic range is just amazing. You don't need an Arri if you know what you're doing and there are many instances where using one is not feasible (budget aside, they are heavy and not that compact, even the mini versions), but in the back of your heard you're always thinking "jeez, I wish I had one of those...."
I feel like we’re all impressed because this was shot on an Arri but objectively speaking these shots didn’t look great, specifically because of the light. doesn’t matter if you’re using the best equipment if the light quality is bad
WOW!!! to be honest, indeed i see the image GREAT!!!!! even without lightning..... WOW again!!!! Never thought this could be...... of course, grading is GREAT!!!!! Thanks for sharing!!!!!!
As long as your framing and composition is good, you can still get cinematic shots in challenging lighting conditions. And yes, lighting is more important than what camera you have.
You also have a 100mm Atlas Orion anamorphic, and you cleverly used the sun as a backlight. You also have a decent LUT that took the already good Arri color science and made it tasty.
IMHO it looks amazing! Obviously, having the right person with the right set of skills helps a lot. Still, I think it looks great, dynamic range is outstanding! This camera + some great lighting and you'd get masterpiece.
This is why I love Festen. By limiting the technical freedoms, it shows how unessential so much of it is, and how the writing, performances, blocking and editing matters above all else.
Great video! It would be interesting to see a side by side comparison for example with a red komodo and sony fx3, all shot with the same lens, because it's not the camera which makes the image look good (besides composition). Most of the time it's the lens that creates the look of the image. Sure the ARRI has the best DR to recover highlights and shadows, but I am sure that a red komodo oder fx3 can achieve similar good looking images when shot with the same lens and same composition. You don't need the best camera to be able to shoot just with natural light in "horrible" conditions :)
Dynamic range, color science, lens choice, color grading , and composition can do a lot of the heavy lifting if you’re in a pinch. You don’t always need perfect lighting for every project. Many award winning Documentaries were filmed with a journalistic Run and Gun style.
Cheap doesn't mean bad. They shot a lot of Dune 2 on vintage Russian lenses that are like $30-100 each without rehousing. And personally, I don't think the Atlas lenses are amazing
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It is sure that with my 8 bits camera, i will never have this result ! dynamic range, color science , quality ... it is an evidence that there is a big difference. Even without Light, it looks good.
The sun is absolutely positively NOT the “worst lighting”. To test this you should have been outside at night or in a very dark room or something. We shoot TV shows and movies in the middle of the day sunlight all the time, just gotta use it right
in my opinion, the Arri is great! It does offer an image that is cinematic, But in the right hands with good glass it can go further. I think since it was in your hands you obtain a cinematic image because you knew what you were doing. Understanding light, composition, and depth etc. Put it in the wrong hands they'll think its an overrated camera because they don't know what they are doing.
I really wanted to confess that I did, in fact, subscribe to your channel. I felt compelled to share this with you and also that, despite your recommendation, I will NOT be unsubscribing. I repeat, I will NOT be unsubscribing. Hopefully, I have not ru8ned your day. Cheers
A whole video on one small comment, that's why I'm not subscribed to this channel. Seriously though I appreciate you going out at 110°, take the time with the team and do some science.
yes, it still looks good, yes it is good enough for low budget movie or music video. if you really know what you are doing you can get a good image with just a natural lights, it's all about the composition a clever shots. do you need alexa 35 for that? no, you could get alexa classic that would get you 95% there at a 5% price.
For some reason I was unsibscribed from this channel (I must have taken your advice), but now that this video poped up for me, I wanted to say that its so good to have you back, then I realized it was me, who was gone, not you :DDD Anyway, Im happy I found you again, and I subsrcibed again! :D
I’m not sure it has as much latitude as film though. I shot a short film on s16 entirely outside with no lights or modifiers, and even in the digitized version, there was so much latitude. The workprint was just bonkers in terms of latitude.
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The shots in bright daylight on you and the Arri look great too !
some movies are shot midday depending on the narrative, so this isnt the *worst* lighting, i expected an indoor cheap light with flickering and a greenish tint
I’m just saying, that camera is doing A LOT of work that many cameras wouldn’t do, even in the hands of the same composer. Considering the original commenter was probably engaging in a bit of hyperbole, I would say his comment is not baseless. In the interest of fairness, this was also not a “zero lighting” video. From the moment he looked at the shadows and picked an angle based on it, there was some cinematography involved. Even more so when you go to an open window. Is it good enough to shoot a short film on? I think the only scenario where this would be your choice is if for some crazy reason you have access to an Arri and nothing else. Because I think you can get better results with lighting control and a lesser camera. BUT that doesn’t have anything to do with the original comment. Overall I thought this video was fun and I applaud you for giving this comment a much fairer test than many would’ve!
Nah, those Orions and the Cameraman really did the trick with this video. The only part of Arri was the dynamic range which can be controlled by the cameraman.
Is it still a low budget movie after you pay for a 30 day Alexa 35 rental? 😊 But with that cost aside, you’re then dealing with the limitations of the lenses used and how much contrast they can hold onto while shooting into the sun. The sensor sits behind the glass and can only record what manages to get through.
It’s crazy to see these comments say the image still looks good because it’s ARRI. Bro, I get the same exact image on my Sony a7siii . Has nothing to do with the camera. Has to do with lighting, composition & more. The reality is movies have huge budgets to hire crew to make a shot perfect. Your average run and gun videographer has none of this. We have to work with the resources we have and get creative.
I shoot a lot without light and a cinema camera unfortunately! ok it will never be as good as a controlled light setup but you can have footages way better with a bit of practice! So I don’t know how to feel after your video 😢
It definitely looks good but this video definitely shows the importance of a reflector to me, you don't always need a big light you can get away with minimal equipment on a bright day like this imo anyway.
I think you misunderstood the original comment. It said “even without any lighting.” I may be mistaken since it wasn’t me who wrote it but it sounded like they were talking about low light settings. I don’t really consider the kitchen shots low light. Yes, you would normally light that shot but if you were going for a more natural, doc style look, it wouldn’t look bad. So I’m more interested in seeing how it performs in actual low light without any extra lighting. Like, take one of those shots at night that they show with the FX3 and show how it does.
so its confirmed, all you need is an arri
not quite, i would say experience goes a longer way
Lol... Exactly!
ow yes! now you can shoot low budget films! just buy an arri first.. lmao
An arri, knowledge of cinematography and freaking Atlas anamorphics
I knew it!
Dynamic range is great, but in the end it's about composition.
great, maybe. the last shot with the cars did not hold up in color grading, highlights look terrible
next video: "Filming with the BEST CAMERA with the WORST COMPOSITION"
its kinda about everything
Composition is great but in the end it’s about story
When I read " Worst Lighting" I was thinking indoor low light.
Or mixed lighting situations or harsh light or really anything other than noon.
@@ShaneVaughan Low tungsten light with a random greenish fluorescent lamp flicking
Same here. I've been surprised with even Sony and Canon cameras holding up fairly ok in terrible midday lighting. I do a show were sometimes we shoot outdoors with C300s midday in awful lighting and because of the type or show, resources and blocking we can't use much to fix issues, but a lot of times as long as you expose right I'm surprised at how "not" bad it looks. I'm not saying it looks great, I'm saying it ends up being better than expected.
@@magji2000 yeah I mean midday is more “boring” than terrible, in my mind. I’ve shot in some terrrrrrible situations. Think a dark room with everyone wearing all black 😂 now that’s hard!
Wedding reception where the DJ brought his colored lights.
Being able to use available light is such a useful skill to have as a cinematographer. I've shot entire short films that way, it's a really fun challenge
cool!
Agree, that will be looks more realistic.
Well, that was insightful. The ultimate test now would be this plus genuinely not knowing anything about composition/framing/blocking/depth etc.. I've noticed that people with good filmmaking experience tend to just... shoot nice shots. You hand them a camera, and they find good shots. Once you know what you're doing, it actually becomes difficult to achieve the sheer quantity of "mistakes" a novice can make. Lighting is powerful, but still only one piece of cinematography. If you get most pieces of the puzzle right, it tends to come out pretty good. The Alexa 35 certainly helps the poor lighting be especially forgivable though, which only aids this situation further.
I'd love to see this camera up against truly amateur work. At the same time though, it's hard to film a telephoto shot of horse riders cresting a hill and make it look not-awesome. As they always say, its about what you put in front of the lens.
@@ConnerFoxx This video only confirmed to me that I'm totally fine with my pocket 4Ks and set of SLR magic APO hyperprimes 🤣🤣🤣
@@brettalexander.studioConvenient
The dynamic range is so good wow
Clean as hell. Even the LF blew me away after using it on a few projects.
Next you should film with the best lighting equipment and an average iphone (not one that can do log)
I think it should be done with a lower tier smartphone just to prove perfect lighting vs low dynamic range and color rendition
ARRI just makes everything look good even without lighting. Even without focus and composition. Just perfect.
lol
i wouldnt call that footage perfect... at all
That footage wasn’t really that great
Thanks so much for this video! My small, low-budget production doesn't have enough cash for lighting, so now i know that all we need is an Arri Alexa 35 and we'll be just fine!
Basically it is mostly Dynamic Range- the more of that you can capture the more your colorist can create a look impost- essentially 'light in post' (which Resolve is definitely able to do...) As long as the data is there you can go anywhere with a look. BUT - creating that look on set both 'locks in' your vision and saves a a lot of time and money later (though lighting big scenes may be cheaper to do in post anyway...)
that 40mm anamorphic lens shot looks amazing though...
that is what this camera was made for anamorphic 2x
his lens is 100mm
We all know that lighting is 10x more important than the camera. However we cannot always control the lighting. A camera like the 35 opens up doors that simply cannot be attained with the prosumer level gear that I’m rocking. My c70 is awesome but the shadow detail and highlight retention this thing offers makes me want to go buy a lottery ticket.
I think what's interesting is that if you look at movies that were completely unlit, like with no modifiers or fixtures. You got movies like All about Lily Chou Chou that shot on the sony f900 with maybe 6-7 stops of dynamic range and objective it looks videoish and digital, but then you look at movies like buddha mountain, also completely unlit shot on fuji eterna 35mm film and masterprimes, it suddenly looks so much nicer, or burning, a korean movie that was also shot completely unlit on alexa mini and masterprimes, also looks amazing, Almost feels like having a really good camera makes way more of a difference in "bad lighting", where as if you have a beautiful lit scene the gap between a cheap/bad camera and an amazing camera is way less obvious.
Interesting. All 3 of the movies you mentioned I really like. The last 2 in particular. I always tought Lily Chou Chou looked digital, but beautiful. It embraces the digital look as opposed to masking it. There is a movie from the same filmmaker called A Bride for Rip Van Winkle that is almost an evolution of Lily Chou Chou and it looks amazing. Are you sure Burning was shot without additional lights? For example the invisible fruit scene in the bar at night would look terrible with just the bar lights. I shot in bars and I know how hard it is if you shoot like that, because of the difference between multiple light sources and the bad quality of the lights.
One last question. Is there a good web site where they analyse the cinematography of different movies, like the type of camera, lenses lights, grading and so on?
Thanks and sorry about potential mistakes as I'm not a native English speaker.
@@matango1979 Lily chou chou is actually my favorite movie of all time! I hundred percent agree that it is a movie that embraces that digital look, and despite that a lot of the shots are absolutely gorgeous still, goes to show you don't have to have all the dynamic range and resolution in the world to make a pretty shot, and I'm a huge fan of shunji iwai too! With burning in particular though they did do some very minimal lighting setups for certain shots, no where near as complicated as most western movies, and the cinematographer still strived to keep shots as unlit as possible. I think it's very interesting how Asian movies almost use the completely not lit as a big part of their aesthetic, and even now I seldom see many complicated lighting setups in narrative works like k-dramas and movies as I worked on quite a few of them.
As an amateur, most of my filming is taking home videos of my kids, where I don't have the ability to modify the lighting. These tips are incredibly useful!
Why did you chose to wear black in 110 with direct beating sunlight?
while holding a full arri + easyrig whew the back sweat must be lethal
Better sun protection.
I think it's part of habit. You usually wear black so you wouldn't be seen in reflective surfaces. A guy in white shirt would be very visible if reflected on black car for example
Can you do these same shots, at the same time with Canon C70
That dog gets tangled up even more every time the scene changes lol
i'd like to see the same test with an URSA G2
I own one and trust me, It doesn’t hold up.
@@winstonli8081 what would you say makes it different?
It helps to have a nice camera...but trash lighting give trash results. You made the best out of a bad situation and it looks decent. But choosing the wrong angles will ruin your shots for sure.
"Lets get the worst lighting."
[goes to a location where the entire ground is a diffuse reflector]
Lighting from below looks terrible
@@piotrgraniszewski8544 Generally agreed, but that concrete pad is so large that it's filling in not only from below, but also on all sides.
First shot reminds me of a basic commercial, like someone rented an expensive camera and just shot some stuff with it. It looks great actually, it’s a specific vibe.
How would the same exacts shots look with the C70 :P ? would it actually work just as fine :D ?
The composition and blocking is always key to get good shots.
But must say... it does have some good DR that ARRI hehe.. looks good.
This is basically how they filmed Dune. They planned shoots based on light direction and used the massive dynamic range of Arri cameras to get that nice falloff. I think there were some shots where they used light modifiers, but it seems like most of it was natural and looked great. You don't need an Arri to shoot like this though, I just shot a short film on my A7IV using almost entirely natural light and an app called "sun seeker" to figure out the sun's direction in advance. Modern cameras are generally really good at retaining highlights.
The OP isn’t going to comment on this😂 you don’t need an Alexa, I think he’s showing his off.
Did this test with my Ursa Mini Pro, turned out great too.
I think you could do it (film a movie just with available light) - but everything would be in the planning and locaion choice. I also think it could get a little crunchy with night interiors.
The dynamic range helps a lot. Putting the subject in the shadows was more flattering for her, while the bright background had some detail. A lesser camera would have fallen apart quicker. The inside shots by the window looked decent. The direct overhead sun shots were the roughest. I wonder how a person with a bounce card near the camera would have helped. Like the next test being no lights, but a single reflector???
Did you turn off built in ND filter?
Respect for making this in that heat with a chunky camera!
Great video. I think in the end it's all about composition. Learnt a lot
The composition was key in this demonstration. The lighting is good enough for short social media ads.
30 seconds in, and the matter is resolved. Personally, I like natural lighting in all its variety, used as appropriate to subject. This is actually why I starting shooting Blackmagic RAW for documentary when adequate storage became available, circa 2014. I never had any control over anything. 12-bit RAW and a cinema camera with more latitude (compared to DSLR or video camera) worked basically like this video demo. It shifted half the job into post where I can control everything👍
Ok but this is unedited right? Imagine that DR after color grading and editing... this camera makes magic, is unbelievable.
What would be the best 'affordable' alternative for an Arri? Great video
Red Komodo X I think.
Nice. Stay hydrated. Would love to have seen some Sony A7s3/FX3 shots and some black magic in there to compare... especially in the worst of conditions.
That camera is just incredible!!
Those outdoor shots specifically with trees looks so good 😍
no need for lighting 🙅♂️
I've shot enough stuff with Alexa and Alexa LF cameras to know that, yes, it always looks better on Arri. There's nothing you can do about it: they nailed the right color science and the dynamic range is just amazing. You don't need an Arri if you know what you're doing and there are many instances where using one is not feasible (budget aside, they are heavy and not that compact, even the mini versions), but in the back of your heard you're always thinking "jeez, I wish I had one of those...."
I feel like we’re all impressed because this was shot on an Arri but objectively speaking these shots didn’t look great, specifically because of the light. doesn’t matter if you’re using the best equipment if the light quality is bad
i'm saying, these shots looked terrible. it didn't have a cinematic feel at all
WOW!!! to be honest, indeed i see the image GREAT!!!!! even without lightning..... WOW again!!!! Never thought this could be......
of course, grading is GREAT!!!!!
Thanks for sharing!!!!!!
As long as your framing and composition is good, you can still get cinematic shots in challenging lighting conditions. And yes, lighting is more important than what camera you have.
You also have a 100mm Atlas Orion anamorphic, and you cleverly used the sun as a backlight. You also have a decent LUT that took the already good Arri color science and made it tasty.
IMHO it looks amazing! Obviously, having the right person with the right set of skills helps a lot. Still, I think it looks great, dynamic range is outstanding! This camera + some great lighting and you'd get masterpiece.
This is why I love Festen. By limiting the technical freedoms, it shows how unessential so much of it is, and how the writing, performances, blocking and editing matters above all else.
Damn, that setup looks good!
Great video! It would be interesting to see a side by side comparison for example with a red komodo and sony fx3, all shot with the same lens, because it's not the camera which makes the image look good (besides composition). Most of the time it's the lens that creates the look of the image. Sure the ARRI has the best DR to recover highlights and shadows, but I am sure that a red komodo oder fx3 can achieve similar good looking images when shot with the same lens and same composition. You don't need the best camera to be able to shoot just with natural light in "horrible" conditions :)
Camera's nice, but your skill is what shines the most - you find the best compositions and light placements even in 'ugly' conditions
I think brother, did you use NDFilter?
Dynamic range, color science, lens choice, color grading , and composition can do a lot of the heavy lifting if you’re in a pinch. You don’t always need perfect lighting for every project. Many award winning Documentaries were filmed with a journalistic Run and Gun style.
well...try filming with a cheap lens vs an amazing lens like the one you were using. That also plays a role. The highlight recovery blew my mind
I did that with Matthew Duclos, comparing a Master Prime to a Canon Nifty Fifty on Arri Amiras: ruclips.net/video/UtWHa273CZY/видео.html
Cheap doesn't mean bad. They shot a lot of Dune 2 on vintage Russian lenses that are like $30-100 each without rehousing.
And personally, I don't think the Atlas lenses are amazing
ragazzi non è solo un discorso di CAMERA ma la combo tra camera e ottica, quest'ultima gioca un ruolo fondamentale sulle informazioni nei mezzi toni...
It is sure that with my 8 bits camera, i will never have this result ! dynamic range, color science , quality ... it is an evidence that there is a big difference. Even without Light, it looks good.
more bits doesnt mean more dynamic range. just saying. you could go super flat (log for example) and still get a good grading even with 8bit footage.
You can use some power windows to make it look better, even without lighting.
ARRI dynamic range is just unmatched. Also their color science.
RED is great and Resolution focus.
It does. Motion cadence is the key. ARRI rule.
Should do a similar video with the Arri and a canon kit lens really see if it’s all camera
I actually did that with Matthew Duclos and Stray Angel a few years back: ruclips.net/video/UtWHa273CZY/видео.html
Arri DR is indeed impressive, especially at @3:53
The sun is absolutely positively NOT the “worst lighting”. To test this you should have been outside at night or in a very dark room or something. We shoot TV shows and movies in the middle of the day sunlight all the time, just gotta use it right
Loud and clear. I won't press the subscribe button just as you said.
in my opinion, the Arri is great! It does offer an image that is cinematic, But in the right hands with good glass it can go further. I think since it was in your hands you obtain a cinematic image because you knew what you were doing. Understanding light, composition, and depth etc. Put it in the wrong hands they'll think its an overrated camera because they don't know what they are doing.
That arri is an epic light medium.
Ok that is impressive. The digital image here looks excellent.
Awesome! What easyrig is that? Thanks!
Easypeasyrig
Isn’t the revenant mostly natural light?
Yes. Chivo Lubezki is a beast of a DP though.
Lighting and art direction is a most important thing to build cinematic look...
0:25 - 0:35 actually looks good.
The lens is doing a lot of the work, properly adapted it’d even look great on an 900 series HDCAM Sony
Creo que la corrección de color es importante en el caso.
The moment you realize the behind-the-scenes footage of you talking looks more cinematic😂
Heve you recovered the highlights?
I really wanted to confess that I did, in fact, subscribe to your channel.
I felt compelled to share this with you and also that, despite your recommendation, I will NOT be unsubscribing.
I repeat, I will NOT be unsubscribing.
Hopefully, I have not ru8ned your day.
Cheers
yeah, it still looks great!
A whole video on one small comment, that's why I'm not subscribed to this channel. Seriously though I appreciate you going out at 110°, take the time with the team and do some science.
The footage looks so similar to blackmagic braw. Yep lighting and composition is def more important in the end imo.
Honestly... Yeah... ARRI cameras just make things look... fantastic
yes, it still looks good, yes it is good enough for low budget movie or music video. if you really know what you are doing you can get a good image with just a natural lights, it's all about the composition a clever shots. do you need alexa 35 for that? no, you could get alexa classic that would get you 95% there at a 5% price.
For some reason I was unsibscribed from this channel (I must have taken your advice), but now that this video poped up for me, I wanted to say that its so good to have you back, then I realized it was me, who was gone, not you :DDD Anyway, Im happy I found you again, and I subsrcibed again! :D
Simply fantastic, except for the last graded shot which is terrible ☺
It definitely works, but all I can think while watching the scenes is "wow this would look so much better with proper lighting"
I’m not sure it has as much latitude as film though. I shot a short film on s16 entirely outside with no lights or modifiers, and even in the digitized version, there was so much latitude. The workprint was just bonkers in terms of latitude.
The shots in bright daylight on you and the Arri look great too !
some movies are shot midday depending on the narrative, so this isnt the *worst* lighting, i expected an indoor cheap light with flickering and a greenish tint
The harsh overhead son look reminded me of walking dead. Would work well for that specific genre.
I’m just saying, that camera is doing A LOT of work that many cameras wouldn’t do, even in the hands of the same composer. Considering the original commenter was probably engaging in a bit of hyperbole, I would say his comment is not baseless. In the interest of fairness, this was also not a “zero lighting” video. From the moment he looked at the shadows and picked an angle based on it, there was some cinematography involved. Even more so when you go to an open window.
Is it good enough to shoot a short film on? I think the only scenario where this would be your choice is if for some crazy reason you have access to an Arri and nothing else. Because I think you can get better results with lighting control and a lesser camera. BUT that doesn’t have anything to do with the original comment.
Overall I thought this video was fun and I applaud you for giving this comment a much fairer test than many would’ve!
I'm sold, I purchased the Alexa 35! and hope to get into youtubing!
Nah, those Orions and the Cameraman really did the trick with this video. The only part of Arri was the dynamic range which can be controlled by the cameraman.
7:47 If I have a low budget for a movie, should I spend more on lighting or on the camera?
Good lighting is the king. Always.
0:38 I swear if you literally flip the script, then you're gluten for punishment. 😁
good lighting is definitely more important, i like the arri color, but even arri color cannot save the whole scene
Ha! Someone needed to make this.
I've watched worse footage from a low-budget movie.
No you didnt. You never watch movies
it still looks awesome...
Is it still a low budget movie after you pay for a 30 day Alexa 35 rental? 😊 But with that cost aside, you’re then dealing with the limitations of the lenses used and how much contrast they can hold onto while shooting into the sun. The sensor sits behind the glass and can only record what manages to get through.
I am in a movie that shoot on Arri it really looks good in day light
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looks cool
It’s crazy to see these comments say the image still looks good because it’s ARRI. Bro, I get the same exact image on my Sony a7siii . Has nothing to do with the camera. Has to do with lighting, composition & more. The reality is movies have huge budgets to hire crew to make a shot perfect. Your average run and gun videographer has none of this. We have to work with the resources we have and get creative.
Can you upload a HDR version please
Now if only we could all afford that same set up we'd be great! Lighting companies would go out of business.
I shoot a lot without light and a cinema camera unfortunately! ok it will never be as good as a controlled light setup but you can have footages way better with a bit of practice!
So I don’t know how to feel after your video 😢
It definitely looks good but this video definitely shows the importance of a reflector to me, you don't always need a big light you can get away with minimal equipment on a bright day like this imo anyway.
I think you misunderstood the original comment. It said “even without any lighting.” I may be mistaken since it wasn’t me who wrote it but it sounded like they were talking about low light settings. I don’t really consider the kitchen shots low light. Yes, you would normally light that shot but if you were going for a more natural, doc style look, it wouldn’t look bad. So I’m more interested in seeing how it performs in actual low light without any extra lighting. Like, take one of those shots at night that they show with the FX3 and show how it does.
I really meant without any gaffing.