I remember Bill literally saying "husky unit: cover the base. Bulldog unit: don't let anything through." But there never was any hint on why there should be two different units. They all just looked the same in their ships. Now as taking a closer look at the endscene with General Pepper suddenly everything makes sense 😂 Thank you for that!
Ah, it seems this I believe is a different take. Unfortunately TCRF didn't differentiate between a cut line and another take for this game. Sorry about that!
Those tutorial lines from Peppy where he tells you how to do various maneuvers were all replaced by other lines where he just advises you to perform certain actions and the controls are unspoken text in the box. As for the lines where the characters say they're going different directions, there are lines like them in Venom 1. Falco says 'I'll take the left', Peppy says 'I've got the right', and Slippy says 'I'm going left'.
I love how we are learning more and more about these games even now, really shows how much love and passion went into them. Thanks for another great video!
@@TheObsessiveGamer it also explains why the star wolf you fight in venom 2 have the bandaids and cyberware, theyd have been shot down on Katina and this would be their round 2
It would have been the proto version of this. ruclips.net/video/xgcap-5IBsY/видео.htmlsi=icmfdoz-Ft7m9PXQ Star Fox 64 スターフォックス 1997 Nintendo Episode 3 - Homebase Showdown over Katina
The line that is related to Wolf at 10:49 has been used in the 3DS version of the game, but like you said, it was cut from the game before it was released the first time around, most likely for the reason to not trigger people at the time.
I remember a friend in Jr. High school letting me borrow the promo tape for it. After watching it I saved up as much as I could to get the game when it came out. Always wished I could find that promo tape again... I know it's on youtube but I want to try collecting them all.
Great video! I loved playing this game when I was younger, and Falco is one of my favorite video game characters. Was there any information about characters who were cut when making the jump from Star Fox 2 (like Fay and Miyu) or new ones that were considered? Were guest characters like Katt who already appears on Zoness and Bill meant to appear in other levels? Again, great video!
If i remember from some old interviews, Miyu and Fay were retooled as they became Katt and Bill respectively... Makes sense since their counterparts were still a cat and a dog
such a shame. miyu and fay deserved to be in and canonized to the series... shiggy smh. u aint always right!! 😒😔 well at least he finally let starfox 2 be released on mini. wish it was done on snes tho.
When my husband and I were dating long distance we each drove 8 hours to meet in the middle of nowhere. We just enjoyed each other's company and played starfox 64 for three days straight 😂
This is a very special game to me. The first time i saw a game in 3D. the N64 was the Christmas Present for me and my brother and we got Lylat Wars as well. I found it so impressive and immersive and it gave me a feeling that i can still remember to this day and that i will never forget. Since then i love Space. And also, it was and still is a very good game. one of my favorite of the N64 and still the best Starfox game i played. So i think it was good after all they canceled the SNES title, or we maybe would have gotten a very different game on the N64, or even no Starfox at all.
I imagine we still may have gotten SF64 but later on, like maybe 1999? But I imagine they would try to innovate further or add a new story to it at that point
should just released starfox 2 on snes. it would just hype it up more for when the 64 version finally came. smh. i dont think fans would be put off by it cuz snes was on its last legs and the new 32 bit poly hype which was happening. lots of ppl had snes and loved starfox so it would sold well. gave nintendo more time for starfox on 64.... oh well tho. also the beta elements look way better then the final. especially the hud and boost. also wish they kept the snes arwing design. lol. skinny ones. at least starfox 2 finally got released tho on mini.
The N64 was all about big, new experiences, so on paper, a distinctly arcade-style game that was straight up replicating gameplay from the previous gen sounds like it would have been destined to fail. But the cinematic experience (along with the most brutal rumbling of any game to this day, I'll never forget blowing the train up for the special exit to Macbeth) really was novel in the mid 90s. And we all had our minds blown when we discovered that on-foot multiplayer was real, and not just a recess legend
This was a wonderful video. Very well researched and I even learned a few new things. I hoped for more giga leak content though. I would have loved to see some of the beta levels found for example
I'm from the UK. My first experience with Lylat Wars was a demo kiosk in Virgin Megastores. I was hooked instantly. Instead of shopping, I stood there for about 20 minutes just playing the game. I had played Starwing (seriously, why wasn't it called Starwing 64 in the UK) but this game was so much better. It was my birthday present that year.
7:51 Not sure if the final design was what was always intended, but that shade of green definitely makes the prototype version look like a Zaku from Gundam, so I wouldn't be surprised if they changed it for legal reasons.
Nice! / I love Star Fox 64! (I played some of the N64 version when I was a little kid, but I didn't really beat the game; I think on the 3DS remake, I got to Andross, but I didn't know how to fight him...)
@@TheObsessiveGamer - You're not wrong there, but I don't really feel like replaying the game right now... (It's like I was so close, but it's far away because of having to replay the entire game... (That and finding somewhere to play the game; Like, do I play the N64 version on an emulator or do I play the 3DS remake...)
@@TheObsessiveGamer - Are aware of Team Star Fox having their legs amputated? (Supposedly, in real life pilots would get blood clots in their legs, but in our reality; No pilots have that happened to them...) (That and Nintendo later changed their "legs" to look more like robotic boots instead...) (That one submarine level Aqueous; I remember you had to be constantly shooting because of how dark the level was...)
I've noticed that while N64 early Alphas/Betas like StarFox or Mario Kark R lack detail compared to final titles, they bo appear to run on Highter Screen Resolution than final -versions. It might be difficult to spot on old VCR tapes, but may be Nintendo had games running on Expansion Pack even before N64 was on sale, but games were likely less than 64mbit games on Alpha, hence the lack of detail. So they did go for more detail and speed rather than resolution at the end of the day.
So 64 is essentially a remake of the original, 64 3d on the 3ds is a remake/ port of 64, and zero is a remake/reimagined version of the original and 64 with extra elements from the then scrapped 2. They remade the game 3 times, essentially. Glad there aren't any horse characters in the star fox franchise, they'd be beaten dead
More a reimagining of the SNES gane as the level design is different, but yeah we essencially have seen the same story 3 times. I do wish they would just move forward with the story from either Star Fox Zero or the 64 timeline
Actually, Shigeru Miyamoto didn’t want to be shown up by a bunch of snotty British teenagers making a Star Fox sequel on what would be considered an inferior outdated system once the N64 console came out, so he actively went out of his way to sabotage Argonaut’s development of Star Fox 2, ultimately ending with it getting cancelled and hidden from the public for the longest time all because Shigzy was being a giant freaking manchild instead of the gaming saint Nintendrones naively believe him to be. He also did the same nonsense to Rare, just sayin’, and you all wonder why they went over to Microsoft so readily. Sheesh, damn Nintendrones. 😒
Uh, what? SF2 development wasn't "sabotaged" outside of being cancelled at the very end. And both SNES Star Fox games are borderline unplayable tech demos.
I mean considering it even involved X-Wings taking down a Walker... I can see a direct influence here lol Wonder if it was worries of a legal battle that made them switch it? lol
Man there is some cut weapon content that they could easily bring back in future games. Surprised they never explored more laser weapons after all these years. The closest thing is the double lock on in zero anf commands different ships
I remember when i first played Star Foc 64. It was an incredible game and I must have spent hours and hours playing it. It's just a shame that other Star Fox gsmes haven't had that success. Not Starfox Adventures, not Star Fox Assault, or Command, not even the reimagined Star Fox Zero which would have been great if we didn't use the gyro contrpls.
I think Cornelia is supposed to be covered in clouds, not ice. Like you’re fighting above the cloud line, but the planet is like Coruscant and covered in sky scrapers. But then they made it less similar to Star Wars.
I personally think this was snow simply cause you can actually shoot it and it leaves a burn mark. That and all hills are also covered in snow. If this were clouds, they could use the cloud effect from SM64 to make it look more like it
@@TheObsessiveGamer true. Back when I was in high school, I started a gaming club for those who liked video games & card games, we once held a tournament for Starfox Assault. There were 2 tournaments, arwing mode & land mode. Land mode was the most popular
@@TheObsessiveGamer Come to think of it, it also explains those ads that would come packaged with Super NES games, advertising Super NES games besides the one you had just opened. The advertisement for the original Star Fox was definitely noticeable because, 1, it was big enough to be a poster, and 2, it had puppets that are unmistakably supposed to be Fox, Peppy, Slippy, and Falco. Though the puppets in question are obviously different from the ones that were used in the Nintendo Direct presentation of Star Fox Zero. On that note, I know the puppets used for the Nintendo Direct presentation were made by the Jim Henson Company. Don't know who made the puppets for the Super NES game ads, if they weren't made by Nintendo themselves.
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I remember Bill literally saying "husky unit: cover the base. Bulldog unit: don't let anything through." But there never was any hint on why there should be two different units. They all just looked the same in their ships. Now as taking a closer look at the endscene with General Pepper suddenly everything makes sense 😂
Thank you for that!
“I got tagged, my ears are still ringing” is spoken by Peppy in the final game. He says it if you don’t shoot all the ships firing at him.
Ah, it seems this I believe is a different take. Unfortunately TCRF didn't differentiate between a cut line and another take for this game. Sorry about that!
Those tutorial lines from Peppy where he tells you how to do various maneuvers were all replaced by other lines where he just advises you to perform certain actions and the controls are unspoken text in the box. As for the lines where the characters say they're going different directions, there are lines like them in Venom 1. Falco says 'I'll take the left', Peppy says 'I've got the right', and Slippy says 'I'm going left'.
I love how we are learning more and more about these games even now, really shows how much love and passion went into them. Thanks for another great video!
Thanks! Yeah the gigaleak even gave us more on this.
@@TheObsessiveGamer Wow i did t know there was one lol.
Pretty good, I loved starfox growing, the screen shot of the early arwings, look like they just didn’t get the textures drawn at that point
I do see some model differences between them too, but yeah mainly the textures are the big difference
Katina is already so hectic, if Star Wolf showed up there it would be total chaos lol
Indeed lol Would have been a neat addition for Expert mode though I say. Overall, I imagine this may be why they did remove him.
@@TheObsessiveGamer it also explains why the star wolf you fight in venom 2 have the bandaids and cyberware, theyd have been shot down on Katina and this would be their round 2
@vwts They'd show up in the phase of the stage when the big sauce arrives and unleashes it's troops. With them leaving taunting you if you lose.
It would have been the proto version of this.
ruclips.net/video/xgcap-5IBsY/видео.htmlsi=icmfdoz-Ft7m9PXQ
Star Fox 64
スターフォックス
1997 Nintendo
Episode 3 - Homebase
Showdown over Katina
My favorite N64 game!!! Hell yeah!!!! ❤️
Long awaited one. Hope you enjoy it!
An amazing work as always!!! I didn't knew many of this facts
The line that is related to Wolf at 10:49 has been used in the 3DS version of the game, but like you said, it was cut from the game before it was released the first time around, most likely for the reason to not trigger people at the time.
I remember a friend in Jr. High school letting me borrow the promo tape for it. After watching it I saved up as much as I could to get the game when it came out. Always wished I could find that promo tape again... I know it's on youtube but I want to try collecting them all.
Hah so the promo video definitely did its job it seems. Yeah after seeing this one, I'd have liked to get them too
Great video! I loved playing this game when I was younger, and Falco is one of my favorite video game characters. Was there any information about characters who were cut when making the jump from Star Fox 2 (like Fay and Miyu) or new ones that were considered? Were guest characters like Katt who already appears on Zoness and Bill meant to appear in other levels? Again, great video!
If i remember from some old interviews, Miyu and Fay were retooled as they became Katt and Bill respectively... Makes sense since their counterparts were still a cat and a dog
Yeah what they said. But otherwise, as far as we know, they were only to appear in only those levels. Thanks!
such a shame. miyu and fay deserved to be in and canonized to the series...
shiggy smh. u aint always right!! 😒😔
well at least he finally let starfox 2 be released on mini. wish it was done on snes tho.
When my husband and I were dating long distance we each drove 8 hours to meet in the middle of nowhere. We just enjoyed each other's company and played starfox 64 for three days straight 😂
Now if that isn't the perfect date lol Could beat all 3 routes that way
This is a very special game to me. The first time i saw a game in 3D. the N64 was the Christmas Present for me and my brother and we got Lylat Wars as well. I found it so impressive and immersive and it gave me a feeling that i can still remember to this day and that i will never forget. Since then i love Space. And also, it was and still is a very good game. one of my favorite of the N64 and still the best Starfox game i played. So i think it was good after all they canceled the SNES title, or we maybe would have gotten a very different game on the N64, or even no Starfox at all.
I imagine we still may have gotten SF64 but later on, like maybe 1999? But I imagine they would try to innovate further or add a new story to it at that point
should just released starfox 2 on snes. it would just hype it up more for when the 64 version finally came. smh.
i dont think fans would be put off by it cuz snes was on its last legs and the new 32 bit poly hype which was happening.
lots of ppl had snes and loved starfox so it would sold well. gave nintendo more time for starfox on 64....
oh well tho. also the beta elements look way better then the final. especially the hud and boost. also wish they kept the
snes arwing design. lol. skinny ones. at least starfox 2 finally got released tho on mini.
The N64 was all about big, new experiences, so on paper, a distinctly arcade-style game that was straight up replicating gameplay from the previous gen sounds like it would have been destined to fail. But the cinematic experience (along with the most brutal rumbling of any game to this day, I'll never forget blowing the train up for the special exit to Macbeth) really was novel in the mid 90s. And we all had our minds blown when we discovered that on-foot multiplayer was real, and not just a recess legend
12:34 the dual laser that are red are from Venom 2 from the Wolfen IIs
From what I heard, Zoness was always intended to be polluted and the clean water was just a placeholder.
Interesting. Should look further into it.
This was a wonderful video. Very well researched and I even learned a few new things. I hoped for more giga leak content though. I would have loved to see some of the beta levels found for example
Loving playing this again and im kinda shocked how good it looks I mean this was really an N64 tech showcase
I liked hearing the voice clips. And the vehicle info was interesting
Yeah, usually I don't care as much about cut audio, but here it is much more facinating.
I'm from the UK. My first experience with Lylat Wars was a demo kiosk in Virgin Megastores. I was hooked instantly. Instead of shopping, I stood there for about 20 minutes just playing the game. I had played Starwing (seriously, why wasn't it called Starwing 64 in the UK) but this game was so much better. It was my birthday present that year.
One of the games I tried has some interesting history at least. Yep, one of my favourite games I have.
You may be surprised how many of the games you've played have neat histories overall
7:51 Not sure if the final design was what was always intended, but that shade of green definitely makes the prototype version look like a Zaku from Gundam, so I wouldn't be surprised if they changed it for legal reasons.
I had that VHS in like 5th grade. It's rad.
Nice! / I love Star Fox 64!
(I played some of the N64 version when I was a little kid, but I didn't really beat the game; I think on the 3DS remake, I got to Andross, but I didn't know how to fight him...)
You seem to have been every close then to beating then game if you got to Andross. Can always give it another shot now that you are older :D
@@TheObsessiveGamer - You're not wrong there, but I don't really feel like replaying the game right now...
(It's like I was so close, but it's far away because of having to replay the entire game...
(That and finding somewhere to play the game; Like, do I play the N64 version on an emulator or do I play the 3DS remake...)
@@Tazerboy_10 Can't go wrong with any version of the game I say. 3DS would make it easier I think nowadays due to level select
@@TheObsessiveGamer - Are aware of Team Star Fox having their legs amputated?
(Supposedly, in real life pilots would get blood clots in their legs, but in our reality; No pilots have that happened to them...)
(That and Nintendo later changed their "legs" to look more like robotic boots instead...)
(That one submarine level Aqueous; I remember you had to be constantly shooting because of how dark the level was...)
@@Tazerboy_10 Yeah I know about that amputation thing, which was more a thing for the SNES one then 643.
I've noticed that while N64 early Alphas/Betas like StarFox or Mario Kark R lack detail compared to final titles, they bo appear to run on Highter Screen Resolution than final -versions. It might be difficult to spot on old VCR tapes, but may be Nintendo had games running on Expansion Pack even before N64 was on sale, but games were likely less than 64mbit games on Alpha, hence the lack of detail. So they did go for more detail and speed rather than resolution at the end of the day.
Fortuna is actually a mistranslation, It's called Fichina in the Japanese version and it was later corrected in Star Fox Assault
Just a review for me. I already know a lot about the game.
I do hope you still learn something here :)
I remember this game as Lylat Wars
Hello my European watcher :P
@@TheObsessiveGamer Hiya.
When star wolf shows up a second time, they have upgraded ships and they do have dual red lasers
great video! so many new things i didn’t know
Thanks! Glad I could deliver even more info on it
So 64 is essentially a remake of the original, 64 3d on the 3ds is a remake/ port of 64, and zero is a remake/reimagined version of the original and 64 with extra elements from the then scrapped 2.
They remade the game 3 times, essentially. Glad there aren't any horse characters in the star fox franchise, they'd be beaten dead
More a reimagining of the SNES gane as the level design is different, but yeah we essencially have seen the same story 3 times. I do wish they would just move forward with the story from either Star Fox Zero or the 64 timeline
@@TheObsessiveGamer64 timeline for me
Actually, Shigeru Miyamoto didn’t want to be shown up by a bunch of snotty British teenagers making a Star Fox sequel on what would be considered an inferior outdated system once the N64 console came out, so he actively went out of his way to sabotage Argonaut’s development of Star Fox 2, ultimately ending with it getting cancelled and hidden from the public for the longest time all because Shigzy was being a giant freaking manchild instead of the gaming saint Nintendrones naively believe him to be. He also did the same nonsense to Rare, just sayin’, and you all wonder why they went over to Microsoft so readily. Sheesh, damn Nintendrones. 😒
Literally Miyamoto killed Star Fox.
Uh, what? SF2 development wasn't "sabotaged" outside of being cancelled at the very end. And both SNES Star Fox games are borderline unplayable tech demos.
My favorite game as a kid. Great video
Thanks! Love triggering that nostalgia especially (even for me lol)
Omg n64 models I'm so excited
N64 nostalgic models always hit different lol
Hopefully you cover the three Starfox 2 builds
That's the plan once I hit Star Fox 2.
I do say the winter theme Corneria looks an awful lot like Hoth From Star Wars Empire Strikes Back
I mean considering it even involved X-Wings taking down a Walker... I can see a direct influence here lol
Wonder if it was worries of a legal battle that made them switch it? lol
@@TheObsessiveGamer well I think it looks a lot nicer either way.
Lylat Wars was the first videogame i ever played and love it to this day. It is a big part of my life.
I followed this game back in the day. Bought every magazine and I remember seeing this build of the game.
Hmm... The beta version of the Arwing looks very much like the low-poly model used for multiplayer
Oh interesting, I should see how they compare.
Man there is some cut weapon content that they could easily bring back in future games. Surprised they never explored more laser weapons after all these years. The closest thing is the double lock on in zero anf commands different ships
Definitely in my top 5 of all time N64 games.. can still finish every route and get every medal with ease.
Now I finally know why it's called LylatWars xD Always wondered, but never bothered to look it up.
Thank you for this ❤️❤️❤️
2:08 the Spacies have arrived
Great vid as always!
Thanks!
Another great video thanks 😊
Thank you!
My favorite game for so long. Before I played portal 2 star fox 64 was my favorite
I remember when i first played Star Foc 64. It was an incredible game and I must have spent hours and hours playing it. It's just a shame that other Star Fox gsmes haven't had that success. Not Starfox Adventures, not Star Fox Assault, or Command, not even the reimagined Star Fox Zero which would have been great if we didn't use the gyro contrpls.
Yeah honestly. They just need to make normal Star Fox game it can easily flush life back into the series
I think Cornelia is supposed to be covered in clouds, not ice. Like you’re fighting above the cloud line, but the planet is like Coruscant and covered in sky scrapers. But then they made it less similar to Star Wars.
I personally think this was snow simply cause you can actually shoot it and it leaves a burn mark. That and all hills are also covered in snow. If this were clouds, they could use the cloud effect from SM64 to make it look more like it
Did you know the PAL version of StarFox 64 has an exclusive Lylat dialouge mode?
"I WILL NOT BE DEFEATED BY THIS TRASH!"
Lol
I wish we'd get a sequel to Command, as Adventure 2.
I really wish they could give more Star Fox love for the Switch!
We need a port of Zero with good controls and a proper sequel
@@TheObsessiveGamer That I can agree on!
My first Starfox game was Starfox Assault, to this day it's my fave ❤️
A solid game and unrated I feel.
@@TheObsessiveGamer true. Back when I was in high school, I started a gaming club for those who liked video games & card games, we once held a tournament for Starfox Assault. There were 2 tournaments, arwing mode & land mode. Land mode was the most popular
@@VictorHernandez-nj2loman that sounds like fun
How I wish they also could've said no to the Arwing walker in Star Fox Zero.
Honestly they should have instead done a remake of Star Fox 2 there if they were so hellbent on the Walkers.
I honestly didn't know that Shigeru Miyamoto was a fan of Gerry Anderson.
Some of the things we learn about. Miyamoto is fascinating sometimes.
@@TheObsessiveGamer Come to think of it, it also explains those ads that would come packaged with Super NES games, advertising Super NES games besides the one you had just opened. The advertisement for the original Star Fox was definitely noticeable because, 1, it was big enough to be a poster, and 2, it had puppets that are unmistakably supposed to be Fox, Peppy, Slippy, and Falco. Though the puppets in question are obviously different from the ones that were used in the Nintendo Direct presentation of Star Fox Zero. On that note, I know the puppets used for the Nintendo Direct presentation were made by the Jim Henson Company. Don't know who made the puppets for the Super NES game ads, if they weren't made by Nintendo themselves.
10:05 that's the major reason zero sucked his stupid idea transforming the arwing in too a walking chicken
Would these cut voice dialogues have caused the RUclips poop/slippy gets redacted videos more traction?
what?
You goofed with the ice planet, it is actually Fichina, Fortuna is a tropical planet.
I wouldn't say I goofed, more that the english translation did as it called it Fortuna. I know later games later called it by the correct name lol
Sonic Adventure 1 & 2 cut content. Also, fighting games cut content
Pretty sure i heard some of the cut lines on the eu version.
Your Star Fox 64 footage is very dark.
Thunderbirds ❤️
Thunderbirds are go!
Stay ready!
Hope you enjoyed it!
@@TheObsessiveGamer always!
Esta curioso que fox tenga una pistola
Porque en el juego no lo usa o directamente no aparece xd
this game was a revelation to me as a kid and i still love it to this day, great video!