Exactly! That’s the beauty of it. He was giving the bad guys a taste of their own medicine! How do you not love that???! He’s the greatest of all time, no question. Check out Hogan in the early 80s… unreal. Moving like a cat. Check out him vs Hansen in a cage from 80-81
The genius of Nash is, that for his whole career he kept saying 'i don't like wrestling, I only got into it for the money and apart from that I couldn't care about the inner workings of it " And then he starts a podcast discussing wrestling as an "expert"
People didn't like the bait and switch aspect of it at all. They went back to the Georgia Dome once more, and paid attendance was under 20,000 by then.
it was another instance of hogan sneaking back to the top, whenever wcw had a top guy topple hogan he was immediately put back in the back door after that guy lost the title, for example macho man won 2 titles specifically because hogan wanted the belt a day later
@@FearsEdge Bingo...it took everything from a brand new suspenseful 3 way battle between wcw, nwo and wolfpac to dumbing everything back down to yet another 2 sided good guys vs bad guys bs from 3 years prior. Imo that was the most rotten aspect of the finger poke of doom.
@@GV213 why would it work in Texas? Like the wrestling fans from the state that produced Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Undertaker, Booker T, The Funks, The Von Erichs, Shawn Michaels, Gino Hernandez, Blackjack Mullilgan and his sons, Dusty Rhodes, etc wouldnt see a bs angle when they seen it? lol
Bobby Heenan disagreed. He wasn't fond of his time there, but he bemoaned the fact that lots of people behind the scenes lost jobs because of a few guys jerking off.
The ratings were not bad ffs, WCW’s numbers in its final year is better than Raw’s now. I agree they had a spending problem but that could have been mitigated and alot of the losses were rolled over from other Turner divisions, classic Hollywood accounting.
@@mikeg2491 It cost way less money to run reruns episodes of Law and Order that brings in advertising money vs the millions of dollars wasted on a wrestling show budget plus the loss of advertisers it cost. Just because your a wrestling fan doesn’t mean everyone likes wrestling. WCW was costing more money than they were making
WCW died when they had a hardcore match backstage between Bam Bam Bigelow and Brian Nobbs. They're backstage, not in the ring, in a hardcore match, and Bam Bam leaves to help Kimberly Paige and it results in a countout. A countout in a hardcore match taking place backstage in the loading docks. This was a sign they didn't care about the matches, the wrestlers or the fans.
The way I'd always heard about purchasing WCW was that Vince McMahon had the right to match anyone else's offer to purchase WCW. For those of you familiar with the NFL, it's kind of like a player being a restricted free agent. They were free to peruse any sales arrangement they wanted, but before any offer was finalized Vince had the right to meet that exact offer to purchase WCW. Now given how little Vince paid for WCW,and the stories that claimed Vince was reluctant to even pay that, it's highly doubtful that Vince would have ever matched a legitimate offer to purchase WCW like Bischoff and his investors had put together.
My wrestling coach. The original awesome Kong from told me. My job was to be as physical as possible without leaving a mark because you got to do it again tomorrow, the next day and so forth.
People forget that Shawn and HHH did a similar thing to give Hunter the European title. That’s where Nash and Hogan got that from. Nobody ever gave DX a hard time for that they way they have wcw
For sure, I remember watching it live and thinking "DX already did this" - but the DX version was infinitely more entertaining. I think Hogan/Nash know they could have sold it better in the ring before actually doing the fingerpoke. Just choosing to do a fingerpoke was probably the major issue with it. They could have done that type of heel title flip in almost any other way and it would have been better. Just DX cross-running the ropes, doing the serious stretching, everything was sarcastic. By the time the change happened, the audience was already fully pissed or fully laughing.
That was for the European Title. The finger poke of doom was with the biggest stars in WCW for their world title after one of their biggest ppvs ever. Much different. Duh.😂
@@kevinlee9929 nah, Hulkster in all his matches has put over the stinger. But bret can't and wouldn't put anybody over that wasn't apart of his palhood.
@@Arayig1982 Right ... Cause Jerry Lawler, Shawn Michaels, and The Mountie were apart of Bret's "Palhood". I swear Bret Hart Haters and their lies are comical 😂
Hulk did a back suplex back in the 80s. He also had although not the best move was the atomic drop. Hulk eased up A LOT back in the 90s, but early in his 80s WWF run he was doing more moves than he did from 90 on.
It was a slow death after it's peak in 1998 when Goldberg beat Hogan in Atlanta, that was the last great moment for WCW IMO (Maybe the Four Horseman reunion, can't remember if that was before or after).
it was more popular in January and February of 1999 then at any point ever. So you dont know the actual history. You are still repeating the bogus WWF competition narrative. Even though wwf had higher ratings, that doesnt negate the fact that WCW more popular than ever too. They started sinking with the terrible booking in 1999 and never recovered
@@IAEMThatIAEM Nitro did a 6.0 rating in the summer of 1998. The months you mention range from a 3.9 to a 5.7. I admit, I'm surprised they are that high but still not higher than you claim. Anyhow, do your research and don't be a Meltzer. PS I said nothing about ratings, I was talking about "last great moments" for the company. The newer Star Wars films may rake in more money than the old ones, but no one with half a brain will tell you the new ones are better films.
I remember he defended the Fingerpoke of Doom for a long time, till he finally said it was a terrible idea. And I don't think Hogan has ever really commented about it
The finger poke of doom was one of the most stupid and pointless angles ever done in wrestling….yet Nash still won’t admit that and to this day,will defend it.
@russmartin5392 according to Nash he just tried to make it look like "it made sense" as if he was against it. I know he's said before why would I win the world title only to give it away a week later.
Eric was gonna buy wcw but there was no point after the tv deal was removed So vince got it much cheaper But the fact is that had the tv deal still been there Eric wouldve bought wcw And i believe it would still be going today
You know, the world is moving too fast when a documentary comes out, like, 3 weeks ago and Sean is already sick of hearing about it. Shit, a movie used to come out and the country would be in its grip for two years.
I loved the late 90's, best era of Wrestling (other then mid 80's). WCW was on everyone's TV no matter who's friends house i walk in. I was 19-20, NWO took over the airwaves ! Also yes "Trump" for president💥✊💥
For 3 yrs WCW was on top & I loved it... even when the ratings started to go down I was still watching...I miss it. ❤️❤️The Outsiders & NWO took over👍👍
Nash turning bad isnt why people got mad. It was that every time wcw would set up a cool storyline, theyd change before the story got any steam. Nwo red vs white being another prime example.
WCW died exactly at 3:45 PM EST on a Tuesday after Chipotle screwed up Vinnie Russo's late lunch. I've got the receipts!!! BROOOOOOH My God this is still an issue??? 🤣
Better way to do it would be to work without hard moves, over-sell and let the announcers plant seeds of doubt. Let Hogan pin him with a cheating move, let Nash leave ring indifferent. Come out later and THEN reveal the conspiracy. Woulda built serious heat.
6:45 I can confirm! MASSIVE POP. I was there in DC at Starrcade. Hall taser got everyone giddy. MCI erupted! plus Goldberg was popular in DC. It was time
March 2001? Leaving aside the AOL/TW merger, WCW had been horribly mismanaged for years. I'd say late 1998 was actually the beginning of the end. They were in an unprecedented position of power and didn't strengthen. Instead they lost focus and became complacent. They let established and young midcard talent go(Giant, Jericho, X Pac, Radicalz, Raven, Bret, Hall etc)and never replaced them. They let the CW division go to pot. And they failed to invest in young talent and elevate them to main event level. Fast forward just 2 years later and their roster is a mess. The opening and midcard is dead, they have no wrestling backbone anymore. And the main event scene is a joke, full of broken down has-beens who had nothing left in the tank. By March 01 things had come to a natural end. The merger was the final nail, but the company was in free fall for years.
it wasn't the end of wcw but a lot of casuals were turned off. watching it live was comparable to being at a cool party and then you hear sirens. people may attend the party again the next week but they'll be on their toes.
Nash was white hot AT That time. I have 0 problem with goldberg losing. I do take issue with what they turned around & did after, making a joke of it. When Taker, (Brock didn't "need" the streak) graciously ended his' streak, Brock Crushed Cena. The birth of "suplex city", cuz if Cena kicksout at 3 1/3, Taker's streak means less. So Brock said he was on the phone w/Austin & he said U can't Just go over🤏🏼, it'd be disrespectful. "What if..."
Bill Goldberg was a two pump chump, I don't mean gross, but he was like Warrior was only good for a minute or so in a wrestling match. The fact is he ended Bret's career. Do I think Bret needs to learn to let it go? Yes, I do. But I think Goldberg began to think of himself as he was the best thing since sliced bread. They really should've sicked Haku on him.
To me WCW shutting down was the worst thing to happen in the history of wrestling. Without competition WWE got lazy and boring. Given time WCW could have gotten better if they stayed in business. WWE had down times too. Imagine if when Stone Cold left WWE and he went to WCW just to piss off Vince. It could have happened.
Maybe, but the fact of the matter is that after the merger, the AOL execs did not want the product and were content to let it die by taking it off the air and selling it for a pittance to McMahon. Even if WCW was still getting big ratings, it still would have been eliminated because the wrestling audience was just not as valuable to advertisers no matter how many people were watching.
It's crazy how dumb or clueless people actually are, a billion dollar business sold one of its assets and the new owner absorbed it... plain and simple. Saying bischoff, hogan and russo destroyed wcw is like saying the 1st mate, chef and butler sank the titanic. Brain damage is cumulative, if Bret has brain damage than it's from 20+ years of wrestling... not 1 kick.
100% it had nothing to do with any one in ring moment. Not even DA as champ. Even though people who were 6 years old when it happened like to make people think thats the reason.
I probably watched more bad WCW than good WCW. It was a nice break from the WWE. For as good as WWE was they had a lot of bad segments too but made up for it with the main event talent but that midcard was weak.
Me personally with Goldberg and bret hart would be two talents shouldn’t be in a ring together Goldberg shouldn’t of been in the ring at this point since he was still green at this point I wouldn’t say it was goldbergs fully responsible but in ways obviously he’s the one unfortunately ended harts career but it be one’s who rushed Goldberg training to get into the ring learn on the job type deal
Kevin flipping Nash and Jheri-Curl Scott Hall were the main reason I never gave a. Didn't care about WCW. Some of the worst humans in the world thrived in WCW.. WCW--EEEWWW!!
The issue that's not that u were the most over guy, it's how you did it, that's when I say u use something in planning, that's like saying my money is sure so whatever, u think a burger King worker who save up his minimum wage to see you wrestle and you do that. How does he feels? Again his money from burger King wasn't sure, so he was cheated, it's like the nba when stars get guaranteed money and they choose to sit out games and people pay hard earn money to see him, yes nash that u still haven't gotten, that about you hurts me, because to me you are one of the greatest minds ever in wrestling
I know I’m just a “mark” but WCW is like anything else. The day someone stops putting money into it, it will fail. WWF/WWE I guess was making money hand over fist because of Austin and Rock but as soon as Austin turned heel and WCW was purchased their shit went down because the competition was what drove the business. So for instance, AEW sucks ass, but as long as they keep blowing cash to keep it on TV, it will stay around even though it sucks. So even if WCW was bought by Eric, it would only stay around as long as the money kept getting thrown in, or if it actually got better which I doubt WCW would have gotten better because it was already fucked at that point I feel. So bottom line is, as long as someone keeps putting money into any business it will never go away, but that doesn’t mean it’s making money. My wife works for the wrigleys and they keep pouring money into shit that doesn’t make any, but they just want to keep them around.
Just taking a man money and no returns and loosing for years, you Kev thinks that will happen forever, hogan helped killed wcw with creative control, Easy E killed wcw cause he gave away all that money, poke of doom all who is involved, nash as a genius he is never pushed to push Bret to world champ immediately and I think that's the undertaker, bret incident, that's what killed WCW
For the biggest face in wrestling for decades, Hogan wrestled like a total heel. Eye pokes, rake the back, choke with the tape, even biting.
I used to love hear Jesse Ventura on commentary complaining about it 😂
Exactly! That’s the beauty of it. He was giving the bad guys a taste of their own medicine! How do you not love that???! He’s the greatest of all time, no question. Check out Hogan in the early 80s… unreal. Moving like a cat. Check out him vs Hansen in a cage from 80-81
So did Steve Austin hence nothing that Austin did was really all that original.
"I never had a problem saying, "I never had a problem". "
He never had a problem with X-Pac being there.
The genius of Nash is, that for his whole career he kept saying 'i don't like wrestling, I only got into it for the money and apart from that I couldn't care about the inner workings of it "
And then he starts a podcast discussing wrestling as an "expert"
Yes, for the money. Full circle, it's more than genius, it's the ultimate plan.
He's been working us for 30 years
Yeah but he talks more about other shit besides the in ring stuff. Thats, like, 5% of his show
Carnies gonna carny.
Wrestling is a business, not an art. It can be artistic, but $$$ is the bottom line otherwise you are a mark. Big Kev learned that early.
“I never had a problem with the finger poke of doom”
WCW died when Bischoff stopped dying his hair.
Too many people will look past this but that shits true.
@@CaptainHowdy-fn9dy He had it shaved in a storyline! You're a liar! A big wwewcwaewecwtnaawapoppypants liar!
Why because it showed he was getting older and didn't care?
Lmao facts
he gave up on his hair just like he gave up on wcw, the black represented the vigor and energy.
Nash still can't admit the finger poke was a stupid idea. It wasn't good heat. It was "this is bullshit, fuck this," heat.
People didn't like the bait and switch aspect of it at all. They went back to the Georgia Dome once more, and paid attendance was under 20,000 by then.
It would have worked for a random match in the summer in Arizona or texas..not in the main event against Goldberg in his hometown
it was another instance of hogan sneaking back to the top, whenever wcw had a top guy topple hogan he was immediately put back in the back door after that guy lost the title, for example macho man won 2 titles specifically because hogan wanted the belt a day later
@@FearsEdge Bingo...it took everything from a brand new suspenseful 3 way battle between wcw, nwo and wolfpac to dumbing everything back down to yet another 2 sided good guys vs bad guys bs from 3 years prior. Imo that was the most rotten aspect of the finger poke of doom.
@@GV213 why would it work in Texas? Like the wrestling fans from the state that produced Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Undertaker, Booker T, The Funks, The Von Erichs, Shawn Michaels, Gino Hernandez, Blackjack Mullilgan and his sons, Dusty Rhodes, etc wouldnt see a bs angle when they seen it? lol
‘I never had a problem with WCW dying’
You think he would want WCW to stay in business. I'd imagine he'd make the most money there.
Sasso voice lol
Bobby Heenan disagreed. He wasn't fond of his time there, but he bemoaned the fact that lots of people behind the scenes lost jobs because of a few guys jerking off.
Lmao
Guess who won't have a problem with your Kevin Sullivan Moment.
.. ain't going to be Brian's Song, brother.
Nice he acknowledges Bret’s ability and career
nash and bret mostly got along.
Nash never had a problem with Bret
Cry baby Bret
Bret is an egotistical 🐓
If Bret wouldnt of got injured he would too of gone to WWE after WCW ended. Biggest ego in the world
One last time, Turner TV executives didn’t want WCW on their networks because it was too expensive to produce and the ratings were bad. Thee end!
bluntamainia runnin wild
@@turkN9NE you know it brotha!!
The ratings were not bad ffs, WCW’s numbers in its final year is better than Raw’s now. I agree they had a spending problem but that could have been mitigated and alot of the losses were rolled over from other Turner divisions, classic Hollywood accounting.
AOL and time Warner didn't want wrestling on the network anymore, I thought was the main problem
@@mikeg2491 It cost way less money to run reruns episodes of Law and Order that brings in advertising money vs the millions of dollars wasted on a wrestling show budget plus the loss of advertisers it cost. Just because your a wrestling fan doesn’t mean everyone likes wrestling. WCW was costing more money than they were making
kevin nash never had a problem with not getting paid
Probably wouldn't have a problem with getting paid even more and for longer, if he hadn't had a hand in killing the promotion. Lol
Nash,is a genius, I could listen him all day.I need to be taking notes
WCW died when they had a hardcore match backstage between Bam Bam Bigelow and Brian Nobbs. They're backstage, not in the ring, in a hardcore match, and Bam Bam leaves to help Kimberly Paige and it results in a countout. A countout in a hardcore match taking place backstage in the loading docks.
This was a sign they didn't care about the matches, the wrestlers or the fans.
I remember that. It was ridiculous.
Love hearing all these stories. Thanks for sharing them fellas.
Just crazy to think... WCW at one point was making 100 million + a year! Then, just lost it all. Crazy times.
Can we get Kev a real microphone he looks and sounds like a fuckin airplane pilot
We can understand him. He has enough people watching and staying . It’s fine.
@@ImOnRandom I’m breaking his balls , Captain Kev won’t stop me from watching
@@ImOnRandomI’m breaking his balls I’ll still listen to Captain Kev and Stewardess Shaun
The way I'd always heard about purchasing WCW was that Vince McMahon had the right to match anyone else's offer to purchase WCW.
For those of you familiar with the NFL, it's kind of like a player being a restricted free agent. They were free to peruse any sales arrangement they wanted, but before any offer was finalized Vince had the right to meet that exact offer to purchase WCW. Now given how little Vince paid for WCW,and the stories that claimed Vince was reluctant to even pay that, it's highly doubtful that Vince would have ever matched a legitimate offer to purchase WCW like Bischoff and his investors had put together.
No accountability Kev he acts like he had no part in WCW going to shit when he was one of the main characters.
"we already got their money" yeah, today, did WCW have their money for tomorrow? no
I guess you're gonna take a huge pay cut at your job and make less so the company can make more? Lol
I need to see that "I never had a problem" merch lol
My wrestling coach. The original awesome Kong from told me. My job was to be as physical as possible without leaving a mark because you got to do it again tomorrow, the next day and so forth.
People forget that Shawn and HHH did a similar thing to give Hunter the European title. That’s where Nash and Hogan got that from.
Nobody ever gave DX a hard time for that they way they have wcw
For sure, I remember watching it live and thinking "DX already did this" - but the DX version was infinitely more entertaining. I think Hogan/Nash know they could have sold it better in the ring before actually doing the fingerpoke. Just choosing to do a fingerpoke was probably the major issue with it. They could have done that type of heel title flip in almost any other way and it would have been better. Just DX cross-running the ropes, doing the serious stretching, everything was sarcastic. By the time the change happened, the audience was already fully pissed or fully laughing.
That was for the European Title. The finger poke of doom was with the biggest stars in WCW for their world title after one of their biggest ppvs ever. Much different. Duh.😂
Shawn was already World Champ. It made sense that he wouldn't care about handing HHH a secondary title.
@@thesecurityguardchannel it gets greatly overshadowed by the Montreal Screwjob though.
Wcw failed to capitalize on Bret Hart. He was on fire and they let it burn out. Shame
Yep, Thats why Hogan kept him in his Nwo as long as possible, to keep him down under him. Worst use of Bret Hart ever.
@@vincentprice9156 💯
@@vincentprice9156 💯 exactly my man
I am just happy to have you guys talk about stuff. Don’t have to wonder what happened to everyone
Vince always owned WCW
Slow death when bret came in and Syxx went out.
That’s real
Exactly and that should be said more! By the time Stone Cold n The Rock feuded was around the time Syxx was back in WWF.
You mean when Hogan refused to put Sting over clean
@@kevinlee9929 nah, Hulkster in all his matches has put over the stinger. But bret can't and wouldn't put anybody over that wasn't apart of his palhood.
@@Arayig1982 Right ... Cause Jerry Lawler, Shawn Michaels, and The Mountie were apart of Bret's "Palhood". I swear Bret Hart Haters and their lies are comical 😂
Hulk did a back suplex back in the 80s. He also had although not the best move was the atomic drop. Hulk eased up A LOT back in the 90s, but early in his 80s WWF run he was doing more moves than he did from 90 on.
Working means working the crowd, not how many fancy moves you do. Hogan got the most intended reactions which means he's the greatest worker.
In all fairness to Hogan (whom i think was overrated), watch some of the footage of him wrestling in Japan. It's like a totally different wrestler.
too many Generals and not enough Soldiers mentality will ruin anything
It was a slow death after it's peak in 1998 when Goldberg beat Hogan in Atlanta, that was the last great moment for WCW IMO (Maybe the Four Horseman reunion, can't remember if that was before or after).
it was more popular in January and February of 1999 then at any point ever. So you dont know the actual history. You are still repeating the bogus WWF competition narrative.
Even though wwf had higher ratings, that doesnt negate the fact that WCW more popular than ever too. They started sinking with the terrible booking in 1999 and never recovered
@@IAEMThatIAEM Nitro did a 6.0 rating in the summer of 1998. The months you mention range from a 3.9 to a 5.7. I admit, I'm surprised they are that high but still not higher than you claim. Anyhow, do your research and don't be a Meltzer. PS I said nothing about ratings, I was talking about "last great moments" for the company. The newer Star Wars films may rake in more money than the old ones, but no one with half a brain will tell you the new ones are better films.
The thing with the WWE narrative, you get everyone backstabbing and blaming each other while Jamie Kellner counts his money in the back.
The same time my heart did . .. I loved Nitro and Saturday night.
I never had a problem saying I was the most over when I really wasn’t.
By Nash's account, the Fingerpoke of Doom was a way for Nash and Hulk to put themselves over and to hell with all the fans.
I remember he defended the Fingerpoke of Doom for a long time, till he finally said it was a terrible idea. And I don't think Hogan has ever really commented about it
@@hcaballero57 then defends it again right here.
The finger poke of doom was one of the most stupid and pointless angles ever done in wrestling….yet Nash still won’t admit that and to this day,will defend it.
@russmartin5392 according to Nash he just tried to make it look like "it made sense" as if he was against it. I know he's said before why would I win the world title only to give it away a week later.
Eric was gonna buy wcw but there was no point after the tv deal was removed
So vince got it much cheaper
But the fact is that had the tv deal still been there
Eric wouldve bought wcw
And i believe it would still be going today
The Finger poke was trash because it made everything go backwards and predictable storyline wise. Thats what Nash seems to never understand...
If Nash was a pro athlete, he would have quit trying as soon as he got a big contract. That is theft.
The brother just doesn't get it, brother!
You know, the world is moving too fast when a documentary comes out, like, 3 weeks ago and Sean is already sick of hearing about it. Shit, a movie used to come out and the country would be in its grip for two years.
awesome podcast
Nash is actually underrated in the ring, especially in his prime. D1 athlete, I be 90% of wrestlers throw a football like a 5 year old girl.
I loved the late 90's, best era of Wrestling (other then mid 80's). WCW was on everyone's TV no matter who's friends house i walk in. I was 19-20, NWO took over the airwaves ! Also yes "Trump" for president💥✊💥
Kev "All I Care About Is Money" Nash.
Or how about Kev "Only Poor Jobbers Criticize Me" Nash
For 3 yrs WCW was on top & I loved it... even when the ratings started to go down I was still watching...I miss it. ❤️❤️The Outsiders & NWO took over👍👍
Nash was over in WCW that’s a facts!
1998 when Luger and Sting joined Nash's nWo Wolfpack that made Nash the most popular wrestler in WCW.
Nash turning bad isnt why people got mad. It was that every time wcw would set up a cool storyline, theyd change before the story got any steam. Nwo red vs white being another prime example.
WCW died exactly at 3:45 PM EST on a Tuesday after Chipotle screwed up Vinnie Russo's late lunch. I've got the receipts!!! BROOOOOOH My God this is still an issue??? 🤣
Even if Nash was a mediocre worker, he was a 7 foot monster who could talk. He was like Freddy Krueger who could talk. He was a commodity.
When WCW had people at the top of time warner that wanted it fail, it was inevitable that it was on borrowed time.
How often could someone kick Nash in the head..dude was 7ft.
Better way to do it would be to work without hard moves, over-sell and let the announcers plant seeds of doubt.
Let Hogan pin him with a cheating move, let Nash leave ring indifferent. Come out later and THEN reveal the conspiracy.
Woulda built serious heat.
The look Kev gives at 5:30 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
What's the name of the Documentary?
6:45 I can confirm! MASSIVE POP. I was there in DC at Starrcade. Hall taser got everyone giddy. MCI erupted! plus Goldberg was popular in DC. It was time
WCW was decent
Nash. Respect … Brett
Hulk had charisma and the people love him and always will
Whoever is editing these videos needs to find another line of work.
You have to watch nash videos on 1.5 speed to watch at normal speed
i wish i had kevin nash’s problems
I never had a problem with Kevin being incredibly sensitive.
March 2001?
Leaving aside the AOL/TW merger, WCW had been horribly mismanaged for years. I'd say late 1998 was actually the beginning of the end. They were in an unprecedented position of power and didn't strengthen. Instead they lost focus and became complacent. They let established and young midcard talent go(Giant, Jericho, X Pac, Radicalz, Raven, Bret, Hall etc)and never replaced them. They let the CW division go to pot. And they failed to invest in young talent and elevate them to main event level.
Fast forward just 2 years later and their roster is a mess. The opening and midcard is dead, they have no wrestling backbone anymore. And the main event scene is a joke, full of broken down has-beens who had nothing left in the tank. By March 01 things had come to a natural end. The merger was the final nail, but the company was in free fall for years.
The ridiculous contracts, these "Wrestlers" had, destroyed WCW!
When Kevin showed up. 😂
No fit yet over Hogan at the RNC?
it wasn't the end of wcw but a lot of casuals were turned off. watching it live was comparable to being at a cool party and then you hear sirens. people may attend the party again the next week but they'll be on their toes.
When he booked himself to beat Goldberg.
WCW where the big boys play
AEW where the little boys make friends
Nash was white hot AT That time. I have 0 problem with goldberg losing. I do take issue with what they turned around & did after, making a joke of it. When Taker, (Brock didn't "need" the streak) graciously ended his' streak, Brock Crushed Cena. The birth of "suplex city", cuz if Cena kicksout at 3 1/3, Taker's streak means less. So Brock said he was on the phone w/Austin & he said U can't Just go over🤏🏼, it'd be disrespectful. "What if..."
Will this subject ever let go 😂
Bret doesnt have to get over being mad his career got short
But can he just stop burying bill for no reason. It was an accident
I never had a problem with getting paid
Bill Goldberg was a two pump chump, I don't mean gross, but he was like Warrior was only good for a minute or so in a wrestling match. The fact is he ended Bret's career. Do I think Bret needs to learn to let it go? Yes, I do. But I think Goldberg began to think of himself as he was the best thing since sliced bread. They really should've sicked Haku on him.
Nash could never be Hogan in Japan....He always spoke positive of HH, I feel like there's some shade due to the political endorsement
WCW will always be a hilarious story of finger pointing and no accountability.
Hey Kev, touching on the GA club & football thing; How bad-azz was Chuck Smith? I've heard stories.
To me WCW shutting down was the worst thing to happen in the history of wrestling. Without competition WWE got lazy and boring. Given time WCW could have gotten better if they stayed in business. WWE had down times too. Imagine if when Stone Cold left WWE and he went to WCW just to piss off Vince. It could have happened.
Maybe, but the fact of the matter is that after the merger, the AOL execs did not want the product and were content to let it die by taking it off the air and selling it for a pittance to McMahon. Even if WCW was still getting big ratings, it still would have been eliminated because the wrestling audience was just not as valuable to advertisers no matter how many people were watching.
it died when Bischoff decided to stop dyeing his hair black 😂
It's crazy how dumb or clueless people actually are, a billion dollar business sold one of its assets and the new owner absorbed it... plain and simple. Saying bischoff, hogan and russo destroyed wcw is like saying the 1st mate, chef and butler sank the titanic. Brain damage is cumulative, if Bret has brain damage than it's from 20+ years of wrestling... not 1 kick.
Exactly.
100% it had nothing to do with any one in ring moment. Not even DA as champ. Even though people who were 6 years old when it happened like to make people think thats the reason.
You're telling another person when their head got damaged. Only the IWC!! LMAO
I probably watched more bad WCW than good WCW. It was a nice break from the WWE. For as good as WWE was they had a lot of bad segments too but made up for it with the main event talent but that midcard was weak.
Shane owns wcw
In fairness, Kev, Hulk wasn't a good worker.
WCW died on January 4, 1999
Me personally with Goldberg and bret hart would be two talents shouldn’t be in a ring together Goldberg shouldn’t of been in the ring at this point since he was still green at this point I wouldn’t say it was goldbergs fully responsible but in ways obviously he’s the one unfortunately ended harts career but it be one’s who rushed Goldberg training to get into the ring learn on the job type deal
WCW died when Vince killed it after the invasion .. plain and simple
Nash is a better wrestler than Hulk
he wasnt over with the win over bill. it wasnt good heat it was turn the channel heat
Just go back to every video, take the title, insert " I never had a problem" comment with said title.
Kevin flipping Nash and Jheri-Curl Scott Hall were the main reason I never gave a. Didn't care about WCW. Some of the worst humans in the world thrived in WCW.. WCW--EEEWWW!!
Hulk hogan the reason wit backstage politics n not getting anybody over n didn’t wrestle on tv only ppv kept the spotlight on him
I thought Neesam played a good Ra's Al Guhl
When vince russo appeared to me that's when i stop watching wcw.
The issue that's not that u were the most over guy, it's how you did it, that's when I say u use something in planning, that's like saying my money is sure so whatever, u think a burger King worker who save up his minimum wage to see you wrestle and you do that. How does he feels? Again his money from burger King wasn't sure, so he was cheated, it's like the nba when stars get guaranteed money and they choose to sit out games and people pay hard earn money to see him, yes nash that u still haven't gotten, that about you hurts me, because to me you are one of the greatest minds ever in wrestling
I know I’m just a “mark” but WCW is like anything else. The day someone stops putting money into it, it will fail. WWF/WWE I guess was making money hand over fist because of Austin and Rock but as soon as Austin turned heel and WCW was purchased their shit went down because the competition was what drove the business. So for instance, AEW sucks ass, but as long as they keep blowing cash to keep it on TV, it will stay around even though it sucks. So even if WCW was bought by Eric, it would only stay around as long as the money kept getting thrown in, or if it actually got better which I doubt WCW would have gotten better because it was already fucked at that point I feel. So bottom line is, as long as someone keeps putting money into any business it will never go away, but that doesn’t mean it’s making money. My wife works for the wrigleys and they keep pouring money into shit that doesn’t make any, but they just want to keep them around.
Exact same shape..sure I would hope so..what about drawing money?..Hogan drew money💰was Nash/Diesel a draw?..or just tall & a politician?
Dr applesauce ?
I think all wrestlers are marks for themselves.
WCW died when everyone working there said to themselves...I just don't care anymore..
Sheesh these are edited to shit lol
Just taking a man money and no returns and loosing for years, you Kev thinks that will happen forever, hogan helped killed wcw with creative control, Easy E killed wcw cause he gave away all that money, poke of doom all who is involved, nash as a genius he is never pushed to push Bret to world champ immediately and I think that's the undertaker, bret incident, that's what killed WCW
Every wrestler only has five moves, lol.