I knew Vince Russo has a big ego, but I didn’t fully understand how big it was until watching the documentary. I can understand why Jim Cornette HATES him now. 😂
Honestly to me, for behind the scenes revolations, David Arquette asking Booker about the world title was a real eye opener. You could tell it was all down hill from there.
Many answer about "who killed WCW" after I watch that documenter series : - AOL Time Warner - Turner Corporate - Turner Sports - Brad Siegel (Kevin Nash mentioned him) but Brad Siegel says "WCW killed itself" - Eric Bischoff - Vince Russo - Vince Russo says "business decision is killed WCW" - Hulk Hogan?
@@BeyondDaX I mean,when your boss heavily implies that he won't follow the contract you agreed to because it would require too much money and indirectly encourages you to negotiate with your opponent... What else would you have done in that situation? You definitely can point out Bret's stubbornness,but at the end of the day he went to WCW,because he didn't have a better option for himself. That's why I think he is especially bitter about WCW. He wanted to stay with WWE forever, but was forced to go to WCW,where he knew he would be wasted and he definitely was. I would be bitter as well
Something briefly mentioned was Ted Turner lost control of his Turner assets as the company grew due to mergers. Along with WCW, his other "toys" like the Braves and Hawks were also sold. The local TBS channel in Atlanta was also sold and TBS became a cable only channel. It is impossible to own private interests in a public company as more and more shareholders come in.
The product was circling the drain. What boggles me is Eric would have bought for around 60M(with investors), yet after the deal first fell, they sold the whole thing to Vince for like 4M. The library alone was worth at least 5x that amount.
You can blame snobby "elites" that thought wrestling was beneath thm on TELEVISION. And i can't remember what replaced Nitro but it was probably some generic movie of the week or some crappy tv show reruns......
That ship was already sinking by that time. Starcade 97 You build Sting for over a year to BEAT Hogan only for that disaster finish. Halloween Havoc 98 is up there to where HOgan had to get his Mania 6 win back from Warrior in a match NO ONE wanted
6:35 Russo is lying about the cage spear. Lance storm has said in a shoot interview that fit finely saved Russo by adding some more padding to the barricade that Russo was supposed to hit. It you go back and see where Russos head hits you can see the black padding. Thanks fit!
Weird Hogan said it was a last minute decision the evening of the event originally it was Sting. He was approached when the outsiders were gaining steam and he turned it down initially. So Hulk says they came to him with the idea and Bishoff said it was Hogans idea.
Hogan also said he said he needed to turn heel years before on the Rogan podcast which is poppy cock. Your timeline is the correct one, they left some stuff off the cutting room floor here. As Bischoff was only there with Hogan to ask him again to be the third man.
Speaking of which, Wrestlelamia, wasnt there a Behind The Titantron or Final Bell that was about the Death of WCW too? I remember it from years ago but its been gone for a while. Wish it was back.
@@jknight1984 I've looked everywhere I can and it's gone, as if it's been delisted or removed entirely. Edit: I just found where it is, it's in the Final Bell season 2 playlist, it's literally the thumbnail, but unavailable. I wish it was back.
That was a group effort. Everyone involved was apart of the demise of WCW. From Eric Bishoff. Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash Vince Russo. And all the people behind the scenes at Turner.
How many wrestling superstar hated hulk hogan in real life of wrestling on the list: 1) The Undertaker. 2) Bret Hart. 3) Steve Austin. 4) Shawn Michaels. 5) Macho Man. 6) Sting. 7) Ric Flair. 8) Scott Steiner. 9) Andre the Giant. 10) CM Punk. 11) Yokozuna. 12) Godfather. 13) Owen Hart. 14) John Cena. 15) Vince McMahon. 16) Brock Lesnar.
I hate him too. Very egotistical, massive racist, huge liar and highly overrated in the ring. McMahon is probably worse than Hogan but I do agree with you putting him here because they did had real life tension over the years.
You forgot Jesse Ventura he was trying to create a wrestling union in the 80s and Hogan snitch him out to Vince I don't think Jesse Ventura ever forgave him for that I would not blame him if he didn't
Rey Mysterio tossed through window would've work with fake glass. Him hanging half way inside through the window would've possibly looked more dangerous. His fall wasn't as bad as Ricochet.
The nwo wouldn't have worked aw well with sting. Hogan turning was a bigger shock but more importantly hogan wasn't the face to lead the charge against the nwo. It would have been him it just wouldn't have been as interesting
If they really wanted to save WCW and give it a chance they would’ve given it other days to be on tv. Saturday or Sunday mornings. The wrestling audience used to watch wrestling mainly on the weekends before Monday night Raw in 1993. Might’ve worked.
@@drmgiverdrmgiver5335 Vince wanted live prime time. He shifted the audience. WCW could’ve shifted it back. TBS had the original WCW show 605 pm Saturdays before all this Monday night war mess. And they did fine
There is a comment during the show that stuck with me 'Death by a thousand cuts'. Some people like to point to a single moment or a single person, when in reality it was a bunch of different people clashing, including the executives who were battling against it from day one in a way that I feel that a lot of people didn't know about, along with a bunch of decisions and moments creative wise by those people that just added up to 'Death by a thousand cuts'
The show is the show, and when the egos of the talent are prioritized over the show, the show itself suffers, and the audience will walk away. This almost killed off the WWE on more than one occasion. This is what killed WCW. This is what will eventually kill AEW.
We actually have it from Hogan himself that he declined the heel turn originally, they approached sting, and then Hogan later saw how well the group was doing, and asked to be brought in.
Bischoff actually wanted to turn Heel earlier, but Hogan said no. Thunder was Ted Turner's idea. Bischoff couldn't say no. When Bischoff went to TBS, they said they didn't have the funds to spare for the show. So he had no choice. If you haven't watched it, Bre actually admits that Goldberg warned him about the kick & they show 2 angles. In the 2nd angle you can see Bret get his hand up to block the kick. Bret knew exactly what was going on.
Look at the Hulk Hogan horrible dark past history of wrestling career on the list: 1) ego’s and selfish. 2) steroid abuser. 3) he’s a liar and racist. 4) using a backstage politics by holding a younger wrestler talented back. 5) destroying WCW and TNA wrestling company. 6) he got banned from AEW wrestling company by Tony Khan. 7) he’s never about the wrestling business, it’s all about him.
it wasnt any of them... the issue was inside the time warner parent company! not saying what russo and bischoff did helped but the real problem was the board of time warner splurging wcw profits, allowing wrestlers to have to much power, some of the storylines didnt help either like david arquette, malone, and all the other celebrities
If it wasn't for Ted Turner WCW would have been on the chopping block YEARS before it was. The Execs couldnt throw WCW off the air because it was still Turners network. untill the merger
@@beavis1887 If it wasn't for Ted Turner THERE WOULD NOT BE NO WCW the executives they hating wrestling even if it made money they thought wrestling was low class so even if wcw was handle financially better they still wanted to get rid of it because they think is beneath them
Vince McMahon single handedly is the reason why WCW & ECW Failed! Bought both companies with absolutely no plan on how to capitalize on them. All that talent and potential was squandered. 😢
He bought em out of spite and buried their biggest stars that agreed to work for him. Afew made it through the cracks and got over. RVD and Booker were two major ones who Vince couldn’t hold down. Took Booker awhile but he got over. And any big hitters they brought in later they buried but what didn’t help them were some came on board at the latter ends of their careers or when they were in bad physical shape.
Vince McMahon is smarter than that. He got close to ECW to kill it. He got to get close to their talent, and when TNN made the deal with ECW, Vince McMahon had TNN replace ECW with WWF Raw. Vince McMahon had people in the inside screwing WCW. WWF took top ECW talent, and use that fan base to help him beat WCW in the ratings. Every time ECW got a talent, & let them shine, Vince McMahon would snatch them. He took Austin, Foley & Lita from Paul Heyman. If Heyman had the Money he could've ruled wrestling. He just needed to make the adjustments the WWF and WCW were trying to do. Not like Vince Russo, if you watch the Documentary, he did lots of trash TV. And getting the Title right after Arguette had it, hurt the lineage of the WCW Titled even further.
Uh no.... Towards the end of WCW, they was struggling to the point where they had Vince Russo & David Arquette win their World title. That had nothing to do with Vince McMahon. WCW was on the decline at that point.
Man y’all still believe that conspiracy of McMahon sending Russo to kill WCW. Here’s the problem with that claim, WCW was already struggling and on their deathbed before Vince bought it. Yes he ruined a lot of the talent there because he’s a petty and egotistical pos but WCW already had gone downhill once the finger poke of doom and Warriors return happened.
@@dmercy8477 Maybe it could've done better had Russo not gone there. He did too much trash TV. Even though I think if someone helped McMahon, it could've been anyone. Nash, Hogan, even Bischoff. They did their stuff there, but the booking Nash did, the money that was thrown away, & the chaos the wrestlers caused, politics & so much more.
Small correction its been said before by EB and Sullivan but sting was plan B when Hulk refused the pitch initially. It was only at the last minute after Sullivan talked to him about how the industry had changed that he changed his mind. I only point it out because we have enough " lies of hulk hogan " vids already lol
Hulk revived it then backstabbed it first, bischoff gave it alcohol to bleed out faster, Russo gave it pills to put it out permanently, Bischoff refusing to acknowledge Hogan started the demise proves they are main culprits.
Anyone here who’s actually watched all four parts in its entirety? 🤚🏻 If you haven’t seen it, don’t blame Eric Bischoff. Turner networks never wanted it. So who killed WCW? Russo sped up what nameless and faceless people to wrestling fans did. Russo’s spin on…”the product?” 🤷♂️ just gave them an extra, sped up reason to pull the show and product they never wanted or understood the appeal of
That whole series could have been done much better, they should have had Hogan , Sting, Flair, Jericho, Steiner, Jarret, Sid and Mysterio in the interviews instead of Konan Felt like there was a lot left out, I know Rock produced it but his presence didn’t add anything to the whole series
We know that Goldberg has an ego. He has the right to have one since he won plenty of world titles. Sorry but backstage politics sucks, but sometimes you can use your name and power to get what you want in the wrestling business.
It was less about in ring work and more about terrible storylines, and bad booking. The in-ring work among the majority of wcw wrestlers (not celebrities or show workers jumping into the ring) was good.
Bischoff had ask Hogan to turn Heel, but he wouldn't, but when he saw the opportunity to team with Hall and Nash he took advantage of it. I think if Bret Hart hadn't resigned with WWF, I think they were preparing that spot for him. But Bret Hart resigned, but after his fight with Shawn Michaels, I feel Michaels told Vince McMahon he would leave if Bret Hart was still there. Michaels being the younger of the two. Vince McMahon choice HBK over Bret. That's why they tried to Brets popularity, just before he left. Bret Hart said this himself. I think Vince McMahon made an excuse on why he couldn't honor Bret Harts contract. The contract wasn't that big, but it was lengthy. Vince McMahon made lots of money from Bret Hart just in Canada. So I firmly believe ñ, HBK , Vince McMahon plotted his downfall.
Yeah it's an oversimplification that they presented in the show. Pretty sure the complete story is in controversy creates cash. Bisch had floated the idea of Hogan turning heel and he said no. Then when the NWO took off so hot Hogan said that in the trailer but it was more Bischoff going to Hogan with the intent of asking him to be the third man then it is presented here.
Mark Calaway is one of the Safest Workers out there. My all time favorite Wrestler. I'll never understood why Bollea has to LIE about having to be Tombstoned by Calaway.
@@drmgiverdrmgiver5335they bankrupt them and the company changed ownership like 3 times. They we’re doing great and gained good momentum before Eric and hogan joined them
@@drmgiverdrmgiver5335 They killed what set it apart from WWE to try and recapture the WCW magic and failed to reignite the Monday Night War. It may still be around but its relevance is questionable as it bounces among obscure channels since leaving Spike/Paramount.
Well the main issue is no one ever asked Jamie Kellner if he would have kept it if the ratings and or finances where still good. Or if another network would have picked it up. If both of those answers are no then yeah 100% the merger.
4:40 Thats exactly why I never followed WCW. I heard of them and looked into it to see if it would be worth watching and when I heard a movie star was the world champion it put me off ever watching it
Let’s he honest , nitros ratings are what raw was getting in the late 00’s, WCW died because of a corporate merger . The huge losses were a shifting of corporate finance , you cannot tell me WCW realistically lost more money in 2000 compared to WCW in 91,92,93 who didn’t draw at all
@@joeboggio4002 - he didn’t help, neither. Even though when Herd took over, it was in the late 80’s, early 90’s. Even back then, WCW barely survived Herd’s reign.
I say what killed WCW was when Crockett sold it. They were completely devoted to pro wrestling. After that, it was all built on a fractured foundation.
I knew Vince Russo has a big ego, but I didn’t fully understand how big it was until watching the documentary.
I can understand why Jim Cornette HATES him now. 😂
when u decide to live a healthy lifestyle just to outlive someone younger than u to piss on their grave? yeah, the hate is special lol
I want to argue against Bischoff being in your list;
but, I know I’d be mad wrong if I did.
@@solascriptura-e7t Even though he has a big ego too, I’d rather deal with Bischoff than Russo.
To be fair, Cornette seems to hate everybody
@@decker528 You ain’t wrong.
Honestly to me, for behind the scenes revolations, David Arquette asking Booker about the world title was a real eye opener. You could tell it was all down hill from there.
Many answer about "who killed WCW" after I watch that documenter series :
- AOL Time Warner
- Turner Corporate
- Turner Sports
- Brad Siegel (Kevin Nash mentioned him) but Brad Siegel says "WCW killed itself"
- Eric Bischoff
- Vince Russo
- Vince Russo says "business decision is killed WCW"
- Hulk Hogan?
More like everyone at Turner except Ted Turner killed WCW
When I think about WCW it brings me back to my childhood back in the 90s and it also makes me want to Play WCW Revenge on the Nintendo 64
😎👍
Everyone is blaming each other for the demise of WCW while Bret Hart calls out everyone xD
Even though Bret was partly at fault for going to WcW to begin with
@@BeyondDaX I mean,when your boss heavily implies that he won't follow the contract you agreed to because it would require too much money and indirectly encourages you to negotiate with your opponent... What else would you have done in that situation?
You definitely can point out Bret's stubbornness,but at the end of the day he went to WCW,because he didn't have a better option for himself.
That's why I think he is especially bitter about WCW. He wanted to stay with WWE forever, but was forced to go to WCW,where he knew he would be wasted and he definitely was. I would be bitter as well
Especially Goldberg ☝️😂
Something briefly mentioned was Ted Turner lost control of his Turner assets as the company grew due to mergers. Along with WCW, his other "toys" like the Braves and Hawks were also sold. The local TBS channel in Atlanta was also sold and TBS became a cable only channel. It is impossible to own private interests in a public company as more and more shareholders come in.
Yea AOL played Turner big time.
Yeah, the merger caused him to figure out too late he had no power
The pictures for the video are hilarious..🤣🤣
Hulk Hogan, Eric Bischoff and Vince Russo = the three stooges who killed WCW
wasn't russo it was already in the toilet before russo signed it was hulk and biscoff
WCW was slowly going into downhill spiral prior to Vince Russo being hired on as lead writer he just accelerated it.
Was Bill Goldberg
Wrong
I'd say the TV station canceling their programming thus making it all but worthless to potential buyers.
I can see why throwing Rey into the trailer was the right choice. Aside from the size difference it would literally be less impactful.
Every time Russo says Bro, I lose a few brain cells
lol apparently he said it like 353 times the whole 4 episodes run
I can’t watch his interviews because of that, lol
Thank God for osmosis.
Hulk hogan might have contributed to the demise of wcw but he was also instrumental to it's success in the 1st place
WCW was on life support when Russo took over but he definitely sped up the process wit his booking tho
The product was circling the drain. What boggles me is Eric would have bought for around 60M(with investors), yet after the deal first fell, they sold the whole thing to Vince for like 4M. The library alone was worth at least 5x that amount.
You can blame snobby "elites" that thought wrestling was beneath thm on TELEVISION. And i can't remember what replaced Nitro but it was probably some generic movie of the week or some crappy tv show reruns......
@@americanbadass88 Yep. When AEW got a TNT deal the network executives didn't even know that the channel used to have wrestling on it.
Ted wanted Thunder. TBS hoped for its own top show.
Bishoff telling Tony S to announce Mick Foley winning the WWE title was the beginning of the end
I would say the Hogan/Sting Starrcade '97 fiasco was the true begin of the end for WCW.
@@DBoy38yeah their biggest match to have a double finish really ruined the long story they built up the match with
Eric Bichoff joining the NWO was the beginning of the downfall
That ship was already sinking by that time. Starcade 97 You build Sting for over a year to BEAT Hogan only for that disaster finish. Halloween Havoc 98 is up there to where HOgan had to get his Mania 6 win back from Warrior in a match NO ONE wanted
@@DBoy38 No it wasn't. WCW made record profits the next year.
Goldberg spearing Russo might be the highlight of Goldberg’s career.
“ That politician hulk Hogan “
Damn straight, there's no other way. I wouldn't give up my spot either and anyone that says otherwise is just lying.
Nope check your facts, 2 vs. 1 Hogan and Bischoff are both on the same page it was Russos nonesne.
The fact that David Arquette winning the belt was Tony Schovoine idea is what got me.
6:35 Russo is lying about the cage spear. Lance storm has said in a shoot interview that fit finely saved Russo by adding some more padding to the barricade that Russo was supposed to hit. It you go back and see where Russos head hits you can see the black padding. Thanks fit!
Weird Hogan said it was a last minute decision the evening of the event originally it was Sting. He was approached when the outsiders were gaining steam and he turned it down initially. So Hulk says they came to him with the idea and Bishoff said it was Hogans idea.
Hogan also said he said he needed to turn heel years before on the Rogan podcast which is poppy cock. Your timeline is the correct one, they left some stuff off the cutting room floor here. As Bischoff was only there with Hogan to ask him again to be the third man.
Speaking of which, Wrestlelamia, wasnt there a Behind The Titantron or Final Bell that was about the Death of WCW too? I remember it from years ago but its been gone for a while. Wish it was back.
Should be saved in a playlist if I believe.
@@jknight1984 I've looked everywhere I can and it's gone, as if it's been delisted or removed entirely.
Edit: I just found where it is, it's in the Final Bell season 2 playlist, it's literally the thumbnail, but unavailable. I wish it was back.
@@kosakukawajiri5007 damn.
We been knew this info. Eric Bishoff talked about this countless times on his podcasts
I personally choose Vince Russo as the culprit. WCW was already dying, but instead of giving it a peaceful death, he gave it an ultimate kill shot.
That was a group effort. Everyone involved was apart of the demise of WCW. From Eric Bishoff. Hulk Hogan, Kevin Nash Vince Russo. And all the people behind the scenes at Turner.
Like Bill Goldberg said, "If I wanted to hurt Vince Russo, he'd be in the ground".
How many wrestling superstar hated hulk hogan in real life of wrestling on the list:
1) The Undertaker.
2) Bret Hart.
3) Steve Austin.
4) Shawn Michaels.
5) Macho Man.
6) Sting.
7) Ric Flair.
8) Scott Steiner.
9) Andre the Giant.
10) CM Punk.
11) Yokozuna.
12) Godfather.
13) Owen Hart.
14) John Cena.
15) Vince McMahon.
16) Brock Lesnar.
Me as well
I hate him too. Very egotistical, massive racist, huge liar and highly overrated in the ring. McMahon is probably worse than Hogan but I do agree with you putting him here because they did had real life tension over the years.
You forgot Jesse Ventura he was trying to create a wrestling union in the 80s and Hogan snitch him out to Vince
I don't think Jesse Ventura ever forgave him for that I would not blame him if he didn't
Rey Mysterio tossed through window would've work with fake glass. Him hanging half way inside through the window would've possibly looked more dangerous. His fall wasn't as bad as Ricochet.
The nwo wouldn't have worked aw well with sting. Hogan turning was a bigger shock but more importantly hogan wasn't the face to lead the charge against the nwo. It would have been him it just wouldn't have been as interesting
And again more great WRESTLING CONTENT 😎
I feel like the death of wcw was caused by sooo many things the relations with the network and the writers (sometimes) and honestly Hogan
While WWF was starting matches and progressing the storylines WCW had Hogan on the microphone for a full hour or 45 minutes LOL
Wrong. You weirdos need to stop with the revisionist history
@kingbullyrock8739 Hogan fanboy
If they really wanted to save WCW and give it a chance they would’ve given it other days to be on tv. Saturday or Sunday mornings. The wrestling audience used to watch wrestling mainly on the weekends before Monday night Raw in 1993. Might’ve worked.
They had a Saturday morning and a Saturday evening show. In fact, the last WCW show ever broadcast was the Saturday morning show.
@@drmgiverdrmgiver5335 indeed. Also WWF in the 1980s was Saturday morning staple. Superstars
@@JUVI9596 so it clearly didn't work.
@@drmgiverdrmgiver5335 Vince wanted live prime time. He shifted the audience. WCW could’ve shifted it back. TBS had the original WCW show 605 pm Saturdays before all this Monday night war mess. And they did fine
I never liked seeing Russo on tv when i was a kid
Same
There is a comment during the show that stuck with me 'Death by a thousand cuts'. Some people like to point to a single moment or a single person, when in reality it was a bunch of different people clashing, including the executives who were battling against it from day one in a way that I feel that a lot of people didn't know about, along with a bunch of decisions and moments creative wise by those people that just added up to 'Death by a thousand cuts'
Hogan, Nash, Eric, Vince were the talent responsible along with the corporate guys who hated the company.
If you been a fan since this period in time you already knew 90%+ of the stuff in this “doc”.
Good content for people tuning in after the recent success in WWE
True but some people like me didn't watch WCW every night when it came on.
@@DavidS4209 There were magazines & dirt shirts back then so 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️.
WCW is still badly missed
The show is the show, and when the egos of the talent are prioritized over the show, the show itself suffers, and the audience will walk away. This almost killed off the WWE on more than one occasion. This is what killed WCW. This is what will eventually kill AEW.
This right here 100%
AEW will sign Shane McMahon
@@punchy1325 also hiring the rock band kiss didn't help either
Excellent video
We actually have it from Hogan himself that he declined the heel turn originally, they approached sting, and then Hogan later saw how well the group was doing, and asked to be brought in.
Bischoff actually wanted to turn Heel earlier, but Hogan said no.
Thunder was Ted Turner's idea. Bischoff couldn't say no. When Bischoff went to TBS, they said they didn't have the funds to spare for the show. So he had no choice.
If you haven't watched it, Bre actually admits that Goldberg warned him about the kick & they show 2 angles. In the 2nd angle you can see Bret get his hand up to block the kick. Bret knew exactly what was going on.
It was a sad end to WCW towards the end it was hard to watch so many stupid story lines and wasted talent 😢
4:17 Yeah this was arguably the most controversial booking decision ever made in WCW...
5:03 Those were dark times when Russo took over as head writer...
Time passes, but the memories last forever.
Look at the Hulk Hogan horrible dark past history of wrestling career on the list:
1) ego’s and selfish.
2) steroid abuser.
3) he’s a liar and racist.
4) using a backstage politics by holding a younger wrestler talented back.
5) destroying WCW and TNA wrestling company.
6) he got banned from AEW wrestling company by Tony Khan.
7) he’s never about the wrestling business, it’s all about him.
"That doesn't work for me brother." - Hulk Hogan when asked to put someone over
Thank God Tony Khan banned him! One of the best decisions I've ever heard.
it wasnt any of them... the issue was inside the time warner parent company! not saying what russo and bischoff did helped but the real problem was the board of time warner splurging wcw profits, allowing wrestlers to have to much power, some of the storylines didnt help either like david arquette, malone, and all the other celebrities
I know people hate on Nash beating Goldberg - but to Nash's point, look how crazy the crowd goes during the pin. He was MASSIVELY over at the time.
Ted Turner’s mugshot should be there too.
If it wasn't for Ted Turner WCW would have been on the chopping block YEARS before it was. The Execs couldnt throw WCW off the air because it was still Turners network. untill the merger
@@americanbadass88 if Turner would have forced a little financial responsibility on them, they might not have been broke in the end.
@@beavis1887 If it wasn't for Ted Turner THERE WOULD NOT BE NO WCW the executives they hating wrestling even if it made money they thought wrestling was low class so even if wcw was handle financially better they still wanted to get rid of it because they think is beneath them
Vince McMahon single handedly is the reason why WCW & ECW Failed! Bought both companies with absolutely no plan on how to capitalize on them. All that talent and potential was squandered. 😢
He bought em out of spite and buried their biggest stars that agreed to work for him. Afew made it through the cracks and got over. RVD and Booker were two major ones who Vince couldn’t hold down. Took Booker awhile but he got over. And any big hitters they brought in later they buried but what didn’t help them were some came on board at the latter ends of their careers or when they were in bad physical shape.
Vince McMahon is smarter than that. He got close to ECW to kill it. He got to get close to their talent, and when TNN made the deal with ECW, Vince McMahon had TNN replace ECW with WWF Raw. Vince McMahon had people in the inside screwing WCW.
WWF took top ECW talent, and use that fan base to help him beat WCW in the ratings.
Every time ECW got a talent, & let them shine, Vince McMahon would snatch them. He took Austin, Foley & Lita from Paul Heyman. If Heyman had the Money he could've ruled wrestling. He just needed to make the adjustments the WWF and WCW were trying to do.
Not like Vince Russo, if you watch the Documentary, he did lots of trash TV.
And getting the Title right after Arguette had it, hurt the lineage of the WCW Titled even further.
Uh no.... Towards the end of WCW, they was struggling to the point where they had Vince Russo & David Arquette win their World title. That had nothing to do with Vince McMahon. WCW was on the decline at that point.
Man y’all still believe that conspiracy of McMahon sending Russo to kill WCW. Here’s the problem with that claim, WCW was already struggling and on their deathbed before Vince bought it. Yes he ruined a lot of the talent there because he’s a petty and egotistical pos but WCW already had gone downhill once the finger poke of doom and Warriors return happened.
@@dmercy8477 Maybe it could've done better had Russo not gone there. He did too much trash TV. Even though I think if someone helped McMahon, it could've been anyone. Nash, Hogan, even Bischoff. They did their stuff there, but the booking Nash did, the money that was thrown away, & the chaos the wrestlers caused, politics & so much more.
I watched WCW since i was a little kid in the 80's up until early 2000's. When i look back i realize i lost interest when Russo showed up.
Small correction its been said before by EB and Sullivan but sting was plan B when Hulk refused the pitch initially. It was only at the last minute after Sullivan talked to him about how the industry had changed that he changed his mind. I only point it out because we have enough " lies of hulk hogan " vids already lol
Hulk revived it then backstabbed it first, bischoff gave it alcohol to bleed out faster, Russo gave it pills to put it out permanently, Bischoff refusing to acknowledge Hogan started the demise proves they are main culprits.
Undertaker killed WCW slowly when he signed with wwf
Anyone here who’s actually watched all four parts in its entirety? 🤚🏻
If you haven’t seen it, don’t blame Eric Bischoff. Turner networks never wanted it. So who killed WCW? Russo sped up what nameless and faceless people to wrestling fans did. Russo’s spin on…”the product?” 🤷♂️ just gave them an extra, sped up reason to pull the show and product they never wanted or understood the appeal of
"According to eric bischoff" should be an oxymoron.
The guy had all the talent and lost it all .😂
That whole series could have been done much better, they should have had Hogan , Sting, Flair, Jericho, Steiner, Jarret, Sid and Mysterio in the interviews instead of Konan
Felt like there was a lot left out, I know Rock produced it but his presence didn’t add anything to the whole series
WCW WCW WCW oh God i hate Goldberg
We know that Goldberg has an ego. He has the right to have one since he won plenty of world titles. Sorry but backstage politics sucks, but sometimes you can use your name and power to get what you want in the wrestling business.
What does the Rey thing have to do with the death of WCW ?
Nothing. This video is bait.
This video is supposed to be about the death of WCW but they put rey wanting to be put through glass as part of the demise? Really?
Two Words: Jamie Kellner Killed WCW And He's Dead.
Two Words? 🤣🤣
Kimberly Page 😍 😍 😍
2:17 “Eric Bischoff revealed that Hogan was the one responsible for the nonsensical Starrcade ‘97 match.” . . . I feel like all knew that, Eric
We Can’t Wrestle was horrible from 1998-2001! Thank you Billionaire Ted, Uncle Eric, Vince Russo, Hogan, Nash, & all of the NWO!
Can you wrestle
It's World Championship wrestling not We can't wrestle
It was less about in ring work and more about terrible storylines, and bad booking. The in-ring work among the majority of wcw wrestlers (not celebrities or show workers jumping into the ring) was good.
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They all killed w c w. russo hogan and bischoff
The telliing of Cactus Jack title win is what really f up their ratings..
Everyone except Sting
Please let's never talk about the death of WCW, Montreal screw job, Monday night wars, or the curtain call. It's all been covered to death
It’s still covered, because enough people are still interested
I watched the first episode and saw nothing new. I haven’t watched the rest.
Sorry buddy it's part of wrestling history 😊
@@shanewise6769because it's the same stuff we have heard over and ovet
@@junkscorpion7011so is chris benoit but hardly anyone talks about him.
Jamie Kellner killed WCW
Really ironic that I ended up watching Hulk Hogan wrassling app, for 5 seconds and his face is on the thumbnail of this video.
Wait, I thought it was Eric Bischoff’s idea for Hogan to turn heel and Hogan was the reluctant one.
Correct.
Bischoff had ask Hogan to turn Heel, but he wouldn't, but when he saw the opportunity to team with Hall and Nash he took advantage of it.
I think if Bret Hart hadn't resigned with WWF, I think they were preparing that spot for him.
But Bret Hart resigned, but after his fight with Shawn Michaels, I feel Michaels told Vince McMahon he would leave if Bret Hart was still there.
Michaels being the younger of the two.
Vince McMahon choice HBK over Bret.
That's why they tried to Brets popularity, just before he left. Bret Hart said this himself.
I think Vince McMahon made an excuse on why he couldn't honor Bret Harts contract. The contract wasn't that big, but it was lengthy. Vince McMahon made lots of money from Bret Hart just in Canada.
So I firmly believe ñ, HBK , Vince McMahon plotted his downfall.
Yeah it's an oversimplification that they presented in the show. Pretty sure the complete story is in controversy creates cash. Bisch had floated the idea of Hogan turning heel and he said no. Then when the NWO took off so hot Hogan said that in the trailer but it was more Bischoff going to Hogan with the intent of asking him to be the third man then it is presented here.
He ruined two incredible title runs kelvin Owens and The Fiend 2019
Kelvin?
Lmao. Kelvin Owens is Kevin's nerdy brother.
@@WilDBeestMFI heard him and Brain Strowman hang out
And they gave the title to Brick Lesnar.
@@DeadEye42069 Them two and Cory Roads are like the 3 stooges at the bar, I heard.
Hulk Hogan is a weak era champion of wrestling.
He's like the Babe Ruth of wrestling. Iconic but there was definitely better afterwards. Plus he's a dumpster fire outside of wrestling
hogan: this ain't gonna work for me brother, filing a defamation of character class action law suit
I hated Vince Russo, and he should get most of the blame for ending WCW.
The Undertaker: The GOAT of wrestling.
Hulk Hogan: The RAT of wrestling.
RAT stands for
Mark Calaway is one of the Safest Workers out there. My all time favorite Wrestler. I'll never understood why Bollea has to LIE about having to be Tombstoned by Calaway.
@@Tornado1994 Being a safe worker doesn't draw money. Hogan drew more money in the business than anyone.
Hogan, Bischoff, and Russo pretty much sums it up and maybe Kevin Nash(im think). Fun Fact: Hogan, Bischoff. Nash also killed TNA.
Yeah, it was around they took over that I started to lose interest.
If it was "killed", how is it still on?
@@drmgiverdrmgiver5335they bankrupt them and the company changed ownership like 3 times. They we’re doing great and gained good momentum before Eric and hogan joined them
@@drmgiverdrmgiver5335 They killed what set it apart from WWE to try and recapture the WCW magic and failed to reignite the Monday Night War. It may still be around but its relevance is questionable as it bounces among obscure channels since leaving Spike/Paramount.
Russo was there 2.
can u do Shocking Revelations We Now Know About The Death Of ECW
WCW is here as AEW TNT🔥🔥🔥💥 mostly Americen is not understanding IT 😂😂
What's the music used in this video as it's great
It was the merger plain and simple. Those that say otherwise are simply wrong and just parroting what they hear others say.
Well the main issue is no one ever asked Jamie Kellner if he would have kept it if the ratings and or finances where still good. Or if another network would have picked it up. If both of those answers are no then yeah 100% the merger.
Can someone tell me where I can watch this documentary really fast?
Vice TV network or try You Tube they have free episodes.
What's the background music theme on this video?
Wait WCW failed?
-Slowpoke
Tony shiovani with his suggestion of Arquette..lol
4:40 Thats exactly why I never followed WCW. I heard of them and looked into it to see if it would be worth watching and when I heard a movie star was the world champion it put me off ever watching it
Old-berg made himself look grumpy AF
Let’s he honest , nitros ratings are what raw was getting in the late 00’s, WCW died because of a corporate merger . The huge losses were a shifting of corporate finance , you cannot tell me WCW realistically lost more money in 2000 compared to WCW in 91,92,93 who didn’t draw at all
WrestleLamia do a video why ECW DIED
Eric not wanting thunder was not a revelation
I liked WCW Thunder
Let’s not forget what Jim Herd did to WCW, many years prior.
And Vince Russo was the ABSOLUTE worst hire.
Eh...Jim Herd is off the hook here I think. How damage was undone after Bischoff took over
@@joeboggio4002 - he didn’t help, neither.
Even though when Herd took over, it was in the late 80’s, early 90’s.
Even back then, WCW barely survived Herd’s reign.
I wonder if Hulk Hogan ever has creative control when he would wrestle in Japan
Hulk Hogan = Moe
Eric Bischoff = Larry
Vince Russo = Curly
Kavin Nash needs a sign that says, " and i helped"
You forgot Kevin Nash in that picture! Should be the four of them!
I say what killed WCW was when Crockett sold it. They were completely devoted to pro wrestling. After that, it was all built on a fractured foundation.
VICE teaching WrestleLamia about wrestling? Who comes out better? There's a "blind leading blind" joke here...
Vince Russo literally made the attitude era and yall hate him
..all these years thought it was Vince McMahon
Bischoff got off easy TBH