@@VOANthats cause all the top stars had left and Michaels and taker was by him self basically when stone cold And rock same on the scene wcw was done for
@cliffbot638 They wanted to finish what they started in WCW. But TNA was steps below them and even ECW to extent. But 2006-2009 was the peak years and we thought back then that they could go up against the WWE. But now we know the truth.
I'm sure Bischoff and Hogan learned their lessons from WCW. They made money off of WCW, they made money off of TNA, and they went on to make more money after TNA. Bischoff to this day has supporters who believe he's one of the brighter geniuses of wrestling.
Let me tell you something, dudes, I was about to help Jesus off that cross myself but Mary Magdalene started going into business for herself and called those Roman marks to ruin everything"
Hiring Hogan was brilliant. Giving him power was the disaster. If he were simply an on-air talent and brand ambassador, things could have worked out tremendously.
@@jasoncoward-aintscaredwhile, yes, in theory, I still think it wouldn't have worked Remember, after his announcement, he had an interview, WITH LARRY KING, and he barely said anything about him being a part of TNA Hell, I don't remember him plugging the company in any of his media appearances between when he joined, and when he left(unless I missed one) So, he was useless, even in that side
One thing I respect about Dixie Carter is that she knew that she didn't know how to run a wrestling company. Hence, why she hired other people to do it for her? Unfortunately she hired the wrong people.
*TNA was at its peak are during the early to mid 2000s. You had incredible wrestlers like AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Sting, Kurt Angle, Christopher Daniels and so many others. They made TNA so awesome and then Hogan and Bischoff came along and nearly destroyed the entire company. I honestly consider it a miracle that they’re still in business despite all the dumb mistakes they made over the past decade.*
Scott d'amore is the reason they are still in the business. The man did wonders for TNA. That is why AEW needs to hire him ASAP as soon as his non compete clause ends in feb 2025.
Yeah it unbelievable, they outlived WCW and ECW. TNA got back on track at the beginning of this year and never looked back. Just hope they go in more bigger arenas and venues.
@@sickpup820 d'amore was the one who set the tone for the future. Plus he was the one who signed talents like Trinity, Ziggler, matt cardinal and Drew Galloway and etc. he deserves all the credit as well.
@@iAintSayDat 10-14 years removed from the Monday night wars the fanbase was totally different in that era. Most attitude era people watched UFC instead.
The “putting WWE out of business” mentality is also why such endeavours fail. They had their own product and it simply needed some better tuning and refinement. It needed to be a proper alternative to WWE, not a WWE killer, because then it would have to out-WWE the actual WWE and that was never going to happen, especially not by the chuckles who failed at accomplishing that with WCW and Turner’s money.
The most ridiculous part of all this is how much creative control did Hogan have that he made Dixie Carter hold on to his leg while dragging her across the stage like a child.
@@Tom_Ate_95 I was embarrassed to watch that segment. Do you think she believed it would actually help her company? Hogan is deadly with 100% creative control.
Don't forget Vince Russo was working behind the scenes of TNA when Hogan and Bischoff was there too. Bischoff, Hogan & Russo = ratings decline & failure. Why people haven't learned anything from the last year of WCW?
Russo was killing it in 09 actually maybe his best TV run ever in the business. Had AJ on top and a lot of great things. Never gets credit for what he did do right. He had no real pull in Hogan era. He's said it himself
I was an avid TNA guy pre Hogan and Bischoff. I especially loved the X-Division. The very first episode with Hogan, I knew it was over and was going to sh1t. The fact they jobbed out Daniels to an out of shape Val Venus literally a week after he was fighting for the world title still irks me to this day. I tried to stick with it, but it got worse and worse. It dropped from UK TV and wasn't worth the effort to find it elsewhere.
We went from Final Resolution 2009 where two guys who had been in the company from practically the start AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels fought for the World Championship to Genesis 2010 just four weeks later where Daniels lost to Val Venis... Val fucking Venis in 2010, a man who hadn't been relevant since the year 2000 and AJ Styles randomly turned heel to retain the world championship while becoming Mini Naitch Jr v2.0. The Main Event Mafia era of 08-09 was not great all things considered but it finally lead to old guys stepping aside for the younger guys. Then two months later Hogan and Bischoff show up and just throw all the old guys on the show while putting many of the popular younger acts on the backburner once more.
Jeff Hardy was set to take a two-month break starting October 2010 for his daughter’s birth. To persuade him to postpone, they offered his dream, a heel turn. 💯
What bothered me about this is NONE of the wrestlers like Steiner, Jarrett and Sting stood and said….DON’T LET THIS HAPPEN?? Some of the wrestlers stood up to keep Heyman from being hired there. Choice is obvious, they should’ve hired Heyman.
Because Steiner, Jarrett and Sting benefit. Veterans benefit. It's the younger roster who suffer from the bad storylines, horrible roles and burials. Heyman puts on a great product but he was a bad manager and businessman behind the scenes. It's kind of a opposite with Bischoff. And they're not going to complain because it's their heroes and the numbers and paydays did shoot up for a while. Until it all came crashing down and by then it was too late.
What annoys me about bischoff is he blamed everyone else for the demise of WCW and then here he is with a fresh clean slate to do it all over again and he does the same thing again allowing hogan and others to run the asylum as he goes to the well with the same nonsense ideas.
@@LiClan a mastermind at ruining his best two babyfaces, the finger poke of doom was 4d chess levels of being a mastermind, or is it letting a red and yellow racist run wild on him. Bischoff is a one trick Dog that has failed not one but two companies.
Bringing in Hogan and Bischoff after what they did to WCW is like seeing someone killed by a poisoned drink and telling the barkeep I’LL HAVE WHAT THEY’RE HAVING
This is a sore subject to me up to this day. TNA never recovered and got their charm back after this, I despise all of the people involved in this catastrophe
As a well-known wrestling manager once said, "(Eric) Bischoff is a used-car salesman that got involved with wrestling." That, by itself, speaks volumes.
What wouldve been a better move for TNA if he was available, and that's hiring Paul Heyman. Yes, Heyman didnt pay his stars on ECW consistently, but he knew how to book a show. A great reference of this is look at how Smackdown under his watch beat Raw weekly
Eric Bischoff hates AEW with passion just because he thought Tony would hire him, but they only called him to make an cameo appearance in 2020. He's very salty LOL
@DomSte128 cause Tony knows better. He may be a huge wrestling fan, but he's also a business man, and so is his father. It's amazing how people's egos get them into trouble. Just look at kevin nash
@@DomSte128 that's exactly why I don't feel bad for him. He knows what he's doing. He would rather blame everything on everyone else instead of owning up to anything. He'll always be a selfish piece of shit to me
Heartbreaking. 💔 Those were dark times in television history. I still watched it all to the end. As a teenager, I love aj styles, awesome kong and gail kim, they kept that company afloat for a long time...
Money can't buy ratings and good storylines either people wanna watch or they dont....even WWE at this time was going through some bad ratings....I still can't believe they really tried to reform the nWo for the 1000 time, nash and them could barely walk lol
Eric Bischoff trying to relive his WCW glory days and Hogan trying to relive his NWO days from WCW both through TNA which none were successful financially for TNA.
Just like what Dixie Carter said about TNA being the biggest wrestling company. Tony Khan said the same thing about AEW. 5 years later and those comments have gotten his company nowhere. These people have learned nothing from trying to beat WWE
TNA was never gonna reach wwe’s level of popularity or even surpass it even without hulk or Eric being there. It was just another niche company like ECW or Roh (really dedicated fan base with some good matches but nothing else to captivate the masses) and now look at TNA or Impact it’s barley hanging on in the industry.
Dixie Carter was the main problem as she was the one that was pushing for TNA to be WWE lite and cared about old wrestling big names rather than the best wrestling minds. Hogan had only ever booked himself and that was with creative control or backstage politicking and Bischoff was still burnt out from WCW and was never a great booker outside of the one big storyline.
Honesty if they just let their roster develop without Hogan and Bischoff they would have done well. Aces and 8s were some of Bubbas best stuff, Perc Angle was the best wrestler in the world at the time, the X division was amazing, AJ Styles was in his prime and a ton of other support style wrestlers. But the egos of Hogan and Bischoff couldn’t be controlled and they were too expensive and ruined it
This is why Tony Khan will never hire Eric Bitchoff. Also, its why Eric bashes AEW every chance he gets. It because Tony Khan wont give him a job and who could blame him. Bitchoff destroyed 2 wrestling companies.
That and the fact that bischoff failed at everything he has done his production company, his run booking smackdown, his podcasts, hell best he can do now is working for Conrad as a mortgage broker lol
I didn't like super Cena so I started watching TNA in 2007. I instantly noticed the "wrestling" was better. TNA was building stars back then too. Even people who didn't watch TNA knew of Samoa Joe, Aj Styles, Abyss, and ofc Sting\Kurt angle were the established stars. It really was the better show for a short time. Wwe didn't improve. Tna just got way worse after Hogan/Bischoff.
Its amazing how so many people can endlessly fail upwards. Its like they've done a deal with the devil and they could literally burn a business to the ground and have 6 more desperate to hand them an even bigger contract.
Honestly if I was Hogan I'd have done the same I've always said it's a job at the end of the day just like any job and at a job your there to do what's best for yourself and that's it. Think about it at your job are you there to do what helps other people get a promotion, to get others a raise, to put the company before yourself? Hell no your not your there to do what's best for you and make money and that's it
This is not just a regular job. This is job where fans all over the world come and support to be entertained. At least gives those people their moneys worth but hogan didn’t care much about that
My stance on "prime" TNA: The notion that a 6 sided ring would confuse the audience as to whether or not the audience knew they were watching wrestling is literally one of the stupidest things I've ever heard about wrestling. It instantly gave them an identity and became synonymous with their branding. But then again, I didn't have to take bumps in it night in & night out, and I literally can't think of one TNA alumni who DIDN'T say that ring was both a pain in the ass for running the ropes, and yes, taking bumps: Wrestler's safety comes before fan enjoyment. I'm not sure why they didn't take a shot at building a "softer" version of the 6 sided ring, but it's clearly irrelevant by this point. Honestly, January 2010 TNA was sooooooooo awful that it was brilliant. From February on... Their cancer metastesized. I actually have tons of respect for Bischoff. His (deserved) nickname "ATM Eric" aside, nothing can erase the fact that he was at the helm of WCW's most creative & lucrative period and LEGITIMATELY came closer than anyone before or since at killing the pro wrestling version of King Kong. To paraphrase Birdman, put some "respeck" on his name.
I am still Stunned by the original business model for TNA. How many people actually forked out for a $10 PPV when the vast majority of the talent was unknown to even loyal WCW and ECW fans?
Any new wrestling company out there needs to focus on the talent they already have and picking up new fresh talent. Not some washed up wrestlers from the early eras. Like really? Hogan Nash Pac Hall and Bishoff again? Oh my god.
After what happened with WCW, AND the fact that both had just spent some good years in WWE, Bischoff and Hogan still wanted to try to cripple WWE. Wtf?
Hogan is beyond toxic, this guy can't just disappear and live he's life, he's always in the media, interviews and making appearances............. Hulk give it up! your done
The ring change literally changed everything. They’ve never even gone back. That WAS tna back then. We knew it BECAUSE of the ring. They should have updated it and made it safer for wrestlers but they should have never gotten rid of it
the talent they had even the females was just unique.. now they top are former wwe guys all with the belts.not a company with their own talent. Before Eric they had literally they own people..
I was a TNA evangelist in college. I loved the company. I loved how they were leaving WWE behind on RUclips by offering full matches. I remember being confused and frustrated at how they wouldn't promote their X-Division wrestlers more. I didn't like it at all. When they switched to a 4 corner ring, I tuned out completely. I honestly didn't know what happened before I watched this video.
went to wwe show Not sold out, they said TONIGHT IN SOLD OUT ARENA!! it wasmt whole corners and sides was not close to it. but hey believe haters hating lol AEW shows the crowds and looks packed to me.
2009 was TNA’s best year. Hiring Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff seemed good on paper but changing the ring back to four sides (which was bad enough as it made the company unique) and having them compete with RAW (even with WWE in a mediocre state at the time is still a bigger draw than any other wrestling company) before going back to Thursdays were huge signs that the company was never gonna be the same. By the time they remove the cancer and brought back the six sided ring the damage had been done. It’s amazing how TNA is still alive but I’m glad they’re still thriving.
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Bischoff spends every day on his podcast talking trash about AEW, yet he ruined not 1, but 2 companies.
He's still living off that high of beating WWE in ratings for 80 weeks or whatever.
@@Zyinxz aew would kill to have tna 2010 ratings
to be fair, Amateur Excrement Wrestling is doing their best to be Dixie Carter/Hogan/Bischoff TNA Impact 2.0
Bischoff didn't ruin WCW, it was Russo who ruin WCW. WCW was actually kicking WWF's ass back in the Monday Night War.
@@VOANthats cause all the top stars had left and Michaels and taker was by him self basically when stone cold And rock same on the scene wcw was done for
How these two didn't learn their lessons from the dying days of WCW is beyond me
Dixie Carter should of never hired Hogan and his boyfriend Eric bischoff to TNA
@cliffbot638 They wanted to finish what they started in WCW.
But TNA was steps below them and even ECW to extent.
But 2006-2009 was the peak years and we thought back then that they could go up against the WWE.
But now we know the truth.
I'm sure Bischoff and Hogan learned their lessons from WCW. They made money off of WCW, they made money off of TNA, and they went on to make more money after TNA.
Bischoff to this day has supporters who believe he's one of the brighter geniuses of wrestling.
Going head to head on Monday night worked great last time...
@@wingerding you mean over 2 decades ago.
God: "Thou shalt not eat of the fruit of this tree"
Hogan: "Doesn't work for me brother"
Hogan isn't going to put God over
I was literally coming here to say something about doesn’t work for me, but I’m not surprised to already see one 😂
Hulk knocked up Eve
Let me tell you something, dudes, I was about to help Jesus off that cross myself but Mary Magdalene started going into business for herself and called those Roman marks to ruin everything"
@Traxelaxel I laughed WAY too hard here lmfaoo 🤣🤣
Hiring Hogan was the dumbest move they could have made
That doesn’t work for me Brotherrr
Everything Hogan involves himself in turns out to be shit
Hiring Hogan was brilliant. Giving him power was the disaster.
If he were simply an on-air talent and brand ambassador, things could have worked out tremendously.
@@jasoncoward-aintscaredwhile, yes, in theory, I still think it wouldn't have worked
Remember, after his announcement, he had an interview, WITH LARRY KING, and he barely said anything about him being a part of TNA
Hell, I don't remember him plugging the company in any of his media appearances between when he joined, and when he left(unless I missed one)
So, he was useless, even in that side
Nah it was a smart business move
One thing I respect about Dixie Carter is that she knew that she didn't know how to run a wrestling company. Hence, why she hired other people to do it for her? Unfortunately she hired the wrong people.
Bischoff took away the six-sided ring and Hogan makes his daughter head of the Knockouts whilst hiring his friends. Good Lord 🙈
The 6-sided ring being removed was actually the best decision made. TNA wrestlers have said it time and time again.
Not really@@sirsteve8999
@@sirsteve8999it's not about what the wrestlers think, the fans loved it it was unique, without those fans wrestlers are nothing
You try bumping on a ring that has more steel support beams under it because it has more sides and then say that again @kes9684
*TNA was at its peak are during the early to mid 2000s. You had incredible wrestlers like AJ Styles, Samoa Joe, Sting, Kurt Angle, Christopher Daniels and so many others. They made TNA so awesome and then Hogan and Bischoff came along and nearly destroyed the entire company. I honestly consider it a miracle that they’re still in business despite all the dumb mistakes they made over the past decade.*
Scott d'amore is the reason they are still in the business. The man did wonders for TNA. That is why AEW needs to hire him ASAP as soon as his non compete clause ends in feb 2025.
Yeah it unbelievable, they outlived WCW and ECW.
TNA got back on track at the beginning of this year and never looked back.
Just hope they go in more bigger arenas and venues.
@@mrnicemam8523 No, Anthem are the reason it's still going. D'amore takes too much credit.
@@sickpup820 d'amore was the one who set the tone for the future. Plus he was the one who signed talents like Trinity, Ziggler, matt cardinal and Drew Galloway and etc. he deserves all the credit as well.
Late 2000's pre-Hogan/Bischoff was fire as well 🔥
TNA fall was Dixie fault. Instead of building with there young talent she tried to use Hogan to recreate the Monday night wars and failed
Exactly
At least she knew she needed help to run the business. Look at Tony khan on the other hand.
@@mrnicemam8523 I agree Khan is worse
@@iAintSayDat 10-14 years removed from the Monday night wars the fanbase was totally different in that era. Most attitude era people watched UFC instead.
@@iAintSayDatthat’s award answer for the year
Awesome Kong did the right thing.
The “putting WWE out of business” mentality is also why such endeavours fail. They had their own product and it simply needed some better tuning and refinement. It needed to be a proper alternative to WWE, not a WWE killer, because then it would have to out-WWE the actual WWE and that was never going to happen, especially not by the chuckles who failed at accomplishing that with WCW and Turner’s money.
Bischoff's brilliant idea for beating WWE was bringing back all the wrestlers who were already old and washed up 10 years previously, let alone now
That basically was Vince doing In the past years like bringing old people to bury others
The most ridiculous part of all this is how much creative control did Hogan have that he made Dixie Carter hold on to his leg while dragging her across the stage like a child.
Hulk Hogan is Ridiculous
@@constablekennedy7705 I understand not liking your job but he went overboard with that. Your 💯 on point.
@@Coldstone47034 💯
@@Coldstone47034 The fact that Dixie agreed to this is insane
@@Tom_Ate_95 I was embarrassed to watch that segment. Do you think she believed it would actually help her company? Hogan is deadly with 100% creative control.
Don't forget Vince Russo was working behind the scenes of TNA when Hogan and Bischoff was there too. Bischoff, Hogan & Russo = ratings decline & failure. Why people haven't learned anything from the last year of WCW?
And who employed them all? Dixie.
They’re genius’s of the industry
reliving the War from 2000. just 2000.
Russo was killing it in 09 actually maybe his best TV run ever in the business. Had AJ on top and a lot of great things. Never gets credit for what he did do right. He had no real pull in Hogan era. He's said it himself
@@makk3232Russo simps is something I learned from losers like you.
Sounds like Vince paid them to go to TNA to destroy them from the inside lol
Sounds like the conspiracy that Hall and Nash done the same thing in WCW, only this sounds believable 😅
Would not surprise me in the least.
@@madladsands4631it both seems believable
Strange how Hogan always behaves like Neptuneman when he is on the other side
Vince must had made a deal with the Perfects for this.
Same thing they did to WCW.
Hulk Hogan ruined 2 companies
True he don't know how to run a company look at hhh he is cooking in wwe
He’s literally the most over hyped/biggest liar in wrestling history. Possibly the world
I was an avid TNA guy pre Hogan and Bischoff.
I especially loved the X-Division.
The very first episode with Hogan, I knew it was over and was going to sh1t.
The fact they jobbed out Daniels to an out of shape Val Venus literally a week after he was fighting for the world title still irks me to this day.
I tried to stick with it, but it got worse and worse.
It dropped from UK TV and wasn't worth the effort to find it elsewhere.
It did seem that when they came to TNA, some felt it was eventually WCW 2.0
We went from Final Resolution 2009 where two guys who had been in the company from practically the start AJ Styles and Christopher Daniels fought for the World Championship to Genesis 2010 just four weeks later where Daniels lost to Val Venis... Val fucking Venis in 2010, a man who hadn't been relevant since the year 2000 and AJ Styles randomly turned heel to retain the world championship while becoming Mini Naitch Jr v2.0.
The Main Event Mafia era of 08-09 was not great all things considered but it finally lead to old guys stepping aside for the younger guys. Then two months later Hogan and Bischoff show up and just throw all the old guys on the show while putting many of the popular younger acts on the backburner once more.
Jeff Hardy was set to take a two-month break starting October 2010 for his daughter’s birth. To persuade him to postpone, they offered his dream, a heel turn. 💯
Vince russo and being pulled off spike was a nail in their downfall as well
Hogan may have still had some star power in 2008-2009, but he was well past his prime and looking for one final payday.
What bothered me about this is NONE of the wrestlers like Steiner, Jarrett and Sting stood and said….DON’T LET THIS HAPPEN?? Some of the wrestlers stood up to keep Heyman from being hired there. Choice is obvious, they should’ve hired Heyman.
Because Steiner, Jarrett and Sting benefit. Veterans benefit. It's the younger roster who suffer from the bad storylines, horrible roles and burials. Heyman puts on a great product but he was a bad manager and businessman behind the scenes. It's kind of a opposite with Bischoff. And they're not going to complain because it's their heroes and the numbers and paydays did shoot up for a while. Until it all came crashing down and by then it was too late.
What annoys me about bischoff is he blamed everyone else for the demise of WCW and then here he is with a fresh clean slate to do it all over again and he does the same thing again allowing hogan and others to run the asylum as he goes to the well with the same nonsense ideas.
This is the reason why Bitchoff is a trash booker
he actually acknowledged his mistake and he tried to warn tony to not repeat it and Hogan having too much control
@@ayhamahmad2277 bischoff passes the buck too much sorry.
He’s a mastermind of the game thiugh
@@LiClan a mastermind at ruining his best two babyfaces, the finger poke of doom was 4d chess levels of being a mastermind, or is it letting a red and yellow racist run wild on him. Bischoff is a one trick Dog that has failed not one but two companies.
Bringing in Hogan and Bischoff after what they did to WCW is like seeing someone killed by a poisoned drink and telling the barkeep I’LL HAVE WHAT THEY’RE HAVING
Hope they appear on AEW OH WAIT hogan is a racist now
Love how savage you are on this channel "Just to spoil everyone's night here come The Nasty Boys" Brilliant mate! 🤣🤣🤣
His absolute disdain for hogan is hilarious haha
The Nasty Boyz debuting is what made me stop watching TNA
This is a sore subject to me up to this day. TNA never recovered and got their charm back after this, I despise all of the people involved in this catastrophe
yet, that guy gets mass attention on RUclips. Only in this country, a loser like him can have others follow him.
I still don't know how they are alive, I found out a few months ago it was still active
Dixie didn't book. Panda bought in and she was president but Jeff kept booking until the end of 09 I think
Tna had all that talent under their noses and they went with Hogan flair and Kevin Nash lol
Spike TV execs wanted brand names
@@PbearsPeaks sadly yes
Going with flair ain't that bad tho.
Even an old flair could wrestle a mop to a 3 star.
This was a tough thing to watch back then. I was so mad they got rid of the six sided ring .
As a well-known wrestling manager once said, "(Eric) Bischoff is a used-car salesman that got involved with wrestling." That, by itself, speaks volumes.
I can’t believe I stuck with TNA until 2011 🤦🏻
Ouch. sorry you had hopes man.
This is great. Not enough TNA content out there. Too much modern WWE content.
Definitely not enough classic TNA content. 04 - 09 it was better than WWE
What wouldve been a better move for TNA if he was available, and that's hiring Paul Heyman. Yes, Heyman didnt pay his stars on ECW consistently, but he knew how to book a show.
A great reference of this is look at how Smackdown under his watch beat Raw weekly
They did try and get Heyman but he wanted to have some ownership of the company and they said no.
@@Davis84396, what an awful move by TNA at the time
@@RandyBaker87 yeah it was a huge mistake
@Davis84396 no, he wanted to get rid of all the old guys, Dixie said no so he said fuck off then
they had hogan, eric and russo on the same company. its a miracle that TNA not only survived but made a comeback after all that.
Which is why when Bischoff talks about how AEW isn't working, I laugh
Eric Bischoff hates AEW with passion just because he thought Tony would hire him, but they only called him to make an cameo appearance in 2020. He's very salty LOL
@DomSte128 cause Tony knows better. He may be a huge wrestling fan, but he's also a business man, and so is his father. It's amazing how people's egos get them into trouble. Just look at kevin nash
@@Machtimus I feel pity for Kevin Nash because he definitely has cte and he still takes steroids, so his brain doesn't function very much
@@DomSte128 that's exactly why I don't feel bad for him. He knows what he's doing. He would rather blame everything on everyone else instead of owning up to anything. He'll always be a selfish piece of shit to me
Biachoff understates the business. He always thinks outside the box and takes it to the next level
Heartbreaking. 💔
Those were dark times in television history. I still watched it all to the end. As a teenager, I love aj styles, awesome kong and gail kim, they kept that company afloat for a long time...
TNA was naturally evolving before Hulk showed up
Hiring hulk Hogan and Eric bischoff was a terrible move from TNA and the blame is on Dixie Carter too she deserved it
Hogan used to refer to the six sided ring as "the playpen".
@@datacipher I always imagined that the ropes would be quite painful to bounce from, as they were strung so tight from the numerous turnbuckles.
TNA honestly just never had the money to succeed. If they had the tony khan money, then they honestly would have been just as big as WWE.
I agree. You understand it.
Nope. They still would’ve messed up
Money wasn't the problem Its who they hired with the money that was the problem
But AEW is nowhere near WWE and they do have tony khan money...
Money can't buy ratings and good storylines either people wanna watch or they dont....even WWE at this time was going through some bad ratings....I still can't believe they really tried to reform the nWo for the 1000 time, nash and them could barely walk lol
Eric Bischoff trying to relive his WCW glory days and Hogan trying to relive his NWO days from WCW both through TNA which none were successful financially for TNA.
“Promote her awful music career.” 😂
“TNA doesn’t work for me brotha”
HH
Loool
I don't blame Hogan & Bischoff for WCW cause there were other factors but I blame them for TNA .
Eric pissing other people’s money up the wall like in wcw
Hiring old washed up former WWE/WCW wrestlers and placed the younger stars on the back burner. All Dixie's fault
dixie carter is the one who ruined tna by hiring these 2 idiots she clearly didn't watch wcw
I literally stopped watching TNA when Biscoff opened a show with a guitar solo. He and Hogan ruined TNA pretty quick
Hogan ruins literally everything he gets involved with.
Hulk Hogan is like Michael Jordan, phenomenal (arguably the GOAT) talent but terrible at being an executive and running the show.
It was more watchable than this era of TNA to me
Just like what Dixie Carter said about TNA being the biggest wrestling company. Tony Khan said the same thing about AEW. 5 years later and those comments have gotten his company nowhere. These people have learned nothing from trying to beat WWE
TNA was never gonna reach wwe’s level of popularity or even surpass it even without hulk or Eric being there. It was just another niche company like ECW or Roh (really dedicated fan base with some good matches but nothing else to captivate the masses) and now look at TNA or Impact it’s barley hanging on in the industry.
TNA may not ever reach the heights of WWE, but it did manage to survive despite everything and has its niche and loyal fanbase.
TNA just did their largest crowd in 10 years, they're doing good.
Dixie Carter was the main problem as she was the one that was pushing for TNA to be WWE lite and cared about old wrestling big names rather than the best wrestling minds.
Hogan had only ever booked himself and that was with creative control or backstage politicking and Bischoff was still burnt out from WCW and was never a great booker outside of the one big storyline.
It was insane watching this happen back in the day.
So many of us asked ourselves, "What are they thinking?"
Honesty if they just let their roster develop without Hogan and Bischoff they would have done well. Aces and 8s were some of Bubbas best stuff, Perc Angle was the best wrestler in the world at the time, the X division was amazing, AJ Styles was in his prime and a ton of other support style wrestlers. But the egos of Hogan and Bischoff couldn’t be controlled and they were too expensive and ruined it
After seeing him shilling for the 78-year old serial criminal trump, hogan is dead to me.
Trump is cringe but Hogan is a wrestling legend all politics aside
"Her acting was better in 'Hogan Knows Best' and that's NOT a compliment. "
So brutal it hurt MY feelings...
I couldn’t stop laughing!!!
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Hogan, one time in the 80s, was a huge sell. Then he turned into a brand killer.
Hogan selling Dixie that Bishoff will put WWE out of business at that particular time is super wild, not just wild!
Claire Lynch has no connection to Becky Lynch
Jokes on Bischoff I stopped watching TNA BECAUSE they got rid of the six sided ring
TNA became hot garbage when they brought Hogan and Bischoff on. It was shameful. It was awful.
I stopped watching TNA for a few years after this
This is why Tony Khan will never hire Eric Bitchoff. Also, its why Eric bashes AEW every chance he gets. It because Tony Khan wont give him a job and who could blame him. Bitchoff destroyed 2 wrestling companies.
That and the fact that bischoff failed at everything he has done his production company, his run booking smackdown, his podcasts, hell best he can do now is working for Conrad as a mortgage broker lol
If WWF vs. WCW was the "Monday Night War", then WWE vs. TNA was the "Monday Night Shoving Match Between Two Drunk Women".
Hogan makes everything into 💩
Warrior was right about Hogan for the whole 54 minutes
at least we got the TNA Hogan entrance meme a decade later lol
The last time I was this early was my birth
I didn't like super Cena so I started watching TNA in 2007. I instantly noticed the "wrestling" was better. TNA was building stars back then too. Even people who didn't watch TNA knew of Samoa Joe, Aj Styles, Abyss, and ofc Sting\Kurt angle were the established stars. It really was the better show for a short time. Wwe didn't improve. Tna just got way worse after Hogan/Bischoff.
Its amazing how so many people can endlessly fail upwards.
Its like they've done a deal with the devil and they could literally burn a business to the ground and have 6 more desperate to hand them an even bigger contract.
Caucasian people can
Honestly if I was Hogan I'd have done the same I've always said it's a job at the end of the day just like any job and at a job your there to do what's best for yourself and that's it. Think about it at your job are you there to do what helps other people get a promotion, to get others a raise, to put the company before yourself? Hell no your not your there to do what's best for you and make money and that's it
This is not just a regular job. This is job where fans all over the world come and support to be entertained. At least gives those people their moneys worth but hogan didn’t care much about that
Hulk "that doesn't work for me brother" hogan
Hogan went to another company, crashed it then went back to WWE. Jesse Ventura...Union...Vince...Hogan.
He also kind of ruined wcw after saving it’s dying carcass.
My stance on "prime" TNA: The notion that a 6 sided ring would confuse the audience as to whether or not the audience knew they were watching wrestling is literally one of the stupidest things I've ever heard about wrestling. It instantly gave them an identity and became synonymous with their branding. But then again, I didn't have to take bumps in it night in & night out, and I literally can't think of one TNA alumni who DIDN'T say that ring was both a pain in the ass for running the ropes, and yes, taking bumps: Wrestler's safety comes before fan enjoyment. I'm not sure why they didn't take a shot at building a "softer" version of the 6 sided ring, but it's clearly irrelevant by this point. Honestly, January 2010 TNA was sooooooooo awful that it was brilliant. From February on... Their cancer metastesized. I actually have tons of respect for Bischoff. His (deserved) nickname "ATM Eric" aside, nothing can erase the fact that he was at the helm of WCW's most creative & lucrative period and LEGITIMATELY came closer than anyone before or since at killing the pro wrestling version of King Kong. To paraphrase Birdman, put some "respeck" on his name.
The immortal/fortune union with Hardy as the champ ended my interest.
I didn't know any of this .. Awesome video!
I am still Stunned by the original business model for TNA.
How many people actually forked out for a $10 PPV when the vast majority of the talent was unknown to even loyal WCW and ECW fans?
Any new wrestling company out there needs to focus on the talent they already have and picking up new fresh talent. Not some washed up wrestlers from the early eras. Like really? Hogan Nash Pac Hall and Bishoff again? Oh my god.
After what happened with WCW, AND the fact that both had just spent some good years in WWE, Bischoff and Hogan still wanted to try to cripple WWE. Wtf?
Tna was great untill wwe stars were there
Eric Bischoff and Hulk Hogan were to TNA what Vince Russo and Hulk Hogan were to WCW.
the way this dude says ' DUBBUWU DUBBUWU E" fuckin erks me so bad
Hogan is beyond toxic, this guy can't just disappear and live he's life, he's always in the media, interviews and making appearances............. Hulk give it up! your done
Hulkamania will never die...brother
Excellent video, demonstrable passion and insight into events spanning nearly 30 years, keep it up 👏
Apparently bischoff was only there to look over hogan's contract and creative but hogan pushed him to be on screen
Should have kept the 6 sided ring.
that was only the start of the problems.
Those impact ratings are better than the AEW ones!
TNA had their own identity, they were doing they're own thing going well until Hogan and Bischoff came into the company.
Kurt angle said on his podcast hulk hogan and Eric were good for tna
@wwemasta must of been perc angle that was talking lol
TNA was actually great back then
Don't forget that this is also the time that they secretly hired Vince Russo. That for sure ensured that they would fail miserably.
No that was late 2013. He was still running creative until 2012 when he left then Dixie brought him back secretly after Hogan and Bischoff were gone.
TNA was good then old wrestlers came in and ruined it.
The ring change literally changed everything. They’ve never even gone back. That WAS tna back then. We knew it BECAUSE of the ring. They should have updated it and made it safer for wrestlers but they should have never gotten rid of it
the talent they had even the females was just unique.. now they top are former wwe guys all with the belts.not a company with their own talent. Before Eric they had literally they own people..
I was a TNA evangelist in college. I loved the company. I loved how they were leaving WWE behind on RUclips by offering full matches.
I remember being confused and frustrated at how they wouldn't promote their X-Division wrestlers more. I didn't like it at all.
When they switched to a 4 corner ring, I tuned out completely. I honestly didn't know what happened before I watched this video.
Legit just WCW all over again
Perc angle was wilding on TNA 😂
Seeing the pictures of those mostly empty arenas reminds me of a modern promotion...
went to wwe show Not sold out, they said TONIGHT IN SOLD OUT ARENA!! it wasmt whole corners and sides was not close to it. but hey believe haters hating lol AEW shows the crowds and looks packed to me.
2009 was TNA’s best year. Hiring Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff seemed good on paper but changing the ring back to four sides (which was bad enough as it made the company unique) and having them compete with RAW (even with WWE in a mediocre state at the time is still a bigger draw than any other wrestling company) before going back to Thursdays were huge signs that the company was never gonna be the same. By the time they remove the cancer and brought back the six sided ring the damage had been done. It’s amazing how TNA is still alive but I’m glad they’re still thriving.