★ 2021 KTM 890 DUKE R REVIEW ★
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- A review on the awesome ktm 890 duke r
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I absolutely love mine: brilliant power and handling and the brakes perfectly illustrate just how good brakes can be. Best machine I've ever ridden and I started 50 years ago.
Great review. I've just bought one. Turns up next week. I've had 4 KTM's with no issues. 2008 990 superduke R, 2015 1290 superduke R SE, 2019 1290 Superduke R , 2005 990 Superduke and now waiting for the 2021 Duke R with full track and tech pack unlocked. It's only done 890 miles aswell which was spooky!
Love the KTM, just bought this years 390Duke, very inspiring and a natural trainer up to the 890Duke.
Only due to KTM’s reliability issues, I pick the MT09SP every time. I love riding the 890R but wouldn’t want to own one. I had the 790Duke and it suffered oil and coolant leaks so traded it after a year. Ready to Race as much as Ready to Repair
Thanks Stephen for the feedback 😊
KTM = "Known To Malfunction".
but I thought engine quality is top of the pack (based on... Fortnine oil tests?) so the other components fail?
@@bananadane
Fortnine’s test is flawed because it basically shows the cleanliness of the engine assembly line and not the actual quality/reliablity of the bikes themselves.
BMW was at the top in F9’s test if I remember correctly, but statistically they’re one the brands with most warranty repairs per bike.
On the other hand Suzuki was in the lower half, but Suzuki engines are known to be very reliable.
@@bananadane Everything fails!
I absolutley love KTMs, had a 990SD and a 950 SM, but I've heard so many horror stories with the new engines I must admit it's putting me off getting another one.
Had one for four months now can't stop laughing everytime I ride it the torque is the deal breaker for me that instant response is brilliant (unlike my brothers RS765) even at 63yrs old. Rode a new Tuono 660 the other day couldn't believe the difference in the mid range so flat on the Aprilia.
No replacement for displacement
Had mine for 2 years now about 7000 miles without a single problem
Thanks Jake sounds great cheers mark
A bike with looks you either love or loathe.
A big saying here with KTM is ‘ Showroom Friday, workshop Monday’.
To each his own though, there are many loyal KTM owners out there.
Thanks Peter for the comment
Cheers mark
I’ve owned 4 Dukes since 2017. I had to replace a head gasket on the 2017 390 and a battery on the 790. Other than that I have put over 50k miles spread out between the bikes. The head gasket was a major issue across many 390’s, but zero mechanical issues with any of the other. I treat these things like they were intended, very hard and there’s a reason I keep coming back. Also own a Triumph & Yamaha, which I enjoy, but that KTM makes my heart beat a little faster.
@@freebehindbars8654 love my 390 Duke, awesome commuter. My BMW F800GT does the long runs but feels soulless in comparison.
Watched for a 2nd time having just watched your more recent 390 Duke video. This bike was awesome when I test rode it last summer 21, but in the end I bought a nearly new Triumph Speed Triple RS, slightly heavier but in a good way, comfortable, still very fast without being insane, lots of low down torque, fantastic Brembo brakes, but hopefully no reliability issues. It came fully loaded with accessories as well with just under 1k miles on it. Had thought about getting an MT09-SP, but there are just so many of them and prefer the looks of the Speed Triple RS. Seems more premium quality. Just wish KTM had better reliability and customer service and satisfaction. Paying an extra £700 to unlock special features as in Tech pack on an already premium top of their range model is not on.
ATB Mark.
Thanks Alex ...speed triple RS .. awesome 👍...
@@markpulling12 Yeah I like it. Will do for the moment. Still looking at getting a Speedmaster as well. Haven't got an ADV bike, a few years yet ;@). Have you still got your Trophy 1200 and 636? ATB.
@@alexmorgan3435 no both gone Alex
Got a tracer 9 gt now !! Needed something lighter the trophy was getting a bit heavy and the 636 uncomfortable so got the best of all worlds now
Had no problems with my ktms but had lots of issues with a couple of triumphs
I've not ridden this bike but KTM are definitely leading the way with their displays.
Thanks it's quite a looker
Goes well too !!!!
BMW is better.
@@rockinginafreeworld3256 big money wasted.
Leading the way with their displays? KTM displays malfunction so often they're a waste of time.
@@antares7368 *citation required*
Looking forward to your ride on the new Monster .Heard its even better in many ways.Thanks John.
Thanks John ...yes me too !
The entire review you rarely revved the bike higher than 5k RPM. Why? How can you test if a bike has uncomfortable vibrations when you never leave the rev range where practically every bike is smooth.
I would suggest to stay in 2nd or 3rd gear and accelerate from 3k, 4k, 5k, 6k, 7k, and keep the engine at those revs for more than one second to see if the power stays consistent and at what point vibrations begin and how strong they are. Always short-shifting at 5k won't tell me anything about the vibrations. I don't care how smoothly it accelerates from 2k RPM in 6th gear. People who ride naked bikes don't ride them like cruisers or heavy touring bikes.
After watching all the reviews on this bike, yours is the most in depth in terms of real world riding. I want to know what it’s like in a straight line, when there’s not a corner. I want to know the things you explained.
I’ve had a 790 duke and a Gen 3 SDR out for testing and I’ve never ridden this. I have a Tuono V4 factory and your review is making me want one of these lol. The only thing that concerns me is that I get used to power very quickly and then I get bored lol. Not much will touch a KTM for fun on a blast. That high seating position (super moto Ergonomics) really grabs you by the scruff of the neck
Hi well you can't beat your v4 tuono in terms of power but the 890 Duke is still great fun ...you can really use all it's power and rev it out ....it feels lighter than your v4 and just in. straight line it's cruises very well
I'd love one but there are so many good bikes in this class
Cheers mark
Only have the 12cc duke 2018, But! still a great little bike, so I only imagine how awesome it is to ride ( 890 R )
I am really looking into full A1 license this year, so I can get one.
Great! Great!! Review, Lucky you don't do food, or you'd have a lot of over weight people on your hand, due to your awesome reviews.
Many thanks good luck with your license. !! :)
Great review Mark, as always! Clear, honest and full. I haven't owned a KTM, but they've moved into my consciousness thanks to the 790 Duke and Adv when I was looking at fun commuter. Isn't the 790 Duke known as "The Scalpel"?
I have to admit I'm disappointed by KTM and the direction they're going in with the various "packs". Why, when the 790 platform comes loaded out of the box with the whole electronics package (the tech pack), are we now having to spend another £700-800 to get these unlocked?! It's clearly no longer expensive to develop nor include this technology so why are we paying a premium for what other manufacturers are beginning to include as standard, including KTM themselves with the 790?!
Tbh, for £12k, once I'd paid for the optional packs on the 890, I'd buy a MV Dragster (secondhand) with its tech as standard and considerably better looks!
Many thanks ...yes I'd rather ktm just have everything on the bikes unlocked rather than paying for the "packs" cheers mark
And spend lots of time with the breakdown truck
Well I also had KTM 1290 r , 20 plate new model...After delivery as new, on my evening trip as mileage just 50 miles on clock, MALFUNCTION CAME< CHECK ENGINE
Hi Mark, How was the reliability on your duke 790? I have a duke 390 & looking to upgrade, my bike has been reliable & no problems at all. I’m really interested in the 890r but KTM reliability problems is a bit of a concern. I also like the MT-09 or Street Triple RS. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Cheers
@@SM-dg8do hi my 790 was absolutely perfect...I had it remapped by j 33 and I preferred it to my friends 890 r
Cheers mark
Taking my test soon. I will get a 390 duke first, but I aspire to one of these. Very impressive bike. Great review.
Thanks David one of the best A2 bikes .. great fun 😊the 890 is a phenomenal weapon
@@markpulling12 do you think the 890 is a bit of a big jump from a 390? I live in North Yorkshire. Great twisty roads.
Great review mark , I’m desperate to make this my next bike , I’m going for a test ride on the hornet at crescent Honda next Saturday 17th , yes the same hornet you tested 🤣spoke to Steve at crescent and he tells me that they’ll be selling it soon but because of the extras it will be over £7000 but I’ve set my heart on the duke , I’m coming from a Honda adv 350 bought from cresent new in March, do you think the R is too much and I should be looking at the standard 890 duke 🤔top review again by the way, I like your reviews as I’m also 5ft 7” 😂👍
The 890 R isn't that much more powerful than the standard 890 ...I've got the 790 which is brilliant as well... cheers mark
Hi Mark . Love yer reviews. A review and your thoughts on the suzuki katana would be appreciated 🙂.
Duke R Duke R , so good you reviewed it twice. Lovely bike, would be wasted on me.
Thanks ....yes what an awesome bike
Cheers mark
This bike looks fun. I never trusted ktm’s to be reliable. Last year a bought a 300xcw. It’s been abused by me n still runs amazing.
Hi Mark, will you or can you review the KTM Duke 990 at some point soon as its the next logical step up for those that have a 790 or 890 Duke and maybe thinking of making the change. This video was the catalyst to me buying my 890 Duke GP after watching this video, i took a test ride and bought the bike.
Hi Neil yes definitely 😁
Destination ktm has just opened up in dorset I'll pop over there at some point
Cheers mark
How do you find the low rpm ride quality? I have a 690 and want to upgrade, but the way this engine lurtches and lugs around is a real turn off to an otherwise phenominal motorcycle.
Does the 890 run in a similar fashion or is it smooth?
Hi very good low rpm quality on the 890 ...not so good on the 690 which needs a booster plug or remap to smooth out low rpm running
Cheers mark
I'm getting the Duke 890 R 2022 for my very first bike.
Brilliant bike! Looks like a blast.
You do make good reviews! Thank you! This bike...well, probably the one without an R, will soon be in my garage. I hope! Working on it...oops, come to think of something! I haven't tested one yet! Well, that's the easy bit!
Again, thank you for thorough reviews.
Many thanks John these are awesome machines....also check out the 790 version it's great also
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Now that's an interesting thought! I have a 690 now and I like it alot! But somehow an "upgrade" feels right. Comparing the two, 790 and 890, is the 890 just more of the 790? Or is it that much better so it's a different bike?
Cheers! John
@@johnDukemaster hi John I have a 790 duke remapped and it's 95 % as fast as my mates 890 r plus more comfortable as a general road bike ...they are very good option plus cheaper.... obviously the 890 r has much higher spec but the 790 is still amazing to ride
Best wishes mark
@@markpulling12 Thank you Mark! Yes, I was thinking of going down that route. Remap or pc5 with a good exhaust/airintake. As I did on my 690. Thank you again, you're most helpful!
Was a toss up between this bike and MT-09 and decided on Yamaha for reliability. Now to wait till it arrives as they are all sold out at the moment /=
So you've got to pay another 600 odd quid to be able to use all the tech options that are already built into the electronics? What a ripoff, KTM can poke that where the sun doesn't shine!
I also hear that KTM do not warranty any of the electrical systems on the bike and that's from new!
They have to be the most shady motorcycle manufacturer out there!
It looks sharp!! What do you think which bike is better this one or the street triple rs
Hi Amit I've not ridden the street triple RS . I've ridden the older 675 street triple and it's brilliant
This though is a fantastic bike ,engine handling and brakes are first class :)
Ok thanks for the fast reply
The one that spends least time getting repaired due to design/manufacture defects. That’ll be the Triumph then!
@@MichaelWilliams-jc2ui You sound like every guy I talked when I used to ride a Moto Guzzi. "I bet that breaks all the time!" Nope. Next question?
My brother owns a 765rs so here's my thoughts. Build quality Triumph comfort Triumph top end Triumph gearbox Triumph so why does he always want to swap rides with my 890r one word FUN FUN FUN thanks mostly to the instant torque. Check out 44 theeths comparison between the two.
Beautiful bike.
The camera angle is just fine; i prefer to look at the dash.
Many thanks :)
Not made of money so I probably should’ve bought the new mt09 instead of my 890r. That said I absolutely love this bike! But reliability will always be a concern. We all know the good things about this scalpel but what you don’t hear is it can get pretty hot. The Quick shifter can be an issue on some bikes.. my bike! Although that can be sorted out down the road. But the most aggravating is 1000 miles in my chain/main sprocket area started developing a very annoying chirping/squeaking sound which has me cleaning it every 150 miles to remedy the noise. I’m fighting the dealer over it before the warranty is up, they’re saying more chain maintenance I think there’s a deeper issue. Although I hope not. The Michlin power cup 2 are exceptional, but dangerous in the wet and temperatures below 40 Fahrenheit. Also the rubber is extremely soft and punctures easily. That’s not really a problem though, just buy different tires. Conclusion, I’m an idiot and it’s a whole lot of fun! Shop wise
Thanks .... great bike ...hope it all goes well
Reliability only exists so people with boring bikes have something to brag about.
"Wah wah wah, my MT09 is dead reliable!" Always beckons the question "That bad to ride?" from me.
Hey Duke I have exactly the same issue with the front sprocket squeal once some shit gets in there so I bought a open type cover on Ali barber makes it much easier to keep clean. Love this bike though so much fun to ride and I've tried and had almost everything from Harleys to sport bikes and that's coming from an old aged pensioner! 😀
@@neilmckenzie4692 thank you for the reply. Yeah I do love, yes I said “LOVE” my 890r. Ok ok seriously though this bike really is so much fun to ride. Have you had any other problems with your 890r? Have you noticed any excessive heat?
@@dukiemoto8676 It definitely keeps your legs warm especially now it's summer down here in Aus but even if I've been stuck in a bit of traffic on a hot day (30c plus) I've never seen the temp gauge go above 3.
Hi Mark
I was so hoping you would review this bike, I still have my zx6 like you do... I still love is looks and have no complaints it's a great bike but coming up to 3 years ownership in February, would you swap yours for an 890r ???
Hi Glen I sold my 636 a few months ago ...wanted something more upright and comfortable but still powerful and fun so got a tracer 9 gt now :):) but the ninja was brilliant ,yes I think this would be a good choice over the ninja it's just as exciting,even lighter and amazing handling and brakes :)
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 thanks for the reply Mark, I'm planning on changing bike next spring and the 890r has very good reviews although I'm still not 100% sold on the looks. Thanks for all the bike reviews you do 👍
@@glenwhyte2555 the 890 will give all the thrills of the 636 also check out the mt09sp cheers glen
@@glenwhyte2555 Oh, the Duke is super ugly.
I'm not sure I'd recommend putting "looks" anywhere in the list when considering a new machine, but yeah - dead ugly. Amazing more attractive than the Yamaha stuff. So ..... best of the worst?
@@padrescout why the hell not ?
You have to also like the look of your bike ??
Re-uploaded?
Yep had a freezing issue with the vid at 13 mins after an edit ? ?
Cheers mark
Yes ....long story I said it had a one year warranty for the R models which is in black and white on the website ....holeshot confirmed it is definitely two years on the R models....double checked with ktm HQ uk and they said yes it's 100% a website typo and they will get ktm Austria to correct it ...they were VERY grateful for me bringing this to their attention
I then use RUclips EDITOR to cut out the bit of me saying " one year warranty " then this morning I get like five comments that the video has frozen at 13 mins . .I checked it and Yes it had .. hence the reupload
Cheers mark
Deja Vu. Still a nice bike the second time. So I guess I hat means I've given it two thumbs up .
@@MrLou8888 haha thanks for the two thumbs ups!!
Great review
Many thanks
890 just needs a fuel ⛽ tank and hopefully its reliable !!
I want this bike so bad but I have no clue on the reliability?
They are generally reliable just a few niggles here and there ...most owners love them cheers mark
Are you getting the 890r?
@@Jbc909 hi Justin sadly no ...but would love one
Had mine for 4mnths now had a slight oil leak from the front sprocket seal otherwise after 7000ks of weekend thrashings it hasn't missed a beat and I can't think of anything that would give me the same amount of fun to ride week after week. Justin consider what sought of riding you do 90% of the time if its long cruisey types of rides with not much emphasis on cornering then maybe not the 890r if it's shorter faster bends and fun stuff like that get the 890r you'll have a ball. Watch the MCN review that will give you a good idea.
@@neilmckenzie4692 I'm stuck in between the 890r and 790 it's my first bike
I still love my Yammie X Max 300
🥇❤️🇦🇺💪🏼
cheers stevie :)
Afraid I don't get the look of KTMs all that orange, and the graphics on the plastic, look rather tacky, and old fashioned. And yes that headlight is very ugly, seems to be a KTM thing.
Thanks for the comment James
That headlight sold it to me.... gorgeous!!
Would you take this or the mt09 sp?
Hi Paul ....heart says ktm.... incredible engine , handling and brakes an incredible ride experience
Sensible head says mt09sp
Absolutely 50/50 for me ...I'd probably have to ride both again and just buy the one which I find the most involving which would probably be the ktm !
Cheers mark
@@markpulling12 Couldn't agree more Mark Head would say Yamaha heart KTM. I had the same thoughts when trying to decide between the 765rs and the 890r which one did I enjoy riding the most and wouldn't get bored with the quickest so I went with the KTM and don't regret it one for one moment.
Deja vu....
Yes had to re upload it Keith
@@markpulling12 You can't have too much of a good thing! 😉
That exhaust is shocking.
Probably the worse standard can I've seen
Not great is it 🙂
Looks quite OK but this head lamp is just ugly as hell
Haha yes looks like an insect :)
@@markpulling12 😃
@@markpulling12 it still looks far better than that terrible setup on the triumph street triple.