Magic & Yugioh Player Tries To Guess Which HS Card is Better

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  • @enochzhen7133
    @enochzhen7133 Месяц назад +1797

    I wish in future videos like this they could be rating the cards in the same chat. It would be so fun to watch them debating and even gaslighting each other over a card.

    • @Rarran
      @Rarran  Месяц назад +1614

      actually doing this later this week

    • @MeritumYT
      @MeritumYT Месяц назад +227

      Based ​@@Rarran

    • @iCresto
      @iCresto Месяц назад +121

      @@Rarran voting for a CGB vs Voxy card review match!

    • @Elround25
      @Elround25 Месяц назад +4

      This is actually harder to edit

    • @whatevernotmatter18347
      @whatevernotmatter18347 Месяц назад +13

      ​@@Rarranman, you're ahead of the curve, keep up the good content, hope you're having a nice day

  • @covertgoblue
    @covertgoblue Месяц назад +783

    I still don’t know who won yet…time to watch!

    • @jackcois6077
      @jackcois6077 Месяц назад +28

      the undisputed champion

    • @covertgoblue
      @covertgoblue Месяц назад +193

      Spoiler…..
      NEVER DIDNT HAVE IT 💙

    • @JD-wu5pf
      @JD-wu5pf Месяц назад +20

      Resisting the siren's call of Raid the Sky Temple was such a goated move.

    • @baermane
      @baermane Месяц назад +13

      Gotta say cvg my face lights up every time I see you and rarran collab. You seem like such a a dope guy to talk to

    • @09gh
      @09gh Месяц назад +3

      When are you going to play Hearthstone? It'd be a fun video to watch for sure!

  • @lazysn1per
    @lazysn1per Месяц назад +652

    Stevie is fucking hilarious. "Can you attack locations? Like drop a pipebomb in there."

    • @fredwin
      @fredwin Месяц назад +46

      Oops, all spells.

    • @mgloriousone9823
      @mgloriousone9823 Месяц назад +8

      Meanwhile the Irish: "Technically yes"

    • @kilan4978
      @kilan4978 Месяц назад +7

      Pretty sure the location destroyer is called like Demolition Squad or some shit and it literally throws a pipebomb at the locations

    • @wraith.ferron
      @wraith.ferron Месяц назад +4

      ​@fredwin which is the name of a Magic deck, weirdly enough.

    • @rever6612
      @rever6612 Месяц назад

      I watch most of his channel videos and I have zero interest in YuGiOh. The guy hilarious sometimes.

  • @TheBiomedZed
    @TheBiomedZed Месяц назад +805

    Just wanted to show my appreciation for what I assume was an intentional editing choice: Having one person reading out one card, then switch to the other person reading out the other is such a small but smooth way of presenting this concept. I see you RR.

    • @anchan7851
      @anchan7851 Месяц назад +21

      Yeah, I don't usually comment on any videos at all but came here just to say that editing in this video was on god damn point. Few times throughout this video I was like "oh hell yea, this is pleasant to watch". Great stuff man :)

    • @krim3422
      @krim3422 Месяц назад +7

      David is the 🐐

    • @EPICish8
      @EPICish8 Месяц назад +4

      If they do this style of video in the future Rarran has to wear the same shirt. There would be a nice editing opportunity where they could show both of the contestants video and go "you are correct ___" and then slide the incorrect person off the screen.

  • @Rarran
    @Rarran  Месяц назад +675

    This was recorded before the most recent patch!
    Please go check out both guests!

    • @TheLegend-cf8cs
      @TheLegend-cf8cs Месяц назад +9

      Hey rarran just a suggestion, maybe making the title some kind of magic vs yugioh skill or something could make the title seem more interestimg

    • @Ovijit001
      @Ovijit001 Месяц назад

      Congratulations on 200k

    • @josiahkrodel4656
      @josiahkrodel4656 Месяц назад

      "What's the Opposite Of Leprosy?"
      Cancer I think
      Leprosy makes stuff fall off
      And cancer makes things grow uncontrolably

    • @jannisan
      @jannisan Месяц назад +1

      ayyy 200k!

    • @joelwong8662
      @joelwong8662 Месяц назад

      Congrats on 200K!!

  • @ysqure3
    @ysqure3 Месяц назад +181

    13:23 "This is an 8-mana 20/20. With 4 deathrattles. You can't convince me otherwise." It's actually an 8-mana 25/25! Spicy.

  • @MrPersona94
    @MrPersona94 Месяц назад +697

    "Squire, attend me".
    "Ready sir".
    Truly the GOAT of arena

    • @gugusdada5148
      @gugusdada5148 Месяц назад +56

      I haven't played HS in like a decade but reading that line I immeadiately heard the squires squicky voice, damn

    • @Monjijii
      @Monjijii Месяц назад +20

      I believe he would go 12-0 in classic arena if he knows.

    • @Gianluciniho
      @Gianluciniho Месяц назад +9

      Dont forget the lisp "Ready Thir"

    • @adriadelafuente3648
      @adriadelafuente3648 Месяц назад

      YOU are the GOAT of arena

    • @DeutscherDummer
      @DeutscherDummer Месяц назад

      Those two are great stats for the cost

  • @nogai2296
    @nogai2296 Месяц назад +156

    I think that magtheradon was a little unfair because when you never actually run magtheradon, you just get it off of window shopper and not out of your deck, and dr boom and the mech package are at least somewhat playable

    • @rasmusforchhammer9557
      @rasmusforchhammer9557 Месяц назад +30

      Agreed, Magtheridon isn't a better card on its own.

    • @stephenw5488
      @stephenw5488 Месяц назад +16

      Exactly, esp now with Boom & Zilliax as a combo
      Magtheridon is almost never played IN the deck, and even tho it’s been played a ton its always played from 3 mana, or 1 mana bc of window shopper

    • @zacdredge3859
      @zacdredge3859 Месяц назад +3

      @@rasmusforchhammer9557Boom literally is just a below curve stat block on its own by that standard...

    • @glimmerkepu
      @glimmerkepu Месяц назад +9

      @@rasmusforchhammer9557 I think the idea is that they're choosing the best card with some context provided by Rarran, so they do have to think about interactions, mechanics, class identity, etc. Not just the card's powerlevel in a vacuum.

    • @juliandacosta6841
      @juliandacosta6841 Месяц назад

      I had a bot play it against me, along with window shopper and cover artist

  • @elbardo_lux
    @elbardo_lux Месяц назад +213

    magtheridon vs inventor boom is tricky, because nobody is putting magtheridon in their decks while there's a variant of highlander warrior that does play boom. But on the other hand you see a lot of magtheridons created by.

    • @dssc8691
      @dssc8691 Месяц назад +80

      If a card is only good when randomly discovered, and sucks when you actually put the card in your deck, then the card sucks. Dr Boom is definitely the better card right now, while before patch neither card were played at all.

    • @loganparry2676
      @loganparry2676 Месяц назад

      Was literally going to comment this

    • @tomekrodzinka
      @tomekrodzinka Месяц назад +20

      @@dssc8691but if there was no maghteridon, demon hunter wouldn’t be a tier one deck, because you only run window shopper with hopes of hitting him

    • @TwizzElishus
      @TwizzElishus Месяц назад +12

      @@tomekrodzinka I still think it's a justified and pretty objective way of looking at the card though. If you wouldn't put the card in your deck, then it's a bad card.

    • @Axel3xA
      @Axel3xA Месяц назад +8

      @@tomekrodzinka objection was not good enough to be hard run in decks yet it was good when it's discovered. i.e. it's not good enough to be hard run but it's good as a 31st card

  • @samueldavidbatistaruiz7510
    @samueldavidbatistaruiz7510 Месяц назад +135

    I love cgb and rarran interaction. They feel like bros that love competition a little to much but still appreciating each others.

  • @danikrimm99
    @danikrimm99 Месяц назад +126

    Some fun background info: "oops all spells" is an actual deck archetype in MTG. The premise of the deck is that you mill cards until you hit a land, but as you don't have lands in your deck, you mill your whole deck ("oops"). You then win in various ways by decking out

    • @lucjanl1262
      @lucjanl1262 Месяц назад +9

      How tf you play cards if you have no lands and thus no mana to play cards? Are all cards 0 mana or do you run something like black lotus or (smth)?

    • @liorramati265
      @liorramati265 Месяц назад +35

      It depends on the format - in some formats you use fast mana (things like lotus petal and simian spirit guide. Similar to lotus but way less busted) to get 4 mana on the one turn you go off, and then since you win that turn, it doesn't matter that you don't have any more mana for later. And in other formats you use MDFCs, double sided cards with a spell on the front side (which is what the mill spells see when they check to see what they milled) and a land on the backside (which you can play from hand, although they all come in to play tapped or cost tons of life)
      There also used to be a version of the deck (it might still exist? Not sure) that played a very minimal number of lands (maybe even just 1?), and a bunch of spells that let you tutor it for free under specific conditions the deck was constructed to always meet

    • @joaquintristan4373
      @joaquintristan4373 Месяц назад +1

      Nah every oops all spells deck that wins does it with charbelcher

    • @Duall8
      @Duall8 Месяц назад

      @@joaquintristan4373 Legacy Oops all Spells uses Dread Return + Thassa's Oracle to win

    • @adrianshrubowich6144
      @adrianshrubowich6144 Месяц назад +3

      I actually run a commander deck that uses Goblin Charbelcher and the dual sided lands to one shot players, a ton of fun but I gotta save it for special occasions or else my friend group would disown me.

  • @cshin4219
    @cshin4219 Месяц назад +106

    CGB : Showed Rarran Approach of the Second Sun
    Rarran : Hit back with Hearthstone’s Approach of the Second Sun

    • @Reign274
      @Reign274 Месяц назад

      Was thinking this too

    • @dyciefisk2535
      @dyciefisk2535 Месяц назад

      One thing I was thinking, don't you also need a way to absorb taking 15 fatigue damage?
      Or can the deck just do that?

    • @stefanlish
      @stefanlish Месяц назад +2

      @@dyciefisk2535 there is a harp weapon that neglects damage you take on your own turn (even heals you), there is symphony of sins that fills your deck with 5 cards, and zilliax (a minion) can shuffle back into your deck, so yeah with this deck you never take fatigue damage or once after you play wheel of death

  • @Shield_OW
    @Shield_OW Месяц назад +72

    31:48 oger mentioned 🗣️🗣️ we getting good stats for cost with this one 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @joshprice4855
    @joshprice4855 Месяц назад +93

    I loved this.
    You got to see how each persons preferred game affected their evaluations
    Stevie, a yugioh player, leans toward cards that offer the decisive moment. Yugioh is a fast game where one misplay or point of interaction can literally make or break the game for you. Things that offer a singular point of "if this high rolls I just win." Makes sense. I know he called it a gambling addiction but I think it makes perfect sense.
    On the other hand CGB is a mtg player. That game is a lot slower and you're not guaranteed resources. It makes a lot of sense that he'd pick a lot more of the "this thing is consistent. I know I'm getting x things every time I play it." That tracks, the best cards in magic are ones that always perform well even if their ceiling isnt high.
    Hearthstone is probably more like magic than yugioh so CGB getting the turnaround made a lot of sense to me.
    That said both guys did great!

    • @hugomendoza5665
      @hugomendoza5665 Месяц назад +2

      Great analysis I didn’t think about it like that

    • @hxr717
      @hxr717 Месяц назад +9

      Yeah, I'm pretty sure în magic wheel of death would prolly be really good, whereas in yugioh it wouldn't ever see the light of day, as almost no alt win condition that's not exodia ever did

    • @nicholaslu9799
      @nicholaslu9799 Месяц назад +1

      @@hxr717exodia never saw play except in 0 ban yugioh as well lol. All the cards that made it playable such as pot of greed were banned.

    • @hxr717
      @hxr717 Месяц назад +1

      @@nicholaslu9799 I'm pretty sure someone topped or won a regional once with a royal library exodia deck, so if I didn't mention it, I would get torn a new one

    • @juliandacosta6841
      @juliandacosta6841 Месяц назад +4

      I'm honestly super surprised that cgb didn't go for cards like sif and scrap imp. He's done so well in the other videos.
      Honestly the fact that both of them didn't pick sif immediately is kind of baffling, both yugioh and mtg have burn decks and at least stevie knows what malygos is.

  • @hanthony
    @hanthony Месяц назад +41

    Love the comparison between two cards instead of just rating in a vacuum, makes it a lot less nebulous.

  • @sadtimetodie1134
    @sadtimetodie1134 Месяц назад +200

    SHADOW WIZARD MONEY GANG
    WE LOVE CASTING SPELLS

  • @H0C0X
    @H0C0X Месяц назад +89

    I was thinking between Kelthuzad and Vectus immediately when the cards popped up, because technically kelthuzad saw more play, but its extremely close because neither saw play, and vectus just never had any good deathrattle minions printed with him. He's have been really good in many future metas.
    But for 2 whole years, kelthuzad saw play in 1 deck, but vectus saw play in zero, so i guess kel wins.

    • @tuesti7c
      @tuesti7c Месяц назад +16

      I dont remember ever seeing kelthuzad see play. I do remember vectus in every curse deck

    • @johannesyri
      @johannesyri Месяц назад +11

      ​@@tuesti7c unless you mean a different deck than abyssal curse warlock, youre thinking of lady darkvein who has a similar effect, not vectus
      If there was a different curse deck i dont recall, please enlighten me

    • @H0C0X
      @H0C0X Месяц назад +9

      Vectus rotated out before curses rotated in. Also, there aren't any deathrattles that give curses.

    • @impkiller5932
      @impkiller5932 Месяц назад

      ​@@H0C0Xmaybe he was thinking about plagues or lady Darkdumb 2/1 minions?

    • @drewpeacock9087
      @drewpeacock9087 Месяц назад +1

      I played both in Control Warrior :)

  • @Mullen_Malla
    @Mullen_Malla Месяц назад +111

    covertgoblue and Stevie in one Video? Daddy Rarran blessing us today!

  • @riversduvall1176
    @riversduvall1176 Месяц назад +66

    Stevie, Rarran and Covert come together, who can have the most severe card gamer brainrot?

    • @livedandletdie
      @livedandletdie Месяц назад +2

      Does it matter who has the most? Because I'm pretty certain, that their brainrot compounds when they're together.

  • @mikergage
    @mikergage Месяц назад +28

    Now you’re just drawing 3/2 leper gnomes! 😂

  • @pandagames3193
    @pandagames3193 Месяц назад +10

    Rarran there´s actually a mistake in this video regarding the Magtheridon part: That card is not an 8 mana 12/12, it´s a 3 mana 6/5!

  • @hxr717
    @hxr717 Месяц назад +12

    I love how you released this video just as a Dr boom warrior list is sweeping through top 10k legend lol

  • @amethonys2798
    @amethonys2798 Месяц назад +30

    Elise Badlands Savior's issue is the same issue that a lot of "board in box" cards historically have: they come out so unbelievably late it doesn't matter since any control deck is clearing you anyway.
    This is ESPECIALLY true when they are printed in "non-minion focused" classes like Mage/Priest where that Brawl has been burning a hole in the opponent's hand for 6 turns now anyway and you finally gave them a use for it. Elise is only marginally better than the one mage card from Kobolds or whatever that filled a board with 5/5 vanillas if you played big spells and that card was ass 6 or however many years ago for the same reason.

    • @Lucama221
      @Lucama221 Месяц назад

      Yeah the only decent one ever was the cloning gallery from Boomsday.

    • @juliandacosta6841
      @juliandacosta6841 Месяц назад +2

      I don't think priest even had a lot of good deathrattles, you were just kind of hoping to hit amanthul. It was just a huge restriction to not have duplicates and not have minions that are vanilla when summoned.

    • @androkguz
      @androkguz 29 дней назад

      I think you guys should have seen what chump did with Elise. That card is nasty and hearthstone players are simply losing creativity

    • @amethonys2798
      @amethonys2798 29 дней назад

      @androkguz I wouldn't take Chump's decks for much of anything. I watch all his videos and half of the time he doesn't even say the winrate of the deck (gee I wonder why) and the other half is saying it is barely over 50% while he plays in 12k+ legend.

  • @GumshoeClassic
    @GumshoeClassic Месяц назад +56

    Very proud of CGB for not having an Oko-induced allergic reaction to "turn things into 3/3s" like I did.

    • @gardian06_85
      @gardian06_85 Месяц назад +8

      Great hall at least let them keep the text.
      Oko: said "target thing is now, mediocre stat, textless, trash"

    • @adamxue6096
      @adamxue6096 Месяц назад +1

      The difference is in how Oko transforms the card into an ability-less 3/3
      Great Hall doesn't make a taunt divine shield reborn thing lose any of its more defining qualities
      The issue lies in the fact that you need to always spend 1 more resource to actually get rid of the threat, unless the threat literally is nothing but stats, only then is Great Hall actually a whole removal in itself.
      If it was Oko, it would basically be 2 mana 3 times use Polymorph and I think people would absolutely play it

    • @GumshoeClassic
      @GumshoeClassic Месяц назад

      @@adamxue6096 Of course Oko is way better, no question asked. I know how he works and what makes him good, experienced it first-hand.
      It's just that "transform into 3/3" immediately reminds me of Oko and my hatred for that damn piece of cardboard.

    • @adamxue6096
      @adamxue6096 Месяц назад

      @@GumshoeClassic
      Sadly I didn't play when he was around, it's just anyone who has ever seen Oko probably has 3/3 vietnam war flashbacks

  • @graemetang4173
    @graemetang4173 Месяц назад +8

    2:10 Grew up on Norse Mythology bedtime stories. This take wounded me.

    • @jaeusa160
      @jaeusa160 Месяц назад +8

      To defend Stevie a bit though, the other Norse named Titans did get titles after their names. Tyr and Sif being shafted was rude.

  • @codybijeaux8804
    @codybijeaux8804 Месяц назад +72

    In my opinion, the reason why The Great Hall was never really played was because control paladin really wasn't a deck at the time. Paladin was, and still is, all aggro, and aggro doesn't want to play a 2-mana do nothing. If control paladin was a thing, The Great Hall would have seen more play.

    • @wgcdrelliot8989
      @wgcdrelliot8989 Месяц назад +17

      Control highlander paladin was a thing in wild. One of the best decks in fact. I easily got legend with it. And yes i had great hall in the deck. Even though it was probably the weekest card

    • @Aang139
      @Aang139 Месяц назад

      I also wonder what it's arena play stats were (if arena still exists). Great hall does seem great for control, but also seems great for arena where your opponents ability to play around nerfing stats is more limited. Like it reminds me of a handful of stat modifying cards you would see play in mtg draft, but never in constructed.

    • @joshg2188
      @joshg2188 Месяц назад +4

      We have definitely had slower Paladin decks, the card is just trash.

    • @Cuestrupaster
      @Cuestrupaster Месяц назад +1

      Agree, but still it doesn't make the answer, wrong since the Great Hall wasn't played in the meta...

    • @N12015
      @N12015 Месяц назад

      I'm sure Paladin had control back in the trial miniset. It did noy used the card because there are better removal.

  • @Axel3xA
    @Axel3xA Месяц назад +7

    Magtheridon is actually the bad card. It's never hard run in a deck, the only way it gets played is when you cheat it out for 1/3 mana. Boom does really well in a brann deck

    • @ChungusGlizzy
      @ChungusGlizzy Месяц назад

      in what world are you going to be able to stick a bran on board while also having 2 high value mechs already die early in the game it requires too much setup for only meh value

    • @Staklihen
      @Staklihen Месяц назад +1

      @@ChungusGlizzy The actual Brann in Warrior doesn't need to stick on board.

    • @Axel3xA
      @Axel3xA Месяц назад

      @@ChungusGlizzyZilliax

    • @Axel3xA
      @Axel3xA Месяц назад

      @@Staklihen The point is Boom is run in some warrior decks while magtheradon is not run in any Dh deck

  • @xBrokenMirror2010x
    @xBrokenMirror2010x Месяц назад +8

    Vectus is niche playable in Wild Aggro because Egg Deathrattles are really strong, and 5 mana summon two 1/1 eggs is good. The decks aren't great, but its playable.
    I cannot imagine a single scenario in which I want to add a 5 mana premium to a removal to get the thing I'm removing. It would just sit in your hand doing nothing until you die. At least you can hardplay vectus as a 5 mana 6/6

    • @sandwichgamer1075
      @sandwichgamer1075 Месяц назад

      true

    • @MatsNorway
      @MatsNorway Месяц назад +1

      Vectus plays faster as as it comboes with past plays not current turn. It can be AoE deathrattle and it can be armor, it can be carddraw and Face. Much more flexible. Can be played after a card draw as well versus top decking headmaster and then sit and wait to get the mana again.

    • @iuricunhamurakami8261
      @iuricunhamurakami8261 Месяц назад

      Kelthuzad + 10 mana deal 5 to everything from warrior
      you steal their board!

  • @Salty.Lightning
    @Salty.Lightning Месяц назад +2

    Man I love these videos, and I think this competition format really improved it! Well structured, well edited, and Rarran has great chemistry with both guests. Really hope you can make more of these!

  • @piotreus5631
    @piotreus5631 Месяц назад +29

    the thing with unseal the vault was:
    you summon minions, give them 2 attack
    if enemy can't answer this you win the game because you give them 2 attack again and then attack
    if enemy wastes their turn to clear the board you do this again
    it was so disgusting

    • @Miranda17137
      @Miranda17137 Месяц назад +4

      was gonna say, it forces the enemy to clear or die, and if they're clearing they're not killing you

    • @impkiller5932
      @impkiller5932 Месяц назад +3

      ​@@Miranda17137i never even seen that quest completed, I was just DESTROYING this losers with rogue.

    • @juliandacosta6841
      @juliandacosta6841 Месяц назад +1

      Quest was not a good deck, but quest rewards almost always win games.
      I think 20 was a bit too much, but the deck was still around tier 3 probably

    • @lukasschwarz7613
      @lukasschwarz7613 Месяц назад +2

      Actually even without a board it was nasty because at the time unleash the hounds existed. I got legend with the deck and won so many clutches just because the enemy played a lot of minions^^'

  • @3snoW_
    @3snoW_ Месяц назад +23

    Between Vectus an KT, i feel like people tried to use Vectus in a lot of decks and it never really worked. On the other hand, people tried to use KT in a lot of decks and it worked exactly once. I feel like apart from that one deck, Vectus is the better card. But that one deck did exist so KT wins.

    • @amethonys2798
      @amethonys2798 Месяц назад +2

      Vectus' issue in standard was mediocre at best deathrattles (pretty much all value based like shuffling more primes) and the fact the whelps he summoned didn't have rush or taunt.
      You'd play him on 5 (hopefully), your opponent ignores them, you trade them off on 6, and then on turn SEVEN you can finally do something with anything that pops out of the whelps.

    • @andychiu860311
      @andychiu860311 Месяц назад

      I remember vectus being playable but I can’t recall which deck it was

    • @vaspeter2600
      @vaspeter2600 Месяц назад +2

      It was probably a pretty skill-intensive deck, but I remember Kibler using Vectus in a warlock deck revolving around Envoy Rustwix (his "prime gaming" warlock deck)

    • @DDG98
      @DDG98 Месяц назад

      Wasn't the best thing ever but vectus was part of the stall/fatigue priest control deck at the time for getting more lifesteal taunt bois

  • @zyst6
    @zyst6 Месяц назад +7

    Dude such a sick video, I love it! If you ever do something like this again, I would love it if you had kept score at the end of each segment. To keep track of who’s doing better.

  • @triceratops1260
    @triceratops1260 Месяц назад +22

    "what if it had overload 2" lmaoo that 4 mana 7/7 reference

  • @mamakrida5546
    @mamakrida5546 Месяц назад +11

    rarran, but magtheridon as a 8 mana 12/12 is maybe more unplayable than boom?
    Like imagine a warrior deck where you could discover 16 inventor booms for 3 mana....

    • @amethonys2798
      @amethonys2798 Месяц назад

      Tbf Magtheridon at 8 mana is unplayable. You arguably shouldn't even run the card in your deck because you don't even want to see it off the weapon over a window shopper.

    • @ssspikesss
      @ssspikesss Месяц назад +3

      @@amethonys2798 and u dont... magtheridon is played in less than 3 percent of decks, while boom is played in almost 30 percent of decks

    • @viktor7258
      @viktor7258 Месяц назад

      ​@@ssspikessstbf inventor boom is starting to see play now after the patch bcs of reno warrior and its great synergy with 9 mana zilliax, but before I never saw it

  • @theelectricant98
    @theelectricant98 Месяц назад +1

    Rarran this is my favorite video of this whole series you've been doing, absolutely love the format and both of the guests, and you did a great job keeping things interesting and funny

  • @norcall5733
    @norcall5733 Месяц назад +2

    13:22 "This is an 8 mana 20/20, with 4 deathrattles. You can't convince me otherwise... I mean, 8 mana 20/20, it's so good! IT'S 4 MANA 20/20!!"

    • @redsnipingshot
      @redsnipingshot Месяц назад +2

      Which is especially weird since it's really an 8 mana 25/25...

  • @FGOboi
    @FGOboi Месяц назад +27

    Now that you know more about YGO after "mastering" Swordsoul, i'd like to see the Good vs Bad YGO cards series again

  • @vhaelen326
    @vhaelen326 Месяц назад +6

    9:08 i just now noticed magtheridon is demon/mech... such a wasted opportunity, shoulve called him MECHtheridon...

  • @Xhild_
    @Xhild_ Месяц назад +2

    I always love these series and seeing how knowledge of other card type games can help u understand indirectly how if a card is actually good or not

  • @Elround25
    @Elround25 Месяц назад +4

    holly crap this video is so well edited!!! Congrats Rarran!!!

  • @Cyb3rHusky
    @Cyb3rHusky Месяц назад +15

    Alternate title: "Rarran tries his best to start a CCG war"

  • @WhiskeyFiend
    @WhiskeyFiend Месяц назад +2

    7:30 In yugioh after 2 more turns, youre taking the match result slip to a judge.
    21:34 inventor boom is insane now with Zilliax in highlander, 31/27 with 24 damage on play, then 4 rush minions if something survives is nuts
    26:24 Kel'Thuzad was way better then Vectis, so many cheap removal spells exist.

  • @Monjijii
    @Monjijii Месяц назад +1

    This was such a fun concept with 2 of my favorite guests on the channel. Also congrats on hitting 200k!

  • @meruzhansargsyan1476
    @meruzhansargsyan1476 Месяц назад +1

    I really love how all the convos were cut together. It is super fluid!

  • @ratman505
    @ratman505 Месяц назад +1

    "A magic player, yugioh player and hearthstone player go into a bar", the video

  • @imkappachino2046
    @imkappachino2046 Месяц назад

    At 36:53 your face lighting up when u hear him get it wrong is actually priceless, u looked so happy he failed

  • @lautzu323
    @lautzu323 Месяц назад +1

    Great video. Amazing idea. Love both of these creators. I love the guessing from other games series.

  • @editingroomfloor
    @editingroomfloor Месяц назад +1

    Magic player here, my guesses playing along. Love this format!
    Tyr - Sic needs a build up, does nothing when it comes down and seems easy to remove before you can get it's post off. Tyr is instant pay off and can repeat batteries
    Black rock and roll - Big dreams seems way too slow and conditional
    Scrap Imp - seems slightly more flexible in the later game
    Rheastraza - Elise seems a little too RNG where as the dragons give you more choices because of the discover
    Inventor Boom - Doesn't need too much build around and the random doesn't seem that much of a downside as opposed to dormant
    Vectus - Kel'thazad seems a 'win more' card but vectus gives you value if you're behind on board.
    Raid The Sky Temple - Unseal the vault seems way too slow, even if you're playing aggro by the time you've played 20 minions the game is probably already over
    Cathedral - Always picking anything that draws cards
    Yogg in the box - Wheel of death seems very fun to play but unfathomably bad? There's no way this is good

  • @6Jarv9
    @6Jarv9 Месяц назад +1

    Love the sinergy between you three, these videos are VERY fun!

  • @user-uq9se1nx9q
    @user-uq9se1nx9q Месяц назад +7

    25:32 i think Vectus should get the point. Headmaster has to be like a 8-10 drop to actually do anything impactful, and that highly depends on what your opponent is playing; While Vectus is a 5 mana drop that may be played by himself (as long as you set up deathrattles first), and power-creeps along with any powerful deathrattles released in the future

    • @videstroyerzi740
      @videstroyerzi740 Месяц назад +3

      I mean vectus 100% saw more play, there was 1 niche scenario where ke'thuzad was good and it relied on kel'thuzad either being the biggest minion, or you having the biggest minion. Vectus was nasty in its usage, I remember seeing it get some usage with defile or broomstick to instantly pop the deathrattles.

    • @DinantZ
      @DinantZ Месяц назад +4

      There were no actual decks that even ran him. Headmaster at least existed in a few niche decks.

  • @slashroar
    @slashroar Месяц назад +2

    I remember Kel"thuzad was used a lot more than vectus, I don't remember seeing vectus in ranked, but maybe i just forgot

  • @lwyz8a
    @lwyz8a Месяц назад +2

    Cathedral of Atonement is still being played today in wild, even in hyper aggro priest decks, that just shows how much better of a card it is than Great Hall.

  • @AshfcknKetchum
    @AshfcknKetchum Месяц назад +12

    Great guests Rarran, but damn, it makes me a little sad that I don't give a shit about Yugioh, because Stevie is genuinely hilarious.

  • @dutssz
    @dutssz Месяц назад

    "What happened to naming conventions? Tyr and Sif are names a preschoolar would give to their characters" to two norse mythology gods

  • @Revinance88
    @Revinance88 Месяц назад +7

    “Legendary names used to be cool. Now we just have “Tyr” and “Sif”. These are what my 2nd grade cousin would name his action figures!’
    Norse Pagans collectively groan.

  • @salamanteri_
    @salamanteri_ Месяц назад +1

    10/10 editing. And it's always nice to see guests. :)

  • @John_President
    @John_President Месяц назад +1

    Shoutouts to Rarran for the fantastic content. I Really love the variety of ideas because it's super fresh and entertaining. Keep it up!

  • @ajelinho
    @ajelinho Месяц назад +2

    The crowd demands more covertgoblue content

  • @matthewpelletier4485
    @matthewpelletier4485 Месяц назад

    Love the video! This was a great extension of the previous card rating videos.
    I would personally say that the Magtheridon evaluation is unfair because the card itself is terrible, umpire's grasp and window shopper are very strong but no one actually plays the card. Boom on the other hand does actually get some play for actually being played. I know this vid was before the patch and boom wasn't really used then but just my thoughts.
    Overall very entertaining and would love to see another video like this again.
    Thanks for the content Rarran

  • @Brazz27
    @Brazz27 Месяц назад +1

    I don't really know how much more work it would take but Id take 1h + of these (with one guest or more, both are cool) every week for sure. These are the perfect videos to go to bed with.
    Long form youtube is great and I hope creators push it more.

  • @felixbermudez3782
    @felixbermudez3782 Месяц назад +2

    All of these Rarran CGB videos have pulled me so deep into MTG my "autoplay" goes either into CGB or TCC shuffle up and play.

  • @shawn2241
    @shawn2241 15 дней назад

    The editing was so smooth in this video, great job!

  • @mawillix2018
    @mawillix2018 Месяц назад +3

    Vectus was tried over and over and requires help from the opponent to actually be good. When the opponent didn't help you with Vectus, the card was really bad.
    KT found like 2 good combos, and if you failed, it was still a decent card later in the game.

  • @kevintrigg3707
    @kevintrigg3707 Месяц назад

    The editing on this video, cutting between perspectives seamlessly on the same topic, was amazing!

  • @konohahurricane07
    @konohahurricane07 Месяц назад +2

    Stevie had a huge advantage too because he has way more experience with Hearthstone.

  • @alexanderfisher7261
    @alexanderfisher7261 Месяц назад +3

    Tyr vs sif is not easy for someone coming from a game that has interaction on your opponents turn. Sif without context looks really hard to make work and tyr seems like a card you can load good abilities into for a broken effect.

  • @icebox5378
    @icebox5378 Месяц назад +2

    Congrats on the 200k subs Rarran!!!

  • @Ronin11111111
    @Ronin11111111 Месяц назад

    Fantastic editing work and great performance from both guests!

  • @LexiBelleGaming
    @LexiBelleGaming Месяц назад +1

    You're killing it with the collab content my dude.

  • @Nagalord591
    @Nagalord591 Месяц назад

    Great Vid! as always Rarran has the best HS vids on the net!

  • @xRoGeSx
    @xRoGeSx Месяц назад

    Just wanted to say I enjoy those types of videos, and even though hearthstone itself does not hit the same anymore it brings me great joy watching Ranranra, CGB and Steve cross-discover cool stuff about respective card games

  • @owenvandevelde1439
    @owenvandevelde1439 Месяц назад

    Great video! I really like how you keep innovating

  • @DDayeW
    @DDayeW Месяц назад

    Really enjoyed this. Amazing editing.

  • @wolfgangroddewig
    @wolfgangroddewig Месяц назад +1

    I remember seeing KT being played, vectus I didn’t even remembered that card until today 😂

  • @RealityRogue
    @RealityRogue Месяц назад +2

    Vectus was AMAZING in duels to be fair

  • @pengwins8820
    @pengwins8820 Месяц назад +1

    This format would be really cool if you showed entire packages like DK Plague package. Getting them to guess how good Inventor Boom was without any context on the game plan just seems weird. loved the video though. Keep it up!!

  • @NigelUnleashed
    @NigelUnleashed Месяц назад +1

    I remember Vectus actually being played in some decks. Don't think I ever really saw Kel'Thuzad ever.

  • @Corvustyx
    @Corvustyx Месяц назад +3

    It's so bizarre hearing Vectis got no love, because I would play him in my big demon Warlock and he'd just summon two 5/5's with lifesteal or shuffle more Kanrethad Primes into my deck and just be insane value, meanwhile Kel was 5 mana while most board clears where 3+ mana so earliest you'd have value was turn 8.
    Even then it entirely depended on your opponent to have a worthwhile minion to steal and even if they did, they would usually be a slower deck with board clears to just immediately remove it. Along with Spellburst being janky, you have to make any preparations *before* Kel hit the board because it'd just pop the spellburst and you'd get nothing, so you couldn't (back then) be on turn 10, coin for 11 mana (or 12 now with audio amplifier), then play Kel and do whatever. He just wasn't good, too slow to matter. Vectis was just better imo, there was no depending on your opponent. If you had good deathrattles, you just ran Vectis.

    • @DinantZ
      @DinantZ Месяц назад +2

      And how were you able to kill your Enhanced Dreadlord before turn 5 where you would play your Vectis? That's the situation you provided to say its better then Headmaster because he would be played in turn 8.

  • @elishaya7039
    @elishaya7039 Месяц назад +1

    The big weakness of Raid the Sky Temple was the existence of the Reno hero card. The quest reward and Reno hero power did very similar things, so why bother with the quest?

  • @Jerrysaurus
    @Jerrysaurus 26 дней назад

    Top tier editing, if your video quality keeps up this strong I definitely will sub even though I am a magic player. ❤

  • @Emperorhirohito19272
    @Emperorhirohito19272 Месяц назад

    These are your best kind of videos man, I love these

  • @jorgecabrera3694
    @jorgecabrera3694 Месяц назад +2

    Rarran the kind of guy who doesn't use windex to clean his lens at 4:15

  • @FreddyChoppins
    @FreddyChoppins Месяц назад +1

    Between Headmaster and Vectus, I'd say Vectus was the better card solely because I remember him actually seeing play, mainly in Warlock egg decks. I may be misremembering, but I barely even remembered Kel'thuzad, probably only saw him played a handful of times.

  • @khornewarrior2601
    @khornewarrior2601 Месяц назад

    I think this was my favourite of the X other content creator guesses card power videos. This was great. Well done Rarran

  • @TinyZu
    @TinyZu Месяц назад

    You did it, Rarran. You assembled the greatest crossover in the card game cinematic universe.

  • @raymondhall5929
    @raymondhall5929 Месяц назад

    So, I have never played Hearthstone or Magic, and have not played Yu-Gi-Oh in several years, but I will watch a video with these guys every day. I love this video concept and I hope these continue

  • @Giperon1602
    @Giperon1602 Месяц назад +1

    I dont remember the exact decklist, but I remember that Vectus seen play in otk bomb warlock or something like that. He wasn't the main wincon there, but he was a good addition to the deck

  • @cynthia-op8rx
    @cynthia-op8rx Месяц назад

    great idea for a fun twist on this series. I think the problem CGB often has in these videos is he doesn't realize how easy it is to clear a board in hearthstone but he turned it around

  • @picoDeMoose
    @picoDeMoose Месяц назад +1

    shit my pants at 3/2 leper gnomes, thank you for that

  • @vharmi.
    @vharmi. Месяц назад +1

    Hey congrats on 200k subs Rarran! 🎉

  • @Opno
    @Opno Месяц назад

    I really really like the editing of this going between the two of them on different sentences and cards, just gotta say

  • @imik_plays
    @imik_plays Месяц назад +2

    Kelthuzad was much better because of defile and mainly Shield Shatter in warrior. Vectus was kinda unplayable, because you had to play him kinda later in the game for the whelps to gain some good deathrattle effects.

  • @AntheanCeilliers
    @AntheanCeilliers Месяц назад

    This is SUCH a fun idea. I would love to see like ten rematches of this.

  • @vhaelen326
    @vhaelen326 Месяц назад +2

    2:25 the naming convention here is to just go with the name as all the titan forged people are just named after offbrand norse gods

    • @NoxarBoi
      @NoxarBoi Месяц назад +2

      Most of them are off-brand names, but Tyr and Sif (and Freya) are just the actual names. But also, most of the other ones had titles like “Odyn, Prime Designate”, or “Loken, Jailer of Yogg-Saron”

    • @vhaelen326
      @vhaelen326 Месяц назад

      @@NoxarBoi fair point on both things, thoug odyn and loken are alot more impactful then the rest so giving them extra titles also makes sense

  • @amethonys2798
    @amethonys2798 Месяц назад +2

    Worth noting for Homunculus vs Scrap Imp is the classes they are in. Both are pretty much forced to be in "zoo" style decks and Warlock is probably 90% of the time the objectively better aggro deck compared to Priest (there are outliers like Undead Shadow Priest recently, but that's the 10%).

  • @MFMegaZeroX7
    @MFMegaZeroX7 Месяц назад +1

    As someone that plays both Magic and Yugioh, I was 4/4, perfectly between the two haha.

  • @omeismm
    @omeismm Месяц назад +2

    Thanks for cleaning my screen at 4:15

  • @Waamaru
    @Waamaru Месяц назад

    Love this new form of guessing which card is better, having 2 different universes colliding, both viewpoint, very cool !

  • @TimboTbagz
    @TimboTbagz Месяц назад +4

    Tyr/ Sif is hard because it requires a bit of knowledge about the meta. On the face of it, Tyr is great but there have rarely been any ways to build around it.

    • @m3e7
      @m3e7 Месяц назад +6

      I'd argue that's the case with Wheel of Death as well. If playing that card didn't also come with a free 15/15 with taunt and lifesteal, and potentially another 15/15 with rush, depending on if you have the location, it would be a lot worse

    • @amethonys2798
      @amethonys2798 Месяц назад +1

      I mean maybe? Assuming both have build arounds printed with them you should still generally assume Sif is the better card because mage almost always has cheap burn in standard to throw at the opponent's face.
      Tyr's issue is the "support" it would need has to be very good and also impact the board and even then is still going to almost always amount to just a pile of stats. Sif if it is playable is going to end the game the turn it is played.

    • @saltkeeper44
      @saltkeeper44 Месяц назад +2

      Tyr was just bad, it costed to much in what he was doing. Rarran said himself Tyr's tear it's just a better in what the deck was trying to accomplish

    • @nuhrii3449
      @nuhrii3449 Месяц назад

      @@m3e7 thats not even comparable, you have to consider warlock is either control or zoo, and it has really good control cards, fanthom isnt really an issue, its sargeras, owlkin, loken, handlock cards, its the constant value and cheating out big enough minions to stall the game out, and 5 turns isnt even that long because it counts the turn its played. where as 5 spells that cost 5 or more is so meh, because its mostly going to be 5, 6, and 7 drops, unless it casts sunset 5 times, its not going to be good

    • @juliandacosta6841
      @juliandacosta6841 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@m3e7if you actually had to wait 5 turns it would be much worse, but it's really 4 turns.

  • @NovaEmpyrean
    @NovaEmpyrean Месяц назад +2

    Would love to see Farfa here too one day!