This lesson gives a lot of things to think about, but one thing he said early, at the 4:00 mark, was that it's hard to put all the swing thoughts into practice when you're hitting a real ball. That really perked my ears up! I'm 75 and have been playing for over 60 years, and have never found the solution to my main problem: My practice swing always looks great, but when I put a ball down, it is a different swing. Maybe by easing these ideas into my swing, I'll get some real improvement. Thanks, guys!!
As Paul Wilson put it, "human tendency is to HIT when we have an object in front of us. The time swing is just swinging THROUGH the golf ball". What this did for me is to realize when I try to hit the ball, I use more of my arms than my legs and hips, causing me to come over the top. When I focused on hitting through the ball, because it's in the way, I noticed more accuracy, a few more yards on my distance, and my confidence when they the roof. I went from playing most courses at high 70's to low 80's to shooting low 70's to mid 70's on most courses. My lowest score is 70, which I did on 3 separate occasions and even had a chance to shoot 68 but it choked on 18 and 3 putted 🤬😂
Bet your staying up and swinging with right tempo. Guy just pointed this out in my swing. Practiced with foam balls and sand wedge to get used to swinging practice swing all the time. Relax and swing loose and make sure your not bending or reaching down to hit the ball. Gotta get used to doing it with half swings
Same here bro. Played with some kiddo got grouped with and one told me same stuff saying he been trying to figure out what I was doing different. Because practice swing be perfect. Felt perfect. Feel uncomfortable over ball. And I was so horribly bending down with right shoulder using all arms. Getting used to practicing half swings and hitting foam balls fixed it immediately. Just take practice swing and add foam ball and its easy to figure out
I've been using Almost golf balls for many years. They go a third of the distance and you can draw or cut them. They are dense and compress like a real ball. Great for the front yard neighborhood park if allowed. I usually play from my yard to a neighbor's yard. Picking spots I want to land on. It helps with smoother tempo and gets me to not over swing. Get a good mat and you can play anywhere with them.
Just had my first golf lesson in years. There were a lot of things that you said in this video that my coach also said, the thing I liked about this that my coach didn't have time to get to was how to actually implement this. The process you went through with the freezers and slow backswing is hands down the best "swing tip" I have ever seen on youtube. Excellent vid.
Sounds like you found this video at the right time! Put this process into practice and you'll be able to make those swing changes your coach worked on.
Just turned 50 and really wanted to get better. The amount of practice I’m putting in is ridiculous. It’s hard to change 30 years of bad golf swings but I’m not quitting. Great video lots of stuff to take away here and use to get me to my goal. Thank you
I see a lot of Monte Scheinblum lessons in here, but very well communicated. Nobody owns an idea, and I think you are both on the right track. Will subscribe for more.
I have a bag of foam balls, and I can air whiff with the best of them. Now, I think I see a strategy, involving these balls, that can help me get better at 73. The freeze tactic is new to me, but it seems logical, as it really seems to help feel and perform a proper weight shift. That is the hardest part of the swing for me, as I tend to be late to the party so that, even when I get clean strikes, I can't seem to deliver the clubhead speed that I think I should be able to deliver. Perhaps this technique will allow me to make up for my wasted youth riding nuclear submarines. LOL Thanks, gentlemen. Best golf video I've seen this year.
As a Method of Instruction (MOI) this approach looks very sound. Given the wide variety of ways to swing a gold club, (body vs arms hands, etc) this MOI looks like it could be applied to any of them by breaking down the movement into its component parts. As I approach 70 I would view the body driven approach of turning the body down to square the clubface with skepticism if you want to avoid injury. YMMV, especially if you're in your 30s...
This was great- not so much on the technical aspects (will listen to my coach!) but on the general ideas regarding making big changes and taking it to the course, practicing the movement etc. I spend a lot of time doing movements at home with no ball- not because I am dedicated, but because I don't have a space to hit a ball !!
This was fascinating! I'm trying to implement this exact swing change and body movement in my swing lessons atm, this will be so helpful for my at-home practice.
Glad it was helpful! Make sure to hop on our workshop this Friday and listen to Luke talk through all the details! get.golfsciencelab.com/swing-change-workshop
Dr. Luke is the best coach I've ever worked with. I've been using his method for a few weeks and have seen rapid changes like this. Sadly, many people will enjoy this and not do it. It's worth it! It takes time to get used to it, but now I LOVE foam balls!
This is pretty well how I go about making a swing change although I hit a rolled up towel or cut long grass when doing it not foam balls. Your brain reacts to what the ball is doing so you are double minded if working on a swing change and hitting balls , by taking the ball out of the equation the mission then becomes building in the change you want.. I find short sessions of about 10 to 15 minutes with breaks works best rather than a long session and do lots of 10 15 minute sessions through the day. I also train both right and left handed swings and find I get more done than just training right handed,. The fact I have trained myself to play left handed for some reason makes me feel any swing change I am working on is more achievable where I have expectation rather than hope.
This is awesome. Never knew about this place and just under 2 hours from me. Looks like it must be newer, might have taken over the location of another golf fitter/training place I think,
This is exactly what I'm doing with my golf pro. I've been golfing my whole life. In high school I was a 7 handicap so some how my old swing worked. But now it doesn't at 33. Dropping my hands so low is so foreign to me. Really hard to rebuild.
I watched the new Athletic Motion Golf video on side bend. I'm 8 months into serious golf didn't play since I was a teen, 25 years ago... Anyway spine flexing early getting the right amount of open and side bend, foot pressure. And I know the axe drill from pete cowen like the takeaway I have it all on lock. Dude I left the simulator yesterday and my back actually felt healthier than when I walked in, so that was good. But I was topping and hitting the ball off the wall off the simulator walls and it was totally sad. My brother was there I could see on his face he felt bad for me. I watched this video and like yeah I was thinking all this stuff. Neurologically, I just have to keep going through this... I hit some foam balls today in the backyard and I felt better., I needed to give my body permission do match my lower with my upper, it's complicated with the body map. Hey... If they can fix pain with the mirror trick with amputees.... this isn't easy, thanks for the lesson
this video is amazing. i watched it tried to copy everything you did over and over today. is your dynamic lie angle toe down before you started working on early extension? i’m like 5-9* down so this video is perfect for me! so great!
Makes sense with the foam ball, felt my brain body hesitation after shanking a few during swing change. Though I think a hard requirement is to have coaching feedback or at least film yourself otherwise can’t tell if I’m making progress or just playing extremely poorly
Any tips or drills once you have the foam ball swing the way you want, I am still reverting to old ways, early extension, standing up , under rotation whenever a golf ball is in front of me.
Just saw the same video earlier today, it was great! Now i need a range session, i do hit foam balls in my spare room and have been improving hitting off the divot mat
I agree. Probably why he said “you don’t need to hit it like Joaquim Niemann “. We all have physical limitations. You can shallow the golf plane without bending over and hurting yourself.
What a great video. I would do these lessons if they had them where i lived. Do they have online lessons? Im sure he would not fix my swing faults that fast and i would get my money back!! Lol Awesome video, thanks
This is kind of ironic. I don't play much or physically practice much anymore. I just don't have the time. But when I do play you wouldn't know. I do hours of what I call dry drills. No ball, no hitting just slow motion practice. Sometimes with a club and sometimes with some other inanimate object. A couple swings here and there at a time. You can make wholesale changes and hit the correct positions that way. I would also add that going slow and flushing a ball 10 yards with a full swing will do wonders for your game.
Love the lesson ….really struggling to see how you keep the old crappy swing still going. I think I’d rather commit and take my medicine on the course.
Gotta burn in those kung fu poses when you're not at the course. Keep that handful of swing-thoughts and practice forms written down, and see which one you're forgetting to do in the mirror. If you just try and summon the knowledge 3 months later after doing zero reps, you're always going to revert to instinct.
What gets me is how you adapt this for being tall. Also, there are two kinds of tall... Short legs and long torso! Long legs and short torso. I am the former. At 6'6" it's a problem! So what do you do!?!
He’s way over the line at the top and he is scrunched up at the bottom. I will definitely not copy these body mechanics. But I will use some foam balls.
@@golfsciencelab definitely gonna take as much from this process as I can. It just makes too much sense. The retirement dream house swing concept was 🤌
@@psycho8771oh the “feels”… lol. I understand enough about a golf swing to know that practicing with foam balls does absolutely nothing for your swing.
@Steve-qn8gn How so? He's practicing the movement without worrying about contact. I don't agree with super side bend swings but practicing without worrying about strike definitely can help.
This lesson gives a lot of things to think about, but one thing he said early, at the 4:00 mark, was that it's hard to put all the swing thoughts into practice when you're hitting a real ball. That really perked my ears up! I'm 75 and have been playing for over 60 years, and have never found the solution to my main problem: My practice swing always looks great, but when I put a ball down, it is a different swing. Maybe by easing these ideas into my swing, I'll get some real improvement. Thanks, guys!!
You nailed it!
As Paul Wilson put it, "human tendency is to HIT when we have an object in front of us. The time swing is just swinging THROUGH the golf ball".
What this did for me is to realize when I try to hit the ball, I use more of my arms than my legs and hips, causing me to come over the top. When I focused on hitting through the ball, because it's in the way, I noticed more accuracy, a few more yards on my distance, and my confidence when they the roof. I went from playing most courses at high 70's to low 80's to shooting low 70's to mid 70's on most courses. My lowest score is 70, which I did on 3 separate occasions and even had a chance to shoot 68 but it choked on 18 and 3 putted 🤬😂
Bet your staying up and swinging with right tempo. Guy just pointed this out in my swing. Practiced with foam balls and sand wedge to get used to swinging practice swing all the time. Relax and swing loose and make sure your not bending or reaching down to hit the ball. Gotta get used to doing it with half swings
Same here bro. Played with some kiddo got grouped with and one told me same stuff saying he been trying to figure out what I was doing different. Because practice swing be perfect. Felt perfect. Feel uncomfortable over ball. And I was so horribly bending down with right shoulder using all arms. Getting used to practicing half swings and hitting foam balls fixed it immediately. Just take practice swing and add foam ball and its easy to figure out
I've been using Almost golf balls for many years. They go a third of the distance and you can draw or cut them. They are dense and compress like a real ball. Great for the front yard neighborhood park if allowed. I usually play from my yard to a neighbor's yard. Picking spots I want to land on. It helps with smoother tempo and gets me to not over swing. Get a good mat and you can play anywhere with them.
"It's a great simulation of the reaction of a real golf ball." Dave Pelz
Yeah that's the only one I use. Other foams are like a marshmallow and no way am I hitting a birdie ball.
I'll bet your neighbor just loves you
@@marybetheby5184What's your objection to Birdie Balls?
They have the same thing on Amazon now for A LOT less money. I’ve switched to them . Just as good .
Just had my first golf lesson in years. There were a lot of things that you said in this video that my coach also said, the thing I liked about this that my coach didn't have time to get to was how to actually implement this. The process you went through with the freezers and slow backswing is hands down the best "swing tip" I have ever seen on youtube. Excellent vid.
Sounds like you found this video at the right time! Put this process into practice and you'll be able to make those swing changes your coach worked on.
Just turned 50 and really wanted to get better. The amount of practice I’m putting in is ridiculous. It’s hard to change 30 years of bad golf swings but I’m not quitting. Great video lots of stuff to take away here and use to get me to my goal. Thank you
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I see a lot of Monte Scheinblum lessons in here, but very well communicated. Nobody owns an idea, and I think you are both on the right track. Will subscribe for more.
Appreciate the sub!
Awesome to see, I just went to Luke for the first time for an in person lesson last week and this was exactly what we worked on.
That is awesome!
Love the description of flipping. I've ALWAYS thought flipping was a result of improper body motion and/or path. This is amazing. Thanks!
I have a bag of foam balls, and I can air whiff with the best of them.
Now, I think I see a strategy, involving these balls, that can help me get better at 73. The freeze tactic is new to me, but it seems logical, as it really seems to help feel and perform a proper weight shift. That is the hardest part of the swing for me, as I tend to be late to the party so that, even when I get clean strikes, I can't seem to deliver the clubhead speed that I think I should be able to deliver.
Perhaps this technique will allow me to make up for my wasted youth riding nuclear submarines. LOL
Thanks, gentlemen. Best golf video I've seen this year.
As a Method of Instruction (MOI) this approach looks very sound. Given the wide variety of ways to swing a gold club, (body vs arms hands, etc) this MOI looks like it could be applied to any of them by breaking down the movement into its component parts. As I approach 70 I would view the body driven approach of turning the body down to square the clubface with skepticism if you want to avoid injury. YMMV, especially if you're in your 30s...
Sci-Core practice balls are the best, & work well with both the R10 & Skytrak+.
This was great- not so much on the technical aspects (will listen to my coach!) but on the general ideas regarding making big changes and taking it to the course, practicing the movement etc. I spend a lot of time doing movements at home with no ball- not because I am dedicated, but because I don't have a space to hit a ball !!
Love it!! That was the hope that you can add this process into your swing changes to make it happen more effectively.
This was fascinating! I'm trying to implement this exact swing change and body movement in my swing lessons atm, this will be so helpful for my at-home practice.
Glad it was helpful! Make sure to hop on our workshop this Friday and listen to Luke talk through all the details! get.golfsciencelab.com/swing-change-workshop
What the hell is this. Probably the best golf lesson I’ve ever seen! And I live in MN too…
Apprecaite the comment. Come see me at Interlachen Coutnry Club!
Dr. Luke is the best coach I've ever worked with. I've been using his method for a few weeks and have seen rapid changes like this.
Sadly, many people will enjoy this and not do it. It's worth it! It takes time to get used to it, but now I LOVE foam balls!
Great feedback! Luke is awesome. Glad it’s going well for you!!
!!,i@@golfsciencelab
Luke is an awsome coach. By the way - 15:12 *face control
This is pretty well how I go about making a swing change although I hit a rolled up towel or cut long grass when doing it not foam balls. Your brain reacts to what the ball is doing so you are double minded if working on a swing change and hitting balls , by taking the ball out of the equation the mission then becomes building in the change you want.. I find short sessions of about 10 to 15 minutes with breaks works best rather than a long session and do lots of 10 15 minute sessions through the day. I also train both right and left handed swings and find I get more done than just training right handed,. The fact I have trained myself to play left handed for some reason makes me feel any swing change I am working on is more achievable where I have expectation rather than hope.
This is awesome. Never knew about this place and just under 2 hours from me. Looks like it must be newer, might have taken over the location of another golf fitter/training place I think,
This is exactly what I'm doing with my golf pro. I've been golfing my whole life. In high school I was a 7 handicap so some how my old swing worked. But now it doesn't at 33. Dropping my hands so low is so foreign to me. Really hard to rebuild.
Dr B is amazing! It was an awesome one on one lesson..thanks Cordie
Glad you enjoyed it!
I watched the new Athletic Motion Golf video on side bend. I'm 8 months into serious golf didn't play since I was a teen, 25 years ago... Anyway spine flexing early getting the right amount of open and side bend, foot pressure. And I know the axe drill from pete cowen like the takeaway I have it all on lock. Dude I left the simulator yesterday and my back actually felt healthier than when I walked in, so that was good. But I was topping and hitting the ball off the wall off the simulator walls and it was totally sad. My brother was there I could see on his face he felt bad for me. I watched this video and like yeah I was thinking all this stuff. Neurologically, I just have to keep going through this... I hit some foam balls today in the backyard and I felt better., I needed to give my body permission do match my lower with my upper, it's complicated with the body map. Hey... If they can fix pain with the mirror trick with amputees.... this isn't easy, thanks for the lesson
this video is amazing. i watched it tried to copy everything you did over and over today. is your dynamic lie angle toe down before you started working on early extension? i’m like 5-9* down so
this video is perfect for me! so great!
Love your teaching style. Helping me connect the dots to the @milolinesgolf swing I've been working on this year. Thanks!
Makes sense with the foam ball, felt my brain body hesitation after shanking a few during swing change. Though I think a hard requirement is to have coaching feedback or at least film yourself otherwise can’t tell if I’m making progress or just playing extremely poorly
Definitely agree! You need some feedback on swing changes and can't just "guess"
That was an awesome video. One heck of a lesson. Sign me up.👍👍
Any tips or drills once you have the foam ball swing the way you want, I am still reverting to old ways, early extension, standing up , under rotation whenever a golf ball is in front of me.
My next thought was only hit foam for a whole week before going back to a golf ball, not sure where to go next
We're having a workshop this Friday! We can definitely talk through this. Make sure to hop on if you can. get.golfsciencelab.com/swing-change-workshop
great video, will definitely be coming back and rewatching in a couple days
Awesome, thank you!
If you look at the AMG (athletic motion golf) recent side bend video, you’re probably going to injure your back doing this (going down to the ball).
Just saw the same video earlier today, it was great! Now i need a range session, i do hit foam balls in my spare room and have been improving hitting off the divot mat
I agree. Probably why he said “you don’t need to hit it like Joaquim Niemann “. We all have physical limitations. You can shallow the golf plane without bending over and hurting yourself.
@@patrickbigras5232 Exactly. Cordie was exagerating a very covered move. Doesn't need to be that low for everyone.
What a great video. I would do these lessons if they had them where i lived.
Do they have online lessons? Im sure he would not fix my swing faults that fast and i would get my money back!! Lol
Awesome video, thanks
Luke definitely does online lessons! I think you even get one free if you buy a Rypstick
This is an awesome video. I have been trying to work on getting shallow. Thanks
Is the driver different or the same?
Same concept applies to driver
All this makes alot of sense. Excellent lesson imo
Dang, the idea of a 5 month off season!! I’ve lived in Louisiana, Texas and now Las Vegas. What’s an off season?
😂. Move up north and you'll have plenty of off-season to practice during
This is kind of ironic. I don't play much or physically practice much anymore. I just don't have the time. But when I do play you wouldn't know. I do hours of what I call dry drills. No ball, no hitting just slow motion practice. Sometimes with a club and sometimes with some other inanimate object. A couple swings here and there at a time. You can make wholesale changes and hit the correct positions that way. I would also add that going slow and flushing a ball 10 yards with a full swing will do wonders for your game.
Do foam balls work for checking impact location if I were to spray the club face with Dr. Sholls?
Love the lesson ….really struggling to see how you keep the old crappy swing still going. I think I’d rather commit and take my medicine on the course.
That’s definitely an option if you’re committed to the process and don’t panic over scores for a bit of time.
17 SWING THOUGHTS?
21:15 No, no, no, cannot shot 140 again, ever!!!! Made the change and went from 90 to 94 on the first round with new swing...
Just feel like he doesn’t need to shallow his wedges. Seems like he’s learning a driver swing on his shortest clubs
I like. Discussions get straight to the point vs yapping too much with circular explanations/reasoning.
is that side bend going to murder my already tender back?
Good video but 5 months late 🫤. New season is about to start. Can’t work on changing my swing now!
So true!!!! We should have done this at the start of the winter!
Here's the $64,000 question.
After this is learned and working. How do you use this before a round of golf as your warm-up and while you are playing?
Gotta burn in those kung fu poses when you're not at the course. Keep that handful of swing-thoughts and practice forms written down, and see which one you're forgetting to do in the mirror.
If you just try and summon the knowledge 3 months later after doing zero reps, you're always going to revert to instinct.
Amazing video
This is gold.
Now I have to research what shallow means
Love the house analogy. Recipe for disaster playing golf swing in a comp.
The dream house analogy is such a good frame for how to approach this 🏠
I practice with almost golfballs at my yard so i dont slice it and shatter the neighbors window 😅😅😅😅
Didn't know Ben Afleck was a golf swing instructor
😂😂.
I'm way ahead of you, I learned a golf swing and not hit a great shot!
What gets me is how you adapt this for being tall. Also, there are two kinds of tall... Short legs and long torso! Long legs and short torso. I am the former. At 6'6" it's a problem! So what do you do!?!
Heights an advantage! Need to have width and be a bit steeper.
Gold!
Tremendous vid
Foam balls are what I existed on for the last 6 months.
I cannot practice with foam balls...my cat mauls them...😂
Not sure how to help you there 😂
I use foam golf balls in my yard
Now I know how Charles Barkley got his swing
"That was certifiably terrible" Ouch!
HAHA
He’s way over the line at the top and he is scrunched up at the bottom. I will definitely not copy these body mechanics. But I will use some foam balls.
I feel like this lesson was too good to be in a video most ppl probably think is just about a foam ball lol
It's so good! I hope people do take the time to figure out this process Luke walks through.
@@golfsciencelab definitely gonna take as much from this process as I can. It just makes too much sense. The retirement dream house swing concept was 🤌
Aw what happened to the grip it and rip it Mantra?
"That was certifiably terrible" 😂
You know what it was 😂
Minnesota golf sounds like ice skating in Afghanistan
lol. What a comment!
This is hilarious.
Modern golf instruction is so complicated. Hit like Moe Norman and you are good to go.
Drink every time he says “ok.” … bad habit of interviewers
Terrible advice here. Absolute rubbish.
Why?? If you understand anything about the golf swing you know that often you exaggerate feels to improve the swing. I doubt it's a one size fits all.
@@psycho8771oh the “feels”… lol. I understand enough about a golf swing to know that practicing with foam balls does absolutely nothing for your swing.
@Steve-qn8gn How so? He's practicing the movement without worrying about contact. I don't agree with super side bend swings but practicing without worrying about strike definitely can help.
Let me guess... you regularly shoot in the 60's. If so, no need for foam balls 🤪
@@psycho8771 why do you need a foam ball to not worry about strike?