I just wanted to say thank you Rick Shiels . My dad has been sick for a few years now and your videos give us a lot to talk about. We sent the video’s back and forth to each other. He loved your videos, always talking about your tips on the course. He passed away yesterday in peace. He loved watching you and now your videos will be something that always brings me joy to watch and think about my dad. Keep up the great work sir.
First of all deepest thoughts to you and your family aswell. Secon this kind of gentlemanship is one of the things that got me instantaneously hooked to start playing golf. Relly glad to have found your channel
This was brilliant thanks Rick. Did not expect to see this today but here we are! Love that you put us up against the GC and we found the accuracy on your wedges and irons very positive. We were a bit gutted that you based your conclusion on the Driver as we are working on improving dispersion and data accuracy in this area with guys like you hitting absolute bombs! Nonetheless, you have done us a solid and we appreciate you sharing the app with your viewers. Have a good one!
Please keep working on this app guys i love it but of course its not perfect, keep doing what you guys are doing and especilly with the new iphone having a new radar or detector of some sort it could possibly make this app a game changer!!
Keep up the great work Shot Vision. It looks like you’re getting very close. Hopefully the better cameras on the newer phone will help too. I’m sure there’s a huge prize for any app the can get get consistently within +/- 3% accuracy.
@@ederv the tutorial is on their app I saw the notification of Ricks video on my phone so I checked it out and it pretty fun might have to spend $7 for the pro, have a great👍
I'm not sure man. It's not the numbers it's the consistency that's an issue. If you really need a launch monitor, then investing in one of the affordable ones that give consistent readings would make more sense
@@Dunkinblownutzz_1 At least you know which general range you're in. It's one thing if it's telling you 150 yards, when you know you typically smoke 250-270
it's been 3 years and they have in fact updated the app, it works on iPhone XRs and later (so it's more backwards compatible than it was) and the phone now sits in front of you instead of behind your left heel. club head and ball speed are still free as are spin and launch - I haven't paid for it and I haven't taken it on course yet but from my first impressions I think they've done a good job incorporating feedback from various reviewers.
I'll be honest, when something is £19,995 cheaper than the alternative, even if it's 20 yards out, that's not a huge deal breaker. For an amateur golfer like me, a few yards here and there don't make a difference. I can see how Pros, who are the true pinnacle of their game will need a GCQ, but for the bumpkins like me who go round a course in 130 shots every week, the app is fine and tech will only get better.
@@terimartin1466 But if you are playing very poor beginner golf, knowing how fast/far you hit each club will help you select the proper clubs to work with in various situations. You can then work on consistency.
@@terimartin1466 I will have to agree. As a very poor golfer, distance for each club is far from my biggest issue. Consistency is by far my biggest issue.
I have used the app in the past and I think that it is accurate enough for gapping for the average player. The gapping mode has you hit 30 shots, if you drop your three highest and three lowest (which you should be doing anyway when you gap), then average the rest your results will be very close. Great video but would have liked to see your results with the 7 iron and wedge as well.
As with all of the lower end launch monitors, it tends to be the extremes where they struggle ie sand wedge (high spin) and driver (distance & ball speed). It would have been nice to see how the distances compared on the mid irons etc.
Great video; as always. However, I thought it would have been nice to compare the irons (e.g. pitching and 7) against the GC Quad as well. I would imagine the numbers would much closer together in iron play with much slower swing speeds.
Rich I downloaded this at the weekend... I started hitting foam balls in the garden into a net... what I found was that you could work on your swing and instantly see speed and distant improvements. I think it’s fairly stable up to a 7 iron (150 yards) and then errors creep with greater distances... Amazing bit of tech using a phone.... it can only get better....
Is an issue if the field of view of the camera and Iphone's frames per second. That is why driver numbers were so off in this video. if phones ever get 1000 frames per second this will work!
This was brilliant thanks Rick. Did not expect to see this today but here we are! Love that you put us up against the GC and we found the accuracy on your wedges and irons very positive. We were a bit gutted that you based your conclusion on the Driver as we are working on improving dispersion and data accuracy in this area with guys like you hitting absolute bombs! Nonetheless, you have done us a solid and we appreciate you sharing the app with your viewers. Have a good one! 100%!
I'd like to see you walk down the fairway and get a actual range of the shots you hit as well. Then you could compare the accuracy of them both. Just because the quad is 20k doesn't mean its correct.
tons of people have done this, specifically with the GC Quad. Because it's 20k does mean its accurate in this case lol its in the single digit percents in terms of margin of error
I was thinking this the entire time also. Granted the 20k version most has more/better sensors, camera, and developmental testing, and all of it is hardware is controlled ( many different phones, and cameras could effect the measurement). I would have loved a spotter, measuring impact to verify the distance, as the 20k version may be wrong also unless it is full tracking the ball in flight, it is also just using a calculation like the phone.
There is a reason why GC quad and trackman are more accurate indoors. Let's say you hit a drive outside with them into the wind. Well the launch monitor will give it a carry and total distance much different based souly on weather and range conditions. They give you ideal numbers which is what everyone wants.
Correct - it might not be correct. I also think the shops selling clubs set these things up when you whang a ball in to a net so it appears you have hit further than you think. The readings I got on my last set of clubs were 20 yards longer than real life. 7 iron was 175 to 179 in the shop but reality is 155 to 160...
I have this app and for a beginner hitting into a net, it makes all the difference. Even not being perfect, I can get feedback on what I am doing well and not. For $50/year US, it is a valuable tool for using at the house and learning my swing. As I progress I could see the inaccuracy becoming an issue, but hard to justify $500 on a portable launch monitor while learning to hit my clubs.
Rick, agree with you in almost all your vids, but I think your missing that 99.999% of golfers are not playing on tour, 9:24, I don't think a $7/mth app will ever be meant for the tour. For the avg golfer to get some indication of swing metrics can be a good learning and entertainment tool making range sessions more fun, I use a swing caddie sc300 myself, not 100% accurate but a lot of fun at the range or in a net and has helped with gapping and distance control, an app at $7/mth that gives you a glimpse, I think it's good value and worthwhile for enjoyment or to learn your own game....
I’m more interested on how this compares to something like the garmin product or other launch monitors that cost 200-400, that’s clearly the competition and not a 20k launch monitor. Kind of obvious which is better.
Not really. The GC quad is more expensive because of the club head data. Degress of club face at impact, club path etc. Whether it’s £20k or £2 the distance needs to be right, as no information is better than incorrect information.
@@Bonio84 Comparing the app to GC quad for overall accuracy makes sense but I've never seen a launch monitor that costs less then 500 that can compete with GC quad on distance information. I would be willing to bet the app reviewed might be better then some of the less expensive launch monitors out there and that would potentially save some of us money.
Its not a comparison between the gcq and the app. The gcq is for checking out if the numbers the app gave him are correct ore not. Thats all. it's not about whether the gcq is better than the app or not.
@@dixotv5586 I said I’d like to see it compared to budget launch monitors. I’d like to see how close the app is to the budget monitors that I know aren’t as accurate as GC quad as well but allot less expensive.
it's pretty much as accurate as the G80 based on the other reviews i've seen and my own personal experience. makes the G80 look like a total ripoff at $700 where i live (in Canada).
I found it accurate on all the wedges and irons. Rather than focusing on individual shots, you need to hit 20+ shots then delete the mis hits and results that are way off the average and the resulting figures and graph are pretty much bob on. Excellent app.
I’m in the instrumentation business, and what you’re describing is precision (repeatable answer) vs accuracy (right answer). Considering you don’t do instruments for a living, that was amazingly correct and insightful! If the measurement is REPEATABLE, maybe it’s less important that it’s wrong if it’s always wrong by the same amount!
Exactly my thoughts.... I say the same thing about using the top golf-style bays at the local range... People bitch and moan about using them to get an actual feel for numbers, but so long as the (off) numbers are consistent, I'm good with NOT paying $100+/hour on a launch monitor.. I mean... golf is a game of adjustment and compensation... If you're bitching on the 18th about a bad shot because "that's the yardage I was getting at top golf," you've got a lot to work on....
Here I am looking into i-phone apps for golf and who pops up for a demo ride? My favorite RUclips golf instructor! Once again Rick, your objective views are most helpful, thanks...
Great video. Ive been wondering this for so long, very helpful. Personally for me as a beginner, 5-20yds wrong, thats forgivable for £7. Definitely more forgivable than me justifying £20,000 to the misses 😂
was thinking this too, as a beginner and a total noob, that low of a cost should still be ok. It's in the "general ball park" of what we as noobs need. "Didi I hit it almost the same every time?" is my main question :)
@@jorwul yep your only looking for consistency, and if you see your club and swing speed are generally consistent then the distance is not extremely important especiaaly for the smaall 7 dollar ammount ur paying
Fair play for shouting out Simon @ SAS Golf he is one of the best golf youtubers out there especially for beginners or folks looking to get into golf who might not have the money to spend on new clubs. 👍🏻
I was really hoping to see more comparisons using the irons. A driver is going to be the hardest to calculate a good result, being the fastest and longest club. But if an app could somewhat achieve a decent result in irons 9-6/5 and wedges, it would definitely be interesting. And since you have a one of the best launch monitors money can buy, you would be able to show it.
I got this app during lockdown. It seemed to have real issues picking up slower swing speeds. It would only catch every third shot, and those that did read were very inconsistent. Also, my kid’s swings would never register. I read on line that hanging a black drop opposite your shot would help it read. While reading did improve, the numbers were still all over the place. After about two weeks, I put the cash for Garmin G80 (telling myself it was just reallocating the money I wasn’t spend playing golf) and was very impressed. Much more accurate and consistently reading shots. The games made practicing fun; and my kids also had a lot of fun with virtual rounds. All that combines with the on course GPS & post game analysts on through the app make this a worthwhile investment. Not saying $400 isn’t a lot, b/c it is. I’m just saying I don’t regret spending it.
You're almost literally comparing a Ford Fiesta with a Lamborghini Aventador... Of course they're not the same. The app appears to do a job, it gives you some numbers to play with. It probably makes the range more fun. $7 vs $20,000... Chalk and cheese springs to mind
Yeah, but the whole point of getting swing and launch data is to see what you are doing right or wrong....if the app just churns out such variable numbers then it’s not that useful. Certainly not worth nearly £100 a year!
You can't say that when the point of buying a launch monitor is to figure out your numbers, what's the point of using a launch monitor if it is going to give you false numbers? At that point it is obsolete.
@@sonny2480 it did ok, but that’s only because Rick hits thousands of shots with that GC Quad and knows his yardages etc very accurately and he had a known comparison. If Joe average went in blind with it, what would you compare it to? You’d be guessing at best. I know my yardages (roughly), I don’t think this app would help me out!
You mentioned the camera is what captures all of the data. I would like to point out that not all camera's are capable of capturing the same. In the event you have a phone such as the Samsung galaxy S20 (Android) which currently among the top best camera's for phones currently available... how big of a difference would there be? Thank you for the quality content! Simply inspiring!!
Great vid! I been golfing a little less than a year and learned so much from your channel. I also bought the 1 month subscription just to get an idea of my distances and also ran into inconsistencies. There are times when it doesn’t read anything at all just like in your video. Keep up the great material
Most of the budget launch monitors struggle catching spin with wedges and distance with drivers. I would be interested in seeing how accurate it was with typical irons that people use on the range. Pw and 7 iron.
As somebody who has just started golfing this year I'd have to say for under 20 dollars a month it is definitely worth it to give a ballpark range of where I can expect to land with any given club. It's a good budget friendly option for someone who is curious about the info given but doesnt want to spend a large amount to acquire that said information
The question I have is, since it uses the camera for the feature, would it be more accurate with a newer version phone, for example iPhone 12 vs iPhone X/8 since manufacturers claim better camera performance each product?
Unless the camera can record more frames I don't see how a better picture would make the app more accurate. This is assuming without any evidence all apple devices are good enough to take pictures where the ball isn't a foggy mess.
Not entirely, however the iPhone 12 will have a LiDar sensor, which could be incorporated into an app like this and be wayyy more accurate than the camera on an iphone 11
In the video it looks like the sun is in front of you and your phone is behind you, pointing at the sun. If you were to put the sun behind the phone I bet the numbers would be more accurate and you would have less non read shots. Because the exposure for the camera would be more ideal.
Rick, I think you missed the point. I can’t afford the GC. I can’t afford small Garmin unit. I used to be an 8-10 handicap player, but put my clubs down to raise my kids, work, and support my wife as she through her battle with cancer. As I pickup my sticks and start to rebuild my game, I can afford this app. It will help me and many others to look at how I am striking the ball, helping me become consistent more quickly. Good players already know how far they hit the ball. I want to know how consistently I send a wedge 100yds out of 10 shots and how many times my driver is pushing the ball over 250 yds? This tool will give me that. I think you need to reconsider your findings and the app’s application to one’s golf game. Thanks for the great work you do. Dan
Saw this on SAS golf, as he said, it's not perfect but do you want to invest in the idea of getting launch monitors more affordable, YES I DO. So even with it's imperfections I think the app shows merit and I'm happy to and have spent the $$$ for the pro version to encourage the development of the app. I have used it on the driving range, it missed the odd shot, mostly lob wedge but 8 iron was bang on my 130-140 distance, driver was pretty much on the money as well. I wish all the best for the guys at Shot Vision ands thanks Rick for another great review.
I'd really love to see you review some other semi-budget launch monitors like the Flightscope MEVO and the Rapsodo MLM for golfers that are looking for a lot of data in the same price range as the Garmin!
I know he didn't recommend it but to me this analysis is a recommendation. To an amateur a nearly $19,000 price difference is huge, with the down side of being off some 10 yards occasionally. Its a solid product for an amateur - certainly not a professional - but for the masses great technological win. It is clear the price point is designed for the average golfer, the pros can pay the extra money. Great job by the creators of this app ... I will be buying it.
I might have a question however.... there is 2 type of trackman : one for an outside use and one for an indoor use only... you tested the app outside which required a much more sophisticated device... what about using this app indoor ? Is it making it more accurate ? Could be a good thing to know. Great video as always mate !! 😉
Rick you are being ridiculously picky! The distances were within 1-2%! That is absolutely amazing for something that has no special hardware and costs literally less than 1% of your main system. Unbelievable technology!
I know I’m super late but half way through I wanted to comment about spin rate: these cheaper shot monitors or in this case apps use a Doppler algorithm to extract speeds and angles. Doppler cannot extract spin rates. The algorithm uses a calculated spin angle and then runs some sort of regression to determine spin rate. This means spin rate is using your all of the Doppler estimates to make an even further estimate. Your uncertainty is going to be large and likely untrusted, but that is expected if you understand what the software is doing. A simple thing to note is that if your spin is high on the app, it’s probably high in real life too, if it’s close to normal it’s probably normal. Unless you drastically top the ball you shouldn’t get underestimates though, as your spin angle will most likely never be negative.
Thanks Rick for the great video! Would have been good if you'd sent one of your team on the fairway to measure the true carry distance (maybe the GC Quad is wrong sometimes?)
Would have loved to see a comparison on some different clubs. For example PW-7i-4i-D. I guess the precision will be the lowest on the most "extreme" shots, i.e wedge and driver shots. For most players I don't think the exact distance of the driver will be the most interesting thing to know. Where at least I would like to get a better understanding is how far I am actually hitting my irons, as these are the clubs I will use to get onto the green. Love your channel! Keep up the good work and stay safe. Greetings from Sweden.
Agree. I'm most interested in knowing if this is accurate for shorter distances. If I could spend the winter hitting into a net dialing in distances of 30-150 yards I would improve my game a lot. But since I'd be working on hitting exact distances vs just hitting a driver as far as possible, the accuracy of the launch monitor becomes more important to me. I know the distances of my clubs, so the value in a launch monitor to me is improving my accuracy and learning to hit specific distances. I don't even care if the app works with a driver. It's my irons and the approach game where I see the most potential here.
Unless you’re willing to drop some major coin, this is about as good as it gets. I had a Flightscope Mevo, and it was approx as accurate as this app, would miss shots and overall seemed short to what a trackman would give, and that was a $500 monitor. So for $7 a month, I can’t see this being a horrible investment.
the thing is, with it measuring 1000rpm+ the GCQ its basically useless.. I mean it might be fun for a high handicap hitting into a net at home tho.. Since they should be glad getting within 10y of their target i guess
I’ve noticed my missed shots are due to me hitting the ball off the camera line. That actually helps me focus on my swing path to make sure I get a good read. The app is not bad.
That is CRAZY how close this app is! Personally, if I'm going to worry about a launch monitor, then I'm going with the Mevo or SC300. Yeah, they are expensive, but do basically everything you would need them to do without going to a multi-thousand dollar device like the Mevo Plus, Trackman, or GC dual/quad. The additional benefit of the Mevo and SC300 is the ability to use them as simulators in the future. This is something that can be fun at home with friends.
Can you do a review on lower cost launch monitors? There are a couple between 50-250usd, or what would be an easier/better way to get your clubs distances and improvements based on your videos
The app relies on the frame rates on the camera which is currently 240 on iPhones so that’s why it struggles with driver. And because the golf ball is white it also needs a background that is contrasted so when you use it outside it’s best to not have the sky in shot (clouds) hence it may struggle with ur higher lofted clubs. Indoors is also no good as most people have white walls.
I would say the performance of the app varies greatly, depending on the phone and/or the camera options it has. Maybe iPhone 12 will do better with its new lidar sensors. Either way. Good video Rick.
Hmm, I think this review is a bit unfair. You compare a £20k reference tool, a £400 Garmin (which wasn't tested for accuracy) against something free or £7? I used it at the weekend and found it really useful. It was consistent enough across the irons, and for the driver I was able to get decent results that correlated with how I felt I hit it. There may be odd variations but as a free/£7 training aid, this is pretty hard to beat.
I wonder if it would be any better for a different level golfer? I feel it has potential since the club head speed was fairly accurate every time, but the spin was the thing that was off. I think that likely was the part of the equation causing it to be so inaccurate for you... I think that it likely has potential, but needs to be tweaked a bit to fit since it only is using the phone’s camera to analyze the swing data. I wonder if it’s the technology that needs to improve, or the distance equation/calculation from the data it collects? Likely a little of both, but it is a bit strange that the speed was right on and the spin was off. Makes me think it’s more accurate than we think
I'd love to see a more comprehensive test on this. Instead of just hitting a few balls, hit at least 500 balls using multiple clubs and compare the numbers to the GC Quad. Try indoors and outdoors. Also, the developer has said that inaccuracies can be caused by vibration and that putting a towel under the tripod helps so it would interesting to see if that helps or if putting a reflective dot on the ball helps.
To me, as a beginner player still developing the swing for more distance, I would not be too concerned about absolute lengths as long as they are consistent. All of my practice is done on range balls anyways, which are not representative when it comes to the lengths. Generally I just want to know if I improve or not. I would like swing path and attack angle if that would be possible as it is factors which needs to be checked for a beginner I believe.
I use this app and if you point the camera toward something black it will pick up the ball much better. My irons are pretty much spot on and wedges I raise my iPhone about a foot and it catches about 90% of my shots and again pretty much spot on. My 3 wood and driver are 10 yards short. I have a iPhone 7 so I’m sure the new iPhone pro will be much better since the cameras are so much better. I would definitely recommend getting this.
I’ve used this app a few times and working out the kinks. The shots that do not read are being hit out side of the camera line which a good indication that your swing path and strike are off. So it will make you focus on sending the ball on line. I used the app and then went to the SkyTrack bays at my driving range and the numbers where pretty close.
Hi Rick would love to hear your thoughts on the flightscope mevo I think its a nice bit of kit for the money would be good to see it against the GCQuad... Keep up the great work thanks man
What an awesome video most enjoyable with lots of laughs of break 75. Things will get better Rick and congratulations to guy on a stellar round. You guys are great together!
That’s the difference of £6.99 and £20k there’s obviously going to be a few flaws but then that’s to be expected... as everyone knows an app can be updated with new softwares which could potentially make it that little bit more accurate... If I had a choice of spending £6.99pm or £20k for some thing that does very similar things? I’d rather pay £6.99... let the haters hate 🤘😂
Thank you very much for this information. Launch monitors are expensive so a lot of us are looking for inexpensive options. The key is to get something accurate. If not, then you can’t be comfortable in your swing techniques. I have total confidence in what was discussed in this video so I’ll either wait for a better program that can be uploaded on an app or splurge and get something tested and true. Thanks again for your video
I have the app and I have done some gapping sessions with it and it will average out your shots and I’ve found that it actually comes pretty close to what i expected. Very surprising and helped me work on my inside 100yd game
@@vtonak7929 if that’s all you can do? Yes I recommend because it’s something as opposed to nothing. For example I got really into this when the courses were closed and I couldn’t go to the range. I would be careful if you struggle with large hooks or slices because it doesn’t tell you how offline you are so it could reinforce bad swings for consistent distance. Also I would only recommend it if you are looking on tightening up your short to mid sticks. Long irons and up get very iffy. But it is also way fun. There are little games like randomized distances and target modes.
Did anyone notice the tee jumping up, spinning and digging back into the ground at 8.24 (most impressive thing for me about this video), great shot Rick !
Hey Rick, it's a few months later, any thoughts on reviewing a few more of these Free/Cheap apps that's affordable to us weekend golfers? It would be great to know a bit more about the different apps out there and maybe seeing if one is more consistent than the others. Thank you!
Have downloaded this to give it a a try, have been using my Garmin Fenix 6 and the Garmin golf app that I have found to be really helpful. Occasional golfer, returned to the game after 16yrs, and along with a few lessons, your videos content and the Garmin i have managed to improve my game and get my handicap down, so looking forward to trying this app later this week
If it was decently accurate for the irons then it has lots of potential to help people play better golf. Knowing how far your irons go will make you a better player.
I am astonished that an app can get quite so close on the stats through a camera lens, remarkable engineering frankly and £7 versus £20,000 makes it even more remarkable. Very interesting video, I did not even know such apps were even available.
great review! just picked this one up myself, and paid for the 1-year. so far i'm pretty impressed. i'm no pro golfer and this gets the job done well enough where the averages that it comes up with get pretty close to being accurate. there is also a lot more to the app that you didn't cover.
I feel like this would be a great solution for getting a rough estimate of how far as me as an amateur can hit my clubs. If you were a pro or a really fantastic and experienced golfer I could see how you would want something more accurate. But for me as an amateur just really getting into it all and learning, I feel like this is a great thing to get the rough estimates of how far I can hit my clubs. Definitely better than at the local range trying to decide if a shot went between 150 or 250 yards from a couple of random signs out on the range lol
Rick, I think you blinded the phone with the sunset straight in to your phone lens, it would only see a black ball flying past. For me you need to do the test again at mid day🏌🏻♂️😎
I think you were to harsh on the app. I am a fairly new golfer, and seeing that I could pay for this simple app and get an estimate of where I am at to track my progress seems so worth it! I did the math, and to get 20,000 pounds worth of the app, it would take 500 years at 40 dollars a year! Pretty crazy in that perspective. NOTE: I realize if you are a professional and/or a dedicated hard core golfer then it would be feasible to spend money on professional equipment but I will be trying this app, as it amazed me in this video. Thank you for the review!
Great video. But I bet it woulda been more consistent if you set it up near your lead foot and a driver length away from the target line like they tell you to do in the setup instructions
Are you team iPhone or Android? PS what shall I review next?
Please can you paste the link to download the app
Hello
Android... I think it would help if you did a video on stingers. Could you also review golf shoes?
my swing? 🤣🤣
Team Android
I just wanted to say thank you Rick Shiels . My dad has been sick for a few years now and your videos give us a lot to talk about. We sent the video’s back and forth to each other. He loved your videos, always talking about your tips on the course. He passed away yesterday in peace. He loved watching you and now your videos will be something that always brings me joy to watch and think about my dad. Keep up the great work sir.
So sorry to hear about your dad. Deepest thoughts go to your family. Glad the videos helped you guys stay connected better
May your father rest in peace, it’s wonderful that today’s technology enabled you both to enjoy Ricks videos, be kind to yourself my friend God Bless
First of all deepest thoughts to you and your family aswell.
Secon this kind of gentlemanship is one of the things that got me instantaneously hooked to start playing golf.
Relly glad to have found your channel
R.I.P. 🕊️
The GC Quad has been lying about your distance this whole time 😂
This was brilliant thanks Rick. Did not expect to see this today but here we are! Love that you put us up against the GC and we found the accuracy on your wedges and irons very positive. We were a bit gutted that you based your conclusion on the Driver as we are working on improving dispersion and data accuracy in this area with guys like you hitting absolute bombs! Nonetheless, you have done us a solid and we appreciate you sharing the app with your viewers. Have a good one!
Did you have a problem that Rick put it behind him? My first reaction was wouldn't you put it in front so you have a more unobstructed view?
Please keep working on this app guys i love it but of course its not perfect, keep doing what you guys are doing and especilly with the new iphone having a new radar or detector of some sort it could possibly make this app a game changer!!
Keep up the great work Shot Vision. It looks like you’re getting very close. Hopefully the better cameras on the newer phone will help too. I’m sure there’s a huge prize for any app the can get get consistently within +/- 3% accuracy.
shot vision could u do a tutorial video on how to use it
@@ederv the tutorial is on their app I saw the notification of Ricks video on my phone so I checked it out and it pretty fun might have to spend $7 for the pro, have a great👍
Just a massive congrats to the company for creating something that is even remotely comparable. Great work guys. Only a matter of time
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Rick “I don’t know if it’s close enough”
Me: For seven dollars, it’s close enough
Exactly what I was thinking! Definitely worth it if you really want to track these stats for a cheaper price
Perfect comment.
Exactly, now I can afford to buy the app and a Honda civic Si
I'm not sure man. It's not the numbers it's the consistency that's an issue. If you really need a launch monitor, then investing in one of the affordable ones that give consistent readings would make more sense
@@Dunkinblownutzz_1 At least you know which general range you're in. It's one thing if it's telling you 150 yards, when you know you typically smoke 250-270
Appreciate the shout out Mate! Will definitely be interesting to see where this technology will be in 3 years or so! 🏌️♂️ ⛳️
It maybe here already with the iPhone 12. App developers need to catch up with the technology. 😁
You 100% deserve the credit you have been making great quality videos for ages big up to Rick for giving you more fans!!
your review is the reason i even knew about the app & paid for the full 1-year version - you should ask 'em for a cut ;)
Well here we are, 3 years in the future!
it's been 3 years and they have in fact updated the app, it works on iPhone XRs and later (so it's more backwards compatible than it was) and the phone now sits in front of you instead of behind your left heel. club head and ball speed are still free as are spin and launch - I haven't paid for it and I haven't taken it on course yet but from my first impressions I think they've done a good job incorporating feedback from various reviewers.
I'll be honest, when something is £19,995 cheaper than the alternative, even if it's 20 yards out, that's not a huge deal breaker. For an amateur golfer like me, a few yards here and there don't make a difference. I can see how Pros, who are the true pinnacle of their game will need a GCQ, but for the bumpkins like me who go round a course in 130 shots every week, the app is fine and tech will only get better.
You too?😂😂 your score gone down any? I’m still hitting 120-130 but I’ve only been golfing a month
@@Ricehatasian Nope! Still averaging 130. Threw the clubs in the garage about 5 weeks ago and aint even looked at them since! :D
@@terimartin1466 But if you are playing very poor beginner golf, knowing how fast/far you hit each club will help you select the proper clubs to work with in various situations. You can then work on consistency.
@@terimartin1466 lmfao
@@terimartin1466 I will have to agree. As a very poor golfer, distance for each club is far from my biggest issue. Consistency is by far my biggest issue.
Well done for crediting SAS and giving him the exposure - not everyone would have done so
SAS is awesome too! He's definitely in my rotation of all these UK golf guys I watch on youtube.
Stephen A Smith is a douche 😅
I have used the app in the past and I think that it is accurate enough for gapping for the average player. The gapping mode has you hit 30 shots, if you drop your three highest and three lowest (which you should be doing anyway when you gap), then average the rest your results will be very close. Great video but would have liked to see your results with the 7 iron and wedge as well.
Wish you would’ve done more testing for short and mid irons. I think that’s what most amateurs would benefit from.
As with all of the lower end launch monitors, it tends to be the extremes where they struggle ie sand wedge (high spin) and driver (distance & ball speed). It would have been nice to see how the distances compared on the mid irons etc.
8:24 that was really satisfying. Slo mo, quick feedback on the launch monitor, and the tee landed perfectly in the ground. Nice video rick!
Great video; as always. However, I thought it would have been nice to compare the irons (e.g. pitching and 7) against the GC Quad as well. I would imagine the numbers would much closer together in iron play with much slower swing speeds.
Rich I downloaded this at the weekend... I started hitting foam balls in the garden into a net... what I found was that you could work on your swing and instantly see speed and distant improvements.
I think it’s fairly stable up to a 7 iron (150 yards) and then errors creep with greater distances...
Amazing bit of tech using a phone.... it can only get better....
Is an issue if the field of view of the camera and Iphone's frames per second. That is why driver numbers were so off in this video. if phones ever get 1000 frames per second this will work!
This was brilliant thanks Rick. Did not expect to see this today but here we are! Love that you put us up against the GC and we found the accuracy on your wedges and irons very positive. We were a bit gutted that you based your conclusion on the Driver as we are working on improving dispersion and data accuracy in this area with guys like you hitting absolute bombs! Nonetheless, you have done us a solid and we appreciate you sharing the app with your viewers. Have a good one! 100%!
I'd like to see you walk down the fairway and get a actual range of the shots you hit as well. Then you could compare the accuracy of them both. Just because the quad is 20k doesn't mean its correct.
tons of people have done this, specifically with the GC Quad. Because it's 20k does mean its accurate in this case lol its in the single digit percents in terms of margin of error
I was thinking this the entire time also. Granted the 20k version most has more/better sensors, camera, and developmental testing, and all of it is hardware is controlled ( many different phones, and cameras could effect the measurement). I would have loved a spotter, measuring impact to verify the distance, as the 20k version may be wrong also unless it is full tracking the ball in flight, it is also just using a calculation like the phone.
The only thing GC Quad doesn't pick up is wind gusts and temperature. Balls don't fly in cold damp air.
There is a reason why GC quad and trackman are more accurate indoors. Let's say you hit a drive outside with them into the wind. Well the launch monitor will give it a carry and total distance much different based souly on weather and range conditions. They give you ideal numbers which is what everyone wants.
Correct - it might not be correct. I also think the shops selling clubs set these things up when you whang a ball in to a net so it appears you have hit further than you think. The readings I got on my last set of clubs were 20 yards longer than real life. 7 iron was 175 to 179 in the shop but reality is 155 to 160...
08:56 the peg flips in the air, gets stuck in the groud and lands the right way
I have this app and for a beginner hitting into a net, it makes all the difference. Even not being perfect, I can get feedback on what I am doing well and not. For $50/year US, it is a valuable tool for using at the house and learning my swing. As I progress I could see the inaccuracy becoming an issue, but hard to justify $500 on a portable launch monitor while learning to hit my clubs.
Does it look at the clubface on the moment of impact? Does it know whether you’ve hit the ball straight or not?
Rick, agree with you in almost all your vids, but I think your missing that 99.999% of golfers are not playing on tour, 9:24, I don't think a $7/mth app will ever be meant for the tour. For the avg golfer to get some indication of swing metrics can be a good learning and entertainment tool making range sessions more fun, I use a swing caddie sc300 myself, not 100% accurate but a lot of fun at the range or in a net and has helped with gapping and distance control, an app at $7/mth that gives you a glimpse, I think it's good value and worthwhile for enjoyment or to learn your own game....
I’m more interested on how this compares to something like the garmin product or other launch monitors that cost 200-400, that’s clearly the competition and not a 20k launch monitor. Kind of obvious which is better.
Not really. The GC quad is more expensive because of the club head data. Degress of club face at impact, club path etc. Whether it’s £20k or £2 the distance needs to be right, as no information is better than incorrect information.
@@Bonio84 Comparing the app to GC quad for overall accuracy makes sense but I've never seen a launch monitor that costs less then 500 that can compete with GC quad on distance information. I would be willing to bet the app reviewed might be better then some of the less expensive launch monitors out there and that would potentially save some of us money.
Its not a comparison between the gcq and the app. The gcq is for checking out if the numbers the app gave him are correct ore not. Thats all. it's not about whether the gcq is better than the app or not.
@@dixotv5586 I said I’d like to see it compared to budget launch monitors. I’d like to see how close the app is to the budget monitors that I know aren’t as accurate as GC quad as well but allot less expensive.
it's pretty much as accurate as the G80 based on the other reviews i've seen and my own personal experience. makes the G80 look like a total ripoff at $700 where i live (in Canada).
I found it accurate on all the wedges and irons. Rather than focusing on individual shots, you need to hit 20+ shots then delete the mis hits and results that are way off the average and the resulting figures and graph are pretty much bob on. Excellent app.
8:23 The tee landing back is always satisfying to watch.
well spotted ! i wish my tee's did that! they normally fly off into space and never come back
I’m in the instrumentation business, and what you’re describing is precision (repeatable answer) vs accuracy (right answer). Considering you don’t do instruments for a living, that was amazingly correct and insightful! If the measurement is REPEATABLE, maybe it’s less important that it’s wrong if it’s always wrong by the same amount!
Exactly my thoughts.... I say the same thing about using the top golf-style bays at the local range... People bitch and moan about using them to get an actual feel for numbers, but so long as the (off) numbers are consistent, I'm good with NOT paying $100+/hour on a launch monitor.. I mean... golf is a game of adjustment and compensation... If you're bitching on the 18th about a bad shot because "that's the yardage I was getting at top golf," you've got a lot to work on....
Literally getting twitter notifications for this video sitting there reloading ricks RUclips channel WAITING......
Rick, you should try this again with the iPad Pro! It has a cool new camera with LiDAR sensors
So nice to see you give a nod to Simon at SAS golf. Great channel that needs WAY more subs!!
Here I am looking into i-phone apps for golf and who pops up for a demo ride? My favorite RUclips golf instructor! Once again Rick, your objective views are most helpful, thanks...
Great video. Ive been wondering this for so long, very helpful.
Personally for me as a beginner, 5-20yds wrong, thats forgivable for £7.
Definitely more forgivable than me justifying £20,000 to the misses 😂
was thinking this too, as a beginner and a total noob, that low of a cost should still be ok. It's in the "general ball park" of what we as noobs need. "Didi I hit it almost the same every time?" is my main question :)
@@jorwul yep your only looking for consistency, and if you see your club and swing speed are generally consistent then the distance is not extremely important especiaaly for the smaall 7 dollar ammount ur paying
Fair play for shouting out Simon @ SAS Golf he is one of the best golf youtubers out there especially for beginners or folks looking to get into golf who might not have the money to spend on new clubs. 👍🏻
8:24 What a trickshot with the tee!
That was amazing
I'd love for Rick to do this again with the updates on the app.
I was really hoping to see more comparisons using the irons. A driver is going to be the hardest to calculate a good result, being the fastest and longest club. But if an app could somewhat achieve a decent result in irons 9-6/5 and wedges, it would definitely be interesting. And since you have a one of the best launch monitors money can buy, you would be able to show it.
I got this app during lockdown. It seemed to have real issues picking up slower swing speeds. It would only catch every third shot, and those that did read were very inconsistent. Also, my kid’s swings would never register. I read on line that hanging a black drop opposite your shot would help it read. While reading did improve, the numbers were still all over the place. After about two weeks, I put the cash for Garmin G80 (telling myself it was just reallocating the money I wasn’t spend playing golf) and was very impressed. Much more accurate and consistently reading shots. The games made practicing fun; and my kids also had a lot of fun with virtual rounds. All that combines with the on course GPS & post game analysts on through the app make this a worthwhile investment. Not saying $400 isn’t a lot, b/c it is. I’m just saying I don’t regret spending it.
You're almost literally comparing a Ford Fiesta with a Lamborghini Aventador... Of course they're not the same.
The app appears to do a job, it gives you some numbers to play with. It probably makes the range more fun.
$7 vs $20,000... Chalk and cheese springs to mind
Yeah, but the whole point of getting swing and launch data is to see what you are doing right or wrong....if the app just churns out such variable numbers then it’s not that useful. Certainly not worth nearly £100 a year!
You can't say that when the point of buying a launch monitor is to figure out your numbers, what's the point of using a launch monitor if it is going to give you false numbers? At that point it is obsolete.
@@picklechinahboy1 Because its £7 not £20000
@@mrb018538 was it THAT far off considering the price difference?
@@sonny2480 it did ok, but that’s only because Rick hits thousands of shots with that GC Quad and knows his yardages etc very accurately and he had a known comparison.
If Joe average went in blind with it, what would you compare it to? You’d be guessing at best. I know my yardages (roughly), I don’t think this app would help me out!
You mentioned the camera is what captures all of the data. I would like to point out that not all camera's are capable of capturing the same. In the event you have a phone such as the Samsung galaxy S20 (Android) which currently among the top best camera's for phones currently available... how big of a difference would there be? Thank you for the quality content! Simply inspiring!!
Might there be an update to the test video, seeing that it's 2 years ago? Thanks!
Great vid! I been golfing a little less than a year and learned so much from your channel. I also bought the 1 month subscription just to get an idea of my distances and also ran into inconsistencies. There are times when it doesn’t read anything at all just like in your video. Keep up the great material
Most of the budget launch monitors struggle catching spin with wedges and distance with drivers. I would be interested in seeing how accurate it was with typical irons that people use on the range. Pw and 7 iron.
As somebody who has just started golfing this year I'd have to say for under 20 dollars a month it is definitely worth it to give a ballpark range of where I can expect to land with any given club. It's a good budget friendly option for someone who is curious about the info given but doesnt want to spend a large amount to acquire that said information
The question I have is, since it uses the camera for the feature, would it be more accurate with a newer version phone, for example iPhone 12 vs iPhone X/8 since manufacturers claim better camera performance each product?
100% the technology would help but its up to the developers to update their app
Unless the camera can record more frames I don't see how a better picture would make the app more accurate. This is assuming without any evidence all apple devices are good enough to take pictures where the ball isn't a foggy mess.
Not entirely, however the iPhone 12 will have a LiDar sensor, which could be incorporated into an app like this and be wayyy more accurate than the camera on an iphone 11
In the video it looks like the sun is in front of you and your phone is behind you, pointing at the sun. If you were to put the sun behind the phone I bet the numbers would be more accurate and you would have less non read shots. Because the exposure for the camera would be more ideal.
Rick, I think you missed the point. I can’t afford the GC. I can’t afford small Garmin unit. I used to be an 8-10 handicap player, but put my clubs down to raise my kids, work, and support my wife as she through her battle with cancer. As I pickup my sticks and start to rebuild my game, I can afford this app. It will help me and many others to look at how I am striking the ball, helping me become consistent more quickly. Good players already know how far they hit the ball. I want to know how consistently I send a wedge 100yds out of 10 shots and how many times my driver is pushing the ball over 250 yds? This tool will give me that. I think you need to reconsider your findings and the app’s application to one’s golf game. Thanks for the great work you do. Dan
Can’t wait until the app is supporting the LIDAR Scanner on the iPhone 12. This might be a game changer.
Oh yes. The moment LIDAR is in play, these launch monitors are gonna really start feeling the heat.
Are they absolutely doing this?
@@Brandon_Carlisle if app developers don’t, then they are missing out on easy money
@@Rudgged i would easily buy if it incorporated the LIDAR in my pro
get ready with me or dont idk ruclips.net/video/NEONrgiZAPk/видео.html
Saw this on SAS golf, as he said, it's not perfect but do you want to invest in the idea of getting launch monitors more affordable, YES I DO. So even with it's imperfections I think the app shows merit and I'm happy to and have spent the $$$ for the pro version to encourage the development of the app. I have used it on the driving range, it missed the odd shot, mostly lob wedge but 8 iron was bang on my 130-140 distance, driver was pretty much on the money as well. I wish all the best for the guys at Shot Vision ands thanks Rick for another great review.
I'd really love to see you review some other semi-budget launch monitors like the Flightscope MEVO and the Rapsodo MLM for golfers that are looking for a lot of data in the same price range as the Garmin!
I know he didn't recommend it but to me this analysis is a recommendation. To an amateur a nearly $19,000 price difference is huge, with the down side of being off some 10 yards occasionally. Its a solid product for an amateur - certainly not a professional - but for the masses great technological win. It is clear the price point is designed for the average golfer, the pros can pay the extra money. Great job by the creators of this app ... I will be buying it.
I can’t wait for the in home simulators to get competitive so prices drop...
I might have a question however.... there is 2 type of trackman : one for an outside use and one for an indoor use only... you tested the app outside which required a much more sophisticated device... what about using this app indoor ? Is it making it more accurate ? Could be a good thing to know.
Great video as always mate !! 😉
Rick you are being ridiculously picky! The distances were within 1-2%! That is absolutely amazing for something that has no special hardware and costs literally less than 1% of your main system. Unbelievable technology!
I know I’m super late but half way through I wanted to comment about spin rate: these cheaper shot monitors or in this case apps use a Doppler algorithm to extract speeds and angles. Doppler cannot extract spin rates. The algorithm uses a calculated spin angle and then runs some sort of regression to determine spin rate. This means spin rate is using your all of the Doppler estimates to make an even further estimate. Your uncertainty is going to be large and likely untrusted, but that is expected if you understand what the software is doing. A simple thing to note is that if your spin is high on the app, it’s probably high in real life too, if it’s close to normal it’s probably normal. Unless you drastically top the ball you shouldn’t get underestimates though, as your spin angle will most likely never be negative.
rick you’re my favorite! i love your content thank you
Thanks Rick for the great video! Would have been good if you'd sent one of your team on the fairway to measure the true carry distance (maybe the GC Quad is wrong sometimes?)
Would have loved to see a comparison on some different clubs. For example PW-7i-4i-D. I guess the precision will be the lowest on the most "extreme" shots, i.e wedge and driver shots. For most players I don't think the exact distance of the driver will be the most interesting thing to know. Where at least I would like to get a better understanding is how far I am actually hitting my irons, as these are the clubs I will use to get onto the green.
Love your channel! Keep up the good work and stay safe.
Greetings from Sweden.
Agree. I'm most interested in knowing if this is accurate for shorter distances. If I could spend the winter hitting into a net dialing in distances of 30-150 yards I would improve my game a lot. But since I'd be working on hitting exact distances vs just hitting a driver as far as possible, the accuracy of the launch monitor becomes more important to me. I know the distances of my clubs, so the value in a launch monitor to me is improving my accuracy and learning to hit specific distances. I don't even care if the app works with a driver. It's my irons and the approach game where I see the most potential here.
Unless you’re willing to drop some major coin, this is about as good as it gets. I had a Flightscope Mevo, and it was approx as accurate as this app, would miss shots and overall seemed short to what a trackman would give, and that was a $500 monitor. So for $7 a month, I can’t see this being a horrible investment.
the thing is, with it measuring 1000rpm+ the GCQ its basically useless.. I mean it might be fun for a high handicap hitting into a net at home tho.. Since they should be glad getting within 10y of their target i guess
I’ve noticed my missed shots are due to me hitting the ball off the camera line. That actually helps me focus on my swing path to make sure I get a good read. The app is not bad.
That is CRAZY how close this app is!
Personally, if I'm going to worry about a launch monitor, then I'm going with the Mevo or SC300. Yeah, they are expensive, but do basically everything you would need them to do without going to a multi-thousand dollar device like the Mevo Plus, Trackman, or GC dual/quad.
The additional benefit of the Mevo and SC300 is the ability to use them as simulators in the future. This is something that can be fun at home with friends.
My parents bought me a Garmin 80. I was so Happy!!!
How to you like the Garmin 80?
@Bill Morton its fricking GREAT
What stats do you get from it?
Can you do a review on lower cost launch monitors? There are a couple between 50-250usd, or what would be an easier/better way to get your clubs distances and improvements based on your videos
40% of the time, it works every time.
The app relies on the frame rates on the camera which is currently 240 on iPhones so that’s why it struggles with driver. And because the golf ball is white it also needs a background that is contrasted so when you use it outside it’s best to not have the sky in shot (clouds) hence it may struggle with ur higher lofted clubs. Indoors is also no good as most people have white walls.
I would say the performance of the app varies greatly, depending on the phone and/or the camera options it has. Maybe iPhone 12 will do better with its new lidar sensors.
Either way. Good video Rick.
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@@hsbdbsjsjebbdbsbsb370you don’t know what lidar sensors are do you?
Could you do more detailed review of wedges and shorter irons? Think most people would get value from accurate yardage for iron play
Interested to see how these stack up next to GC Quad
I am literally on my way to the golf range. Great timing Rick!
What does it feel like to be on a "way"? I mean, if you are literally on your way! What is a 'way' anyway? Can Rick review one of those too?
That's why I love this guy ....honest thx for everything bud just plum enjoy watching you
Hmm, I think this review is a bit unfair. You compare a £20k reference tool, a £400 Garmin (which wasn't tested for accuracy) against something free or £7? I used it at the weekend and found it really useful. It was consistent enough across the irons, and for the driver I was able to get decent results that correlated with how I felt I hit it. There may be odd variations but as a free/£7 training aid, this is pretty hard to beat.
I wonder if it would be any better for a different level golfer? I feel it has potential since the club head speed was fairly accurate every time, but the spin was the thing that was off. I think that likely was the part of the equation causing it to be so inaccurate for you... I think that it likely has potential, but needs to be tweaked a bit to fit since it only is using the phone’s camera to analyze the swing data. I wonder if it’s the technology that needs to improve, or the distance equation/calculation from the data it collects? Likely a little of both, but it is a bit strange that the speed was right on and the spin was off. Makes me think it’s more accurate than we think
I'd love to see a more comprehensive test on this. Instead of just hitting a few balls, hit at least 500 balls using multiple clubs and compare the numbers to the GC Quad. Try indoors and outdoors. Also, the developer has said that inaccuracies can be caused by vibration and that putting a towel under the tripod helps so it would interesting to see if that helps or if putting a reflective dot on the ball helps.
To me, as a beginner player still developing the swing for more distance, I would not be too concerned about absolute lengths as long as they are consistent. All of my practice is done on range balls anyways, which are not representative when it comes to the lengths. Generally I just want to know if I improve or not. I would like swing path and attack angle if that would be possible as it is factors which needs to be checked for a beginner I believe.
I have this app and haven’t been able to use it! So glad that you confirmed that it was pretty accurate!
What's name of the app
@@tomdotson6053 shot vision
I use this app and if you point the camera toward something black it will pick up the ball much better. My irons are pretty much spot on and wedges I raise my iPhone about a foot and it catches about 90% of my shots and again pretty much spot on. My 3 wood and driver are 10 yards short. I have a iPhone 7 so I’m sure the new iPhone pro will be much better since the cameras are so much better. I would definitely recommend getting this.
Review the Rapsodo launch monitor?
I’ve used this app a few times and working out the kinks. The shots that do not read are being hit out side of the camera line which a good indication that your swing path and strike are off. So it will make you focus on sending the ball on line. I used the app and then went to the SkyTrack bays at my driving range and the numbers where pretty close.
Hi Rick would love to hear your thoughts on the flightscope mevo I think its a nice bit of kit for the money would be good to see it against the GCQuad... Keep up the great work thanks man
What an awesome video most enjoyable with lots of laughs of break 75. Things will get better Rick and congratulations to guy on a stellar round. You guys are great together!
That’s the difference of £6.99 and £20k there’s obviously going to be a few flaws but then that’s to be expected... as everyone knows an app can be updated with new softwares which could potentially make it that little bit more accurate... If I had a choice of spending £6.99pm or £20k for some thing that does very similar things? I’d rather pay £6.99... let the haters hate 🤘😂
Thank you very much for this information. Launch monitors are expensive so a lot of us are looking for inexpensive options.
The key is to get something accurate. If not, then you can’t be comfortable in your swing techniques.
I have total confidence in what was discussed in this video so I’ll either wait for a better program that can be uploaded on an app or splurge and get something tested and true.
Thanks again for your video
I'm so disappointed, I was hoping for an accurate monitor that I could afford! Thank you so much for testing this for us poor people! 😆
Watch Simon's interview with the developers. Us poor people really aren't that far away from this tech doing what QCquad does.
This video is good though. It's not quite there but it's starting to get very close. If it can start getting within 5 yards we will all take that.
Thanks for this comment. Now I know not to get it without even needing to see how bad it is.
I'd say the cheapest you can go would be the Garmin G80, and that is within 2%-3% accuracy of GC Quad, and you get a golf GPS with it too.
@@MrNgMichael Thanks for that but it's stil a bit pricey for me!
I have never learned so much about golf from one person in one day. Thank you so much
8:25 can we all look the fact that his tee landed
8:24 that was really satisfying. Slo mo, quick feedback on the launch monitor, and the tee landed perfectly in the ground. Nice video rick!
How about distances with irons and wedges? We’re they accurate with the phone launch monitor?
@AJ Mac incorrect, he was using the free version for the irons and wedges so he was not getting the distances
@AJ Mac looking to see how the wedges and iron stats look with the paid version. He only showed how the paid version works with the driver.
I have the app and I have done some gapping sessions with it and it will average out your shots and I’ve found that it actually comes pretty close to what i expected. Very surprising and helped me work on my inside 100yd game
@@derekbatt63 thanks! So you recommend in purchasing?
@@vtonak7929 if that’s all you can do? Yes I recommend because it’s something as opposed to nothing. For example I got really into this when the courses were closed and I couldn’t go to the range. I would be careful if you struggle with large hooks or slices because it doesn’t tell you how offline you are so it could reinforce bad swings for consistent distance. Also I would only recommend it if you are looking on tightening up your short to mid sticks. Long irons and up get very iffy. But it is also way fun. There are little games like randomized distances and target modes.
8:24 that was really satisfying. Slo mo, quick feedback on the launch monitor, and the tee landed perfectly in the ground. Nice video rick!
The new iPad has lidar, might improve the accuracy in the app.
so in order to not pay 500 dollars for a launch monitor, you can pay 500 dollars for an ipad and download an app to make it a launch monitor
@E Olson iphone 12 pro has it now aswell btw
New iPhone 12 as well.
@@BuckeyeFanATW you can do a lot more on an ipad than that silly little garmin device can’t you 😂
@@BuckeyeFanATW The new iPad Pro cost $1000 and what @Shortinho99 said.
Did anyone notice the tee jumping up, spinning and digging back into the ground at 8.24 (most impressive thing for me about this video), great shot Rick !
Hey Rick, it's a few months later, any thoughts on reviewing a few more of these Free/Cheap apps that's affordable to us weekend golfers? It would be great to know a bit more about the different apps out there and maybe seeing if one is more consistent than the others. Thank you!
Have downloaded this to give it a a try, have been using my Garmin Fenix 6 and the Garmin golf app that I have found to be really helpful. Occasional golfer, returned to the game after 16yrs, and along with a few lessons, your videos content and the Garmin i have managed to improve my game and get my handicap down, so looking forward to trying this app later this week
I want to see the quad checked with a wheel or tape in the real world.
YES !!!!
If it was decently accurate for the irons then it has lots of potential to help people play better golf. Knowing how far your irons go will make you a better player.
I really want a launch monitor but don’t know which one to go with
Sky track
Flightscope Mevo + another option which looks a little better and slightly cheaper than Skytrak
PRGR is a great start if your looking for something inexpensive. I find it very accurate. $200
SkyTrak
All comes down to budget. What is your budget?
I am astonished that an app can get quite so close on the stats through a camera lens, remarkable engineering frankly and £7 versus £20,000 makes it even more remarkable. Very interesting video, I did not even know such apps were even available.
when you realize you can just calculate the carry distance using the ball speed and launch angle :O
How
Well no you can't, spin also makes a huge difference.
great review! just picked this one up myself, and paid for the 1-year. so far i'm pretty impressed. i'm no pro golfer and this gets the job done well enough where the averages that it comes up with get pretty close to being accurate. there is also a lot more to the app that you didn't cover.
Can you do a video where you compare different launch monitor apps and recommend the best/most accurate one??? Would be helpfull!
I feel like this would be a great solution for getting a rough estimate of how far as me as an amateur can hit my clubs. If you were a pro or a really fantastic and experienced golfer I could see how you would want something more accurate. But for me as an amateur just really getting into it all and learning, I feel like this is a great thing to get the rough estimates of how far I can hit my clubs. Definitely better than at the local range trying to decide if a shot went between 150 or 250 yards from a couple of random signs out on the range lol
If you accept the numbers for what they are on the App - you can then track relative improvement from those numbers
Rick, I think you blinded the phone with the sunset straight in to your phone lens, it would only see a black ball flying past. For me you need to do the test again at mid day🏌🏻♂️😎
I was expecting this to come out inevitability. Happy it did.
Hey rick, I’m a golfer that just loves the sport. I love playing golf and you helped a lot!! Thanks rick!
I think you were to harsh on the app. I am a fairly new golfer, and seeing that I could pay for this simple app and get an estimate of where I am at to track my progress seems so worth it! I did the math, and to get 20,000 pounds worth of the app, it would take 500 years at 40 dollars a year! Pretty crazy in that perspective. NOTE: I realize if you are a professional and/or a dedicated hard core golfer then it would be feasible to spend money on professional equipment but I will be trying this app, as it amazed me in this video. Thank you for the review!
Great video. But I bet it woulda been more consistent if you set it up near your lead foot and a driver length away from the target line like they tell you to do in the setup instructions