As much as I loved SH and Crusader, that much I hated these custom maps for multiplayer. Completely destroying the castle building experience that the game was supposed to offer..
it was made to minimize the lag because the player theres is just one straight line of walls to defend as for the economy it's mostly unchanged, just the layout for farms and stone plus iron.. also there can be spectators, up to like 6 people can watch as they have unreachable keeps
@Blood Tatar That doesn't matter the unbalanced units are available for all players, so it's fair and these maps actually disable catapults, mangonels and balistas that are seen as overpowered
@@beardsntools just cause all players can do it doesnt matter. Stronghold is abyssmal in MP, which is why it never got an interesting online scene. Its not even 5% of the complexity as AoE2, and everyone just abuses the same boring shit. Shields, horse archers, etc its stupid. It is BEYOND Me why they never implemented actual unit modifiers like spearmen being useful vs horses or that kind of stuff that virtually every other strategy game has. Bottom line, stronghold is not meant for MP. It simply doesnt have enough variety in viable tactics to make it any interesting and the skill ceiling is waaaaaaay too low.
@@Felix-tp8ch exactly. Stronghold was Always a Single Player Castle build game and Then just destroy the Computer with mass of cool units. Thats what Stronghold always has been
Multiplayer in this game is terrible, no fun castle building gameplay, only absolute sweats in the lobbys, they all just rush which is not fun at all. Therefore I either play mp with a friend or i play singleplayer
In Vanilla, bakers despawn if they don't find the flour in their original desired stockpile slot, they targeted on walking to the stockpile. Which is really bad. Also there is a bug too where one baker can empty all flour from the stockpile without taking any to his bakery. These things are all fixed with UCP ^^ (Shameless selfpromotion!)
@@lordhuhnerfutter9191 bootstrap gameplay familiar to Crusader2. Finally my opponent create "Huge army of... 30 macemen" :D. And NOTHING changed when sweat boys playing. As usually HA + Shield. And catapult 100g (ONE HUNDRED) only - ahhahha. Bootstrap creator just madman without imagination about balance and gamedesign. Nothing to say.
Typical online match: Unlimited res maps, Population\Taxes bugs abuse, Shields, Horse Archers, Catapults. Sometimes you can see Knights, Assassins, Crossbowmen.
I don't really understand your "unlimited", I am pretty sure that in this kind of maps the opponents have the same quantity of resources (2 iron and 2 stone some grass etc), as in default ones I can say yeah, a good spam of quarries.
It is, especially with Mods that have better AI's than the classic ones Stronghold just has so much options to share Ressources and Gold which kinda supports teamplay Played with my Cousin and a friend against a Hackerman AI, sat there for hours since Hackerman basically insta builds a castle, doesnt need Eco, has infinite Gold and spams tons of Units . Was building the entire Eco while my Friend build our defense and my cousin our army. That was good fun indeed!
i wish there was an official online multiplayer option for this game its my most favorite strategy game, its not as complex and stressful as age of empires, but complex enough to have fun in the game
damn, if a mastermind of stronghold crusader like you are lose, then i would play like a bot at online match lol. Would love to see these online match more, please
Ah, the joys of vanilla PT MP on flat "empty" maps... spam-click bread and other eco during PT, struggle to mass-construct shields, then HA+shield+catapult micro the shit out of your opponent until he resigns... I mean, there's certainly some skill involved there, but I never liked those empty maps and most units being irrelevant altogether. So for future MP videos, I'd love seeing some bootstrap games again (i.e. cool maps, 0 start gold, 0 PT) - with or without the bootstrap rebalance on top - to see some more varied gameplay with early trash spam, rushes, strategic terrain usage, non-standard eco builds, etc.
The observer guy wanted me to place my stockpile closer to the farmlands (Watch the first few seconds of the video, that's him playing) He was right though, it increases your production by a LOT
@@Jefflenious Yeah it sure does lol.That's what I always do:First place down a wheat farm,saving as much oasis space as I possibly can,and then putting a stockpile adjacent to it.With this simple trick I can feed 100 people on neutral fear factor,and 200 on maximum negative fear factor lol,and still have food left over to sell;)
I remember this, when online match use gameranger, 5 min rush speed 60 and no cat,no ballista, and wasting my time just build 1v1 map, 2v2 map and 3v3 map greet from Indonesia, INA_EMIRHAMZA
I remember playing my first online match. The guy I was playing with had lots more experience playing online but he just spammed archers and towers and thats it, didnt really knew much of the mechanics. So yeah instead of fighting, I just taught him economy and how to make seige equipment and how to attack. Happy memories right there.
Hey..when i install UCP in stronghold folder,then after installation my stronghold icon from where i start the game just dissappears..please help me solve this problem..
will do again next Saturday, mark my words :D Happy to set you up with the bootstrap setup. We (i guess i speak for the UCP community here) have our own rebalance, since we foudn the vanilla balance became stale after a while with too many horsearchers, shields and always the spam of eco until a clashing fight.
i think you dont know the secret of copy troops type on 1 to 0 numbers... all you need is to select any type of troops like shiel and the press ctrl+1 . and the whenever you will press 1 those shields will automatically selected. and you can save hourses one number 2 . and so on
Let's start a thread on how to make Multiplayer better. Here are my 2 cents: 1. There is an option to make fortifications stronger. It should always be on. 2. Limit the amount of catapults. 3. Reduce the range of horse archers and crossbow men.
I hate the delay in selecting troops for online matches. I have to wait like 3 or 4 whole seconds just to keep the selected group number toggled on ctrl + number. It might help, but setting rally points constantly at different spots for assassins can work in some situations, since they move really fast moving to rally point.
@@Ugh718 it doesn't say how to set rally points, but to set rally points simply open the barracks or mercenary post and press number keys(1-7) for which unit you want to use and click in the map where you want them to rally to. Number 1 key will be archers for barrack or slaves for mercenary post and so on
@@Jefflenious yeah it makes sense if it's early game. But looking at 0:01 and 0:17 (they actually made the apple farms last), also 19:18 it seems like they wanna keep it even in late game. It's just weird to me feels like I'm missing some pro strats
Can you tell me how you go to online match while ucp, is it gameranger? Also, did you install the game via steam or pirated it? I want to play sith my friend (i know we have to be same version)
I'm using the steam version but I'm pretty sure they are all the same Yeah I used gameranger with no UCP. If you wanna play with a friend you're supposed to have to exact same UCP settings on both players. Check out UCP's github page for more info on how to play online!
This min max crap makes this game look boring AF. I've played Stronghold for like 20 years I love the game and I love the tutorial videos you make but for me I think I'll just stick to building epic castles against AI rather than a single wall with 4 types of combat unit against a player.
Map link?
stronghold.heavengames.com/downloads/showfile.php?fileid=8079
@@Jefflenious thanks
Working 1.4 ?
As much as I loved SH and Crusader, that much I hated these custom maps for multiplayer. Completely destroying the castle building experience that the game was supposed to offer..
it was made to minimize the lag because the player theres is just one straight line of walls to defend as for the economy it's mostly unchanged, just the layout for farms and stone plus iron.. also there can be spectators, up to like 6 people can watch as they have unreachable keeps
@Blood Tatar That doesn't matter the unbalanced units are available for all players, so it's fair and these maps actually disable catapults, mangonels and balistas that are seen as overpowered
@@beardsntools just cause all players can do it doesnt matter. Stronghold is abyssmal in MP, which is why it never got an interesting online scene. Its not even 5% of the complexity as AoE2, and everyone just abuses the same boring shit. Shields, horse archers, etc its stupid. It is BEYOND Me why they never implemented actual unit modifiers like spearmen being useful vs horses or that kind of stuff that virtually every other strategy game has.
Bottom line, stronghold is not meant for MP. It simply doesnt have enough variety in viable tactics to make it any interesting and the skill ceiling is waaaaaaay too low.
@@Felix-tp8ch exactly. Stronghold was Always a Single Player Castle build game and Then just destroy the Computer with mass of cool units. Thats what Stronghold always has been
Multiplayer in this game is terrible, no fun castle building gameplay, only absolute sweats in the lobbys, they all just rush which is not fun at all.
Therefore I either play mp with a friend or i play singleplayer
In Vanilla, bakers despawn if they don't find the flour in their original desired stockpile slot, they targeted on walking to the stockpile. Which is really bad. Also there is a bug too where one baker can empty all flour from the stockpile without taking any to his bakery. These things are all fixed with UCP ^^
(Shameless selfpromotion!)
Hey Krari, when will there be another bootstrap?🥰
@@simonlenoir1549 bootstrap so mad trash. Man, i read balance changelog.... shame.
I love it! Its Pro Gaming!
@@AMD_7900 It finally has a balance in its gameplay. You need strategy to play efficient. I think that are good changes...
@@lordhuhnerfutter9191 bootstrap gameplay familiar to Crusader2. Finally my opponent create "Huge army of... 30 macemen" :D. And NOTHING changed when sweat boys playing. As usually HA + Shield. And catapult 100g (ONE HUNDRED) only - ahhahha. Bootstrap creator just madman without imagination about balance and gamedesign. Nothing to say.
Weird to see a master of stronghold crusader to lose. But dont give up. And thanks for upload!
why he didint build hoops farm ?
You just spoil the whole video
That ninja hide inside horsemen swarm is genius🤣😂🤣
wow its good to see online match after a long time...
Typical online match: Unlimited res maps, Population\Taxes bugs abuse, Shields, Horse Archers, Catapults. Sometimes you can see Knights, Assassins, Crossbowmen.
I don't enjoy them either
I don't really understand your "unlimited", I am pretty sure that in this kind of maps the opponents have the same quantity of resources (2 iron and 2 stone some grass etc), as in default ones I can say yeah, a good spam of quarries.
@@valeriozambon7844 stone trading efficient too much. Especially with 'stone-teleporting' bug.
well yes...but in standard pop maps you can't base all your economy to 2 stones :)
Horse archer spam is the reason I only play Stronghold 1 lol
Daamn, its seems like very fun series :D Looking forward for more.
I'm so glad that people still play this masterpiece!!
wonderful battle. the result doesnt matter man🙂
Ahh placing shields 1 by 1 was a pain, luckily UCP fixes that. But that all over the place building placements hurts my eyes xd
True, it's such a pain to place them down one by one again lol
Holy shit... that had to be the most devious assassin trap EVER!
17:50
That trick with assassins was really well played. An outstanding move by your opponent which lost you the game. I miss multiplayer.
I think it's fun playing with one player and a crap ton of bots against you I find that fun and challenging
It is, especially with Mods that have better AI's than the classic ones
Stronghold just has so much options to share Ressources and Gold which kinda supports teamplay
Played with my Cousin and a friend against a Hackerman AI, sat there for hours since Hackerman basically insta builds a castle, doesnt need Eco, has infinite Gold and spams tons of Units .
Was building the entire Eco while my Friend build our defense and my cousin our army. That was good fun indeed!
Not the narrator mocking you at 18:14 after you told your opponent that you're behind in eco and the well done ambush at 17:54 😭😂
i wish there was an official online multiplayer option for this game
its my most favorite strategy game, its not as complex and stressful as age of empires, but complex enough to have fun in the game
Hopefully they will make a definitive edition of crusader and revamp the online play
I love this default nick of your opponent from Polish version. Btw. You should sleep most workers at the end of the peace time and collect max taxes.
damn, if a mastermind of stronghold crusader like you are lose, then i would play like a bot at online match lol. Would love to see these online match more, please
Why they are shit... No rush is garbage. Let people figure out how to defend rush instead of preventing them
Online shc is a different beast totally , there are top experts so strong that can crush other top experts like flies , I know..
Ah, the joys of vanilla PT MP on flat "empty" maps... spam-click bread and other eco during PT, struggle to mass-construct shields, then HA+shield+catapult micro the shit out of your opponent until he resigns... I mean, there's certainly some skill involved there, but I never liked those empty maps and most units being irrelevant altogether.
So for future MP videos, I'd love seeing some bootstrap games again (i.e. cool maps, 0 start gold, 0 PT) - with or without the bootstrap rebalance on top - to see some more varied gameplay with early trash spam, rushes, strategic terrain usage, non-standard eco builds, etc.
lots of empty games on yt. u know some great matches?
@@hamzasevencan7579 wdym?
What was it with the stockpile and the wheat? Move it closer together? But it didn't look like he had it close, or am i blind?
The observer guy wanted me to place my stockpile closer to the farmlands (Watch the first few seconds of the video, that's him playing)
He was right though, it increases your production by a LOT
@@Jefflenious Yeah it sure does lol.That's what I always do:First place down a wheat farm,saving as much oasis space as I possibly can,and then putting a stockpile adjacent to it.With this simple trick I can feed 100 people on neutral fear factor,and 200 on maximum negative fear factor lol,and still have food left over to sell;)
This game was a big part of my childhood. Fun times. I still listen to the music often.
Lol I still play the game myself(I still have the game because I transferred it to a usb stick from my old computer on my new laptop,sooo,yeah)
Yes, please play more of these online games. Offline are cool as well, but I also really enjoy watching these
About time someone made this video
I subbed because I am interested in stronghold online .
7:20 you got me here
I remember this, when online match use gameranger, 5 min rush speed 60 and no cat,no ballista, and wasting my time just build 1v1 map, 2v2 map and 3v3 map greet from Indonesia, INA_EMIRHAMZA
Of course we are interested. Do more !
How could you loose ? I thought you are unbeatable
Good luck on future matches
I remember playing my first online match. The guy I was playing with had lots more experience playing online but he just spammed archers and towers and thats it, didnt really knew much of the mechanics. So yeah instead of fighting, I just taught him economy and how to make seige equipment and how to attack. Happy memories right there.
Pls more, especially with google voice, its hilarious
Bro gameranger shows your internet is behind nat router please make a video on how to fix that error bcz i wanted to play this online.
Hey..when i install UCP in stronghold folder,then after installation my stronghold icon from where i start the game just dissappears..please help me solve this problem..
We are interested absolutely!
I would really like a series
The map looks like the start of Age of Empires Map.
10:07 i hate to click every time when i want to make shields
but no one is fixing this :(
It is awesome ! I would like if it was commentary , it would be the cherry on top
Can you make a video about how to play pop ?
He kept using Turan attacks ....he is so smart and patience
Damn you should have used some killing pits or pitch against that shield wall ;)
Please do more man!, hell I'll get on to play with you too 😁
Did you know that you can tax the water pot workers as much as you want because they are emergency buildings and will never leave?
Even in 0 popularity
Lol that sounds busted
I still play Stronghold Crusader Online from Game Ranger
Hi, do you play in gameranger?
What is your version of game?
Yeah I use gameranger, currently on v1.41
@@Jefflenious Great I am also 1.41v, it would be nice to play some day together.
Nice match!
Jeff vs Udwin next 👀
0:00 how to make this voice
can you tell me. what speech to talk that are you using?..
I don’t know how to play together in steam can someone help me?
Are there any people who stream stronghold crusader online matches?
Some UCP guys do it yeah, krarilotus does it every once in a while
Also GRhin used to cast matches too, not sure if he's still around
will do again next Saturday, mark my words :D Happy to set you up with the bootstrap setup. We (i guess i speak for the UCP community here) have our own rebalance, since we foudn the vanilla balance became stale after a while with too many horsearchers, shields and always the spam of eco until a clashing fight.
@@Krarilotus subscribed to your channel mate. Hopefully you'll live stream it 😊
also some local clans as wild legion or the great knights...they are more experts in this
@@valeriozambon7844 Wild Legion clan still plays on v1.1 with all the bugs of the game. They often
This is the ideal stronghold crusader build. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
No I don't like it
Mostly the prefab map
Yeah. But the peak performance is so weird. I know how to play it, but still, its not fun not playing with proper castle.
i think you dont know the secret of copy troops type on 1 to 0 numbers... all you need is to select any type of troops like shiel and the press ctrl+1 . and the whenever you will press 1 those shields will automatically selected. and you can save hourses one number 2 . and so on
keep up the goodwork
Let's start a thread on how to make Multiplayer better.
Here are my 2 cents:
1. There is an option to make fortifications stronger. It should always be on.
2. Limit the amount of catapults.
3. Reduce the range of horse archers and crossbow men.
I hate the delay in selecting troops for online matches. I have to wait like 3 or 4 whole seconds just to keep the selected group number toggled on ctrl + number. It might help, but setting rally points constantly at different spots for assassins can work in some situations, since they move really fast moving to rally point.
Yeah but most people don't even know that u can set rally points in this game,nor how.I myself am one of those people lol
@@Ugh718 it doesn't say how to set rally points, but to set rally points simply open the barracks or mercenary post and press number keys(1-7) for which unit you want to use and click in the map where you want them to rally to. Number 1 key will be archers for barrack or slaves for mercenary post and so on
Online Stronghold Opponent is more Hard than Fighting Wolf.
Why'd you surrender at the end like that and why not just play on normal maps?
I had no chance at winning, he had the army advantage
And this is one of the more popular maps online, Whatever the host says I guess!
@@Jefflenious ggs
Hi bro big fan! Can you tell me how to plants engineering huts simultaneously with reclicking it plz
How to play this game online? , I used to get it on steam but no mp on steam
You need to use gameranger (Video tomorrow!)
First
thats not fair.
First
Literally first match after 10 years
Are there people playing online? I wanna start
Yeah there are always a few people playing online, and there's also the bootstrap community who play a modded version of the game online!
well that went much better than my first time
Why do they build apple farms? What's the point?
A few apple farms are nice before the bread production starts working! Otherwise you'd usually run out of food
@@Jefflenious yeah it makes sense if it's early game. But looking at 0:01 and 0:17 (they actually made the apple farms last), also 19:18 it seems like they wanna keep it even in late game. It's just weird to me feels like I'm missing some pro strats
Yes, definitely interested in online matches!
Can you tell me how you go to online match while ucp, is it gameranger? Also, did you install the game via steam or pirated it? I want to play sith my friend (i know we have to be same version)
I'm using the steam version but I'm pretty sure they are all the same
Yeah I used gameranger with no UCP. If you wanna play with a friend you're supposed to have to exact same UCP settings on both players. Check out UCP's github page for more info on how to play online!
Old days where gold days.
its stronghold, people of culture are always interested, go on mate
Hi i m from Greece. Is there a community on steam or on discord that still play the game
I like your videos keep up
Nice, I would love to play multiplayer too but I have no friends which play stronghold :((
you have 1.4?;-;
@@utachelux9590 wdym, like version?
@@Trillatt yes. Version
Damn, online Stronghold is brutal
No it's not, I have been play more than worst than this
what do you mean with Vanilla?
What is this ruleset??
ive literally never played an online match... imma get killed so hard when definitive comes out
I love stronghold crusader and i am in last mission
This is fire
You should face mighty El Nutello i Think.
1:35:Making among us memes in sc i see XD
gratulacje, jesteś niesamowity
That's cool and all but there's still no tutorial for doing multiplayer mode
Alright that's it, coming up next..
@@Jefflenious Salvation at last
Online patch? Pls friend
Welcome to online play!!!!!!
if this is what online games play like, i dont want it
Awesome ❤
Yes i am very interested
how do i play online too? pls tell.
Back in the day when I wanted to find lobbies for SHC Online, I'd use GameRanger. I'm sure there's still people using that as well.
@@vanni44 thanks. i am now finally playing it online lol not like offline i can say thanks so much
why not a normal map?
Bro you played amazing but the assassin move was awesome. Bro you are a pro but still can't win then I have 0 % chance to win 😅
Hey i been playing for many years , do u wanna do 1vs1 mybe?
I really love Stronghold, but watching this explains farly quickly why Age of empires is played in competitive tournaments and stronghold is not^^
i want to play with you
Lol that guy at the end saying that junk about stockpile when you have excess wheat anyway so it doesnt matter.
More please M'lord
Please make tutorial how to play online
WOOD NEEDED
Why would you make knights?
one of the best units in game
Hey guys can we make a group of this game players
Do tutorial on how to play online please.
It's coming I promise!
سلام بر تو ای ایرانی
@@SirGamer علیکم السلام ایرانی
@@Jefflenious it will be helpful
can online work in crack?
It does, should have the same version
This min max crap makes this game look boring AF. I've played Stronghold for like 20 years I love the game and I love the tutorial videos you make but for me I think I'll just stick to building epic castles against AI rather than a single wall with 4 types of combat unit against a player.
Make it a series.
one is interesting ,but a wholeseries would be boring. also still waiting for that guide how-to-multiplayer.
nice play pally