BANAMAN Raided The Piggy Bank Because Cash Is King!
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2022
- Times must be hard if you have to raid the piggy bank again, especially when fuel prices are still extortionate. Legal tender is a legal way to pay for outstanding debts. Once you pay for your goods, the goods are yours. If you pick your items off the supermarket shelf and put them in your basket before taking it to the till and paying for them, there will always be an opportunity to refuse acceptance of certain denominations of legal tender, then the goods will end up back on the shelf because your legal tender denomination has been refused as offer of payment.
£50 notes have been a classic example were shops or petrol stations don't accept them for purchasing goods, but this is normally complimented by a sign at the till or at the fuel pump. There was a description of card types to be used, but no information regarding any type of legal tender.
The only difference between a shop counter and a petrol station forecourt, is that you dispense your fuel into your vehicle and then a contract is formed. At this point of dispension of fuel, the fuel is then inside your property. It is then your personal responsibility to pay before driving away from the petrol station.
Although the commemorative coins are INTENDED for collection and not circulation, the emphasis is on the word INTENDED meaning it's only an intention, not an exception for use!
By offering to pay for fuel with legal tender, the offer of payment must be either accepted or rejected by the petrol station cashier before you can legally and lawfully drive away. In this case, no act of parliament was broken which left BANAMAN with no other choice but to drive away with or without the £20 and 5p coin as given and offered at the time. The petrol station cashiers could pay for their own electricity, or fuel delivery invoice with the legal tender £20 coin so they always had the option to pay for their own fuel and pass it on in the same way as BANAMAN tried to do.
This video also includes an urban myth buster regarding fuel expansion and value for money when you purchase fuel in hot or cold weather... But all in all, this was never a police matter. But because the cashier insisted on calling the police, BANAMAN thought it would be reasonable to flag down the nearest police officer in order to help the petrol station waist as minimal time to the police in this matter any further than their intention at the time. The banks are part of the problem and they all contribute as part of the BIGGER Picture...!
Thanks to @julianchamberlain5399 for inspiring myself and others to highlight that legal tender is legal tender and that people, shops and businesses, should not discriminate against any form of legal tender!
Location; Morrisons petrol station in Brampton near Barnsley, South Yorkshire.
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Times must be hard if you have to raid the piggy bank again, especially when fuel prices are still extortionate. Legal tender is a legal way to pay for outstanding debts. Once you pay for your goods, the goods are yours. If you pick your items off the supermarket shelf and put them in your basket before taking it to the till and paying for them, there will always be an opportunity to refuse acceptance of certain denominations of legal tender, then the goods will end up back on the shelf because your legal tender denomination has been refused as offer of payment.
£50 notes have been a classic example were shops or petrol stations don't accept them for purchasing goods, but this is normally complimented by a sign at the till or at the fuel pump. There was a description of card types to be used, but no information regarding any type of legal tender.
The only difference between a shop counter and a petrol station forecourt, is that you dispense your fuel into your vehicle and then a contract is formed. At this point of dispension of fuel, the fuel is then inside your property. It is then your personal responsibility to pay before driving away from the petrol station.
Although the commemorative coins are INTENDED for collection and not circulation, the emphasis is on the word INTENDED meaning it's only an intention, not an exception for use!
By offering to pay for fuel with legal tender, the offer of payment must be either accepted or rejected by the petrol station cashier before you can legally and lawfully drive away. In this case, no act of parliament was broken which left BANAMAN with no other choice but to drive away with or without the £20 and 5p coin as given and offered at the time. The petrol station cashiers could pay for their own electricity, or fuel delivery invoice with the legal tender £20 coin so they always had the option to pay for their own fuel and pass it on in the same way as BANAMAN tried to do.
This video also includes an urban myth buster regarding fuel expansion and value for money when you purchase fuel in hot or cold weather... But all in all, this was never a police matter. But because the cashier insisted on calling the police, BANAMAN thought it would be reasonable to flag down the nearest police officer in order to help the petrol station waist as minimal time to the police in this matter any further than their intention at the time. The banks are part of the problem and they all contribute as part of the BIGGER Picture...!
You're a strange bloke
@@thetruth9210 Cash will always be king in my book, even if it becomes a distant memory when they eventually go all DIGITAL CURRENCY.
@@thetruth9210 I agree, those coins may be worth much more when cashless comes in to play. I think it is futile to resist the digital currency, but it won't stop me keep using it and maybe video recording some shops who are card only who don't accept cash, are shops that I think I could incorporate in to highlighting that if they only accept card, I will walk away. If you know of any shops in the Sheffield area card only, let me know and I will add it to my TO DO LIST. As for the coins wishing I kept hold of them... it appears I can't get rid of them at the moment!
@@thetruth9210 I remember the ID card fiasco, and like you say, it will help if more people got on board with the idea of resisting the ways they want to control everybody. I must admit, although I don't stand in front of the Facial Recognition Cameras at checkouts, I could do more to avoid the main cameras on the entrance and exit points. Having said that, I have seen many ladies adjusting their hair and pouting in front of those checkout cameras with screens, little do they know who may be watching those pouts live!
@@BANAMAN we've had the experience and have the memory at least 😔.
Love how eager Christopher Eccleston was to explain the pump engineering, proper tradesman
I thought he was Doctor Who
What a pair of beautiful, friendly and reasonable Cops with common sense - a rare encounter indeed.
Thats a worker who loves his work, so happy to explain his passion - big respect to him for an insightful sharing of knowledge, these are the people who need to be running the country.
That guy fixing the pumps was mint
WHY do Police park in such stupid places .
Even the ‘accused’ has politely parked AWAY from the pumps.
‘Not legal tender, to US’
Where is the logic in that ?
Means they dictate the laws really, doesn't it?
I would love to have a pint with that petrol pump guy he is pure class😂
Brilliant pair of officers.. clone them now 😂😂😂
Wpc crumpets x 2😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Nice cops - shame to think they could get corrupted like most of the others!
Engineer was a great guy!
legal currencey should have to be accepted . All this cashless rubbish needs stopping .
I completely agree. If they go digital they will have control of everyone’s money and the implications would be enormous.
He took back the offer of the coins which he had tendered. He has broken the law.
You are living in the past
Wake up.
In 'the past' there was only cash, @@johnadcock7062
@@johnadcock7062 when cash goes we will all be living in the past . You will do as your told then and spend where your told just like back in the day .
“Can you serve the lad?” “I will” then completely ignores him 😂
5:19 pump technician guy is a legend haha
Even if they passed it on to a debt collection agency you could reply to the first letter you receive stating that you’re challenging this and want your day in court and no enforcement can be carried until you’ve had your day in court. You just can’t send debt collector to someone’s door step without the option to challenge it and have due process
Why do you carry handcuffs you absolute tool 🤣🤣
You just never know when you might need them 😂
@@BANAMAN strange is that bro, do you have special needs? My cousin's got special needs and he dresses up a lot and wears plastic handcuffs.
@@JamesBond-cl8lj Doesn't Miss Moneypenny use handcuffs on you, Mister Bond?
Says JamesBond . 😅🤣🤣🤡
Clear cut evidence that no man should ever listen to his wife
Excellent - love watching their poor heads implode
If I was in their position, I would probably say the same things but not get to emotionally involved as it is Morrisons money, not theirs and all they did was their job. It's a shame they felt like they needed to be frustrated, did they not think for one minute that I might not be a full shilling!
Maybe the manager’s wife ‘works in a bank’ , but as a cleaner, and just maybe knows diddly squat about legal tender.
Just putting that out there :)
Could be a sperm bank. I heard they have assistants now.
Imagine the guy in the red van driving off with the £20 coin 🤣.
What a fantastic pair of officers.
Using a phone on a petrol Service station is a £2000 fine.
Boohoo drink the koolaid
They are 2 GOOD WPC well done ladies 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Payment was rejected, you tried to settle debt so I'm pretty sure they can't do anything.
The guy working on the pumps was mint
This is the most random thing I watched & learned from
If i was management there, i'd pay the 20 out of pocket and accept the coin for myself LOL.
and afterwards drive to TESCO and buy some fuel and use it to pay the debt.
I would pay the £20 petrol myself if I was the management
keep the £20 coin because it will be worth a lot more in years to come I have a Euro 96 £2 pound coin in the shape of a football which I got in 1996 and I have still got it now in 2023
One year later - I've just written the same comment above and now I find yours. :D
Phoned 999, this is for emergency use only. It’s not a crime. It’s absolutely disgusting that people use 999 for none emergency. Wasted police time is ridiculous
this is evil, the devil at work, not the driver but the refusal of cash
Part of the WEF cashless society plan..then they have full control over you..if you don’t do as told they’ll just freeze your bank account..just like Fidel Castro jr did in Canada to the people who donated to the truckers protest..use cash people..force them to keep it..
If I were in the shop at the time I'd offer to buy the coins off you for £22, then I'd add them to my coin collection 🤓
Cool stuff fella! Very watchable.
HOWEVER, the star of the show was the pump mechanic. So very open as an individual and good egg all around.
A gentleman.
🔧😎 that guy was dope
I am glad that there are people picking up on him, I absolutely agree 110% that he was a good kind man who shares his passion for the work he does.
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An interesting reflection of what legal money is and the fact that they are trying to stop us from using money and turn it to digital currency which can be considered having no value, but essentially money is a symbol of what a persons work can buy. It really is an odd system.
Big up to those coppers !
Very Interesting video, well done, always wondered about what happens in this situation but wow, well done to the fuel tech chap, really enhanced the footage. Thanks Banaman.
I am amazed that a morrisons employee can decide what is legal tender, better than the royal mint, That cannot be right!
I wonder what our Royal family would think about being refused! They are legal tender!
27:47 - the chap says he won't leave, then he wants to pay £. What a top bloke.
I think it will be a good training exercise for any future interactions of this kind. I do believe that Morrisons can use this video to help train their staff and highlight alternative ways that situations like this could be handled. They was all very good under the circumstances.
Those coins are "legal tender" but legally any business can refuse them as they are not in general circulation. Morrisons was perfectly within their right to refuse them, and their solution for you to pay at an alternative store was decent of them
Man who used commemorative coin to pay for petrol wins payout
Richard Chamberlain, 54, awarded £5,000 in compensation following dispute over £60 diesel bill he tried to cover with Royal Mint’s special edition Trafalgar Square memento
Wednesday 27 October 2021 18:36 BST
It was himself who asked me to make this video of myself trying to spend the coin, and he inspired me to say yes I will.
This is a true story, but was he awarded the money through the courts?
I've watched it and police interview I also think there was a data breach with a wpc.
Police officers seemed alright
I was a superstore manager for a Morrison competitor for decades. Under those same circumstances - with 'Mark' being so awkward I would have accepted those coins, completed the sale on the till (so no till shortage), and then sorted it out internally before banking took place... and saved EVERYONE a whole lot of time and inconvenience!
You Ian have seen the BIGGER Picture...! Thank you for identifying what some people can't comprehend... There is always a means to an end in my methods of temporary madness, even if you identify it as being awkward! But that's good, because awkward will help highlight what's wrong in society. Thank you for your rationalisation in this matter 👍
Engineer said the word "suck" about 100 times 🤭
I loved that guy because he shared his passion for his knowledge on the job.
@@BANAMAN 👍👍 was a great guy
Worst part of this is he's phoning 999 for a petrol dispute waste of resources or what
You had handcuffs on your utility belt during this? 😅😅
Why did you give them the bag?
You should've given them the £20 and 5p coin and not taken them back!
thoes two colleagues were outstanding, big thumbs up to them 👍
Nobody in their right mind could fault them in my opinion, they was professional and didn't get to involved with the banter. Although, a bit of banter will always go down well with the viewer from any police officer as this can also highlight the human side as well as their professional side. But totally understandable that not all interactions can justify a bit of banter.
Interesting facts there about the pump! Very informative!
I swear allegiance to cash.
ChatGBT said they are required to accept the coins, but gas is not debt.
The look of the chap (queuing up behind BANAMAN) at 9:15 😆. "There's a guy waffling on about half Crowns in 2022" 🤪
🤣These subtlties I don't expect people to see, I imagined he might start to think I was not a full shilling as he might have thought I was talking to myself as I spoke for the hidden camera
@@BANAMAN I try to watch these videos on a desktop PC with monitor that's reasonably large (about 27"). It is easier to see such subtleties on a larger screen and I think people who watch them on a mobile phone, or even a tablet type device would miss out 👍.
the young man and many others pay with an app by phone .these means the young generation are accepting a cashless society.
At 26:30, someone puts something in the charity collection tin. Would the charity accept a donation of a £20 coin?
Petrol pump man is great. Refreshing to see someone doing that sort of work not being an absolute shithead.
@BANAMAN I forgot to mention to you that all banks accounts will from the poor to the rich all accounts will be emptied and cash that you do have will be worthless, I know its only weeks or months away take care 👍🙏
I have always thought there would be something like this going to happen, we have seen it in other countries were money is littering the streets decades ago...
An interesting great video which compliments the great Julian’s excellent ones. All I hope is that they do not take a chance now to do away with our cash and go digital everywhere. Thank you Banaman, good work.
The people at the petrol station - the lady, the bloke, the manager and the chap fixing the pump were great - totally reasonable and salt of the earth type people. It was almost a shame that this was a deliberate attempt to perform the commemorative coin test. But it was just how it happened and hopefully they saw the funny side eventually. 🙂
Don't think there is a debt collector in the country who is only going to collect the amount that is owed to the garage, unless I've got it wrong and they all work for nothing.😂
Great video and content. Well done Mark. Your videos are always very entertaining.
It's been done by others umpteen times already.
@@richardjones8699 and its always entertaining and interesting, if you dont like it, go and watch something on your level, lol cats or something
@@fordcapri6288 or more interesting videos that haven't been done a million times already - as opposed to "cats" which is a somewhat odd thing to suggest.
@@richardjones8699 i was reading through your youtube comment history and thinking about something that would appeal to your level of critical thinking, hence why i suggested funny cat videos :3
@@fordcapri6288 we have entirely similar RUclips viewing habits on examination. Accordingly, while you may find cats amusing and think others will also, I personally don't.
Legally they cannot refuse to accept them!
you slipped up by taking the cash back. Julian Chamberlain never takes it back. that way they can't say he hasn't paid.
passive sarcasm at 9:59 😉. The lady seemed fantastic - very patient and reasonable under the situation.
I agree
They have to pay DVLA a fee to get your details.
😂
All royal mint coins are legal
Tender under royal proclamation under the coinage act 1971
Notice how these people start without knowing how the call will go, starting to tell the operator about the issue, before stating "police please". Clearly they have an ego waiting to call the police for any need.
Its similar to the lady who phoned 999 to complain that the ice cream seller won't accept £50 note so won't sell her the ice cream.
Loved it .. well executed. 😆😅🤣🙂
Old boy calling police without confirmation from the Manager.
Full of his own importance.
Make a contract, they get 15 mins to assess its legal tender, after that charge them £200 per hour or part of an hour for waiting
Contracts have another party. They wouldn't agree to that.
@@richardjones8699 BS i did it with the police when they stopped me Everyday on my electric bike, i got it stamped by an inspector and showed it every time i was stopped. They soon stopped hassling me
@@scotspaul they stopped because they just couldn't be bothered. Not because they believed you had a legally enforceable contract. Ebikes are something that the police literally turn a blind eye to due to the huge volume on the streets. It's something that most forces deal with via education not enforcement. Re a contract, there has to be two "consenting" parties to it and it's terms and conditions. You can't just unilaterally impose suchlike - what you are proposing here.
The pump service man was a highlight of professionalism combined with the human touch
The chap at 25:00 was the embodiment of reasonableness. It was almost a shame the staff were so reasonable under the circumstances. I hope they found the situation amusing and it brightened up their day. They seemed very sporting. 😎
Keep up the great work
All the best
28:30, schooled in abusing the 999 number :-D (and rightly so, old guy should know better).
I was screaming at the screen for you to fully explain the situation properly. Once the fuel is in the tank it becomes yours and the money owed becomes a debt, that they are legally obliged to accept cash for unless otherwise stated at the time the contract is created ie a sign on the pumps saying they don't accept them.
Thanks for helping me learn this information, I am never to old to learn.
Fantastic video. I don't catch as much of your content as perhaps I should or would like to but always a pleasure.
i feel sorry for the older lady behind the counter
Gd work mate keep it up thank you for your video
a very interesting video that speaks for itself. Very entertaining - lets hope more people pay with CASH - the normal 'cash' that is (rather than commemorative coins) or petrol stations will become cashless like an increasing number of outlets. Excellent video BANAMAN.
Thats a fair point, and then there will be one petrol station in the area coining it in with cash payments because there are still alot of people out there who prefer cash. I don't think petrol stations will reject cash unless a digital currency is implemented. I think it will be just a matter of time before they start putting signs on pumps.
@@BANAMAN If the UK becomes cashless and they blame in on people using 'commemorative coins' then I'm calling that out as a scapegoat ! In any case £20 to Morrisons will be peanuts. Fake money is more of a problem I'd expect.
@@markosmith8037 I do t think they will use commemorative coins as a reason for cashless society, I think they will just impose it on people without a care in the world which will make all shops and so on, unavailable to those who want to use cash... there will be trouble ahead when they go cashless.
@Blackbeltbarrister go on then, tell us how Mark is wrong.
Big up to Julian.
26:33 - I thought someone was emptying the charity donation tin !
"In practice this means that although the silver UK coins we produce in denominations of £5, £20, £50 and £100 are approved as legal tender, they have been designed as limited edition collectables or gifts and will not be entering general circulation. As such, UK shops and banks are unlikely to accept them."
Literally says this on the royalmint... what a waste of time. Just accept they dont have to accept them and get a new hobby.
Whats the point in giving them Legal Tender Legal Status Dan? Especially if they did not want them to be used for debts! In this case, it was a payment offered for debt payment created by myself at the point the fuel became mine when it entered the fuel tank! What you quoted from Royal Mint website is just words that include the words NOT INTENDED... in otherwords, not intended for circulation, but the intention only means intention and nothing else! An intention does not make the coins any different in legal status as a £1.00 coin for example... if you strip it all back, you will find that the Royal Mint are selling coins for the denomination value hoping they never get used!
@@BANAMANif only they were only hoping that people didn't use them, they clearly took action to stop people from using them by telling banks and shops not to accept them. As a seller, if you sold a product that doesn't do what it says on the description, you'd more than likely be found guilty of fraud.
I find it amazing that many people not only let it happen, but are so deprived of brain cells that they go against those who refuse to be scammed by the Royal Mint.
Great work Mark, as always. 👏
I really like the engineer guy, cute clever and salt of the earth kind of a guy!
I thought it was illegal to use a phone at a petrol station? Still if it is then we know why she’s using it. One law for them and another for us 😂
I SWEAR TO GOD ABOVE I WANT TO TAKE OUT THESE GOOD SISTERS AND MR HALE FROM ANOTHER VIDEO AND TREAT THESE POLICE OFFICERS TO DINNER AND DRINKS I MEAN F ME SIDE WAYS THESE POLICE ACTUALLY DONE THEIR JOB WITH NO EGO WERE PROFESSIONAL AND ENDEARING GOD BLESS THEM BOTH X
I absolutely agree and are a shining example for how police could be while on duty.
@@BANAMAN yes mate because 100 percent this country would be in a better shape if we had more police officers like these here that I've seen on this you tube video. God Bless You Banaman Amen xxxxxxx and God Bless Your Earthly Family Amen xxxxxxx
Good work , Julian is a legend , glad to see he has spread the word on this
the vapor collection nozzle and the ladies answer sounds like people are been resold the vapor 🤣
The two officers were brilliant and pretty, they didn't really want to be involved but understood that it was morrisons policy that is at fault,,also the engineer was a cool guy too.
Nice to see some switched-on police officers. They were great, as were you for your flawless logic. Great vid, thank you.
47:07 He spoke his wife (who works in a bank) who says they are not legal tender.
It must be true then. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Lord have mercy. It's well established that if pushed they have to (and do) accept these coins. All the drama comes from cashiers and 'managers' clutching their pearls as they can't actually bank them and the whole process is a pain the butt for them.
The public banking institutions doth speak much waffle...
Not getting into the ins and outs of this, just to educate you a half crown is 12.5p, a crown is 25p.
Thank you for informing me of this, I and many others only learn from experiance, topic and debate. I am often referred to as not a full shilling but I won't use that as a reason for my lack of knowledge.
@@BANAMAN Crowns have shot up in value since the Queen passed away. A month ago you struggled to give them away, now some are reaching £20.
Well how they did it at gas station in Québec, Canada for years now, a lot of gas stations ask for payment before getting gas in your car. Either with cash or credit cards. On every money in Canada, it is marked on them Legal Tender, which is legal everywhere in Canada, no matter what shops, gas stations, grocery stores etc say. I used to pay with $100 to fill up my working trucks and gas stations would lose their minds over it, always claiming they had been passed counterfeited bills before etc. They had to accept them as is was legal tender !!
why on earth do they employ little girls ? if they had to butter a piece of bread they would have to call sarge to ask him which side ?
They was much better than most other police officers performing their duties, I thought they was a shining example for a new way police officers could be in the near future... but my guess is that they will have the micky taken out of them at the station for being too nice.
That fella has got a proper attitude!
46:45 The Bank of England doesn't distribute any coins. All coins and money come from the Royal Mint. The Bank of England handles money, but it doesn't distribute cash.
In America you pay first then fill gas
Get legal advice, just in case this gets "out of hand " you have seen how stupid the world is with the legal tender thing . Don't let the dept people put on massive extra costs to the amount owed and although they refused to accept. Good luck .
If Morrisons want their £20.05p, they can come to my door and ask for it. I tried to give it to them more than once, but now they will have to come to me. I really don't think a debt recovery agency would take this matter on as there is a none existance of the NO MEANS TO PAY FORM which is what the form has an agreement on to pay within 7 days. It is that form that was not filled in and that I did not agree to that they willl need in order for any third party INTERLOPER to recover the debt and attempt to charge any extortion fee's. I have dealt with INTERLOPERS before, and if it was the case, would they themself accept the £20 and 5p coin s that Morrisons didn't!
@@BANAMAN Never sign anything .. that's a contract when you do that. Maybe look into "Adherence" and "Adhesion" contracts to get a better understanding on this subject matter..
Another thing why can big companies tell us what to do. If it’s legal tender then that’s their problem. Everyone start paying with 20 pound coins please 😂
The guy in the garage really wanted to be mr Authoritay
Morrisons do accept them load of crap ..... Go too Tesco's there accept them I went there ok
Tesco for quick reference 🤣 www.devonlive.com/news/devon-news/tesco-petrol-shopper-arrested-using-6120108
Using a mobile telephone device standing next to a petrol pump? 😁
Enjoy the koolaid