That's another great piece of armour. Drawing on the idea of Japanese 'paper' lamellar armour, I've substituted mulberry paper for a reasonable quality modern paper, and created a lamellar 'vest'. I've tested a variety of thicknesses, types of paper and construction techniques with different knives. In general, paper is surprisingly effective at stopping quite determined thrusts and slashes. I settled on stacking several folded A4 sheets together to make small individual plates. Just don't use cheap newspaper... it's terrible. 😵
Mulberry paper will be even more effective than good quality modern paper since the mulberry fibers are long, tough, and continuous (whereas modern papers are made with more fragile fibers that are shredded and broken into small pieces). Mythbusters did an episode on Chinese mulberry paper armor and found it could stop attacks thrusts and slashes from various weapons and could even stop a small caliber bullet from an 18th-century flintlock pistol.
It was, to my very limited understanding, that the construction of parts of Samurai armor and Lorica Segmentata had a specific name: laminar armor. Also you'll see the terms 'banded armor,' even 'segmented armor' be used to refer to these styles. The longer, horizontal construction warranting a different classification compared to most of the other lamellar armor examples historically.
Does anyone know how this kind of armor was maintained and cleaned to prevent rusting? Especially when the plates are attached to cloth/leather via rivets. There's 1 side of metal that would be nearly impossible to clean.
There's surviving lamellar armor from bronze age China. So yes, its origins probably go back very far. And I agree, overlapping thin metal plates offer great protection while being easy to mass produce.
Some of the pictures of Saint George showed a lamellar armor that included attached sleeves. How would those have worked? The plates seem pretty stiff against skewing…
lamellar cant cover joints so mail was worn underneath, many Icons take some creative liberties because its passed down for thousands of years by monks and priests who don't much fighting in wars.
Lamellar wasn’t popular in England? The brigandine was hugely popular in England. And in the previous centuries the coat of plates was popular amongst the knightly class before the wide adaptation of plate armour.
I count lamellar and brigandine as different armors. Basically for me lamellar should be laced together and without cover. Brigandine is rivited and covered. Also some brigandine are shaped more like segmented plate armor more than small individual plates.
Really, how versatile and talented you were, Akaki, and how you do a rather difficult job, such a job, such art, today's young people do not and cannot do it (due to laziness and computer games, everyone suddenly wants to earn money without work), and you create with your own hands. with natural material), you give life to these ancient war clothes and make it possible to touch the original works - this is definitely not computer graphics))) if they sew plastic clothes to the actors in the filming, if they can run easily, then let them run with it))) I believe that it is so interesting The historical and very necessary program will cause a lot of interest in Georgia and all over the world, and good luck and I know you will be successful without a doubt! Good luck!🥰👍👏👏👏✊🙏
start by starting. whole point of my videos are that I too don't know where to start or how to do it exactly but start messing around and learn from my mistakes. and if i can teach others about them too that'd be great. but main message is to just do it and see what happens
I could be mistaken, but isn't lamellar supposed to be free standing in that the plates are all sewn connected to each other with no backing? While on the other hand, scale armor is made of plates sewn on to a backing. If that's the case, I think that would make your armor actually scale armor and not lamellar.
No. Lamellar has plates with multiple holes and is sewn with each other in a particular way that attaches the top and the bottom to each other that makes it more rigid and is usually set in rows going up. While scale is usually only connected with the top row, leaving the bottom flexible to move around like scales and thus can only be held rows going down. This is Byzantine style lamellar, where rows of plates are connected by leather backing, but top and bottom are connected like lamellar, that is the main difference. Scale is more flexible but has less structural support, while lamellar is bit to rigid.
Lamellar is a really a "family" of armours, as is scale. Some scale armours were attached not only at the top, but the bottom too, specifically to counter upward thrusts. In effect, over the millennia, the two technologies have at times overlapped, which is hardly surprising since they both have similar aims and both work with small plates. Coats of plates and the later Brigandine are likewise similar in concept to scale and Lamellar.
Great video, I have been a fan of lamellar for years, especially the Byzantine style that incorporates elements of Roman style.
Byzantine is Roman
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very good!
Great stuff
I love lamellar armor. It's some of the coolest looking kinds.
მაგარია, ვერც მივხვდი ქართველი თუ იყავი ამ ვიდეოს რომ ვუყურებდი, მანდამ საქართველო არ ახსენე, წარმატებები
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That's another great piece of armour. Drawing on the idea of Japanese 'paper' lamellar armour, I've substituted mulberry paper for a reasonable quality modern paper, and created a lamellar 'vest'. I've tested a variety of thicknesses, types of paper and construction techniques with different knives. In general, paper is surprisingly effective at stopping quite determined thrusts and slashes. I settled on stacking several folded A4 sheets together to make small individual plates. Just don't use cheap newspaper... it's terrible. 😵
very interesting. I was also thinking of making paper armor in the future, did you use any adhesives?
Mulberry paper will be even more effective than good quality modern paper since the mulberry fibers are long, tough, and continuous (whereas modern papers are made with more fragile fibers that are shredded and broken into small pieces). Mythbusters did an episode on Chinese mulberry paper armor and found it could stop attacks thrusts and slashes from various weapons and could even stop a small caliber bullet from an 18th-century flintlock pistol.
Fantastic and informative video, wish to have a go at making some one day!
thanks. its a hassle but as you can see its quite easily doable.
It was, to my very limited understanding, that the construction of parts of Samurai armor and Lorica Segmentata had a specific name: laminar armor. Also you'll see the terms 'banded armor,' even 'segmented armor' be used to refer to these styles. The longer, horizontal construction warranting a different classification compared to most of the other lamellar armor examples historically.
Does anyone know how this kind of armor was maintained and cleaned to prevent rusting? Especially when the plates are attached to cloth/leather via rivets. There's 1 side of metal that would be nearly impossible to clean.
There's surviving lamellar armor from bronze age China. So yes, its origins probably go back very far. And I agree, overlapping thin metal plates offer great protection while being easy to mass produce.
when you look at the Whisby armor finds one of them sure looks like lamellar D plates worked into a coat of plates
წარმატებები პს short ვიდეოებიც დადე მეტი გამომწერი შეგემატება )))
ვფიქრობ, მაგრამ რთულია ესეთ თემებზე მოკლე ვიდეოების გაკეთება
წარმატებები- congrats in your future projects, subscribe and thanks for very interesing content!
გაიგახე! thanks a lot
Some of the pictures of Saint George showed a lamellar armor that included attached sleeves. How would those have worked? The plates seem pretty stiff against skewing…
lamellar cant cover joints so mail was worn underneath, many Icons take some creative liberties because its passed down for thousands of years by monks and priests who don't much fighting in wars.
Nice video, good point about protecting from upward hits
Thanks.
Also great vids BTW. cool animation style and very interesting topics!
Instead of using skinny leather straps holding the lamellar plates together, would it be better if you could Instead use metal wire?
It's Ahistorical and not as flexible. Plates still need to comfortably slide.
Best device I got is to use hardened silk laces
From what I can see this is collapsible as well to take less space in storage. Another advantage over scale and plate armor.
Both scale and plate are potentially collapsible, depending on the construction, brigandine I have is fully collapsible
Lamellar wasn’t popular in England? The brigandine was hugely popular in England. And in the previous centuries the coat of plates was popular amongst the knightly class before the wide adaptation of plate armour.
I count lamellar and brigandine as different armors.
Basically for me lamellar should be laced together and without cover.
Brigandine is rivited and covered. Also some brigandine are shaped more like segmented plate armor more than small individual plates.
Really, how versatile and talented you were, Akaki, and how you do a rather difficult job, such a job, such art, today's young people do not and cannot do it (due to laziness and computer games, everyone suddenly wants to earn money without work), and you create with your own hands. with natural material), you give life to these ancient war clothes and make it possible to touch the original works - this is definitely not computer graphics))) if they sew plastic clothes to the actors in the filming, if they can run easily, then let them run with it))) I believe that it is so interesting The historical and very necessary program will cause a lot of interest in Georgia and all over the world, and good luck and I know you will be successful without a doubt! Good luck!🥰👍👏👏👏✊🙏
than you kindly
Completely forgot the Scythians.
I'm making scythian scale armor right now, didn't forget, was saving it for future video.
წარმატებები .მე როდის გამომივლი იარაღის მუზეუმში რამე ვიდეო ჩავწეროთ ქართულად .სორი ფორ მაი ინგლიშ )
კიდე საინტერესო რაღაცეები მაქვს ჩაფიქრებული და ახალი აღკაზმულობით გეახლები
damn this English accent 💚 interesting content💚 good lucks to you! keep up the great work
Fkn Swanky!
Pretty cool lamellar armor. My lamellar armor is more israelite/assyrian inspired.
I want to try my hand at different styles later on and compare them.
Thank you. I want to make a suit but don’t know where to start
start by starting.
whole point of my videos are that I too don't know where to start or how to do it exactly but start messing around and learn from my mistakes. and if i can teach others about them too that'd be great.
but main message is to just do it and see what happens
I could be mistaken, but isn't lamellar supposed to be free standing in that the plates are all sewn connected to each other with no backing? While on the other hand, scale armor is made of plates sewn on to a backing. If that's the case, I think that would make your armor actually scale armor and not lamellar.
No.
Lamellar has plates with multiple holes and is sewn with each other in a particular way that attaches the top and the bottom to each other that makes it more rigid and is usually set in rows going up.
While scale is usually only connected with the top row, leaving the bottom flexible to move around like scales and thus can only be held rows going down.
This is Byzantine style lamellar, where rows of plates are connected by leather backing, but top and bottom are connected like lamellar, that is the main difference.
Scale is more flexible but has less structural support, while lamellar is bit to rigid.
Lamellar is a really a "family" of armours, as is scale. Some scale armours were attached not only at the top, but the bottom too, specifically to counter upward thrusts. In effect, over the millennia, the two technologies have at times overlapped, which is hardly surprising since they both have similar aims and both work with small plates. Coats of plates and the later Brigandine are likewise similar in concept to scale and Lamellar.