How To Tell If Your Motorcycle's Clutch Is Going Bad
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This is what happened to me. My Spring Plate blew up and it almost stranded me. I lost almost all power and felt like I was in 1st or 2nd gear the whole time. Such a shitty feeling. Hope this video helps some of you.
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When the bicycle is passing you, you know you have a problem
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When ur clutch slips and u r far from home, shut off the bike, let it cool down for 15 mnts and it will ride fine for a while, then cool it again and so on. That's based on my exp with Ducatis and Honda's.
This explains why my failing clutch would work fine until it got to operating temperature.
Yeah this helps.. but only to just get you home and then get to the garage to service..
Bro I’m glad i saw this comment, my ducati is acting like that
Uhg. I went to practice for road test. After about 15 minutes of slow feathering and rear brake pressure for 'keep it loaded' my clutch would hardly digengage. Even pulled back full, it wouldn't even spring back to full closed. I immediately decided i best head home. Soon as i got on highway, cable pressure and clutch went back to normal. Wth?
Most people under the age of forty have never driven a car with a clutch or windows that have to be rolled up. It is just the way it is, not a bad thing and not a good thing. A long time ago anyone who drove a car would at one time or another experience clutch slip and failure. The people who have been riding bikes since they were kids will also know what a slipping clutch feels like. This is a great video for all the people who have never experienced this kind of problem.
Absolutely, but my failure was all of a sudden and a click started first so I'm not sure if this is the same failure my 2017 WR250R experienced.
Suddenly couldn't shift, it was like I was always in neutral.
Thank you. I’m glad someone isn’t just shitting on the video. I know plenty of guys who wouldn’t know what’s going on if their clutch was slipping.
I know it's been said already but thanks so much for posting this! It really helps to hear the sounds the bike was making and hear you describe the situation and what was going through your mind. Invaluable for new Sportster owners!
go back to the basement... IF you can drive a regular car... AKA 5 speed... not an automatic.. then you know if clutch is slipping, then it's going out.. but really even automatics, the bands will still slipping, you'll know it and beed to get out the VISA.😂
9:35 he figures it out it’s not the tune. Bad timing for the clutch to go so confusing for the guy. I would lose my mind. you kept your cool bro I’m impressed.
Thanks so much for the upload. I've had the same problems recently with my 2012 Victory Jackpot and my heart dropped because I thought I destroyed my bike, but its literally the same symptoms. Thanks a million!
this post will remain relevant for a long time. my assumptions were right about my nightster1200. same problem. thank you for posting this most stressful ride as you are/continue to help fellow riders everyday.
You turned a manual bike into a cvt
I was waiting for you to have a “Eureka” moment and realise it was the clutch that had gone, also for when the cyclist overtook you!! 😂 Glad you made it back safely though!
Interesting note in a really late comment but i can almost hear the clutchpack through the sound of the bike like a softish metal on metal sound which was subtle but relevant to that loss of power, glad though that you've settled the problem down man, always awesome to see somebody riding and having fun, even if some days aren't as fun, Stay vigilant dude, you're awesome
I like how the Grom was the only person to ask if you were alright
Glad this was posted, fireman! Happened to me yesterday on my victory. 25 mph max on highway for 20 miles to next town. May have screwed something else up with the high revs with no go! But starts the repair process quicker to know initially clutch is blown!
I guess some people don't have an aptitude for things mechanical. While this bike has no tacho fitted, the engine noise is enough to tell any basic mechanic the clutch is slipping. No matter the state of tune, if it's revving high and the speedo is not matching RPM in any given gear then we have evidence of clutch slip.
Full credits for uploading the video though, takes humility to post a fifteen minute video that will probably do wonders for the learners out there.
Thanks for being understanding.
This is why having a real analog tach is useful. You can see that your clutch is slipping before you can feel it. My Triumph has a tiny digital tach that is next to invisible while riding in the sun.
Ok, clearly, you have not been through clutch failure in a car. Same exact symptoms. If you had, I think you would have understood what was going on. Kudos for uploading and showing others what to look and listen for.
This is something that everybody should see (but not experience). It happened to me and I pretty much felt the same as Dan.... and some time later I'm feeling the clutch thing again 😌
Sucks that it happened when you were doing your auto tune and was expecting the bike to run bad for a while.
Very helpful to confirm my dirt bike clutch is defiantly slipping. Gas the crap out of it, it revs high but does not match the amount of gas I'm giving it, then levels out rpms catch up to the speed and stops slipping as you feel it fully engage. Mine is just starting to slip is very subtle but for sure is starting to go. Never had a clutch go out but now I know what it feels like thanks!
so this happened to me weeks ago. I adjusted my clutch cable and it’s been progressively getting worst past 4th gear. I ended getting spark plugs changed last week and it’s no change. I’m definitely getting clutch kit ASAP.
Just a hint if the revs are increasing but you're not speeding up linearly the something in your power train, belt, clutch etc is slipping.
That's what got me cos the engine wouldn't even rev. Strange.
What if you have skipping gears??? For instance I shifted up once and it went straight into 3rd gear. Then I shifted down to 1st but it hits a false neutral...any advice???
What if it's only in one gear that it revs with no power increase?
@@kenplums4995 I have same issue in 2002 r1 2nd gear 6krpms if you pin it
@@liamlobillo3362 try to adjust your clutch properly and if that don't solve it. Could be internal issue 🤔 check level in the case too
I was watching this video thinking about how distracted you were with everything. Good job keeping it safe when you had other motorists, a cyclist, the video, your auto tune, fuel pack, devices and Tucson’s crappy streets 😂
Love all your videos dood
Bro, my streetglide did the exact same thing lastnight and it was a nightmare. I couldn't get anyone to tow my bike because it was 3am and people were either asleep or they just didn't give a damn. I must of called 12 different towing places.🤦♂️ I ended up getting a ride to my house where luckily I have a trailer where am able to haul my motorcycle. After a long night of bitching I finally got the bike home. I checked it out today and yup clutch is out. Thanks for the videos. 👍
Thank god you exist @DanDanTheFireman I just had this exact same problem... taking it to the shop tomorrow or friday... thanks a ton
perfect time to come across this vid. my second just started stalling a day ago. motor revs but not go. and that damn fuel smell. adds up. thanks man!
Bro you're a life saver !!! This is exactly what happen to me the other day. Everything runs but not in gear. I put it in first gear & I let go of the clutch & it didnt stall just stayed on .
Here we are march 2024 and I’m watching your vid and it solved my problem thanks bro
Thank you dan for posting this. The same thing happened to me today on my way home from work (22mi commute dfw traffic on srt at 5pm). This happened before but went away. I just thought I was getting low on fuel because I was going up a hill. Looks like I will putting the bike up for a while. Just ordered tires, but now I will need a clutch discs. Might as well do the valves and belts. 2011 Ducati monster 796😢
Well I finally got time to mess it the bike and I wish it was the clutch. Although I did find 3 metal plates completely burnt, so I will be replacing the clutch pack. But the clutch basket nut backed completely off. Also the clutch slave pushed my clutch rod completely into the engine because the nut backed off, thus bending the clutch push rod. And causing my slave cylinder to start leaking because it over extend itself. Apparently I found a couple of people that this same thing happened to on some monster forums. Smh why Ducati I love you but it may be time for you to go bye bye
Red
This happens whenever I try a synthetic blend. Is the Barnett clutch an upgrade? I think I need stiffer springs to run synthetic.
DE Nichols u mean synthetic oil?
Last Sunday my bike began doing exactly this, at first I thought it wasn't firing like it should. Then I realized that the problem was worse when I was in 4th and 5th gear. Now I have to rebuild my clutch and it's something I can't hardly afford since I just put a new tire on the back last Wednesday.
DanDanTheFireman yeah because it's still running fine, it just seems to be slipping in higher gears. When I had the tire put on my mechanic told me I would need a cloth later but he said it should hold up a few months. It lasted less than a week but he did tell me to watch for problems in higher gears and not to ride it so that I wouldn't do more damage than just the plates. It's going to cost me between $150 and $200 for parts and I plan on doing the work myself, your videos will help with this even though my bike is a Honda Shadow vt750 ace.
DanDanTheFireman part of the reason I bought my bike is because I knew it would need lots of work and I want to learn as much as I can about working on it. The cost of parts and repairs is more than I can really afford but eventually I will get the repairs done and learn a lot along the way. I guess I got what I wanted and I do love my bike.
My clutch isnt sliping but my bike sounds like its grinding an smells awfull. Also got no power.are there other problems u can have ?
Realize that this is from a few years back..nice info provided though and very important to know. As said more throttle but bike does not pick up speed but revs higher... then check the clutch (position, free play etc). Please remember your speed now is reduced dramatically and your bike is not picking up as fast anymore -you are in a disadvantage compared to other vehicles, they expect you to pick up and go way faster than you actually are able to now, and the danger of someone rear ending you is much higher, so place yourself and your bike on the lane closer to the shoulder of the road as soon as you realize there is something going on in order to have a safe “exit” if necessary.
I literally just had the same thing happen to me. 09 Nightster, just put a fuelpak on and did an autotune, bike was running amazingly, and all the sudden I have no power. Blown clutch. I will be watching your video on changing that next. Thank you so much for posting all this info. I am also in AZ so it's like some weird type of fate/deja vu finding this 😂😅
Something similar to that happened to me on my truck. I was replacing rear brake lines, to get to the fitting I had to drop the fuel tank disconnecting lines etc. I finished the job and hooked everything back up, and the truck ran like absolute crap. For 2 weeks I chased a fuel delivery/ignition problem because that was the last thing I touched (after a repair if something else is wrong that wasn't there before is usually your fault lol). After week 2 (lol) I began to branch out and test other stuff. Finally I found it was the EGR valve was sticking open slightly longer than it should. Had nothing to do with what I had previously done just like this had nothing to do with autotune lol
This happened to me today! Except I was getting absolutely no power at all. Had to coast into a parking lot.
Thank you for the post! Very helpful
Thanks for your video. I own a 08 stortster 1200 custom and never aware of this issue before. My bike got 16k now and I’m planning of replace the clutch after watching this video.
Amazing how long it took to think it was the clutch lol 😂
Big Jun right
This is painful to watch. It's like I feel your pain 😐... I'm so glad you got it figured out and fixed! Good job! 👍
Just experienced this on my Ducati 1198, looking forward to rebuilding the clutch it looks like.
I have a 2002 r1. bike rpms jump to redline when I pin it in 2nd gear at 6krpms. would that be a clutch ?
Ok this vid was super helpful...and I'm a bad person because I laughed a little when you were struggling to pass the bicycle.
When he said the biker could make it and he only has two legs. 😂😂😂👌 i felt his pain
DUUUUUUDE!!!! Thanks for posting this vid. Same symptoms on my 2014 streetglide with 56k miles on it. Never thought I was this harsh on my clutch but I push it hard. Haven't taken it apart yet (just happened 3 days ago about 1.5 miles from home) but on my bike its a breeze. Got a video saved already. Had plenty of time while I was stranded, waiting for bike to cool off, thinking that it was just an overheated clutch. $200 for a new clutch pack, oil, new gaskets and I should be ready to go. Thanks for posting and showing the fragmentation of your clutch plates.
I was in the same exact situation today riding from Upstate NY to Jersey. The problem did not present itself until I was riding uphill and started to lose power on the rear wheel but Revs still high. Luckily, I made it home by only going 45mph and maintaining revs up to 2500 and on 3rd gear. Taking my 18 Street Glide with only 2k miles on it (pretty much new) to dealer to see what the actual problem is inside the trans.
danilo Jara glad u made it home lol
@@Motordrago Love the sarcasm lol
Hey Dan, recently I had to adjust the clutch cable...one day I was riding and the handle just became loose. I watched your video and did the clutch adjustment... everything was fine. So my problem is every time I start my bike , the handle is loose...once I start riding it tightens up. I went home and as I turned the bike off there was a huge “Ka-chunk!” Next day I was at a stop sign and the bike started sputtering and shut off...wouldn’t start, wouldn’t go forward or backwards, wouldn’t let me change the gear. I quickly got off, re-adjusted the clutch cable, jumped it, started back up and drove home, no problems. Someone mentioned that it might be a frayed or stretched clutch cable? Any thoughts? Sorry for the long message.
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Hey guys I have a problem. When I hold the clutch and release it to move off it makes a grinding sound. It also makes the same sound when it bumps. Please help me.
Would a slipping clutch cause a CEL?only blinks when I’m on a gear.any ideas??i have an 07 Zx6r
Hi Dan, I just experienced the very same thing on my 08 F650GS, and after watching this, I suspect it's same issue u experienced. I rode home exactly how u did only getting max 80kph and 6th felt like 1st. Thanks for this. I'll get it checked soon.
That thing sounds like kevin james imitation of an overloaded wave runner lol thanks for having the balls to put this up.
Hey fellas I’m waiting on my M. O. M. The shop version to come in. Does anyone have a idea on how to adjust the clutch cable on a 2018 street bob soft tail. Some say it’s a hydraulic clutch others say it’s a two part cable. I’m lost until my book shows up can’t find a reservoir to fill. The cable has this big ass plastic piece on there. Any help would be fine.
Ho damn..
My CBRipper 600 is doing the same when I shift down from 6th to 5th in order to overtake on the highway, and some times when I push 2nd gear hard to 3rd it slips for a few seconds till it gets grip again. I know from the beginning that can only be the clutch.
Soon or later I need to change it.
But it sucks when it blows up completely like it happen to you man, lucky your where near home!
\m/ Ride in peace buddy
My bike is acting strange. It runs through all the gears but if I give it a bunch of gas in first gear the bike will pop a wheelie but then I here this horrible sound like " a hammer hitting a nail" and the bike gets stuffed up like the engine seized or something. It's not enough to throw me off because as soon as I come off the gas and go again it's fine as long as I don't give it too much. Any thoughts?
I was going about 80 on the freeway let go of the throttle little bit too kind of slow down and it just lost power but as soon as I turn the throttle back up its zoomed what is that cause? Mt09
I would have definitely thought the Fuelpak just torched my bike. Glad you got it figured out. Surprised you didn't swear more :)
My 650 vstar has been doing EXACTLY what your bike was doing off and on.. But because some days it runs fine and other days it runs just like this video Im curious if its the clutch or something in the carbs maybe? any help would be appreciated!
Thanks for the video. Absolutely the clutch. Just called my local shop to order the Barnett clutch kit and basket
For some strange reason my clutch cable tightened up. I had thought forsure as the friction plates wore down the cable would become loose. I didn't smell the clutch but if I was doing over 60mph in 5th and pinned it the digital screen would say it dropped down to 4th gear and the bike would Rev really loud. I loosened up my clutch cable a bit to get more play in the lever and it seems to have solved my issue. When I couldn't smell burnt clutch it made me feel like something was out of adjustment. I've just never had a clutch cable go tighter on its own like that before
My bike make noises when i pressed the clutch since i changed with the new clutch plate. I has more power but i makes noises when i pressed the clutch especially when i put in first or second gear and i done evrything i my knowledge but couldn't make the noise disappere.
I had this same issue. People kept telling me it wasn't the clutch that it was the FP3. It was definitely the clutch! I think the extra power from the stage 1 made the grenade ring blow up. I would recommend everyone with the stock clutch replace it before this happens. The fragments from spring plate will eat up your clutch basket and that's a 300 dollar part. The clutch plates are easy to replace and cheap compared to having to replace the basket and the clutch plates.
Jessica Hansen ....so factory clutches are no good? Which ones should we replace them with?
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I used a Barnett extra clutch plate kit. But you can use any clutch you want. However the stock clutch has a riveted spring plate which is the main problem with the stock clutch. That plate wears down over time and the plate falls apart. Then all those pieces cause your clutch to slip and also it eats away at the clutch basket. Most people experience this around 15000 miles, however my bike had almost 25000 before this problem presented itself.
Jessica Hansen .... Cool, thanks for the info. I'm looking for a Barret Extra Clutch Plate but I can't seem to find one for my bike (2009 Kawasaki Er-6n )
Jessica Hansen if i go from clutch adjustment from handle and engine did it work?
Can someone share a video with a clearly damaged bike clutch system? Im about to check my R6 clutch basket and I would like to know what to expect.
I love cruisers man, but I think u should try out a super naked like a new 2018 speed triple, it's awesome man.
Thank you so much for this video I have been dealing w a “slipping clutch” without realizing it was a slipping clutch after I swapped my handlebars to 14” on a iron 883 and started haveing clutch issues broke down on my for two group rides but I would just adjust my he clutch cable and would be back running it wasn’t till the third breakdown and adjustment that it no longer engages and it was doing exactly that that clutch wasn’t responding to the higher rpm’s and would like go into a limp mode up until it just did not engage at all
Thanks for posting this video. The exact same thing happened to me.
Wow can't believe how long it took him to realise that it was the clutch. Lmao
Right ? What a squidbilly
As smart and motorcycle savvy he is he couldnt figure it out.Sometimes something random like having autotune on can throw off your thinking.I bet if he wasn't running auto tune he would have figured it out going through the first light.I hated my sportster was my first bike I didnt know better.
@@dustinlines2181 ye, i bet it was just cause it was a recent install he figured it was related. goes to show you just how smart you think you are.. there's always something.
Lucky it didn't overheat
That's the problem when you're doing work and something else fails. You tend to blame the last thing you touched.
That was painful to watch but I respect him for posting a video of him struggling with the wrong answer.
Thanks so much for having the courage to post the video of your personal experience with the clutch issue! Impressive that the bike still got you home.
Even though I've read some about the "grenade" plate in the clutch blowing out and also about clutch adjustment, this would be a new experience for me as my first bike was a new 2016 Iron 883 in March of 2016. I just got my Iron back from 5K service and to me the clutch still feels like it only catches at the top (last bit of letting the lever out). I was really hoping they'd adjust that since I mentioned it...no dice. Either they didn't adjust the clutch at all or I just don't understand it and it is supposed to be like that on a sportster (though I thought caught sooner on the lever in first few months of riding). I had already tried adjusting the lever / cable but all that did was provide more free play in the lever or not. I don't think it's supposed to be like this as my new dyna catches right away when releasing the lever. I may have to just do the clutch upgrade like you did and then I can get this more to my liking. Do you know much about where the clutch should start grabbing (friction zone) on sportsters? (I know the 48 has a heavier clutch spring than the 883 but I would think the friction zone should be similar). I was considering clutch upgrade found on Hammer website, with heavier spring.
I've been having a problem with my kawasaki z900rs wherein I shift (usually from 5th to 6th) and my bike gets stuck in between gears and i hear a crunchy noise. The gear indicator shows no gear when this happens and the bike revs up like its in neutral. I pull the clutch back in and suddenly the indicator shows that the bike is in 5th and the motorcycle rolls right along. After this happens I will very aggressively and precisely shift into 6th and it will go into gear. Can anyone help me understand whats going on?
Rough especially for an air cooled bike. That sucks man. Cool you got it replaced
Super old post. But did u ever change the clutch!? Was it the real problem here? Thanks
How many miles did u have on your bike when the clutch was going out? How often do u change your primary?
question when my bike is cold i could pop a wheelie. and when i ride my bike for awhile i cant get the front wheel of the ground... suggestions?
When friction plates start to wear down they start to slip when they’re warm. You might want to replace those, that should fix your problem.
This is so cool to watch
I have the same problem I pulled over afraid that I was gonna damage it so I let it cool down and putted the rest of the way home now I'm taking it to a shop and hoping that it won't be costly
You had no idea it was the clutch ?! Funny I have no second gear and all that in the end you figured it out and the reason you exploded it :) It was an experience for sure !
Good morning my friend can tell me if the part cod honda 22000 MCJ 305, fits in our CBR954 2003 I'm from Brazil
What if your trying to accelerate really fast but you feel as the bike isn’t pushing its full power that it should 🤔
intake/exhaust, fuel, weight, gearing
Bad/old Chain/sprockets as well can cause this, just had to change mine that didn't LOOK to bad but was completely in need of replacing, rides like night and day difference.
where did you buy a tool and the new clutch?
I've had people tell me they've gone 100,000 miles on a clutch. Why did this one wear out so soon? Also...what's an auto-tuner?
In any time riding, did you feel a hard shifting? Cuz i have a 48 1200cc and sometimes is hard shifting even i made the adjustment with a screw. Don't know if are the platesnor the entire clutch :s
How many miles were on it when this happened dan?
Are the Barnett Clutches better than OEM? I found the whole kit for less than if I bought all the plates OEM. Thoughts? It's an 04 R6 FWIW
Ok question so I just got a pit bike and it needed a little work done like fixing the slack in the chain and changing the break oil. Now after fixing those the bike started to jump when changing gears and was wounding if anyone had a idea why
“Every gear is first gear” 😂😂 that must have sucked . I’m having a problem getting into neutral and first gear clunks hard when shifting into it . Video helped a lot. Thanks .
I had to replace my clutch I had major problems with it slipping so I replaced it it has worked fine for the past 600 miles. All of a sudden yesterday I was riding and my bike started making a deeper noise it doesn't feel like the clutch is slipping when I accelerate but the bike feels weird. I can get to 40 in first gear but it won't redline. Anybody have any ideas what could be wrong.
Did you figure out the problem?
Thank you for sharing! I experienced this yesterday and I thought that it was just some water that got into the intake. I think I need to replace mine too
Just bought a used bike with 10k miles. It's not slipping like this but the clutch engagement is so far up on release which I do not like at all. Is this a cable adjustment or overly worn one? Or is this a sign of worn clutch plates that are towards end of life?
The first place where your going to notice slippage is in high gear under heavy acceleration. The last place (totally fried) is when it slips in first gear. Then no drive.
If you notice slippage change clutch asap because the fiber is circulating around in the oil.
How much to replace?
@@toniod.mitchell1396 About $200 for parts. Labor depends who does it.
"I feel like my clutch is f*cked", funny how we sometimes diagnose our problems without realizing it.
On time with a new pair of boots I was holding down the bake brake and it of course melted to the pads but I thought something was wrong with my motor, was pretty happy to find out it was the brakes nonetheless.
Have you ever taken your clutch basket off then put it back on and find out that your clutch won't engage even though you never took the basket apart? I had to change my stator and now I don't have a clutch
Dan dan how long did you go into auto tune I did 160 miles in a day ran like crap stalled so I took it off
Wow I hope this never happens to mine. But when I was shifting into second and third ⚙️ I press the gas and I has a 2 second delay before it starts pulling. I don’t think it was like that before
I know your video is about the clutch, but I wanted to ask about the Autotune. My local bike performance shop told me not to bother adding an Autotune to my Power Commander V on my 03 R1. They said this is because the Autotune adjusts the tune much too slowly, so slowly that I'm better off just setting a dynotune in the PC V and going with that.
Is that your opinion as well? Or is the slow tune adjustment still good to have because doesn't a vehicle's ECU take a little while to adjust it's A/F ratio anyway? I mean, don't they take 15-20 mins in newer vehicle's ECU'S too?
It has always been my thought that even automobiles that are adjusting themselves to new atmospheres and altitudes take readings for 15+ mins before setting a tune.
For example: My 96 Dodge Ram 1500 used to stall out for at least 15 mins after I replaced the battery, and then it would run fine. I was in belief that was the learning curve of it's cleared computer.
He is making it up the hill and he only got 2 legs... hahahaha thanks for vid, thumbs up
Is there any other issue that would cause revs to climb and speed to stay constant? That sounds like it could only be a slipping clutch or shot transmission, no?
i have same problem u had..but my problem from carburetor ,the diaphragm was tear and got hole and all gear are same speed no pick up on any gear ,after changing the diaphragm all problems solved ,seeing same problem with different cause make me scare if i had the clutch problem
How many miles are on your bike Dan?
So funny knowing what’s wrong watching you think it’s the new tune.. ty for that lol and good video man!
F650cs only 4000 miles bought used was overfilled with oil but don't think that's the only problem think someone adjusted the clutch in way to far and burned the clutch plates bad not nearly how the video shows but worrisome for sure any suggestions on checking anything before replacement
This happend to my Kawisaki KLX 250 but what went wrong was springs were worn out so much that my clutch would slip so when your riding it you would top out a about 7kmh on the rev limiter in first gear
This just happen to me yesterday in 5th gear 2014 883 just hit 11k miles 😟 going to use all your links to fix it in the next few weeks
And Now we follow your How to replace Burnt Clutch Plates Video hahahahaha. I’ll get right on that. What a Skillet Head.