Lovely review Dustin, thank you very much! I love the cream blue background, very smooth, warm and not distracting. Makes me comfortable while watching your videos.
Thanks, Ivan. I have several backdrops from Impact that I use. I'm going to do a feature before long where I show my set and what I use to produce my videos.
Mr. Abbott, I'm really happy that more people have found your fantastic reviews. It has been less than a year since you were only at 3k subscribers. Congrats, you deserve it!
I'm really curious about the optics on the Canon The previous Canon 70-300 IS didn't get great reviews (In part, because if its age) and after learning on the Canon 75-300mm III, I really wasn't keen on buying another Canon Telephoto lens. I bought the Tamron because its so inexpensive, but I'm interested in seeing what Canon can offer.
Really enjoy your reviews. I'm new to DSLRs and its getting addicting buying new lenses and such. You've helped me make up my mind on a few lenses so far! Keep it up!
It's hard for me to recommend the Sigma even though it has great optics. I never got it to focus consistently, and that seems to be the case for at least 1 out of 3 shooters.
Hey I`m looking forward to your review of this. I agree the Tamron is a valid comparison, but I`d be much more interested in also hearing how this new 70-300ii stacks up against your 70-300L. I`ve shot with the L version and feel like I know it; I`m always on the verge of buying one for myself and so I`d really like to know how close this new non-L version comes to the older L version, optically.
I no longer have the 70-300L (I traded it in favor of the 100-400L II). I will do some brief comparisons to that lens, though it costs nearly 4x as much.
Hi Dustin, while this might not be apple to apple comparison, but lets say if one has tamron 28-300 PZD, would this canon 70-300 be something of a better option??
That depends on what you are looking for. The image quality from this lens is going to be better over the overlapping focal range, but you are also left having to cover 28-69mm with a second lens. There are a lot of situations where 70mm is going to feel too long.
Would be interested in IQ comparison between Canon 55-250mm STM vs 70-300mm IS ii, I know several casual wildlife photographers looking into the mark ii
That's a reasonable comparison, though one is designed for full frame while the other is APS-C. Unfortunately I no longer have a copy of the 55-250 STM.
To say focusing is fast is an understatement. If you leave focusing in ai servo and half press it will focus so fast and silent you will second guess it. On 77d. Really good lens for the price
Dustin, I use L glass for my business but don't like to take them on holiday. This is a lens I am considering for my summer holiday so would value your opinion on its sharpness compared to the tamron and any others you have. I understand it won't be as good as L glass but if it's good then it could serve as a good backup on a sunny day. Thank you in advance.
I think that a comparison between this mkII and the 70-300 L would be great. I expect the L to win easily, but at nearly 2x the price it would be interesting to see how far they are in terms of performance.
Unfortunately I sold my copy of the 70-300L to pick up the 100-400L II. I'll probably compare the focal length overlap of those two lenses, but it isn't an apples to apples comparison.
Hi Dustin! if you could analyze how well the Image stabilization works especially at the longer focal lengths. How improved is it? Also how does AF work vs Manual modes? i've always enjoyed your in depth reviews. i've been looking out for this particular lens because of its versatility and compact size. thanks and more power.
I'll definitely test that, Jude, though I can't directly compare with the previous generation as I don't have one on hand. I will compare it to the Tamron's VC, though.
Great video. Looking forward to the final review. Can you show the lenses ability to track fast moving subjects? Especailly in comparison to the Tamron? Keep up the good work! :)
Would you say that it performs a lot better than the previous version on a full frame? I currently own the older model is it worth upgrading is their much difference is quality on photos?
Thank you Mr. Dustin for your answer. I have one more question. Can I use Canon EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM lens in EOS 1100D camera. If yes, then what will be the image quality?
hi dustin , please can you tell which one has better image stabilization in video the tamron 70-300 di vc or the canon 70-300 is ii usm . iam using canon 750d
Hey Dustin, I have the 70-300ii USM (shooting on an 80D) that you reviewed and think that it is a great lens overall! however, I have noticed that when the IS is on, it makes a rather loud, almost crunchy sound. have you noticed anything similar?
It absolutely not should be making that noise. The copy I have is almost completely silent (you can only barely hear with your ear pressed right up against the barrel).,
Appreciated your effort. How it is for video? I mean the smoothness of zoom. I surprised also because it is not compatible with the power zoom adaptor.
How much focus breathing between the lenses (if possible also with the L lens). you mentioned already the magnification numbers but what lens will get the real bigger magnification when used as a semi marco (so shortest focus point and at 300mm) what will get the biggest magnification.
I have to agree with you on the focus by wire on this lens, it is a bit awkward in it's use. However; I really don't see this being a lens that I would be manual focusing to often. I have been shooting this on my 5D mkii and 60D for about six weeks now and look forward to watching your analysis of this lens as you review it. Happy shooting.
As I am a newbie, I would like your suggestion on buying this lens versus canon 55-250mm IS STM. I have canon 80D. interests are -- bird shootings, landscapes, vibrant nature. Thank You.
Dustin Abbott : yes, u sakd in terms of auto focus. may I ask in terms of image quality and then in terms of auto focus, is it worth, as a newbie tl spend 300 bucks extra? mostly u emphasised kn nano usm's properties, which is excellent. But when it comes to still photography and zoom range (extra 50mm) as required by a person entering photograohy, I need your insight, you being kne of the experts. In your shoes, it might not make much diff, but i am seriously interested to develop the hobby, but being student, not being broken (interms of money as well as initial bond that I.make wid photography) is imp. Sorry for asking few redundant Qtns and thanks for replying earlier.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I looked, but can you tell me here in the comments which is the better lens, which makes sharper images (Tamron 70-300mm di vc usd or Canon EF 70-300mm IS II USM?
Looking forward for your review. The obvious thing to test is the sharpness at 300mm since that's the Tamron's weak spot. Otherwise I'd like a bokeh comparison on a high contrast background (worst case scenario). I've shot the Tamron on sunny days after watering my lawn, and the small water droplets in the grass created bokeh highlights that looked terrible (they had dark spots in the center) when taking picture of my kids (full body portraits).
Both of those things are on the agenda for sure. I never loved the bokeh from the Tamron when I owned it, and that was perhaps the single biggest improvement when I moved to the Canon 70-300L lens.
I have the 70-200 f4 IS and use the Canon 1.4X III to make it equivalent to a 200mm. Would like to see this lens compare to the 70-200 f4 L with 1.4X III.
Hi Dustin. I'll look forward to your review of the canon lens but can I ask you if you found a solution for the 'sticky' zoom barrel on your copy of the Tamron lens. I have the exact same problem with mine and find it annoying. I will look at the Canon but at twice the price of the Tamron the Mrs will kill me if I buy another 70-300!!
How long have you had yours? The copy I have is just a loaner, and I can't exactly recall if my own copy ever resolved this issue. They will sometimes free up with use, but that may also be the nature of the beast with this lens.
I only bought it last July Dustin but it hasnt had a lot of use as yet. I use it at airshows and felt it was putting a strain on the mount of my 750D. Ive tried just turning it through the full range a number of times and it has eased it a little bit.
Thanks Dustin. I'll be giving it a lot hopefully so will also be interested in how you find the comparison with the new Canon lens. I do like the IQ of the Tamron and the autofocus and IS and I think it was a steal at the price here in the UK. 239ukl and I got a 62mm kenko filter with it. Thanks again.
Dustin Abbott, in your professional opinion, is the new 70-300mm F 4-5.6 IS ii lens, with its new nano usm tech, a better choice than the 200mm f/2.8 USM 'L' ii prime? Also, what lens would you recommend for bird/wildlife photography on a budget? I was considering getting the 200mm f/2.8 USM 'L' ii prime with a 1.4 or 2.0x canon extender to save $. Any thoughts? Recommendations?
A better choice for what? The prime lens opens to f/2.8, which is a huge difference from the maximum aperture of f/5.6. For many applications I do think this zoom is a more practical choice, but for certain things (portraits, for one, or sports where you need more light), the prime will be better.
I apologize; I wasn't clear. I was referring to using the prime lens with an extender for wildlife and bird photography, as well as some landscape photography. I am aware that the f/2.8 aperture that the 200mm lens has to offer is outstanding. However, would it still get me great quality results if I use a 1.4 or 2.0x ii extender on the 200mm (taking into consideration the loss of that f/2.8 aperture when using the extender)? Or would I be better off getting the new Canon 70-300mm F 4-5.6 IS ii lens?
If you are mostly going to shoot wildlife I'd go with this lens instead. Handholding the prime with an extender (and IS) will get tough. You'll enjoy the versatility of this lens more.
Not sure if someone already mentioned it - Tamron has actually wider apertures at most focal lengths, going to 4.5 at 135mm and 5.0 at 200mm, while Canon drops to 5.6 at 135mm already. But I don't think that's a decisive factor - I own the Tamron, and below 7.1 it's almost unusable. And at 300mm, it's still unusable even stopped down to f9.0. But I still like, I got a pretty good deal, so I'm not planning to exchange it.
Hi Dustin! Could you eventually check whether the Canon suffers from focus breathing? It would be interesting to see, if the Canon provides "real" 300mm near minimal focus distance! Thx for all your efforts!!!
Hey Dustin, I was very interested in this lens as well. But everyone that has got it says its better then previous. But still not as good as the current 70-300L which is surprising since the L version is getting quiet old. If you can test on both 5D4 and 80D that would be great. Also would like to see how the IS holds up while shooting video. In addition to how it fairs shooting into or around harsh sunlight. That said, looking forward to your review. EDIT: One more thing. Can you compare the tele end of the lens at 300 with the 100-400L II at 400? Like to see how much more magnification you can get by going to the 100-400 on both APS-C and FullFrame. Also would like to see how much sharper the 100-400 is. Just so viewers can get an idea of what they should spend their money on. Thanks.. Joe
If it doesn't have the contact points, than unfortunately is not compatible with that power zoom Canon introduced with the new 18-135mm. Nice first look, and looking forward to the next videos about this lens, even if I'm saving for another zoom lens right now.
Dustin Abbott It does seem odd, but it's Canon. They like to throw the stone and then hide their hands. It would have made sense if they had released in this year another lens that supported that power zoom. I think it was more aimed to the amateurish market, or better those people who don't have nor want to have a lot of lenses for their videos. But I have the 18-135 (previous version) and I find that 135mm pretty limiting, for example nice moon or sun shots, or also some wild-life or landscape photography. I'd like to invest in the sigma 150-600 C version. For just 850 euros, or 1192 Canadian dollars, it's a bargain!
Well, that's the best use I could come up with... I don't think any of the on-lens display infos will be terribly nessecary while you are using a viewfinder.
I'm anxious to see what your image quality findings are. I am in love with my Sigma 150-600mm but it is just soooooo big and heavy that it's very impractical to take on our long Superstition hikes. Something like this may be a great compromise between size and reach.
I suspect that you may be happy with my findings on that front. Some have reported that it didn't gain much in sharpness, but that isn't my experience at all thus far.
Re. price difference. In the UK I see that the Canon is £499 against £269 for the Tamron and that's without the lens hood. Can the Canon really be almost twice as good? Another great video.
Looking forward for the full review!!! Hope you try some less expensive bodies than 5D.... To me make me more sense a 500 lens pared with a US$1-1.5k body than a US$4k body.
Hey Dustin, it would be interesting to see IQ comparison between this lens and the L version (70-300 f4.5 - 5.6 L IS USM) on FF and crop sensor bodies since on the crop sensor it is a wonderfull focal lenght for wildlife and sports
thanks :) and I agree with what you said about people complaining. What I'm also courious about in this lens is the speed of AF, since I am considering buying it or the 70-200 f4 L for indor and outdor sports photography and i need a lens that has quck AF... what would be your recomendation? my camera is a canon 7D mark II
Canon doesnt really use that filter size that much. Its mostly Nikon who uses it for their lenses. Still its much more common size than obscure small sized filters seen on micro4/3 lenses or large 86mm and 95mm onces found on some Canon/Sigma/Tamron lenses.
I am an ardent follower of your review... Please test this lens for wildlife scenario like bird photography or something... It's focusing speed/usability and photo quality on apsc body like 80D... Thanks
+Dustin Abbott Hmm, if it is sensitive enough the shake display might be able to warn for small amounts of shake when shooting on a tripod (e.g. floor moving a little from someone walking nearby on a deck, trains or subways that you're too used to, something like that maybe).
This is probably a repetitious comment, but not counting your upcoming full review, "others" (The Digital Picture dot com among others) seem to indicate optically, this lens has the same letdown as the new 24-105mm EF lens, IOW, no improvement overall. The wisdom seems to be, if your on on crop bodies, stick to your 55-250STM (difference between 250-300mm not worth it on crop), and if you are on FF, continue to save for the L lens if optical quality is your thing.
I've been doing some extended tests today and have concluded that I'm surprised by this result. The copy I have is significantly sharper than the Tamron at all apertures, and the Tamron has always compared favorably to the V1 of the Canon. The copy I'm reviewing (on a 5D Mark IV) is actually fairly impressive.
That's great Dustin! Strike up another one for copy variability-although I have noticed Bryan C. does get his fair share of bum "budget" lenses, and Tamron lenses always fare poorly in his tests. Maybe I will reconsider it then for my FF camera.
I'll let you draw your own conclusions when I release my comparison shortly. My copy of the 100-400L II is superior (obviously), but the 70-300 IS II holds its own reasonably well.
no weather sealing on the Canon or the Tamron.. Its not a pro lens for someone headed to Alaska. But more aimed for someone headed to their local park in nice weather. :-)
I think you misunderstand what a "First Look" video is. This isn't my final review, but rather a overview of the lens design, build, and specifications at the beginning of my review period. It also gives viewers a chance to weigh in on what they would like to see covered in my final review. My full review won't come for several weeks.
no offense dustin, but i do think that video was just too much talk about features & all that way...more samples and 1:1 comparsion with the tamron in terms of pictures or 1:1 crops canon vs tamron would have been much better. I do also own the Tamron 70-300 VC mentioned here. some sources onto the web saying that the new Canon Mk. II iteration is a bit less sharp than latest versions (late build date) from the current, older 70-300/4.5-5.6 IS USM Mark I iteration. The nano USM is a fine feature in terms of AF speed, but the LCD display is pretty much useless, as well as the shake indicator.
I think you misunderstand what a "First Look" video is. This isn't my final review, but rather a overview of the lens design, build, and specifications at the beginning of my review period. It also gives viewers a chance to weigh in on what they would like to see covered in my final review. My full review won't come for several weeks.
Nope Dustin, i've just expected some samples more with an 1:1, not a full review of course - i leave this for the "usual suspects" - DPreview, Lenstip, LensRentals & Photozone for instance - nothing bad meant. ;-) Anyway, i do think it'll be a good lens for the asking price. Might someday upgrade from my Tamron, but currently seeing no need for this to-do so.
i wish that was true the canon 100-400 II started out at £1550 then it rose to £1600 3 months later then it rose to £1650 then it went to £1750 know it is at £1875 with a £200 cash back offer talk about being a indian giver what is your take on this? When the price was around the £1750 mark I bought a new Australian version a gray import for £1250. sent it back because the focus was very slow on my 7d and 600d ended up getting the sigma 150-600 C
Lovely review Dustin, thank you very much! I love the cream blue background, very smooth, warm and not distracting. Makes me comfortable while watching your videos.
Thanks, Ivan. I have several backdrops from Impact that I use. I'm going to do a feature before long where I show my set and what I use to produce my videos.
Thank you Dustin, looking forward to it!
Mr. Abbott, I'm really happy that more people have found your fantastic reviews. It has been less than a year since you were only at 3k subscribers. Congrats, you deserve it!
Thank you. Yes, 2016 was a solid year for my channel.
I'm really curious about the optics on the Canon The previous Canon 70-300 IS didn't get great reviews (In part, because if its age) and after learning on the Canon 75-300mm III, I really wasn't keen on buying another Canon Telephoto lens. I bought the Tamron because its so inexpensive, but I'm interested in seeing what Canon can offer.
Definitely. The whole reason I brought in the Tamron was to provide a point of reference so I wasn't reviewing the lens in a vacuum.
Really enjoy your reviews. I'm new to DSLRs and its getting addicting buying new lenses and such. You've helped me make up my mind on a few lenses so far! Keep it up!
Glad to help out.
I am planning on getting a 35mm lens, either the Sigma 35mm f/1.4 or the Canon 35mm f/1.4 USM (OLD VERSION). Which would you recommend?
It's hard for me to recommend the Sigma even though it has great optics. I never got it to focus consistently, and that seems to be the case for at least 1 out of 3 shooters.
Dustin Abbott Ok thank you!!
hey Dustin, is the image sharp for sport shooting or should i get the tamron 18-400, i hear the tamron is sharp, let me know thanks
This lens is much sharper than the Tamron 18-400. Whoever says that the 18-400 is sharp doesn't know what they are talking about.
@@DustinAbbottTWI thanks Dustin..i'll buy the 100-400 sigma
@@DustinAbbottTWI thanks Dustin, also what you think of the canon 70-30 usm is2, is it sharp enough for sports??
It's a nicely sharp lens, so yes.
Hey I`m looking forward to your review of this. I agree the Tamron is a valid comparison, but I`d be much more interested in also hearing how this new 70-300ii stacks up against your 70-300L. I`ve shot with the L version and feel like I know it; I`m always on the verge of buying one for myself and so I`d really like to know how close this new non-L version comes to the older L version, optically.
I no longer have the 70-300L (I traded it in favor of the 100-400L II). I will do some brief comparisons to that lens, though it costs nearly 4x as much.
Hi Dustin, while this might not be apple to apple comparison, but lets say if one has tamron 28-300 PZD, would this canon 70-300 be something of a better option??
That depends on what you are looking for. The image quality from this lens is going to be better over the overlapping focal range, but you are also left having to cover 28-69mm with a second lens. There are a lot of situations where 70mm is going to feel too long.
Would be interested in IQ comparison between Canon 55-250mm STM vs 70-300mm IS ii, I know several casual wildlife photographers looking into the mark ii
That's a reasonable comparison, though one is designed for full frame while the other is APS-C. Unfortunately I no longer have a copy of the 55-250 STM.
thank you, looking forward to your full review since I am currently debating purchasing used 70-300L or this new 70-300 is II
@@catleet2004 I'm looking at these 2 aswell- What did you go for in the end?
To say focusing is fast is an understatement. If you leave focusing in ai servo and half press it will focus so fast and silent you will second guess it. On 77d. Really good lens for the price
Absolutely.
Thank you for this video.
I always enjoy your videos.
Just a few days ago I just purchased a used copy on eBay.
Good for you!
Dustin, I use L glass for my business but don't like to take them on holiday. This is a lens I am considering for my summer holiday so would value your opinion on its sharpness compared to the tamron and any others you have. I understand it won't be as good as L glass but if it's good then it could serve as a good backup on a sunny day. Thank you in advance.
That's a fair request, and one I hope to answer.
Great review Dustin. I'm really curious if it works properly with a Kenko TC like the Pro 300 2x or 1.4x, Thanks!
That's a good suggestion. I do still have a Kenko 1.4x.
Canon TC's don't physically fit, but the Kenko fits pretty much everything.
Hi Dustin, will this lens be compatible with any teleconverters on the market?
IIRC, I don't think there was enough room at the back of the lens to mount a TC, but I don't have it on hand to check.
I already have a canon efs 55-250mm stm lens. Is the quality of 70-300 mm better than 55-250 mm ?
Yes, though not in a massive way. I would buy it more if A) you want the extra reach or B) you think you might move to full frame in the future.
Sir This lens good for bird photography
Sure!
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thank you
My 70-300 is not showing the crop factor equivalent zoomed distance on my apsc canon 77d in the display window.Can you suggest the reason
THANKS
That's more a question for Canon. It's been too long since I've had a copy of this lens in my hands.
I think that a comparison between this mkII and the 70-300 L would be great. I expect the L to win easily, but at nearly 2x the price it would be interesting to see how far they are in terms of performance.
Unfortunately I sold my copy of the 70-300L to pick up the 100-400L II. I'll probably compare the focal length overlap of those two lenses, but it isn't an apples to apples comparison.
Hi Dustin! if you could analyze how well the Image stabilization works especially at the longer focal lengths. How improved is it? Also how does AF work vs Manual modes? i've always enjoyed your in depth reviews. i've been looking out for this particular lens because of its versatility and compact size. thanks and more power.
I'll definitely test that, Jude, though I can't directly compare with the previous generation as I don't have one on hand. I will compare it to the Tamron's VC, though.
Great video. Looking forward to the final review. Can you show the lenses ability to track fast moving subjects? Especailly in comparison to the Tamron?
Keep up the good work! :)
I'll definitely include that as I've already tested the lens a fair bit for that.
Awesome! Thanks!
Wonderful review. Thanks !
My pleasure
Would you say that it performs a lot better than the previous version on a full frame? I currently own the older model is it worth upgrading is their much difference is quality on photos?
I think there is an optical improvement, but you will also find an even bigger improvement in the build, focus speed, and image stabilizer.
Is this lens compatible with the Canon Extender EF 2X III?
No it is not.
Thank you Mr. Dustin for your answer. I have one more question. Can I use Canon EF70-200mm f/2.8L IS II USM lens in EOS 1100D camera. If yes, then what will be the image quality?
The 70-200 will work, yes, and the image quality is excellent on the 1100D.
hi dustin , please can you tell which one has better image stabilization in video the tamron 70-300 di vc or the canon 70-300 is ii usm . iam using canon 750d
The Tamron has better IS overall, though the Canon's is smoother.
thankyou for the reply back .much appreciated .I also wanted to ask on whether if tamron will work good in the Canon Live view mode on Canon 750D ? :)
Hey Dustin, I have the 70-300ii USM (shooting on an 80D) that you reviewed and think that it is a great lens overall! however, I have noticed that when the IS is on, it makes a rather loud, almost crunchy sound. have you noticed anything similar?
It absolutely not should be making that noise. The copy I have is almost completely silent (you can only barely hear with your ear pressed right up against the barrel).,
Appreciated your effort. How it is for video? I mean the smoothness of zoom. I surprised also because it is not compatible with the power zoom adaptor.
The zoom action is smooth, and the video focus shifts are of course very smooth due to the Nano USM technology.
thanks
the very first review in RUclips. as promised. u awesome
I wouldn't quite call it a review, yet, but thanks nonetheless!
Thank you for your response.
How much focus breathing between the lenses (if possible also with the L lens).
you mentioned already the magnification numbers but what lens will get the real bigger magnification when used as a semi marco (so shortest focus point and at 300mm) what will get the biggest magnification.
I've been exploring that today, actually. There is definitely some focus breathing going on, though not as much as the L version.
Thanks. Will look forward to the complete in depth review of the 3 lenses.
I have to agree with you on the focus by wire on this lens, it is a bit awkward in it's use. However; I really don't see this being a lens that I would be manual focusing to often.
I have been shooting this on my 5D mkii and 60D for about six weeks now and look forward to watching your analysis of this lens as you review it. Happy shooting.
I agree, Mark. The AF works so well that I doubt most users will reach for the MF ring very often.
Hi I have a Canon m6 or will work with the camera volume, of course I have an adapter.
It should work pretty well via adapter.
Hi dustin seen this vid you have done a good job good to see you addressed the image quality first.
As I am a newbie, I would like your suggestion on buying this lens versus canon 55-250mm IS STM. I have canon 80D. interests are -- bird shootings, landscapes, vibrant nature.
Thank You.
I think I've answered your question on another video.
Dustin Abbott : yes, u sakd in terms of auto focus. may I ask in terms of image quality and then in terms of auto focus, is it worth, as a newbie tl spend 300 bucks extra? mostly u emphasised kn nano usm's properties, which is excellent. But when it comes to still photography and zoom range (extra 50mm) as required by a person entering photograohy, I need your insight, you being kne of the experts. In your shoes, it might not make much diff, but i am seriously interested to develop the hobby, but being student, not being broken (interms of money as well as initial bond that I.make wid photography) is imp.
Sorry for asking few redundant Qtns and thanks for replying earlier.
Image quality is roughly equal, though you will get less vignette and chromatic aberrations with the 70-300 as it is designed for full frame.
thnaks a lot!
Dustin, can you compare the IS of the new Canon with the VC of the Tarmron and maybe even the IS of the 100-400 L lens you own?
+The Sublime Quest definitely.
Hello, can you tell me which lens is better: Tamron 70-300mm di vc usd or Canon EF 70-300mm IS II USM, can you explain to me here in the comments?
Just watch the final review in this series, and I detail that difference.
@@DustinAbbottTWI I looked, but can you tell me here in the comments which is the better lens, which makes sharper images (Tamron 70-300mm di vc usd or Canon EF 70-300mm IS II USM?
I have 18-135 and i want this lens too its awesome
The AF is pretty amazing
Looking forward for your review. The obvious thing to test is the sharpness at 300mm since that's the Tamron's weak spot. Otherwise I'd like a bokeh comparison on a high contrast background (worst case scenario). I've shot the Tamron on sunny days after watering my lawn, and the small water droplets in the grass created bokeh highlights that looked terrible (they had dark spots in the center) when taking picture of my kids (full body portraits).
Both of those things are on the agenda for sure. I never loved the bokeh from the Tamron when I owned it, and that was perhaps the single biggest improvement when I moved to the Canon 70-300L lens.
i had one query........i have _700d so, is 55-250 is better or the lens shown in this video (70-300) is better for image quality ??
IQ is rough the same in terms of sharpness, but expect faster focus from this lens, less vignette, and a bit less chromatic aberrations.
+Dustin Abbott result ????....which one to buy
That's up to you. If you ever think you will upgrade to full frame, buy the 70-300 II. If you don't, and want to save money, buy the 55-250 STM.
I have the 70-200 f4 IS and use the Canon 1.4X III to make it equivalent to a 200mm. Would like to see this lens compare to the 70-200 f4 L with 1.4X III.
I'm afraid I won't have opportunity to make that happen, as I don't have the 70-200 f/4 on hand.
Hi Dustin. I'll look forward to your review of the canon lens but can I ask you if you found a solution for the 'sticky' zoom barrel on your copy of the Tamron lens. I have the exact same problem with mine and find it annoying. I will look at the Canon but at twice the price of the Tamron the Mrs will kill me if I buy another 70-300!!
How long have you had yours? The copy I have is just a loaner, and I can't exactly recall if my own copy ever resolved this issue. They will sometimes free up with use, but that may also be the nature of the beast with this lens.
I only bought it last July Dustin but it hasnt had a lot of use as yet. I use it at airshows and felt it was putting a strain on the mount of my 750D. Ive tried just turning it through the full range a number of times and it has eased it a little bit.
JohnD I think that use may be the best medicine.
Thanks Dustin. I'll be giving it a lot hopefully so will also be interested in how you find the comparison with the new Canon lens. I do like the IQ of the Tamron and the autofocus and IS and I think it was a steal at the price here in the UK. 239ukl and I got a 62mm kenko filter with it. Thanks again.
It will continue to be a great value of a lens, even though it may not look quite as shiny compared to this lens in the end :)
Dustin Abbott, in your professional opinion, is the new 70-300mm F 4-5.6 IS ii lens, with its new nano usm tech, a better choice than the 200mm f/2.8 USM 'L' ii prime? Also, what lens would you recommend for bird/wildlife photography on a budget? I was considering getting the 200mm f/2.8 USM 'L' ii prime with a 1.4 or 2.0x canon extender to save $. Any thoughts? Recommendations?
A better choice for what? The prime lens opens to f/2.8, which is a huge difference from the maximum aperture of f/5.6. For many applications I do think this zoom is a more practical choice, but for certain things (portraits, for one, or sports where you need more light), the prime will be better.
I apologize; I wasn't clear. I was referring to using the prime lens with an extender for wildlife and bird photography, as well as some landscape photography. I am aware that the f/2.8 aperture that the 200mm lens has to offer is outstanding. However, would it still get me great quality results if I use a 1.4 or 2.0x ii extender on the 200mm (taking into consideration the loss of that f/2.8 aperture when using the extender)? Or would I be better off getting the new Canon 70-300mm F 4-5.6 IS ii lens?
If you are mostly going to shoot wildlife I'd go with this lens instead. Handholding the prime with an extender (and IS) will get tough. You'll enjoy the versatility of this lens more.
What about sharpness? On APS-C body? Have you had the opportunity to test this lens (70-300mm 4-5.6 IS ii lens) on a crop sensor?
Hi Dustin, Please include the 70-300 "L" lens in your future review to compare the new. Many Thanks.
I'm afraid I sold it in 2015 to purchase the 100-400L II. I will compare that lens a bit in the overlap.
the camera shake windoe is good if you are on a bridge or walkway on a tripod, even walking moves the structure
Great first look, I am looking forward to the review. In the Pine tree sample (the pine needle one), the bokeh looks quite nice!
I agree. The question will be how it does in the transition zone (a weakness for the Tamron)
Not sure if someone already mentioned it - Tamron has actually wider apertures at most focal lengths, going to 4.5 at 135mm and 5.0 at 200mm, while Canon drops to 5.6 at 135mm already. But I don't think that's a decisive factor - I own the Tamron, and below 7.1 it's almost unusable. And at 300mm, it's still unusable even stopped down to f9.0. But I still like, I got a pretty good deal, so I'm not planning to exchange it.
Fair enough. There are tradeoffs, to be sure.
The canon boast four stops of stabilization .
What does the tamaron have?
That's what Tamron claims, and it has long had one of the best stabilizers I've seen, though I will say the Canon is smoother in operation.
Dustin Abbott is was thinking of getting this lens looking forward to optical comparison
thank you
Hi Dustin! Could you eventually check whether the Canon suffers from focus breathing? It would be interesting to see, if the Canon provides "real" 300mm near minimal focus distance! Thx for all your efforts!!!
It definitely breathes a fair bit, and I've got coverage of that in detail already.
I use a Canon 600D, is this lens compatible with my 600D?
No, go away.
Will this lens work on the new m5 camera ?
A qualified "yes" - it will work great if you use the EF Adapter, but you will have to have the adapter.
Hey Dustin, I was very interested in this lens as well. But everyone that has got it says its better then previous. But still not as good as the current 70-300L which is surprising since the L version is getting quiet old. If you can test on both 5D4 and 80D that would be great. Also would like to see how the IS holds up while shooting video. In addition to how it fairs shooting into or around harsh sunlight. That said, looking forward to your review.
EDIT: One more thing. Can you compare the tele end of the lens at 300 with the 100-400L II at 400? Like to see how much more magnification you can get by going to the 100-400 on both APS-C and FullFrame. Also would like to see how much sharper the 100-400 is. Just so viewers can get an idea of what they should spend their money on. Thanks.. Joe
All of those things are definitely covered in my final review, which is in the "wrapping up stage"
Dustin Abbott Awesome can't wait..
If it doesn't have the contact points, than unfortunately is not compatible with that power zoom Canon introduced with the new 18-135mm.
Nice first look, and looking forward to the next videos about this lens, even if I'm saving for another zoom lens right now.
Doesn't it seem odd that Canon didn't make this lens compatible with the power zoom? I don't get it.
Dustin Abbott It does seem odd, but it's Canon. They like to throw the stone and then hide their hands. It would have made sense if they had released in this year another lens that supported that power zoom. I think it was more aimed to the amateurish market, or better those people who don't have nor want to have a lot of lenses for their videos. But I have the 18-135 (previous version) and I find that 135mm pretty limiting, for example nice moon or sun shots, or also some wild-life or landscape photography. I'd like to invest in the sigma 150-600 C version. For just 850 euros, or 1192 Canadian dollars, it's a bargain!
The 150-600mm lenses from Tamron and Sigma are amazing values for what they provide.
Perhaps that camera shake display is useful if the camera is on a tripod, but its windy and you aren't sure if the wind is shaking your camera or not.
That's a possibility, as is when shooting video. Still, I think most users are going to find that particular metric of questionable value.
Well, that's the best use I could come up with...
I don't think any of the on-lens display infos will be terribly nessecary while you are using a viewfinder.
Awesome review as always, always follow you, The Northrup's and thecamerastore...
That's very good company. I'm honored.
I'm anxious to see what your image quality findings are. I am in love with my Sigma 150-600mm but it is just soooooo big and heavy that it's very impractical to take on our long Superstition hikes. Something like this may be a great compromise between size and reach.
I suspect that you may be happy with my findings on that front. Some have reported that it didn't gain much in sharpness, but that isn't my experience at all thus far.
Re. price difference. In the UK I see that the Canon is £499 against £269 for the Tamron and that's without the lens hood. Can the Canon really be almost twice as good? Another great video.
That's really what I'm going to try to determine in my review, Peter.
Looking forward for the full review!!! Hope you try some less expensive bodies than 5D.... To me make me more sense a 500 lens pared with a US$1-1.5k body than a US$4k body.
I've got a 6D and an 80D I'll put it on a bit.
Dustin Abbott thanks! That will be more than perfect! Exactly what I intend to pair this lens : 80d.
Hey Dustin, it would be interesting to see IQ comparison between this lens and the L version (70-300 f4.5 - 5.6 L IS USM) on FF and crop sensor bodies since on the crop sensor it is a wonderfull focal lenght for wildlife and sports
I don't have the L version in hand any longer, though I am testing this lens on both full frame and APS-C.
oh ok. do you perhaps have some shots taken with he L lens and you could compare the images? if that is even a valid esting method :)
I can probably do something like that, though people are quick to complain if tests aren't very controlled :)
thanks :) and I agree with what you said about people complaining.
What I'm also courious about in this lens is the speed of AF, since I am considering buying it or the 70-200 f4 L for indor and outdor sports photography and i need a lens that has quck AF... what would be your recomendation? my camera is a canon 7D mark II
This is one of the fastest focusing lenses I've used. Incredibly fast. Nano USM is an incredibly technology for speed.
Will it work good with T6I?
Yes it will!
that 62mm filter dia is common for Nikon shooters. those older Tamron lenses used Nikon styled directions for zoom and focus rings.
I've reviewed a few lenses with 62mm filter threads, but not many.
Canon doesnt really use that filter size that much. Its mostly Nikon who uses it for their lenses. Still its much more common size than obscure small sized filters seen on micro4/3 lenses or large 86mm and 95mm onces found on some Canon/Sigma/Tamron lenses.
Looking forward to your review.
Stay tuned. It's probably a couple of weeks out.
Great First look video, can you please compare this on with the 70-300 L and 70-200 F4. Thanks! Keep up your good work :)
I am an ardent follower of your review... Please test this lens for wildlife scenario like bird photography or something... It's focusing speed/usability and photo quality on apsc body like 80D... Thanks
I can do that.
+Dustin Abbott Hmm, if it is sensitive enough the shake display might be able to warn for small amounts of shake when shooting on a tripod (e.g. floor moving a little from someone walking nearby on a deck, trains or subways that you're too used to, something like that maybe).
That seems like a possibility. It seems to have fairly good sensitivity.
I'm curious about the IQ compared to the Tamron. The old version of Canon and the current version of the Nikon are both outperformed by the Tamron.
I can safely tell you that this is no longer the case. I'll be putting out of a video on this shortly.
I'm unfortunately not a Canon shooter, Mr. Abbott, it's good to hear though. Looking forward to the IQ portion!
Dear Mr. Dustin, I have a doubt. Is the lens EF70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II USM compatable with Canon EOS 1100D camera? Can I use it in that camera?
You definitely can.
All EF and EF-S lenses are compatible with your Canon EOS 1100D camera.
This is probably a repetitious comment, but not counting your upcoming full review, "others" (The Digital Picture dot com among others) seem to indicate optically, this lens has the same letdown as the new 24-105mm EF lens, IOW, no improvement overall. The wisdom seems to be, if your on on crop bodies, stick to your 55-250STM (difference between 250-300mm not worth it on crop), and if you are on FF, continue to save for the L lens if optical quality is your thing.
I've been doing some extended tests today and have concluded that I'm surprised by this result. The copy I have is significantly sharper than the Tamron at all apertures, and the Tamron has always compared favorably to the V1 of the Canon. The copy I'm reviewing (on a 5D Mark IV) is actually fairly impressive.
That's great Dustin! Strike up another one for copy variability-although I have noticed Bryan C. does get his fair share of bum "budget" lenses, and Tamron lenses always fare poorly in his tests. Maybe I will reconsider it then for my FF camera.
I'll let you draw your own conclusions when I release my comparison shortly. My copy of the 100-400L II is superior (obviously), but the 70-300 IS II holds its own reasonably well.
Weather sealing?
Omesh Singh no i believe. ive never seen a non L canon weather sealed lens
Max Factor is right. This lens doesn't reverse that trend at all.
Does the Tamron also lack weather sealing?
Omesh Singh Yes.
no weather sealing on the Canon or the Tamron.. Its not a pro lens for someone headed to Alaska. But more aimed for someone headed to their local park in nice weather. :-)
Disappointed. I was really hoping for some image samples and comparisons with the original canon 70-300. Thanks for the video..
I think you misunderstand what a "First Look" video is. This isn't my final review, but rather a overview of the lens design, build, and specifications at the beginning of my review period. It also gives viewers a chance to weigh in on what they would like to see covered in my final review. My full review won't come for several weeks.
Please test it on sports "football and etc"
Will hockey do? :) There isn't much football going on around here when it is -20!!
Do you know how the Nano USM work with canon's teleconverters/extenders?
No, I don't, as neither of the lenses with Nano USM have been designed to work with Canon's extenders.
I see. Thank you!
Review it as quickly as possible
no offense dustin, but i do think that video was just too much talk about features & all that way...more samples and 1:1 comparsion with the tamron in terms of pictures or 1:1 crops canon vs tamron would have been much better. I do also own the Tamron 70-300 VC mentioned here. some sources onto the web saying that the new Canon Mk. II iteration is a bit less sharp than latest versions (late build date) from the current, older 70-300/4.5-5.6 IS USM Mark I iteration. The nano USM is a fine feature in terms of AF speed, but the LCD display is pretty much useless, as well as the shake indicator.
I think you misunderstand what a "First Look" video is. This isn't my final review, but rather a overview of the lens design, build, and specifications at the beginning of my review period. It also gives viewers a chance to weigh in on what they would like to see covered in my final review. My full review won't come for several weeks.
Nope Dustin, i've just expected some samples more with an 1:1, not a full review of course - i leave this for the "usual suspects" - DPreview, Lenstip, LensRentals & Photozone for instance - nothing bad meant. ;-) Anyway, i do think it'll be a good lens for the asking price. Might someday upgrade from my Tamron, but currently seeing no need for this to-do so.
just wanted to say its on amazon uk at £500 that is ouch.
+Technologyadvisor1 It seems like most new lenses have a pretty steep UK price point and then it relaxes a bit a year in
i wish that was true the canon 100-400 II started out at £1550 then it rose to £1600 3 months later then it rose to £1650 then it went to £1750 know it is at £1875 with a £200 cash back offer talk about being a indian giver what is your take on this?
When the price was around the £1750 mark I bought a new Australian version a gray import for £1250.
sent it back because the focus was very slow on my 7d and 600d ended up getting the sigma 150-600 C
Bro you always 1st with amazing reviews. but m still awaiting for my request, please consider me on your next upload 😢
I've already told you that I will not have access to that lens until March at the earliest. It's not even an option sooner than that.
Dustin Abbott sorry for disturbing busy day's. Go ahead with your works. God bless you always my brother.
All lens should be L
Then all lenses would be priced like "L"s :)