After running the short distance test again, I determined that there was some motion blur on the 70mm comparison. The overall sharpness results are about the same, though both lenses look a little better with out the motion blur, obviously. I'll show the new results in my final review. At 70mm the Tamron is very slightly sharper than the Canon at f/4. Results at other focal lengths (including the Tamron's CA) remained the same in the second test.
There could be some sample variation on earliest shipped models. But from what you shown. Thats performance for its price and the hugely impressive Nano USM focusing. I think its a great lens. I own the Tamron 70-300. It just does not hold up on the 80D. But I would not be ashamed of the new Canon 70-300 II at all. Thanks for the optical comparison.
There is always some sample variation, but I don't think it is extreme. LensRentals has already broken down this lens and found that it is very well constructed.
Dustin thank you. I bought this lens to photograph my sons youth football/soccer games and paired it with my Canon M50 II - It has been absolutely superb. The reach is amazing on the crop sensor M50 II and its right on the cusp of what's comfortable to handhold and balance on the M50. Build quality feels great, colours are superb and the AF is very quick. I alternate between taking this and the EF-M 55-200 which I take when I want a compact setup as it is extremely sharp (I only photography during the day with loads of light). Thanks for your reviews, it's reaffirmed my choice of the 70-300 IS II USM
Looking at this lens for my nephew's football matches also paired with an M50, I'm looking for a real world example of the image quality of how this combo would look.
Hey Dustin!!! You nailed the Canon 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II USM lens!!! A super great lens test you've done. As soon as I get the money I'm adding this grand lens to my 80D that I plan on buying as well.
You convinced me I am getting the Canon. Would you say there was a lot of difference in sharpness on the crop sensor camera or not. Would you say it it as sharp as my 55 to 250 that you reviewed.
For a long time I quite using this lens due to comments on the internet. I am happy to see your take on this one. I will go back to using it again as I was quite pleased.
Remember this: your own opinion on a lens matters more than anyone elses. If you are happy, who cares what someone like me (or another reviewer) thinks?
I bought this lens for my canon m50. It has actually replaced my G9 with Leica 100 400 though it was less than half the cost. I'm missing the 800mm range but loving the canons colour science. Thinking of the canon 100 400 L in the future with possibly a M50 mark ii if one is released. Many thanks for this review, Dustin.
I recently bought this lens coming from a Tamron 70-300 Di LD, so not the SP. I liked the Tamron for what it was but I had a real struggle with the immense fringing and chromatic aberration. Since I often shot carnivals in lower light with many colors and different lights the automatic defringing didn't work too great. I was between getting the Canon mark II and the Tamron but went with the Canon. Mainly because of the Nano USM and it being a first party lens. Now seeing this comparison and how much haze and chromatic aberration the Tamron still has, I think I made the right choice. I got the Canon for 400€ used (practically new, including a lens hood) and for this price its a great light lens.
used it for some months as partial replacement for the 70-300L, sharpness is basically similar (no complaints) but the AF performance is NOT the same. The L is getting more shots when you need to be quick.
I noticed that, when reviewing the two lenses at 70mm, you are saying that the Canon is better at this length, yet the onscreen graphic says the opposite, that the Tamron is better.
Tough call. The 70-300 has a faster aperture, but it also lacks the reach of the 100-400 and requires the adapter. I'm not really sure I can tell you which way to go.
Great. In 2023, I still choose 70-300 Nano. Can you compare the sharpness with the EF 70-200 F4 L IS? I don't know if the quality of the L lens can beat this 70-200 Nano? Thank you very much!
It definitely is still relevant. I haven't tested it on the 77D, but it should be fine.
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Thanks for another great review of a very interesting lens! i used to own the Tamron, which in many ways is a great lens, and I now own the 70-300 L lens, which of course is incrediibly good (btw your review of that lens helped me to decide on that, so thanks for that too :-). Nonetheless, I am considerimg purchasing this new lens as well, because I have been suspecting that it should peeform on almost L-level, but in a more travel friendly format, and I have been very surprised about some reviews, thinking that there most be something strange going on there. Your real world reviews are super important, because in the end, it is what your eyes see that matters. Hats off to you Dustin, you are the man!
+Richard Rönnbäck thanks for the feedback. So far I would say the biggest difference between the L-series lens and this lens is in the quality of the rendering. This lens may be nearly as sharp, but it doesn't render as smoothly as the more expensive option
Hi Dustin. This lens brand new costs about as the same as the 70-200mm L version 3 2nd hand now here in the uk. That's the 2nd version of IS. Which would you buy as I'm thinking of the L and a canon 1.4 teleconverter for when I want a little more reach. Thanks
To be honest I love my 70-300 non is canon kit lens the lack of image stabilization only pushed me to learn my camera's settings now it's time to step up to an is model thank you Dustin for all your reviews i
As the EF mount and its lenses are phased out, I find myself drawn perhaps to acquire these dark horse gems before they are no longer available. There's this lens and the 35IS which may be worth acquiring even in 2023. What do you think?
Hello Mr. Abbott. Many thanks for the video. Admittedly, I am a bit confused. I am a Canon shooter and use the Canon EOS 80d accompanied with the Canon EF-S 55~250mm, IS, STM Lens which I like a lot. I feel it is time for an upgrade and need to know if the new Canon 70~300mm, IS, USM II would be the way for me to go. My confusion is where you clearly indicated that the Tamron is also a good choice given the fact that its VC feature far out performs all others in this area. I do understand the side by side image comparisons (another great job) and wonder if dollar for dollar the Tamron would be a wiser financial option. Thanks very much again for your assistance and I continue to look forward to your presentations. Kind regards, Tony J Tarquinio.
Excellent video and I just subscribed! Given the price point of the 70-200f4 and the new 70-300 you reviewed being close to one another price-wise, does the 70-300 fair better given the newness and additional range?? I'm shooting on a 7dmkii. Thanks and great work!
I just made the switch to FF and I need to find a replacement for my 55-250mm stm lens. I know this won't have as much reach, but it won't break my bank! Thanks for this detailed review, you really put my nerves to rest. Hopefully this will pair nicely with my new RF 24-105L F4 lens!
Hello Dustin, what tamron 70-300 model are you using? A030 Model? Cause I'd like to know how Canon's 70-300 IS II USM compare to Tamron's 70-300 SP A030 (the one with silver ring). Thanks.
Hi Nico, unfortunately that was several years ago and I can't really tell you now which it was. You might be able to tell from the comparison photos. I suspect it was the older version, however.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for the reply. I've been looking for a review of Tamron 70-300 Model A030 (improved Model A005) to compare with Canon 70-300 is usm II but unfortunately haven't seen one. Probably, because Model A030 is only available in the japanese market. Also, thanks for the review of 70-300 IS USM II. I will be getting this lens in a few days. Cheers.
Great review! This is really helpful, I'm a sports photographer looking to upgrade from starter 50mm lens and after seeing your videos on this lens I've definitely found the right fit for my next purchase.
Thanks for this review. I'm looking at purchasing this lens. However as it goes with greater detail from a higher megapixel camera as you have used how might it perform on my older Canon 7D ? Thanks
Thanks a lot for this video... Do you have any idea the IQ of this mark 2 version compared to the mark 1? I'm thinking of upgrading my current 70-300 IS USM (mark 1) to either this mark 2 or the 70-200 f/4L IS. I use the 6D. Thanks again.
I only used the MK 1 a couple of times and never formally tested it. The probably with the MK 1 is that there was a huge amount of sample variation, so how much of an upgrade the MK 2 is really depends on how good your MK 1 is.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Cheers so much for replying. Much appreciated! I will consider it further along with the f/4L IS. I think I'll miss the extra 100mm tele!
Thank you for your work to debunk the very negative thumbs down reports. Are you motivated to see if the new 24-105mm F 4.0 is as bad as early reports as well, or are you satisfied those reports are accurate?
It s was so usefull. I take photo with this lense on f8 .and to be hounest it s woonderfull . I do think the qulity is so close to l series tanks mate🌹🍷
Just a great review. One question. I have the older 75-300mm IS usm lens which has been considered as a terrible lens as well but I have never seen a review on the IS Version on youtube. It has been quite good for me at around 5.6 as well. I wonder if the difference is much greater or quite similar to this 70-300mm canon. I have a cânon 7D and about to get a M6 or 6D.
That's a tough call. The 70-200 F4 IS is sharper and has a constant aperture, but is larger, heavier, and more expensive. This lens focuses faster and more quietly. The L lens will hold its value very well.
I am wondering if the Tamron isn't performing up to par because of the 50MPs. I'm curious on how they perform in comparison on a 6D or 5D III or even a 1DX II, a 35mm sensor with less MPs.
+floex831 i've always found the Tamron to be a good value and a good performer for the money. The point of this test however is not to put down the Tamron but to demonstrate that the new Canon is certainly a sharp lens
Thanks for posting this. It confirms my own conclusions that the centre sharpness of the new EF 70-300 is pretty good. I compared it with my EF 300mm f4L and was very impressed how close it came. Other posters have mentioned sample variation giving rise to all the talk of it being soft, I think they are correct. I think I got lucky and got a sharp one.
There shouldn't be a huge amount of sample variation, though, as a teardown of the lens showed that it is very well constructed. I think that sometimes things get going on the Internet that aren't fully based in reality.
I would say that judging images by Flickr is difficult, as most of those images have been edited by the users who uploaded them. I don't recall feeling that way when I had both lenses together, though.
Thanks a lot Dustin for your excellent review and answer. One more question, which one is better Canon EF 70-300 IS USM (old) vs Canon EF 70-300 IS II USM (New version). Old one is ~50$ cheaper. In the new version, I am worried as IS II will go to f5.6 pretty quick compare to old version.
It is pretty nice. The bokeh rendering isn't high end (that's one of the main areas where the 70-300L is much better), but there are few real optical issues with the lens.
long term shooters know that IQ is important.. but its not all... a well balance lens between price and usability its key, whatever the manufacturer of that glass is... this lens seems to hit that equilibrium between AF-Accuracy, Legacy support, IQ, looks and Price...
This a variable aperture zoom (from f/4 to f/5.6). The lens moves towards the smaller apertures (f/5 and f/5.6) very quickly, which means that it needs more light compared to some other lenses.
Stopped the video after 1 minute, keeping my fingers crossed for this lens to be sharp so I won't have to spend 1k+ for the L version...will report back in 17 minutes
Yay, turns out to perform well! In that focal range, with 70-200 f4 l is, 70-300 mkII, 70-300 l and 3rd party options, it's really tough to pick one. (100-400 is a bit too heavy and expensive for me to carry around while cycling)
Random Ibis This lens is probably a nice choice for you. If you do get a newer Canon body you will really appreciate the Nano USM for video/Live View focus.
If you are shooting APS-C, you might as well go for the 55-250 STM. It's smaller, lighter, and the 55mm is a better fit on APS-C. If you want more reach, though, go for the 70-300.
Hang on to it a little while longer. the new tamron 70-300 was just launched in Japan and from what I can see on the spec sheets it should be better when it comes down to aberrations
I would think eventually they'd release it in the US. Either way - they better not do that with the new 10-24mm and 70-200mm G2 to be announced I believe tomorrow (based on rumors - but it seems highly likely). They better not just release those in Japan, at least not the 70-200mm G2!!!
+Dustin Abbott No, I don't mean typically, in the worst case I have never seen it that bad on my copy, I may try to force it in the next few days, but shooting it on APS-C branches into the sun kind of stuff and not quite like that. It's not like there is none, but maybe like 60-70% of that. Maybe it is the copy variation or maybe my worst case scenario just still isn't as bad, what is your light setup if you don't mind my asking? Finished watching now, overall the Canon is looking pretty great, would be my pick looking at the close shots but I honestly prefer the Tamron in your shots at infinity. I actually came into the Tamron quite by accident. A friend was just getting into photography and bought it but discovered it was too big and heavy for his preference, so I took it off his hands for a bargain.
Loved the video, i was looking forward to pick one for myself, did not know how it would perform on 80d, as the old 55-250 did not perform well on it as compared to its performance on 700d.. This cleared my doubts, i had also considered tamron however heard about the launch of this and decided to wait, Thanks to you i gotta know it performs well on APSc's
is this a ring-type usm allowing full time manual over-ride ? the main shortcoming of the older version of this lens was that although canon markets is as a "usm", it's actually pinion-gear driven and if you tried to fine-tine focus by manually over-riding it without switching it out of "a" mode you'd bust the gear shaft. That difference was the main advantage in fact that the tamron sp 70-300 had over it, was that lens is a full ring-type usm.
The answer to your question is more complicated. No, it's not ring-type USM. Nano USM is a completely different technology that is more like STM on steroids. You can full time manually override, yes, but it is focus by wire so you don't physically move elements with the focus ring. The input from the focus ring is actually routed through the focus motor itself.
i was just reading a blurb on how nano-usm works (specifically a vlog re 18-135) and it has this statement: If you’re used to adjust focus on your lens manually, even with the camera off, just to check composition, you’ll have to change habits with the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS (NANO) USM, as it is a power assisted lens, meaning you need to power the camera up to be able to use the lens did you experience that with the 70-300 ? that you can't even do a manual focus lookie-see without turning the camera on ?
That's absolutely right. All STM/Nano USM lenses require the camera to be powered on for the MF ring to register any input (the camera can't even be in sleep mode).
thanks....that rules out me being interested in any of 'em.....i spent 15 minutes just this very morning playing with potential compositions of a snow scene through the 100-400L beer can, deciding, by being able to see it through the little 3x2 hole there was nothing there worth capturing, and thankfully, did not have to turn on anything which would have done nothing more than drain and waste battery power........i'll also never own a rig with a "touch screen", or a gps, or wifi connection, or etc etc for that very reason, and i very rarely "chimp" and waste power that way, i lived for years packin' around 35 mm manual nikons, rb67's and a 4x5 linhoff, and if you ever felt the need to "chimp" a in the field to see what you had on a 4x5 transparency you couldn't, and all you were really doing was doubting your ability.......and the more electronics a rig has, the more things which can fail, the more things which can take the rig out of your hands while it's in repair........ i really appreciate you taking time to answer the questions you get asked, and i am supremely impressed with your videos. I actually came across them recently while looking for comparisons info on the 150-600's on the market because i've been seriously debating switching from canon to nikon...and it was superb to find your videos and your dedication to providing solid, factual, useful, information....... there's a lot of less-than-useful videos out there to wade through searching for the good ones....
@@DustinAbbottTWI Does your Tamron SP 70-300 VC USD have very narrow range for sharp focus in manual focus mode as well? Mine does (and AF motor is broken on it)...
I have tested the Tamron SP 70-300 VC, Canon's Mark i of the 70-300 and the Nano USM 70-300 Canon. They all are really for lover consumer needs. Not worth buying! They don't cost much new, so the optical performance is what it is. Spend the money right and buy a Canon Zoom L IS lens, used or new. The optics are awesome everywhere and anywhere.
Great video as always... but I see motion blur also. You should try in daylight at 1/1000s or something just to be sure. I see both studio comparisons micro-motion blured... See 3:12 ruclips.net/video/Z4mpofxRlws/видео.html
Double checked VC was off? Sometimes my Tamron looks less sharp and other times much sharper. I actually think it performs better in low light situations, maybe it is caused by a veiling flare even with the hood.
+Dustin Abbott I'm leaning towards my experience having more to do with the contrast messing with my sharpness perception a bit, thanks for checking though.
I noted that issue, though in a retest the overall results (in terms of the difference between the two models) is roughly the same. What you are referring to is a very brief portion of the whole, however.
Cool that they up graded that lens should of stayed the same price.. not worth it, its to much money. Better of buying a L lens at that price range like 70-200 4l is 5.6 to slow and not sharp because if cheap glass.
Thank you for your review, it has really helped me. I am on a budget and this lens will compliment my growing landscape and general photography. Kilimeruimages.
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After running the short distance test again, I determined that there was some motion blur on the 70mm comparison. The overall sharpness results are about the same, though both lenses look a little better with out the motion blur, obviously. I'll show the new results in my final review. At 70mm the Tamron is very slightly sharper than the Canon at f/4. Results at other focal lengths (including the Tamron's CA) remained the same in the second test.
There could be some sample variation on earliest shipped models. But from what you shown. Thats performance for its price and the hugely impressive Nano USM focusing. I think its a great lens. I own the Tamron 70-300. It just does not hold up on the 80D. But I would not be ashamed of the new Canon 70-300 II at all. Thanks for the optical comparison.
There is always some sample variation, but I don't think it is extreme. LensRentals has already broken down this lens and found that it is very well constructed.
Dustin thank you. I bought this lens to photograph my sons youth football/soccer games and paired it with my Canon M50 II - It has been absolutely superb. The reach is amazing on the crop sensor M50 II and its right on the cusp of what's comfortable to handhold and balance on the M50.
Build quality feels great, colours are superb and the AF is very quick.
I alternate between taking this and the EF-M 55-200 which I take when I want a compact setup as it is extremely sharp (I only photography during the day with loads of light).
Thanks for your reviews, it's reaffirmed my choice of the 70-300 IS II USM
I'm glad you are enjoying it.
Looking at this lens for my nephew's football matches also paired with an M50, I'm looking for a real world example of the image quality of how this combo would look.
Hey Dustin!!! You nailed the Canon 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II USM lens!!! A super great lens test you've done. As soon as I get the money I'm adding this grand lens to my 80D that I plan on buying as well.
Thanks for the feedback. Enjoy the lens!
You convinced me I am getting the Canon. Would you say there was a lot of difference in sharpness on the crop sensor camera or not. Would you say it it as sharp as my 55 to 250 that you reviewed.
For a long time I quite using this lens due to comments on the internet. I am happy to see your take on this one. I will go back to using it again as I was quite pleased.
Remember this: your own opinion on a lens matters more than anyone elses. If you are happy, who cares what someone like me (or another reviewer) thinks?
you can send the lens you didnt liked the review for me anytime bro, i will use them all lol
I bought this lens for my canon m50. It has actually replaced my G9 with Leica 100 400 though it was less than half the cost. I'm missing the 800mm range but loving the canons colour science. Thinking of the canon 100 400 L in the future with possibly a M50 mark ii if one is released. Many thanks for this review, Dustin.
My pleasure.
hello sir, how is the lens 70-300mm ii nano usm in m50?
@@erikaptured I run this combo and it's brilliant
I recently bought this lens coming from a Tamron 70-300 Di LD, so not the SP. I liked the Tamron for what it was but I had a real struggle with the immense fringing and chromatic aberration.
Since I often shot carnivals in lower light with many colors and different lights the automatic defringing didn't work too great.
I was between getting the Canon mark II and the Tamron but went with the Canon. Mainly because of the Nano USM and it being a first party lens.
Now seeing this comparison and how much haze and chromatic aberration the Tamron still has, I think I made the right choice.
I got the Canon for 400€ used (practically new, including a lens hood) and for this price its a great light lens.
I hope it works out great for you
Another excellent, detailed video! Looks like Canon did a fine job in the IQ department.
I think so.
used it for some months as partial replacement for the 70-300L, sharpness is basically similar (no complaints) but the AF performance is NOT the same. The L is getting more shots when you need to be quick.
Interesting feedback.
I noticed that, when reviewing the two lenses at 70mm, you are saying that the Canon is better at this length, yet the onscreen graphic says the opposite, that the Tamron is better.
I’m trying to decide between the RF 100-400 and the Ef 70-300 using an adaptor. What would you recommend
Tough call. The 70-300 has a faster aperture, but it also lacks the reach of the 100-400 and requires the adapter. I'm not really sure I can tell you which way to go.
Great. In 2023, I still choose 70-300 Nano. Can you compare the sharpness with the EF 70-200 F4 L IS? I don't know if the quality of the L lens can beat this 70-200 Nano? Thank you very much!
I'm afraid my testing methods have changed and I don't really have a good frame of reference for comparison.
Thanks for the video. Another honest, incredibly insightful effort.
My pleasure.
Is this lens still relevant and how is it for the canon 77D
It definitely is still relevant. I haven't tested it on the 77D, but it should be fine.
Thanks for another great review of a very interesting lens! i used to own the Tamron, which in many ways is a great lens, and I now own the 70-300 L lens, which of course is incrediibly good (btw your review of that lens helped me to decide on that, so thanks for that too :-). Nonetheless, I am considerimg purchasing this new lens as well, because I have been suspecting that it should peeform on almost L-level, but in a more travel friendly format, and I have been very surprised about some reviews, thinking that there most be something strange going on there. Your real world reviews are super important, because in the end, it is what your eyes see that matters. Hats off to you Dustin, you are the man!
+Richard Rönnbäck thanks for the feedback. So far I would say the biggest difference between the L-series lens and this lens is in the quality of the rendering. This lens may be nearly as sharp, but it doesn't render as smoothly as the more expensive option
Hi Dustin. This lens brand new costs about as the same as the 70-200mm L version 3 2nd hand now here in the uk. That's the 2nd version of IS. Which would you buy as I'm thinking of the L and a canon 1.4 teleconverter for when I want a little more reach. Thanks
That's not a bad approach. The L lens certainly has some advantages.
Can you advice me an Extender for this lens working on Canon 5D IV?
I'm not aware of this lens being compatible with extenders.
Is this a budget lens for wildlife photography ?
Sure. That's a fine application.
To be honest I love my 70-300 non is canon kit lens the lack of image stabilization only pushed
me to learn my camera's settings now it's time to step up to an is model
thank you Dustin for all your reviews i
Glad to help out. You will see a huge improvement with this lens.
As the EF mount and its lenses are phased out, I find myself drawn perhaps to acquire these dark horse gems before they are no longer available. There's this lens and the 35IS which may be worth acquiring even in 2023. What do you think?
I'm not sure what your application is, but they are definitely still viable lenses.
Hello Mr. Abbott. Many thanks for the video. Admittedly, I am a bit confused. I am a Canon shooter and use the Canon EOS 80d accompanied with the Canon EF-S 55~250mm, IS, STM Lens which I like a lot. I feel it is time for an upgrade and need to know if the new Canon 70~300mm, IS, USM II would be the way for me to go. My confusion is where you clearly indicated that the Tamron is also a good choice given the fact that its VC feature far out performs all others in this area. I do understand the side by side image comparisons (another great job) and wonder if dollar for dollar the Tamron would be a wiser financial option. Thanks very much again for your assistance and I continue to look forward to your presentations. Kind regards, Tony J Tarquinio.
I think the Canon is the overall best option. The Tamron is a little dated in operation at this point.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Alright, very good sir. Once again, many thanks for your comprehensive and helpful presentations. :) Tony J. Tarquinio.
Great that you talk about sample variation. Would be interesting to dig deeper in this area. Maybe comparing brands quality output at the end ...
The difficulty is that this is often more a lens by lens problem rather than a broad spectrum brand problem.
I’d love to see a comparison of the 1-2 and 3 and all the tams with is and without
I'm afraid I probably won't be going back to older lenses for that comparison with how long the list is for current reviews.
Excellent video and I just subscribed! Given the price point of the 70-200f4 and the new 70-300 you reviewed being close to one another price-wise, does the 70-300 fair better given the newness and additional range?? I'm shooting on a 7dmkii. Thanks and great work!
+Marcus Ervin - EXIT First Realty I would say yes, overall. Easier to handhold and good image quality
Hi Dustin. Nice video thanks. Do you know if the canon 70 300 II works fine on canon R5 with adapter?
I haven't personally tested that combination, but it should work just fine.
I just made the switch to FF and I need to find a replacement for my 55-250mm stm lens. I know this won't have as much reach, but it won't break my bank! Thanks for this detailed review, you really put my nerves to rest. Hopefully this will pair nicely with my new RF 24-105L F4 lens!
Sounds great!
Will u recommend this len with canon r10?
I haven't tested that combination, but I don't see why not...so long as you can live with using an adapter all the time.
Which is the best tamron 70-30mm Vc or this canon 70-300mm f456
This lens is better.
Hello Dustin, what tamron 70-300 model are you using? A030 Model? Cause I'd like to know how Canon's 70-300 IS II USM compare to Tamron's 70-300 SP A030 (the one with silver ring).
Thanks.
Hi Nico, unfortunately that was several years ago and I can't really tell you now which it was. You might be able to tell from the comparison photos. I suspect it was the older version, however.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Thanks for the reply. I've been looking for a review of Tamron 70-300 Model A030 (improved Model A005) to compare with Canon 70-300 is usm II but unfortunately haven't seen one. Probably, because Model A030 is only available in the japanese market.
Also, thanks for the review of 70-300 IS USM II. I will be getting this lens in a few days.
Cheers.
Dustin , thank you for doing this detailed review which I and others asked for a short while ago. Can't wait for your final review.
The plan is to launch that next Monday.
you got me thinking. Should I buy the 70-200 F4L, or this?
+Aaron Rodriguez Other than superior build I see little reason to recommend the 70-200 f/4L over this.
Great review! This is really helpful, I'm a sports photographer looking to upgrade from starter 50mm lens and after seeing your videos on this lens I've definitely found the right fit for my next purchase.
Glad it helped out.
Thanks for this review. I'm looking at purchasing this lens. However as it goes with greater detail from a higher megapixel camera as you have used how might it perform on my older Canon 7D ? Thanks
It should perform fine, though with slightly less resolution because of the sensor.
which one will be better for canon 80d EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II USM or EF 70-200mm f/4L USM please help or how do they compare
I would go for this lens (70-300). It is more compact than the 70-200, and the IS will make a big difference in your photos.
Thanks for the reply last questions 55-250 lens or 70-200 witch lense is better is wroth the price to get this 70-200 over the 55-250
Dustin Abbott sir for canon 700d which is best telephoto lens????? Please help me sir to choose a best budget L series lens???
Thanks a lot for this video... Do you have any idea the IQ of this mark 2 version compared to the mark 1? I'm thinking of upgrading my current 70-300 IS USM (mark 1) to either this mark 2 or the 70-200 f/4L IS. I use the 6D. Thanks again.
I only used the MK 1 a couple of times and never formally tested it. The probably with the MK 1 is that there was a huge amount of sample variation, so how much of an upgrade the MK 2 is really depends on how good your MK 1 is.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Cheers so much for replying. Much appreciated! I will consider it further along with the f/4L IS. I think I'll miss the extra 100mm tele!
Thank you for your work to debunk the very negative thumbs down reports. Are you motivated to see if the new 24-105mm F 4.0 is as bad as early reports as well, or are you satisfied those reports are accurate?
No, I definitely want to review it, but it has been VERY slow to get to market in non-kit form.
It s was so usefull. I take photo with this lense on f8 .and to be hounest it s woonderfull . I do think the qulity is so close to l series tanks mate🌹🍷
It's definitely sharp at F8
Just a great review. One question. I have the older 75-300mm IS usm lens which has been considered as a terrible lens as well but I have never seen a review on the IS Version on youtube. It has been quite good for me at around 5.6 as well. I wonder if the difference is much greater or quite similar to this 70-300mm canon. I have a cânon 7D and about to get a M6 or 6D.
This newest lens is much better than any of the previous versions I've tested.
Excellent review. This was really helpful. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful!
Fantastic review! Love your channel! Greetings from Japan!
That's really great to hear. Thank you!
Ilko Allexandroff
I am from Japan too, got 80D, but confused whether to buy it or not
Alien in Tokyo I am using the 70D for some of my videos, and for still photography as and I'm quite happy with it!
Ilko Allexandroff
I saw second hand price 50,000 yen at Akihabara. should I buy it?, asking for your suggestion
Alien in Tokyo in my opinion definitely yes! I also got mine second hand and it's performing quite good!
which one would you choose: this 70-300 mm or the sigma 100-400 mm?
That completely depends on the shooting priorities. The 70-300 has a little faster focus, while the Sigma has arguably the sharper optics.
Should I get a used 70200L f4 is i or this.little confused.
That's a tough call. The 70-200 F4 IS is sharper and has a constant aperture, but is larger, heavier, and more expensive. This lens focuses faster and more quietly. The L lens will hold its value very well.
thank you very much for the review
I am wondering if the Tamron isn't performing up to par because of the 50MPs. I'm curious on how they perform in comparison on a 6D or 5D III or even a 1DX II, a 35mm sensor with less MPs.
+floex831 i've always found the Tamron to be a good value and a good performer for the money. The point of this test however is not to put down the Tamron but to demonstrate that the new Canon is certainly a sharp lens
@@DustinAbbottTWI Overall, is it sharper than the Tamron SP 30-700 VC USD?
Thanks for posting this. It confirms my own conclusions that the centre sharpness of the new EF 70-300 is pretty good. I compared it with my EF 300mm f4L and was very impressed how close it came. Other posters have mentioned sample variation giving rise to all the talk of it being soft, I think they are correct. I think I got lucky and got a sharp one.
There shouldn't be a huge amount of sample variation, though, as a teardown of the lens showed that it is very well constructed. I think that sometimes things get going on the Internet that aren't fully based in reality.
Canon lens is certainly sharper but on Flickr, I felt color rendering of Tamron was better. Did you feel the same as well?
I would say that judging images by Flickr is difficult, as most of those images have been edited by the users who uploaded them. I don't recall feeling that way when I had both lenses together, though.
Thanks a lot Dustin for your excellent review and answer. One more question, which one is better Canon EF 70-300 IS USM (old) vs Canon EF 70-300 IS II USM (New version). Old one is ~50$ cheaper. In the new version, I am worried as IS II will go to f5.6 pretty quick compare to old version.
The new lens is much better in all kinds of ways. The aperture issue is the only exception to the rule.
For an APS-C camera (Canon EOS 77D), which lens would you recommend? EF 70-300mm IS II USM, or the EF-S 55-250mm IS STM?
I would start with the EF-S 55-250mm. It's nicely compact and has a great APS-C focal elngth.
Made my decision easy buying the Canon 70 300 👍🏻👍🏻
Awesome!
Looks like a very good mid priced lens, the studio shot was actually quite good. Almost comparable to a more expensive zoom.
It is pretty nice. The bokeh rendering isn't high end (that's one of the main areas where the 70-300L is much better), but there are few real optical issues with the lens.
Another great video, full of empirical information. Many thanks! I will make sure to buy my lens through your links. Cheers.
And thanks for the 80D samples. Very helpful... In time, do you have any info about the 77D?
+Marcelo Cunha i'm afraid not
I like your videos. concise and informative
Thank you.
how is this compared to the 55/250stm lens in sharpness and contrast?
+Matthew Augsburger more similar than different
would it work on motorsport?
I don't see why not
Its never a miss when it comes to buying recently release Canon Glass.. Nice IQ Review!
Thanks. It's got a few shortcomings (I'll detail them in my final review), but overall this seems to be an optical success.
long term shooters know that IQ is important.. but its not all... a well balance lens between price and usability its key, whatever the manufacturer of that glass is...
this lens seems to hit that equilibrium between AF-Accuracy, Legacy support, IQ, looks and Price...
That's a very good test thank you!
You're welcome!
What did you mean about the Canon not "Holding" the aperture?
This a variable aperture zoom (from f/4 to f/5.6). The lens moves towards the smaller apertures (f/5 and f/5.6) very quickly, which means that it needs more light compared to some other lenses.
Great review! Thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Stopped the video after 1 minute, keeping my fingers crossed for this lens to be sharp so I won't have to spend 1k+ for the L version...will report back in 17 minutes
LOL - I do know what happens at the end :)
Yay, turns out to perform well! In that focal range, with 70-200 f4 l is, 70-300 mkII, 70-300 l and 3rd party options, it's really tough to pick one. (100-400 is a bit too heavy and expensive for me to carry around while cycling)
Random Ibis What camera body are you using?
6D, though I'm also planning to get an APS-C body later this year for video (probably an 80D, but I'll keep my eyes open for the rumored 77D)
Random Ibis This lens is probably a nice choice for you. If you do get a newer Canon body you will really appreciate the Nano USM for video/Live View focus.
dear boss, can I get a comparison for Canon EF 70-300 F4-5.6 IS II USM vs Canon EF-S 55-250mm F/4-5.6 IS STM
I'm afraid not, as I don't have either of those lenses on hand anymore.
Dustin Abbott Which one is better if u suggested
Thanks boss,
how ever can i know which one is better if suggested??
Waiting for yur kind replyy....
If you are shooting APS-C, you might as well go for the 55-250 STM. It's smaller, lighter, and the 55mm is a better fit on APS-C. If you want more reach, though, go for the 70-300.
Like usual, outstanding review D.A!!!
Thanks a lot, Julio
Hang on to it a little while longer.
the new tamron 70-300 was just launched in Japan
and from what I can see on the spec sheets it should be better when it comes down to aberrations
+jeffry de meyer unfortunately that lens will only be released in Japan for now. That was a decision made by Tamron and it's distributors
the 005 version is no longer on the US website so I highly doubt a world wide release is going to take long
I would think eventually they'd release it in the US.
Either way - they better not do that with the new 10-24mm and 70-200mm G2 to be announced I believe tomorrow (based on rumors - but it seems highly likely). They better not just release those in Japan, at least not the 70-200mm G2!!!
Perhaps, but that's not what my contacts are telling me right now.
I don't think that is going to be problem.
Excellent review! may i ask sir which one you choose between EF 70-300L is USM or this ef 70-300mm ii nano usm?
Thank you 🙏
Done sub🥰
I personally love the 70-300L. It’s a special lens.
Can you please tell me if could use these lens on the cannon t6 .☺️
You definitely can.
Hmm, my copy of the Tamron seems a touch better. It doesn't show crazy CA like that, some, but not as much as that and is a hair sharper.
+zvxcvxcz this kind of test is a bit of a torture test for CA, which is part of why I do it. I'm not surprised you see less CA in every day use
+Dustin Abbott No, I don't mean typically, in the worst case I have never seen it that bad on my copy, I may try to force it in the next few days, but shooting it on APS-C branches into the sun kind of stuff and not quite like that. It's not like there is none, but maybe like 60-70% of that. Maybe it is the copy variation or maybe my worst case scenario just still isn't as bad, what is your light setup if you don't mind my asking? Finished watching now, overall the Canon is looking pretty great, would be my pick looking at the close shots but I honestly prefer the Tamron in your shots at infinity. I actually came into the Tamron quite by accident. A friend was just getting into photography and bought it but discovered it was too big and heavy for his preference, so I took it off his hands for a bargain.
Loved the video, i was looking forward to pick one for myself, did not know how it would perform on 80d, as the old 55-250 did not perform well on it as compared to its performance on 700d.. This cleared my doubts, i had also considered tamron however heard about the launch of this and decided to wait, Thanks to you i gotta know it performs well on APSc's
I do have an APS-C image gallery (on an 80D) here: bit.ly/70300IIUSM
Any idea if this will work with the Kenko 1.4 DGX TC?
Watch my final review and I cover that: ruclips.net/video/_mTmcVMl-qY/видео.html
excellent review.
Thanks, Matthew.
You are amazing sir
Well thank you!
Nice review! Really helps me a lot. Maybe review canon 100-400 f/4.5-5.6 someday?
If you look on my channel you will find that review.
Dustin Abbott yeah~~I found the review! Thank you.
Bad comparisson, you must use the exactly parameters on Tamron and Cânon
bro what about AF performance compare to L series lens. It has produce equel performance?.
I'll cover that in the final review - this episode is specific to the sharpness of the lens.
Dustin Abbott appreciate your fast reply. awaiting to see it's result meet or not.
is this a ring-type usm allowing full time manual over-ride ? the main shortcoming of the older version of this lens was that although canon markets is as a "usm", it's actually pinion-gear driven and if you tried to fine-tine focus by manually over-riding it without switching it out of "a" mode you'd bust the gear shaft. That difference was the main advantage in fact that the tamron sp 70-300 had over it, was that lens is a full ring-type usm.
The answer to your question is more complicated. No, it's not ring-type USM. Nano USM is a completely different technology that is more like STM on steroids. You can full time manually override, yes, but it is focus by wire so you don't physically move elements with the focus ring. The input from the focus ring is actually routed through the focus motor itself.
i was just reading a blurb on how nano-usm works (specifically a vlog re 18-135) and it has this statement:
If you’re used to adjust focus on your lens manually, even with the camera off, just to check composition, you’ll have to change habits with the EF-S 18-135mm f/3.5-5.6 IS (NANO) USM, as it is a power assisted lens, meaning you need to power the camera up to be able to use the lens
did you experience that with the 70-300 ? that you can't even do a manual focus lookie-see without turning the camera on ?
That's absolutely right. All STM/Nano USM lenses require the camera to be powered on for the MF ring to register any input (the camera can't even be in sleep mode).
thanks....that rules out me being interested in any of 'em.....i spent 15 minutes just this very morning playing with potential compositions of a snow scene through the 100-400L beer can, deciding, by being able to see it through the little 3x2 hole there was nothing there worth capturing, and thankfully, did not have to turn on anything which would have done nothing more than drain and waste battery power........i'll also never own a rig with a "touch screen", or a gps, or wifi connection, or etc etc for that very reason, and i very rarely "chimp" and waste power that way, i lived for years packin' around 35 mm manual nikons, rb67's and a 4x5 linhoff, and if you ever felt the need to "chimp" a in the field to see what you had on a 4x5 transparency you couldn't, and all you were really doing was doubting your ability.......and the more electronics a rig has, the more things which can fail, the more things which can take the rig out of your hands while it's in repair........
i really appreciate you taking time to answer the questions you get asked, and i am supremely impressed with your videos. I actually came across them recently while looking for comparisons info on the 150-600's on the market because i've been seriously debating switching from canon to nikon...and it was superb to find your videos and your dedication to providing solid, factual, useful, information....... there's a lot of less-than-useful videos out there to wade through searching for the good ones....
How the nano usm autofocus works on a 6D?
Very fast. The only difference is that obviously the 6D doesn't do video AF, and the focus speed in Live View won't be as fast.
ont peut tu avoir un video en francais s.v.p, merci
I need a translator!
I think Tamron lens needs micro adjustment correction
I do the tests in Live View and with 10x manual focus, so AFMA is not relevant.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Does your Tamron SP 70-300 VC USD have very narrow range for sharp focus in manual focus mode as well?
Mine does (and AF motor is broken on it)...
nice
this lens looks interesting
+Vinicius Vieira It is, for sure
0:40 I always knew you were a robot
LOL. I've never had that recording glitch before.
me too
I have tested the Tamron SP 70-300 VC, Canon's Mark i of the 70-300 and the Nano USM 70-300 Canon. They all are really for lover consumer needs. Not worth buying! They don't cost much new, so the optical performance is what it is. Spend the money right and buy a Canon Zoom L IS lens, used or new. The optics are awesome everywhere and anywhere.
as he said the 80d isnt that expensive i passed out
Relatively :)
Comparison with Tamron looks like motion blur happening
It's not, though. Mirror lockup, steady tripod, with 2 second delay.
Great video as always... but I see motion blur also.
You should try in daylight at 1/1000s or something just to be sure.
I see both studio comparisons micro-motion blured...
See 3:12
ruclips.net/video/Z4mpofxRlws/видео.html
Double checked VC was off? Sometimes my Tamron looks less sharp and other times much sharper. I actually think it performs better in low light situations, maybe it is caused by a veiling flare even with the hood.
+zvxcvxcz I do always double check for that, but I will run another quick test just to be sure
+Dustin Abbott I'm leaning towards my experience having more to do with the contrast messing with my sharpness perception a bit, thanks for checking though.
Please review it with aps-c DSL's as most of the buyers of this lens will be aps-c body owners including myself.
Please also compare it with Canon EF-S 55-250 IS2 or STM lens.
I might be selling my tamron 70-300mm VC for this...
The Tamron is still an excellent budget option, but I do think this lens is a more complete performer.
Stopped watching when I saw you comparing shots taken at ISO800 and 1/25th at 70mm. Motion blur everywhere.
I noted that issue, though in a retest the overall results (in terms of the difference between the two models) is roughly the same. What you are referring to is a very brief portion of the whole, however.
reports coming from canon haters i guess..lol the thing for me personally is not sharpness but rather focus..
Cool that they up graded that lens should of stayed the same price.. not
worth it, its to much money. Better of buying a L lens at that price
range like 70-200 4l is 5.6 to slow and not sharp because if cheap
glass.
I don't know what market you are in, but there is a pretty big price difference between the 70-300 IS II and the 70-200 f/4 IS in North America.
I didn't like the sharp of this Canon EF 70-300 IS II US when i am shooting sports photos.. =(
That's unfortunate. The lens has good sharpness, so it probably other factors at play.
plz check your shutter speed....your review is wrong
Thank you for your review, it has really helped me. I am on a budget and this lens will compliment my growing landscape and general photography. Kilimeruimages.
Glad it was helpful!
is it sharp? no.
Relatively speaking (to its level of competition) its actually quite good
You were affiliated with Canon back then,right?
I wasn't affiliated with any brand (never have been). I'm an independent reviewer.
@@DustinAbbottTWI Ok got it thanks!