TikTok, Terror, and Teens
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- Опубликовано: 21 дек 2023
- Is TikTok Brainwashing The Children?
TikToks about Osama bin Laden’s “Letters to America” recently went viral…or did they? The media seemingly created its own internet sensation overnight, but that success made us wonder: Who decides what narratives we’re told and why? And what effect do those choices have on our society? Let’s find out in this Wisecrack Edition: The Dark Side of Media.
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Hosted by Michael Burns
Directed by Michael Luxemburg
Edited by Henry Arrambide
Produced by Olivia Redden
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RUclips made it hard for us to get this one approved, and since there is no sponsor or monetization or anything, we just wanted to say thanks for watching. We really appreciate your time and engagement, even when you don't always agree with our conclusions. Couldn't ask for a better audience, and hope everyone is getting some time off work for the holidays.
I’m sorry for correcting you, last week. It’s been legitimately, bothering me.
I kept waiting for a segue to a Ground News sponsorship.
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ this episode
I learned more interesting new concepts in 15 min episode than most docs in 45m ......
Honestly.... ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
( really good improvement from the unrelated 1 hour intro until getting to the topic )
😊😊😊
Tipping my fedora
Remember when RUclips used to be a site that you can share whatever you wanted be it cat videos or trips to the zoo?
John Oliver’s segment on local news a little while ago touched on some of these ideas. The news media has the potential to do a lot of damage to public psyche, regardless of intent.
Oh absolutely - that Oliver segment was fantastic and horrifying.
it already has
Let’s not forget how in 1898 the news media made us go to war with Spain by rushing to conclusions on why USS Maine blew up.
Which is unfortunate given that John Oliver constantly devalues his own arguments by using ad hominem and misinterpreting data very consistently.
@@Yoshi278 John Oliver isn't claiming to be a serious news organization, though. In fact, he repeatedly tells people not to conflate what he's doing with journalism. That one should take what he says with a grain of salt is a given. With news organizations that pretend to portray things "as they are" it is less so.
LOL it’s like DARE in the 90s had us all believing that we were the ONLY kids in our classes not getting high every day and that EVERYONE ELSE was doing it 😂
Telling us all the street names and telling us how to use the drugs, but telling us not to do them. Alright.
@@arealhuman826 Yeah! Like, I didn't know I could sniff all these things to get high!
Stranger Danger was even worse. Not only did it make everyone think child abduction by strangers was common, but it protected actual abusers because the vast VAST majority of abusers are relatives or close friends of the parents. It’s not a coincidence the churches that promoted Stranger Danger the most had so many awful stories come out decades later.
DARE gave me the impression that people would be trying to force drugs onto me on just a walk around the block lol
I used to get high with the son of our DARE officer, in their house, with him knowing, because he would rather us do it somewhere safe than be running around. I thought it was so funny back then but now I just see it as sad and as the massive failure of the nation's stand against drugs.
The problem I have with TikTok, RUclips Shorts and the like is that they are like chain smoking. It's not damaging your lungs, but damaging your brain. SHOCKING!
Denzel Washington said it best: "If you don't pay attention to the media, you're UNinformed; If you do pay attention to the media, you're MISinformed." Knowing that is a big deal - media literacy is more important than ever.
Talk about being misinformed: that's a Mark Twain quote, not Denzel Washington.
haha exactly, irony at it's finest @@AJX-2
@Wiseyoda222 Actually, Sun Tzu can be credited for writing the earliest rendition of that phrase. The only reason why he's credited as being one of the first is because historians can't confirm when or where it originated from. Most likely ancient Mesopotamia.
Maybe Denzel Washington was quoting Mark Twain; but people misconstrued the other way?
maybe I did too, but someone doesn't credit the quote to me. That's the point @@BigHeadLilDude
I cant tell you how often I see a “news article” about something going viral and “it’s everywhere” but that’s the first time I’ve seen anything about it
As scary as it is to have young people sympathize with Bin Ladin, it is also important to have that letter available. I remember after 9/11 my first thoughts we're "My God what were they thinking?" If we don't have an answer to that question we cannot easily recognize the thoughts that lead to such horror, and hopefully stop that horror before it can happen. That's why it is important to understand what is being said in such works as Bin Ladin's letter and other such works that have brought evil into this world like "Mien Kamph".
Yeah, no. A letter/manifest might give people ideas, information, or opinions that they are unable to deal with without proper education/context. Look at 2020 and anti-vax bullshit. People who were given information they dont/cant understand.
Precisely. Censorship is never the solution.
What the f is Mien Kamph? Some kind of Thai food?
I mean I don't think it's fair to argue the letter has been censored the American Intelligence chief Avril Haynes appears to have literally published a copy of it on her department's website that comes up third on a Google search for the document.
Frankly I don't even see the point in banning it, it's written for an internal Afgan audience and to my eye isnt at all persuasive, if anything it's openly threatening. Mein Kampf I can see the argument and I do sort of think some effort should be made to make that book difficult (but not literally impossible) to get; it has sort of an Alex Jones like hypernationalistic and ultra conservative, vaguely conspiratorial charm that I could see a modern conservative nodding their head to if it was taken out of context, like you could put some Tucker Carlson quotes into that book with some cultural touchups and they wouldn't look at all our of place.
But the letter I don't see a western audience finding the letter all that persuasive and I don't see what the point to banning it even would be if we settled the "should we" question. Could be proven wrong about that but it is my impression.
It's easy to find the letter by googling archive sites of the Guardian.
The average cable news segment is less than 2 minutes and 30 seconds long. Its just boomer tiktok with stories selected to not upset their advertisers.
Very reminiscent of the Tide pod, and the Nyquil chicken 'fads.' Especially the role media played in creating it.
Oh!! Michael mentioned on the live stream about how this one was rejected completely from monetization and how even if they removed the offending content, it still wouldn't get monetized. I was trying to remember what that was and seeing your comment reminded me, it was a clip about the Tide-Pod Challenge!!!!
People are still dumb for reacting to the perception of a trend by creating it. Monkey see monkey do
Oh jeebus, I haven’t heard about the chicken thing. That sounds like one of the vilest things you could possibly put in your mout.
… Except for perhaps straight Nyquil.
Yeah, that was very much a 2-3 week thing. It started out as a joke on tiktok, then the news picked it for a week and then it was gone. I think Mat Pat even had enough time to turn out a Food Theory video on it before everyone quickly dropped it and never talked about it again.
You all have continued to deliver insight and have managed to stay ahead of the curve. This episode was definitely a gem.
I would not say ahead of the curve because the Osama letter was 3 weeks ago.
@Coffeeisnecessarynowpepper Oh, you're right, that's almost like ages ago.
I love the point that ideas taken to their extreme end up being their opposites.
my mother was a journalist, and literally quit for the reason you named. thanks for talking about it, i've seen no one else cover it
Thank you all for your amazing work this year guys! Happy holidays and winter break! ❤️❤️❤️❤️🎄🎄🎄🎄
I have two weeks off🎉🎉
@@Coffeeisnecessarynowpepperwhat? Don't be lazy mate
@@TvGunslingeRvT stuffing my face with figgy pudding 🍮
We need to be skeptical without being gullible
Well put.
That saying "if you don't believe in nothing, you'll believe anything" never made sense to me.
How can you be skeptic and gullibile at the same time?
@@keycuz Don't take things at face value, but don't just assume everything is a lie either.
It's a delicate balance we struggle with every day.
2:40 stock footage of someone not understanding how to use a glass to increase hearing through a wall is a perfect metaphor for misinformation (he's holding the glass backwards, open end should go against the wall).
I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. I immediately thought, _would it also work that way?_
On one hand, criticizing American institutions while said institution is trying to quash any and all talking points will almost always have my sympathy. On the OTHER hand, you don’t need OSAMA BIN LADEN to tell you that. Osama was A PART of the problem! I think people were missing the forest from the trees in this situation, a little too eager to bring attention to the failings of the American Gov’t.
Yeah I kinda agree. As a zoomer, I think people my age want to criticize and see the flaws of America (which I wholeheartedly support), so they looked into anyone that did.
Very good point. What helps me with this is to keep in mind the phrase 'even a broken clock is broken twice a day'
I didn't see anyone celebrating the guy. You can think he's evil while also agreeing that America has only made the middle east worse
@@Eltener123 You can also acknowledge that all the evil that he did was made possible by his being a US backed cia asset.
@@tab-xp8fb The US Empire recruited and rewarded literal high Nazi brass with cushy jobs in the aeronautics industry. We are the 4th Reich. See: Operations Paperclip and Gladio. We also armed trained and funded the mujahideen in the 1980s knowing full well that chickens ALWAYS come home to roost. We’re the biggest sponsors of terrorism on the planet. We’re also currently supporting Al Qaeda offshoot Al Nusra in Syria because “Russia bad” 👻. Fascism didn’t lose in WW2, it merely shifted its headquarters of operations from Berlin to DC.
This is very similar to what happened with the infamous tide pod challenge. What began with very few actual challengers & a few ironic jokers exploded after media got ahold of it. Hospitalizations jumped up after the media jumped on this beforehand niche challenge
This sounds like yet another Tide Pod challenge thing; it was relatively small in reality, only when the media blew up over it did it become widespread.
I liked the honesty corner thing. that's fun. Here's hoping that it'll be a reoccurring segment.
I mean, saying your goverment should be held accountable for the crimes they commit on foreign countries does not sound like "radicalized teens" to me. For me this is about trying to bury the truth under the rug and blaming tiktok as a scapegoat
yeah, they're upset that we are learning the truth of America.
Thinking that all people should have some say in the decisions that effect their lives is far left radicalism.
Liars, thieves and murderers running the show is perfectly normal though.
Sympathizing with Osama Bin Laden =/= acknowledging the crimes committed by your own country
@@tieshabunkley6443you can't have a strong nation if your citizens don't support your agenda. Nationalism is a propaganda tool.
THIS!
Going to have to incorporate "Bizzare and extreme cream" into more conversations
Please do it.
The OsamaTok nontroversy reminded me immediately of the South Park episode "Osama Bin Laden Has Farty Pants". Back in 2001, we all had to come to grips with the effects of our overbearing global influence. OsamaTok is just a rehash of that under a less patriotic lens.
Thank you for your Honesty Corner segment, really enjoyed and appreciated it
Please do a year end honesty corner where you call out the negative comments about your stuff.
That’d be non-ironically awesome. 😅
This has been quite a year! Thanks wisecrack🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤
Thank you for all your amazing work this year
TikTok is sketchy but it’s definitely more nuanced and promotes a diversity of opinions more than network news does. At least there’s discourse and clap-backs that aren’t deliberately controlled by the network.
What's really disturbing is that Congress held televised investigations about TikTok that DID NOT prove any of their theories correct, but these Republicans can still say all of these things publicly anyway. I miss reality...
Republicans might be bordering on brain-dead… but they sure as hell understand strategy better than does the Democratic Party. The GOP uses Game Theory more effectively than the Democrats.
You present your opponent with a forced-choice in which neither outcome is desirable. In this case, the GOP either finds dirt that is even slightly adjacent to their lies… or they do not, and can still fall back on their time-honored tradition of accusing the Democrats of being demonic, Satan worshiping communists, who feed on the blood of firstborn children, as Democratic-strategists scramble to fact-check their accusations, because… that’ll convince the Republican base. SMH
The most frustrating about this kind of "news" is that people are so caught up in it, it then becomes that much harder for us who are doing the work in our local spaces to get people to pay attention to the investigative stuff that's happening in their own backyards.
Great video. Ive completely given up on the news. Its exhausting
"To Make the News" gets a whole new meaning that way.
I've honestly been trying to build a healthier relationship with the news by not watching the news all the time and by trying to look at more in depth analysis videos from trustworthy sources here on RUclips. I try to avoid TikTok with a 39 and a half foot (12.04 meter) pole.
Thank you, great video! Also, I appreciate the self reflexion, keep doing the good work!
I see what you did with that Patreon plug, and I was amused.
My favorite video to date. Well done!
Very polarized statement: Merry Christmas, Wisecrack!
Thanks for the honestly corner. I did not know.
"The most bizarre and extreme cream". Thanks for the video 🙏
Thank you for pouring this excellent truth into my brain. Absolutely delectable
Just want to say I really like your colorful wall. And I enjoyed your take on everything you covered. Thank you.
A great deal of this topic is related to our lack of media literacy. We are so bombarded by information that often we are too mentally exhausted to do our due diligence to actually attempt to perceive whether something is actually true, so instead we passively accept the media we surround ourselves in.
Between curated feeds and algorithms set up to farm engagement, we are a part of environments which actively cause us to become fatigued by information which distresses us regardless of relevance in order to facilitate that passivity.
When we're in this state, it's difficult to attempt to pull ourselves away from the biases that we surround ourselves in and inadvertently shield ourselves from any truth beyond our scope of knowledge.
Brilliant take.
Michael got that dawg in him today.
Woof Woof
Diamonds lol. Nothing says "big brain" like paying a fortune for a small, shiny rock
They're not even rare, either
thanks for this video
It’s a modern day example of “Wag the Dog,” a great flick from the 90s, where the media nowadays is portraying a false faraway war not on TV in another country, but in the “space of cyber…”
Media literacy, combined with actual literacy and critical thinking, is crucial.
Something I hate about the internet, RUclips and modern media, is that even though I don’t get ads on RUclips I fully expected this video to have a Ground News sponsor just because so many I watch have reads for them. I can’t get away from the ads. They are in my head
Adblocker and Sponsorblock are your friends.
@@AJX-2 I often “watch” RUclips from my phone, and for various reasons I have an iPhone. It’s not always so easy to do those on here
@@SigridKroon ok
Sending you little Christmas trees for engagement and to make you merry. 🎄🎄🎄 Thanks for your great work!
I’m not going to make a promise but this channel has a spot in my heart that has worth.
This dude really said, "an X thread." That's an instant thumbs down 😂
Calling it X hurts my soul so bad.
Prior to the death of print and rise of audience metrics, it also seems worthy of mentioning that Reagan era policies had already effectively monopolized media while removing safeguards against false advertising or biased opinions in news.
I don't know what I should write but videos need engagement so...
ENGAGEMENT!
I'm here because i heard wisecrack took all their videos down...
There was a great episode of It Could Happen Here that actually analyzed what the reactions really ment.
To find truth, one must have a desire for it. My fear is that the desire for truth is too often intertwined with the desire for comfort. When those two things cannot be separated, objective truth cannot be obtained.
Very few people actually want truth, which is why very few people actually seek it.
Funny thing: I really didn't know about this manifesto, but now, I will definitely look for it. Thaks 😅
Thankfully I’m not on it
I appreciated Honesty Corner.
It's easy to say, "keep an open mind and be skeptical of media." Thing is, that's what the conspiracy theorists say THEY are doing. They say that YOU are being uncritical of media for not being skeptical of climate change, or vaccines, or the idea that America may not be force for good in the world without the need for qualifiers and footnotes.
It is hard to be critical of information that tells you that your fundamental beliefs are correct. That applies to rhe Left and the Right.
100%
First, figure out who your friends and enemies are. Then be open-minded to your friends and skeptical to your enemies.
My strategy is to limit the information I am exposed to and treated it mostly as a show. I try to find what it wants me to believe or do and consider who may benefit from it. Beside that I don’t feel I can do much else. I focus more on books that explain agendas people may have, information is instrumental whether we like it or not. Limiting information has also the benefit of preventing me from feeling too bad about things that I can’t control anyway. I think I have developed a stronger awareness of competing narratives, which are different from the true story. In the end very few know that.
This is also true of quiet quitting and quiet firing. Literally no one was talking about that😂
"Think of me as a cold, soulless algorithm" as I fall to the Left on every hot take I make😊
i was just there, portland is a hell scape. it's the saddest place i've been in a long time. downtown anyway, i guess i don't know about the surrounding error.
Go watch any old footage of American cities from before the 1970s. The decline is palpable.
Truth is a hard concept. Did any others get in trouble as a child for climbing things? No rule against it and I'm good at climbing random things, why am I getting in trouble?, thinks 6yo me. And is borne bourn ? a life of questioning what I'm told.( I hate english and auto correct. No help.)
Lmao that Zoolander reference was top notch haha 😂
Thanks for honesty corner, guys! :) 10:43
That was the least persuasive document I've ever read. I feel like it might have been written to persuade contemporary Afghan dissents. Im not feeling too stressed that a broad section of the public will take it on face.
It would possible to find the truth if people were given sufficient instruction in critical thinking. Given how social media has greatly facilitated polarization and ad revenue incentivized media to cash in on it, I think it's likelier that critical thinking will degrade. Otherwise, the cash cow will go bye-bye.
The lack of critical thinking is very evident when watching MSM.
Yup. Always take the most extreme opinion and fall into your little "tribe," then attack and disagree with other tribes regardless of how well they've researched their topic, because they _must_ be wrong, they're the Other Team, right?
Even if you intellectually know that a claim is false, simply hearing the claim repeated enough times will gradually cause you to become more sympathetic to it over time.
Critical thinking isn't enough. We need critical action.
Looking forward to the next video, titled "You Were Totally Right About Everything At Your Christmas Dinner Argument"
Love the honesty bit, clickbait is tight!
How dare you tell us not to go on your Patreon! Where’s the link, I’ll go on it right now! That’ll teach you! 😡
Lmao! Merry Christmas & Happy Holidays, Wisecrack. Cheers 🥂
The honesty corner reminds me on how algorithms are forcing everyone to behave like algorithms! Is kind of the robot dance!
I'm curious about the opinion of local journalism? For example, local newspapers.
It’s the sense of urgency. That dopamine hit.👆🏻
"People will believe a lie if they hear it enough times"... yep. Be careful though-- if you think you're the exception, you're not. Especially if the lie makes you feel enlightened and morally superior
This feels like Tide pods all over again. Only a few people were doing it and it just went viral.
Video editing at 14:03 to 14:22 to show the escalation was really good
what do the people who are in favor of banning tiktok think about insta reels, yt shorts and even snapchat spotlight. these are just as addictive and spreading misinformation as tiktok
Ya'll are awesome, thanks for both keeping me sane and shoving me into an existential crisis. NFA
I am here to like and comment on these vids that youtube wants to demonetize and suppress. I'm ESPECIALLY here for "honesty corner" 👍
loved honesty corner :)) I kinda judge the channel too when it gets clickbaity, but as long as the content is still good I guess I'll give you guys a pass if it helps bring more viewers... better they get clickbaited here than elsewhere I guess.
It makes me appreciate our system in Germany even more, where every citizen has to pay a mandatory monthly fee ( by law ) for an independent, fully publicly funded broadcasting service. But as citizens are required by law to pay, those broadcasting services are also required by law to follow guidelines, have certain standards, don't have ads, etc. which is controlled by committees.
Those public broadcasting news are a great foundation to rely on. It would literally be a scandal if they state something as fact that isn't, which doesn't mean they don't report on things that aren't 100% clear yet, but then you hear a lot of "allegedly", "suspected", "person x said ..." etc., so not reporting it as fact, or taking a side but informing neutrally on the matter. In fact anything opinionated has a text label on screen reading "opinion piece".
Well Germans were the victima if Hitlers and the Nazis propaganda which lead to WW2 and genocide. You guys experienced 1st hand the consequences of unregulated propaganda. Americans learn about history but as a society we all think "that cant happen here, it cant happen to me" America is going to have a major wake up call in 2024 and beyond.
That's so great
I like the video, the information is interesting i think another important aspect of media polarization is the one that Usa wants to have with china, to be seen as an enemy ,instead of looking for colaboration with that country
Ok, you got me with "Blackboard enthusiast Glenn Beck..." take my like!
Hello. Wondering if you’re considering to do a segment on the psychology of Rick and Morty season finally.
the way i dealt with all of this is to generally curate my social media intake to not include news at all so by the time i knew about any 'fad', it's already a week old and kind of stale. That way, most of the info has already arrived and the fervor has kind of died down
most short forms of content (say 1min or less) is like a dopamine hit... not the best doom scroll. i mostly watch longer form content to give me time to actually process it.
Other people have probably pointed this out but you can read the letter on the US National Archive page.
I fondly remember the Numa Numa music video.
This is the first I'm hearing of any of this stuff, I don't watch 'The News (tm)' Or use social media. I have never been to 'tiktok' and wouldn't even know of it's existence if not for youtubers I watch talking about it.
I honestly I can’t stand the paranoia around TikTok. The claim is that TikTok is spying on people, but TikTok rarely shows me videos based on private conversations that I’ve had. However, it happens on RUclips, Facebook, and Google all the time.
Yeah but only tiktok is Chinese. The red scare never ends...
Their servers are located at Oracle because the three letter agencies kept on complaining about it.
If you look at the CEO's shady history and ties to the three letter agencies, you'll find your answer.
@@MisterCynic18true China is super chill, we shouldn't interfere with them giving our children the social media equivalent of crack
@@MisterCynic18 Being suspicious of Tiktok because of it's Chinese origins is entirely justified.
I find it odd that tiktokers aren't concerned about a Orwellian totalitarian dictatorship potentially spying on them.
@@blackmetaldevil Which country is currently hiding a mass genocide of innocent people?
Thank you for the honesty corner. I love this channel so d*mn much T.T
Yeah, not sure what's what anymore...
You would think with knowing that the media are manipulating us that more people would be cautious, but no some people they just keep eating it up like candy then repeating it back to co-workers and anyone else who doesn't want to listen! 🙄
We probably shouldn't check out that patreon. I'm not even going to think about checking out that link.
Keep the honesty corner
Do love how in a way we are told one side is fine and the other is taboo... like wtf man. We could also bring up the fact that both major usa parties are literally the same and that like of left and right is easy to cross and call yourself
So if I'll write a anti white and anti western christian text, and it'll be censored, will it be heralded as something good by a large number of people?
Anti-white and anti-christian texts don't get censored.
@@AJX-2 if they'll call for the genocide of whites and christians and offend the privileged and those in power...
@@AJX-2 source?
Every time a generation looks at the teens and kids of their generation its always a moral panic. Fucking let kids be weird. We all were too
Boomers did it to millennials now millennials are doing it to gen z. There’s even old writing from people in Ancient Greece lamenting about the state of kids these days.
@@philswift1yea… they hated how the kids were rotting their brains with reading and writing
The funniest part is that their generation is responsible for having raised the generation they’re lamenting about.
Oh, there it is.