How We All Became Big Brother
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Surveillance Culture: Are We The Problem?
Surveillance is everywhere! No longer merely the provence of governments and corporations, the act of watching and being watched is now a community affair. But what is the effect of knowing that any minor freak-out at J.C. Penny might go viral? We’d argue it’s making us all a little bit nuts. We’ll explain in this video The New Surveillance is All of Us.
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The craziest event of lateral surveillance is when the Jan 6th rioters video captured themselves.
My three R's "Reading, 'riting, 'rithmatic"
I don’t believe surveillance really prevents crime. I mean thinking about it if you’re in a state of rage about to do something horrific, do you think you’re considering consequences? Of course not.
The real surveillance state was us and the friends we made along the way.
So, zero
Yay
Yup and posting your life on social and never help when they need
So true!!! I don’t even have to comment!!!
No no, it was inside of us all along
As a person who does not upload anything to social media I usually get jabs about not fitting in and I always answer the same way: "I'm just here for the memes", but it usually pisses people off even more. I've also never use my own pictures for profiles, which in turn got me in trouble at different jobs for quote "not letting people find me in social media" and got instantly branded as shady. The current social contract expects us to share everything willingly, even if it's fake or disingenuous, which is something I've never felt comfortable with.
I've ran into the same issue.
Same here. I've been very particular with the info I share under my username (my channel name) across websites.
it's a narcissist's playground
Same.
Same. And people can't understand why I use a different name for each platform so technology can't follow me and have my phone off especially when I'm out of the house.
As a person who suffers from severe social anxiety, it's weird to have one's fears justified by technology and society.
It's not paranoia when it's the way things work
Hikikomori?
I can’t imagine being a teenager in this day and age, where any mistake could be broadcast to the entire world. And that maintaining one’s digital presence becoming near mandatory, (across multiple, ever changing apps) as if it’s important than real world experiences and interaction.
The iPhone came out the year I graduated high school, social media other than FB didn’t blow up till getting out of college, so I feel like I dodged a bullet.
I feel you man. You almost hope to be wrong about the world being crazy and while you’re in the doctors office getting your meds to “make you more stable” or at the therapist trying to help you “accept things as they are”…They mean well. Take the Meds and go to Therapy obviously BUT, it’s still weird. Good Luck brother.
Same same@@J_McPhearsom
To show how sinister this is getting.... Recently, in the UK, an individual fell into a body of water and was struggling and drowning. With quite a few people passing by - guess what the average passerby did? Reflex action and pulled out their phones to film the distressed individual. This, despite the fact that there was a life ring close by that can be thrown in the water for these emergencies. Police who arrived on the scene and helped were so disgusted, they made a point of publicly chastising the general public on social media.
I mean I get filming a police interaction or something that would put you at risk, but that is ridiculous
Thats horrible. I hope it wont happen again
Source?
@@WillDracoin second this. Source?
This happens in NYC when people fall onto or get pushed onto the subway tracks. A few of those stories ended fatally. People these days are really screwed up.
I remember being freaked out at school back around 2012, having someone film me to mess with me, but at least back then, more people were on my side to make it stop. I can't imagine how frequent a problem it is in modern schools
I can't imagine either. I was in high school in 2012 but phones were banned in schools by Mayor Bloomberg in nyc (de Blasio undid the ban after I'd graduated) and my school had metal detectors so no one had phones and I never had to worry about being recorded.
In my kids highschool someone took photos of people and used that to generate AI nudes. It's going to get absolutely horrible.
It's a childish example, but I really hate phones in parties. Like, there's no privacy to be foolish or get high/drunk
This is what I hate. I barely party but when people pull out their phones, we ALL subconsciously know the footage will be harvested for later, only to be re seem and taken out of context and misconstrued. You are not wrong with being annoyed. We all are.
I also feel like the human trait of voyeurism also has a lot to do with how we ended up in this surveillance state.
I still care about privacy even if I know that it's impossible to have 100% privacy in this era. At least we should try to make it difficult for privacy invaders to violate it.
There wasn't much privacy back in the "good old days" before the Internet. There used to be a thing called "party-line" phone service. Snooping on neighbors' phone calls was definitely a thing that happened. Ask your grandparents.
@@cynthmcgpoetthat's nothing compared to having your "non-consesual sex tape" posted to The Hub for millions of people to see. As our lives become more globalized, and data becomes easier to access you don't just have to worry about your neighbors. In 2012, my sister took a stupid picture and her friend posted it online. No one in our family knew this friend, but within 4 hours my parents (who to this day don't have any social media) had seen the photo.
good luck
@@cynthmcgpoetthat’s crazy!
This is very true. I see people all the time going around and filming the area around them not caring if they are recording people's images without their consent. I'm actually shocked this hasn't resulted in mass numbers of fights given how rude and intrusive it is.
Even in stores, I saw a security guard take out his phone and follow and mother and son around the store recording them without permission. When you enter a store you are giving permission for the security cameras to record you, not someone on their cell phone, the difference does matter.
Last week it snowed and I was on a city buss passing by an elementary school when one of the kids in front of the school threw a snowball at the bus. (caused no damage) and some of the kids on the bus laughed so the driver took out his phone and recorded them. That is a grown adult recording small children on his personal phone.
We need to have laws addressing this. Because privacy is basically dead in this world and that is a huge problem.
Yes, cameras in our phones, cars, door bells (lol) etc....we willingly 'Big Brother-ed' ourselves 🤦
Doesn't help that big tech is buddy buddy with the government instead of being regulated properly
This reminds me of a 2007 novel by Ben Elton called Blind Faith, which was essentially a 21st century retelling of 1984. The major difference was that there was that state didn't need to do surveillance as everyone was already recording and streaming everything on their own. It got flak upon its release for being too similar to 1984, but with only a single year after Facebook became available for public and two from the start of RUclips that core premise was almost prescient.
*The Surveillance State is not when the state and its corporate masters are watching you, it is when we all watch eachother. And worse still, when we do so willingly, eagerly, for free and with no memory of what privacy once was.* And in so doing, we become lonlier, more islated and though we think we know more about about everyone, we come to know vanishingly less and less about ourselves, and how to ever hope to remember.
The world where peoples ability to film in public will not be regulated for our (the civilians) safety. It will be regulated to protect the police and politicians ability to get away with illegal abuses of power.
Makes me wonder- we old people all say how thankful we are that phones didn't exist when we were kids... And the kids growing up today have seen the consequences of having cameras all over them... They act so mature and responsible and just not like a gaggle of 15 years olds used to act. There's probably a long term implication of this type of childhood.
I'm ugly. I hate being filmed. When we record things at work, I turn off my camera. I rarely consent to being photographed and video recorded. This is making me less social and I know I'm not the only one. This is bad for society.
We even teach kids about surveillance early on by telling them that Santa Claus is always watching, and that they'll be in his naughty or nice list. So that's why kids behave, if not no presents.
Many called her sadistic, poisonous, anti-human, and sneaky, but to me she was always just Mom.
Wow, that was exactly what I was going to write.
+1
She'll always be just a bad lay to me
- dad
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I was with a close friends mom the other day at an event. She took video the entire time and I was so uncomfortable.
Felt as if she was missing the point of the event. Felt as if I wanted to get away from her video camera the entire time but I had to be kind and patient even though she never asked if I was okay with the behavior or participating
I was at the bus the other day, minding my own business and scrolling tiktok and this lady was shouting her head off at her kid who had to be about 4. I may have been making a face because I'm a mom and it makes me extremely uncomfortable/angry to see someone being mean to children. Eventually this lady decides I'm filming her and starts shouting at me to delete it. Again. I was just scrolling tik tok! It was the most deranged experience and she only stopped when other people showed up and one person gave her a cigarette. So yeah, not everyone is super chill with being filmed...
Recently I did a "thought experiment" where I imagined everyone in the world could hear my thoughts and knew everything I did. I realized people prolly do a lot of shit they would hate to have others know so the idea of losing control of their image is the real issue rather than the privacy.
100% agree. Also, people seem to think their instrustive thoughts/behaviors are especially bad or unique and they really arent.
@@GMUTaylor6idk man, people's thoughts (my own thoughts) are pretty bad. I'm pretty sure I'd get arrested if people knew what I was thinking half the time. Privacy is needed to afford me some modicum of normalcy and cover as I think my perverted and dastardly thoughts. I mean PEOPLE. As people think their perverted and dastardly thoughts.
After removing myself 100% from social media years ago after basically living online posting everything and anything i felt would reward in likes and comments , i now totally understand why some of the people around me would get upset or annoyed when i was mindlessly and constantly taking pictures and videos to update the internet in real time.
personally now i am so beyond aware of every phone i see in the hands of those i am around when i am just trying to have a simple and real interaction or conversation that it ends up ruining my vibe especially when i find out they are actually recording or posting not just on their phone.
I instantly begin to be "less" in that moment and become too aware of all I say or do going forward and will do my best to remain out of the view of any phones camera.
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Reminds me of Dave Eggers's novel "Circle".
Where "viewers" gladly report your crimes even when there was no crime.
The point of panopticism is only partially to have absolute surveillance, but more importantly to have people act like they are under absolute surveillance, so in a sense people will surveil themselves.
The pro: pigs are getting busted for the things they've always done, but was never proof of.
The con: I can't take a pass in my backyard without 3 of my neighbors knowing about it.
Man... As someone with ASD I really don't care about filming other people or having my picture taken. I wish that people would think about consent for filming. It's unfortunate that people are putting their semi hard surveillance on people
I’ve been randomly filmed before. It was a surreal experience that really affected me. This video rocks.
Nothing like watching a compilation and seeing yourself in it
It happened with me. Some man thought I had "nice legs" so he recorded me going in and leaving a convenience store. Talking to himself the whole time about my legs where I could hear him. Freaky, to say the least. I don't wanna know that you're recording me for your spank bank later.
Privacy is important
Depending on the context it should be considered a misdemeanor.
Some people use their phone cameras to harass others and even to pretend some kind of crime or violation has occurred
It's not ok for someone to put a camera on someone else's face and start telling accusations
Yes. But then at the same time, if you see what you believe to be a crime taking place shouldn't you record it as evidence? Granted you might be mistaken but what if you're not?
@@lordsxman no, you should call the police immediately. If a criminal sees you recording hem they may try to be violent against you
This is why the most terrifying movie of the past few years was - The Circle - because we are already there.
Yeah the concept was legitimately terrifying despite the book and movie being mid
Everyone is my postmodern jailer and everything is an ad now, oh and there’s also like pandemics and wars going on. Guys, seriously, this timeline sucks.
I find it highly ironic that RUclips showed me an ad for Nest home surveillance during this video.
Our parents:gov't gonna wire tap your house
Us: hey, wiretap, do cats eat pancakes?
I get it, phones are wiretaps.
Now imagine being in witness protection these days and how stressful that is, trying to hide your identity from people who want to kill you but having no control over who randomly films you and posts it online
My three R's stand for Rise, Roar, and Revolt!
Surveillance in this country has long since gone WAY too far. There are cameras literally everywhere, not just in every person's hands, but at every intersection, in every single business, and all throughout every neighborhood, one on every corner of every house. We also no longer have a freedom-minded people. People are far too accepting of this surveillance and willfully participate in it. People beg for more surveillance, censorship, and restriction for "security". People are eager to assist law enforcement in any way possible, because the media has trained them to believe they're the coolest heroes. A culture of snitches who love to go "oooh he broke da rules". People here are not like the French who will take to the streets and do whatever is necessary to get their way.
This video made me glad to have returned my phone to being a tool for my use rather than a means of letting my spectators see or know what I'm up to. I keep my social media weekly updated for those few that I care about, but for the most part, I'm always under the radar. It also helps that I moved to New Mexico and there aren't many people here, so there's that too 😎👍
In Saudi Arabia, it’s illegal to film someone in public without their concern. They can sue you and it’s considered a cybercrime.
I guess I'm lucky I don't live in Saudi Arabia then
I value privacy
The three "Rs" in school will always be read, riting, and rithmetic.
3 Rs: Right substance. Right setting. Right people.
… time to party
I literally had this idea when i was delivering packages and peoples houses sounded off their automatic cameras
I think of foucault. Your individuality gets repressed since you feel you cannot be yourself since you need to think about what reprecussions might be. Its dangerous where laws are not just.
It makes you wonder if George Orwell even considered that the cameras that would watch our every move would exist in a disconnected system for total observation. Kind of puts me in mind of the banality of evil.
I've been waiting on this video
I’m not convinced that surveilled people feel safer. Kind of like how, despite popular opinion being the opposite, most people don’t feel safer when there are police around them.
It's taken me a few days to get to this video. I hate the constant casual surveillance of the everyday world. I hate being recorded. I hate that people feel the need to document everything little thing that goes on in their lives. I hate TV shows that glorify people's voyeuristic desires. It all makes me deeply uncomfortable, just as this video is making me now. I really wish it would stop, but as Aesop Rock said, now that is a powerful cat.
Great video, to which I would only add: that today because of tech and social media, we have all the responsibilities of being 'celebrity' but few to none of the perks.
I was hoping that the "White Bear" Black Mirror episode would get a call out in this episode, and I was not disappointed. That episode gives me chills everytime I watch it.
infrared lights just needs to become a new fashion standard. whipping out your camera on public wont be worth it if its all glare.
You said it, " we are Big Brother". Be aware, someone is watching.
What I don’t get is how many people are so willing to post themselves crying or otherwise vulnerable on Tiktok. Why would you want to look weak?
I had to tell a teenager recently that she couldn't record herself on the pool change room.... While I was standing behind her topless!!! She was so surprised when I said she couldn't!
That guy who came up "funopticon" really needs to take some time to read stories and testimonials, and the mission statement from the Trevor Project (and similar groups). Once he's done that he needs to really, genuinely and in good faith, reconsider the notion that punishment is not inherent in this form of surveillance
Philosophize This episodes 186 and 187 discusses this. They’re two of my favorites episodes. Must listens.
A lot to say about this! My local Canadian mall security bans people when they need to take pic of products. And EA isn’t getting canceled for some player who shortened/censored “Stfu” is what that player said
The first surveillance footage showed workers being so happy to run out of work. Me too sisters me too!!
also great job as always
The only positive aspect of this situation for me is thinking that, if I choose not to publish anything about what I do, people won't even believe me. I've been to concerts and on holidays in some places that, just because I didn't post anything about them on social media, my family and friends doubt it's true. It's like a double privacy...
Being originally from the Republic of Ireland and living in the U.K. 21 years, post Covid and post Brexit, where GDPR still appears to apply, public filming by private citizens for private purposes in the U.K. still allowed (for now), with Ireland’s hate speech laws, most big tech companies HQ’d in Ireland, with the UK’s online safety laws in force, it appears that the right to privacy is slowly being eliminated - it could very well be that the use of firewalls, anti virus and VPN’s could become illegal in both Ireland and the U.K., digital ID could be required to access the internet, a police officer could demand the unfettered right to examine any mobile device without a warrant, council tenants in leftist council controlled areas could find themselves as a condition of tenancy (which they have long wanted to implement for decades) to have CCTV cameras and audio recording equipment installed in every room of every council property and to ban council tenants from putting curtains on exterior windows (on the basis that the cameras of the police helicopter have to be able to see inside the council property at all times - which was said to me by a council official when I first moved here 21 years ago) - on balance, this has more to do with our world becoming ever more dystopian because the “powers that be” want to tightly control every aspect of people’s lives at every level, to quash any and all forms of dissent at any level, because they are totally paranoid and they want to enforce a form of communism on the masses far greater than that of Russia, China or North Korea - aside from using anyone else to do this, they are also going to use tech advances to do so, to make any form of privacy a thing of the past and to enforce groupthink
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Living so close to BYU campus, the social panopticon in this area is intense. Multiplied by the fact that it’s shaped into one very specific view of Christianity. So not only will you be put on blast on social media for supposed slights and transgressions, but you’re also going straight to the boiler room of hell!
Had a really weird experience attending a conference on Kierkegaard at BYU years ago.
Buy a dumb phone and swap your sim card into it every now and then. Occasional breaks to get away from these little addiction devices will do a lot more good than you'd first expect.
I was at a jewelry store when a shorter had the manager hide some of us in the back until police got us out safe when we came out . People asking us if we recorded it. I was like know I was trying to live and message loved ones but to think people came to get footage on their own or from the people inside.
As I recall, the regulation of filming by institutions is already a thing. Look into Tuscon Az and their laws on filming police.
As long people are unaware that being observed alters how they think this is not changing. We talk a lot about loving freedom but we are quick to throw away the basic one, the one to think freely only from which deliberate free action can follow. I am ready to bet that someone will post “I can think even if I am observed” unaware of what is going on inside his own mind.
Wish you'd left a link to the other video you suggested. I'm trying to find the mention in the video because I want to watch it, but I waited till the end, watched the whole video, and expected the link would be in the video in the description.
Oh no - that's our bad. Will look into it.
Has anyone else ever wondered what D.A.R.E. did with all the fingerprints kids 'volunteered' during class? I remember filling out an entire sheet with my full name, address, birthdate... and my fifth grade handed fingerprints. How insane.
The weird other side to this strange coin is deplatforming: when we force someone to stop sharing stuff about themselves for free in a sort of banishment from our public sphere. What's weird about deplatforming is that it's kind of effective, and for some of the same reasons that social media is VERY effective at getting us to tell on ourselves.
I’ve been thinking about this topic for a while. It seems to me like this heavy surveillance world we’re in as pros and cons. The cons are obviously related to the lack of privacy. Like nothing is private…period! The pro though is that because everyone has cameras, it’s harder to hide information from people now than ever before. For example, world events are harder to hide which could be good in terms of informing us about things we need to be informed about. I feel like it’s a classic trade off issue. Cameras around us make us way more aware of how we behave, but also destroys most privacy outside of what happens in our home. Of course surveillance has always even around in public, but this is an entire different ballgame with everyone having phones now.
In the game "Deus Ex" there's a public annoucement about possible signs that someone is a terrorist on a public news terminal that concludes with the ominous (and dare I say "prophetic" (the game came out one year BEFORE 9/11)) message : "You and your neighbors will feel safer knowing you're watching over one another's backs."
I have been online since the BBS days of the early nineties and have owned just 3 cellphones since the late nineties, but because I am an adult not one of those cellphones was a smartphone!
NO FACEBOOK * NO SMARTPHONE * NO DRAMA
Great use of White Bear
Radicalized, Resist, Reclaim
Well, its kinda like this.
You're just going about your day, having some coffee at a cafe whilst you make your notes.
Some disgusting, slightly thug-like, stereotypical dirty paparazzi type character starts staring at you in a way that is very pressuring or stress inducing, and then keeps trying to get closer whilst loudly snapping photos of you. Oh, and he - yes he -, smells very unpleasantly.
Youd want your privacy.
BUT!
Later on after its over. The celebrity/non-famous-sucessful-person you idolize the most enters the cafe. You lose your sh*t inside but its okay, because on the outside you look calm. The celebrity sits across from you. Then, notices you, has a non-pressuring curious look about you. You just keep looking at your notes, trusting the celebrity is unaware you cant see them in your peripheral vision. And you get all excited of course. Either because you think they want to fuck you; or because you think they might wish to work wirh you on some future project of theirs, and then will want to fuck you. Then you notice they sneakily lift up their phone, point it at you for a second, then lower it, and try to carry on conversation with whoever they're with like they didnt just take a photo of you.
Now then. In that moment. Would you like more privacy?
As an audiophile, opening this up to watch a seemingly interesting topic only to see the leading ad be RayCon is so wild lol
I sometimes do have a thoughts that maybe for some longer period of time body depersonalisation or how to call it may become something quite common. for now I'd be more into realisation of 'option' with creating quite easily within young people kind of social conscience and then suddenly everything becomes so obvious and this is sure what is right and good. I think it really becomes quite neccessary for people as all people to become somehow more individual and open minded for it doesn't feel like the world exists acceptably fine... don't know, I'd like to expect it to be a bit better place.
They are watching everything that is the down side to everything being online
I have a mild concern for my privacy but ultimately I don't value it too highly
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1. Reject
2. Rephrase
3. Reconsider
I appreciate the thoughtful content.
Privacy is a luxury now. You rarely see rich (the 1%) people being filmed or in pictures. This is not to be confused with people who are celebrities. Some celebrities are rich but they have a social currency too which is a whole other thing. But when it comes to everything about us, data brokers already know every single thing.
Relief, Recovery, and Reform... wait that's FDR's
at a community college i once attended my history professor used to be a psychiatrist. he told the whole class about the developmentally challenged daughter of some famous old-timey actress ( i forget which one) he once treated on a long term inpatient basis. it was definitely a violation of confidentiality. he probably told every class he had. he was pretty cool other than that. had an odd beef against the "greatest" generation (a term i believe was coined by brokaw ,or rather... donaldson, definitely one of those 3 in the 90s) funny everyone else blames so-called boomers, lol
I figure it like this... if I consider my online identity as a reflection of me and stay aware of this... I can use it to my advantage. I have learned so much about myself this way, such as personality. I try to take good care with my identity, both online and offline I suppose, knowing it can show raw truths about much if I am able to use it responsibly. RUclips somehow helped me understand my mental health, my values, and brought perspective to a relationship I was in. Not to mention Google is gonna know me better me sometimes no matter how much I fight it so I am going to use it to my advantage.
I’m not sure about a lot of the details, but I think there are regulations on phone cameras in China. Like I’m pretty sure phones legally have to make a loud noise to indicate a photo was taken
Yall remember that movie in 2017, ‘NERVE’
Its almost comforting… like i feel safe when i have my phone with me. Its attached to me. Its comforting to know at any moment i can capture something or contact someone…
i’m never alone
I live in the woods, social media seems a bit like a survival implement from my perspective. Love the Funopticon!😂
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That does sound like an interesting future video idea.
6:10 that “we in turn” while the representation of “us” turns around hit me so hard
Literally! I was like, “now wait a minute.”😅
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I’m just waiting for the day I don’t have to skip over so many unimpressive plates of food shared in my IG story
Hello! I really enjoy your video, but it would be really cool if you could list in written form the authors and sources you mention in your video. The reason is that I'm not a native-English speaker and sometimes, I'm not sure at all how the names you cite are spelled. It make it difficult to look for their books or articles. Or, do you have such a list on your Patreon sites? Unfortunately, I'm in a really difficult situation in term of finances, so I can't help patreon the video makers whose work I really appreciate, like you.
Honestly we've been needing to do this for a while, we're just slightly understaffed so sometimes struggle to nail the extras and stuff. I think this is something we really want to try to do going into 2024 though, and it's something we should be doing.
@@WisecrackEDU I understand! Please, take it easy then! Most important is that you are alright! We need people like you, so I don't want you to go burned out!
Well, I don't know, I might be able to help. I'm not too bad when it comes to manage bibliographies and lists of books/articles. And I speak several languages (french, english, german). Might be a way for me to contribute, since I don't have money.
as a little brother this upsets me
I was almost sure there was going to be a vpn ad
Sad!
the word "Funopticon" is so perfectly, succinctly bleak.
Yeah like it’s still an opticon even if it’s “fun”
I've been reading a lot about East Germany lately because it was the only parallel that I can think of. I know that was the government and now we do it to ourselves, but I feel like the psychological affects are similar. This video gave me a lot more places to look, thank you.